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LG V20 REVIEW

I know this LG V20 review should have been out months ago, but hey, better late than never, right? Actually, as you’ll find out in the video below, the V20 has just been one of the tougher phones to review. It’s not that LG hasn’t done some good things here, it’s just that the V20 comes off as such a niche device with a small audience that the approach to reviewing it had to be figured out too. Either way, it’s here, our LG V20 review. 

You may be asking, “What’s so weird about the V20?” Well, after spending time with it off and on over the past few months, I just don’t get the feeling that this is a phone for everyone. This is a phone for people who like enormous phones that are enormous for the sake of being enormous. This is a phone for the serious audiophile who needs a Quad DAC in a smartphone. This is for the pro creator who needs manual controls in the camera or the guy who swaps batteries at least once a day.

What I don’t think the V20 is, is the best overall phone that gets the basics right that will make the majority of us happy. I’m talking about having great cameras, a great design, manageable size, the best software, and a reasonable price. Now, don’t get me wrong about the price. LG likely had to price the V20 where it did because they included a DAC, HiFi video and audio recording, and dual cameras. Unfortunately, it becomes a tough recommendation because Google’s Pixel phones, Samsung’s Galaxy S7 line, and the OnePlus 3T are all slightly cheaper and better in the key categories.

We’ll dive deeper into all of that in the video below.

On a related note, V20 owners, we get it, you love your V20. I think that’s awesome even if this isn’t the phone for the majority of us because the best part of Android has always been choice. Own that V20 proudly.

  • martesque

    I was sitting with the S7 Edge at checkout, when a few people in the Sprint store said the V20 was a better phone. I asked them to convince me and they did. I won’t readdress all the other points, but my biggest concern was the size. I do have smaller hands, but the phone fits nicely. And while I can answer calls with one hand – it may save my life in the car someday realizing I can’t unlock it while driving! I like pictures and consider myself an audiophile, and despite preference to specific cameras and audio players, I’m very happy having these capabilities on the phone. As for looks, it reminds me of the sleek, all-business demeanor of the Blackberry Z10. Not for everyone….

  • Boomdizzle

    The production quality if this video is pretty awesome. Nice work.

  • hkklife

    I just upgraded last month from a V10 to a V20, having previously had a Note 4 and Note 3.

    If the Note 7 had remained on the market with no issues, I would have been torn between it and the V20.

    The V20 is a big leap ahead of the V10 in speed and a decent leap in camera quality & battery life. It works better as a phone as well. The biggest selling point for me was that it was potentially the last/only device to have a large screen, Nougat out of the box, removable battery, expandable storage, and 3.5mm headphone jack.

    That said, it’s far from perfect. The camera is definitely an improvement over the V10 but still leaves a lot to be desired next to the Pixel, iPhone or especially the Samsungs (I still “prefer” Samsung’s camera output & app over anything else). The V20 camera is often slow to launch, slow to focus and slow to fire.

    The audio output is phenomenal, even on my Shure and Sennheiser headphones. Do I personally need the DAC? No, but it’s nice that it’s there. But I’d rather have Qi. Do I need all of the camera manual controls? No but it’s nice that they are there but I’d rather have a better Auto mode & faster shutter.. Do I need the Second Screen? No but it’s nice that it’s there but I’d rather have a 6″ AMOLED screen.

    Basically, the removable battery remains LG’s calling card feature. Everything else is nice but by no means a must-have. Let the G6 go to a internal battery if necessary but leave the V lineup for the power users but make sure all aspects are up to par.

    I preferred the physical design and cosmetics of the V10, sure, but that is secondary. The V20 is too dang slippery (agree with Kellex 100% there) but it’s by no means ugly. And why does every LG charge more slowly than the equivalent Samsung product?

    • Oscar Cavail

      My V20 with Qualcomm QC 3.0 charges way faster than any previous phone ever. I bailed on the no removal battery Notes so I can’t comment on that. Actually the V20 recharges so quickly that I rarely if ever go to my spare battery during the day. It’s really only for cycling purposes at this point. I don’t like wearing out a battery sooner by using it two days in a row.

  • teejayw28 .

    Who has headphones that will be able to tell the difference with the dac? I do and i also can enjoy this in my vehicle or hook to my stereo . It clearly sounds better . just sayin….

  • cooldoods

    I loved my V10 so much after I dropped my Galaxy Note 3 and the Note 5 didn’t have a removable battery nor microSD card support. Then when the V20 came out I was looking to upgrade but since the changes from the V10 weren’t all that much I have decided to wait one more year. It’s not that the V20 isn’t great but rather the V10 which started the series is really that awesome. Removable battery, microSD slot, SecondScreen, quick charging, great cameras, hi-fi DAC, manual photo and video controls, IR blaster, leaner but very customizable and more intuitive UI and launcher, frequent firmware updates, love the placement of the volume and power controls at the back which leaves the front and sides of the device free of buttons, even has a built-in FM radio. Plus dual-SIM support in the model that’s available in my region.

    • Oscar Cavail

      Black Friday on Verizon was for a FREE v20 if you traded in a used V10. No Brainer.

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  • Phil

    Let me just add this reviwer of phones doesnt even know a hole in the ground when he/she sees one. The LV20 the same price as the pixel xl, what crack is this reviewer 🚬😈👿

  • northrode

    The review seems pretty fair and balanced. He weighs the pros and cons of keeping the removable battery, for example. And while I prefer having the removable battery, I rarely removed mine when I had a phone with one. Personally if asked to choose between a removable battery or longer battery life, I would choose to have longer battery life. I think that is the calculation most of these carriers make.

    If i needed a phone now and the V20 were available at a good price, I would take it. I know its a good phone. That being said, I see his other points. I understand the appeal of Samsungs Galaxy S line and Apples Iphones. Great all rounders. The Pixel phone is another example of this. Simple but great point to shoot cameras that will appeal to most consumers. As for the V20, ost consumers will not care about the DAC or the other perks that made it so pricey.

  • Oscar Cavail

    For an Android power user anything else out now is an expensive downgrade. If you’re not an Android power user fine… go overpay for an iPhone or Pixel. If you’re not a power user at all get the LG Stylo 2 on Boost mobile for $75 and no contract. It’s like the budget V20. You can’t even buy a flip phone for that kind of money. Why anyone who isn’t a power user is spending 7, 8 or 10x’s that price for an iPhone 7 or Pixel is beyond nonsensical. Don’t get me wrong I like a zippy phone like the Pixel but a phone with a fixed battery after Note 7-gate and no expandable storage now that we downloads for YouTube Red and Netflix is a straight deal breaker for me.

