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Third-Party Accessories Stop Working with Galaxy Note 3 After KitKat Update, Fixable with Root Access (Updated with Comment from Samsung)

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Samsung’s blockbuster sales of Galaxy devices may invite comparisons to Apple, but the similarities between the two companies end there. That is, until the Korean electronics behemoth revised its policy on third-party accessories.

Taking a page from Apple’s playbook, only accessories certified by Samsung – i.e., those made by companies willing to license Samsung’s identification chip – will be compatible with devices going forward, starting with the Galaxy Note 3. Some Note users who updated to Android 4.4 KitKat found that out the hard way when the S-View function their third-party cases stopped working.

There is a way around the restriction, but it requires root access. A few handy developers have come up with a few Xposed Framwork mod tweaks that allow “unofficial” accessories to function as they did before the update. Methods like these always carry a certain amount of risk, though, so should you wish to try it, precede with caution.

While Samsung’s new policy is certain to increase the company’s revenue, I can’t help but feel it will alienate the large contingent of users who’ve invested in unapproved accessories. As the new policy is likely to stay, I can only hope the company does a better job informing customers of such big changes in the future.

Update: To be clear, the Galaxy Note 3 update only affects S-View cases like those sold by Spigen. However, that’s not to say Samsung won’t block more accessories in the future.

Update 2: Both Samsung and accessory maker Spigen have commented on the issue. Attached are their respective responses.

Samsung:

To ensure a pleasant and smooth user experience with Samsung products for our customers, we recommend that only original accessories from Samsung be used. Of course, customers can continue to rely on third-party accessories. The full functionality of our devices and accessories, however, can only be ensured with genuine Samsung components, since only in this way it is ensured that equipment and accessories are perfectly matched. A correlation between the Android version 4.4 and the supposed incompatibility of third-party accessories does not exist.

Spigen:

In regards to Android KitKat, Spigen will continue to support Galaxy devices and their smart functions. We’re currently looking into the issue and will have a more detailed plan of action by next week.

Via: SamMobile
  • neil

    I just purchased a Spigen Slim Armour View, received it 3 days ago and today the View window refuses to work.I had remove the Note3 from its cover, remove the battery & reboot.It worked for a while then started giving problems again. Im very very disappointed!

  • see-tea

    Bad move samsung. And the statement you gave, it’ a ”stick up your ass ” to your loyal consumers.

  • Tk

    Do we have any official solution coming either from Samsung or spigen??

  • Tk

    Mine spigen Armour case stopped working as s view after installing Kitkat in my note 3 today

  • Tran Nguyen

    ‘ Don’t blame . The problem is installed KitKat 4.4. Let’s Spigen fix it. The sky is not falling. Everybody knew that every time your phone update or upgrade some apps got trouble, isn’t they?

    • Adrynalyne

      They are Samsung specific changes.

      Kitkat has nothing to do with it.

  • Rtoodeetwo

    I have a Note 3 and I been wanted to buy the Spigen S-view case but I been waiting to see how good the cases are and if you go to XDA forums and follow the thread about this particular case people were complaining about the S-view Window features not working properly or randomly stop working with the Spigen case even before people were upgrading to kit kat. So I would say put the pitch forks and the torches away until we see who’s in fault here. By the way I’m not a Samsung fan boy, this is my first Samsung smartphone. My last Samsung phone was a the Juke.

  • http://www.toysdiva.com Toys Samurai

    I am giving it another thought over the night. First of all, it’s a very disappointed piece of news. Samsung is charging almost 60 bucks for a case, on top of a very expensive phone. Yes, the quality of the case is great, but it really isn’t $60 of greatness. So, making S-View working only for Samsung’s case is kind of a ripoff. On the other hand, let’s focus the debate on this single change (it’s very likely that Samsung will block even more third party accessories in the future, but for now, let’s just talk about the S-View function.)

    What Samsung is doing is actually a little bit different from what Apple is doing:

    If you don’t license Apple’s connector, sorry, you cannot even legally make a cable that charges the phone, period. But Samsung isn’t stopping third party case maker like Spigen to make a “Smart Case” — Spigen is free to make a case, and develop an app that functions like S-View. At this moment, all Samsung is doing is to block case makers from making their case compatible with S-View (READ: S-View only, not the phone itself.)

    Nevertheless, it’s not a good sign, and if you ask me, I think Samsung will continue to tighten up the accessories market. However, right now, what it does is not as evil as what Apple does.

  • JMonkeYJ

    “A correlation between the Android version 4.4 and the supposed incompatibility of third-party accessories does not exist.”

    Is that just untrue? The article indicates that it was the 4.4 update that caused the issues. Maybe they’re saying there’s nothing inherently wrong with 4.4, just Samsung’s version of it?

  • eilegz

    and im happy to switch to other oem, motorola and lg its doing an amazing job, what samsung doing with knox and now this its just not acceptable.

  • Shawn John

    Great work samsung, now you can viewed in the same digusting,greedy, closed eco system as Apple now. Glad I didn’t buy a Note 3. All these closed eco system does not help the tech evolve.

