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Starting October 1, Verizon Will Include Unlimited 4G LTE Customers in “Network Optimization”

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Back in September of 2011, Verizon introduced a new initiative called Network Optimization that only affected unlimited data customers. What is Network Optimization? Well, it’s a little bit like throttling in that Verizon can slow down your data connection if you meet a list of factors, because they don’t want you to ruin the data experience for the rest of their customers.

The thing is, up until now, Network Optimization only affected the 3G connection of those with unlimited data plans. Since most of you are all on 4G LTE now, it really didn’t matter much. But according to sources of ours, along with at least one reader who has been notified of the change, LTE will become a part of the “optimization” starting October 1. Like before, this only affects unlimited data customers.

This is what we know. 

On October 1, Verizon will expand its existing Network Optimization policy to include unlimited data customers who use 4G LTE devices and “have fulfilled their minimum contract term.” That “optimization” occurs when an unlimited data customer meets specific criteria and hops onto a cell site that is experiencing high demand. This is only a temporary reduction, not a billing cycle throttle. Once that customer leaves the cell site under stress, their connection should return to normal.

Update:  The policy is changing somewhat on how long you could be throttled. From information we have received from sources (and now reflected on Verizon’s own policy), the throttling could last through a current billing cycle and on to the end of the next, should a user be on a cell site experiencing high demand. This is the exact wording for the potential throttling – “The customer may continue to be impacted for the rest of the current billing cycle and through the next billing cycle, but only while on a cell site that is experiencing high demand.”

In order to see reduced speeds, you have to be a customer that meets all of the criteria below (again, ALL of the criteria):

  • Top 5% of data users (you use 4.7GB of data per month or more)
  • Enrolled on an unlimited data plan or feature
  • Have fulfilled their minimum contract term
  • Are attempting to use data on a cell site that is experiencing high demand

According to Verizon’s Network Optimization page, as of March 2014, you qualify as being in the top 5% if you use 4.7GB of data or more per month. That could fluctuate over time, though we aren’t sure how often Verizon updates this number.

If you are worried that you may be impacted by Network Optimization, Verizon has options for you, though you you may not love them:

  • Migrate to a MORE Everything plan or usage based data feature
  • Use your device’s Wi-Fi options
  • Use VZW tools to track and manage data usage:
  • View real-time data use information on My Verizon and My Verizon Mobile
  • Predict data needs by using Verizon’s Data Calculator
  • Install the Data Usage Widget (available on most smartphones)
  • Dial #DATA from the device to receive a text with data use information

Beginning August 1, Verizon will notify its customers of this change with the following message:

Wireless strives to provide its customers with the best wireless experience when using our network. In 2011, Verizon Wireless launched Network Optimization, which slows the data speeds of its unlimited data subscribers with 3G devices who are in the top 5% of data users when they connect to a cell site experiencing high demand. Effective October 1, Verizon Wireless will expand its existing Network Optimization policy to include its unlimited data subscribers using 4G LTE devices who have fulfilled their minimum contract term. Based on your plan and recent data usage, one or more lines on your account may experience a reduction in data speeds when connected to a cell site experiencing high demand. Customers on MORE Everything or other usage-based data plans are not subject to Network Optimization. For more information about our Network Optimization, please refer to www.verizonwireless.com/networkoptimization.

The changes on Verizon’s site to reflect this move are already taking place. Take a look at the screenshots below of Verizon’s Network Optimization page today compared to what it looked like back on July 20. There used to be references all over it to Network Optimization only affecting those with 3G connections, and that if you wanted to avoid being throttled you should buy an LTE device. But now, those references have all been removed. The new page is setup perfectly to cover all unlimited data users, including those with 4G LTE connections.

verizon network optimization

Again, this only affects 5% of their unlimited data customers, which are those who use more than 4.7GB of data per month (as of March 2014). In order to experience the “optimization” or slowness, you also have to meet other criteria. This is not a full billing cycle throttle, it is only temporary until you leave a cell site that is under high stress. Edit: It could actually be for more than one billing cycle, if on a cell site under high demand.

