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Do We Have to Wait for the iPhone 5 to See NFC Widely Adopted? Probably. [Opinion]

As Android fans, I know that most of us don’t want to hear it, but if NFC (Near Field Communications) is ever going to take off and be widely adopted, we need the iPhone 5 to support it.

When the Nexus S was released on December 16, 2010 as the first NFC-enabled phone, Google made an early push to get both businesses and consumers into accepting the idea that their phones could share information by simply touching it to objects. The thought of paying for your morning coffee or cab fare without having to dig into your purse or back pocket seemed so game-changing. Since we all make our phones the most readily available item on our bodies at all times, what a brilliant idea this was. 

Unfortunately for all of the early adopters, NFC has yet to take off after more than a year. You can blame Google Wallet’s limited release to the Sprint version of the Nexus S only, the lack of manufacturers willing to build the technology into their phones, the yet-to-be-released Isis project by 3 of the 4 major carriers, or the lack of support by the entire credit card industry, but our thoughts immediately go to the one product that none of us care about. Yep, that would be the next iPhone.

Should the next iPhone include an NFC chip, investing in some sort of NFC company would be a fantastic choice. As many of you know, meaningful movements take massive numbers in order to be effective. With the number of iPhone users growing by the millisecond, they make up such a massive percentage of the smartphone population that they may be the only group that can get something like NFC to go mainstream.

If you aren’t buying that thought, think back about some of the other concepts that Apple was able to leverage into billion dollar money makers. The iPad is for the most part, the only tablet in the world that can turn a decent sized profit after years of attempts by other tech companies, front facing cameras are now a standard in all smartphones, great grandmothers even know how to buy media through iTunes, and the PC world has one focus for 2012 – to create Ultrabooks aka MacBook Air competitors. We need Apple to make NFC happen.

As painful as it is to write that, I’m sitting here with my Galaxy Nexus in Portland, OR unable to use NFC in my daily life. Sure, I can tap my GSM Nexus to my LTE Nexus and giggle or I can walk down to the closest McDonald’s to buy a cheeseburger, but do I want to? Not really. I want to buy groceries with my phone, instantly send money to my friend who picked up the bar tab so that the waiter didn’t have to bring us two checks, swap contact info in seconds with a new business colleague, and give the tourist on the street directions to the best burrito cart in the city. That’s what I want to do.

So far though, very few people own a phone with an NFC chip. I personally know 2. If the next iPhone adopts it, you immediately have a product with a new technology that millions of people are going to want to use. Not only that, but you have hundreds of companies who are going to want to develop products to use that new technology. And then hopefully, Android manufacturers figure it the hell out and start getting with the times. Like it or not, we need the iPhone this time around, folks.

  • Anonymous

    I could care less about NFC…

  • Matthew Rosidivito

    I see where you’re going, but I actually have to disagree. NFC payments are in my daily life. Every self-checkout machine in my local grocery stores have NFC readers. As does the Wawa that I get coffee or lunch at. Food and gas are generally all NFC enabled, everything else I need I get online.

  • I was going to use my Nexus to buy McDonald’s last night but they had plastic card holders holding promotional cards stuck to the area where I needed to wave my phone.

  • You know, I think all Android users have this internal struggle with themselves. I think they secretly want to be iPhone users in a way similar to how certain people point the finger at gays and bash them, only secretly harboring the fact that they are, in fact, closet gays themselves.

  • TC Infantino

    Yes, Android is a wannabe product…that has greater market share than the iphone.  And if you think that apple got it right by controlling what is on the phone that You paid for, then you so deserve the iphone.  For the love of all that is holy please keep buying apple products, and let those of us who have the brains enough to want control over a product that we paid for keep the good smartphones for ourselves.

    • Dude, there is NOTHING that Droid has that I feel as if I’m missing on my iPhone. Whiz-bang gadgets? Battery wasters… I have far more quality usable apps at my disposal than Android ever had or will have and I don’t have to sift through piles of dog crap to find them in a sea of fake and often malicious apps like the Google Market. My iPhone gets a lot of use, and when I put it on charge at the end of the day, I still have over 50% battery, usually. Under the heaviest of use, I still have more than 20% battery. Unlike the Google/handset OEM/carrier mess that develops Android phones, Apple designs them from top to bottom to work like they should.

      • Chris

        well said!

  • Chris

    you sound so pathetic Kellex. just acknowledge that fact Apple’s success in tech industry deserves it’s recognition and respect. stop crying about it!

    “but our thoughts immediately go to the one product that none of us care about. Yep, that would be the next iPhone.” Really? none of us care about? why are we talking about this then?

  • Balls

    it would help if the masses (meaning non DL xda readers) could use google wallet like i do all the time

  • So, are you saying that Android is not influential in the market at all? HA HA! Just like Jobs said, it’s a theft of IP and nothing more than a wannabe product.

    • Chris

      Kellex would never admit to it, even though you’re 100% correct because he’s Android’s little you know what.

  • Anonymous

    apple invented everything. they just haven’t patented it yet. 😛

  • Let’s see how the DROID 5 looks. {{-_-}}

  • LewD1

    Hate to agree with Kellex, but NFC ,as a new technology,  won’t catch on unless it’s adopted by the masses. (i.e. millions of iPhone users) We see Siri marketed as this great new thing, when we’ve had voice actions for years.  Most people see an iPhone commercial and are introduced to what all the device can do. If Apple comes out with commercials promoting NFC on the iPhone 5,  retailers and  credit card companies will jump on board to promote it. 

    I just wish that Google would take the initiative and make commercials to promote the features of Android to it’s true potential.  Instead of Android OEMs advertising the benefits/features of Android, consumers are bombarded with Verizon’s Droid advertising  & 4G speeds, when the majority of consumers don’t have a clue as to what the four gees means.We as Android enthusiasts know how great of an OS Android is. And it took hands on experience and word of mouth for many of us to experience this. I’ve seen first hand as a sales person for Verizon, how many  people don’t have a clue about  iPhones, but they know they want one, just because they saw what it can do on TV. 

    my $.02

    • Chris

      Unlike Android, Apple never rushes in getting the “next new thing” out to market, unless it;s perfected. This just goes to show you that it’s all about iPhone (quality) vs Android (quantity).

      •  Well, with the exception of .Mac… lol That was when Jobs went off on the developers and it will never happen again.

        • Chris

          true dat!

  • I have been telling my friends the exact same thing from the get go… NFC is a VERY cool technology that I think really will revolutionize how we use our phones in our day to day lives.  The problem also stems from hardware fragmentation… Just because you and your friend have the latest and greatest android phones does not mean both phones will be able to do the same thing.  That is the price you pay for an open system but I really feel like google needs to step up and take control over certain aspects of android hardware and software (skins).  That said, until apple makes it cool, it wont catch on… but im willing to bet once apple comes out with a phone that has NFC hardware built in, every other android manufacturer will jump on board despite googles attempts with the nexus. 