  • kyle

    wow samsung.. i was half considering the S5.. i’ve never owned one of your products but have always been curious.. you’ve just insured that I will NEVER buy anything samsung mobile. You better watch it.. keep this up and i’ll never buy one of your dishwashers either.

    • Daistaar

      You don’t know what you’re missing! A Samsung dishwasher with CM, deodexed and debloated of Tide and Downy apps is truly a thing of beauty! Has to be CM though as you don’t want TouchWiz on your whites. Trust me!

      • Reginald Jefferson

        So they include Tide and Downy apps but not Arm & Hammer? Pfffft, that’s why I’m rolling with LG for my future smart appliance needs! /snort

        • Daistaar

          LOL!!! I’d rather wave my hands or lock on with my eyes over my washer settings than knock, Reggie! LOL hahaha

  • jim

    Kind of a non issue really, doubt they will sell very many of those cases anyway, makes the phone to bulky and cost to much

    • Adrynalyne

      Whats to stop them with just cases though? I agree that its mostly a non-issue but it really is a shady practice.

  • htowngtr

    All the more reason to stay away from them as they have become the Apple of Android. No thanks.

  • http://twitter.com/jdrch jdrch

    Are 3rd party chargers allowed, or not? If they aren’t, I won’t be buying a Samsung phone, ever.

    • Adrynalyne

      For now. That could change, but as of right now it looks like s-view cases are the only issue.

      • http://twitter.com/jdrch jdrch

        @adrynalyne:disqus Phew. Thanks for the info.

      • Robert Macri

        I know when my wife tries to use her s4 with my moto x charger she gets a message stating that it will charge slower then normal and to speed the charge use an original samsung charger. With that said, the phone is capable of blocking other chargers – and they already reduce the speed of 3rd party chargers at least on the Verizon S4.

        • Adrynalyne

          Are you sure they are reducing it or just flashing the toast to try and get you to buy theirs?

          I’ve seen the same message, but they were usb 2 chargers/

          • Robert Macri

            honestly, not sure. Never really paid attention.

          • De Nguyen

            The S4 is usb 2.0

          • Adrynalyne

            Sorry, I have Note 3 on the brain. I get this message from lower amp chargers on my Note 3, which happen to be usb 2.

        • De Nguyen

          I use the HTC charger for my note 3 (verizon) for some time, but then all the sudden this message shows up. I’m guessing from the last update. Mine not only shows the message, but it will not charge at all.
          I know they’re blocking it because of the sequence of event.
          1. Plug in charger
          2. Charging icon shows up and charges fine.
          3. 5 seconds in, the warning shows up.
          4. 2 seconds later, charging stop and the charging icon disappeared.

          I beg to differ from those who think that the device needs usb 3 power. I plug it (using the included usb3 cable) into the usb 2 slot on my thinkpad and it charges fine, no warning what so ever.

          *the HTC charger is a fast charge high power device.

  • yankeesusa

    Another reason why I haven’t purchased the Note 3 yet. I really love my Note 2 but with more and more restrictions that samsung is putting on their devices and being more like apple, LG and Sony are starting to look better and better.

  • jimbob

    Please Moto, release a Moto X successor with specs similar to the Galaxy S5 but software and build like the Moto X. This is your chance to make the perfect phone and cut into Sammy’s market share lead.

    • Robert Macri

      If you ever used the Moto X you would know that specs don’t matter. My Moto X is so much smoother and faster then the wife’s S4.

      • jimbob

        Ok well I mean display size and resolution, camera, etc., not processor clock speed and such.

      • AC

        sure would be an easier sell to the masses though.

        scenario 1 –
        consumer: does this phone have the latest hardware?
        salesman: no not exactly but motorola is using older hardware and combining it with a fancy x8 computing system(over consumers head), plus this phone is running a mostly stock android experience from Google so it performs just as good as the new hardware today!

        scenario 2 -
        consumer: does this phone have the latest hardware?
        salesman: yes.

  • https://www.facebook.com/findjaysee Joshua

    [The new] Motorola is way more upfront with changes and not only apologetic when they drop the ball, BUT they make up for their mistakes too in ways customers like.

  • Adrynalyne

    To those who are claiming this is a false story (since Samsung said so), please think about this for a minute.

    First, look at the source code for the mod.

    https://github.com/MohammadAG/Xposed-SViewALLTheCovers/blob/master/src/com/mohammadag/sviewverificationbypasser/XposedMod.java

    As you can see, it is bypassing checks for the CoverManagerService by setting the results to true.

    Samsung knows full well that when they make changes to how a cover is being checked, that if they change that, they break things for everyone else except themselves. Sure they can use the guise that they were improving it, but they could have also changed it so the old method works for third party too. That way, their own accessories get the benefits of the changes, and the third party still works, but maybe not as well.

    They didn’t do that though.

    Going off what the readme says (I can’t be bothered to look at the kernel source myself):

    /sys/devices/w1_bus_master1/w1_master_check_id now is used for it.

