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You Should Be Scared of Verizon’s Shared Data Plans [Opinion]

 

Verizon’s CFO Fran Shammo spoke at the JP Morgan Media and Telecom conference this morning, providing further detail on their plans for shared or family data tiers. During his conversation, he mentioned the end of grandfathered unlimited data plans, but before that he talked specifically about these shared tiers. While he didn’t go into detail on how they would be priced or structured as far as data amounts go, he did say that Verizon will have no problem making money off of them in the very near future. 

Here is the quote:

We want the connections to come in and the way we’ve designed our plan, this plan is built on tiers. And as we look at the future growth of LTE consumption because of the speeds and video consumption and consumption of other end-to-end type devices, it’s going to be more important that people will start to upgrade in the tiers as they start to really realize the benefits of the LTE network.

So two things here. One is, revenue will continue to grow as we get into data shared plans and people start to connect more devices (as my pad example). And then over the future time, as they add more devices, they are going to have to buy up in tiers. So again you will see the revenue increase there.

The way we designed this, we really shouldn’t see a short term decline.

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As I’m listening to him say all of this, my jaw slowly dropped to my desk and remained there for a few minutes. Investors and shareholders are probably ecstatic that Shammo feels this way, however, what about us, the consumer?

To me at least, all I took from this conversation was that these tiers have been researched and built so perfectly, that you and I will be forced to purchase up in them. There will be a base of sorts that your family can nibble on, but as we continue to realize how powerful LTE is and decide that we want to connect more and more devices to it, that we will also be forced to pay more and more. These weren’t created to make your life simple, although that may be one of the selling points. No, these were created with the idea that as data consumption grows, you won’t have a choice but to pay more to get more data to use. Welcome to the future of mobile data.

Look, again, I get that this is a business for Verizon and they need to make money. But with that said, the upgrade fees, online bill pay fees, ending of “New Every Two” deals, removal of 1-year contracts, and of course unlimited data have become a bit much. The scary thing is, that Verizon won’t be the only one to make this move. You can jump ship if you don’t like it, but don’t expect that your next carrier will avoid the shared data model for long. Verizon didn’t create this as a test, they created it to be the future.

I guess there hasn’t been a better time to upgrade.

  • Paul


    as we continue to realize how powerful LTE is and decide that we want to connect more and more devices to it, that we will also be forced to pay more and more”

    Didn’t we already do that? We had to pay $30 per device originally, so if you wanted another device that you’d lightly use, you’d have to pay $30 more per month for data alone. It sucks that unlimited data is gone, but this could end up being a lot cheaper for someone who wants multiple devices than anything they offer now – or even the old unlimited plans, depending on how many devices someone owns.

  • I have a question-I’m currently with Verizon (family plan-no data) and am considering adding a data plan. At this time, there is no longer unlimited data being offered. When is the new plan going into effect? Will this be a “shared” data plan? Meaning will one price of data be shared by everyone on my family plan. Currently I’d have to purchase a data plan per line. I am considering leaving Verizon for Sprint, or one of the non-contract companies (Virgin, Boost, etc.) What do you all think? Any info?

  • Nathan Rieland

    I’m imagining $45 for 2GB shared data. What do you expect to be the three base tiers?

  • Cellphone Fiend

    I have 3 phones on family share, each with unlimited data at $30 each. If I lose unlimited data I am simply going to drop data altogether and just use talk and text. I lived before data on my phone and I will live without it. Plus I will save $90 per month. I already bought 3 Verizon discontinued LGVX9900 off e-bay in new condition at an excellent price. If Verizon stops the unlimited, I stop paying for data. And if they decide to keep the unlimited then the LGVX9900 will go into my collection……don’t ask why I have a collection.

  • If this happens I am leaving Verizon. They ONLY reason I am not on a GSM carrier is because of the unlimited data, and sure verizon has great service. I go to Europe annually and getting a GSM phone will solve that for me as well…I will see how it goes and my next Nexus might be GSM Nexus.

  • I’ve actually wanted shared data for years but with these tiers Verizon and all the wireless carriers are gonna f*ck it up for everyone. Y’know if they offered decent caps, I wouldn’t be concerned..but they won’t. Somebody needs to sue these companies before they will be reasonable and who knows when that will happen.

  • Bret Farris

    I’m already paying $220 a month for two phones with grandfathered in unlimited data plans. If that bill goes up again, I’m dumping the smart phones all together. Wi-Fi is everywhere so, I can just use that. And if they end my unlimited data plan, that voids my contract and I will leave anyways.

  • Wyatt

    Might as well go back to having a basic phone now…

  • skzion

    Why are so many comments being hidden?

    If Verizon ends grandfathered unlimited data, I would be free to go for deals to new subscibers of other services. One can’t get free phones anymore doing this, but the savings would be substantial. Also, if one’s preferred phone were not on Verizon, one could move.

    No, this news is not good. Still, I wonder if Verizon has quite thought this through.

  • Well, I will wait for Verizon prices before I make a decision. My wife and I currently share a family plan and we are paying like $60 a month for our data plans (2GB on both phones), and if Verizon gives us 4GB for around $30 for me will be a sweet deal since we very rarely go over 3GB (combine), been my self the biggest data consumer.

  • Positive HxC Go

    Maybe it’s me, but I have no problem paying $500 for a phone off contract (I usually change phones once a year). I don’t think they’ll be able to touch my unlimited data that way. When they do, it won’t be much of a problem as I won’t have an early term fee to go elsewear if there are better options out there. Renewal discounts are a joke.

  • mikeym0p

    But since all the carriers are hurting the consumer, I’m considering AT&T (or T-mo when they get international bands) if I can’t have the best service I’m at least getting the unlocked device I want.

  • mikeym0p

    I feel like it’ll just cycle back down again, once all the carriers ditch unlimited data and they all have LTE they’ll need something to compete. So they’ll start to offer cheaper and cheaper data packages and either beat our usage or reach unlimited again. Once the LTE roll out is complete on all the carriers it’ll be a repeat of the 3g competition of coverage, speed and price.

  • LMI500

    Corporation greed over consumer need!!!!

  • C-Law

    Leaving verizon after 12 years when my gnex contract is up. Hello Google play store phone purchase and unsubsidized monthly plan from T-Mobile!

  • Sm1tty300

    So if I read this right they want everyone to get an I-Phone not to upgrade to a nice new Android. Sounds like other back yard deals.

  • Jarred Sutherland

    Since greedy corporations are all alike and all carriers will adopt this option in the near future, I suppose it’s either put up or shut up. Shut up in this case being to shut up your wallets and switch back to a basic phone with basic features at best. I am tired of being pushed, looks like the dumb phone will be a future device for me.

    Oh well, my tablet works just fine for me on wifi.

  • nozkcb

    The good news is the market will eventually come to some sort of equilibrium balance and the companies will have to adjust to be competitive. They can’t all screw us because customers will just stop buying the overpriced service they’re selling. Natural market forces should (fingers crossed) eventually fix this. Well, unless the government gets involved. . . . then we’re all screwed.

  • Tony Allen

    This upsets me greatly, what upsets me more greatly are the people who’re threatening to jump to Sprint.

    Sprint will soon either:
    A. Go bankrupt. B. Get rid of unlimited, and go the same/similar way as Verizon’s
    You’re all fooling yourselves if you think jumping carriers is going to get you away from this disease. Proving a point, so you can what?

    What are you all going to do when Sprint announces 6 months out, after Verizon enacts this, that they’re doing away with unlimited data as well, forcing everyone onto tiers? Do you honestly think switching to another network, just to fall for the old bait-and-switch is worth it? There’s a reason Sprint is holding out onto their ‘true unlimited’ waiting til absolutely everyone else does away with unlimited data, wait for the flood *trickle more likely* of new customers, then slams you with tiered data. It will happen.

  • jawtab

    leaving verizon the solution? I doubt AT&T has better data coverage. OR am I wrong??? At least that get cool phones first Verizon sure does get the old dumpy looking stuff.

    If reception is descent on the Samsung Note, I’ll switch to ATT for that sweet massive screen!

  • Mordecaidrake

    I just don’t understand this logic, okay now I can only use 2gb say of data, which I’ll kill listening to pandora on the way to and from work. So they’ll say ‘use wifi more’ what the f is the point of the phone if I have to use wifi? I might as well dump having a smartphone. Hell using an hour of GPS will probably use more than 1gb of data so there goes the navigation as well.

  • ostensibly

    I don’t understand why people will pay increasingly exorbitant rates for (for most people) non-essential services like streaming music and watching tv/movies. I’m sure research indicates a consumer desire for more wireless data capacity, but the value of the service vs. cost is losing ground for me.

  • Bamajag

    BOHICA

  • Epell

    I dont get this, how are they gonna avoid lawsuits?
    Does the law protect consumer from company changing terms of contract without consent?

    I feel like they will just really sweeten the deal on shared data plan to lure customers away from unlimited data plan.

