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Verizon Responds to FCC Complaint Over Blocking of Google Wallet, Says Google Needs to Change the App

Google Wallet originally launched in September of 2011. Here we are over a year later, and the mobile payment app is still not available to Verizon’s NFC-equipped phones. Even after refuting reports that they were blocking the app, when they actually were blocking the app, it’s still an app that is only available to select unlocked phones and a couple of others on Sprint. Why is that? 

Verizon has continued to argue that they aren’t stopping you from installing the app (which is now true thanks to the FCC), but that the app hasn’t been approved to work with their devices because it’s different than the thousands of other apps in the Google Play store. Their argument, which is laid out in a response to an FCC complaint (pictured below), suggests that since Google Wallet uses the “secure element” on your phone, it needs to go through a separate approval process of theirs, one that Google apparently knows about already. The letter also mentions that Google is free to remove the secure element requirement from the app, and join the likes of PayPal and Square that have approved payments apps. Yeah, because that doesn’t defeat the entire purpose of Wallet.

We aren’t exactly sure what this special “process” is that Verizon is referring to, but if we look at their own Isis Mobile Wallet app, we might have an idea. Isis – the joint venture between T-Mobile, AT&T and Verizon – is the first mobile payment system to use NFC-equipped SIM cards that appear to add an additional level of security to NFC payments. Google Wallet doesn’t currently work this way, it only uses the secure NFC chip attached to your phone. If building in NFC SIM support is all Google needs to do, you would think they would have gone that route already. Unless of course, it’s not that straightforward, which it likely isn’t.

At this point, it’s become a bit ridiculous. We all know that Verizon has a competing service that’s on the way. For Google Wallet to have been released over a year ago and still find itself left off of the hundreds of NFC phones that are available, it feels like this is much bigger than Google following a special “process.”

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  • ben dover

    I think it’s pretty obvious that Veri$on isn’t blocking it because of a “special process”. Their blocking it because it is competition for their product.

  • CompCrash

    I can’t wait til Google “fixes” it and Verizon blocks it again saying “It Google’s fault.”

  • Complaints about Google Wallet would make a lot more sense if you could actually use it anywhere

  • So is there a working Google Wallet app for the GNex somewhere? I downloaded one from this site about 2-3 months ago from a posting but it’s not working now.

  • They haven’t blocked the Windows Phone wallet, which is intended for NFC payments, also. Wonder what the difference is?

  • Tim Buchanan

    Is there a working apk I can download for my VZW GNex?

  • Kevin Pierce

    My (admittedly incomplete) understanding of the purpose of the “secure element” is to permit an NFC scan (of the phone’s last stored NFC value) to occur even if the phone has been powered down / has a dead battery. There may be other reasons to use this space beyond that.

  • Find the APK and install it. It works. To hell with verizon.

    • Tim Buchanan

      Can you provide a link?

  • WickedToby741

    Well let’s think about this. Who issues the SIM cards? Verizon. So who would Google have to sign a deal with in order to make Wallet work? Verizon. In other words Verizon probably wants control and a sizable share of the profit, something Google is obviously against.

    I don’t need Verizon to tell me what I can and cannot do with MY phone for the last time!

  • Evan Wickes

    ISIS uses the same technology that G-Wallet uses. VZW’s claim doesnt make any sense

  • Wayne Weeks

    To hell with the rest of the letter! Did you see the part that states that; “Verizon also has a straightforward process under which Google or others could launch devices on Verizon’s wireless network”
    PLEASE,PLEASE,PLEASE GOOGLE…release a phone on Verizon’s network on your own, unsubsidized, unVerizonfied, PURE Nexus, that you can control the update schedule on!!!
    said the Verizon Galaxy Nexus owner on 4.1.1
    Anxiously awaiting the day of the “dumb pipe” networks…

    • Legendary

      The Galaxy Nexus was their attempt at that. Verizon didn’t let them. Remember, it’s CDMA, not GSM.

  • skaletr

    id say lets all blow up that ladies email.

  • Joshua Barta

    What exactly is considered “basic hardware” in the response above?

  • Chris Hollenbeck

    It takes a letter from the FCC to get any information from Verizon. That’s pretty ridiculous.

  • I don’t see why customers stay with Verizon.

    • Doan

      Great coverage, reliability, and depending on location, crazy LTE speeds.

      And those grandfathered into unlimited data.

    • HTC1

      Ummm, because it’s them or have a phone that don’t work, PERIOD !!!

      • I dropped Verizon awhile back, and I assure you, I haven’t had any problems with “a phone that don’t work”.