    Why do you need to check the ID unless you are trying to bar third party s-view cases?

  • Steve B

    This is such a shady fu(king move by Samsung. Not that I was planning to, but I’ll never buy a Sammy device as long as this is true.

  • coh303

    I’ve always been on the fringe with the thought of buying a Samsung device, but a move like this assures that it will never happen now.

  • bionicwaffle

    Wow, forget Samsung! They should no longer be considered an Android OEM. This should help HTC, LG, and Moto quite a bit. Especially since they all have some really great devices that are getting overlooked.

  • Jarred Sutherland

    “Samsung, we’re trying hard to beat Apple at being .. Apple”

  • http://www.MyTabletLife.com Chris Garcia

    Samsung has stated this is not true and has not changed any policy for 3rd party accessories.

    • panicswhenubered

      I totally believe them.

    • Jarred Sutherland

      Yet the reality is the opposite of what they state. I trust reality in this instance.

    • Adrynalyne

      They just conveniently introduced a bug that broke third party accessories only?

    • Ian

      Sure, they didn’t change their policy…. but they did change their code (to cock block 3rd parties). You can still use your 3rd party accessories. However, they do not guarantee the experience when using those accessories.

      For those that might argue that Sammy had the right, you may have ground to stand on, but its the competition brought about by the 3rd parties that keeps innovation flowing and brings us better products. Now with Samsung saying you can only use our crap, that’s just what you’ll get…crap!

  • cgalyon

    “The more you tighten your grip…”

    Somehow, I just don’t see this ultimately panning out the way Samsung hopes (or maybe I just hope it won’t). I don’t think Samsung is exactly embodying the “spirit” of Android (open hardware, options, etc.).

  • Bernard Borg

    Bollocks samsung says in statement:Statement on the use of third-party accessories
    To ensure a pleasant and smooth user experience with Samsung products for our customers, we recommend that only original accessories from Samsung be used. Of course, customers can continue to rely on third-party accessories. The full functionality of our devices and accessories, however, can only be ensured with genuine Samsung components, since only in this way it is ensured that equipment and accessories are perfectly matched. A correlation between the Android version 4.4 and the supposed incompatibility of third-party accessories does not exist.

  • Droid 1967

    is there a way to ignore or silence a user on this site? Thanks.

    • john

      That would be nice. Too many babies that only know how to complain about every single thing. Worse than a woman

  • needa

    wasnt the gs4 just updated to wotk with non samsung chargers? seems like a trend to me.

    • Droid 1967

      was it updated to work? if so than maybe there is old code in their update they forgot to remove and they will patch it to unbreak this?

      • needa

        i dont remember what site i was on. but a couple of weeks ago an update rolled out to the gs4 and it ‘unlocked’ the non samsun chargers. i think it was verizon. i honestly dont know much more than that as i dont own the phone and just skimmed it.

  • Turb0wned

    More reasons to not support or buy Apple I mean Samsung phones anymore.

  • http://404err0r.com/ Henry Park

    I was really looking forward to me new N9005 and Spigen case that I was going to buy…..
    Well… I guess I will something else

  • Brady KEITH

    moar rahn! too quiet in this episode.

    • Brady KEITH

      2 downvotes inside of 30 secs…awesome!

      • Brady KEITH

        aw crap…wrong article.

  • dcdttu

    Like Apple and Sony before them.

  • ki11ak3nn

    Samsung is so crazy. But no one can stop them. Maybe Google. But even that’s stretching it.

  • Djdmac24

    Wow, am I sure glad I went with the LG G2, in more ways than one. I will never go back to Samsung now, just like I never have, and never will, get an iPhone or ipad .

    • Tim242

      Trolling hard are you? I hope you wash your hands after each time you touch that G2 cable. LG poisons you with lead in their cords

      • Droid 1967

        get off it already been 6 months of that crap. getting tiring already!

        • Tim242

          You do realize lead can easily cause lead poisoning, right? Then there’s the fact that it is considered a major carcinogen. Crap? There should not be lead in something that people handle every day.

          • needa

            please by all means post a link. i just searched for it. cant find anything.

          • Tim242

            The link is in your booklet that came with your phone. It’s in the safety section. That warning is on every LG product sold in the US. Thankfully, California requires the warning. It reads something like this, “This product contains a chemical known to the state of California to cause birth defects and cancer.””Wash hands thoroughly after each use.”

          • Droid 1967

            yeah and saccharin had the same warning for years bankrupted many and guess what no cancer because it never could or did cause cancer in a humna only in rats due to an enzyme humans didnt even have. California give me a break , they would put up billboards saying air may cause cancer dont breath but they need the tax dollars.

          • Tim242

            Live your reckless life. People that don’t read their booklets appreciate the info. It’s better to know that there is poison in your phone cord. It’s better to be safe, than sorry. It’s easy to avoid saccharin and cheap OEM cables.

          • Droid 1967

            i just licked my lg cable!!!!!!!!!!! tasted great!