    • They aren’t changing mid-contract. It will happen either when your contract expires, or when you upgrade (say after 20 months) and then sign a new contract. (And there is also all the discussion if data is really part of the contract but I won’t go there!).

      Mobile contracts have been different from a number of others, in that carriers have allowed people off contract to continue on the original terms and price. Many/most things are not like this, the point of those contracts is to get a fixed price for a fixed term, at contract expiration things can get repriced. This move looks like the first step towards that type of model.

      • Actually, hard to know without more details! Some articles suggest that (for now) you will only have to change if you move to 4g.

  • Martin Nilsson

    They will most likely screw you over but if done right – why not? Lets just say you pay $1o for 5 GB of data. Getting a second phone or tablet would demand you to pay another $10 just for data. You could of course with a shared plan simply split your 5 GB of data over the two devices or you could go to the next tier. Lets say you pay $15 for 10 GB of data. Done right it could improve it even for the customer. But as said, the company will most likely feed it self first…

  • angermeans

    How is it greener when sprint doesn’t even have LTE and won’t for years (at least one of decent size)? Not to mention since getting the iPhone sprint has struggled even getting half a mega bit down and much less up. You can have unlimited data bu I it is slow why would you want it. Don’t worry as sprint is only a few months off of ditching their nlimited as well and I bet it hits bout the time they get their first couple LTE markets launched

  • Carlos Fernandez

    So let me get this straight. I have now my Motorola Droid X which I got in December 2010 and my contract expire in December 2012 I was holding to renew my contract for a really good phone and when I heard the news about Google opening the Nexus program to multiple manufacturers at a time, selling it directly through Google Play Store I said Hell Yeah I’m waiting until that. But my question is if I upgrade now to a 4G phone before the Shared Data Plans get active will I keep my Unlimited 4G Data or is going to get axed anyways?

    • florious80

      That’s the exact question I’m wondering right now as well. It is currently hard to say what Verizon will end up doing until more is revealed by this blog and others. My advice is to upgrade now (or just before this takes place) to at least lock into 2 yrs of unlimited. They can’t change the grandfathered plan whose contract is still active at the time of this change. But beyond that who knows. Or maybe they’ll be real evil and literally dump everyone off of unlimited but allows everyone to terminate contract immediately. T.T

  • Jwhap

    I would have been pissed if they would have said they were raising the price of unlimited data 20 bucks for existing grandfathered customers but I would have paid it. I would have been pissed….but I would have paid it.

    Luckily my wife is on T-Mobile (been a customer for 14 years) and with Google selling off contract phones on the play store I will close my 3 lines (1 unlimited data, 1 feature phone line, and my 4g line for my tablet) and I will sign up under my wife’s line. Sadly the 4g tablet data, I never use because I am always on wifi with the exception of vacations. So I pay for stuff I don’t generally use anyway.

    Apparently Verizon does not need my money and I will take it elsewhere. I moved to Verizon to snag unlimited data on the most reliable network and upgraded to 4g to keep it on a 4g phone. They do not get that people will leave.

    I also had cancelled my netflix subscription when that fiasco went down. I am a principal voter when it comes to my money and where it gets spent!

  • CapnShiner

    I agree that the carriers(not just Verizon) are getting greedier and greedier but I do think that being outraged by this is sort of a knee-jerk reaction. We don’t know what the pricing is going to be yet. I am not expecting it to be low or even reasonable, but we still don’t know. I am also wondering if all this only refers to family plans. They keep talking about share plans and that doesn’t really make sense when applied to an individual plan that only has one line on it. I’m hoping that it does only apply to family plans.

  • There is a possibility this is only in response to the impending iPhone LTE release. To prevent anyone upgrading to a 4G iPhone from having unlimited… just what the CEO of AT&T just said he regrets most.

    We still don’t know if us grandfathered current 4G LTE users will continue to be grandfathered… here’s hoping.

  • autocannon

    Well I suppose that I’ll be going back to a dumb phone then. I’ll still get the Verizon network, but I’ll be paying them less money. I can live with a WIFI only lifestyle.

  • Tired of it

    Greed…

  • moozicmon

    The minute they take away the grandfathered unlimited plans is the minute I buy an unlocked phone and say goodbye to contracts forever. Oh, and if they ever pull that stunt there’ll be no ETF to pay as it changes the terms and conditions of the original contract. Really, it would be one of the dumbest moves they could make… which is saying a lot all things considered…

  • John

    The US market is saturated; there’s no more customers to woo onto cellphones – everyone who wants a cell phone has one. There are only two ways for the telecoms to raise money now – steal customers from another carrier, or milk their customers for more.

    • AE35

      and clearly verizon thinks of us as cows.

  • Sporttster

    Figures they’d pull this BS. I just got Dish network and they’ve got a Remote app that I can get all their programming remotely and I’m finally starting to use some of the friggin data I’ve been paying out the nose for and now they’re gonna pull this. Well go ahead and ramp it up you jerks. Make us pay more. I can just as easily go back to a dumb phone and I’m sure many others will, too, and THEN where will your new, shiny LTE network be? This isn’t gasoline. I don’t NEED a super phone….better remember that….

  • Bionic

    When im doing anything data hungry im on wifi anyway. Me and my wife only use about 1 GB per month together. So if 2GB cost 30 each or better yet, 45 total, we’re fine.

  • Bionic

    You people are fooling yourselves if you think ATT and Sprint wont get rid of unlimited data as well. Everyone keeps saying ill jump to sprint, well guess what, they are gonna do it too, eventually.

  • Knlegend1

    The price has to be right…period. If 2 to 3gbs makes my bill lower than $100 then I’m sold.

  • Edward

    Friends,

    I just created a petition: Verizon Wireless: allow unlimited users on 4G to keep unlimited data for another upgrade, because I care deeply about this very important issue.

    I’m trying to collect 100 signatures, and I could really use your help.

    To read more about what I’m trying to do and to sign my petition, click here:
    http://www.change.org/petitions/verizon-wireless-allow-unlimited-users-on-4g-to-keep-unlimited-data-for-another-upgrade?share_id=vDqjSzsUaQpe=pce

    It’ll just take a minute!

    Once you’re done, please ask your friends to sign the petition as well. Grassroots movements succeed because people like you are willing to spread the word!

    edward

    • Sporttster

      Not gonna upgrade if they’re gonna make me pay more than I already am for what I’ve got…forget it. I’ll keep my Razr…

    • AE35

      Petitions don’t work. Wanna scare Verizon? Call your Federal representative. Politicians fear disgruntled constituents and carriers fear regulation minded politicians.

  • me

    It’s either going to be like what he said: people buying into the higher tiers or the opposite: people are going to use less and less data and maybe get rid of their smartphone/connected devices.

  • TankRizzo

    Locked down phones and a wonderful new tiered data plan, no grandfathering in. I see absolutely NO reason to stay with Verizon.

  • paraplu
  • Radgatt

    Not sure if this has been asked yet…can you use an LTE phone on a prepaid plan? If so, doesn’t Verizon offer an unlimited prepaid plan for $50/month?

  • Angry Customer

    Dear Verizon,

    I am shocked that you decide to do this, simply for the pure fact that you offer phones that are practically mobile computers. You should have thought that with so many features (Netflix, Google Maps, E-mail and Pandora), that your customers would have been consuming so much data. Not to mention that every month, there seems to be a new phone that is even bigger and better with features that can run applications faster and faster. Maybe you should have thought about your business plan and motto before you wanted to cut the one thing that was preventing your customers from leaving. I seriously hope you reconsider this idea and keep your customers happy.

    Sincerely,

    A very unhappy Verizon Customer…

  • possomcrast

    If we sign a petition that we will leave if they do this they will have no choice but to change their mind. We just need enough people to say they will leave like when the first introduced tired data plans.

  • sushah23

    I think it’s time we go back to feature phone and use the phone to really call each other. Hopefully that will bring back the days when people will talk to each other when they meet instead of “checking-in” and updating social network status!! I am guilty of all of the above and very much tangled in “always connected” ecosystem. Seems like time to get disconnected and be social in real life!!

  • Shane McKeever

    All this and then the eventual throttling.

  • guest

    We pay $70 and only use about 1GB of our unlimited plan.
    We pay another $70 and only use about 0.5GB on our other device.

    So as long as this “family data” is less than $140 for 1.5GB… we will actually be SAVING money and getting more data.

    I feel bad for the guys that use 20GB per month. But we sure don’t. And we use our devices HEAVILY all day long. (We just don’t watch videos… and we use wi-fi much of the day.)

  • Dom Suppa

    looks like when my contract is done in a year so am I with Verizon.

  • not scared ,just headin to sprint, hell they even have updated gnexes,wifes company has a discount at verizon and sprint ,so verizon can kiss where the sun don’t shine

  • Where is ANONYMOUS when you have a company that needs their eyes opened…

  • FknTwizted

    If forced we should petition for rollover data since we “paid” for it force them to get rid of the use it or lose it

  • GreenMeansGo

    Since corporations care more about shareholders than consumers, and since there really isn’t much difference in how different corporations treat consumers, we have only one choice: We must become shareholders. Doesn’t matter how many shares. Just buy one or two and we’ll have a voice, albeit tiny, that is still louder than the voice of the non-invested consumer!