  • Anonymous

    I say it is pretty widely accepted now. I can go to CVS or Walgreens, do some grocery shopping at Dagostino, get gas at a couple of different gas stations around town and even use NFC payments at a couple of local stores too.  This is just within a couple square mile radius of my home.  If I hit the mall it can be used at Gap, Footlocker, Macy’s and a few other places.

    Of course Apple will come along with it one day and claim they invented it. 

  • Anonymous

    Google may have had NFC first but apple will find some way to integrate it into the OS so that it works flawlessly and the public will praise apple for doing so…I like both OS’ but google really did half ass google wallet…

    • Tim242

      Google did not half-ass Google Wallet. I use it daily on my Verizon Nexus. It works flawlessly. PayPass is all over the place. The carriers are not allowing it, because they are going to use their own app…ISIS. Sprint is the only carrier to officially support wallet, because they are the only carrier not to sign an agreement with ISIS. This is in no way a fault of Google, or a bad reflection of Google Wallet. Know what you are talking about, before talking trash.

    • DroidTruth

      Flawlessly? You may have to explain that one. Was Siri flawless?

      • Chris

        Siri is still in its beta version so for what it’s capable now i would say it’s pretty close to being flawless.

  • Ufcjeff

    actually apple could call it kfc and use its finger lickin good then sue kfc for patent infringement

    • Anonymous

      Hahahahaaha …

  • 1) Go to tagstand.com, but NFC stickers
    2) Use NFC Task Launcher and Tasker to do things with those stickers
    3) Mock others without such awesomeness.

  • Davidukfl

    I used google wallet all the time. It’s perfect for “on the fly” type shopping. I use it at CVS and 7/11 all the time. If I’m grocery shopping, the time I’m stood in line, plus the time to bag groceries.. a couple of extra seconds paying with my debit card instead of my phone isn’t that big of a deal.

    Also i use NFC tags in my house, car and at work. My “iphone fanboy” coworker literally said “wow that is sick” when i showed him how i just place my phone on the sticker and it automatically adjusts ringtone/notification volume and turns off bluetooth.

    I agree though, the iphone 5 will make or break NFC being used more mainstream for frequent day to day use

  • What yall fail to realize is…its no standard terminals. some have paypass some dont. apple releasing an nfc capable phone wont magically change that. droid wins again…in its home turf.

  • Anonymous

    I have the AT&T version of the Nexus S, the i9020a and I have Google Wallet up and running just fine, along with ICS. 🙂 We only have five places in Ukiah CA that currently take it (MC PayPass), Radio Shack, Jack in the Box, both McDonald’s and Home Depot, I used it at McDonald’s to buy a nice treat for me and my parents last week, thanks for the 10 bucks Google! 🙂

    • Anonymous

      On a sidenote… yeah for Ukiah! I grew up in Clearlake

      • Anonymous

        Right on!  I actually was born and raised in Southern California (born in Riverside in 1971, grew up in West Covina and graduated Covina High in 1990), but we have lived here since 1997.  I have a lot of family though in Ukiah, Willits and Laytonville.  We pass through Lake County a lot on our way to the valley on work.

        • Anonymous

          That’s hilarious. I now live in Riverside and work for the IT department at California Baptist University. My heart belongs to Northern California though as my family is still up there (mostly in Lake County and the Bay Area).

  • Anonymous

    I disabled NFC, never used it.

  • ddevito

    NFC is still in its infancy, give it time. 

    I use it daily. Love it. 

  • Anonymous

    Harris Teeter’s Grocery Store’s in VA and NC (I don’t know where else they may have them) not only have NFC, but they have a little google wallet symbol on the one I live near (Charlottesville, VA). Harris Teeter is a solid grocery store too

  • Anonymous

    : Alright Google – whip Motorola into shape! Make every Moto device next up include the chip. Then it will slowly catch on to the other Android partners before Apple can include it. I’m not sure they’ll put one in the i*hone 5. It’s my feeling that they’ll do it after the next one.

  • DroidTruth

    I remember when everyone on this site made a big deal out of the GNex having NFC as one of the selling points to get one. Now it doesn’t seem like a big lost since it’s not being used the way it was originally envisioned. It’s kinda funny that its more of a “look what my phone can do” type of feature now. Guess NFC won’t sell me into getting a D4 over a GNex. As long as my phone is fast and can use apps I’m happy.

    • Tim242

      PaPass is all over the place. Walmart is the only place I regularly shop that I can’t use my Nexus to pay. Even so, it is still little more than novelty. That being said, debit cards were the same way for a while. “Hey look, I can write a check with this credit card looking thing.”. Just think about what it was like when credit cards first came out. I remember when people used to talk on cell phones in public, to show off, before they were in widespread use.

      • DroidTruth

        Very good point. With that said, it’ll probably be a couple more years until NFC catches on to everyone. And by that time I’ll be eligible for an upgrade which will have NFC as a cell phone standard.

  • Tim242

    As I already said, lack of phones isn’t the issue. There are 10 phones out with NFC. It’s ISIS, and lack of Google Wallet support, due to ISIS. That being said, PayPass is in more places than most people realize
    Walmart is about the only place I shop at regularly that I can’t use my Nexus to pay.
    Let us not forget how Apple operates. They wait until new tech is widespread before adopting it, ie 3G, HSPA +, and soon LTE. I’m not convinced that their next iPhone (iPhone 6) will even have NFC.

  • Anonymous

    iPhone 5 was the 4S – it was the fifth one. Just like the iPhone 3 was the 3GS. The next iPhone will be the iPhone 6. Why do so many use the number 5?

    • Tim242

      I don’t understand why they insist on calling it the 5. I explain it, til my fingers are blue haha

      • patrick

        But you guys, just because the iPhone 4S is the fifth iPhone, that doesn’t make it the iPhone 5. You might not like the way Apple names their devices, but that doesn’t make it illogical or wrong.

        • Tim242

          OK. I will explain this AGAIN. There was no iPhone 2, or iPhone 3. The first iPhone was called iPhone. The 2nd iPhone was the 3G, because it added att. 3G bands, not because of version number. The third iPhone was the 3GS, 3G bands, plus faster processor. The fourth iPhone, was the iPhone 4, because it was the 4th version of the phone…go figure. They elected to call the 5th version, the 4S, due to faster processor. The next version is the 6th. There would be no reason to call it is iPhone 5, as it will not be the 5th version, nor will it have non-existent 5G data bands.

    • You know the future, don’t you?
      The truth is that nobody knows how the next iPhone will be called.