          • Tim242

            Good. Be sure to eat lots of meat. We know that meat causes strokes, high blood pressure, and heart attacks…yet people continue to eat it. #Vegan

          • Droid 1967

            orgasms can cause high blood pressure and strokes so do not ever have one again. also no pushing to go number 2. you do realize that is what killed elvis so never have a bm again. number 1 cause of death to otherwise healthy people is car accidents so dont ever drive again or ride in any vehicle. on the othe hand flying is actually the safest form of travel with the leat amount of deaths per traveler so feel free to fly. But understand that 1 flight will cause co2 of a person driving a car for 1 year so may want to knock that out too. Id keep going but i only want to have you look halfway stupid!

          • Tim242

            Drug overdose killed Elvis. Again, avoid what you can. Live life safer, not sorry.

          • Droid 1967

            no it didnt , it was caused by a vagal nerve response while trying to go to the bathroom with constipation caused by the narcotic pain use. But the cause of death was not a drug overdose. Ok so i see you dont know fact you jsut guess. here so is some info for you so you can actually know what your talking about in the future. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasovagal_response and than you can do a search for caue of elvis death to see how stupid you now look!

          • Tim242

            You posted wikipedia as a source hahahaha

          • Droid 1967

            I looked at it its accurate. Im a nurse i know what it is and that explains it perfectly.

            i was gonna post individual links but there just are too many. But since you say you couldn’t find any i now see you aren’t even smart enough to do a google search so im done with you i can only waste so much time on someone with no abilities. have a nice life. and don’t forget the above precautions.

            https://www.google.com/search?q=elvis+presley+cause+of+death&oq=elvis+presley+cause+of+death&aqs=chrome..69i57j5j0l2.4838j0j1&client=ubuntu-browser&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

          • Tim242

            When Elvis died, he was obese and abusing drugs. If you are a nurse, you know it wasn’t a simple toilet trip that caused his death.

          • Tim242

            And nothing about Elvis…

          • Droid 1967

            i grew up in houses with lead paint probably ate some paint chips when i was a kid. i know my brother did guess what were both still alive. Announcing it once so people are aware is one thing. every time a LG product is spoken about you come up with this crap. guess what id rather have some low amount of lead that i will bet my life never makes i person sick than have to buy high cost accessories due to crap like this. I understand batteries but not cases this is just more greed they are the biggest and think they can do it verizon has gotten away with apple has gotten away with it and im sure Samsung will get away with it , but not from my pocket book on that. And if verizon ever attempted to drop my unlimited data they would be gone also. Defending samsung because you think this is cool is one thing but everytime someone mentions LG you bring up this same thing, im much more worried about LG’s poor upgrading timetable(if at all) than i am about some low lead content of some damn cable. oh by the way im using a wireless charger so i guess im safe.

          • Tim242

            You are tired of me mentioning it. But because you are a Samsung hater, you are OK with people trolling a Samsung thread.

          • Droid 1967

            People are not trolling BUT YOU! this is a thread regarding a samsung update that broke accessories people already bought and will limit the accessories they will buy in the future which brings higher prices. So people are speaking about their unhappiness about this article. that is what the article is about. THE ONLY TROLL HERE IS YOU!

          • Tim242

            The people that own Samsung phones have legit reasons to comment. Some LG fanboy jerk bragging about his G2 is a troll.

          • Philip J. Fry

            Seems like a good place to leave this.
            http://media3.giphy.com/media/8oh42nM14t50Q/giphy.gif

          • Tim242

            You never have anything to say. You just troll. I don’t click links from trolls.

          • Philip J. Fry

            Iv’e got plenty of serious things to say when need be. But I’m in here now for the lolz

          • Tim242

            The only thing to lol about is the sales of the MX and G2. They can’t even give them away.

          • Droid 1967

            and there you are again nothing to do with the article or the post above yours only more negative against samsung competitors your a pathetic little troll. ill pay attention to you when you have a few more brain cells but im not holding my breath!

          • Tim242

            PhillipJFry is a known Samsung hater and trolls every chance he gets. If it weren’t for the G2 comments that don’t belong here, I wouldn’t have even commented.

          • Philip J. Fry

            Wrong. Don’t hate samsung, just wish they would change how they operate. So, try again.

          • Adrynalyne

            Tim242 is known as the hater of everything but Samsung.

            Pot.Kettle.Black.

            You never miss a beat on bashing anything but Samsung.

          • Tim242

            You are so predictable. You stop responding when I make a fool out of you. What happened to you last night? I shamed you.

          • Adrynalyne

            I went to bed. Weird, huh?

          • Tim242

            No you didn’t. I saw you commenting elsewhere. Nice lie though. Just try to do better following the flow of a conversation, if you intend on joining it, k? Then I won’t have to school you

          • Adrynalyne

            LOL, OK bro. Look at my reply again. Posted and yes a quick addition before you even replied.

            Schooled me, LOL. Typical
            Gah wrong meme.