Just wanted you to be aware.

Update 2:  Verizon has made the news official.

  • Kyle Daniels
  • Jrock

    As I read more and more comments people seem to be pissed at large data users and blaming it on those users for data throttling. Its unlimited data meaning you can use it as you please. Keyword (UNLIMITED) I use large amounts of data as well on occasions but as I stated on another comment I pay my bill JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE!!!

  • We bought cellphones based on being offered UNLIMITED NON-THROTTLED data plans. This is an absolute bait and switch. Just waiting for the class action lawsuit to place Verizon back in their place.

  • Ricky

    Throttle me all you want. I won’t stop using my unlimited data. Period.

  • S Prime

    Have you ever questioned the fairness and business practices of your US Wireless Provider? If so, you may want to view the petition at We the People asking President Obama to direct the FCC to demand that US Wireless Providers follow the “Network Neutrality Transparency Rule. This portion of Net Neutrality has been upheld by federal courts and is not in question in the proposed changes for Net Neutrality. Once we have 150 votes for the petition it will be placed on the We the People website and once it receives 100,000 votes, the Government will address the petition. The petition directly addresses throttling, but it will open the door to much larger concerns. Click on the We the People below or this is the direct link to the petition: http://wh.gov/luRVa

  • GW Norman

    got a mot x for 180 a new one

  • GW Norman

    i just change to xlet net work i hope its better

  • Chris Grissom

    So where can we find out information an where the “high demand cell sites” are?

  • Sevensinz_26

    if you have several lines under you like me who have 2 unlimited lines and 3 not unlimited, when it comes time to upgrade your unlimited line you just switch the upgrade to a line without unlimited, youll keep your unlimited on that line, get yourself a discounted phone, switch that phone back to your unlimited line and then wa la you have a new phone but keep your unlimited as well…loop hole loop hole.. Ive done it for both of my unlimited lines before and it works…

  • Mike Braswell

    I have been with Verizon for over 10 years and I used to have unlimited data then I went to my Note 3 and LOVED it. Until now. I have the 6 gig data plan and I go to the limit every month and never go over it. Now Verizon is telling me because I use 4.75 gigs a month my service is going to be throttled back? I pay to have that service and I can use it for whatever I want. I cannot wait until my plan is up next March. Adios Verizon. Jackasses.

    • ja

      mate, how many times does this article mention customers who “used to have” an unlimited data plan?

  • William Hunt

    I completely understand why VZW is doing this, I don’t agree with it, but I understand. The problem as I see it though is those of us who went out of our way to keep our unlimited data are now getting hosed. I average 8GB/month any my wife averages 4. I take the bus to work most days and stream Netflix or am reading news and stuff. For me I couldn’t afford to not have the unlimited data. We just moved to a new home where we can get a better home internet connection (our old place was out in the sticks so it was faster to tether my phone from the bus than it was to use my home satellite internet) so I’m expecting my usage to drop quite a bit, but I don’t think I’ll be able to get under their 4.7GB high usage number. We’ll see how it plays out though

  • cg

    I have a question and hopefully someone can answer it.

    I have three Unlimited Data lines. I also have two basic/dumb phone lines that are under contract because I did alternate upgrade on both. Since I am technically under contract on the dumb phone lines, does this mean that the Network Optimization would not apply to me? And if it does not apply to me, does this mean I can cancel my contract on both dumb phones ETF-free since the Network Optimization plan would have an “adverse effect” on me?

    Verizon sees $217 a month from me for having five lines. One line I don’t even use (a hot spot with Unlimited Data) just in case I need Internet in an emergency or if I am traveling and want to use the laptop or something. I can easily save oodles of loot by going to T-Mobile (which is not terrible in most major metros.) But Verizon has a stable network…but I have no qualms leaving them if I have to…

  • Jeremy Damnatei

    Some people need to get a life and quit jerking off to porn everyday using 100gb a day. Leave your pee pee alone and get off your phones and quit tethering to your laptops. For fuxx sakes!!!