  • Garrett

    Once my unlimited plan goes away I’m going Sprint

  • srh12

    Wait wait wait…..what’s stopping us from simply buying devices outright off of contract? They cant boot us from the grandfathered if we arent upgrading and re-upping the contract correct??

    • This is what I’m hoping myself. My wife is currently on an unlimited data plan but it’ll be another year before it’s time to upgrade. I might as well start saving for a new phone for her now, because I’m not planning to let her drop the unlimited data if I don’t have to.

    • AE35

      Of course they can. They are not bound by a contract so as a month 2 month they can change your terms any time they want. It has nothing to do with upgrades. It’s about contract expiration and you don’t have one so you’re not protected.

      Did you really think it would be that easy to avoid this?

  • X2caleb2X

    I guess it’s time to make the jump

  • chris125

    so what he is saying is they are going to make really small tiers with high prices and cause people to spend more than they already do on plans. Well F U verizon once my contract is up I will look elsewhere and probably to a gsm carrier so I can get unlocked phones and not deal with the carrier bs.

  • Troubled_Asian

    Everything about Verizon sucks these days… All this douchery will catch up to them eventually.

  • Tom

    That picture below is phenomenal….LOL

  • Crobson1985

    I use my data a lot while I’m at work since I don’t sit in an office I’m on the road all day. If they limit my data I will just cancel my contract and just use my company provided phone for calls. The only reason I have a cell phone is for the unlimited data plan if they take it from me then I wont be with them any more plain and simple.

  • you suck, Verizon! don’t you take enough money from us suckers already??? Oh yeah, where’s my 4.04 G-Nex update???

  • MattSweeden

    Heres the link for a petition. http://goo.gl/omRxv

  • chrisbox29

    Good news is we’ll all be willing to jump ship now just to get the phones we want. This will make their sorry a** phone line-up look even more pathetic. No unlitited data, you better have the phone I want or it’s bye-bye for a carrier that does. No more settling because of unlitited data!

    • chris125

      Agree.

  • Dave Maillet

    Here’s another thing I’m really concerned about….it we all are forced into tiered data, what happens to tethering? I am of the opinion that a GB is a GB no matter what that content is. If I’m paying for capped data, I’ll be damned if I’m forced to pay extra to tether another device to use that same exact data. Can’t have it both ways if you ask me. Either keep unlimited data and charge for tethering (I don’t really agree with this but….) or go to tiers and lose the right to charge extra for tethering.

  • Do they at least let you use your phone as a wifi hot spot for free if you are on a tiered plan?

  • Dave Maillet

    There are several people saying “vote with your wallet”. Unfortunately that’s not possible for everyone. The 4 major providers all have different footprints in different areas of the country, which makes it hard for users to just walk away. I have Verizon now and they’re the only reliable provider in my area. Until the other 3 get better coverage in my area, I’m pretty much stuck. I either choose to pay another provider nearly the same amount for worse coverage. In a truly free market we would have the ability to do this. Companies are forced to lure customers by offering one of three major things: 1. better coverage 2. better pricing 3. better equipment/services . It’s apparent that they big 4 have no interest in a price war since I’m pretty sure none of them have decreased their pricing recently. There is definitely a coverage war since they’re all touting their 4g networks. Equipment/services I’d say are a wash….sometimes each of the 4 gets the best superphone, and they all offer roughly the same packages. Until we’re able to show them we will leave them for lower pricing (and it’s got to be a BIG number of people), we’re powerless. I think once Google gets their Nexus phones on all 4 carriers simultaneously and sold through Google Play, things may change a bit…..Having Sprint and Verizon using CDMA may hurt this though, since the likelihood of CDMA phones being unlocked is slim to none.

    • Sporttster

      How bout this then…we contact our REPS and let THEM hear our gripes and maybe we’ll get regulation back. We can do this the nice way or the tough way….their choice. But consumers WILL have a voice in this! Fk this corporations…tired of their greed. It’s never enough….

  • AlexR69
  • The ONLY recourse we have is to launch a massive social media campaign against this BS. Someone with more creativity than me think up a hash tag to spam on G+, FB and Twitter! Bad news and unhappy customers scares investors.

  • I have a question. Does this mean that we will lose our unlimited data plan.?

  • Austin

    It’s all about greed, it’s sickening

  • MjSplicer

    Guess its AT&T then. @ least they’ve always been honest about raping ur wallet. Plus cdma tech is a bit dinosaurish

    • kevinc

      you do know GSM technology is significantly older, right?

  • Drootz

    With the amount of press on blogs and amount of pissed off and commenting people ready to jump ship, makes me wonder if there are enough of us to join together to do something about it…..they stopped the online fee…something to think about.

    Also there was a post the other day that a at&t exec said unlim data was a mistake so don’t think they won’t be trying to get rid of their unlim. data as well…..

  • 6ft jesus

    Kiss my $300.00 a month goodbye. No lol :-!

  • Keii Graham

    Sprint, it would be super cool of you guys and you would get a lot of internet points if you were to offer a 1:1 trade on the Galaxy Nexus for Verizon Galaxy Nexus owners if they switched to Sprint in light of this news. Super cool of you. Just sayin’.

  • Keii Graham

    If there were ever a time for Google to announce a secret cellular network they’ve been working on in secret, now would be the time.

    Anyone know if the Verizon Galaxy Nexus works on Sprint?

  • Radgatt

    The way I see it is that you won’t be able to keep an unlimited plan when you upgrade a phone. Therefore, the only way to keep an unlimited data plan would be to pay for a phone that you want off contract. They can’t do anything about the plan that way. If I understand it correctly.

  • lgb400

    What about my family plan…i have 4 g and unlimited everything…when my wife upgrades to 4g how does that work….we just share unlimited?

    • FknTwizted

      Chances are the system will force you to a tier even if you buy a off contract phone.

      • I’d like to see it when going from a 4G phone to 4G phone just by moving the SIM. 🙂

        • FknTwizted

          I hope that is true but, unfortunately I have seen it time and time in the industry(I work for a indirect agent for over a decade) vzw has a way to mess with this.

  • Medications

    I’m on the 4GB/month for $30 plan (the double data offer), which is more then enough, but i can’t imagine being on the 2GB plan. I never stream anything, and do basic browsing, email, games and navigation with 4G turned OFF always to save battery on the GNex. So this basic usage on 3G per month is usually around 2.5-2.8Gigs. No wifi at work but wifi at home. I’m a light user and i use just over 2Gigs per month, if not for the double data offer I’d be screwed. My bill is $104/month.

    Point is, the 2GB plan is BS even for light users, unless you are able to be on wifi for the majority of the time, which a lot of people are not. Especially if you are using 4G. Depending on how things are when I’m due for an upgrade in 13 months i could see just abandoning data phones all together since they apparently just cant figure it out.

  • Steve S

    T mobile ot spring…where to go?

    • Android1997

      Sprint, but if you get an LTE device, your stuck on 3G until 4G LTE comes to your area

  • Joel

    I’ll be switching my MEID to an old verizon phone and ditching my data plan all together.

  • AlexKCMO

    This is scary as hell, but will we have a warning? My wife’s contract is up, and I’m wondering if I need to upgrade her now or can wait. She’s on a 3G Fascinate. One of my friends thinks I should walk to the store right now and do this, I’m thinking we’ll have warning.

    Thoughts?

  • Chris
    • Chronon7364

      Gonna do it. Even if it doesn’t change a thing, I’m all for it.

    • dwaynaz

      Pathetic.

  • mikewelch5

    Question. Would now be a good time for Google or Apple to be their “own” carrier? Think they could off unlimited data and be a competitor?

    • mikewelch5

      Offer unlimited data I meant to say.

    • Radgatt

      If anyone that would be willing to do so it would be Google. Although, I highly doubt it happening. Apple, hell no. They make enough money off the iPhone anyway. They are in the perfect position with people wanting that phone so bad.

  • As many people stated in their comments, switching carrier isn’t always possible — if all other carriers’ coverages suck in your area, you will have no choice but to stick w/ the current one, no matter how much you don’t like it. At the end of the day, without good coverage, phone selections & prices mean nothing.

  • I guess it’s time to go with a dumb phone, and switch to a pre-paid service. I can’t stand corporate America.

  • Guest

    Try 1 month like this:

    Watch HD videos at home… not on your 3″-4″ cellphone screen.
    Use free wi-fi for all your heavy data use. (It’s available everywhere these days.)

    (Your data use will drop down to far under the 2GB plan.)

    • Trey Motes

      Or, don’t pretend to be at home 24/7 and live in the real adult world where mobile data is necessarily. There isn’t always a wifi router within 50′ of you…

    • skant153

      i use google nav quite often, how am i suppose to use wifi for that?

