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Google No Longer “Supports” the LTE/CDMA Verizon Galaxy Nexus? (Updated)

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Update:  So rather than make you read through this long drawn out mess, we decided to post a summary to get you up to speed since a number of folks are still coming to this specific post.

This afternoon, a reader of ours noticed that the Android Developer pages were updated to show that they no longer support CDMA devices. Without any word from Google on these changes, we started asking important questions and posted this story since that affects the LTE Galaxy Nexus, XOOM LTE and Nexus S 4G. Could this change the way updates are issued? What about factory images? What does it mean to no longer be “supported?” All questions that we feel we deserved answers to.

Once enough of a stir was caused, a statement was issued by an Android engineer. Basically where we stand now, is that according to Google’s standards for AOSP, CDMA devices cannot be officially “supported.” It’s an odd situation and one that even some of our readers who create their own AOSP ROMs are having a hard time wrapping their brains around.

Thankfully Google has assured us that the LTE Galaxy Nexus and all other “Nexus” devices will still receive timely updates, remain unlocked, etc.

You can read their full statement here.  

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Wow, so I’m not really sure where to start with this head-scratch-worthy news. Thanks to a reader, we have now realized that the LTE/CDMA version of the Galaxy Nexus that thousands of you purchased, may no longer be considered a “supported” developer device by Google. You will notice in the screenshot above that the device “toro” – which was the codename for the device – has been removed from the list of supported devices. There is also a note above that which reads “No CDMA devices are supported.” Not sure it could be any clearer than that.

Update:  As some have pointed out, the “crespo4g” has also been removed which is the Nexus S 4G with Sprint (another CDMA device).

Update 2:  “stingray” is also gone – that would be the LTE/CDMA Motorola XOOM.

But to make matters even more interesting, we dug a little deeper into a cached page from January 28 that clearly shows “toro” as still being a part of their plans. It also included special CDMA radio instructions for developers which have now been removed. Picture below.

And just in case you needed even more proof, here is the factory image site which says that the LTE Nexus builds are there for “reference only.” We also pulled the cached page of it from January 28 which of course, does not mention “reference only” anywhere:

Why would this happen and what exactly does it mean? Only the Android team, Google and Verizon (probably just those two since it’s all CDMA devices) know for sure.

Could it have anything to do with the Google Wallet situation? We know that the app was updated and made available to basically all Nexus devices within the last couple of days, but not the Verizon version. Maybe there was a breakdown in negotiations which took the phone out of their “Nexus” title requirements. Seems doubtful. Then what could it be?

I think one thing we all want to know is how this impacts updates in the future. One of the main reasons we purchased this phone was to be at the front of the line when it came to new OS deliveries. Will this impact that? Will we still see factory images after major releases? What else changes?

Would love some further explanation from not only devs, but maybe even the Android team on how this status impacts CDMA phones going forward. Why would CDMA not be supported at all? Because it’s a dying technology and its reach is limited? GSM is clearly a more global option.

Update 3:  As our friends at Phandroid have pointed out, this could be Google’s way of streamlining their “supported” devices. GSM is a more widely adopted option across the global, so limiting their official support to those phones probably makes more sense. This more than likely has nothing to do with updates or anything that should completely ruin your day.

Update 4:  Google has issued a statement. It definitely has to do with CDMA tech and its conflicts with AOSP code.

Hopefully we will have some answers soon. Try to stay calm, for now.

Links:  Developer Devices Page | Cached Version from January 28 | Factory Image Page

Cheers Adam!

  • bchayes

    Still waiting on those timely updates with my Galaxy Nexus CDMA, we are at 5 months since release with no Android update and lots of bugs. Great!

  • Droided Out

    My contract is up on the April 4th. Now what the heck am I supposed to buy? The Nexus S or Razor Maxx or move my service to Auto Throttle & Attitude and play their stupid games. AHHH!! I’m on my third refurbished Original Droid. Maybe if I win the lotto tomorrow I will just by one of each.

  • Anonymous

    This is why I never rush the purchase the “latest” gadget…as tempted as I was for this device. The longer I stay with Big Red the greater my disappoints. I do have excellent signal and coverage area but DANG they are making it tough for me to stick with them.

  • Anonymous

    I want a refund. Beyotches.

  • Ycare

    Simple..as built it is a giant liability and resource destruction device.So , eh we kinda messed up and you can deal with it we’re out of here let verizon have their POS phone..That’s what THEY wanted and that’s what YOU got !! Is sucks, it will always sucks. so get  rid of it..tell samsung, google and verizon all oat once NEVER AGAIN !! Why do we need all the hassles with android ?!?! What did it do other than take away our warranties, and take hours and hours and hours of time away from important issues !! Get rid of them already , it only took me less than a week to determine what crap they were..GET RID OF THEM …

  • Jim McClain

    they sure are taking their time with the updates for the nexus, wishing now I had a razor maxx

  • Justin

    How many Galaxy Nexus phones have been sold?

  • jgm

    This article might have endeavored to define “AOSP” for the readers.

  • steve

    serves all you damn nexus junkys right HAHAHAHAHA!!! (even you kellex)

  • Macguy63

    I have an HTC Thunderbolt that I love but was thinking about getting the Nexus. Maybe I’ll go for Razor Maxx now?

    • Anonymous

      If you want to wait longer for updates…

  • Anonymous

    Kellen, your 5th update better be “HAHA, just kidding. Have a good weekend!”

  • Anonymous

    Google should just say f*ck it and become their own carrier. Total BS if consumers to suffer support on this device because of Verizon. If that happens they should be able to return their Verizon GNEXs, cancel their contracts with no penalty, and take their business elsewhere.

    I don’t want to hear the Google Wallet excuse because Google new Verizon planned to block it from the get go. If that was the case, Google should have dropped support right there and then, that way us consumers could have dropped Verizon and grabbed a GSM GNEX when it hit another carrier. 

  • ILuvSoPA

    LOL!!!!!!

  • Daniel Rose

    You should have checked facts / asked Google first: 
    https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/android-contrib/phz3S5ZdveU

    • If we didn’t report on it and ask questions, there wouldn’t have been a Google response. That was released because we reported it.

      • Anonymous

        Some people don’t understand how that works. Keep up the good work

  • Anonymous

    Can anyone translate this into something I don’t need a lawyer to read? I’m an avid android enthusiast and I still have no idea what this is supposed to mean.
    https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/android-contrib/phz3S5ZdveU 

    EDIT: Kellex just posted a new post explaining this.

  • James DeLeon

    read this

     https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/android-contrib/phz3S5ZdveU

  • I could use some milk

  • I would second the not getting into Windows Phone its Unfonished has no app support and is slow as all hell

  • Justin

    How many Galaxy Nexus were sold?

  • LaughingAtYou

    I am so glad I bought the iPhone 4S instead of the GNex.  At least Apple supports their products.  I was a hardcore Android user for 2+ years, but this lack of vision and support from Google is the reason I switched.

    • Anonymous

      LOL…this phone will still be supported. And will still do more than the iPhone could dream of doing. owning an iPhone is like owning a Ferrari that you’re only allowed to drive around the block, and then only on Tuesdays and Thursdays. I’d rather have the Corvette that I can drive anywhere. 

      • LaughingAtYou

        I’m so glad you go immediately go on the attack without addressing my point. Google pulls support and you are happy?  I’m not bashing Android here, in fact, I love Android, but the fact is that Google has no vision here; they can’t do anything like Apple has done.  I know you’ll tell me how great your GNex is, but you made the assertion that it will do more than the iPhone and didn’t back it up.  The problem is, you’ll go on and on about specs and how it can be customized, but you’ll ignore what the competition is doing.  

        So tell me, what can you do with the GNex that the iPhone can’t?  Again, my message was explain my reason for switching – clear vision and support from the manufacturer is better than something that has a shelf life of what, not even 2 months?!  It’s funny that you compare the iPhone to a Ferrari – sounds like you are admitting that it’s a better device.  Enjoy the Corvette that doesn’t have a mechanic.  😉

        • Anonymous

          LOL! I dont even own a Galaxy Nexus. I own a Rezound. So it is irrelevant to me either way. But the Nexus, even “unsupported”, is far superior to the iPhone. It actually does more. 

          What can the galaxy nexus do that the iPhone cant? Lets see: Widgets, Live wallpaper, Alternative markets (and installing apps without a market at all), real multi-tasking, it will display Flash content, removable battery, a 720p display, and it has unrestricted media. Lets start with those. 

          (My Rezound does all of that too, and in addition has SD expansion of at least 64gigs)

          • LaughingAtYou

            Yes.  Yes I do.