  • Anthony

    I’m pretty sure this is already happening. I’ve been having this problem since April of this year on one specific tower that covers my job as well as the biggest mall in the area and a lot of other businesses. If I travel a distance as small as about a mile in either direction it works fine, but when I come back the data gets really slow again. It usually starts to slow about 8 every morning. I can’t load an Instagram feed, send a picture message… and definitely, no streaming of any type. I’ve called VZW and they sad that someone would look into it. I got a few text messages from someone and that was it. Nothing changed. The rep said that it was a huge area and to pretty much just deal with it. It all makes sense now.

  • J. Town

    I could have sworn the terms of their purchase of the 700Mhz spectrum specifically prohibits interfering with 700Mhz LTE service for existing, unlimited customers. Also, I find it hard to believe that 22% of customers have hung onto their unlimited service. I also find it hard to believe that unlimited customers average 4.7 gigs/cycle. The whole thing smacks of BS.

  • SG

    well.. this is the last straw that broke the camel’s back.. bye verizon.

  • Robert

    I can’t afford their service if I move to the more everything plan. We use the unlimited for our home internet. They don’t even have a plan for over 300gb a month. It will cost us over $3,000 a month on the more everything plan. That doesn’t include our phone usage either. So it’s either back to low speed DSL or to the inconsistent speeds of cable.

  • MWisBest

    Chances are they’re including every single line in that data count, even those without data plans, and there are plenty of people who just have the rock-bottom amount of data possible too. If they threw out all the people using less than 500MB per month that 4.7GB number skyrockets, I’d estimate at least 8GB.

  • Frawlz

    I signed a 2 year agreement and kept my unlimited data plan. I was able to to it with the site glitch and picked up a MotoX.

    Because it says you have to have fulfilled your current agreement… does that mean I’m not part of this slow down?

  • Paul jon

    At least when I was on att with unlimited data and foolishly made the switch my iphone could surf and tAlk at the same time. These companies are getting greedy and trying to disguise their motives as doing a service ” network optimization” ha!!! If you THROTTLED everyone to a gig a month you’d still find a reason to optimize. “Signal” not collude with the other carriers, buy off a few congressmen, and spend the millions you make to market the obviously inferior plan. Let’s get real in the age of the digital native a 160mb a day is comical, and with wages for the avg joe so low … No one could afford an adequate plan

  • John Friend

    This really pisses me off. I have 2 lines with grandfathered unlimited and 3 feature phones. We have always made sure we connect to wifi whenever it was available even if the connection was slower than 4g. We generally only use 2-5gbs per line. It seems like once or twice per year there will be some sort of trip or emergency and we will use 10-15gbs on only one of the lines.

    I almost feel like I need to be a dick and just tether my heart out but I don’t want to ever be flagged as one of the data hogs. I do want more clarification about the being in contract part. I bet we never will get official news on if we are still in a contract if that makes us exempt. I’ve seen several comments about switching upgrades. As it stands right now we would need to use up 2 more upgrades to have the smartphones under contract again.

    Is there a way to switch upgrade dates and make it stick without actually upgrading? As it stands right now our two smartphones and 1 feature phone are not in a contract. I would like to switch the dates to both of the smartphone lines. Thoughts?

  • Paul jon

    This is absurd! I spent 750 for my iphone when my contract ended to keep my unlimited plan . My bill remained the same even thought no phone was being subsidized. I pay an extra $30 a month in order to get unlimited 4g hotspot service. I only did this to remain unthrottled! Verizon’s plans are more expensive then everyone else and here in Atlanta all the other major carriers are just as capable.

  • Trill316

    The Verizon data service has been so bad for me lately i’ve been forced to use wifi more and more. which is very hard when wifi isnt around.