      • JDHokie

        I can’t even imagine how much driving you’d have to do to use 1 GB of data in Maps/Navi.

    • JDHokie

      If you use WiFi for the majority of your streaming, and are an average user when on 4G (basic e-mail, web surfing, apps), you won’t come close to the 4GB cap. Unlimited it a nice option to have, but for the majority of VZW users, this change won’t impact them.
      Of course, the majority of VZW users and the people who read Droid-Life aren’t necessarily the same group of people.

      • AlexKCMO

        Please…
        I travel for work and I can tell you; hotel wireless SUCKS. Rarely have I ever been in a hotel where hotel WiFi was anywhere near as fast as my phone on 3G, let alone 4G.

        4G LTE is faster than most peoples home connections. Some of us actually use our data.

    • FknTwizted

      Lol 4gb and I use a tablet via wifi 25gb and I don’t use it as a tethering setup… I just watch hulu, netflix etc. If I don’t use my wifi I would be totally screwed!

  • aalf

    what if u never upgrade your phone will they still kick u off?

  • moosc

    Every carrier is throttling your data even sprint I need a 30gb plan to b happy

  • I may simply go back to a regular dumb phone and just use my DInc on WiFi and they can kiss my data plan contract goodbye.

  • real4life

    So, as far as I’m concerned this is a breach of contract on Verizon’s part. Meaning…I’m gone! Let’s see….operating systems don’t get updated such as my Galaxy Nexus which was supposed to be better than sliced bread, battery life sucks on the phone so VZW wants me to use 4G which sucks the battery life…yeah right. I get better service using 3G and wireless. Customer service is fair at best, I know I have received different answers to different questions on the same subject…..Ya know…I’m not losing much the way I see it. Sad though….been with them for a long time. So much for loyalty from a company that many of us have paid a lot of money to.

  • Guest

    Wow… getting far, far more data than I could ever use… and at a fair price? Don’t you just hate that!

    Besides… I have extremely high speed wi-fi at work and home and 1000s of other locations. I simple connect to that… for my bandwidth hogging apps.

    • FknTwizted

      OK verizon’s CFO Fran Shammo. No go back to screwing us so you can buy your next house or something.

  • LoyalCustumer

    Please Start a Petition to stop them!

  • tek1231

    I really don’t want to leave VZW because their coverage has been great for me so I guess rather than “upgrading”, I’ll be buying my phones at full retail moving forward so that I can keep my unlimited data plan. For my usage, it would be worth it to pay the extra up front for a new phone.

  • Where are all the app makers and content providers in this? Seems vzw is completely pulling the rug out from under them – arent they pissed too?

  • joder

    Start writing your local congressmen and women – no one likes more regulation but that is just what might have to happen.

  • pwr1094

    Time to get rid of my smart phone. I have a computer at work and home this will have to do. I refuse to pay Verizon any more for a phone.

    • Trooper

      Yeah that is what I will end up doing at some point myself. VZW just charges way too much as it is. Now when this drops, I will be done. Dumb phone here I come. Lol.

  • This gives me shivers and I peed a little.

  • frankandsimple

    I’ll be looking at either T-Mobile or prepaid. This will probably serve a much needed kick to our butts and force us to re-think the NEED of smartphones in our lives. Is it really worth shelling out more than 100 bucks a month for a device when you have internet at home and at work anyway?

    When Customers show Austerity, Corporations will clamor for our business.
    When Customers act like spoiled children, changing phones every 3 months, corporations will loot us in broad daylight.

    • Nelson Munz

      T-Mobile has the best pre-paid options right now. They have decent coverage on a relatively fast network, unlike Sprints (Virgin Mobile & Boost) or smaller pre-paids like MetroPCS.
      That being said, if T-Mobile turns around their business and obtains a large increase of subscribers, they will probably start acting like Verizon and AT&T and gouge customers.

  • ceejw

    Well looks like I’m buying a Nexus off the playstore and switching to T-mobile once this gets applied to my plan.

    • bakdroid

      Only if the T-Mo girl delivers it and I can ride her……..I mean ride with her….. 😀

    • RedPandaAlex

      that’s what i did a couple weeks ago. Liking it so far, but admittedly, I’ve just been in the city since then and can’t attest much to t-mobile’s network. But it should be cheaper in the long run too. It’s no LTE, but 8mps on HSPA+ is about the speed of my home wifi, so not really complaining.

  • hahahahahahah

    now where are all the people who say

    OBAMA IS A SOCIALIST CAPITALISM RULEZ !!!1!!!

    this is pure capitalism, now how do you feel? do you want regulation? it is not a free market in this case. your laissez-faire market is FAILING.

    VZW made $28.2 MILLION last quarter and you, the lonely middle class tech nerd is losing this game.

    • bakdroid

      Sad and BS!….but so true.

    • And you are? Lonely high-class tech nerd? Go fly a model airplane into a Verizon Store.

    • RobMorris

      But the good thing is, if enough people realize that this is bullshit and no ones buying it. Then verizon will be forced to go back to unlimited due to their screw up

      • Trey Motes

        Yep, that’s how capitalism works. Push and pull, supply and demand.

    • Trey Motes

      Yes it is capitalism. You think this is proof that capitalism is evil? Piss off. It’s simply a company trying to make money in a dumb way.

      I will be leaving them if this ends up affecting me. Why? Because I have the freedom to CHOOSE who I want to pay for cell service. You like socialism? How about ONE carrier, because that’s what socialized cell service would be. Capitalism allows and BREEDS choice.

      And btw, great job turning a crappy VZW moment into some stupid Occupy Wallstreet sounding crap. Bravo genius.

      • OhAaron

        Oh yeah, because there is only one cell provider in Europe, where prices are totally regulated..

        • Trey Motes

          Who said Europe has socialized cell service? Do you even know what socialized means? In this context, it means government subsidized… I don’t know of the European country that has a single cell service for everyone by their government… I was basing my comment off of a marxist model…

          Nice try at being sarcastic though.

          • quiklives

            Marxism isn’t socialism, and vice versa. Nor is Pres. Obama a socialist. I know the GOP seems to misunderstand this, but that doesn’t mean everyone has to. The definitions are pretty clear and widely available.

          • Trey Motes

            Ugh… socialism is based on marxism, in fact, here ya go, read away:
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism_(Marxism)

    • Bezpredel

      So VZ has over 90M wireless subscribers, and you are bitching that they make about 1 dollar a year on each one of them??? I suspect this is highly inaccurate, but if it was it would be an example of how badly they are managed, not how well capitalism works for them.

      • Trey Motes

        Apparently this clown thinks the world would be better off if BIG government controlled BIG business… it always makes me laugh. These people somehow think the government is angelic while business owners and CEO’s are evil…

        • PinkoCommie

          @Trey, and you, clown, use the term “Big” government very conveniently as a crutch for your piss poor and mimicked arguments for your position. Did you know that Verizon ALONE was subsidized by “Big government” in tax breaks to the tune of
          $12.3 Billion dollars over the last three years alone? God Damn “Big Government” at it again walloping business. 🙁

          • Trey Motes

            I’m sorry, how is a tax break government control you idiot? Tax breaks are GOOD for business… I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make here, but you look like a fool right now.

      • Dave Maillet
    • Actually, I believe it would be called an oligopoly.

    • Charlie

      hahahahahahaa is right! You are a dumb ass. Go occupy some other place for other reasons that you also do not understand.

    • kevinc

      $28.2 million is not very much on the grand scheme of things for a very large company. i’m surprised it wasn’t in the hundreds of millions.

      oh, and it’s their right to do what they want to make as much money as possible. the beauty of capitalism is that it breeds competition, another carrier will take advantage of verizon’s move.

    • Dave Maillet

      Um…it’s BILLION. $28.2 BILLION in a quarter. They are NOT hurting for money.
      http://www.twice.com/article/483349-Verizon_Wireless_Profits_Rise_Subsidy_Reductions_Seen.php

  • jjrudey

    I’d give up LTE for unlimited data.

    • FortitudineVincimus

      This change and the $30 new fee are reasons alone for me to just stick to my OD Droid 3G until it dies and be like F*** it.

  • shdowman

    What you fail to mention, that Verizon FULLY realizes, is that the masses will not know any better at all. Who is really going to jump ship? Several hundred, maybe a thousand +?

    It is us who are the smarter for it and VZW is not scared of us in any way.

  • skant153

    i almost feel like ditching the phone/messaging part and getting a data plan and using google voice. perhaps google should look into google voice mobile over their own 4g

    • MyStroPro

      The only issue is you can’t use Google Voice for calling on Verizon. It’s blocked from everything I’ve read. You may be able to with Skype, but again, you’ll be paying a fee to two separate providers.

      • Trey Motes

        It’s not blocked. I’ve done it. You simply have to set up a SIP service to forward the calls to your GV number. VZW can’t stop you from doing that.