          • Tim242

            Stupid conversation going nowhere? It’s going everywhere until you are made to look stupid. You try to call somebody out and get shamed in the process. You only stop responding when that happens. Every conversation you have on this site goes nowhere, because you just like to argue with everybody. You jump in other people’s conversations.

          • Adrynalyne

            http://badassmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/won-the-argument.jpg

            There is a point where arguing with you is just stupid, so I walked away from it.

          • Tim242

            That point only comes when you realize you have made yourself look stupid.

          • Adrynalyne

            Right. Tell you what, if it somehow makes you feel more manly that you have somehow won an argument on the Internet, I won’t take that away from you. We all know your true colors though.

            https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SboZhorwVTY/Us7nBYkxGOI/AAAAAAAABus/kXqUM2MDfus/w804-h96-no/Capture.PNG

          • Tim242

            We all know yours as well. You are a jobless troll. You attacked what I do, then accusef me of attacking you when I responded. I called you out, as did others. This was the middle of the day. Did you take a nap, or did it just get too stupid for you at that point? You also like to copy/paste people’s comments trying to use them out of the context and flow of a conversation. Then you stop responding when you are shamed. If you were worried about getting in the middle of a stupid argument, you wouldn’t start so many. Once you are defeated, you retreat for the evening. Then you do it all over again the next day. Seriously dude, get a job, and get a life

          • Adrynalyne

            Just setting the context for who you really are. Someone who personally insults others, ridicules others for differing opinions (because you think yours is fact), and likes posts of children hoping that they kill themselves.

            You are just as disgusting as Chris.

          • Tim242

            Most of what you think is based on not being able to comprehend the flow of a conversation. You jump into someone else’s debates. Chris nor I wish anyone to commit suicide. That’s yet something else you took out of context and ran with. He was just giving you a dose of your own medicine.

          • Adrynalyne

            Dude, the only reason I harp on you is because you disgust me by liking garbage such as this:

            https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SboZhorwVTY/Us7nBYkxGOI/AAAAAAAABus/kXqUM2MDfus/w804-h96-no/Capture.PNG

            THERE IS NO WAY TO TAKE THAT OUT OF CONTEXT.

          • Tim242

            That’s another lie. You have been an ass to me and everybody else on this site since before that. I thought his comment was funny. You piss people off, they’re going to push your buttons. If you can’t take the heat, stay your sorry ass out of the kitchen. Your time online would be better spent filling out applications…the ones that can land you a job. You have too much time on your hands.

          • Adrynalyne

            There you go again with personal insults. You just cannot resist. Just like you said you would never reply to me again. You are the one lying.

            But how can you respect someone who likes children committing suicide? Taken out of context, right. There is no context where that is acceptable.

            https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SboZhorwVTY/Us7nBYkxGOI/AAAAAAAABus/kXqUM2MDfus/w804-h96-no/Capture.PNG

          • Tim242

            Yes, I think it’s hilarious that he pushed your buttons. You are an a$$hole. Has your child ever said that she hates you? Of course she has. All kids do at some point. I guess you took that literally too. If you don’t want me replying to you, stop replying yo me. It’s that simple. I’m not going to hold back on you. Now, go get a job.

          • Adrynalyne

            No, I am a good father nor has my daughter has ever said that.

            The funny thing is, you keep hinging on this job thing. I am employed, but for some reason you think I am not.

            Sorry, but no, this is not the same as a child having a temper tantrum. This is your true colors showing and you trying to justify it.

            https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SboZhorwVTY/Us7nBYkxGOI/AAAAAAAABus/kXqUM2MDfus/w804-h96-no/Capture.PNG

          • Tim242

            I don’t have to justify why I click like on a comment. I can do what I please. You are not employed. Why you all of a sudden want to claim otherwise, is beyond me. That’s why you got so offended the first time. You had the audacity to accuse me of attacking you, when you were the one attacking my job. I wonder why it is that all you have to harp on is my comment like? You run with that as if it justifies your behavior and lies. When in fact, it was your behavior that brought that out. I got a lot of pleasure seeing your buttons get pushed. I’m curious…why are you still replying? Surely you find this argument stupid by now…right? If it makes you feel better, I hope you get your unemployment back. I wouldn’t want your family to suffer because of your internet addiction.

          • Adrynalyne

            Expected comments from someone who thinks its cool for children to off themselves.

            https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SboZhorwVTY/Us7nBYkxGOI/AAAAAAAABus/kXqUM2MDfus/w804-h96-no/Capture.PNG

          • Tim242

            Expected comment from a jobless mooch with no rebuttal.

          • Adrynalyne

            I don’t need a rebuttal, because you have no clue what you are talking about.

            I am employed, and why you think you know otherwise is beyond me.

          • Tim242

            It doesn’t take a genius to know that you are unemployed. I have really good comprehension skills, unlike you.

          • Adrynalyne

            Says the guy who thinks child suicide is something to like.

          • Tim242

            Says the guy that has nothing else better to do or say.

          • Adrynalyne

            I don’t need to say anything else for people to see how sick you really are.