        • HTC1

          Then you go nowhere and or are lucky. I’m not trying to argue but I have had them ALL !!!! I have paid ETF’s on them ALL !!!! You don’t pay over $200 five times for nothing. I travel the country(Sales). I live in a big city and populated state. All the rest do not work. You can’t drive more than ten miles without dead spots or losing calls. Trust me, you will see. I hate VZ and wish I could leave them. But I’m sorry, it’s proven. And people here are more concerned about the actual phone than service or else you would see everyone agreeing with me. If you don’t have VZ you don’t have a phone that works. Again, remember, I hate VZ but they are the best bar none.

  • Can’t wait to ditch verizon once someone other than AT&T or Sprint comes around with a decent 4G LTE network.

  • VinMessina

    While I mainly blame Verizon and will be leaving Verizon once my contract is up because of this, and many other issues, I have to also place a large amount of the blame on Google. If Verizon is claiming that it will not block users from downloading Google Wallet, then it’s as easy as Google offering the download on their Google Wallet page. Problem solved!

    Now ask yourself, why hasn’t Google offered the app for download via the Google Wallet site?. Of course, they shouldn’t have to, but obviously a large number of users want to use Google Wallet and can’t get it via their Play store.

    Sure, users can sideload it from some another source, but the reality is, many individuals aren’t comfortable with downloading an app that has access to their financial information from a site called XDA Developers.

    Google can easily solve everyone’s problems by offering the download via their Google Wallet site. So again I ask; “Why hasn’t Google done this?”

    • Bob G

      Someone did not read the entire post before commenting.

      • VinMessina

        I assume you’re referring to yourself?

  • anon23

    Just installed the app on my s3 Verizon. And works .can any one else do the same

  • ddevito

  • DanSan

    pretty simple…

    can somebody download google wallet on their verizon phone via side load?


    can somebody download google wallet on their Tmobile/AT&T phone via play store?


    can somebody download google wallet on their verizon phone via play store?

    No?… Ok, that means you’re blocking it verizon. elementary.

    • dylan84

      Can’t download Google Wallet on my AT&T HTC One X

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  • Rich R.

    The only thing good about Verizon is their coverage

    • Shaggy723

      Yeah, pretty much. Love how they cut out new every two (full discount), unlimited data, and keeping a Nexus from being a true Nexus. As soon as my contract is up, good coverage or not, I’m out…

  • chris125

    of course blame everyone else verizon

  • OMG. Is there no end to VZW’s blame game? Will they ever take responsibility for their desire to control every aspect of your phone?

  • The Dude

    Why does VZW do this? Because they can, and because Google doesn’t care.
    Next year, when Apple has NFC and integrates it into iOS (and Passbook), you can bet that it will work on VZW phones as well.

    • DanSan

      sadly this is totally the case. even though android out sells iphone 5 to 1 they dont seem to care until apple gets involved

    • Brent Cooper

      AMEN! Google needs to negotiate as tough as Apple. No bloatware or blocked features! And by the way, you mean when Apple invents NFC and mobile payment next year 😉

      • The Dude

        They are going to ‘invent’ it, then of course patent it, and proceed to sue everyone except Google.

        iPay and iSend – you heard it here first.

  • Nate

    At this point Verizon is just shooting themselves, Isis, and NFC payment in the foot. Why prevent one of the largest companies from using a service on one of the largest networks whereby forcing retailers to adopt the system? Does VZW really think the world is going to adopt NFC without support from other big players? Get with the times VZW – let Google in so we can all move forward.

    • Legendary

      IDK about in the U.S., but Canada has been set up for NFC and PayPass for years. In fact, the original rollout of PayPass payment systems is coming up on a decade now.

  • omgitzjose

    google needs to grow some balls. the carriers want to have andrid phones start playing by googles rules. theyve done it before with manufacturers i just cant understand why everyone is soo afraid of the carries. they need google not the other way around,

  • @Kellex How soon do you think this will now get fixed?

  • Prox

    So happy I left VZW. Love using my Wallet app.

  • zepfloyd

    Looks like another chance for…

    Hey Verizon –

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  • EC8CH

    That explanation:


    • TheFirstUniverseKing

      What the hell is that about? I keep seeing it spammed here.

      • Bob G

        First Rule of DL…

        • EC8CH

          see also…

          Second Rule of DL…

  • This response sounds a lot better than “We are in pending competition with this application, and allowing it to be installed would undermine our potential market share with existing customers”. VZW are a bunch of [email protected]

  • moelsen8

    F* verizon. I’m porting my number to GV within the next day or so! Can’t wait.