  • wtsamatta

    jeez.. make me feel like I’m some kinda weirdo cause I got one… don’t really think they had “everybody” in mind when they designed this phone. Then to make it out to be a detractor cause they built if with a different group of people in mind other than yourself.. smh.. There are some good legitimate points in the article that I agree with.. but overall, it’s a really nice phone.

  • Will

    This writer is stupid to put it kindly. How can anyone let him critique a smartphone? Obviously he must own a iPhone.

    • Phil

      Lol was beginning to think I was the only person who disagreed with the writer. Apparently not😛

  • Rod

    That’s a horrid looking phone.

    V10 looked way better.

    • Would tend to agree, the V10 was a phone I enjoyed much more than the V20.

      • Rod

        You’ve just broke neutrality by displaying bias. RIP DL!!!!1111oneone

  • Seán Mikha’el Field

    I think today is the last day for visiting this site. You continuously bash a great product in favour of the flavour of the marketing day. We need people who have unbiased opinions to give us reviews. I owned a S3 the day it came out and it had a guess what? A removable battery. Awesome phone. Then Samsung started playing the marketing game vs Apple and sites like this have been living in that ethos ever since. I got rid of the S3 for a variety of phones since then and landed on the Nexus 5. Brilliant phone plagued by…poor battery life. So when the battery died (after replacing it once for a bad on/off switch) I got the LG G5. Why? Removable battery! I don’t like being tethered to a cord or the inevitable question when out. Do you have a charger? That phone I still own. And I just got the V20. Amazing device! No I don’t like large phones but this one I can work with. I spent a few months with an S7 edge. Ooooh. It has a nice screen….And also gets ridiculously hot within 30mins of use! So I stayed away. Why? Same issue as the S3 from way back when! So yeh, Samsung has serious battery issues. Yet you guys still push their devices. You just glossed over the exploding battery issue. Now you want to push a non SD card pixel on me for pretty photos?!? LG G5 = Pixel. LG V20 = Pixel XL. Let’s call oranges oranges, leave apples to Cupertino and be real about giving advise to people spending their hard earned money….And of course you guys won’t reply to this. Too harsh?

    • vOc627

      Opinions and perspectives don’t equate to bashing. You should be pleased you found a device that fits your needs and not seek affirmation elsewhere.

      • Seán Mikha’el Field

        I definitely don’t need affirmation but to those who aren’t knowledgeable come to sites like this for understanding. When opinion is biased and perspective is skewed then it’s a waste of everyone’s time. No? Or are you one of the above mentioned in my post?

        • vOc627

          People who are seeking advice have multiple sources they can site. Like seeking a second or third opinion from a doctor.

          • Seán Mikha’el Field

            And that’s the issue with the popular sites. Take the LG G5 for example. It got raked over the coals for poor build quality and the friends module. That was it. The phone couldn’t get sales going because sites like this destroyed it. It’s an amazing phone. I value opinions. 1st, 2nd, 3rd and elsewhere but I cannot in this day and age allow more biased ones to go unchecked. The manufacturers know they can use them to their advantage. It doesn’t help the consumer. It helps the shareholders.

          • needa

            LG hasn’t been able to get sales going for years. You blame the tech sites. I blame the phones and people’s perception of what is ‘cool’.

          • Seán Mikha’el Field

            People’s perceptions are based on subconscious behavioural patterns which are being influenced from a barrage of marketing. Advertising has used psychology to influence you into liking Life cereal because Mikey likes it, or wheaties to be like mike. The list goes on. You think cell phones are any different. Has nothing to do with the actual phone and more to do with ad spend during your favourite TV show.

          • needa

            Isn’t that what I said?

          • Seán Mikha’el Field

            Yes but no. You added the phone to the issue. I would leave it at perceptions. The phones are fine.

          • Guest

            >The phone couldn’t get sales going because sites like this destroyed it.

            LG regional sales and marketing teams decide not to sell the device in Europe as of yet

            That certainly would help sales

            A large OEM internal decisions beholden to South Korean shareholders are to blame

          • Seán Mikha’el Field

            While not selling in Europe is a problem, I doubt that’s the issue for poor sales in the united states….

          • Robert L

            Dude – their marketing just isn’t cutting it. The brand isn’t “in” as a phone brand and selling niche phones will never get them there. Period. Removable batteries or not. If they can stay profitable by making nerdy-ass phones, then so be it. People like you will continue to be happy as they churn out transformer phones with removable batteries and the like. But their sales are going to continue to suck harry balsaq.

          • Seán Mikha’el Field

            That’s the thing with being a sheep. You follow the heard. So Samsung followed Apple with the marketing trend. Good for them. Now they have to combat an exploding phone. But you’ll wait til the next one comes out like this site (which wouldn’t dare put out a late review of the latest SWhatever) and then fawn over it like it’s the first time you saw gold. One+ hasn’t, yet it’s a good phone, so their sales suck and they should just chuck it in favour of Samsung. And neither the G5 or V20 are niche considering a couple years ago Samsung had removable batteries.

            History is there to learn from. People like you should do research. Like serious research. Remember the Treo when everyone was Nokia loving. Why have a touchscreen phone was the call of the day, now look at us….Oh and where is Nokia & Blackberry in the smartphone world now?

    • Rod

      Not everyone likes removable batteries.

      I, for one, prefer the Nexus 5 way. It’s removable, but not on the go.

      • Seán Mikha’el Field

        I loved my Nexus 5. Just gave it to one of my friends and he swapped the battery and got life back into it. Still doesn’t help the battery life. But at least it’s still working. I just prefer to have a phone that doesn’t need charging within 3 hours of using it.

        • Rod

          I still use mine, replaced the battery twice. It goes on for 12 hours with medium usage. If I need more, I alway take my Anker power bank with me. Floats my boat, lol.

          • Seán Mikha’el Field

            I had a power bank but it’s too much at times to walk around with. I prefer to just have my phone. Still miss the Nexus 5 tho. Great device.

    • While I’m glad you are enjoying the phone, think about what you just said and you can basically apply it to yourself. You somehow came to the conclusion that I’m biased, someone who was sent the phone by the company for a period of time for an objective review, which I then shared. You on the other hand, personally invested your own money in this product and are much more likely to have a bias than I am. You need to justify your purchase, and I get that you would want to do that. But it’s clear that you are so passionate about this phone that you aren’t willing to hear criticism of it, thus have decided that the only possible reason a person could not be a fan, is that they are biased. Like, really? That’s the the default end?