      • Tim242

        The past is the best predicter of the future. OK. I will explain this AGAIN. There was no iPhone 2, or iPhone 3. The first iPhone was called iPhone. The 2nd iPhone was the 3G, because it added att. 3G bands, not because of version number. The third iPhone was the 3GS, 3G bands, plus faster processor. The fourth iPhone, was the iPhone 4, because it was the 4th version of the phone…go figure. They elected to call the 5th version, the 4S, due to faster processor. The next version is the 6th. There would be no reason to call it is iPhone 5, as it will not be the 5th version, nor will it have non-existent 5G data bands.

    • Anonymous

      No – you are wrong. Just because its actually the 6th one does NOT mean it will be called the iPhone 6. They aren’t just going to skip a number, If they considered it the iphone 5 it would have just been called that and not called it the 4S instead. I had the same argument with another guy on another site.

      • nope hes right. how much u want to bet it wont be called iphone 5. that makes no sense. not saying it will be called iphone 6 either but probably iphone 4g or something like that. if u want to talk about skipping numbers they went straight from iPhone to iPhone 3G so they esentially skipped the number 2.

        • Anonymous

          Take my word for it, it will be the iPhone 5, also they didn’t skip a number with the 3G because the number is only referring to the 3G service. and need I remind you this is a site about androids, not apple products.

  • 4geez

    just saying but who really cares if its widely adopted?  if you have it and use it, what does it matter if everyone else is using it?  the paypass stations are in many stores and fast food places.  if the iphone got it, it wouldn’t change anything

  • You know what you don’t need to have NFC in order to make payments with your phone?
    https://www.citibank.com/us/cards/svc/cbna/content/jump-page/pymnt_tagswf/ 

  • Anonymous

    I used mine at Best Buy last night. It was a pretty cool experience and the cashier said that was the second time she has seen someone make a payment with their phone. 

    There is no reason Motorola or HTC shouldn’t have had this chip in all of there latest phones.

    • Anonymous

      Motorola is still trying to figure out how to make a bug-free camera app.  You expect them to attempt NFC??

  • Anonymous

    argh

  • Anonymous

    argh

  • Bob

    NFC is available everywhere where I live.  Verizon is blocking it.  I can’t use it, even if I wanted to.

    • Tim242

      What? I have the Verizon Galaxy Nexus and use Google Wallet every day. A simple apk install is all you need.

  • I have used my free $10 and that’s it, but its really awesome and I love the feature. Which it was used EVERYWHERE but, beyond that meh. I haven’t loaded money as I was worried about it not being officially supported on my verizon phone.

    • Tim242

      I add money with no issue

      • Not worried about adding money, however, if the phone were to crap out somehow and I needed to replace it. The money is lost since Verizon doesn’t want that feature on there and Google does support it on there. Google what I mean as it has happened to multiple people. Part of the risk of using Wallet on a phone that it is not supported on.

        Just note that the wallet is tied to the device, not your google account, primarily.

        • Tim242

          If you know how to clear it before installing a new from, there are zero issues. You have to uninstall before backup. Even when I didn’t know that, a simple uninstall/reinstall of the apk fixed it. I only add funds in $20 or $40 increments, just in case an issue arises. So far, zero issues.

        • ddevito

          the money stays with your Google Account. So if your phone were to crap out, just re-install it and log in

  • Tom

    Why are people worried about security with credit cards? You are ALREADY using the least secure method of payment with the magnetic strip, which is EASILY stolen by a magnetic strip reader in a card swipe terminal (Hint: that is why banks require you to DIP your card into a slot, as a magnetic reader device is harder to place in the right spot on that type of device). If you want to be secure use the smart chip in many of your cards (you know that also use the same tapping thing that NFC does?) as that is better encrypted and cannot be easily copied. If NFC is used properly and is properly encrypted it will EASILY be safer than swiping your card, just as the smart chip is. 

    I personally want to see NFC to be more widely adopted, mainly because metro cards, security passes credit cards can all be encrypted and secured through your phone (similar to how Japan has it set up). So long as you aren’t an idiot and have a way to disable your phone and wipe all the data, it is as safe if not safer than cards. 

  • Brandon

    I’m not sure that I buy that they half-assed the product launch so much as they don’t have the same clout that Apple does in bending others to their will — Apple initially balked when Verizon told them their terms, so by forging their own way and proving they would be a market leader they now have all this extra clout to force others into their way of thinking.

    If I had to pinpoint any one thing to say what stalled NFC for Google it’s that the companies they needed to sway into widespread adoption had their own ideas/inclinations for how it would be run and what their cut was — vis-a-vis we get Isis.

    tl;dr: For as large a force as Google has proven to be they do not have the clout that Apple does. This is unfortunate for consumers.

  • Anonymous

    Introducing iPhone 5s, with iBeam, the new magical and revolutionary way to share what you love with your friends with just a single tap. Thinner, lighter, faster, better, only on the iPhone 5s… the most amazing iPhone yet

  • Anonymous

    Good read:-) i havent been able to use my NFC on my GNex yet, but im not all that excited about it either yet.

  • For all the “lol and Apple fans will think they had it first” types… no, that’s not how they’ll work.  Most of them who even know what NFC is (most people on either side don’t) will probably be concerned more about how well Apple does it than whether it’s there at all.

    The problem with the Android approach, I think, is something inherent to the way Google works: it gives up control to the carriers and OEMs.  That’s why Verizon ends up blocking Google Wallet and why you can get a monster smartphone that still manages to lack NFC.  No one wants to push it forward because of cost or ulterior motives, so they don’t.

    Apple’s “this is the way it will be approach” works beautifully for curing that, because it stops the carrier from being anti-competitive… and unlike, say, HTC or Motorola, it’s not concerned about shaving pennies from the price for the sake of a new feature.  I’d also suspect that Apple can create an ecosystem that people will actually use, such as using NFC to load preferences on to a Mac or sharing info between your iPhone and iPad.

    I’ve used Android Beam exactly once, and while it was easy, it’s like Zune “squirting” – so few people can be trusted to have the right device that the feature might as well not exist.  You need huge chunks of population to sign on for NFC to really click, and one phone here and there on a bunch of OEMs smaller than Apple won’t really do it.

  • Joe Fischer

    My local grocery store which is also my place of employment has pay pass 🙂 I use google wallet all the time to buy food on my lunch breaks all the time. Too bad that is one of the only places I have found that uses NFC.

    • Tim242

      There are tons of places. Download the MasterCard PayPass locator app.

  • Dat

    Like it or not, Android does not have the numbers to demand this kind of clout.  Apple does. Android can win the same way Microsoft does, but lets face it, unless Android comes up with hardware standards for accessorizing and improves single development effort compatibility across devices, Apple will reign supreme for a long time.

    • Tim242

      Android users outnumber iPhone users. Btw, NFC chips are in the Nexus S, Galaxy Nexus, all versions of the.GSII, the Galaxy Note, and several Blackberrys. There are tons of places that have PayPass. Lack of phones is not the holdup for more. It’s carriers not getting ISIS out, and Google Wallet’s limited use because of ISIS.