  • albert5x5

    I use my phone a lot on the road, so good solid WiFi isn’t always readily available. Not to mentiom the slight security risks of using public WiFi. Streaming / Downloading music, YouTube, Email, and Facebook are what I do the most. I do almost 8GB a month. If I went to their share everything model, I’ll be paying more than I do now for what I’m currently using my phone for. My phone which is the fantastic but Verizon exclusive Droid Maxx. So October will be an interesting month for my phone…

  • pruett89

    As a RF Engineer I can say with great certainty that QOS(Quality of Service) policies have already been doing things like this to users in congested areas. There are hundreds of thresholds that can be set to direct traffic from on site to another as well as adjust user queues that determine when and how quickly different users get their data. This is an attempt by Verizon to keep the users informed, but there is no doubt that they have already been doing some type of traffic management before.

    I know the smartest way to do this would be by putting these “heavy” users at the back of the line to be served. This way if the cell site is lightly loaded you can still get the peak speeds you are used to, but during times of intense congestion you would simply have to wait behind other users who do not have an unlimited plan/requested data before you did. Since data is delivered to distinct users every milliseconds and VZW speeds are already quite high, it shouldn’t be a massive change. In this scenario you would not be speed limited, but instead you would be waiting a bit longer, which is interpreted as slowness.

    So its really not going to be something that will make you want to go crazy or file a law suite – IMHO

  • Razma

    Verizon is trying REALLY hard to kill off their unlimited data customers

  • chris125

    Average is 4.7 yet 2gb is base. Makes sense. Verizon needs to up their tiers, no reason 4/5gb can’t be at same price as 2gb is

    • Rodeojones000

      I get 6 GB for the price of 2 GB on Verizon.

      • Dominick

        i get ∞gb for the price of 2gb on verizon

        • flosserelli

          *and unthrottled

  • King of Nynex

    4.7 GB? One high-def show on Netflix is like 750MB.

  • FortitudineVincimus

    I meet everyone of those criteria except “Are attempting to use data on a cell site that is experiencing high demand” – but I am sure they can make that up as they please as how can you prove otherwise if they say you were on a high demand tower?

    And 4.7gb is “top 5%”? Are you kidding me? Funny how it is just under a 5gb tier also.

    total scam.

  • karpodiem

    I’m very interested in what the % utilization at a site triggers throttling – VZ could get very creative with this number or they could abuse it by throttling you without the site being anywhere close to being at capacity.

    The only people at VZ who know how this will work is corporate (that sets the % utilization number) and the network engineers that are actually implementing it. I’ve pinged David Young (https://twitter.com/daedyo) at VZ to ask that Verizon give us a % utilization at a cell site before throttling. That is absolutely the most important aspect of all of this.

    They will not throttle you unless the site is at capacity. What % utilization of maximum capacity is that? We need to press VZ on this issue, but I wouldn’t hold your breath. But the more people repeat it, the more it might gain some traction.

  • Turb0wned

    LOL, greedy cell phone companies.

    I bet 98% of you people on here that said “when verizon tries to screw me on my unlimited plan i’m switching,” aren’t actually going to switch,

  • BoFiS

    What a load of bullshit…I used like 16GB last month, in what world is the TOP 5% only 4.7GB? Obviously the 22% of us still with unlimited data need to be using MORE to push that number up 😉

  • Bruce

    Well, there goes my Google Music streaming while I’m driving….

  • guest

    The site doesn’t say what the screenshot says in this article. It still states on 3g devices.

    • flosserelli

      Nope. Read the linked page again. The policy does not distinguish between 3G and 4G devices. Regardless of device, “if you are consistently in the top 5% on an unlimited data plan, you will continue to be subject to Network Optimization when connected to a cell site experiencing high demand.”

  • d-rock

    Let the whining and crying begin!

    • flosserelli

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  • Dominik Rozek

    Game On Verizon! My mission is to use as much data as possible now.
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v446/drozek/Capture_zps36a64c00.jpg

    • Adrynalyne

      That will show Verizon.

    • Drago

      Yeah. Because bragging about how much data you use makes you a cool dude.

      Its people like you who get these rules enacted. Grow up.

      • Adrynalyne

        While I’m sure Verizon is quaking in their boots for what he is doing them, don’t be fooled by greedy business practices. Verizon was posting record profits when unlimited data was still a plan option.