      What’s better, is that, I think it’s obvious from reading all of the impassioned V20 owners who can’t even begin to comprehend my logic, are now coming up with anything they can to try and discredit what I said, like I’m bias, or only listening to the marketing flavor of the day, etc. When I actually look at it as a differing opinion, one who hasn’t just fallen in line with the rest of the reviewers who all want to call it the “most underrated” or best phone. And differing opinions, believe it or not, make for better products in the end. They make for better communities, better conversations, better futures.

      You can disagree with me. In fact, disagreeing with me is a good thing. But because my view of this phone is different than yours, I’m the problem? I think we all need to look in the mirror a bit today.

      As for the Note 7 recall, well we wrote at least 30 articles about it. So if you consider that “glossed over,” it is what it is.

      • Seán Mikha’el Field

        The problem here isn’t me being passionate about the phone. I’ve had it for 2 weeks. That hardly qualifies. Instead the issue is I’ve been coming to your site from day one and I’ve noticed a slant towards Samsung devices. The unbiased opinions aren’t really helping people. You, along with other sites destroyed the G5 for build quality. I mean seriously. And laughed off the friends module but hardly mentioned how important a swappable battery on a smartphone in 2016/17 is. This caused many to mention poor sales of the G5. I wonder why it had poor sales? Sites like this bashing a damn good phone. I sat with the G5, S7 and S7 edge and yeh I got better battery life but when it was needed I had to find a charger vs swapping out a battery. That cannot be beat. And I’m glad you responded because I was starting to think that differing opinions to this one would get trashed or not responded to.

        In the two weeks since having the phone I’ve been able to root the device easily (even on a Mac, yes I’m an apple with who dislikes the iPhone). I’ve taken amazing photos. And the best part, I’ve had great call quality!

        We live in a world where marketing dollars can influence our subconscious. I only ask that you guys be completely transparent. Do much more due diligence (your audience is worldwide, not just in America) and produce reviews that truly speak to the devices you have in hand and not wait months to review it (while being busy) and then throw it under the bus. I had the Pixel for a month too but no SD card? The writing is on the wall. Android is open source, which to me means the ability to make it what you want. When you try to sell me on a waterproof phone without an SD card and a need for me to buy portable chargers then you’re not trying to get me to the “best” possible device, you’re instead influencing the subconscious of persons who don’t know any better.

        And you wrote the articles after it happened while we all knew it was an issue and at first not wanting to believe it. Let’s call a spade a spade so we can all agree the deck is rigged.

        • Guest

          I get what you are saying but a few things

          >You, along with other sites destroyed the G5 for build quality.

          Search on Youtube (Google) and type in LG G5 build quality
          First few results should have a link to JerryRigEverything video or Erica Griffen (it depends)

          What the dude/LG spokesman
          said in the comments of JerryRigEverything video was it wasn’t paint on the LG G5
          Now re read LG G5 press release from March/April 2016 “All metal unibody”
          The other build quality issues light bleed
          the module battery cover
          etcera

          How about how when LG and Bang & Olufsen didn’t have any modules (DAC) ready at launch and cancelled the headphones

          It is LG Marketing department of their lack of nuance that is the problem

          The LG V20 was announced when?

          When was it in store shelves

          It could have been the first phone to launch with nougat
          Expect the Pixel was announced and in the hands of users before

          Where on earth are the LG sales marketing teams?

          Why aren’t they launching devices in parts of Europe?

          >Do much more due diligence (your audience is worldwide, not just in America)

          Given the amount of interaction on any Verizon wireless article that depends

          Most of DL readers answered in a poll that Whatsapp usage isn’t that high

          http://www.droid-life.com/2015/04/14/tuesday-poll-do-you-use-whatsapp/

          • Seán Mikha’el Field

            Build quality has always made me laugh when discussing this device. Take it over the coals because you can’t decide if it’s painted or real metal. The build quality isn’t why people by phones. Phones with glass backs had great build quality but also broker easily. Older Samsung phones were made completely of plastic, yet sold no problem.

            Light bleed is a problem for Samsung devices as well. No? Because my S5 has a huge keyboard light bleed going on for a while now.

            There is no problem with the battery cover. Don’t know what that’s about. Saw a guy complain because he could see a line where the battery would be removed. Are we serious…

            I can’t speak on the modules because that’s not why I bought the phone. I wasn’t desperately waiting for the “friends” to show up so I can say ooh look at my cool phone.

            As for when it showed up, it was on the market before the pixel. You just discredit Korea as a market because if it’s not USA then it doesn’t count. Guess that’s why not one single smartphone is manufactured in the states…

            Considering it beat Google to launch with Nougat, I’d say they did a great job, no?

            Now as for sales and marketing teams and the Europe non launch I’d have to ask them the same. They may know something others don’t or not care about that territory. Can’t speak on it. But certainly not crying over it for a device that’s great.

            As for the 1800 or so DL readers who don’t use WhatsApp (I remember when DL didn’t even want to discuss it as they never used it and their network of people didn’t either) doesn’t discredit that there’s a whole host of people who read DL but not comment who I’m sure use WhatsApp regularly. It’s global usage is massive. Just ask Brazil.

            The world in terms of android and tech on a whole is bigger that the US. Yet we’re innundated with websites giving us a one sided perspective.

        • It’s obvious at this point you won’t be convinced to believe that we aren’t biased and influenced from marketing dollars, I get it. I take that personally as you are questioning my word and I’m not about to try and prove it further. Because that’s both insulting and a waste of my time.

          We write objective reviews of products and have for 7 years. We take them seriously. We don’t hold back if there is something we don’t like. We don’t sugarcoat shit. We also often don’t share the same opinions of products as those who personally invest in them. If people disagree, which if you read through all of the other comments here would realize, we are fully involved and accept feedback. That’s a part of how this all works.

          But again, you think we’re biased, not transparent in how we do things, and are influenced by some other means to help justify the fact that we don’t see the V20 in the same light as you. That’s, frankly, sad. Have a great day. Enjoy your removable battery.

        • steadymobb

          The G5 sucks

          • Seán Mikha’el Field

            Wow there’s a statement that has supportive elements. Why oh why didn’t I just listen to that. So intellectual. Side eye.

          • Guest

            You mad bro?

          • Seán Mikha’el Field

            No, I’m not 16. Just prefer non-biased opinions and intelligent people.

      • Oscar Cavail

        The entire premise of your argument is that the V20 is hard to categorize which is frankly silly. It competes with other flagship phablets. Are you confused about the point of an iPhone 7 Plus, or Pixel XL?