            Widgets: missed them for the first week
            Live wallpaper:  Really?  This is a reason to select Android? Are you 12?
            Alternative markets: Have them with a jailbroken iPhone
            Real multitasking: cpu hog and battery killer
            Flash: doomed
            Removable battery: I do miss this, but only because my Droid X wouldn’t last all day.  I have an external battery case for my iPhone
            720p display: still not as good as the iPhone 4 IMHO.
            Unrestricted media: really?  I don’t see a need for this if I get everything that I want.

            Look, the bottom line is that we have preferences.  I still own a Xoom and I use it.  I also have an iPad.  Apple’s products are integrated.  I can push everything between my Mac, iPhone, iPad, Apple TV, etc. I had high hopes for Google, but they can’t execute.  I don’t have to buy an accessory (like a dock for my droid X) that can’t be used ever again or with any other phone.  I also know that my Ferrari will always have a mechanic, even if I drive it differently that you drive your Corvette.  If Android was as good as what I get with iOS and the integration that I get with other Apple products, I would never have changed.  So, each does something great.  It’s just that Apple’s products are better – for me.  No hard feelings.

          • Anonymous

            So your response to all the many things Android can do that iPhone cant is “well I dont use them anyway”? LOL! You talk about “preference” but Apple restricts your preference. The iPhone isnt better, it just happens to restrict the stuff that you personally dont care about. 

            Using your logic, my enV2 was superior to the iPhone. It made calls faster and more reliably. It never crashed on me even once and was far cheaper. (I guess if you never want to drive anywhere other than around your block on Tuesdays and Thursdays, the Ferrari is the better choice after all eh?)

          • LaughingAtYou

            You make absolutely no sense with your driving around the block comments, but you continue with your childish inferiority complex and your red herrings; I’m happy with my purchase.  If your point is you can do things that my phone can’t, you win. My point still remains that Android isn’t mature.  It has no clear direction.  It’s an operating system that any manufacturer can throw on their phones and they don’t have to support it.  I was hoping for the best from Android, but it failed (for me).  For you, it’s the greatest thing ever.  Based on all of your posts that you’ve written all over this story, I can see that you are a huge fan of Android and I wish you luck.  Bur, I know you’re still going to have to get the last word, so go!

          • Anonymous

            You make no sense with your childish “OMG the iPhone is so much better” comments. You havnt pointed out a sinlge thing the iPhone does that the Galaxy Nexus doesnt. 

          • LaughingAtYou

            HAHA.  go back to my first post. You’re so off topic, Jeffy.

    • Tim242

      You’re funny. The Nexus is very well supported. So how does it feel to be missing functionality such ad no browser downloads, and no way to manage files?

      • Anonymous

        Actually, there are tons of browsers in the App Store.  Atomic, Dolphin, Opera, etc.

        • Tim242

          That’s not what I meant. You cannot download files from browsers on iOS

          • LaughingAtYou

            Still not good a good enough of an argument for me to stay with Android.  It really came down to support and commitment.  It appears that only a development community will be supporting the GNex, which isn’t good enough for me.  It’s obviously fine for you, which is great, but I’m not bashing you.  

      • LaughingAtYou

        actually, I don’t miss it at all.  In fact, I prefer not to.  And this has nothing to do with my level of technical expertise, it’s just not something I need.

        • Tim242

          Hmmm then why are you browsing Android blogs?

          • LaughingAtYou

            Because I still own Android products and this is a great site.

          • Tim242

            But, iOS is so great…why still hold onto Android? Btw, the updates you brag about from apple only bring features that have been in Android. Them, the updates are half-assed. Look at iOS 5. Riddled with problems. Btw, did you see the report that iOS apps crash more often than Android apps?

          • LaughingAtYou

            Have you read the book “how to lie with statistics?”  I go off of my personal experience.  I run the same apps that I had on my Droid X.  They look better, run better, and don’t crash on my iPhone, and that’s all I really care about.  I couldn’t give a rat’s ass about some study that backs up something that hasn’t affected me or is irrelevant to me.  Meanwhile, my Droid X is sluggish, crashes constantly, has to be wiped and reset while my iPhone runs like a hot knife through butter.  

            Apple isn’t perfect, but let’s be honest, at least there is some vision here.  Half-assed updates are better than no updates. 😉

            Again, if there was clear direction from Google and the carriers, I would still be using Android.  But there’s a new phone out every other week and the carriers’ support sucks.  The current hot Android phone will be the flavor of the month, until next month’s phone.  And people will still be lining up to buy the iPhone.  

          • Tim242

            Again, those apple updates only include missing features, already found in Android. I’ve had several Android phones. Never had an issue with sluggishness. Saying something looks better on a smaller screen is silly. My Nexus screen outs your iPhone screen to shame. I work at att. I have to listen to iPhone issues all day long. You should check out their support forums. You say iPhones run buttery smooth, it has no UI. It lacks so much functionality, that it is only useful for gamers. My Nexus runs circles around the iPhone. I have tested it against a co-worker’s 4S. Your biggest flaw in logic, is comparing all Android phones to the Droid X.

          • LaughingAtYou

            No flaw in logic.  I specifically said that I based this off of my personal experience with my Droid X.  But since you brought it up, I shouldn’t have to buy a new phone to get rid of the sluggishness.  I don’t need a faster processor just to keep up with newer apps on the iPhone.  Android is flawed, plain and simple.  It needs more power to keep up with it’s inability to handle processes efficiently, and it’s well-documented. If Android was so great, it would be fluid, but it’s not.  Your answer is to buy another phone with a faster processor. Again, the bottom line is that Apple cares about the user experience and Google and the carriers don’t, and that was my main point.  You start in with problems that have nothing to do with my main reason for posting, which has made this fun.

            Anyway, I’m sorry you’re so insecure about your technology and can’t stand that someone has a negative opinion of Android.  You’re just confirming I made the best choice.  There’s a reason that the iPhone is the most popular phone on the planet.  Just sayin’

          • Tim242

            iPhone only sells in big numbers because it is the only phone with iOS. Android has many higj-end phones that split sales. My bf had the DX for over a year. It is not sluggish. Android handles processes very well. ICS is buttery smooth. So, if you shouldn’t have to buy a phone for a faster processor, explain the “upgrade” from iPhone 4 to the 4S. A dual core 800 MHz processor. That’s what the S in 3GS and 4S is for lol

          • LaughingAtYou

            but I didn’t upgrade.  In fact, they still sell the 3GS, which still runs the latest OS and can run the same apps. 

          • Anonymous

            Say whatever u want about your iPhone. U still don’t even have 4g. That’s been out for at least 2 yrs. Your phone is irrelevant, have fun with your herd of isheeple blindly buying the next apple gimmick.

          • LaughingAtYou

            Ok.  4G hasn’t beenout for 2 years, idiot.

          • solidworks

            ehh whatever, been out long enough and you still dont have it so your precious iphone is still…….irrelevant…..lol

          • LaughingAtYou

            You’re hilarious.  Tell that to the millions of others that buy it.  Then make an argument for why the GNex dropped it’s price 33%.  Why do they discount Android phones?  Because nobody wants to buy them!  They know that they’re overpriced.  The GNex will be $100 by the end of March. And they still won’t sell them. LOL

          • LaughingAtYou

            But, to get the new Android OS, you have to buy a new phone!  What a ripoff!

          • Tim242

            No you don’t. ICS updates are coming out very soon for current phones. BTW, there are 23 versions of iOS, 33 of Android. The 3GS cannot run all apps. No wifi hotspot, no siri…to name a few. You have to buy a new phone for siri…what a rip off. It’s,not even on the 4!

          • LaughingAtYou

            ok

          • Tim242

            OK is right. Make people buy a new phone for an App. That is what is ridiculous.

          • LaughingAtYou

            I’m still laughing at you idiots.  All you care about is specs.  I care about integration. You’re jealous, I get it.  Anyway, enjoy your fast phone and your LTE when it works.  I love trolling this site.  You’re as bad as the apple fanboys!  

          • Tim242

            Integration is important to you, you say? What does apple integrate? Android integrates Gmail, Maps, Navigation, Google Voice, YouTube, and more. As far as iPhone naming, numbering, let me break that down to you. There was no iPhone 2 or 3. The 2nd iPhone was named 3G, for the art 3G bands it added. The 3rd iPhone was the 3GS, for 3G data plus faster processor. The 4th iPhone was the iPhone 4, because it was the 4th iPhone….go figure. The 5th iPhone was the 4S, for faster processor. If they name the next version by version number, like they did the 4, it would be iPhone 6, since it will be the 6th iPhone. There would be no reason to CA it the 5…it isn’t the 5th version, and it won’t have non-existent 5G. The only thing you’ve gotten right so far, is identifying yourself as a troll.

          • LaughingAtYou

            Yep, and it’s so much fun!  Enjoyed it very much!  Enjoy the weekend in, ahem, Little Rock!  HAHAHA!

          • Tim242

            Little Rock is awesome! You should come visit sometime. I’all take you to the gay club with me.