    • Andromedo

      I did this too, been working out great with Straight Talk on ATT

  • VZW = Devil

    • Luis Sanchez

      Don’t even compare the devil with them! The devil is much nicer guy compared to VZW.

  • Havoc70

    More BS spewed from Big Brother Red.

  • Do you guys want to call that number and get clarification why they block the app on the Google Play Store?

  • DC_Guy

    This is a grand load of bull if I’ve ever heard one. Are Google and Verizon currently working together to complete whatever approval process is needed in order for this to work on my Verizon Note 2?

  • EDNYLaw

    I’m an attorney who’s been involved with the FCC and VZW regarding this and previously tethering issues. Read the full complaint http://jasonklimek.webs.com/Google%20Wallet%20FCC%20Complaint.docx%5D. I’ve been fighting with VZW and filed a legal brief with the FCC (www.jasonklimek.webs.com) and this is VZW’s standard BS answer. In fact, Google Wallet only uses the secure element to store a unique Google ID which is used to access your real information in on Google’s servers.

    The FCC has yet to respond to my complaint, but this is VZW’s basic standard answer to all Google Wallet complaints except for paragraph 3, it’s nice they place the blame squarely on Google, never admitting that it is purely VZW’s hangup, not Google’s. In fact Google modified the app so that the user info wasn’t stored on the secure element, initially it was.

    • EC8CH

      Hey… thanks for taking all our menial online b!tching about VZW and turning it into action Mr. Lawyer man. No sarcasm intended.

      • EDNYLaw

        Well thanks, but I enjoy bitching too 🙂 I just happen to be in a position to do it effectively. Plus I love tormenting VZW 🙂 Helping cost them $1.25 million was fun, I wanted to go for an even $5 million

        • +1000000 for tormenting VZW. They’re deserving of every bit you can muster!

        • I hope their rectum has NFC.
          Keep pushing!

        • sgtguthrie

          Love it! Go for the jugular! I can’t wait to leave VZW!!! I will likely miss the coverage, but I have good coverage with T-Mobile almost everywhere I go…

        • blackmetal

          For reasons like these is why I’ve been making sure to get my money’s worth of unlimited data.

          • EDNYLaw

            Agreed. If VZW ever yanks my unlimited, Straight Talk here I come. $45/month unlimited (albeit throttled at some undisclosed point) everything and you can use AT&T or T-Mo towers. Eat it VZW, I’m done with it. Plus updates straight from Google, no carrier BS. Seems pretty good…

          • Hunter

            2GB, its disclosed

          • EDNYLaw

            I thought it was a “soft” cap. I heard anywhere from 500 MB to 4GB. But whatever, I really don’t go over a GB unless I’m watching Netflix in a hotel or something. I just like the unlimited for those few instances where I can pull several GB in a couple days. I’m not so concerned about throttling as I am about seeing a giant bill.

          • Jamie Davis

            That is exactly my plan.

          • Youre going to want to go with tmo unlimited plan, they dont throttle you after 1 or 2 gigs of data usage like straight talk. Plus straight talk has been known to steal numbers if they drop you.

          • EDNYLaw

            See… I’ve researched that and T-Mobile is more expensive and AT&T has better coverage (albeit slower speeds). One of the fun parts of being an attorney, f*cking with people who steal things from me. Just ask Verizon and their attempts to take away tethering. The main concern for me is reception, and I think in the NYC metro area AT&T has the best service (between AT&T and T-Mo).

          • Tim242

            Their TOS also prohibits streaming of any kind

          • Tony Allen

            And downloading apps, as well as a bunch of other things you would normally use your Android smartphone for.

          • socalrailroader

            Yeah Verizon, because nobody streams stuff on phones now days 😉

          • Tim242

            I’m confused by your reply.

          • blackmetal

            Whoops there was supposed to be an attachment to my post. Anyway FU Verizon enough of the BS!

          • Suralin

            150 GB? Really? What the heck are you downloading?

          • antwonw

            HOLY CRAP! What are you downloading?

          • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

            @disqus_LFmF9Gya72:disqus WTF YOU MANAIC! LOL

          • I raise your data usage with mine 😉

          • Inthus

            Yay for unlimited!

        • The biggest part of that lie is that they aren’t blocking the app from being downloaded on their network.

          My Gnex STILL shows as incompatible on the play store with the wallet app.

          Irritating beyond belief.