      • Dat

        True on all counts, but what I mean is there is no unified effort and Google is not good at marketing and pushing for this kind of adoption.  With all the brands you named, none have the clout as an individual manufacturer to push for the adoption and they have not teamed up to make their number count.

        Apple does.  They are a single voice that controls hardware and software and they have the numbers to drive this effort. If Apple pushes it, they will have adoption in a smaller time frame than any of these manufacturers or Google can.  Once that is done, it will just be a feature on phones, but most of the world will think that only Apple can do it at the start gate because, somehow, Google and others will have failed to make that crystal clear that they can, and have been able to this whole time.

        You can blame retailers and what not, but I’d hesitate to get on it too if I were them until I knew there was a significant enough mass of people who will/want to use it before I throw cash into building that ecosystem.  You tell Android users to do something, they won’t necessarily do it.  Call Apple users sheep if you want, but tell them to use it, and they will.

    • ddevito

      I agree with what you said about other things, but NFC is pretty standard across the board.

  • Nice piece

  • Tim242

    First of all, Apple will not call their 6th Gen iPhone, iPhone 5. Secondly, NFC may not be everywhere, but it is pretty widespread. Not sure if phones have anything to do with the adoption rate. I use my Galaxy Nexus to make payments at McDonald”s, Starbucks, Home Depot, Kroger, Kroger Gas, Whole Foods, several local restaurants and gas stations, and even my local liquor store.

  • Anonymous

    I think the MicroSD + NFC cards will help as well.

  • Anonymous

    Screw putting NFC chips in phones, let’s implant it straight into our hands… or even our foreheads!!
    #markofthebeast

    🙂

    • Anonymous

      Some companies have already been pushing that and had some testers actually get credit card payment systems implanted in their skin to use at nightclubs. They had it planted in their forearms.

    • shdowman

      Great. My wife is already wagging a finger about this. Pray she doesn’t read this comment to reinforce that opinion.

      Jerk.

      hehehe

      • Tim242

        So glad I’m Atheist. Being free of such nonsense is pleasant.

  • Anthony Alves

    Most likely.

  • Anonymous

    I agree!

  • The first thing I thought when I read a report that the iPhone 5 might have NFC was “good, maybe then I’ll be able to use it in my Nexus. And then tell the fanboys I’ve had it for months already.”

    • Tim242

      First of all, Apple will not call their 6th Gen iPhone, iPhone 5. Secondly, NFC may not be everywhere, but it is pretty widespread. Not sure if phones have anything to do with the adoption rate. I use my Galaxy Nexus to make payments at McDonald”s, Starbucks, Home Depot, Kroger, Kroger Gas, Whole Foods, several local restaurants and gas stations, and even my local liquor store.

      • Double Poster

        double post much?

      • Yeah, I’ve got none of that so la di da for you. That’s makes my point of it needing to be widespread. Some people have it, most people dont. The iphone will definitely help with this. And why wouldn’t it be called the iphone 5? Why would they break from the naming convention they have followed so far?

        • Tim242

          You should download the MasterCard pay pass app. It will show you where you can use NFC. As far as the iPhone, are you kidding me? They are not following a naming convention. They only have one version named by Gen, the 4. There was no 2 or 3. They called the 2, the 3G for the att 3G bands. They called the 3, the 3GS, for the 3G bands, plus faster processor. They called the 4, the 4 for the 4th Gen of the phone. Going by your logic, the 4 would’ve been the 3. The next iPhone is the 6th.

          • No this is my logic…every time Apple introduces what they would consider a major update they give it a new number. This is supposed to be one of those major updates, therefore this one will at least be an iPhone 5 with possible a letter after it.

          • Tim242

            So, why was there no 2, or 3? As far as Gen numbers, they went from 1, to 4. They called the 5th Gen, the 4S, because of the incremental upgrade. That doesn’t mean they will use 5. Following their own past naming, they don’t use skipped numbers. Again, there was no iPhone 2, or iPhone 3. Going by your logic, they would have called the 4, the 2, or 3.

          • Look, a 5 will be involved in the name of the next iPhone. They started with the iPhone 2_, skipping 1 for whatever reason, maybe because of the network it was on, maybe because iPhone 1 sounds dumb. Whatever, it was, they started with 2_. The next redesign/major upgrade was called the iPhone 3_. After a couple of those, a major upgrade was released, and that was called the iPhone 4_. Now, after a couple more of those, this phone is due to be another redesign/major upgrade. Therefore, it will be the iPhone 5_. If you can’t see the fact that they did go in number order naming phones, then i really don’t know what to tell you.

  • Jer85008

    Honestly, it’s not that hard to pull out my credit card and swipe. Hell, most of the time these days I don’t even have to sign anything. I laughed when the Nexus came out and they were touting Android beam and NFC, as if “everyone” would have a device that would take advantage of it soon.

    Kellex is right about this one though, without the big fruit supporting NFC it will just be another good idea that never really saw it’s potential (at least not for a few more years).

    I think another opportunity would be to get someone like Paypal involved on a much higher level, which could help with the security concerns.

    • Tim242

      First of all, Apple will not call their 6th Gen iPhone, iPhone 5. Secondly, NFC may not be everywhere, but it is pretty widespread. Not sure if phones have anything to do with the adoption rate. I use my Galaxy Nexus to make payments at McDonald”s, Starbucks, Home Depot, Kroger, Kroger Gas, Whole Foods, several local restaurants and gas stations, and even my local liquor store.

  • tjmonkey15

    I agree.  So many people own (and will own) iPhones that companies will pretty much be forced to make NFC stations (or whatever they’re called) more widely available.  Apple would need to advertise the fact that people can pay for stuff with their phones though or else NFC would be wasted. 

    • Tim242

      First of all, Apple will not call their 6th Gen iPhone, iPhone 5. Secondly, NFC may not be everywhere, but it is pretty widespread. Not sure if phones have anything to do with the adoption rate. I use my Galaxy Nexus to make payments at McDonald”s, Starbucks, Home Depot, Kroger, Kroger Gas, Whole Foods, several local restaurants and gas stations, and even my local liquor store.

  • Topsitee

    I disagree, we don’t need Apple or the Iphone we just need it to be available in EVERY android device from here on. I think this is the plan starting with the Nexus but stuff this secure takes time to evolve, which is the reason it is in limited phones basically as a testing period. Google always tests things before them make a big push. They just recently made changes to Andorid where you have to unlock the screen to recognize NFC, they are experimenting before the big push is my guess. Either way I want this technology to take off as well, but saying that we need apple may be a good scapegoat imo.