          • LaughingAtYou

            I’m not afraid of a gay club at all.  I’m not gay, but gay people are fun!  Honestly, Tim, it’s been fun.  Have a good weekend.

          • Tim242

            Haha you too! : )

          • LaughingAtYou

            but I don’town the 4.  Whocares?!  

          • LaughingAtYou

            However you want to paint the picture, Apple supports its users and its products.  When your GNex is on eBay in 3 months because you realize it needs a faster processor or that you want a better camera, or finally find out that it’s not the latest and greatest, I’ll still be using my iPhone happily.

          • Tim242

            My gnex has a dual core 1.2 MHz processor. If you had the 4S, you’d only have 800 MHz dual core. My phone will not be on eBay. I bought a phone that fits my needs. I am guessing you don’t even have a 4S, since you just say “iPhone.” You’re stuck on the 4 for another year haha. You’re not even using dual core. STFU boy

          • LaughingAtYou

            actually, I do have the 4S.  Sorry.  Oh, and congrats on your penis enlargement!!

          • Tim242

            Even if you really do have the 4S, you’re at 800 MHz, I’m at 1.2 GHz. The Nexus outperforms the 4S in every way. Every review shows this. Not to mention, you don’t have LTE. When the iPhone 6 comes out later this year with LTE, you’ll only be a year into contract. Poor you.

          • LaughingAtYou

            Ok, Timmy, it’s beenfun playing with you. I’m glad you have the phone with the best specs.  I’m glad you feel superior.  I have two lines, so I upgrade everyyear.And,my iPhone will be worth much morethan that piece of plastic you bought.  HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!  DB

          • Tim242

            This piece of plastic survives drops, without a case. Your piece of glass does not. People call in every day demanding we replace their broken iPhones. What a bunch of idiots.

          • LaughingAtYou

            You’re just proving my point- I don’t HAVE to upgrade from my 4S, but I will when the 5 comes out.  Why?  Because I want to, not because I have to. 

          • Tim242

            There won’t be a five. The 4S was the 5th version.

          • LaughingAtYou

            using your logic, therewouldn’t have beena 4.  3, 3GS,4, 4S…whatcomes next,Einstein?  

          • LaughingAtYou

            You’re under contract for two years with a phone that won’t be supported.  Good luck with that!  HAHA!!  And, when you try to sell it, you’ll be stuck with something nobody wants and all of the accessories that you bought for it.  Meanwhile, people will pay top dollar for my iPhone 4s when the next one comes out and Apple STILL sells the iPhone 3GS.  Facts is facts, dude!  

            This has been fun.  

          • Tim242

            My phone will get updates str8 from Google for years to come. Here’s the proof. http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/2/3/2769480/verizon-galaxy-nexus-removed-from-googles-developer-support-pages
            The 3GS is not still sold, it is given away for free. That is why att “sold” so many more iPhones than Verizon. Verizon doesn’t have the FreeGS.

          • LaughingAtYou

            It’s free, but people still want it over an Android phone with better specs.  What does that say?

          • LaughingAtYou

            getting you riled up is fun, Timmy.

      • LaughingAtYou

        How do you feel about being abandoned?  At least Apple doesn’t abandon their users the way the carriers do when a new phone comes out.  I got sick of seeing the way carriers treat Android users when there are so many phones to support – they’re all about selling phones, not supporting the users.  Complete opposite of Apple.  

    • Apple supports their products. My favorite part was the e-mail response that Jobs sent out regarding antenna gate. “hold it with the other hand”

      • Anonymous

        LOL! Problem solved. 

      • Anonymous

        I dont think Apple is EVER gonna escape that one…. That will forever be a part of Apple lore…

        …you’re holding it wrong….lol.

    • Anonymous

      oh look another apple troll

  • Official update from Dan Morrill on the issue: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/android-contrib/phz3S5ZdveU

  • Jordan

    Man that sucks for us RAZR guys too right?

    • shdowman

      No, it sucked for you before this…

  • If this is true, I am done with Google, Verizon, and Samsung forever.  I have wanted to try Windows phone…this gives me reason.  And my incoming tax return will make it very easy to drop my Verizon contract like a bad habit…

  • rocketdaddy

    Not Calm

  • Anonymous

    Can’t be about Google Wallet….Nexus S 4G…..

  • shdowman

    KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Anonymous

      lol!!! I just looked at the recent Star Trek with the younger versions.

  • Fu

    Dear Google/Verizon: You Suck ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐

  • Going to the pitchfork store now then making a stop at the torch store on the way home. If anyone needs anything let me know. 

    • Anonymous

      Please pick up some tar, some feathers, and a rusty hacksaw too. Thanks!

    • Anonymous

      also a few brown paper bags and a couple of dogs please! thanks in advance

  • Anonymous

    #OCCUPYVZW – Verizon has the opposite of the ‘Midas Touch’; where is the http://www.BoycottVerizon.com website already! *sigh*

  • Anonymous

    I’m sorry, but update 3 makes no sense to me.  How is it okay to “drop support” for a phone simply to streamline the amount of said supported devices?  Wouldn’t it make more sense to drop support for older phones, as they are most likely unable to run the newest software?

    • They dropped developer support.  Which means they will no longer publish the source code and flash files for the LTE version of the phone anymore.  As far as we know this has nothing to do with actually software support of the phone.  We should still get timely Android software updates from Google.

      • Anonymous

        Voice of Reason FTW

      • Anonymous

        So then the question becomes…who is going to publish the source code?  I believe that’s one of the requirements of using android, is it not?

        It still feels like, as someone who was happy to have a developer-friendly device, I’ve been short-changed.  Whether it’s a big deal to the community at large or not, this is still something that was a feature of the phone at purchase and is not any longer.

  • Mtaylor924

    I remember reading somewhere recently that Google and Qualcomm were butting heads over something.  As the only maker of CDMA chipsets, perhaps Qualcomm is ultimately the culprit here?  Maybe Google had to take down the support for all CDMA phones until their dispute gets resolved?

  • im going to flip if i got this phone for nothing!!

  • Eazy

    Everyone is missing the point …its Google dropping us the loyal android customers like a bad habit…yes we have the best devs but that doesn’t negate the fact that if this is indeed true it is a blatant sign of disrespect on Google’s part…for shame Google is supposed to be the anti-apple not join its forces

  • Kutter Ross

    I know this will send you guys in a flury, but there is no basis for a lawsuit. Think about it. Verizon and Samsung HAVE to support the phone for the duration of its warranty so thats covered. They didn’t change the stock rom to anything but ICS so it is STILL a Google Experience device. You still have all the developers that have and support the device. Additionally this comes down to Google. It is in their discretion if they want to actually support the device. If they don’t want to change Google Wallet to work securely over Verizon’s network who should you be angry at? Verizon for thinking of the security of your data on its network or for Google to not make the app secure over Verizon’s network?

    I will never own a Samsung phone, and currently own a Droid Razr. Moto and HTC will be my only choices when it comes to phones. I go for quality and design, and Samsung with the Nexus has been anything but.

    • Anonymous

      From a carrier’s perspective, as long as a phone does not cause problems on its network and follows the minimum e-911 protocols etc, then “supporting” a phone for the duration of its warranty means doing nothing more than keeping employees trained, CellBrite update, and keeping a pile of new batteries, battery doors, and refurb devices in stock.  Think of some DOA past phones like the LG Ally or the Devour or Droid Eris.  Those phones never saw much (if anything ) in the way of OS update love but you can still probably get refurbs if your phone is still under warranty coverage. 

      I agree 110% on never owning a Samsung phone.  If the GSII had been available at launch on VZW I would probably have passed due to its low resolution screen and their horrible track record for updates.  i waited months and months and never saw a single official update for my AT&T Galaxy Tab last year. Never again, Samsung!   I hope the honor of Nexus equipment maker is bestowed on Motorola exclusively.  Their hardware has ALWAYS been the best no matter what . With Google providing the software and Jha gone, Moto will be able to craft a Nexus device like none other! 

  • The GSM Nexus is the only true open and unlocked phone. You can use it on every single GSM carrier in the world. The LTE Nexus is locked to only work with VZW. Yeah you will be able to flash it to work on different CDMA carriers but that is not the same as popping in a new SIM and going about  your business.  Glad I dropped VZW. 

  • Panthersmb921

    This isn’t right. Do Nexus users still get timely updates or will they be at the mercy of verizon? Google needs to start flexing some muscle or making a statement, because this is in no way ok. 

    • This just means they’ve dropped developer support, not update support.

      • Anonymous

        When they dropped developer support for the G1 and Nexus One they also stopped pushing updates to those phones.  So right now it can go either way.  LTE users may need to rely on Verizon for updates.

    • Gnexus

      I think this is the muscle they are flexing, just got good for us…

  • Jac_White

    All of you complaining about returning/switching to apple……..What will that buy you exactly?   What would you then have on another device you don’t still have now on your Nexus?