          • EDNYLaw

            Yeah, it’s a complete lie. Google said VZW requested the app be blocked. The FCC said in its 7/31/12 decision that VZW causing the app to be blocked (by asking Google to do it) violated C Block. They just have really crappy lawyers writing their PR statements. Basically, they’re not admitting liability (which is SOP for attorneys) but their not saying WHY they aren’t violating C Block. I could easily make the argument as to why they aren’t (whether it would hold weight or not is debatable) but I could definitely make a better argument than: “It’s not our fault Google won’t do what we say and our users suffer because of it.”

          • EC8CH

            Like you said maybe their best argument is BS and they know it so they are choosing to simply deny without offering any excuse.

          • EDNYLaw

            That could be the case. Though I’m willing to bet the majority of their legal team is a bunch of old lawyers who barely know how to use smartphones and are probably fairly ineffectively lawyers to begin with (don’t get me started on the state of lawyers today). In my mind, it’d be best to offer up some time of defense so the FCC can be like, well, they’re not flagrantly violating the regulation… they have a reason. As we all know, the FCC doesn’t seem to be too keen on enforcement. So if VZW was to give them a little something… but in any case, makes my job easier 🙂

        • michael arazan

          I’m glad the money vzw screws us out of was screwed out of them in legal fees, this made my day.

          I hope a lawyer with enough technical knowledge can prove that Google had already changed the secure element deal with payment identification. If not, I’m sure Google would be more than happy to provide you with evidence of the fact willingly for free to make verizon and the FCC see that it is compliant, and shows vzw is Lying as usual and hopefully will be fined for blocking customers again.

    • gorkon

      SO basically VZW is lying through their teeth without legally lying right? 🙂

      After I’ve been able to find the APK on my own AND load it AND have it work….well I think Verizon needs to get with the program!

      • EDNYLaw

        Yes, VZW is lying, read the complaint. All the technicalities and law are laid out so even the FCC can understand it 🙂

    • How long do you think until Google Wallet becomes accessible to Verizon Phones? Also has anyone filled a complaint against VZW’s Galaxy S3 Global Phone function option? They (VZW) promised that option and still have failed to deliver it. Would that be false advertising at this point?

      • EDNYLaw

        Umm… well it’s been 1.5 months since I’ve submitted the complaint to the FCC and I haven’t heard anything. For the tethering apps, I submitted the complaint in Dec 2011, Free Press submitted theirs in like Oct 2011, the FCC made a ruling 7/31/12. So going by history, I’d say somewhere Q2 next year if in fact the FCC agrees (I don’t know how the couldn’t) or even acts at all. But everyone can help! Download a copy of my complaint, replace my name with yours and send it to your senators and the FCC!

    • DroidBricker

      Thanks for going to bat for all of us! Nice that we have someone that can turn “F-Verizon” comments into a legal action!

    • Brent Cooper

      Thank you for taking action! Sad though that it takes lawyers to be able to complain, be heard, and get a lot of things done. But if that’s what it takes at the moment, you have all my support!

    • Since you have knowledge of this kind of stuff do petitions help with situations like this?

      • EDNYLaw

        I you can get one on change.org to actually gain some traction, then I think if you were to submit it to the FCC, it might have an effect. I think the most effective way to deal with this is to take my complaint, fill in your name and submit it to the FCC and your US representatives. I don’t care about people using my complaint, I don’t need the credit, I’d rather have the word out. The complaint has been vetted by many professionals in the Android community and I (as an admitted attorney) approve of all the law and legal arguments. Go forth and send it out!

        • Alright more than happy to maybe Droid-life will post this up so that everyone will do it.

          • EDNYLaw

            Maybe they will. HEAR THAT GUYS… HINT HINT!

    • About the free tethering… it’s still allowed right? I can root my Note 2, install Wifi Tether, and no issues will happen correct?

      Been doing it on my GNex, just want to clarify.

      • EDNYLaw

        If you’re grandfathered unlimited “technically” you cannot free tether. In practice, you can download the app, install and tether. If you get caught, you’re subject to whatever VZW’s penalties are for “illegal” tethering. If you’re tiered, then have no fear. You can tether to your heart’s content as it’s built into the pricing structure. That being said, I have unlimited and very occasionally tether (only when I’m on vacation in a hotel and want to watch Netflix or something, so not very often at all) and I’ve never run into an issue. Use at your own risk, but if you’re responsible (150 GB might be going overboard but who am I to say) I’d say the odds of you getting hit with tethering charges are extremely small.