    • Guest

      If they always test things, they should probably try to test harder 😛

      • Topsitee

        This is a serious matter if they screw up peoples money they will be forever untrusted

  • Guest

    Sounds like a technology wrought with exploitation issues. Not touching it with a 10ft pole.

  • Greg

    Great read… I hate to say it but I agree with you

  • As much as I love Android, I hate that this article is right…

    • Tim242

      First of all, Apple will not call their 6th Gen iPhone, iPhone 5. Secondly, NFC may not be everywhere, but it is pretty widespread. Not sure if phones have anything to do with the adoption rate. I use my Galaxy Nexus to make payments at McDonald”s, Starbucks, Home Depot, Kroger, Kroger Gas, Whole Foods, several local restaurants and gas stations, and even my local liquor store.

    • Loving Android is not the same as hating iPhone. One can love both.

  • Anonymous

    i was thinking this exact same thing when i read the latest rumors about the iphone 5 having it recently.  apple can make or break NFC right now.

    • Tim242

      First of all, Apple will not call their 6th Gen iPhone, iPhone 5. Secondly, NFC may not be everywhere, but it is pretty widespread. Not sure if phones have anything to do with the adoption rate. I use my Galaxy Nexus to make payments at McDonald”s, Starbucks, Home Depot, Kroger, Kroger Gas, Whole Foods, several local restaurants and gas stations, and even my local liquor store.

      • Seriously GTFO

        GTFO

      • Anonymous

        what are they going to call it?  they can’t call it iphone 6.. people would be wondering where the “iphone 5” is.  even if it is the correct generation number.

        and if NFC is widespread now.. i don’t even know what to say.  you’ve gotta be kidding me.  i used NFC on my nexus once to beam something to the only other person i know with NFC on their phone, said cool, and haven’t really even thought about it since.  if apple adopted it, you better believe there’d be NFC popping up everywhere.

        • Tim242

          First of all, there was no iPhone 2, or 3 either. They only have one version named by gen, the 4. The 2nd iPhone was named 3G, for the att 3G bands it added. Nobody said,”where’s the 2? “. As far as NFC, you neglected to comprehend what I typed. It is fairly widespread in payments, not silly beaming.

  • Great post!

  • Barnaby


    but our thoughts immediately go to the one product that none of us care about. Yep, that would be the next iPhone.”

    Careful Kellex, there are some iPhanBoys that troll here

  • Very nice!

  • Vik

    Apple has an extremely effective marketing strategy. It can make you want to use/buy their product easily.

  • Wsnydes

    “The thought of paying for your morning coffee or cab fare without having to dig into your purse or back pocket seemed so game-changing.”
    I’ve never bought into the whole NFC thing because of this very thing.  Unless I’m actually on my phone, I have to reach into my pocket to grab my phone.  So what’s the difference?

    • Grab your phone and touch it to a sensor and you are done.

      or…

      Grab wallet, then card, then swipe, then handle receipts, then sign, touch greasy pen, etc. 😛

      • Wsnydes

        I’m anal, i like to get copies of my receipts.  many places aren’t requiring signatures for purchases less than $25 anyway, so no worries about signing anything.  call me old fashioned, but i’m not so busy and crunched for time that the extra 5 seconds it saves is going to benefit me.  maybe it does to some people, but i’m not one of them.

        • Topsitee

          Google wallet records your purchases and the exact amount/place. If you could use it everywhere it would take all the time of balancing a checkbook out of the day.

        • Anonymous

          google wallet keeps a copy of the transaction. 

          • Wsnydes

            so does my CC, but i still want the paper copy for most things.  i don’t use a debit card.

            i could see myself using it at the ATM per sc0rch3d, but that doesn’t seem any more convenient.

          • Chunk Norris

            Clearly NFC is not for you.

          • Wsnydes

            I’m usually all over stuff like this, but just can’t get into this one.  I’m also in the boat that feels that the fewer places I have account numbers the better.  I’ve had an identity theft scare, so i would avoid something like NFC anyway.  so i’m not trying to rip it or anything.

            i also assume that there will be a time when CC’s will have this feature anyway.

          • Chunk Norris

            Some CC’s already do, so you’re right there, and hey I can relate to not wanting my financial data out and about unnecessarily. 

            I also have a hard time believing that this would take off and garner support without being as secure if not more secure than current methods.

          • Wsnydes

            You’re right, i have seen CC’s that do have it now that i think about it.  many secure buildings have prox readers at the doors that do the same thing and the access cards or fob’s get pretty small.  

            I definitely agree that this would have to be extremely secure in order to garner widespread support.

  • DaveTea

    NFC? They will call it iFC and sue Google over it if its ever adopted for the iPhone.

    • the FCC will be like WTF and then a FFC will take a picture in the courtroom.

  • Anonymous

    Ok, not that I care but…
    iPhone 2G = iPhone 1
    iPhone 3G = iPhone 2
    iPhone 3GS = iPhone 3
    iPhone 4  = iPhone 4
    iPhone 4S = iPhone 5

    Anything after would be 6 or some other name. The next iPhone is not the iPhone 5.

    • you are incorrect sir. making a minor revision to a phone and tacking on and S doesn’t equate to skipping a model number.

      • Anonymous

        While I agree with you, it’s still seen as the next generation model phone, Even in Apple’s own debug code 5,1.

        • Well it depends on how you’re looking at it. i.e. the upcoming iPhone is “the” 6th iphone, or the upcoming iPhone is the 5th in our series.

          • Anonymous

            Its either the 6th or the 4th. Definitely not 5.

          • Hi

            its not called the 5th iPhone it will be called iPhone 5

          • Tim242

            The 4S is the 5th Gen iPhone.By your logic, the 4 would’ve been the 3.

        • Internally it could be referenced whatever they want (like, for example Windows 7’s internal OS version is 6.1), but what it will be named for public is up to the marketing. 

          • Hi

            Whatever bro i’m using Windows Longhorn!!!

      • Anonymous

        Then explain the 3GS. If you don’t count that as a new model number, then why is the 4 not the 3?

        Just saying. I bet they’ll call it the 5 or 4G, but it’s the 6th iPhone

        • because there is no iPhone 1. They started at 2

          • Anonymous

            Doesn’t 2G stand for the fact that it was EDGE and not 3G? 

          • Anonymous

            Correct. 2G as in networks, not generation. 

          • Diablo81588

            Theres no such thing as the iPhone 2G. It was just called the iPhone, which is the first gen model. On that note, the 3G was called as such because it used GSM third gen networks. It has nothing to do with it being the third model. So, lets count.
            iPhone – 1st gen
            iPhone 3G – 2nd gen
            iPhone 3GS – 3rd gen
            iPhone 4 – 4th gen (iPhone 4…4TH GENERATION)
            iPhone 4S – 5th gen iPhone

            The next iPhone will NOT be called the iPhone 5. There is no reason to call the 6th generation number 5. They only called it the iPhone 4 because they had nothing else to name it, so the 4 was 4th gen model. End of story.