          • Tim242

            And I don’t need to say anything else for people to see that you are a jobless loser that can’t get out of internet blog comments long enough to find a job. Then you have the audacity to talk trash about my job. Ha!

          • Adrynalyne

            Oh look, personal insults. That really proves your point!

          • Tim242

            Just like when you talked trash about my job, then accused me of attacking you. Do you forget what you type?

          • Adrynalyne

            Trash talking a job isn’t calling someone a loser.

            Nor is it liking a comment about a child committing suicide.

          • Tim242

            An insult is an insult. You shouldn’t be insulting someone else’s job, when you don’t even have one. The worst part is that your victim complex made you accuse me of attacking you. I didn’t make the comment, but I liked it. I liked it after seeing how it pushed your buttons. He shouldn’t have said it, but you shouldn’t be so offended either. It was in the middle of an argument, which you find yourself in far too often on here. You think you can say whatever, but everybody else has to walk on eggshells. Get over yourself and find a job.

          • Adrynalyne

            LOL@ not having a job. This is rich.

            Keep thinking that, it apparently makes you feel better.

          • Tim242

            I know for a fact that you don’t have a job. But humor me for a minute. Just what is your job, and what shift do you work? What is your salary? Hahaha never mind. Forget it. I don’t want you to have to lie anymore than you already have. Keep lying though, if it makes you feel better.

          • Adrynalyne

            I am a contractor. I work on contracts. My salary is none of your business.

            You don’t know anything for a fact. You think you do and I am sure I know why, but humor me on your facts.

          • Tim242

            Copout! Yeah, how vague. At least that response kept your lies to a minimum.

          • Adrynalyne

            LOL ok bro.

            Quite a few developers work on contracts.

            You claim facts and provide none.

          • Tim242

            You don’t have time to work on anything. You are too busy having useless arguments. You’ve been arguing with me for 2 hours. C’mon bro. Use your time more wisely. Find yourself a job. It will make you feel better about yourself.

          • Adrynalyne

            Riight.

            That is funny coming from you. Should I think you are jobless now? LOL.

          • Tim242

            My active times on here are on and off based on my shifts and activities. I also comment from time to time at work when not busy. You are here from the time you wake up until the time you go to bed, 7 days a week., with no breaks. You really like trying to deflect, don’t you? Find a job dude. I know that there are a lot of people unable to find work. But you spend all day wasting time in the comments section. Is that what you want to be remembered for?

          • Adrynalyne

            Is this what you want to be remembered for? Liking death of children?

            https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SboZhorwVTY/Us7nBYkxGOI/AAAAAAAABus/kXqUM2MDfus/w804-h96-no/Capture.PNG

            Feel free to think I am jobless. I am not giving you any details about myself or family, especially when I know you are into child suicide.

          • Tim242

            With you out of work and unemployment not yet extended, does she get enough food to stay alive? You must spend what little you have on internet. Wait, I bet she lives with her mother.

          • Adrynalyne

            I like how this devolves into insulting my family.

            https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SboZhorwVTY/Us7nBYkxGOI/AAAAAAAABus/kXqUM2MDfus/w804-h96-no/Capture.PNG

            I’m done with you, everyone sees you for what you are.

          • Tim242

            Everyone sees you for who you are. You argue with everybody. I wonder why your user activity is private on disqus? I stand behind my comments. You are ashamed of yours.

          • Adrynalyne

            Look at you, needing the last word.

          • Tim242

            Really? You said you were done with me, then replied again. Looks like you have a victim and last word complex. Get a job dude.

          • Ian

            Don’t you work in retail?

          • Tim242

            At a corporate cell phone store making 60-65k.

          • Ian

            I didn’t ask how much you make, but thanks, that information is very telling.

          • Ian

            I never asked how much you made, although your response is quite telling.

          • Adrynalyne
          • Droid 1967

            no its not– its due to your love for samsung causing you to have a unhealthy thought. I am also glad i purchased the g2 rather than the note 3 this is just another reason, But no surprise to me as per what they have been doing and why i decided against samsung. there were other reasons before this i didnt buy the samsung product so i didnt see a need to post at all. But your post caused me too as well as your replies. I know you think your a big dog cause you post in every article here but i know alot of people and let me enlighten you , many are sick of you as you share nothing positive you only cause controversy for no real reason other than your thrills.

          • Tim242

            Trolls bring out negativity. You jerks jump at anything remotely negative about anything thstvis not your device of choice.

          • Droid 1967

            again the only troll i see here is you. our argument is we don’t like that they try to limit accessories to what they make money off. yours is a bogus comment about some lead that wouldn’t harm an ant.
            if moto did it or lg did i would same same thing. I dont fall in lust with any hardware maker i get what works for me at the time. I would buy a samsung product if they got rid of knox and this new thing and they had the rest of things i wanted. i dont like samsungs current products or direction they are heading at this point that doesnt mean they wont change. I hated lg after the disgrace of the G2X i wasted money on. but they won back my business samsung could do the same.