  • I plan on fighting Verizon to refund my phone purchase given that they lied to me.

    • Tim242

      How exactly did they lie to you? You got a great phone that will get updates fast. What are you missing?

      • It’s not a pure Google phone with developer support.

        The reason you get this phone isn’t for official updates from Google (although that’s nice). It’s for the ability to have access to source files, radios etc. to develop the heck out of it. There’s a reason why there are literally dozens of ROMs already. 

        They promised something – developer support and a pure Google experience – and they’ve removed half that experience. Is the phone different now? No. But is it what I paid for? No. 

        Without that developer support, there isn’t the same community that provides tons of customization options for the phone.

        Tell me how they didn’t lie to me by saying it was a Google developer phone?

        • shdowman

          Amen

        • Tim242

          First of all, you are full of $hit. Verizon sold this phone as a stock Android device, not for rooting and custom roms. The last thing they want, is you to root. That’s why by unlocking the bootloader, you void your warranty. That being said, NOTHING IS CHANGING. Custom roms are nit going away, Google updates aren’t going away. You need to know what you are talking about, before being such a drama queen.

          • Anonymous

            Google updates may go away.  Look at what happened with the G1 and Nexus One when Google stopped developer support for it.

          • Tim242

            Google says they are still going to support updates to all Nexus phones. http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/2/3/2769480/verizon-galaxy-nexus-removed-from-googles-developer-support-pages

          • Anonymous

            Exactly. I dont think Verizon ever advertized the G Nex as a developer phone.

            If they did….they better had it separated from the other phones or clearly marked as developer phone.

            Just checking official websites… neither Google, Verizon or Samsung advertizes it as a developer phone. We KNOW it is based on past experience and knowing the ins n out of Android. Maybe Google linked it to developer at some event. But online it isnt mentioned being a developer phone.

            The Nexus One is the ONLY Nexus phone thats actually linked to developers online at Google website, Nexus S is listed as co developed by Google and Samsung at Google website. G Nex isnt listed as either of the 2.

            I’m talking about these pages:

            http://www.google.com/phone/detail/nexus-s

            http://www.google.com/nexus/#/index

            http://www.google.com/phone/detail/nexus-one

            Maybe if digging thru Google’s website it will be a different story…but those first pages tell another story.

  • Eazy

    If this is true I’m switching to the dark side…apple here I come

    • Oh yeah, so the iPhone has developer support huh?  When did that happen?

      • Eazy

        Lol u have never owner an iPhone have apparently not …its OK ur ignorant…they have tons of games which means that they must have lots of developer support they have the cydia store n on n on

        • Eazy

          Damn autocorrect

        • I’m not talking about app developer support, I’m talking about open source, direct from Apple, OS dev support.  That does not exist for the iPhone.

          • Eazy

            Nvm its like trying to reason with a brick wall…

    • Tim242

      LoL that’s hilarious. I played with a friend’s iPhone for all of 2 minutes. It was awful. I couldn’t download anything from the browser, and there is no way to manage files.

  • Chad Baker

    So can we all demand VZW to refund or replace our phones if there is no longer going to be LTE/CDMA support?

    • Tim242

      It is still supported by Google and Verizon for updates. This is support as a dev phone. Comprehension is key. Nothing will change.

  • Paul Harper

    Glad im still in my 30 day window this baby just might be going back!

    • Tim242

      LoL why? Nothing is changing. You jump to conclusions before understanding what you have read.

  • I’m rooted, so this most likely won’t affect my use of the phone, but nonetheless this is infuriating.

    The reason people bought this phone was because it was a Nexus device. Now it’s just an unlocked Samsung device. It’s absolutely infuriating that they can sell us a device as one thing and then turn around and remove the KEY functionality of the phone 2 months later. Absurd.

    • Tim242

      WTF are you talking about? It is still a Nexus. You people need to get educated before you spew BS.

  • Anonymous

    It’s probably nothing

  • Andrew Elliott

    Why do I always have this kind of luck?  Does Verizon hate me? Or is it Google?  How is this possible?  I thought I had a Nexus!

    • Tim242

      You do. Don’t fall into the path of the drama queens. Nothing is changing.

  • Jscofi

    My nexus vibrate notification for txts doesn’t work anymore. Just stopped one day. Yes I tried all of the settings.
    That’s all.

    • Kyle

      did you try the vibrate settings in the MMS app?

  • Anonymous

    We can all blame this on Verizon.

    • Tim242

      Blame what exactly? Nothing is changing. You don’t even know what this article means. Dd you notice the Nesus S for Sprint missing?

  • For those saying this is a mistake, its not real, they’re just updating, etc. please look again.
    The site specifically states that “No CDMA devices are supported”, and the factory images are “for reference only”.  That is absolutely clear intent, people, use your brains and quit being in denial.
    What does this mean for updates?  Nobody knows at the moment, but you absolutely should be concerned.

  • Anonymous

    Pretty sure this is a fluke.

    • I don’t think you know what fluke means.  This being a fluke does not make any sense.

      • Anonymous

        I know what fluke means.  I guess we’ll just have to wait for this to develop and see where it goes.

        • The definitely of the work “fluke” doesn’t fit this situation at all.  I think you mean something like “misunderstanding” or “misinterpretation”.

          • Anonymous

            Fluke:  an accident or chance happening.
            As in, when I first read it, without reading the link page I thought someone accidentally goofed and removed those devices from the page.

      • Anonymous

        Okay I read the whole thing in the Building page and I see what you mean.

  • *sigh*

  • Mike McCrary

    Here’s a good question, why is everybody automatically attacking Verizon for this, IF there is anything to even attack them over? How do we know this wasn’t Google’s doing?

    The Sprint Nexus S 4G was also removed in the same way. Did Verizon remove that too?

    I would hang on for an official response from Google before you guys throw Verizon under the bus. Chill out.

    Just my 2 cents.

    • It probably is Google’s doing. And again, we don’t know what it means. It could mean absolutely nothing. It just looks bad, right now, especially since Google does things like this and usually never makes a statement about them until after the fact.

      • Anonymous

        How does it look bad? You aren’t being objective about the situation. You reported it as being bad news instead of looking at it as them potentially pulling the information to modify it. It only looks bad if you make it so.

        • Christian

          A lot of people are saying this…but if you’re pulling information to edit it, I don’t see why they would tell us that CDMA devices are no longer supported 😛

          • maybe theres some kind of Macro that if CDMA devices are taken down, they automatically gets thrown up, to cover their asses.

          • I would think a default of “CDMA support is currently not available, please return later” would be more prudent.

      • Gnexus

        Agree, however Verizon would be the one causing Google to do this.. We need to speak out against Verizon

    • Anonymous

      Thank you for the voice of reason in all of this.

  • As long as CM9 is as good as I believe it will be, I don’t really care. I have every intention of running that and have since day one.

  • Christian

    I don’t see how it would have anything to do with Google Wallet since the Nexus S 4G got taken down also. And I was also thinking about the 4.0.3 update…weren’t we supposed to see it at least a month ago? Maybe something has been going on behind the scenes…it is strange and hopefully some kind of mistake…

  • Anonymous

    Yes, dev community is fantastic for this phones.

    But horrible news because this means that devs can’t use the proprietary drivers. That’s the item of most concern for me. 

  • Steve

    If its the case I want to return it for a refund / exchange

  • Anonymous

    That would suck pretty bad. I would hope that Google wouldn’t do something like this just because of Google Wallet, but who knows?

  • People actually beleive this?? At least wait for an official statement websites twnd to be easily manipulated

  • burnsra
  • Charlie

    Ever since Engadget posted this in the last line of their Verizon Galaxy Nexus review, I’ve always kind of agreed. This is Verizon after all. Makes sense now.

    “Oh, and does it truly deserve to wear the Nexus name? No, not quite, but we’re not going to let ourselves get too worked up about that.”

  • I hope you all like 4.0.2 cause that’s the last update we’ll see on Verizon.  😉

  • Scott

    The 4.0.3 update has been eerily quiet.

  • LOl this is probably not true. I saw one of the pages that someone showed, that it was possibly taken down for the update to 4.0.3. same thing happened with the Xoom. I doubt they would do this with a device known for Google Updates. Remember, these sites don’t always know everything. Sometimes these sites just want attention.

    https://plus.google.com/117699316330160899320/posts/27Ui3VSAqg5#117699316330160899320/posts/27Ui3VSAqg5

  • This is a travesty 

  • Vaporware

    Sorry but anyone that bought a Verizon device ( whether it is Nexus branded or not ) and thought that updates would be like other Nexus devices is a fool. Take a look at the Xoom for example. ICS for the wifi Xoom came out weeks ago and the Verizon version hasn’t even had a sniff of ICS yet. Many of us tried to tell you this would happen and we were mocked. Karma perhaps? Either way I hope for all Nexus buyers that the updates aren’t left to Samsung because if the are, God help you all.