            To wrap it up, STOP CALLING IT THE iPhone 5. The 4S IS the 5th gen iPhone. THERE WILL NEVER BE A MODEL CALLED THE iPhone 5!

            /end of rant

          • Wanna bet?
            People will not understand the missing iPhone 5.
            Too confusing.

          • Diablo81588

            So they were confused by the missing iPhone 2?

          • Anonymous

            that’s not apples to apples.. no pun intended.

          • Diablo81588

            Explain to me how thats any different? Why do they have to have an iPhone 5 when there was never an iPhone 2?

          • Because 3G has a simple explanation from a marketing point of view. People wanted iPhone with 3G technology, they got it. iPhone 3G was easier to market than iPhone 2.
            iPhone 6 on the other hand doesn’t mean anything to anybody (except for the question “where the heck is iPhone 5”?).

          • Anonymous

            Where is the iPhone 5 from a marketing standpoint? What does the number 5 mean to anyone other than its the 5th generation, which we all know it is not. I agree that it probably won’t be called the iPhone 6. If I had to guess, I’d say its gonna be iPhone 4GS, but it’s Apple, everything they do rarely makes sense.

          • Yep,iPhone 4G or 4GS is quitepossible, especiallyif it will support LTE.

          • Anonymous

            how this can we get thin post? P.S. why  are we arguing about the numbering of an Apple product that is severely lacking??

          • 3G is not a model/generation number, it’s a cellular technology. Apple simply wasn’t using model numbers for iPhone back then.

          • Anonymous

            Yeah, but Diablo’s point was that if people are too stupid to not understand that the 4S is the 5th, they should have been too stupid to understand the jump from iPhone to iPhone 3G to 3GS.

          • Guest

            From my experience android users are inherently smarter. Just because we question it doesn’t mean an iphone user will. After all…. They’re iphone users and i believe that speaks for its self as to their mental status.. They’ll just understand “ohhh its the next big thing!!!! me wants!” Vs questioning “isn’t it the blah generation…. can they not count” The average iphone user… doesn’t use that much brain capacity. Just sayin..

          • Anonymous

            yeah seriously, there’s no way it’d be the iphone 6 or anything other than the iphone 5.. as long as they stuck with numbers.  i’d bet anything.  you can’t go from iphone 4[xyz] to iphone 6[xyz].  especially now that most people think it’s going to be going #, #s, #2, #2s, … this has kind of been established, however unoffocially.

          • Tim242

            No they didn’t. There was no 2, or 3.

        •  Apple will probably either call it something else, or call it iPhone 6.

      • Tim242

        They will not call their 6th Gen iPhone, the 5th.

    • Anonymous

      thou shalt not question counting methods of the almighty fruit

    • burgerboy

      actually, iphone 2G = iphone 2G. only one you got right was iphone 4 = iphone 4. the iphone 4s was an internal upgrade only so they can call the next one the iphone 5 all they want. iphone 4s = 5th iphone, not iphone 5.

      • Anonymous

        Again, tell that to the Apple Engineers who reference it in IOS as 5,1.

        • Hi

          Great story but the numbers you are referring to are the internal numbers that are used by engineers. There are not used by the corporation as a whole and they are not used in the labeling of models. The next iPhone that is released will be the iPhone 5. If you dig through iOS you will see references to the verizon and at&t being different iPhone numbers yet they are all sold as iPhone 4 or iPhone 4s. In the new betas they list iPhone 8 or 9 which some theorize is just the engineers messing with people who dig through code and pretend they have proof of the next release. Of course you know this already and just wanted to come make a point about iphone5. Why you felt that need when you know better is beyond me. 

      • Tim242

        iPhone 2G = iPhone 1…as in first Gen. Apple has only called one phone thus far by gen. They called it by correct Gen. They will not call their 6th Gen phone, the 5th.

    • Prime7

      They must use the Firefox counting method: 1…2…3…3.2…3.3…3.4…3.41…3.5…6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12.

    • Tim242

      Exactly!

    • at least they aren’t named after wild cats…

    • Bob

      GTA 1 = GTA 1
      GTA 2 = GTA 2
      GTA 3 = GTA 3
      GTA 4 = GTA Vice City
      GTA 5 = San Andreas
      GTA 6 = GTA Liberty City Stories
      GTA 7 = GTA Vice City Stories
      GTA 8 = GTA China Town Wars
      GTA 9 = GTA 4

      • Hi

        haha

    • Peter Kelly

      Unless you can trick the sheep into thinking that the iPhone 4 was 4G capable.  Or even the 4S.  Shoot, I won a case of beer from a fanboy over that exact argument.  In that case (no pun intended),

      iPhone4 = free beer

      • Anonymous

        I still hear people call it the iphone 4g. It’s pretty sad.

      • Anonymous

        News flash fandroid: whatever iPhony you own is not “4G” either:

        http://techwithric.com/4g-speeds-and-why-no-one-has-them

        You’ve been had, aGoat…. Lol

        • TC Infantino

          And like I replied to your post further up the page…Ok, we won’t argue whether LTE is true 4G or not.  We will just pit our actual data speeds against those still on 3g.  I could care less what it is called, it is still damned fast.

    •  Nope…

      iPhone = iPhone 1
      iPhone 3G = iPhone plus 3G
      iPhone 3GS = iPhone 3G plus graphics processing
      iPhone 4 = iPhone 4
      iPhone 4S = iPhone 4 + Siri

    • Zachary Manville

      I wrote a blog about this. Agreed, Glad to see someoneelse noticed.

  • Unfortunately the Android manufacturers do not cater to the end user as much as they do the carrier. As we’ve seen, the carriers are not excited about Google’s NFC as they see it as another potential revenue stream for themselves. Even the very few devices that have NFC capability have been gimped on the software/carrier side.

    In a way, Android’s open nature is screwing us all. It’s become open to the carriers to abuse.

  • Andrew

    I love using NFC. There are a few retailers here in Ohio that I use it with regularly. Paying at the pump with the phone is something I do all the time. I would agree that wider adoption would be fantastic. Tying it to my bank account would be even better.

  • Elliot323

    I don’t care who supports  it, it’ll be a hackers dream to be able to access my bank info through NFC

    • Barnaby

      They’d have to hack your pants to get NEAR your phone. Plus you have the option to turn it off if you wish or when not using it.

      • Wsnydes

        If i have to turn it back on to use it, why bother?  just as easy to grab my wallet.

        • Anonymous

           it is still faster than swiping, and you don’t have to worry about wear and tear either. My card has tons of swiping issues which my Galaxy Nexus does not have lol

        • Barnaby

          Then leave it on, or grab your wallet. To each their own. I said the user has the choice if they are concerned with the security of NFC.