        • Alright thanks for the information! And yeah I’m on unlimited!

        • Tim242

          Actually, tetherinig is fully legal; on all plans per FCC Block C. This was widely reported over the summer.

          • EDNYLaw

            Nope. No C Block carrier can block tethering apps. But grandfathered unlimited are still subject to original TOS preventing tethering. It is what it is.

        • antinorm

          There was a $30/month add on offered for a little while last year that made it “legal” to tether if you had an unlimited plan. If you have grandfathered unlimited data and that add on (like I do)…hello, unlimited tethering without any worries.

      • Tim242

        You don’t have to do any of that to get hotspot on the Note II. Just download HotSpot Toggle by Mehdy. That toggles the built in Hotspot without checking for subscription.

        • Well I still want to root for other reasons like AdAway and Titanium backup, btw weren’t you on Sprint?

          • Tim242

            I have been a Verizon customer for 3 years now. I work for Sprint though.

    • CapnShiner

      So we’re supposed to believe that you’re a lawyer and are involved with the FCC and Verizon Wireless just because you said so in a comment on a tech blog on the internet? Well, if that’s the case then I’m actually Lowell McAdam, CEO of Verizon, and I don’t appreciate you calling Verizon’s response BS. Verizon Wireless does not block Google Wallet. Verizon simply refuses to allow Google Wallet to be installed on Verizon devices because it requires access to the secure element. That’s totally not the same thing at all.


      • EC8CH

        Pretty sure this guy is who he says…
        VZW’s response is BS…
        and your arrangement is as well.

    • Chase

      Seeing as you are a lawyer, you would surely be able to point me to the part of the Constitution that gives the Federal government power to meddle in such things.

      • EDNYLaw

        Article II lays out the powers of the executive branch, of which the FCC is part of since it’s an executive agency charged with the enforcement of regulations. If there is legislation, that would be under the commerce clause, Article I, section 8.

        • EC8CH

          Regulating and enforcing the term by which public airspace is used to ensure the greatest good is done for the nation…

          How dare the government assume such powers… amiright?

          • EDNYLaw

            Ha! Yes, how dare the government regulate industry so we, as the consumers, aren’t bent over and raped by the monopolistic intentions of corporations only seeking to increase their bottom line. I love when people ask questions like and seriously think they’re right. Makes my day, it really does 🙂

    • rengek

      Bravo, I don’t know what is more insulting VZ not responding or responding with a standard form letter they pull out of a drawer. Obviously, they know they don’t have to do anything yet until either the FCC gets involved or a public backlash.

    • thajack

      My hat’s off to you, friend.

  • CodeToJoy

    I’m so sick of Verizon and their BS processes. I’m sure they’d like to say that if Google submitted their OS updates in a certain process, all the phones would be on 4.2 now – but we know very well that’s not true (cough cough three updates behind cough cough).

  • DroidBricker

    Thanks! I’ll add Michelle Elliot to my Verizon hatemail list!

  • William Peterson

    Sucks to have to circumvent the process but it works great on the GS3 when using this method on xda. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1810040
    [MOD] Latest Google Wallet (11/29/12)

  • ToddAwesome

    Speaking from experience, Google Wallet fried the secure element on my GNex. I had originally installed it via the web Play store trick, I was stock, never did a hard reset or anything. One day, boom, secure element was shot. Damn you Google Wallet! (thankfully Samsung replaced my board and all is well, though I’ve yet to tread back into the Wallet waters just in case Wallet had anything to do with it).

  • Riversidian

    This is one reason out of many why I can’t stand Verizon and their control issues. They want to control every device, they want to slap a Verizon logo on every device, they want everything their way or the highway. Although I miss the coverage, I’m glad I’m not bound to these control freaks anymore.

  • Immolate

    You have to get all the big players together on something like this and hammer out an agreement. If you leave out the Googles and/or the Apples, you’re going to start a war.

  • Tony

    1st paragraph, 3rd sentence. Please fix.

  • NexusPhan69

    Spam that phone number!

  • John
    • InyRules

      My life has been greatly enriched because I have seen this gif. Thank you, good sir.

  • Excuses excuses, go stand in the corner verizon, you are a bad liar…

  • Guest

    Oh, please..

  • What they are saying is that we can make payments, but not using the phone’s built in hardware security with NFC. It’s so they can boast Isis has increased security standards over Wallet and gain more customers to Isis.

    • 3M4NU31


    • Jared Fulgham

      This reason is why I will refuse to use Isis. I even live close to the SLC, UT test area, but I absolutely will not use their system.