    • Harry Balsaq

      Yep this site shills for everything Apple or Samsung.

      • Guest

        Forgot the sarcasm tag

        • Typing this from my Mac Pro. God I love Apple so much.

          • Phil

            To bad they/Apple dont have a Mac pro with a good enough graphics card for VR. Expensive garbadge😝

  • Me

    Sprint was running this phone for $400 over the weekend. Pretty nice deal at that price. Doesn’t feel as premium as S7E/10/Pixel tho IMO.

    • That is a solid deal for Sprint customers

  • Jon

    Buyer beware. I’m sitting in a hotel room in Rome as I write this. We are on vacation. My wife has an S7 edge and I have the LG V20. All day today we were out and about with our phones taking an equal amount of photos, videos and using Google Maps and such. My phone’s battery began to die around 11:30 AM. I had to plug into external battery. My wife’s was still at 57% battery life! So then im charging up for hours and unplug again. My wife topped off for 15 min at a coffee shop in quick charge. Again at 5PM my phone battery is nearing dead while my wife’s Samsung is doing just fine on battery life.

    The wide angle camera on the LG V20 is great all day. But her photos just are getting consistently better exposure. At night her photos are better period.

    Also my V20 just had always been a sluggish phone. My previous S7 edge and Note 7 were not this slow.

    Don’t buy the LG V20. Can’t wait to go back to a Samsung wich hopefully will by then have a wide angle camera which is the only redeeming thing about the V20.

    • Oh boy, I don’t think you know what you’ve just unleashed upon yourself. 😛

    • Mike

      Everything you’re saying disagrees with almost every review I’ve seen other than the auto camera mode. Either you have a bad unit or a bad app installed, either way telling people not to buy this phone from three paragraphs without actual evidence is laughable.

    • Tony’s Texas Hots

      You’re strongly advising people not to buy the phone as a result of one bad experience?
      Okay, let me counter. My V20 has been nothing short of excellent. It’s fast (especially when you play with developer options), the camera is great (although admittedly not quite as great as my old Note7), the battery life has been terrific, and the 2nd screen is increasingly more useful for me. Based on that, I would heartily recommend the V20 to anyone looking for an oversized phone.
      As Mike said in response to your comment, you’ve probably got a bad unit or bad app chewing up your battery.

      • Jon

        Jesus dude do you want me to annotate the entire past months since launch of the phone to you on Droid-Life? Trust me…this phone has sucked from the beginning. Above is just a taste of why. I, unlike most people go through a lot of different phones cause I love tech. I know what in the hell I’m talking about. This ain’t my first pony.

      • Phil

        Agreed it happens.

    • Harry Balsaq

      you V20 won’t explode and you can replace the battery.

      • LaFave07

        But it could bootloop 🙂

        • pacnwsoundstream

          Came here to say this.
          thank you. I have 3 g4’s on my accound all have been replaced twice one just got replaced for the 3rd time.I love the phone but god dammit.

          • LaFave07

            Damn, you have more patience than I would with that phone. That b*tch would be sold as soon as I got a replacement.

    • Hidalgo Nuñez

      You write that whole spiel and you haven’t even attempted to see what’s draining your battery. Ugh…
      The V20 is a stellar phone. Sadly, it doesn’t shine as well as it could in the hands of simpletons. 10 minutes of tweaking and any functional complaints are resolved.

      • LaFave07

        And your work around is yet just another reason most people shouldn’t buy this phone. Not everybody wants to investigate why their phone’s battery is lousy. They shouldn’t have to.

        • Hidalgo Nuñez

          What work around? All androids are subject to mysterious drain from some app fttt. It happens. My battery life is very good. What an idiotic comment from you…I guess you are one of the ones I was referring to…

          • LaFave07

            Lol funny, never had a problem with my S7.

          • Hidalgo Nuñez

            Well that’s very conclusive…phht. The S7 is a great phone. I’ve had issues with many phones, mostly resolvable. No problems yet with the V20, best phone I’ve had.

          • LaFave07

            Glad it works for you, really.

        • Jon

          And life is not in an LG V20 vacuum. I use all the same apps on any phone, on the same network. I know what to expect out of my damn phones and when something is not right. I know how to tinker but am so over it and shouldn’t have to. This is 2017 folks. These crappy experiences are just not defensible anymore.

      • Jon

        That is your bad assumption. I constantly kept pressing the recents button and closing all open apps to make sure something weird wasn’t running. No help. Battery life still sucked. All things being equal, on the same network, my wife’s phone served its basic function faithfully while mine failed.

        “…simpletons.”
        “10 min of tweaking….”

        You know not of what you speak…clearly. But I won’t stoop to name calling as you have. A great phone needs no tweaking to just be reliable and work. Your positive experience is not negated by my negative experience. My negative experience is not any less valid just because you love your phone.

        Let’s be reasonable here folks.

    • RoninX

      Honestly, the only two negatives I have noticed about my V20 are that taking video seems to drain the battery quickly (but nothing else does) and the low-light photo quality isn’t that good (at least with the default settings, though that could probably be tweaked). If those are your top priorities, then maybe the V20 isn’t right for you.

      On the other hand, having previously owned an S7 Edge, Note 5, and Note 3, the audio quality of the V20 is vastly superior. That’s not to say that the Samsung phones were bad, just that the V20 is outstanding. Battery life in general is good (web surfing, listening to music, watching video, navigating using GPS), though not quite as good as the Note. Recording video seems to be the only problem there. And, of course, you can always swap out the battery.

      And as I mentioned above, I can’t stand the accidental edge touches I experienced using the S7 Edge, and now Samsung is putting the curved screen on all of their flagship phones. That’s the only thing that stopped me from getting a Note 7 when it came out, though in retrospect, I’m very glad it did.

    • Carlos Reyes

      I don’t know why, but I am having the same issue as you are. My wife has the S7 and her battery life is insane compared to my V20. I might do a full system wipe and start fresh, hopefully is just some random stuff killing my battery life.

    • Oscar Cavail

      This is funny because I travel quiet a bit myself. With a QuickCharge 3.0 power bank like the very slim 10k mAh Anker PowerCore+($40 Amazon) and a spare battery ($20 Ebay) I can have all my settings on full blast, 4G LTE stream all I want on full brightness and never go anywhere near a wall outlet…. Ever. That’s good for 24 hours of continuous screen on time of VERY HEAVY power usage. And I still get to keep full manual camera and video controls, the quad DAC, an easier way to upgrade the battery in 8 months, Nougat 7.0 smoothness on day one without TouchWiz bloatware.