    • What you mean the xoom 4g will get it in the next couple weeks and at least thw nwxus will get updatws months before you all do even if its not considered a developer phone

  • Brandon

    Time to chew out Verizon and return the phone. Not signing up for a Verizon experience device.

    • Tim242

      I hope you are not as stupid as you come across.

  • Anonymous

    Well according to DL, Google is leaving the business! Oh my god people, freak out time!

  • Anonymous

    So, the phone was sold as a Google phone. A few months later, this one reason that I bought the device is shown to be false. Well I’m at a loss here.

    • Because the phone will still get updates from Google, most likely

      • Anonymous

         So you don’t believe this article?

        • nope.

          • Anonymous

             I sure hope you’re right!

          • Apparently, this same thing happened to the Xoom, and it was just reference to the updates being modified, not terminating support.

        • Tim242

          THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH UPDATES. People need to know what they are commenting on, before commenting. This BS just causes the drama queens to flare up. It’s not good for your heart.

    • xyzlene

      perhaps that is a substantail reason.. but at the same time it does not have the google image on our back plate.. i thought that was suspect to begin with but i TRUSTED verizon and google. If this nonsense is true im going to sell this phone with all the accessories, and go back to my droid x…. will never purchase any android device again out of principle.. and i thought apple users got the short end of the stick.. will be chexking xda shortly to see what is going on there….

  • WTF

  • trumpet444

    way to go verizon. Only you could f*ck up a Nexus

    • Tim242

      STFU you idiot. You don’t know what you are talking about. Notice, the SPRINT NEXUS S IS INVOLVED AS WELL. This whole thing is being blown out of proportion.

  • Nsbjj

    Reading this on my RAZR Maxx with a slight smile…

    • Topsitee

      surprised your lips aren’t locked down like your phone

    • How can you read this with that horrible display?

    • Tim242

      Smiling about what? This means nothing. You haven’t a clue. Enjoy that awful display.

    • Anonymous

      Wow…you got attacked and you basically said nothing.

      Fanboyism must be nice. Yea…noticed it starting with the Galaxy S 1 line. Actually…it started with the Droid 1. When the Incredible launched on Verizon the forums were alive with fanboy fights.

  • Just wait until more mainstream tech media (The Verge, Engadget, BGR) gets wind of this.  Google will have to say something…………….won’t they???? 🙁

    • shdowman

      I’m sorry….did you say BGR???

  • Anonymous

    Meh, if this goes through, I’m done with Android.

    • Tim242

      I hate drama queens.

  • [[[…babysmoker…]]]

    I wonder if this has anything to do with Motorola’s forthcoming “developer” device. I am horrified.

    • Tim242

      Google already stated that preferential treatment would not be given to Moto.

  • The devs will keep us updated on AOSP.

  • Hold your horses. It doesn’t really make sense for Google to have phones that only work on what is considered to be a dying technology, and 2 carriers as dev devices, no?

    I don’t think it’s about Google Wallet, as 2 Sprint Phones (The only net in which Wallet is officially supported) were also taken off.

  • Yea, this is total crap.  Calm down people.  Just because the image isn’t available doesn’t mean they aren’t supporting it anymore.  Why would they quit supporting the Sprint version before it is even released?  Everyone needs to stop jumping for these conclusions until there are known facts.

    • I’m guessing either they’re simply stopping developer support for the LTE version, which isn’t such a big deal, or they’re dealing with the Google Wallet issue.  Either way, we all need to calm down.  This doesn’t mean we lost direct Google support for updates.

      • I don’t even think it goes that far.  Google Wallet possibly, but I have a feeling there was information in there about LTE or Verizon’s apps.  It could even be that they are replacing it later or don’t want it confused with the Sprint version.  There are a bunch of different possibilities and none of them draw the conclusion the Google is dumping the Nexus on Verizon or Sprint.

  • I’ll wait for an official word from google before i make any decisions about how i feel about this.

  • Dwjr82

    Wtf? I really cant believe this. I rooted and rommed to death my og andbdroid x. I wanted a phone tgatvi could just use and expect frequent updates for minor bugs. This is false advertisment and diffetently grounds for a lawsuit. Or at the very least a refund!!!

    • Tim242

      You drama queens make me sick. This means nothing…nothing is changing. Roms nor updates are going away. Stop jumping to conclusions. Btw, this phone was advertised as stock Android, not unlock and root. Verizon does not want you to root, that’s why you void your warranty by unlocking. Geez, so much ignorance around here.

  • This cannot be true. If it is, then I definitely expect a lawsuit. The ONLY reason i bought this phone was because it was an official nexus developer device. Does this mean toro builds will no longer be a part of the ASOP? If so, that will certainly hurt custom rom development.

  • They’re most likely closing the Google Wallet loophole.

    • ddevito

      I hope you’re right

    • Tim242

      Nope. That makes no Sense. Xoom, and Sprint Nexus. This means nothing.

  • Abbie Rosario

    So what does that mean for the Sprint version of the Galaxy Nexus?

  • if it turns out to be true looks like I have at least 4 friends with the Gnex that I will teach to load and run roms. 

  • so we’ll still get our updates, they’ll just come from Verizon?

  • Anonymous

    Don’t f with me!

  • ddevito
  • Suckaaaaaaas thats why I am waiting for a nice Moto quad core 

    • Topsitee

      no such thing as a nice moto

  • Seriously after 2 years of waiting for a verizon “nexus” they do this?

  • I call BS… they are also not listing Stingray (3g / 4G) Xoom.. So if you beleoive that Google is just up and dropping the the Stingray, Crespo4g and Toro devices your nuts.. It would completely damage the trust on the Nexus name

    • Tyler Davis

      Happy belated birthday..glad to hear this is your stance, can’t wait to see more Gummy work.

    • exactly. Their LTE is the only one in America right now. So at the moment they’re only supporting phones in Europe. I doubt that.

  • Anonymous

    Has it been updated yet? No? What’s that? Oh, they’re busy with hardware updates every month. Seriously, get your head out of your ass.

  • Anonymous

    Wow I think I just heard the boners wither away of the Verizon Galaxy Nexus “Elitists.”  I am sure your next “latest versions” update straight from Goog… oh no now Verizon will still be awesome.  There will be some awesome applications like Slacker Radio, VideoSurf, VZ Navigator, Vcast Apps, and some other excellent applications to add to your “user” experience.  

    • Topsitee

      your spewing garbage

    • mons

      I haven’t been running Google’s version anyway.  Unlocked bootloader = custom roms. 

  • Matt M

    People should probably chill out before jumping to conclusions

  • GCurry

    Which company actually represented it as a “pure Google experience” device.   Is that implicit in the Nexus naming?  Who named it?  Since I bought mine from Costco, what responsibility does Costco have, as opposed to Samsung, Verizon, Google?  Wonder whether anything in the packaging said anything about this, or everyone just let buyers believe what they wanted to believe?

  • This just means it’s not an official developer device.  It doesn’t mean we lost direct Google support.  It actually makes sense from Google’s standpoint.

  • You people really make me laugh, I mean come on now. Do you really think that Google can class the LTE version as a developer device for a worldwide OS that is only able to be used on 1 carrier in 1 country? You’re too amusing

  • M1ghtysauc3

    Razr Maxx, here I come.

    • Topsitee

      RAZR MAXX HD 1080 X for you my friend

    • mons

      As infuriating as this is, I still don’t see why you would go with something with a locked bootloader

  • Anonymous

    Before you jump ship, lets not forget what we already have: unlocked
    bootloader (something VZW customers have been waiting for since the OG
    DROID), and all the ROMS and special tweaks that have been outed and
    those that yet to be outed, hint, hint CM9! I recently upgraded to a
    G-Nex from an OG DROID, and I can tell you that I much rather prefer a
    CM9 build than anything stock Google can offer. So don’t get your
    panties in a bunch folks… we will be alright!

    • Xfloggingkylex

      Except Verizon has had unlocked bootloaders, just no with Moto.  And, CM9 is coming with or without the Nexus, let alone if Google continues Dev support.  All the CM team needs is the ICS source code.  And yes, CM>all but the problem here is people were sold on a Google experience and if this turns out to be true, isn’t the case.

    • Provided the new builds of google can be integrated into the ROMS being put out, we should be fine. Some of the best roms for the TORO were ported from maguro, the GSM Nexus. So, i am not too worried. The thing I am concerned about is whether when android 4.1 comes out if it will break camera functionality or other drivers. When gingerbread and honeycomb got ported to the gtab, it borked some things… but in theory the drivers for the GSM should work on the CDMA version… in theory.

  • Jim McClain

    no wonder costco droped the prices so low

  • Trevor-kai Craig

    I’m sad. . .