    • Anonymous

      using NFC is a lot better than typing my PIN number on someone else’s ATM or payment system (which could be watched from a bystander or hacked internally). with NFC, it asks me for my PIN on my phone every time.

      the other beauty of the system is the re-loadable google card (which is my preferred method of use). i put 50 bux or so on it instead of linking my bank account card to it

      if i lose 50 bux b/c some guy felt me up….i’m probably in the wrong place to begin with.

      • Guest

        Use card as CC, problem solved.

        • Anonymous

          part of the problem with Google Wallet (unless i’m using it wrong) is the requirement to use a CITI card for CC/Debit transactions.

          • Tim242

            You can use any card to load a Google prepaid card.

  • Jason Purp

    It’s a shame that we really DO need to wait for the new iPhone in order for NFC to be popularized. And I can promise you that the fanboys will act as if it’s something new and amazing.

    The truth is that NFC is like Siri. It’s cool to show off, but it’s a little gimmick. But still, a shame that the iPhone must have it in order for it to be recognized.

    • I agree until the gimmick part. 😛

      I would use NFC all of the time if we could get it adopted in all forms of retail.

      • Anonymous

        Not even just retail… I shouldn’t be using an Access Card for my work building… I should be able to tap my phone for example.

        • Anonymous

          Yep, I’d love to use it for my apartment too. But my biggest wish is to use it in place of my Smartrip card on the Metro/bus.

      • Jason Purp

        Well if that happened, of course it wouldn’t be a gimmick. It’d be very useful. But for now it’s just something that can be used on a select few devices for tasks that can mostly be done within 1 minute or less without the technology, like exchanging contacts and stuff.

        Until a wide range of products start being built with NFC technology, and until a majority of phones have it, I will think of it as a gimmick. Haha

      • Anonymous

        I use Google Wallet all the time and am actually surprised how many places support PayPass around me. Having said that, you can never really get rid of your wallet. What are you doing to do at sit down restaurants, nearly all gas station pumps, ATMs etc? It’s an extra convenience most of the time and that’s about it.

  • DroidzFX

    Apple will probably patent it and say it had it first.

  • Did I just troll my own site? I think I did.

    Just annoyed at new technologies that Android manufacturers can’t see the importance of.

    • Anonymous

      You definitely did Lol… But we all think it… “Unless Apple Adopts this… it isn’t going anywhere” . . . The thing is Apple has always had the upper hand. But it’s the carriers that cause this confusion. Why is it that All Carriers can’t fall behind one payment system like Google Wallet? WHy is it always a competition? I understand at the end of the day it’s all about Getting and Keeping new Users… but Comeee ON! . . . There’s no reason there shouldn’t be ONE payment system that everyone can get behind.

      • Anonymous

        wait til apple puts it in an iphone and uses its own payment system.  they have the carriers by the balls.  they’ll still be arguing amongst themselves while apple is raking it in.

    • It’s also annoying that Apple seems to be the only one who understands what it takes to make new technologies industry standards. Google could have done it. 

      • Like with most products, they half-assed it. 🙁

        • Yep… It’s a bummer. I really wish they would just finish one product before they release it. Not everyone wants to be a beta tester. 

        • Hi

          Glad to see you are finally coming around to reality

      • Anonymous

        Its not necessarily that Apple knows better. Its just that they’ve crafted a brand image over the last decade and a half that now DICTATES industry standards. If they released the iPhone 5 with a chip that can detect the smell of food and ID it like Shazam, every other phone manufacturer would copy them, regardless of how seamingly useless the feature is. Example: Front facing cameras are cool the first time you use them, but after that its just gimmicky. How often do you use your front facing cam to video chat? I’ve had one on my droid 3 since launch and I’ve used it a wopping 1 time. You might argue that it can also take self portraits. Sure, but most likely with an inferior sensor/optics. I’d like the convenience of NFC as well, but like Kellex says, we’ll gonna have to wait for the Jobs camp to do it first.

        Lets not bash Google entirely though. Im still proud that I haven’t paid for the best navigation on any phone since october of 2009. How many iphone users can say that?

        • Hi

          I use FaceTime all the time so it is hardly a gimmick. Ask any parent who travels if it is a gimmick. Ask anyone who lives hundreds of miles from their parents if it is a gimmick. 

          Google Navigation is amazing. However, there are plenty of free navigation apps which accomplish the exact same thing for free in the App Store. 

          • Anonymous

            Pretty sure the rest of the world uses Skype. Being tied down to WiFi for Facetime is pretty weak.

          • Hi

            he said front facing cameras which would include Skype so you are agreeing with me. Thanks. 

            Yes wifi only is not great but Skype and FaceTime over 3G is spotty at best. 

          • 4geez

             well maybe you should go on 4g..

            oh wait, you’re using an iPhone

          • Anonymous

            *giggles at the clueless fandroids who’ve been duped into thinking they have 4G*

            http://techwithric.com/4g-speeds-and-why-no-one-has-them

          • Anonymous

            It sounds like you are just mad (assuming you’re a iPhone user) that you are still stuck on 3G. Call it whatever you would like, but I’m enjoying my 49193kbps speeds over Verizon’s 4G LTE network.

          • TC Infantino

            Ok, we won’t argue whether LTE is true 4G or not.  We will just pit our actual data speeds against those still on 3g.  I could care less what it is called, it is still damned fast.

          •  Until the battery goes dead. Droids are seriously lacking. All the whiz-bang garbage and lack of refined LTE chipsets drain the batteries in no time. After using my iPhone all the time, it still hasn’t run dead by the end of the day. When Apple ships LTE this summer, I guarantee it won’t drain batteries when in 4G, unlike those Droids do.

          • Balls

            my nexus lasts all day, and when i pass out at night i wake up with my phone sitting at 35%

          • TC Infantino

            Ahh, you want to compare 3g battery life to 3g battery life?  My OG Droid would last all day and night on one charge.  So if or when the iphone comes out with 4g then lets talk.  Oh and the OG Droid at 2 years old could still do things that the iphone couldn’t.  And also now that I have rooted and ROM’d the Rezound, the battery life lasts me quite a while.  It also has a larger HD screen, more memory, and is completely customizable since it was easily rooted.

          •  What’s amazing is that when iPhone 5 ships with 4G, it won’t drain your battery like those wannabe Droids do. That, I can guarantee…

          • TC Infantino

            What is amazing is that you are able to see into the future.  Wow, I wish I could do that!  

          • Skype is just fine over 3G, even when it’s a slow Verizon 3G. Over HSPA it should be really good.

          • Video calls are certainly great, but having FaceTime being limited to Apple devices only makes it seriously handicapped. Communication tools should be cross-platform, only then they’ll win.Every Apple-specific technology is bound to have a limited audience. 