    • Nick281051

      I have to agree with you on most of your points, the wide angle lense is great, and the main lense is capable of some fantstic shots and the quad DAC is fantastic but all in all with the battery issues I and my dad have had (the battery sometimes will suddenly lose 20% battery or more in minutes), general software instability, and overall changes to nougat are not really that great are reasons why I generally dislike using this phone on a daily basis.

  • mcdonsco

    Still amazes me that with all the multitude of variations in Android phones I STILL have to choose, “great camera” or “stock Android”?

    Sure, pixel, but I tried TWO and they were a bit on the flaky side (both had issues where the touch screen would just stop responding randomly). But also with pixel, price (and, I hate fingerprint readers on the back)…If the base was 64gb instead of 32gb, $650 would have been close to acceptable, but $750 for enough storage is just not justifiable IMO without some serious other additional functionality (like in the Note line).

    I’d kill for a Sammy flagship with stock Android :-/

    • Wouldn’t we all :

      • mcdonsco

        I honestly do not understand why GPE is dead. Why not give consumers a choice, say at boot “run stock or skinned”?

        Simple.

        Hell, I would even be fine with it forcing you to agree to forfeit support on the phone (not warranty) if you choose stock to limit their training needs for support staff…I would be fine with that.

        Or, with a call and say a small fee ($50 or so) allow it to be unlocked and skin removed.

        Just, SOMETHING.

        • Guessing manufacturers don’t want any part of GPE. It’s something else to maintain and worry about and they probably don’t think it’ll ever sell well.

    • seattle tech

      Samsung Nougat is like stock but better.
      Throw the Pixel launcher and it is game over.

      • Rod

        Lol. Best joke I’ve read today, so far.

        • seattle tech

          I can understand if you have no hands on time with it. Samsung nougat brings native multi windows and even stock android quick settings but better. It really is the biggest advancement I have seen. Lets just say my s7 exynos with nougat and pixel launcher runs as fast as my pixel and faster with larger apps while mantaining fluidity of stock with more features.

    • LionStone

      That’s why I’m glad to have the Unlocked HTC10 because it has the great camera, near stock Android (Nougat), removable storage…so for my purposes, I didn’t have to make any sacrifices anywhere.

  • Keith Taylor

    The battery needs to go…yeah ok..

  • Miguel

    It is indeed a good phone and it is cheaper than any high end phone because of their promo. I received a $200 e-check and a B&O earphone.

  • Francis Nimms

    A thoughtful review and probably a good recommendation for people looking for boring phones like the Pixel or iPhone. The reason I came to android was the quirky uniqueness of the various manufacturers (e.g. Moto nexus 6 aka shamu). The reason I like the V20 is they aren’t afraid to make something unique. My Pixel XL feels too much like an iPhone (but AMOLED) with no real differentiation other than assistant. I agree you have to be comfortable with phablets, which this is. I know people who bought the HTC 10 and were blown away by that DAC. You don’t have to be an audiophile to hear the significant sound improvement on the V20 (even over the HTC10). I appreciate your balanced review.

    • Fun fact: most Snapdragon 820 (and now 821) phones, use Qualcomm’s Aqstic codec, which is a DAC. It may not be the fully dedicated Quad DAC that LG used, but phones like the Pixel have higher-end audio than most people realize.

      • Mike

        But the output volume is still really low compared to other phones. That matters to me more than the quality of the music. Obviously not strictly relating to the two phones in question but is an issue to me with the Pixel.

      • RoninX

        ALL phones have a DAC — a Digital-to-Analog Converter. (As well as all CD players, all DVD players, all laptops, etc.) That’s what converts digital sound files into sound that you can hear. The difference is in the quality of the DAC and how accurately it converts the digital numbers in the file into analog voltages to drive headphones or speakers.

    • Rod

      Phones other than Pixel/iPhone tell jokes or something?

      Why are they not boring?

      • Francis Nimms

        Design uniqueness. Example, HTC 10 has curved back and speaker design that splits bass. V20 has a second screen (and quad DAC). These make these devices more interesting and unique user experience.

        • Rod

          I see. But skinned Android and no updates is a no go for me, unfortunately.

          • Francis Nimms

            That is a good point to be sure. A problem for many droid devices.

        • instrument

          That second screen is such a waste of space. And putting at the top is just makes it worse. The phone is so tall you cant even reach it one handed.

          Its nearly as bad as ios starting its icons at the top left (wtf apple)

          • jefferson

            works great for me. took a while to warm up to it, but it’s very functional and practical.

  • Rocksthaman

    Best phone of 2016. Look at the features between the pixel and the V20. Lg put in nearly everything you could in a phone and google gave us pure android and started patting themselves on the back. Terrible precedent for oems and especially google getting lazy. They used to be about options.

    • MJ

      Just throwing every feature one can think of in a phone doesn’t automatically make it a great device… The V20 was contender for me but in the end it was a little to ugly (the V10 was so sharp looking), the gimmick second screen really needs to go,and it’s a little to big. Worse, the unlocked version is just to expensive and the carrier versions are of course a no go with the endless crap installed.

      • Tony’s Texas Hots

        Have you used the second screen? Sure, it’s not for everyone, but I use mine quite a bit. Saying it needs to go is shortchanging something useful that sets this phone apart.

        • MJ

          I have as a coworker has the V10 and the best thing I can say about it is it’s more useful than the Edge gimmick on Samsung phones but that is not saying much.

      • Hidalgo Nuñez

        Hahaha…too ugly!? Hahahaha

      • Oscar Cavail

        Not a gimmick. Your comment tells me right away you don’t have the phone. It is easily the most used feature on my phone. Even when I’m not using it it’s useful as it display message previews in a ticker format. In video recording the second screen doubles as a zoom wheel. Quick settings toggles without having swipe down and interrupt the main screen while streaming video. My last give apps used for fluid app transition without having to go to the multitasking button at the bottom. And it doubles as a track selection controller on Amazon Music, Google Play and too many others to count. It’s very useful in the car when I have on the mount as I can click on my top five apps with one swipe and not get distracted.

        • MJ

          My comment says I don’t have the phone? Damn, you are either a regular Sherlock Holmes or you noticed I said a co-worker owns a V10. #facepalm

          Sorry, it’s not useful enough for me to warrant a bigger phone or the 50 extra LG, carrier, and 3rd-party apps installed. The LG skin is not to awesome looking either.