        • MyStroPro

          You’re just call forwarding though aren’t you? You’re not calling through Google Voice and you are still using minutes.

          For clarification, I’m not talking about the voice mail feature of Google Voice. I’m talking about using it as straight VoIP provider so you only require a data connection.

          • Trey Motes

            Yes I’m using pure data. A sip service acts as the phone line (you need a separate app for this depending on Android version) when someone calls the GV number, it forwards to the SIP number. Sip service calls the app. Boom data only call.

  • I say we cut this cord too…I’ve gone back to the antenna for my TV and now it looks like I’ll be moving back to a mobile phoneless world. Long live the beepers!!

  • Larizard

    So I have an OG Droid + Unlimited 3G with Verizon, due for an upgrade last year, December 2011. Does this mean it’s time for me to upgrade to a Galaxy Nexus? If I sign another 2-yr contract tomorrow, will I be locked in for another 2 years of unlimited data? Or is there something in there that says they can force us to switch to shared-tier plans even if my new contract is not yet up?

    • T4rd

      If you upgrade and sign a new contract right now, then you’ll keep unlimited data for the next two years until your contract expires. Even if they decide to pull your unlimited data in the middle of your contract, then that will allow you to leave Verizon ETF-free and sell your phone toward your next phone on another carrier.

    • FknTwizted

      While on contract no… anything after that is fair game.

  • Charles Rogers

    Go ahead, put me on your tiered data. I’ll just switch to a Prepaid phone, and use your towers anyway.

  • user311

    wtb google subsidized unlimited data plan… idc if they monitor my unsecured traffic…

  • LoyalCustumer

    Verizon is not being the same as before, the future will be better? or frightening for pockets?

  • SecurityNick
  • RedPandaAlex

    Yet another reason to go with unlocked phones. Carriers should be big dumb pipes. And they should live in constant fear of us switching to the next pipe over next month if their pipe is a little better or a little cheaper.

  • We need a not-for-profit provider that simply puts all their money into quality service and offers more affordability then where all the current companies are headed.

    • This. (Cue the right-wingers crying “socialism”.)

      • GolfOx

        I know how you can get a free phone and 250 minutes a month…..

  • fanTom007

    Unlimited Data = Happy Customer ’nuff said.

  • summit1986

    Jesus, between this and Error 37, this week has been total crap.

    • Not to mention Apple causing HTC One X shipments to cease because of some trivial patent from 1996 that everyone and their mother has infringed upon. Not a great legal precedent.

  • I don’t believe for a second that other carriers will follow their lead. Cell service prices have gone DOWN over time. Perhaps slowly, but still down. The author sounds like a Verizon apologist with comments like that.

    They’re making a killing off of the prices they charge for cell data usage. It’s not like the average smartphone user sits there consuming a constant stream of data like they would on their home Internet connection. Hell, I’m stuck using a 2GB data plan because if I switch to the 200 MB, it’s too easy to go over and pay more. On average I don’t even use 1/4th of my allotment. Even though it’s T-Mobile, and therefore cheaper than most, I’m paying $20 for 500 MB of usage in a month. Compare that to $47.95 for my home Internet, which I get about 150 GB out of.

    They look at us and see dollar signs. I wish more people would wake up and support the “little guy” carriers.

    • David Hollinger

      Are you on 3G or LTE, though. At speeds of 15-26Mbps – you could easily go over 2GB in a month just doing normal things online as most apps adjust based on bandwidth, NOT on if you’re using WiFi or LTE

      • HSPA+. I get a consistent 8 mbps and a very low ping. Not LTE-level, but certainly not slow.

        I know I could easily go above 2GB. My argument is most people aren’t data intensive users.

        My point though, was that there was no other option for my particular usage. It’s somewhere in between the lowest and mid-tier plans. The 2GB gives “unlimited” (throttled) and the low doesn’t. So, $20 period, or $10 plus another $10 if I go over.

        I guess I shouldn’t complain though, compared to Verizon and AT&T’s prices.

        Also: Why the hell are we locked into data plans? That’s total B.S… I’d just as soon go without and stick to Wifi when I’m around it.

    • Guest

      Have you seen some of the coverage maps for “the little guys”? What good are they if they rare cover the city I’m in?

      • I’m considering T-Mobile a little guy, and their coverage map is pretty darn good.

  • rcpa

    Sure, as you see the value of 4g and start to connect more devices, you will want to use more data and will be forced to upgrade your data plan. However, today as you connect more devices you are forced to pay $30 a month for each device even if you use the device a couple of times a month. If you have 10 connected devices, wouldn’t you want to pay for the bandwidth you use rather than $30 dollars per device?

    • As long as they allow hotspots and tablet to be added since a 4G hotspot is $50 a month. Now that it is summer i barely use it but i keep it on a contract because I use it to swap other devices around hehe.

    • GolfOx

      I agree, Pay for what you get. I pay$30 for two phones and we use 3 gigs a month together. I hope I’ll save a few bucks. I have no problem with folks who use 50-100 gigs a month paying for them. They are the same ones who are tethering without paying for a plan. Gosh I guess thet will pay on a shared data plan…….

  • So wait, I didn’t read all comments to see if anyone already said this, but….how is that different than buying a new plan for each device? It’s not that scary. Verizon will try to screw us no doubt, but I don’t think it’ll going to hurt. I like the idea of one plan with many devices.

  • sway

    This would be the best time for sprint to not hop aboard this and take all customers that want unlimited data, not saying they wont but if they were smart they should keep what they have…just make their 3g better and adopt 4g. The people will come.

  • JCS

    I sure hope I can skirt the issue by continuing to buy phones on ebay or away from VZ.

  • MIke

    End of Unlimited data? Goodbye Verizon! with that and paying even more for NFL mobile good riddence.

  • frozen-one

    And they ask why there are so many hackers?

  • Snow02

    Simple, don’t renew your contract. That may mean buying phones six months out to avoid paying $600 for a new one, but it’s worth it. If you use a lot of data anyways. I’ve found I average around 5-6 GB/month, and I’ll be damned if I’m paying more than $30/month for data on a phone. The value proposition just isn’t there.

    • bakdroid

      It is not that simple. You won’t have unlimited data without contract. That is the only thing protecting people right now. If you are off contract, you will be automactically put on a data teir whether you like it or not. The only solution is to not have any data and go back to flip phones. Otherwise, bend over and get use to it.

      • AE35

        He’s right. Did you think getting around this was really that simple?

    • RoadsterHD1

      I agree, I use 20 to 30Gb a month and will not pay more. I’ll never upgrade or change my plan in any way. I’ll just, like you said, buy a phone from eBay or something and have the number switched. No fuss no muss.

  • I’m thinking of simply dropping my plan altogether – buying phones off Ebay and using something like GrooVe IP. Republicwireless is also starting to look good.

    Keep pushing carriers. We’ll push back – and there’s a lot more of us…

  • ScottyfromGA

    just wait for the ones thats gonna have a huge class action lawsuit against them for this….hopefully a petition OR suit is already in the works. This is total bullsh!t!

  • Destroythanet

    Which is the lesser of two evils: ATT’s throttling of unlimited data users or Verizon’s plan to move unlimited users to tiered plans?

    • T4rd

      They’re both just as bad and enough reason for you to move to another carrier.

      • skant153

        where would you go? att has tiered, sprint has a lower and unreliable network, t-mobile isn’t LTE

        • Charles Rogers

          HSPA is probably good enough.

        • T4rd

          Depends on your area. Sprint is good where I’m at since I’m not in a Verizon 4G area anyways. No one here has issues with them. T-Mobiles 42 Mb/s HSPA+ is just as good as LTE in some markets too. I’ve seen people get over 20 Mb/s on it consistently. I would rather have that and be throttled past a certain point than be charged per GB over my cap.

  • ScottyfromGA

    Guys, face it….these providers now have the mentality that they can do as they please. Unlimited Data should be OUR choice, not what you are gonna be forced to go to. If I’m paying you 80 bucks a month EACH for 2 phones, you have ZERO friggin right to tell me that I will have to go to any type of plan. I do have the right to tell you that YOU (VZW) can suck my balls cause I’m not losing my data and not gonna have to “choose” when I wanna use my phone to do anything….

    stuff like this pisses me off to the point to where I’m gonna go back to being without a phone…lived 19 years without one, can go another 75 without it. THEY need to realize this.

    • jcuvs

      Ugh, why is my $108/month phone bill for ONE phone not enough? Unlimited data was the only thing I had going for me.

  • waiting for the petition to get to me, cause i’m signing it.

  • Im a bit confused…this sounds like it affects shared data plans and/or unlimited 3G only plans. What if you have neither?

    • Sven Enterlein

      They’ll get you next time 😉

  • summit1986

    Forget petitions… I’m fed up with playing the politically correct game. It’s time for some good old-fashioned molotov cocktails. Nothin’ says lovin’ like a good old riot.

    • summit1986

      Stop voting my comment down Shammo, you’re not welcome here anymore.