  • I’m not gonna flip out until we get an official word. If this is true though, I’m not sure what I’m going to do. Reason I got the Nexus was to have the latest and greatest from Google as they intended it. I don’t have the time to root and flash ROMs to catch up in software.

  • Anonymous

    im still sitting on 2 upgrades….glad i didn’t cash them in now

  • Anon

    Guys relax. You do realize the Nexus S 4G (another CDMA device) was also removed along with this? This issue is not specific to the Galaxy Nexus situation, there is something bigger at hand. Perhaps it will be up to carriers to push updates now?

    • Xfloggingkylex

      And you do realize that is EXACTLY why everyone is getting pissy.  Do you really want VZW making sure your Nexus is up to date?

  • Anonymous

    Glad I go to AOSP for updates.  CM9/AOKP (whichever is better at the moment) for me.

  • Sean Rowe

    We need to demand it be made a developer device. We paid for a developer device and that is what we should have!

  • Anonymous

    Wow.  If this is true then I’ll be paying my ETF and getting out of Verizon.

    • John

      No you won’t but that’s ok 😉

  • Lmrojas

    Everyone got trolled by either verizon or google. This.sucks

  • iamCC

    If this is for real I will probably burn down the Verizon store closest to me.

  • Anonymous

    No…No………….Oh my Google. I was having a great day, until now.

  • Cam

     More likely we just Got Verizon’d. Up the butt. With a BlendTec.

  • Daaaaaang! If I owned one of them Galaxy Nexus phones, I’d be pissed!

    • Yup, that’s how I feel. I was expecting priority updates.

      • Aww man dude! I don’t even know what to say to you. I feel for you =/

        • The phone is still awesome. Google Wallet (mostly) works too 😉

  • Anonymous

    : I’m afraid this may be Verizon’s last move against Google that I can tolerate. Sprint more fits my lifestyle anyway as far as pricing, the way they market products, and being that they use similar technology. If this comes out bad I will be so furious with Verizon I’ll take my family plan elsewhere. And I’ll let them know exactly why too before I go.

    I should be able to use Google Wallet if I want to. It’s a Nexus device. I’m entitled to updates by Google and for Google to have this device as they envisioned it. Apple doesn’t let them get any say. Why does Google have to? Especially on their one device… we couldn’t just have one could we Big Red. That’s all we asked for… 🙁

  • Anonymous

    Dear Loyal VZW Customer,

    We told you we rule the air. Don’t bother complaining. JD Power says we’re the best, we don’t give a sh!t what you think.

    Sincerely yours for the length of your contract,
    VZdoublescrew

    PS: Your bill is due tomorrow.
    PPS: It’s been a pleasure to shock you with this FU.

    • Anonymous

      Your so right Michael. They are the biggest provider and JD Power says they are the best.. This is like a kick in the nutts, slap in the face, arrow to the knee, drop kick to the head..

      • Anonymous

        Ouch…

    • Anonymous

      Nexus S is also involved in this too. I guess this article has been updated a few times. CDMA tech is involved. So its not just the Verizon G Nex.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, I noticed this morning that the LTE version was taken off the “factory images” page. Why the heck would they do this under the radar instead of simply issuing some kind of press release about this?

  • Anonymous

    for the record, I have NEVER accepted an OTA update since Ive been with VZW.  I only depend on the devs.

    • Anonymous

      Ditto…

  • Curtis Martin

    I’d like to personally thank Cyanogen for doing what Google and Verizon in their infinite wisdom cannot.

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  • Leave it to VZW.  We have been swindled again.

  • DroidzFX

    You just got Google’d

    • Barnaby

      like searched?

      • DroidzFX

        nope like being samsung’d or moto’d

  • T_War13

    Was looking to get one at Costco this weekend!!! O_0 so RAZR MAXX looking pretty good to me right now if this is true.

    • T_War13

      Awe f it I been wanting me some tranquilice anyways so I’m still going to Costco.

    • Anonymous

      Unlocked phone that might not be supported by google or locked phone that isn’t supported by google…

  • Jim McClain

    looks like i’ll no only be buying an iphone 5, but leaving verizon too

  • Anonymous

    You DO realize they could’ve pulled the information for modification, right? Or are you just obsessed with creating news to fill out your day?

  • Guest

    If this is true, I’m going to be seriously pissed. I gave up my unlimited ATT account to get a phone that had pure Android and guaranteed updates (or so I thought).

    I’m still within my 14 days at Verizon. I wonder if I should return it…

    • Anonymous

      Same here. Actually this is day 7!

  • Anonymous

    If Nexus is no longer a Google Device, Phaq that and VZ

  • ddevito

    Join my post and tell Google how you feel!

    https://plus.google.com/117699316330160899320/posts/27Ui3VSAqg5

  • Not a developer device does not equal no support, calm down people

  • Skennedy412

    wait …….. what??

  • All the sudden i feel good about getting the HTC Rezound when i was really wanting the Nexus. HTC lags on updates too so only mild win. 

  • Xfloggingkylex

    If this turns out to be Verizon’s fault, expect a class action lawsuit for selling the device as a “Google Experience” and a month later cutting that off.

    • Only lawyers win in class action lawsuits.

      • Barnaby

        he’s right

        • Dom

          in the aeroplane over the sea

      • trumpet444

        bazinga!

      • Anonymous

        The heck they do…. I have received several $10 checks for being a member of a class action.. lol

      • Anonymous

        I won several thousand dollars for not opting out of a work related class-action lawsuit over failure to pay overtime… and I didn’t even realize I was shorted to begin with.  I definitely won big, all I had to do…. was *not* sign my name on a paper and *not* mail it back and I was automatically included in the suit… easy peasy.  😉

    • Christopher Bement

      If you like getting a dollar for your trouble…

  • thank god for the developers who will get us our updates before verizon will. I’m on 4.0.3 and will have 4.0.4 before the ota of 4.0.3 even gets a wiff of air 

  • krohnjw

    I would be surprised if this affected updates at all.  Factory images != OTA updates.  Factory images were never provided for the Nexus S or Nexus One.  The fact they are provided now is a new phenomena.  I don’t see how the two correlate in any way other than Google has decided to only provide factor images (only available when a release is available commercially) to the GSM device.

  • They’ve probably just “closed sourced” the LTE versions of the code.  Verizon and Sprint will both be carrying this phone soon.  I would think Google would want to support those variants.  If we truly have lost Google support, then I’m gonna lose my mind.

  • Anonymous

    This is some bull, it was one of my main factors in purchasing this phone >:(

    • Cam

       For me it was the ONLY factor in purchasing the phone.

    • tjmonkey15

       Same for me.  I’ll be pissed.

  • Anonymous

    Sounds like the basis for a class-action lawsuit to me…sell everyone on a product because of a certain feature, and then take that feature away?

    At the same time, it sounds a lot like the Linux feature that was taken out of the PS3…although I think the reason there was no legal decision against PS3 is because it wasn’t required that the user update their system.  In this situation the status of the phone was simply stripped away without any decision from the user of the phone.

    • fused2explode

      Not true. Lawsuits were filed and then quickly buried in red tape and paperwork. By the time a decision would’ve been made, PS5 would be on the market.

      • Anonymous

        Apparently we’re both correct.  There was an initial lawsuit that was dismissed (
        http://www.joystiq.com/2011/12/13/ps3-other-os-class-action-dismissed/), however it appears that there are others that are ongoing.

        • Az

          Someone mentioned this above “only lawyers win in class action lawsuits.” With that being said, if this does come to being a completely unsupported device (which I don’t think it will), well, then I might pursue the course of action that a women in calforna took against Honda and their mpg claims for a hybrid car they make. In this case, the woman took Honda to small claims court and sued them for her state’s maximum of 10,000.00 as opposed to the measely 100.00 credit that the larger class action lawsuit is attempting to receive from Honda for consumers.

  • Yeah, this is pretty bad, if it continues indefinitely going forward…

  • Andrew

    Noooooooooooooooooo

  • Michael Forte

    Well if Google no longer supports it, then I guess you can kiss any more official updates goodbye, we know how Samsung is with updates.

  • If this happens I WILL switch to Windows Phone 7 (or the iPhone for that matter).

    • Come on man… Windows 7… that’s just crazy talk.

  • OttawayAdManager Ottawayadmana

    Holy flipping shitballz.

  • Worm

    I want my money back. I didn’t buy this for 2 years of Verizon updates. I bought it for 2 years of Google updates

    • tjmonkey15

       Exactly!

    • If this ends up being true, there’d be nothing left to stop me from selling my Nexus and picking up a Rezound, disappointing as it is to say.

      • Anonymous

        Not disappointing! The Rezound rox!

        • yesssss

          I LOVE MY REZOUND. Also former nexus owner

      • Anonymous

        I’m trying to sell my rezound to get a Nexus. You can imagine my internal conflicts I’m going through.