  • sc0rch3d

    stopped using google wallet months ago. not enough places in my area equipped with the nfc capability and those with it, it hardly ever works.

    • Go Hawkeyes

      I keep finding more and more places with NFC capability. And I’ve never had a problem getting Wallet to work.

      • Robhimself79

        Same here. Pay pass is in a lot of stores already. Granted nothing g is directly Google wallet related in my area but I can use Google wallet to pay for things.

      • EC8CH

        Coke Vending machine at my work has Paypass… Google Wallet Score!

        • moelsen8

          that is awesome

          • EC8CH

            awesome for Coke, not so awesome for Pepsi machine next to it.

          • moelsen8

            who really wants pepsi anyway though, am i right? 😛

          • Go Hawkeyes

            I want the Mtn Dew from the Pepsi machine! But if my Coke machine had NFC I’d honestly switch to a Coke product. And go broke much faster since I wouldn’t ever have to worry about having a buck on me.

        • Go Hawkeyes

          Sooo jealous.

      • banjoonmyknee

        For some reason, people seem to be under the mistaken impression that you have to see “Google Wallet” on the scanner. GW works with all Paypass scanners.

    • Dave

      It would have wider adoption if more people would have it enabled on their phones. Unfortunately, certain players (ahem, Verizon) are trying to keep it at bay while they roll out their own competing service.

    • banjoonmyknee

      Hacked it onto my VZW Galaxy S3 and have been using it in lots of places – CVS, McDonalds, Sports Authority, ShopRite, Radio Shack, Sunoco, Walgreens, and the local mom ‘n’ pop deli by me. Haven’t had a problem with it yet.

      Have you checked http://www.mastercard.us/cardholder-services/paypass-locator.html ? Within 20 miles of my house, there are over 1600 Paypass providers, which, of course, means Google Wallet will work on them.

      • sc0rch3d

        nw side of houston, about 50 places in the vicinty…oh yea they’re all named mcds, cvs, petco, whataburger, and taco cabana. all places that i don’t go to. in houston…really…that’s it?

        only 2 places need to adopt this and it’ll spread like wildfire…all gas stations and all grocery stores.

      • Raven

        Cool link. Hmm, 5 McDonald’s and a CVS in my area. Too bad I hate McDonald’s. Guess I will be waiting a little longer to be interested in NFC payments.

    • fish1552

      That’s because nobody can USE the app thanks to providers, so nobody uses it. Which then does not motivate more stores to deploy it, which keeps people from using the app, which then causes even fewer stores to consider it…..[repeat as many times as necessary]

      All this is exactly what Verizon, AT&T & T-Mobile want, so they can deploy THEIRS and subsidize the equipment (I’ll lay money on that) to make it even cheaper for the stores and more likely to be adopted.

  • Edward Figueroa

    I blame Google. They are getting stepped on from right to left…

  • infogulch

    This week, in the “Verizon Wireless is Evil” series….

    • If they are only going to address that fact once per week, then the series will go on for eternity!

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  • Brent Cooper

    I hate verizon but I cant leave their coverage. Damn verizon

    • Kyle Miller

      I can leave and go to AT&T. Never to Sprint. Maybe back to T-Mobile. Maybe. But on VZW I’m grandfathered into that illustrious unlimited data and text.

      • Go Hawkeyes

        Soon as they pry unlimited from my hands I’m gone.

        • Rob

          I feel you, I have been thinking Nexus 4 and $50 AT&T unlimited prepaid data a month… but then remember how freaking fast LTE is compared to 3G.

          For my wife though…

          • mitchsurp

            Sadly, AT&T’s $50/month plan doesn’t include data for smartphones. That’s a separate data package, and is $60/month for Unl talk, Unl txt and 1GB of data.

          • Robhimself79

            I’m gone at the end of my current contract because I have been told my grandfathered plan is no longer going to be available to me. Not to mention the discounts on phones are non existent. I’m not paying 300 for a phone that Verizon is charging me too much to use.

          • Rob

            $300? Try $700. That’s how much my S3 cost (I wasn’t up for a renewal yet). And to keep unlimited I will have to do the same for my next phone (unless they change their minds again on how to handle us). If they yank me from unlimited data I will at least be free to go wherever I please.

      • banjoonmyknee

        Counting the days here. My son is looking into smartphones and I’ve already told him to use T-Mobile instead of VZW. Our whole family will be off VZW by 2014.

      • JRomeo

        tmobile has illustrious unlimited data and text on their value plans, even for new customers.