    • LiterofCola

      Way to incite criminal activity, jackass

      • kevinc

        LOL, no one is going to start rioting based on a comment on the internet. get over yourself, you’re the one that looks like a jackass

        • LiterofCola

          Naaaah, not really. You on the other hand however…..

  • Sven Enterlein

    This entire development is why I am very wary of all the cloud storage and online streaming apps. The more people use the services the more carriers can and will exploit this need and eventually dependence. For me this is a good reason to purchase a device that has either plenty of on-board storage or expandable storage.

    • Raven

      32GB MicroSD’s are getting pretty cheap and I would never buy a phone that didn’t accept one.

      • guest

        Stop storing massive TV shows and full HD movies on your *PHONE*.

        No matter how I pack data into my phone… I still am only using about 25% of the 8GB card.

        • theentropic

          I’ve got 17GB of music alone… how do you suppose I fit that onto your 8GB card?

          • Sorry, but that’s an idiotic response – I saw people saying the same thing to complain about the AT&T One X “only” having 16GB onboard.

            Maybe don’t carry 17GB of music all at once? That’s what, 2500 songs, conservatively? Which equates to approximately 6 DAYS of non-stop playback without repeating? Why do you need to carry that much music all at once? Maybe you could just swap 8 hours worth in at a time like any reasonable person would?

          • theentropic

            Sorry, but you missed the point entirely. To add to what I said based on your statement – what if my circumstances don’t let me “swap 8 hours worth at a time like any reasonable person would” on a semi-regular basis? What if I don’t WANT to spend the time doing it? What if I’m traveling, and WANT 6 days worth of music on my phone?

            The whole point is that what works for you… DOESN’T WORK for someone else. I’m glad YOU think 16GB on board is plenty; but other people don’t. For you to think of them as idiotic is your opinion, but you’re really just trying to force your views onto everyone else, and calling people names when you don’t like what they think.

          • joe moma

            buy a ipod

          • GolfOx

            Playlists, you will like them

      • Unless, of course, you bought a G-Nex…

  • thecharrr

    Or I can get Straight Talk for $45/month with unlimited everything

    • T4rd

      Only going up to 100 signatures?

    • Havoc70

      Signed!

  • So basically they’re looking for ways to get more money out of us. I’m only hoping T-Mobile continues to stay sane with their plans and prices.

  • T4rd

    If they force me from Unlimited to a tiered plan, they better at least offer me the highest tier plan available from unlimited for the same price. Else I’ll definitely have no problem going with T-Mobile pay as you go with unlimited everything, even it it includes being throttled past a certain point.

    Verizon is already making money off us by the boatload. I think this is the point where we vote with our wallets.

  • FortitudineVincimus

    And some of you wonder why I am such a skeptic and negative guy in my posts.. because the whole corporate world is a big work out to screw the average guy over and make you think they are helping you all while knowing they are bending you over and trying to make you feel ok about it.

    • Do yourself a favor and never find the need to defend your cynicism. I’m right there with you.

    • Guest

      I hate it when companies try to make money. I want everything… and for free.

      If I owned a big company… I would only charge $1 for totally unlimited data!
      I wouldn’t want my company to earn me (and all the investors) millions of dollars in profit! That would be awful!

      • CorporateAnarchy

        It’s people like you “guest,” sucking corporate schlong, that teaches corporations they can do whatever the hell they want (even as government subsidies and corporate monopolies force consumers into having fewer options for services).

        When we stop subsidizing Corporate America then I’d say we’d have less right to bitch and moan. Until then… I say hit the bastards anyway we can.

        Power to the people!

    • James

      Did you fail to realize that you hold all the power in that scenario?

      • Trevor

        It would be nice to think we have the power here, but if all US carriers end up doing similar things, then we’re screwed no matter what. Unless you can find an alternative to owning a cell phone.

        • kevinc

          it’s called prepaid phones if you really need a cell phone. but no one really needs one.

      • A “power bottom” if you will

  • David

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    • Sprint? Only if you want to continue being unhappy.

    • I’m all for ditching big red, but sprint sucks balls. Seriously. People are going to flood to sprint and their network is going to get absolutely destroyed.

      • Iny

        I second this. Unlimited data is only good if the network can support it. I left Sprint because their 3G network was close to unusable in my area, especially after they nabbed the iPhone. Their network just can’t support a large user base. With wimax barely working where it is available, and no LTE markets up yet, EVERYONE is on their 3G.

        • kazelement

          yeah as 3G it sucks. but when they light up LTE im sure they’ll get a lot better. well until they crash like VZW did.

          • They’d probably crash the same day they released it. Seriously Sprint doesn’t have the infrastructure for this. They can’t even handle the customer traffic they already have.

          • kazelement

            its true i sprint, it was completely unusable on 3G like 80% of the time and i live near chicago so major network here and nah it sucks! luckily i got a corporate VZW gnex, there for im quite sure my unlimited will be left alone.

      • bakdroid

        This

      • JDHokie

        And then Sprint is going to cut their unlimited data package one day. The grass might be greener temporarily, but soon it will be trampled brown.

        • This. People are nuts if they think Sprint will keep their unlimited data plans. Aren’t they losing a ton of money because of shacking up with Apple? They gotta recoup that cost somehow.

          • Christopher Riner

            Exactly. Verizon’s big and strong enough to put this plan into action, and T-mobile will be the only one to hold out, just so that they can hold on– and even that won’t last forever.

            Fact of the matter is, its just the next time that Verizon is planning to make us bend over and grab our ankles. And they ain’t planning no reach around.

        • angermeans

          How is it greener when sprint doesn’t even have LTE and won’t for years (at least one of decent size)? Not to mention since getting the iPhone sprint has struggled even getting half a mega bit down and much less up. You can have unlimited data bu I it is slow why would you want it. Don’t worry as sprint is only a few months off of ditching their nlimited as well and I bet it hits bout the time they get their first couple LTE markets launched

          • Fattie McDoogles

            You’re definitely right they are going to get rid of it. But it is and will be their biggest selling point for awhile. I see them getting rid of unlimited data on the other side of the iPhone becoming profitable. So 2015-2016 time frame.

      • I would even go to T-Mobile…yes they are tiered, but A LOT cheaper then Verizon. When they turn 4G on in the 1900mhz range, I am there

    • rals

      You don’t think Sprint will do the same? If they ever get their LTE network up and running, you bet they will do the same. That idiot Hesse is going to go that route, since he made a deal with the devil (Apple) on the iphone.

      • lgreg

        They all will be going this way by next year this time there will be no unlimited data and that sucks. They get you hooked on cloud this and that now the price goes up.

    • Clay S.

      i direct this at the iphone. the stigma of it using more data than anyone else, coupled with this data plan launching in summer makes it a perfect snag for people going to an LTE iphun.

    • bakdroid

      Sprint? No thanks, I want to actually use the phone I have and not be on 1x speed.

    • MotoRulz

      Dear Verizon Wireless

      Did you see what happened to Netflix when they tried to pull a fast one on their customers all in the name of streamlining service (company profits)? Hundreds of thousands of people cancelled and the stock fell in the toilet. Don’t think that your above that…

      Sincerely, former Netflix customer, possibly former Verizon customer

      • The magic of a two year contract.

        • jldleo

          I’m sure there are hundreds of thousands if not million(s) of customers who are out of contract that can excersise their option to cancel.

          • pantsman

            I’m one. Been waiting for a phone worth upgrading. Unlimited data was the only thing keeping me with VZW.

        • dodge4bbl

          I will be gone regardless of early termination fees!

        • you can opt out of the new contract when they change it, so if they change your plan before you contract is up, your free to walk if you dont agree to the new terms.

          • Fattie McDoogles

            No… you missed it. They are changing the data when you upgrade. Therefore you can not opt out. You either re-up or wait to be out of contract (if you aren’t at time of upgrade) and walk away.

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  • Greg Morgan

    I’m not sure if i’m scared in general about data plans. I’m scared of the fact that these cell providers can basically do what they want to their clients and have no repercussions. They’re not monitored like Banks are.

    • Butters619

      And once Verizon does it AT&T will follow suit. And there is nothing we can do about it besides go to Sprint. But you damn well know they’ll hop on this train too.

    • Yeah, Government regulation seemed to help a whole lot during the banking crisis. If anything it continues to hurt the financial industry.

      The last thing you want is the government sticking its head in here. Talk with your wallet. Go to a carrier that does have unlimited data if its important to you.

      • RedPandaAlex

        Which works, unless they’re colluding. Now I have no evidence that they are, but the trend is that their phone plans are converging rather than differentiating from each other.

        • Brian4Prez

          There is tons of government/corporate collusion. Look at the list of cabinet members for any White House or any Federal agency. All former CEO/CIOs, advisers, or lobbyists. Regardless of political party or what industry and what industry, they’re all in bed together.

      • Your mangled history is full of fail. Go actually read about how banking regulation has been conducted since 2000. K, thnx, bai.