          • Tim242

            If I’m the only troll you see here, you are blind. If I were to post negative comments about LG in a negative article about LG, I’d be called a troll. But, LG fanboy jerks that do it in Samsung articles get a pass from the other trolls, such as yourself.

          • Droid 1967

            bite me idiot!

          • Droid 1967

            but beware i have been declared by the state of California to cause cancer!

          • Tim242

            That shows your juvenile way of thinking.

          • Djdmac24

            Wow, are you really that ignorant? Think about your comment. According to your comment, trolls bring out negativity. What was your first comment regarding my comment? A NEGATIVE comment about how I can get lead.. Blah, blah. Walks like a troll, talks like a troll… Must be a troll. Also, I am not an LG fanboy. If anything I am, or was, a Samsung fanboy until I tried out the G2 and the G Pad 8.3. I previously had the Galaxy Nexus and Galaxy S3 and loved them both, except for the battery life, and really wanted to get the Note 3 but heard so many good things about the G2 that I decided to try it out and I loved it in so many ways, that I decided to keep it instead of getting the Note 3 just because it has a bigger screen and I could write/draw on it with the S pen. I’m a fan of what has the best/most features and specs for my liking and the G2 just happens to fit the bill right now. Your “troll” comment about me is invalid. Go sit on a pole or something!

          • Adrynalyne

            Save your breath, he doesn’t understand that he does the very things he accuses others of doing.

          • Tim242

            You are trying to wiggle your way out of admitting you trolled a Samsung article.

  • dizel123

    I think this is a brilliant move by Samsung because…well…because I want Samsung to die a hot burning death and for Moto and HTC to take their market share.

    • Tim242

      Keep trolling that will never happen. Delusional troll

      • dizel123

        I know you are but what am I?

        • Tim242

          Someone that needs to take his meds. It will make the delusions go away

          • dizel123

            Chaos;head

    • http://www.MyTabletLife.com Chris Garcia

      Well your hopes are dashed. Samsung has responded saying they made no such change in policy relating to third party accessories.

      • Gunther

        Man, Samsung must really be paying you a lot. You are responding to every single comment to defend them. Didn’t they get in trouble for having paid commenters on forums recently?

        PS: e-mail me at gunther@hotmail.com, I need a job shilling for Samsung too.

        Sample below:

        Come on people, you are making a big deal over nothing. Our kind overlords have decided to restrict the functions of advanced features on non-Samsung products…They invented it, they have the right, because, capitalism, that’s why!

        • http://www.MyTabletLife.com Chris Garcia

          Last week I was a Microsoft shill.. I stick up for facts and/or accurate reporting….. .. The reason I commented on.. 3 different comments.. is because of how Disqus works.. the person doesn’t see a new comment.. they only see a reply to their comments. so I picked a few of the comments that had a few replies. so people saw.. what was being reported elsewhere (and finally updated here)..

          • Gunther

            Wow, making money from Samsung and Microsoft…dude, you must be loaded. Accurate my butt! Sammy stated that the Kitkat update didn’t cause this, which is technically true, as there is no reason for Google to care if 3rd party accessories work. It was rather, an update to Touchwiz that came with it that broke it. I think Android Police actually had the code that broke it, and it came from Samsung, yet you are here repeating Samsung’s propaganda, which tells me you are delusional in believing them, or are getting paid generously by them to respond to any criticism against Samsung.

  • user311

    I think this is lame and all, but this cover’s their butts in regards to the false fire claims that were spread through the major news outlets last year only later to be found out the causes were cheap third party replacement batteries/chargers.

    • Tim242

      Exactly.

    • C-Law

      No bc the article just said this only affects third party sview cases. It never said this would affect chargers. It should be backwards. This should affect the third party chargers, not cases

  • Nicholas Ruiz

    Hopefully they don’t do this to the third party wireless charging receiver I have for my Note 3. I’m wondering how they could, though

    • Adrynalyne

      Most likely connection to the device sends off an identification ID for it.

      All they have to do is disable charging if anything but their own ID shows up. I would like to think they aren’t stupid enough to do that, but they may prove me wrong.

      • Nicholas Ruiz

        If they do that I’m done with them. Forever.

  • Jeffrey Laird

    No worries with Verizon note3 because it will be summer before iy gets the update to kit kat

    • John Legere

      Summer of 2016.

      • superg05

        that’s a more likely date but works for me since flexible tablet phones may make an appearance

    • Greg Abbate

      I will own a Note 4 before Note 3 gets kit kat.

  • jeradc

    so help me out here. what does it mean when a case stops working?

    • Kevin

      It doesn’t protect the phone from damages anymore.

    • superg05

      s-veiw will stop working flip cases that turned on the screen when you opened it will stop functioning but case will continue to protect your phone

    • dizel123

      Basically, you put the case on a phone, but then as soon as you look away the case comes off and ends up on the floor. The only way to make sure the case stays on the phone is to stare at it at all times. And you don’t wanna know what happens to it when you fall asleep.