        • Webmasternapa

          I love my Rezound.  I’ve used a few Nexus phones and they aren’t near as good!

          • Barnaby

            Well that’s because HTC/Rezound/Sense is geared towards slower consumers, so I can see how you’d favor it.

          • David Hayden

            It’s so sad when people have to belittle others to make themselves feel better about what phone they picked.

          • Anonymous

            I dont whats sadder…his post or the 11 ppl who liked it….

          • Anonymous

            Without s-off, it’s not as attractive to devs. I haven’t even bothered unlocking it.

          • Please explain why you feel the Nexus isn’t as good.

          • Billyrouth2000

            Oh so your the one person who bought the buggy rezound? Sucks to be you

      • Nick

         I’ll be selling my Nexus and getting a GSM Nexus.

        • Anonymous

           Copy-Pasteing from my comment below:

          “This is from a developer page for building fastboot and adb, two tools that are part of the android development platform.

          It has NOTHING to do with update support for CDMA devices. Until you
          hear something from Google on that topic, you can assume you’ll get the
          updates for your device in a timely manner.

          Such early support drop isn’t possible, especially for the Nexus devices.”

          • Anonymous

            Look up.

        • Anonymous

          I’ll buy your Nexus from you.

      • …considering the Rezound has a GSM/CDMA/LTE transceiver and apparently can even work in GSM+LTE mode, that would be a good choice.

    • Anonymous

      Exactly my sentiments.

    • Anonymous

      Has nothing to do with google updating the device.  Websites use tactics to gain hits, that’s all. 

      • Anonymous

        A-fckn-men…..Click Bait at its finest(worst)

    • Really Google?

      +1

    • Anonymous

      Nobody ever said you’re not getting updates…

  • Dwjr82

    I sure hope this isnt the case…..but does this mean no updates from google?

  • you know what, im not freaking out. the developer base is already huge, and i havent had a single problem at all with this phone (literally zero, there is nothing wrong with my phone)

    • Same. The whole point of a developer phone is that we have developer support. That hasn’t changed… if anything, this will bring more developer support to the phone. Google updates are great, but I never expected them — I was always planning on a custom ROM.

      • Brandon

        Yes, but the developers ultimately take their cue’s from the vendor (in this case Google) and rely specifically on the vendor for driver and firmware updates that they do not have any ready means to execute easily otherwise.

        Things work fine until a new iteration of the OS rolls out and we find that we need updated drivers for everything to work well again — then what?

    • Anonymous

      My concern is…if Google isn’t adapting the software for our phone anymore, who is?

  • TROLOLOL

    Love how when Life-Droid posts Motorola news, there are barely any comments but when Galaxy Nexus news is posted all the fanboys (including me) come out of the woodwork.

    • It is easy to see that many many people purchased this device. You don’t have to be a “fanboy” to realize what a great device this is. 

  • Jeremy Morrison88

    WTF! Time to occupy Verizon and Google again guys. Just like we did to get the kraken released we must do to get support back.

  • Anonymous

    Not an issue. Will be updating in less than 6 months anyway. heh, revolving phones. 

  • Troll

    lolololololol where are all the nexus fanboys now?  You upgraded to a second rate phone with a crappy camera and no sd card and now lost your only edge, Droid RAZR ftw.

    • Josh Groff

      I’ll stick to my G2X and Sensation 4G, I like WiFi calling.

    • Michael Forte

      Uhh you still have a locked down phone. Ours is still unlocked with a single command. We have the developer support. Nexus still wins.

      • Anonymous

         LoL Troll needs some Android 101 LOL

        • Michael Forte

          Are you kidding me? I had a Bionic before the Nexus and am glad I got away from the locked bootloader. Sure, you may have developers working on 2nd-init ROMs that run on ONLY the Moto kernel, but it’s just not the same as a fully unlocked device. The Nexus reminds me of what I loved about my OG Droid, fully unlocked along with tons of developer support. I don’t care how good the RAZR is, if it isn’t unlocked, I’m not buying it. (I just realized that your comment probably wasn’t directed towards me…*facepalm*)

      •  Troll will not respond to bootloader comments…

      • Anonymous

        You also have a fat, plastic, “developer device”.  Most consumers would consider that a loss. 

    • Anonymous

       Ahhh, I think your knowledge is a little slow on the uptake there little guy, your Droid Razr for instance is owned by the giant that bought out your little company called Motorola Mobility by the giant Google!!!!!!!! 

      So please, think before you speak and you might get noticed for not being the guy that needs some education, but can actually know how to hold a conversation in public.

      See what I did there???  I didn’t even have to insult you t 🙂

      • Troll

        exactly, we’ll haz all teh updatez because google owns us, enjoy your 2 year contract with what is no longer a decent phone

        • Christopher Bement

          Bootloader is still locked, and the companies are being run separately because if not, it would piss off the other big manufacturers. Fail troll.

        • Anonymous

          Talk About Not Being Able To Live Up To Your Name… You Failed Life Twice, Internet Life And Real Life

          • Anonymous

            Captializing The First Letter Of Every Word Is Almost As Annoying As Using Z Instead Of S and Teh Instead Of The.
            Seriously, it’s not very easy to read.

        • Anonymous

          @Troll Ok let’s first start at your sentence/Grammer “we’ll haz all teh updatez because google owns us” not insulting you by any means, but I had a hard time trying to understand what you’re trying to say!!! Something about Google trying to own us because they give us first updates!!! Is that correct??????????

          Again not starting anything with you just trying to understand your communication style. Your words don’t come across in an standard manner in which to effectively communicate what you’re trying to say, that’s all. Please be more specific. Thanks man 🙂

    • Tsteege

      I totally disagree Troll.  The phone works great for me, and the camera side by side blows away the RAZR 8mp.  SD card is a non issue for me but the RAZR without a removable battery would be.  My Nexus will continue to be my choice…

    • Spectrum FTW

    • Alan Smithee

      Enjoy your locked bootloader.

    • Anonymous

      Bahaha the RAZR? Or the RAZR MAXX they released a month later to fix the RAZR. The RAZR is the last of the current phones I’d get.

      • Anonymous

        What exactly did the MAXX fix?

        • Anonymous

          The MAXX fixes the battery life that people were complaining about.  Then the developer version is unlockable, but no warranty (even hardware problems aren’t covered).  Is the next going to be an unlockable MAXX or an unlockable RAZR with a warranty? I really liked my Droid but Moto has really dropped the ball lately.

    • It’s funny…right before I read this, I was thinking of how much I actually really like the Nexus.  So, as far as I am concerned, if it turns out that the phone won’t get updates immediately, it is in the same situation as the RAZR which, as far as I am concerned, is a lesser device.  People may not agree with me on this but there are many, who make it their business to review phones, do agree.  I am quite happy with my Nexus and have zero complaints.  

    • Xfloggingkylex

      This doesn’t mean they are locking the boot loader (they aren’t motorola for christ’s sake) or even worse.  The only way google can match moto now is if they try to sell the new GALAXY NEXUS MAXX DEVELOPER EDITION.  Moto is a joke.

    • Christopher Bement

      You still have a locked bootloader. Fail.

    • Pandawatch08

      Strong username to post content. 

    • Dirk Diggler

      The Rezound owns you both. Spec wise and soon development wise. Nice try Razr fanboy!

      • Anonymous

        ICS>>>>>>>>HTC Sense 2.3

    • Tyler Davis

      lolwut…may not have an SD card slot, but at least we can change out our batteries, and I don’t think Samsung will be releasing the Nexus MAXX, then the Nexus developer anytime soon, your phone is already 3 generations behind.

    • Anonymous

      I got a GSM Nexus, bitch.

    • Anonymous

      Wow. Even with the name “Troll” fanbois still took the bait. These GNex fanbois are starting to sound a lot like Applelytes.

      • Anonymous

        It’s awesome to watch them pigpile though. No better than the camping hosers in the Samsung commercials unfortunately.

    • Anonymous

      Ha. Pay no attention to this guy. He’s just jealous that his laggy, lock phone with no removable battery and MotoBluryshit isn’t as good as a Galaxy Nexus.

  • BPStroh

    It’s a good thing I paid retail and still have an upgrade in my pocket in March.  When the next
    “developer” phone comes out everybody just let me know.

    • Anonymous

      You mean the RAZR Developer Edition? Have fun, hope nothing’s wrong with it.

  • Lmrojas

    Oh sh*t. Ron was right. Verizon is a peice of sh*t

  • Javier

    For a moment I thought it was April 1st

    • Anonymous

      But then I would be watching the Game of Thrones season 2 premiere…but I’m not…so it’s not…and now I’m sad for two reasons 🙁

  • Anonymous

    This has to be a mistake, I know you’re working hard on this development Kellex Wow, this is a game changer!!!!!

  • TROLOLOL

    Fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!