      • Greg Morgan

        Banks were hardly regulated which is what led to the crisis. Now they’re very regulated, I know I work at one. But unfortunately in a few years, Unlimited data will be gone from every carrier.

  • epyon0

    Where is our protection from the gov’t when we need them. All carriers are going to do something like this. Its just sad consumers are pretty powerless to do anything about it. Really at the end of the day besides service & depending on where you live. What is separating these carriers as far customer benefits?

    • The problem is that government has fostered this oligopoly in wireless carriers. They finally drew a line in the sand with the AT&T T-Mo merger but its already too late.

      As soon as Verizon does it, AT&T will follow.

    • summit1986

      Corporations fund campaigns. No politician is dumb enough to bite the hand that feeds.

      • epyon0

        very true just wishful thinking on my part. The consumers are the end of the day have the loudest voice by leaving the company all together. But as long as Vzw has the phones they want. They can get away with this.

  • Whats the point in blazing fast 4G LTE when you can’t afford to use it to download a Google Play movie before you hop on a plane, or synch your google music tracks?

    Personally this will just make me use wifi more and more – it wont make me buy more data.

    • That’s what they want though. You still paying for data but not using the network. They win either way.

      • BrianWenger

        Oh my God the whole system is a scam!

        • Well yeah it is really but most businesses are run that way. Even most big “non profits” renaming their net gains as “cash reserves”

          • epyon0

            & your home ISPs are throttling you or capping you as well. So we are getting it from both ends.

          • Trust me, you’re getting it a lot more violently from your wireless company. Sure your home ISP limits and throttles but those limits are pretty high and, for what you pay your wireless carrier there’s no real comparison here. At home I get equal to 4g speed and 200Gb cap at $35 per month, show me that deal on wireless and I’m all over it.

          • epyon0

            Your’re lucky I only have 100Gb cap through my local ISP & they really have a screw you deal. Where you have to get a bundle to get that 100Gb cap. Wireless is trying to restrict high usage & have people use wifi more. I don’t ever really see caps climbing to reach what a home ISP would be.

          • NotRelevent

            Wow only 100 gigabits? That’s not much more than the highest data cap on a phone. Hope you don’t pay that much for it.

          • epyon0

            yea its pretty lame

          • Fattie McDoogles

            I’ll be signing up for that deal right behind you lol

          • Maybe its because I have 100Mbs down and 20Mbs up at home but why wouldn’t I want to use WiFi then. LTE is nowhere near the speed I get at home and how hard is it really to do a little downloading before you leave the house. Again I say though look at the plans everyone is up in arms without seeing any of the numbers.

          • You are pretty lucky then. My home internet (although it should be fast) is incredibly slow, and often goes out completely at night. Even on a 3G phone, I never connected it to my home wifi. It’s the same story with all of my friends as well.

          • Guest

            > My home internet is incredibly slow, and often goes out completely at night

            Then why do you still pay for it? Call your provider and tell them to fix it… or you are cancelling immediately. If you have a contract… that doesn’t mean you still have to pay for *NO* service at night.

          • Guest

            > My home internet is incredibly slow, and often goes out completely at night

            Then why do you still pay for it? Call your provider and tell them to fix it… or you are cancelling immediately. If you have a contract… that doesn’t mean you still have to pay for *NO* service at night.

          • Guest

            > My home internet is incredibly slow, and often goes out completely at night

            Then why do you still pay for it? Call your provider and tell them to fix it… or you are cancelling immediately. If you have a contract… that doesn’t mean you still have to pay for *NO* service at night.

          • Guest

            > My home internet is incredibly slow, and often goes out completely at night

            Then why do you still pay for it? Call your provider and tell them to fix it… or you are cancelling immediately. If you have a contract… that doesn’t mean you still have to pay for *NO* service at night.

          • Guest

            }}} My home internet is incredibly slow, and often goes out completely at night

            Then why do you still pay for it? Call your provider and tell them to fix it… or you are cancelling immediately. If you have a contract… that doesn’t mean you still have to pay for *NO* service at night.

          • Guest

            }}} My home internet is incredibly slow, and often goes out completely at night

            Then why do you still pay for it? Call your provider and tell them to fix it… or you are cancelling immediately. If you have a contract… that doesn’t mean you still have to pay for *NO* service at night.

          • Guest

            }}} My home internet is incredibly slow, and often goes out completely at night

            Then why do you still pay for it? Call your provider and tell them to fix it… or you are cancelling immediately. If you have a contract… that doesn’t mean you still have to pay for *NO* service at night.

          • Guest

            }}} My home internet is incredibly slow, and often goes out completely at night

            Then why do you still pay for it? Call your provider and tell them to fix it… or you are cancelling immediately. If you have a contract… that doesn’t mean you still have to pay for *NO* service at night.

          • Guest

            > My home internet is incredibly slow, and often goes out completely at night

            Then why do you still pay for it? Call your provider and tell them to
            fix it… or you are cancelling immediately. If you have a contract…
            that doesn’t mean you still have to pay for *NO* service at night.

          • Guest

            > My home internet is incredibly slow, and often goes out completely at night

            Then why do you still pay for it? Call your provider and tell them to
            fix it… or you are cancelling immediately. If you have a contract…
            that doesn’t mean you still have to pay for *NO* service at night.

          • Guest

            > My home internet is incredibly slow, and often goes out completely at night

            Then why do you still pay for it? Call your provider and tell them to
            fix it… or you are cancelling immediately. If you have a contract…
            that doesn’t mean you still have to pay for *NO* service at night.

          • Guest

            > My home internet is incredibly slow, and often goes out completely at night

            Then why do you still pay for it? Call your provider and tell them to
            fix it… or you are cancelling immediately. If you have a contract…
            that doesn’t mean you still have to pay for *NO* service at night.

          • Guest

            > My home internet is incredibly slow, and often goes out completely at night

            Then why do you still pay for it? Call your provider and tell them to
            fix it… or you are cancelling immediately. If you have a contract…
            that doesn’t mean you still have to pay for *NO* service at night.

          • Guest

            > My home internet is incredibly slow, and often goes out completely at night

            Then why do you still pay for it? Call your provider and tell them to
            fix it… or you are cancelling immediately. If you have a contract…
            that doesn’t mean you still have to pay for *NO* service at night.

          • Guest

            > My home internet is incredibly slow, and often goes out completely at night

            Then why do you still pay for it? Call your provider and tell them to
            fix it… or you are cancelling immediately. If you have a contract…
            that doesn’t mean you still have to pay for *NO* service at night.

          • Guest

            > My home internet is incredibly slow, and often goes out completely at night

            Then why do you still pay for it? Call your provider and tell them to
            fix it… or you are cancelling immediately. If you have a contract…
            that doesn’t mean you still have to pay for *NO* service at night.

          • Guest

            > My home internet is incredibly slow, and often goes out completely at night

            Then why do you still pay for it? Call your provider and tell them to
            fix it… or you are cancelling immediately. If you have a contract…
            that doesn’t mean you still have to pay for *NO* service at night.

          • Guest

            > My home internet is incredibly slow, and often goes out completely at night

            Then why do you still pay for it? Call your provider and tell them to
            fix it… or you are cancelling immediately. If you have a contract…
            that doesn’t mean you still have to pay for *NO* service at night.

          • Guest

            > My home internet is incredibly slow, and often goes out completely at night

            Then why do you still pay for it? Call your provider and tell them to
            fix it… or you are cancelling immediately. If you have a contract…
            that doesn’t mean you still have to pay for *NO* service at night.

          • CapnShiner

            duplicate

          • CapnShiner

            duplicate

          • CapnShiner

            Sounds like you either need to move or find a new ISP

      • siphyn

        And….thats when people go back to using simple phones and say F U Verizon. Seriously, thats the problem with this country. People need to start voting with their dollars. If you think I’m going to just pay for data and not use the network. You’re out of your mind. I love smartphones, but it isn’t a necessity. I’ll go back to using a simple phone.

        • FusionSaint

          But it is almost a necessity now… not for its usefulness or capabilities. But the fact that all of their simple phones are crap. My father bought a simple phone three months ago, and it won’t even hold a charge. Took it to Verizon, got another one, broke in a week. Took it back, got another simple phone and that one doesn’t charge either. Only half of the cellphone market is smartphones yet they have already completely abandoned quality on dumbphones. It was incredible. Of course he used an upgrade on it to get it for free so that was a waste as well. There just aren’t any good products on Verizon if you are looking for a dumbphone.

          • siphyn

            There are plenty of nice phones out there. Don’t limit yourself to just the Verizon store. Of course they will have crap phones there. They want you to buy a smart phone. Try shopping online.

      • capecodcarl

        Data should be optional then and billed per megabyte (1 cent per megabyte max which works out to $10/gigabyte). Don’t force me to have a $30 data plan if I’m going to get in the mindset of not using it and sticking on WiFi to avoid overage charges. Just because I want to own an Android smartphone because it is the best phone and PDA doesn’t mean I want to buy your data services. The FCC definitely needs to get involved to force them to stop automatically bundling it.