        They enact these rules to increase profit further, not staunch their losses. They are doing this to push the remaining unlimited users out. If you listen to pandora on a somewhat regular basis, you know how easy it is to meet their top 5% user base.

  • RustyTechGuy

    Apparently I don’t use my smartphone enough its either that or I spend most of my time connected to WiFi but last month I tried to run up my data just to see what I could muster before I lose my sanity. I can only tolerate a certain amount of cellphone usage before I just put it down. I guess after you work on computers all day you get kind of burned out with it just bit. But anyway I only managed to hit 2.3 GB.

    • M3D1T8R

      Your 2.3GB is about what I use in an average day. That’s the same as one movie on Netflix. Just an hour or so per day of Netflix will easily add up to over 30GB/mo. Even just streaming music a bit each day can add up to 5 or 10GB. You know, the exact things the carriers advertised 4G as being built for, and how they sold it.

      • RustyTechGuy

        I guess I don’t use my phone for Netflix, just the occasional Youtube video. Also I don’t stream audio to my phone either. It is a little discouraging when they market all the things you can do with your phone only to find out that unless you pay dearly for large amount of data or you live on wifi you never will experience most of it.

    • ultravisitor

      I have a feeling that a lot of people who use tons of data are people who are too cheap to pay for home internet service.

      • Or are people who work and their company doesn’t allow streaming of music on their networks so they use their data.

  • SJ

    Alright, all of you guys are pissed off and such, but I’ve been upset since Smartphones came to Verizon. Why on earth do I need a Data Plan at ALL form you? All I want is WiFi Service at home or work… otherwise, not needed. Especially with 1-2 gb allowed… I can find MANY things better to spend $30/mo on.

  • patrick

    Streaming music to and from work (2 hours/day) puts me close to 20 every month. I doubt so many customers never touch 5GB. Seems hypocritical to push steaming music, online gaming and movies when you also have to stay off their network.

    • monkeybutts

      Streaming music shouldn’t be a problem that uses very little data per second compared to streaming video. It does something like 0.064 Mbps for low quality to 0.320 Mbps for high quality.

      • patrick

        That’s not what I get. Streaming high quality on Google Music,I’ve used 1.52GB in 3 days as well as almost 1GB for podcasts. Hope you don’t have a tiered data plan and are streaming high quality stuff.

      • Wrong. 8 hour work day*5 days per week is about 16-20 GB’s per month.

        • monkeybutts

          Those are per second download rates being throttled doesn’t mean your speeds go to zero. Yes after a few hours it does stack up but being throttled you should be able to stream it, at least on AT&T throttled it is usable, and it was on T-mobile as well (on low quality) before they did music freedom.

    • dsDoan

      Hypocritical isn’t the correct term. They aren’t telling you not to use a lot of data; they’re telling you: “If you want to use a lot of data, give us more money.”

  • Detonation

    Looks like I might be taking advantage of the Best Buy loophole to keep unlimited data on contract now…

  • DanThompson87

    Has anyone else noticed a drop to 3g in a 4g network? happens to me all the time have to toggle airplane mode to get back on 4G. I’m convinced its VZW because it happened on my GS4 and now my GS5.

    • hkklife

      Well, that exact same thing has been happening to me increasingly over the last 7-8 months, both with my GS3 and Note 3. I swapped the first Note 3 out and my connectivity drops improved but I still spend as much time in 3G as in LTE. I initially attributed it to Samsund and their s****y radios but then a friend with an HTC One commented on the same thing…

      • M3D1T8R

        Get the app PhoneInfo(Ad) by [email protected] If it works with your device, it allows you to force LTE or whatever mode you want. Also shows signal details etc. I use it constantly (especially in weak signal areas).

    • M3D1T8R

      See my reply below about that app. Might be useful for you.

  • pubasnacks77

    Well this blows

  • TheUI

    To all you folks that are currently on this “T-Mobile Cares about customers!” speil, I implore you to explore

    http://www.loweringthebarforus.org

    T-Mo is a turd company that foing everythjng it can to degrade the customer experience/service. Not all that glitters is gold.