            As for the use of the phone front camera, I don’t use it much, although I’m using video calls (Skype) quite often. I’m mostly using a front camera of my tablet or laptop, simply because of a screen size and convenience of the stand. I very rarely video-calling on the run so I have to use my phone for that.

            As for the free iOS alternatives to Google Maps, they all serviceable, but they by far not as good as Google Maps/Navigation.

          • Anonymous

            What’s an iPhone owner doing on a Droid board? Defending your overpriced glass and brushed aluminum? Kidding. Sorta.

            Listen, I dig that certain people will use Facetime, or whatever other app(s) (present or future) for video chatting. Sure it can be useful for traveling parents, provided they and their spawn own devices with front facing cameras, and know how to use the hard/software. I’m sure there are a number of other areas where video chatting has been useful, but my argument is that its a very small portion of the overall target demographic and user experience.

            a. How many front-facing-camera owners are parents who travel?
            b. How often do they travel?
            c. How often do they feel compelled to video chat with their spawn?
            d. How often are they near a wifi hotspot?
            e. How often are the spawn available to chat?
            f. How often are the spawn willing to chat instead of sexting their middle-school friends or tweeting about how they pwned someone on MW3?

            % A x B x C x D x E x F = very little facetiming. So little in fact that I’m insulted every time there’s a 30-second prime-time TV spot dedicated to this one feature. On a list of impressive handset specs it’s a bullet point at best. The bullet point shouldn’t even be italicized or in bold.

            You might argue that its a revolutionary feature for the iPhone. Yea, so was copy & paste at one point. I didn’t see any 30-second ads highlighting that though.

            Video chatting never took off on land-lines in the 90’s because it was awkward and somewhat unnecessary. Although image quality even on mobile devices is far better than anything that ever went through a land line, an element of that awkwardness still lingers. I don’t want to have to get dolled-up every time I video skype or facetime. Therefore, I don’t do it nearly as often as I could. I’m sure a majority of the population feels the same way.

        • Anonymous

          Android totally rapes iOS as far as navigation goes…google clearly doesn’t want to help apple in that regard…However I think apple will finally ditch google maps with iOS 6 and the iPhone 5(6?) launch…

          •  Google’s navigation is great for a free product, but not all that good compared to some products on the App Store. I have Motion-X, and it was free, complete with turn-by-turn navigation. It smokes Google Maps with Navigation.

          • ddevito

            how so?

            And is it FULLY integrated in iOS like GMaps is on Android?

            No – we didn’t think so. Take a hike iSheep. Go back to the meadow

        • TC Infantino

          Uh, actually I use mine all the time for Skype with my friends.  I am former military and have lived in quite a few states and have friends scattered all over.  Having that front facing camera is great, and yes even though it is only 2mg it still takes decent enough self portraits to send in an email or MMS.

      • Thelegendofdavid

        Not true. Look at bluray. People were writing that bad boy off and now look at it. Apple is a fool of a company for thinking that digital is the only way to go. They dont understand how to make new technology standard.

        •  Really? History tells a different story.

    • And the best part of it all is that apple will hold rights to it like they invented it. also, everyone is going to come up to me and say “OMG did you see what the iphone could do?” and i’ll just not say anything back to them. Because if i said “My Nexus can already do that” they’d just look back confused and continue gushing about crap apple advertised better than everyone else.

      • Czechm8

        There is no greater force than an upset Apple sheep herd!  And yes, there will be a lawsuit brought on by apple since Jobs envisioned NFC in 1976 in his garage!
        Google could certainly learn a thing or three about Apple’s marketing efforts.

        • Hi

          Apple did not and will not try to patten NFC because that is a technology. Just like Apple doesn’t try to patent wifi or 3g or mp3 or webkit or batteries or anything else which they did not develop. They patent things which they develop and which they spent time and effort on. They are one of the companies pushing HTML5 and you don’t see them trying to patent that. You people really need a new internet meme to go on and on about. 

          • df2rools

            all i heard was “Maah Maaah”

          • Guest

            you mad bro?

          • Anonymous

            yeah no he is totally right, l mean they don’t try to patent things that are simple software technology like clicking on an phone number and having that open to the phone application, only things they figured out that no one else could have ever conceived before them

          • TC Infantino

            No, they would never patent anything that they didn’t develop…like a phone that is basically rectangular with rounded corners.  They would never do that.  Not at all.  Gah…iSheep really are annoying.

          •  As an Apple fan, I have to disagree. They’ve, sadly, gone down a dark path. Apple has patented pretty simple things that shouldn’t be patentable at all. Apple is very innovative. However, keeping innovation away through patent litigation is just wrong.

          • Phanboyfodder

            the iphone 4s basically copied 5 features of android and put them on their phone to make it a 4s, that’s very innovative to completely rip off competitors ideas and make it their own.

        • Phanboyfodder

          Steve jobs dream book that he had hand written in every morning from when he woke up since the 60’s. That has every idea he has dreamed of and imagined.  With blank spaces on the page to fill in “his ideas” at a “later” time that apple patent lawyers use to prove in all their cases.

      • Wilm8008is

        wooooooow… couldnt have said it any better.

    • palomosan

      Kellex I have to agree with your article but that’s reality, I wondered if it’s because when Apple makes a move, they make sure that they have a lot of companies behind them.

      I think the problem with Android, it’s too many manufacturers doing different phones and each company wants to do their own thing and have a finger print on their product.

      I think that for Android to take next step, certain things have to change, they already started by making the theme on ICS standard on all future ICS phones but only time will tell.

    • Hi

      And here in lies the problem with “open”. There is no incentive for the individual manufactures to push NFC unless all the others agree to push it as well. Apple is a single entity so when they believe in something they can push it and the 100 million people who buy their new products will all receive it. Why would Motorola risk pushing NFC and then have Samsung, HTC and Apple all adopt a slightly different technology? As much as the communist Android community loves “open” and “choice” there are negative aspects and a unified group of users is one of those negatives. 

      p.s. the communist part is a joke

    • I think I have said it to myself many times in recent months — I no longer have the energy to blame the handset makers. Instead I will put the blame right back to Google. Sorry, as much as I love Android, Google really sucks at bringing their vision to reality. It’s clear that they want to make NFC the next cool thing, but they simply have no clue how to bring it to the market. Damn, all they need to do is to require all handset shipped with Gingerbread to have NFC. That’s it. Oh, remember what they used to say they can make a sticker for phones that doesn’t equipped with NFC to get NFC? 1 year and a couple month later, we still haven’t seen it. The thing is, even many of the new Android phones that are due to ship in the next couple months won’t have NFC. In fact, some of them might actually ship with ICS and I bet we are still going to see NFC on them.

      At the end of it, all I can see is, Google has the vision to see NFC being used in many ways in real world, but they simply don’t have a plan to bring it to the real world. So, you are probably right — Apple actually kicks start the NFC adoption rate in the Android world.