    • Art Holguin

      If your able to use wi-fi more and more why not just use it?

      • Charles Rogers

        VOIP phones?

        • I was thinking the same thing. It’s about time for this kind of phone to come to light. It’s time that we revolted and moved to a technology that they cannot exploit. They have become as bad as their landline counterparts back in the day.

    • Iny

      Even on an unlimited plan I was constantly on wifi, mainly to conserve battery life throughout the work day. On wifi 45+ hours a week, I barely reached 1gb of data used.

      • I am the same way, my sister who lives in the sticks and has no internet at home only uses 2.5GB a month as well out of 7 data enabled devices i use less than 6GB of data a month. If you are the kind of person that wants to download Diablo 3, all 15GB of it over LTE then you have issues. I said in a different reply i have 100Mbs down at home of course I am going to use WiFi, #firstworldproblems

        • I loathe people who still use their wireless plan while in a place with wifi, they’re the cause of this to begin with. As soon as I walk into my home or business my phone switches over, it’s pointless to use 3 or 4g if you’re in wifi range.

          • Chuckers

            I paid for it, I’ll do what I want.

          • MicroNix

            Thanks for being part of the problem.

          • tech247

            Damn disqus!

          • tech247

            Damn disqus!

          • tech247

            Then you must hate me. I have NEVER used WiFi on my Gnex. I pay $30 for unlimited data. I will use all the 3G/LTE data i want as per the term “unlimited”. That being said, i am yet to approach 3GB a month……

          • Droidzilla

            I’m in the same boat (but with a RAZR), and I routinely use over 5GB in a month. Guess I’m part of the problem. But, if that’s the case, why is not having unlimited data a problem if you’re telling everyone to use under 2GB a month? Aren’t you on Verizon’s side if you say that?

          • Christopher Hsu

            There are those of us that work in places where it is not recommended to browse certain sites on Wi-Fi provided by the employer.

          • siphyn

            Why do you loathe those people? I pay for the service. It’s advertised as Unlimited. Verizon makes millions in profits each year. You’re damn right I’m going to use the network as I please. Besides, not everyone has wifi that is faster than the LTE around them. I loathe the people like yourself that think it’s perfectly acceptable to be charged what you do for tiered data. If you want to use wifi, why not just buy an iPod touch, and be done with it. The wireless industry in this country is a mess, yet I shake my head at the people that continue to accept $100 cell phone plans with 2gb of data as just being perfectly ok.

          • LAmDroid

            Id have to agree w others in response to yours. we already pay an inflated price for the value of our wireless, Im actually stubborn enough to leave it on my wireless data when i browse and download on my phone because i frgan paid for it. and I STILL.. do NOT.. break 2GBs/mo even tho i have unlimited.

            I absolutely refuse to contribute to their numbers to have them believe that most ppl use less data by dumping the burden on my ISP and that it’s acceptable to charge 30$/mo for only 2GBs or even less.

            you need to realize that these tiered structures and data plan prices are designed around the usage habit of the majority and/or avg data use per user. If the reason why all tiered plans are capped at 1.5GB to 2GB is because that’s where the avg is, and 30$ is a tolerable amt for most ppl paying for it. Our usage habits are designing their pricing and structures, stop lowering our limits by being on Wifi all the time. If the avg user consumes 10GBs of dat/mo, I would bet good money that our caps would be 10GB and STILL be 30$/mo.

          • LAmDroid

            Id have to agree w others in response to yours. we already pay an inflated price for the value of our wireless, Im actually stubborn enough to leave it on my wireless data when i browse and download on my phone because i frgan paid for it. and I STILL.. do NOT.. break 2GBs/mo even tho i have unlimited.

            I absolutely refuse to contribute to their numbers to have them believe that most ppl use less data by dumping the burden on my ISP and that it’s acceptable to charge 30$/mo for only 2GBs or even less.

            you need to realize that these tiered structures and data plan prices are designed around the usage habit of the majority and/or avg data use per user. If the reason why all tiered plans are capped at 1.5GB to 2GB is because that’s where the avg is, and 30$ is a tolerable amt for most ppl paying for it. Our usage habits are designing their pricing and structures, stop lowering our limits by being on Wifi all the time. If the avg user consumes 10GBs of dat/mo, I would bet good money that our caps would be 10GB and STILL be 30$/mo.

          • LAmDroid

            Id have to agree w others in response to yours. we already pay an inflated price for the value of our wireless, Im actually stubborn enough to leave it on my wireless data when i browse and download on my phone because i frgan paid for it. and I STILL.. do NOT.. break 2GBs/mo even tho i have unlimited.

            I absolutely refuse to contribute to their numbers to have them believe that most ppl use less data by dumping the burden on my ISP and that it’s acceptable to charge 30$/mo for only 2GBs or even less.

            you need to realize that these tiered structures and data plan prices are designed around the usage habit of the majority and/or avg data use per user. If the reason why all tiered plans are capped at 1.5GB to 2GB is because that’s where the avg is, and 30$ is a tolerable amt for most ppl paying for it. Our usage habits are designing their pricing and structures, stop lowering our limits by being on Wifi all the time. If the avg user consumes 10GBs of dat/mo, I would bet good money that our caps would be 10GB and STILL be 30$/mo.

          • LAmDroid

            Id have to agree w others in response to yours. we already pay an inflated price for the value of our wireless, Im actually stubborn enough to leave it on my wireless data when i browse and download on my phone because i frgan paid for it. and I STILL.. do NOT.. break 2GBs/mo even tho i have unlimited.

            I absolutely refuse to contribute to their numbers to have them believe that most ppl use less data by dumping the burden on my ISP and that it’s acceptable to charge 30$/mo for only 2GBs or even less.

            you need to realize that these tiered structures and data plan prices are designed around the usage habit of the majority and/or avg data use per user. If the reason why all tiered plans are capped at 1.5GB to 2GB is because that’s where the avg is, and 30$ is a tolerable amt for most ppl paying for it. Our usage habits are designing their pricing and structures, stop lowering our limits by being on Wifi all the time. If the avg user consumes 10GBs of dat/mo, I would bet good money that our caps would be 10GB and STILL be 30$/mo.

          • LAmDroid

            Id have to agree w others in response to yours. we already pay an inflated price for the value of our wireless, Im actually stubborn enough to leave it on my wireless data when i browse and download on my phone because i frgan paid for it. and I STILL.. do NOT.. break 2GBs/mo even tho i have unlimited.

            I absolutely refuse to contribute to their numbers to have them believe that most ppl use less data by dumping the burden on my ISP and that it’s acceptable to charge 30$/mo for only 2GBs or even less.

            you need to realize that these tiered structures and data plan prices are designed around the usage habit of the majority and/or avg data use per user. If the reason why all tiered plans are capped at 1.5GB to 2GB is because that’s where the avg is, and 30$ is a tolerable amt for most ppl paying for it. Our usage habits are designing their pricing and structures, stop lowering our limits by being on Wifi all the time. If the avg user consumes 10GBs of dat/mo, I would bet good money that our caps would be 10GB and STILL be 30$/mo.

    • Raven

      Streaming from the “cloud” is a trap. You can fit a lot of music and movies onto a 32GB MicroSD card.

      • LAmDroid

        ..except theyre trying to rid removeable memory from handsets now

    • Bionic

      How big of a file is a google play movie? Ive never downloaded one.

      • mike

        i think about 1.5 to 2 gigs for a 1:30 to 2 hr movie, and way more if it is an HD movie.

        • Bionic

          That blows, best use wifi

  • Kyle

    I will do anything in my power to keep unlimited data. To my understanding, if I buy off contract that can allow me to keep unlimited data for now. Now my question is, if anyone in my family (I am on a family plan) upgrades and gets their contract upgraded, do I have to leave unlimited data?

    • Butters619

      Yup. I think that’s the plan. If you upgrade any part of your contract, you will be forced off unlimited. It’s really dirty.

      • sc0rch3d

        i have been trying for years to get text messaging removed from my unlimited bundle without losing the unlimited data, but no salesperson has been able to make it work.

        so i’m stuck paying 20-30 month for texting (maybe 10 SMS a month b/c i use Gvoice), MMS (0 in last 6 months) and other BS features i don’t use.

        • Droidzilla

          You can’t just remove it yourself online?

          • sc0rch3d

            it shows up as a bundle….not individual components. even the insurance was built into the bundle (which has migrated from my Omnia > Droid 1 > Droid 2 > GNex) of all my phones as i’ve upgraded smartphones over the years.

          • Droidzilla

            That sucks. I lost unlimited and found my way back onto it, though . . .

  • Butters619

    It’s only a matter of time before Sprint does this too. As soon as they get a big enough LTE footprint and pick up enough disgruntled Verizon customers, they’ll put in a data cap too.

    (I was going to say AT&T as well, but with that insane throttle it’s like they capped my data anyway)