          • Oscar Cavail

            As in I didn’t have to read beyond the first line of your post to know that you haven’t actually used the second screen for more than 2 minutes….

            But if you like dismissing things you don’t actually have any substantial experience with that’s cool for you.

          • MJ

            I hate to break this to you Oscar but you don’t know anything… Was I supposed to own the phone for a year to have an opinion? You are making no sense. Sorry I said didn’t care for a feature on a phone you own and now you feel bad but please grow up.

          • Oscar Cavail

            No need to exaggerate for effect. One doesn’t need to own the V20 “for a year” to see that the second screen is not a gimmick. The realization that you are plainly wrong would be apparent to you with just a day’s usage. What is most amusing is that you advocate removing a feature from a phone that you have no real experience with. Oh wait you held someone else’s V20 for 2 minutes my bad you are an expert….

          • MJ

            Wow! Just wow…

          • Oscar Cavail

            Just occurred to me you never explained to us exactly why you are of the opinion that the second screen is a “gimmick”.
            So lets hear it… must be good if you advocate its removal. In case you missed it there was no market wide groan when they repeated it again on the V20.

  • Harry Balsaq

    Pixel and S7 is NOT cheaper.

    V20 $672
    S7 Edge $792( sorry S7 with measly 5.1 inch screen is not comparable )
    Pixel XL $770

    Did the author learn math?

    • The V20 is $830 at AT&T and $770 at T-Mobile. So yes, at Verizon it’s decently priced. Elsewhere, it’s ridiculously expensive. Math tho.

      • Harry Balsaq

        Yes but you fail to point that out and Verizon is the largest carrier. Verizon is larger than T-Mobile and Sprint combined.

        • I get you, you are trying to prove a point that Verizon is the only thing that matters. But in the real world, like reality and stuff, the phone is expensive. It’s expensive because LG tossed in a bunch of stuff for a niche audience instead of making the most important parts of the phone great.

          • Harry Balsaq

            So verizon is not in the real world? I bet you have more Verizon customers here than any other carrier. Once again who has the most customers? So you hate everything Verizon and not Apple or Samsung. Seriously STFU already.

          • LaFave07

            And you suck Verizon’s cock. STFU already, nunya.

          • I see the point isn’t ever going to get through to you. But yeah, Verizon, the phone is cheaper there. Got me! Whew.

          • Guest

            > I bet you have more Verizon customers here than any other carrier.

            First truthful thing you have said all day

          • Brandon Sobotta

            It was to much for me. The price pushed me to the g5 on att.

          • RoninX

            I think LG realized that trying to compete with Samsung on an all-around, least-common-denominator phone for everyone was a losing proposition. Even if LG’s phones matched Samsung’s in every way, people would still buy the Samsung phones out of brand loyalty or brand recognition. (The Note 7 debacle might have changed this to a certain extent, but there was no way LG could know about that when designing the V20.)

            LG could have tried to undercut Samsung on price, but there’s no way they get better component prices than Samsung (or Apple or Huawei), so that’s also a losing game in terms of actually making money.

            So instead of making a phone that was pretty good for everyone, LG made a phone that was great for a specific target market. I bought it because: (1) I’m an audiophile, and it has much better sound quality than any other phone I’ve ever used. That includes the Quad DAC, but it also includes the entire signal path (including the analog amp), which LG clearly took the time to get right. (2) The microSD card slot means I can carry around my 160 GB of lossless music along with plenty of video, wherever I go. (3) I can’t stand the accidental touches on Samsung’s curved screens, which are now on all their flagships.

            In terms of price, it’s basically going head-to-head with the S7 Edge and Pixel XL, a little lower at Verizon, a little higher at AT&T, almost exactly the same at T-Mobile. And how is the V20 ridiculously expensive at T-Mobile, when the price for the Pixel XL is exactly the same, and the price for the S7 Edge is even higher?

      • B!

        I like the new format of the review videos but I miss the, “Until then, we’re Droid-Life. ✌” sign-off.

        Keep doing your thing. Myself & others visit this site everyday so you already know you’re doing something right.

    • Tojen1981

      Also, the s7 is 9 months old. Should be cheaper anyways. The pixel xl only has 32gb of storage at that price, add $100 for 128gb option. Which is OOS.

      • Harry Balsaq

        Samsung takes forever to lower their prices and even then only modestly. They are still selling the S6 for $576. Which is a joke.

        • Because Samsung doesn’t have to lower their prices. They sell millions and millions and millions of them. Would you drop your prices at your business if you sold more of your product than anyone in the world? Please say yes.

          • Harry Balsaq

            I’m making a point. which part of that shall I color in crayon for you? I’ll let you pick the color.

      • Rod

        OOS = ?

        • Guest

          Out of stcok

        • Tojen1981

          Out of stock

    • rick slick

      The author has an agenda to push off useful features like SD card expansion, replaceable batteries, to focus on devices with limited lifespan so the manufacturers make more money in a disposable society.

    • LaFave07

      Samsung phones have a much higher resale value than LG’s, so it doesn’t really matter.

    • steadymobb

      Unlocked the v20 is about $800 which I think is what the author should go by

  • payaxy

    V20 was the only device competing with Mate 9 for my choice, unfortunately LG didn’t deign Europe important enough to release it here, so maybe next time, LG…

  • Stephen D

    I went from an S6 Edge to the Note 7. I absolutely loved the Note 7, but you know what happened with that. I didn’t think I liked anything else out(I had an S7 Edge loaner so I knew I didn’t want one), so I got a Nexus 6P. I ended up hating it. It was a very disappointing phone and I sent it back. I loved my G3 back in the day, and I was out of options, so I ordered a V20 without ever using one in person, thinking it can’t be as disappointing as the 6P. Turns out, it’s an awesome phone and I’m very happy with it. I am getting battery life equal to the Note 7 and I love the DAC. Unless the S8 is spectacular, I will keep it for awhile. I don’t get all the average/negative reviews. I think it beats everything else available right now.

    • Tyler Durden

      S7 Edge was 10x better than the Note 7, not sure why you didn’t like it. Same camera, better battery, better performance, faster charging, better design, list goes on.

      • Stephen D

        Better design? No way. The S7E had the same issues as the S6E I had…too thin with edges that were too sharp. I dealt with the S6E for too long and I did not wanna waste a jump upgrade on the S7E with how similar it was.

        • Charles Rogers

          Can you let me know what you mean by “sharp”?

          • Stephen D

            Where the metal and glass meet around the phone, the metal is not smooth. It was worse on the S6E than the S7E, but my N7 was completely smooth all around.