    • David Benson

      I switched over to T-Mobile in March from Verizon Unlimited data. I have had nothing but better than VZ customer service and customer experience. I live in a populated area so the coverage has been better than VZ going to T-Mobile.

      • Eldorath

        Same experience here. Switched to TMO last December.. and it’s been stellar with regards to customer service.

    • You’re sorely mistaken sir, my own personal experience with T-Mobile customer service over the past 14 has been nothing short of stellar. I don’t need an article to tell me otherwise.

      • TheUI

        It’s not an article, it’s an organization fighting for workers rights.

  • Randy Lee Martin

    I have unlimited and use an average of 6gb a month and obviously I meet the rest of the criteria….I’m STILL not letting go of my unlimited….take that VZW!!

  • Chippah

    And here it starts!

  • flosserelli

    What good is “unlimited data” when you are forced into the slow lane?

    • dsDoan

      Slowed unlimited data is still unlimited data. Slowed unlimited data is adequate for most basic online needs: Web surfing, email, chat, small app downloads, etc. Unlimited data remains far superior to any plan Verizon offers at the same cost.

  • Just saying

    Here is a option just go over to a prepaid carrier then you exspect them to throttle you after you data allotment and stop paying for verizon service. Cricket Wireless uses att network now and you can bring your unlocked phones that are gsm compatible verizon lte phones cause alot of verizons lte phones are world phones such as iphone 5,5c,5s galaxy s3, s4,s5,note 2, note 3

  • Welp. I have used 17 gigs this month….woe is me

  • Aldr01d

    PHUCK U VERIZON

  • stayflyer

    Damn I do 50gb by myself and wifey does 15gb. Damn been with vzw for 13yrs. I’ve tried tmobile sucks, and att sucks and the same price as Verizon! Come Oct I’ll see how things turn out.

  • Quint

    My usage looks so minute compared to you guys! But, I’d qualify to be throttled:since I am pushing 8GB with 9 days remaining in the cycle. Last month, I used over 16 GB. The months before, I have consistently used over 6 GB. I have no plans to leave unless the data plan is taken away.

  • AUSTEEEZZZ

    I crush 40gb to 50gb a month

  • Don

    “Have fulfilled their minimum contract term” so if I have two lines and use cross upgrades to keep unlimited data as long as one line is under contract I won’t affected? Or will I need both lines under a two year contract? Or am I misunderstanding the whole concept

    • M3D1T8R

      I’m interpreting it as, any line you have unlimited on, that specific line won’t need throttled as long as it’s under contract. This is why I just upgraded my unlimited line by transferring its upgrade to another line and doing an upgrade. I’m still worried they’ll just end up throttling everyone (unlimited) anyway, since they’re evil.. But a least this way I’m going by what they claim according to this article, so maybe I’ll have a chance.
      Really, by law they shouldn’t be able to throttle LTE per their agreement with the FCC (when they got their LTE bandwidth). Maybe that applies only when customers are in their contracts, and hence why they’re doing it this way. I guess we’ll see in a couple months.

    • monkeybutts

      It could mean anything their lawyers want it to mean. Could mean your original 2 year contract since people have been going through loopholes to keep unlimited.

  • SomeDooD

    FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

  • I only get 3 mbps down in San Diego anyways. Don’t see how they can throttle me more.

    • Ryan Dombroski

      They will throttle you and you will get 1.5 mbps lol

  • Caleb Rodriguez

    I can’t believe they had the audacity to say “use your smart phone’s WiFi options.” Like they have anything to do with that at all. They’re one step away from not being worth it as a wireless provider.

  • Randy

    I have 4 unlimited month to month lines on my family plan. I only pay $180 per month in total plus taxes. I want to keep unlimited on all of them. I don’t want or need a new phone (already have the S5). Can I just call up Verizon and say I want to renew my contract for 2 more years to keep unlimited for 2 more years? At least on 1 of the lines? If others on my family plan want to use an upgrade later they can still upgrade at discounted pricing in the future and lose their unlimited data. But I don’t have any tiered data lines to transfer upgrades. What is the best advice in my situation?