  • https://twitter.com/#!/MMcCraryNJ Michael McCrary

    This really only applies to third party S-View cases. Every third party accessory ever made for the Note 3 is not going to magically stop working with the update. Let’s be honest here.

    • Matthew Rebmann

      If this wasn’t the direction that they’re heading in, why even bother making that requirement for one accessory?

  • Chris

    I don’t see the problem here. only those accessories that are certified. Meaning you wont get a crappy 3rd party accessory. Doesn’t mean you have to use only samsung accessories.

    • gcforreal

      Except that it wasn’t like this in the beginning so people who shelled out money for premium third party cases (see spigen slim armor view) are now left with half functional equipment that used to work before the update. The galaxy line of devices especially notes have been my favorite since the s3 but I think this will be my last Samsung device.. This type of business just plain bad for the consumer

    • bkosh84

      The problem is Samsung is going to charge these accessory makers a premium to make sure their accessory works which in turn that cost will trickle down to the accessory price. Why do you think “Official” Apple cases cost so much?

  • Defenestratus

    Well this note 3 that I’m writing on now will be the last Samsung device I buy then. See how that work Samsung?

    • Kevin
      • superg05

        this means they’ll wipe away there tears with money and get over it(Defenestratus)

        • Kevin

          Yea I got that. Thanks. Lol

          • superg05

            it was to Defenestratus

    • http://www.MyTabletLife.com Chris Garcia

      Except the report isn’t true. Samsung has stated they made no such changes to policy.

      • Claudius

        Dude, really, how much is Samsung paying you? I’d like a job with them too. I can sound like an automaton and ignore all evidence with the best of them.

        P.S. Droid-Life and others have provided links to various statements by Sammy and Spigen, where is your proof that Sammy hasn’t decided to screw its customers?

        F* Samsung…Glad I left them after the GSII…LG, Moto or HTC for me.

        • DJyoSNOW

          Lolz I left them after the omnia & charge….WTF…(!!HTC!!)

  • Adrynalyne

    Pathetic.

    • Rick Grimes

      Don’t trust anyone.

      • John Legere

        I like how it goes from Jason, to Rick Grimes, and then greyed out. That’s what is rather pathetic. Cough Chris.

        • Chris

          Says the guy who thinks its funny to pretend to be T-mobile’s CEO

          • John Legere

            Who said i was pretending to be him? Still not as bad as somebody who creates fake accounts, and wishes harm to another persons child.

          • KingofPing

            Girls! Girls!

            You’re both pretty.

            Can you three stop measuring each other’s E-Peens for a few articles?

            Please??

          • Helen J. Johnson

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      • Guest

        wrong

      • a) youth.in.asia

        CAARRRLLLLL!!

      • Adrynalyne

        I’ve had all sorts of little piddly reasons to dislike Samsung, but this takes the cake.

    • http://www.MyTabletLife.com Chris Garcia

      Even more so since this story is false.

      • Adrynalyne

        False in what way?

        That Samsung conveniently broke third party accessories but not on purpose?

        Seems unlikely. Sounds like media PR trying to save face.

      • Gunther

        So Samsung and Spigen both admit there is a problem, people all over the place report that it is a problem and you come to the conclusion that it must be false? How much is Samsung paying you to shill for them?

        • Adrynalyne

          What I find amazing is that someone would automatically believe Samsung just because they made a statement.

          Companies never lie if they are popular, right?

    • http://twitter.com/geoff5093 Geoff Johnson
      • Matthew Merrick

        They stated Kitkat was not to blame. Which is technically true – the latest version of the touchwiz framework is. It’s some BS deception, but not technically the blatant lie it sounds like.

    • EC8CH

      LAME.

      • Adrynalyne

        Pathetic and LAME.

  • John Legere

    Gotta use the power of the S

  • Maxim∑

    Buy a Nexus 5, you wont have these problems

    • Chris

      Weren’t you going on and on about Motorola?

      • Maxim∑

        I like Motorola but it doesn’t get any more stock than Nexus.

        Its possible to like more than one comapany

        • John Legere

          Don’t feed him.

          • Chris

            Too late.

          • Jason

            Agreed.

        • Chris

          But of course.

        • Kevin

          Except Nexus 5 isn’t even stock.

          • John Legere
          • JMonkeYJ

            He’s actually technically correct. N5 has a custom launcher (GEL) that is not available on any other stock device (including Google’s own) without hackery.

          • WickedToby741

            Saying that installing the GEL launcher on other devices is “hackery” is a bit much. That’s like saying installing any APK outside of an app store is hackery.

          • Tim242

            Except it takes quite a bit more than just installing an APK. HACKERY.

          • UniBroW

            actually, that’s all that’s involved unless you count searching xda. Either way, tried GEL and didn’t like it. Nova ftw

          • Cesar

            Can you hook me up with your dealer? Whatever you’re on must be some good stuff.

          • Pedro

            Maybe it’s just me.
            Stock would involve downloading the Android source code, compiling and loading it on your phone. THAT’S stock.

            The N5 doesn’t run stock. Pretty damn close, but not.