          • Charles Rogers

            I see, thanks.

        • C Shwizzel

          I agree…design of the S7E is bad…phone feels huge in hand and the “edge” gimmick is just crap. I was constantly accidentally launching something or pressing something on the edge unintentionally. Note7 design was amazing…I really wish it would have lasted…it was the best phone on the planet.

          • Stephen D

            Me too. The V20 is pretty awesome, but the Note 7 was in a league of it’s own. Definitely the best phone I’ve ever owned.

      • jbworldwide1

        Don’t normally do this, but I agree. I didn’t like the Note 7 during the little time I had it.

    • 2001400ex

      Still rocking the G3. Haven’t found a phone with enough upgrades and every phone since has monster bezels. Closest is the S7.

      • Stephen D

        I loved my G3, but I did feel the Nexus 6 was a good replacement for it(that’s what I got after the G3). Then I shattered the N6 and, instead of paying my deductible and getting a replacement, I paid it and upgraded to the S6 Edge, which I deeply regretted. It was OK but the G3 was a better phone, let alone the N6.

    • TechyMarkbo

      Completely agree. I got the LG V 20 after the Note. I am really impressed with it. And no damn lag!

    • Phil

      Agreed

  • Mac

    This is why DL needs to shut down and one day it will. Your old and busted. Late reviews and post always after AP and AC has them.

    • Orlando aka Pixel XL

      Faster is not always better but I do agree that these guys can’t do everything themselves….U guys need help. I rather not feed the troll but I rather visit droidlife over Android Police, but I want more content..

      • This review is super late, I totally know that. It should have been out a long time ago. As for us needing help, we really don’t want it. We like keeping it small and doing our own thing. We’d have much more content if Android wasn’t so boring these days heh. Well, not that it’s that boring, it’s just that it isn’t like the old days where things constantly changed, we had new fun apps to use every day, and phones actually changed drastically from one to the next. Maybe something will change about that…

    • Cael

      Droid Life is run by _just_ TWO guys on the west coast.

      AP and AC have multiple people writing articles from around the world.

      Even if they skipped reviewing this thing, the world wouldn’t have ended. Get over yourself and use common sense.

      • We’re a different breed over here, but it’s cool that this guy likes to remind us that we don’t fit what he’s looking for in an Android news site. Funny thing is, he keeps coming back day after day. Must be doing something right enough. 🙂

        • Tyler Durden
          • People just can’t seem to understand that we don’t and won’t ever want to be like any other Android site. We’re obviously a successful enough business still to have been doing this for 7 years. But hey, WE SHOULD SHUT DOWN. ONE DAY WE WILL. LATE REVIEWS.

          • Jay Ochs

            honestly, i didn’t care the review came late, as i watched 289348923489298423 other reviews/previews of the V20 leading up to purchasing the US996 in November. you already know my feelings, as I’ve commented on the youtube video 😉 but we can agree to disagree. i think it’s the best phone out right now easily; you clearly don’t. no biggie. but hoping you’re keeping warm under that Samsung blanket of cash 😉

          • I’m hella warm. Sweaty almost that I need to start drying off with more Samsung cash.

          • Rocksthaman

            Haha, at least we are getting to the point that we are admitting it.lol

          • Seán Mikha’el Field

            Exactly!

          • Rod

            Breaking news: Droid Life founder admits being paid off by Samsung!

          • Solid headline for sure. Put it on Facebook and it’ll trend.

        • Daniel Armstrong

          Why is this site called droid-life anyway? Droid is a Verizon branding for specific Android devices on their network. You may as well call it Galaxy S-life or One M-life.

          • LaFave07

            Well droid is still short for Android.

          • Daniel Armstrong

            Not quite. Droid is a trademark from the Star Wars franchise.

    • Guest

      AC was the same site that had seemly non stop PokeMon Go coverage

    • B!

      You’re*

  • jmpstar

    The removable battery needs to go away? That is LG’s differentiating factor. Given phones being released with similar screen sizes, I probably wouldn’t give LG another look without a removable battery. I hate it when reviewers argue for the removal of features other people use. Yeah, I get where you’re coming from, but LG is pretty much the last bastion for fans of removable batteries. And options are a good thing, right?

    • Orion

      Yeah I have no idea why removable battery is ever considered a negative.

      • rick slick

        Because the manufacturers, in collusion with these review sites, tell you that anything that makes the product lasts longer and is more useful, is a bad thing. They want you to buy disposable gadgets in this disposable world (despite the fact the environment is flooded with toxic industrial waste), so they can sell you more useless gadgets in the future when these useless gadgets wear out. Such a shame, for consumers who want options and have phones that are perfectly fine but doomed to a limited lifespan because of knuckleheads like these people writing this review.

        • Rocksthaman

          Here, Here. Removable battery is a huge selling point. I bet Samsung wishes hey had one on the notes. And if nothing else it should show just another reason that it could be a plus. Like someone said before android used to be about options and we now have DL saying options are a negative. Wat? Two really good cameras, the best audio you can get on a phone, removable battery, 2nd Screen(It is useful), IR blaster(underrated), SD card slot , Head phone jack, How many flagships even have two of these. I guess we will all have to have iPhones or android iPhones(pixels) if DL has their way. -_-

          • Orion

            Yup DL is really starting to be sellouts.

          • Stephen Wootton

            Well, I am not sure that you can get a water resistant, much less water proof, phone with a “removable battery”. It is one of the better features of my new LG V20, but I don’t fully understand exactly where you are coming from with the idea of the “disposable” phone. My last phone (HTC One M8), lost its appeal as well as usefulness with the advent of the fingerprint scanner, need of more than 2GB of ram, stock OS stuck at Android 6.0, slow as !@#$ camera, driver issues with many other devices (ps3 controller), etc. When the phone came out it was a pretty beach’n phone, but as more features started popping up in the last 3 years, my phone literally became obsolete. I will replace my backup phone (HTC EVO 4G) with the M8 just in case my V20 blows up. But there was just so much lacking on my 3 year old phone that an upgrade was warranted, even if it still ran fine.

            Honestly I only got the V20 cause sprint had it half price, as well as giving me a $10 credit if I did the monthly installments… I got the phone for about $6.50 a month for 24 months (~$150). Heck, I might have even gotten an iphone for that price (and then turn around and sell the sum-beach to by a S7 or Pixel or even the V20). But the V20 is awesome. It is a little big, but shoot, if that size is finally good enough for apple, then it is good enough for me.