  • boogersugar

    Thanks. Just in time for the weekend. TGIF FAIL.

  • Anonymous

    not surprised at all after the whole “Exclusively on Verizon” launch fiasco. It is obvious Google cares more about foreign markets than American… and launching their flagship device in a foreign country only attested that. A marked difference between how Google treats it’s American customers vs Apple.. that has always cared about Americans first.

    • Or it could be that Verizon was too demanding to Google, maybe?

      • Barnaby

        fo sho, but don’t try to tell an iPhanBoy that

    • Xfloggingkylex

      I’m assuming you think Apple cares only about Americans strictly based on how poorly they treat their non-American workers, otherwise your comment is laughable.  This is likely a VZW eff up.  They probably wouldn’t comply with Googles requirements to be a developer device and so google pulled it.  VZW has already shown they won’t let the Google experience involve any products that compete with them making money (google wallet) so I’d be looking at VZW first.

  • Javiggan69

    ?

  • Anonymous

    Verizon just has to screw everything up. As much as I love this phone, I set my expectations way too high.

  • Seriously! I was Literally about to go to Costco to pick one up. 

    • and now u arent? really?

      • Barnaby

        This is one of the largest draws to this phone, so this is completely understandable. Contrary to your beliefs people do buy phones for things other than playing angry birds

      • Anonymous

        Who would? If this pans out it mean we just lost all future timely updates which makes this the same as all other phones. My nexus has terrible radio software and horrible battery that would/should be helped and fixed in future updates which might not be happening now so yeah I would hold off for sure knowing it still has bugs that might not be fixed for months now because Google booted it off the update path.

      •  What they said. I don’t know anyone who has bought the phone yet and I was willing to deal with the reports about the radios, battery life and speaker because I wanted the Google experience and updates. If Google/ Verizon don’t issue a clarifying statement I am going to wait to upgrade from my OG Droid Incredible.

    • nice thing about costco is that you have 3 months to return it. If this turns out to be a false or gets fixed you have nothing to worry about. Also having the bootloader unlocked its heavily supported by devs and will regardless if google supports it. Nexus S got ice cream sandwich before google officially pushed it. 

  • Anonymous

    What!?

  • Topsitee

    What does this mean to the Rooted/Rom/Themed user?

    • Anonymous

      Didly Squat.  We can go about our business as usual.

      • John

        I can’t be the only person that thinks of Nicolas Cage in ‘Con Air’ when someone uses ‘Diddly Squat’ 

        =/

        • Anonymous

          For the sake of humanity, I hope you are.

  • Prankm

    Well.  I’m glad I didn’t update early.

  • Kevin Simpson

    This makes me want to take my Nexus back. When I had a Razr, it was an amazing phone that performed flawlessly for me. The Nexus has been a frequent pain in the ass. Its only saving grace is that it was a developer phone that would get special treatment before any other phones.

    • Anonymous

      This is gonna make the RAZR line even more of a darling to VZW than it already is. From now on, Motorola should be the exclusive provider of all Nexus handsets and Google can put the smack down on all of the carrier B.S.

    • Anonymous

      Wow, frequent pain in the ass?  Maybe because it’s so large, you have to cram it extra hard?

      Seriously, I have zero problems with mine.  And it’s my wife’s first Android phone and she loves it.  Dunno what kind of advance super l33t stuff you’re trying to do with yours, but maybe the problem is you.

      • Anonymous

        Get off your high horse. Several people report significant problems with their GNex, just like with every device ever released. Seriously, you GNex fanbois are starting to sounds like Apple’s faithful.

        • Jordan Webb

          Just like the fanboys of every product, including the Rezound, RAZR, Nexus, and iPhone (haven’t met a WP7 fanboy yet).

          I owned a Bionic last year, and people (including VZW) said it was amazing even though I had tons of problems. Now I’m on the other side of the coin and have an amazing phone while others have issues.

          Point is: everyone does this. The Nexus is just more popular and widespread, so it has more people talking about it.

          • Anonymous

            Go to Engadget and you’ll see the WP7 fanbois. Of course, since MS reprotedly dumped $1BN into WP7 advertising, there’s a strong possibility that they’re MS employees or paid bloggers/commenters.

        • Anonymous

          Several? So that’s like 3 or 4?

          • Anonymous

            Seriously, you sound just like people who say, “There is no reception issue with the iPhone 4! No one has problems with Siri unless they’re a moron! The iPhone 4S doesn’t have any screen yellowing issue!”

            Being a blind sports fan is pretty dumb (like the team gives two craps about you). Being a blind gadget fan is even more dumberer.

          • Anonymous

            Funny you should bring up reception, because that’s the only “issue” I have with mine.  But I speak with experience, with both a rooted/rom’d GNex and a completely stock one, no “significant” problems with either of them.

            You call me a blind fan, but I tried them all before I made my purchases.  My last phone was a Galaxy S, so maybe I’m just used to Samsungs.  Have you actually owned a GNex, or do you just blindly spread the clickbait fodder that you read on forums like the rest of the Moto fanbois?

          • Anonymous

            Take a deep breath. It’s all going to be OK.

            I think the GNex is an awesome device and worthy of all the praise it’s getting. Best screen in the industry, awesome OMAP processor, vanilla ICS (woot!), NFC, unlocked bootloader, and a host of other radness. But it’s still an electronics device. It still will have some devices that came out of the factory with defects. There are still some problems with the device even if it came out without defects (software updates for bugfixes exist for a reason). There are still other manufacturers out there that will do some things better.

            It’s not a judgement against you; it’s just a reality of life in the electronics world. Don’t get your identity from a phone. That’s what fast cars and hot girls are for.

          • Anonymous

            What about the Moto fanbois that had a RAZR and G Nex?

            I had both at the exact same time…for comparisons….and went with the RAZR and Rezound for data reception. Phone reception goes to the RAZR between all 3.

            I guess that makes me a fanboy too…

          • Anonymous

            For instance:
            http://www.droid-life.com/2012/02/04/saturday-poll-does-your-galaxy-nexus-microphone-cut-out-during-calls/#disqus_thread

            I rest my case. The GNex is an awesome phone for sure, but pretending it can’t have problems just makes you look like a fanboi.

          • Anonymous

            E X A C T L Y!!

            And like with the iPhone 4…reception issues with the G Nex isnt really noticed unless you are in a weak, bad reception area. I have been living and working in that type of area since 2008 so I know off the bat if a phone has good reception or not.

            I had a G Nex…and in weaker areas it isnt as good as other phones I tried. 4.0.3 radios didnt help. Maybe 4.0.4 ones will…

      • Anonymous

        If you consider making/receiving reliable calls and having a decent data connection l33t….

        Yes I HAD a G Nex too.

  • … heart..just…stopped.

  • This could possibly be the worst thing to ever happen should it be real.  Dropping AOSP support onto Samsung = death of the phone.

    • Kevin Bates

      This doesn’t bother me really.  I am unlocked, rooted, and running bugless beast which in my opion is the best!!!!  I have a stable connection.  I am currently in NY and am using LTE for the first time.  I have a stable LTE connectionn with 1 bar getting about 10 down and 4 up. (This is with 1 bar mind you)  I am tethered to my ASUS Transformer with no issues.  I know that the HtC Rezond is a good phone, but ICS AOSP rocks!  So I am not upset.  I am running 4.03.  

  • Matthew Rosidivito

    I’m gonna need another margarita…

    • Anonymous

      Don’t get so hot under the pants.

      This is from a developer page for building fastboot and adb, two tools that are part of the android development platform.

      It has NOTHING to do with update support for CDMA devices. Until you
      hear something from Google on that topic, you can assume you’ll get the
      updates for your device in a timely manner.

      Such early support drop isn’t possible, especially for the Nexus devices.

      • Matthew Rosidivito

        I still want my margarita.

  • ITGuy11

    Nice work verizon…

  • Andrew

    If they roll out TouchWiz I will cancel Verizon after my contract out of principle.

    • Nick

       I’ll say to hell with the contract, cancel immediately, and run over the phone with my car.

      • Andrew

        Probably better to just be rooted and not take the update. To each his own though.

  • Tim Swann

    Big Red can go screw themselves!

  • I’m going to bet this is VZW’s fault. Google needs to pull an Apple and fight Verizon for the sake of the customer.

    • trumpet444

      thats one thing I respect about Apple, they don’t back down from a fight. (even though they start most of em)

    • VZW doesn’t sell the crespo4g so it’s obviously not related to them

    • Anonymous

      All CDMA Nexus are involved, not just the one on Verizon.

  • Anonymous

    No Crespo4G either…

  • Figures.

  • Anonymous

    ????

    • Doesn’t matter at all for us. We’ll be fine.

      • I’m still going to pick one up in an hour. I’ve never really cared about OTA’s.

      • Adam Brandt

        will we still be updated as Google releases newer and newer versions of Android (rooted users)?