            With regards to DL selling out, do you not see that every major producer is acting like a sellout. There is no money in products anymore. HTC is going to be going belly up here soon and they were the first OG for android, being so awesome that Google used them several times for their amazing products. Sony cant sell a phone to save their mobile devision, even though they are some of the most beautiful devices out there. Motorola was bought and stripped and sold again, and now their actually awesome modular handsets are only on one carrier. The other big dogs that are selling like hotcakes because they sold out to what the consumers want. Googles Pixel commercials look almost exactly like an apple commercial. Their phone looks quite close to the iphone. It is now one of the highest rated phones, other than the iphone…

            I feel your frustrations. I miss the glory days of android. But as iphone ripped and clawed its way to the top by stealing concepts from every other manufacturer as well as platform, android will have to do the same to stabilize the market. Once stability occurs, then people wont have to sell out to make a buck. They will have an original thought that was stolen from someone else and make a million.

          • km75sr

            The Galaxy S5 had a removable battery and was waterproof/resistant. So definitely doable.

          • Stephen Wootton

            km75sr, you are absolutely correct. it had pretty decent resistance for a phone with a removable battery. the only thing you had to do was plug up the usb port. I totally forgot about the S5…

          • Tom Lato

            haha… so true about samsung and the notes…

        • scottalias

          Not saying a replaceable battery is a bad thing, but you can recycle these phones, safely, just carefully delete personal data, first.

    • 2001400ex

      Exactly. If you change phones every 10 months, I get not having a removable battery with turbo charging now days. But I have had my G3 for 30 months now and it’s nice to buy new battery for $15 or whatever and have a fresh battery that lasts like the original. I’ve bought 4 batteries for this phone. Can’t do that when batteries degrade without a removable battery.

      • jmpstar

        Right! I’ve never swapped out a battery because I’ve depleted it in a day’s use. I just like the peace of mind that comes with knowing I could swap out my battery when it starts to degrade. It’s much more economically and ecologically sound than buying an entirely new phone when the battery starts to go.

    • rick slick

      Agree, I can’t believe the heresy I’m reading here. Android used to be all about options. Now sites like this tell you that options are unnecessary and niche only. What the hell? People fall over themselves over phones like the LeEco stuff crippled from lack of options (no NFC, no SD card, no headphone jack)… if this is the future, I don’t want it. The trend towards forcing consumers to buy disposable gadgets that are extremely limited if environmentally unfriendly, and anti-consumer as well. Shame on this site for propagating this idea that useful, value-added features are meaningless.

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      • jmpstar

        Exactly!

    • seattle tech

      Why can’t LG give us a LARGE removable battery. A small removable battery is not the solution

    • Tony’s Texas Hots

      EXACTLY. Android used to be about choice, but what’s the difference, really, between the Pixel, HTC 10, and Galaxy S7? The skin? Whoop-dee-doo. At least the Note had the stylus and the V20 has the 2nd screen. I don’t want just another phone. I want something that offers a different experience–software AND hardware–from anything else out there.

    • LaFave07

      And those fans are becoming few and far between. If they can improve the design of the phone and, in turn, create more sales, pretty sure they’re going to ditch the removable battery. Quick charging is making removable batteries obsolete.

      In the end, it’s all about making profit and LG can’t be making much from their phone sales.

      • yoemeyer

        “Quick charging is making removable batteries obsolete”
        I don’t swap the battery because I need instant charge, I do it to replace a 2 year battery and basically refresh my phone to almost new.

        • LaFave07

          Do you think LG wants you to use your phone for another year or two instead of buying a new one?

          • Stephen Wootton

            I think that LG,like other large brands, realized that they cannot make alot of money on a handset. In fact they hardly make as much money on a handset as they used to because people want more features for the same price. With the exception of Apple, the profit margins on the handsets are like ~25 – 30%. The large brands do however make a crap ton of money on accessories. I think that is one reason that LG still keeps the removable batteries. They charge ~$30 for a battery and then ~$20 for a cradle. $50 for the “convenience” of a second battery, that only cost them about $10 to produce. Accessories are where the money is at. But reports show that a majority of users replace handsets within 2 years, but also own 3+ handsets. LG is smart in the fact that they know you will replace your obsolete handset, even though you purchased a bunch of crap for the phone you are replacing and still keep the old one around just in case; topped off with a new battery for good measure.

    • Brandon Sobotta

      Really love the removable battery on my g5. One of the reasons I got it.

    • Tom

      Completely agree… non-replaceable means planned obsolescence which leads to no resale value. until they come up with a battery that never wears out, the removable battery is critical for me.

    • psxndc

      Going to chime in here – I’m reading this article *because* I’m disgusted with how my Samsung S7 Edge is down to about 8-10 hours of battery life a day after ~10 months (apparently using the quick charger that came with the phone every day overheats and destroys the battery) and there’s nothing I can do about it except get a new phone or spend $$$ to have Samsung replace the battery.

      My next phone *will* have a removable battery because this sort of $#!+ is *not* acceptable. This is an $800 phone that hasn’t lasted a year.

  • Tyler Durden

    I wonder if LG is ever going to make a good phone again. Maybe 2017 is their year.

    …probably not

    • Harry Balsaq

      slurp slurp slurp. That’s you suck sucking on Apple and Samsung’s dicks.This site should ban trolls like you because that’s ALL you do is troll.

      • Tyler Durden

        Opinions are trolling now, makes sense. Good day, Ballsack.

      • LaFave07

        And all you do is suck on Verizon’s cock, nunya.

    • Jay Ochs

      have you used the V20? it’s a great phone. call quality sounds good which, i know to many millennials doesn’t matter, but compared to my Lagaxy S7 before this, where i could NEVER understand what someone was saying on the phone, this thing rocks. screens 10x better (the S7 was so yellow and looks horrendous), speaker is 10x better, camera, while not as quick, produces better quality, and the phone is 10x faster than the S7. i love it.

      • it’s me tim-cock.

        You sound like an idiot with that comment. Screen is 10x better on the v20? Camera produce better quality? Lagaxy? ok. Time to give up the hard drugs homie.

        • Oscar Cavail

          LAGAXY!! ROTFLMAOAA

      • Tyler Durden

        Hated the V10 and have no interest in the V10. And faster? Doubt it. But cool you like it, enjoy it and rock it brah.

    • LaFave07

      G2 was the first and last good phone by LG.

      • Oscar Cavail

        My V10 was the best phone from Palm, to Blackberry to Apple to Motorola to Nexus to Samsung. And my V20 is better still. V series phones are for people who know what they’re doing. It’s not a big club.