    • ultravisitor

      No. You cannot renew your contract AND keep unlimited. That option does not exist.

  • Kayonesoft

    No matter how much data everyone uses, there’s always going to be a top 5%.

  • Disqus_n00b

    I’d rather be throttled after 5-10 GB than this unknown, arbitrary “when WE feel demand is high”

    • monkeybutts

      well it’s better than being throttled 100% of the time on Sprint

      • Joseph M.

        Hilarbeeus, not! Sprint’s going to have network vision some year, and when they do, they’ll be the best, you’ll see.

        Just kidding, Sprint sucks.

    • Ryan Dombroski

      10 seems logical — but 4.7?

  • Kayonesoft

    So to reward long time customers who have fulfilled their contractual obligations and are continuing to pay unsubsidized premium on their service, they’re going to reduce the quality of the service they provide for that same premium price.

    Verizon can go throttle themselves.

  • akhnaten

    I am so glad I left Vzw.

  • Kizaru Hiruko

    So, Verizon kills off the Device Payment Plan, locks bootloaders, won’t allow Nexus devices on their network, piles on a ton of bloatware onto their devices, delays software updates, and now throttles heavy data users? It’s starting to sound like I should switch to T-Mobile. If only T-Mo had a decent network…

  • Zachary Wood

    I’m in trouble with my 30GB+ of data use a month…

    • grayson360

      Same :/.

    • Ryan Dombroski

      same

  • Ashley

    They are already doing this. I have been throttled for the past 2 months. The speed drops to 0.2MB/s.

    • Ryan Dombroski

      They cant throttle you that muck can they?

    • mlb

      same here, 0.2MB/s is what they throttle you back to.

  • Michael Singer

    I am the 5%

  • sski66

    First it sounds & feels like discrimination for Unlimited Data customers. Just because it’s just a “small % of customers” doesn’t make it alright. I’m an Unlimited customer, have been since the jump, around 14 years. Even though I do have Unlimited this won’t affect me but I got to say 4.7 GB sounds REALLY LOW to start getting throttled, I feel 10GB would be a FAIR #, but we all know who we’re dealing with, & we all knew this was coming. Verizon has 1 more step to take then Unlimited will be gone, & I hope a whole shitload of customers too. I also think this post below by Ryan Dombroski has a great point.

  • Ken Hanson

    Wow… Verizon’s data connection is already slow enough. Can’t wait to see how this affects my user experience.

    • Andy

      Slow?? no way

    • Ryan Dombroski

      Slow?? I get 56 mbps easily and I live in the middle of nowhere

      • M3D1T8R

        You probably get that fast _because_ you live in the middle of nowhere. Few other people using the bandwidth there.

  • TopXKiller

    Do they offer the 6gb/8GB switch plans?

    • Guest

      Yes, they still offer them

  • Ryan Dombroski

    So people on the More Everything Plans who pay for 6 plus gigs of data aren’t subject to network optimization? They would be using more than the top 5 percent – Looks like they are just doing this to get rid of the unlimited data customers – They shouldn’t be allowed to do that..

    • duke69111

      I just had a crazy call with a Verizon rep who stated the they are trying to push us off unlimited and then she stated that it didn’t sound right to do this.

      • Ryan Dombroski

        Yeah because if we go off unlimited we have to pay more for a plan that will work for us so Verizon gets even more money instead of the $29.99 we pay them now for unlimited

    • disastrousrainbow

      You have to remember those plans are mainly family type plans. Like my sister, she has seven lines, seven different phones, that all total 6GB on average. Now, if you’re just one line on a More Everything plan, then yeah, technically that’s a Top 5 percent user and should be throttled, but they’re not because they run the risk of an overage, whereas an unlimited user doesn’t.

      So I guess they’re trying not to add insult to a throttled users (someone on a More Everything plan) injury of having a data cap to begin with PLUS slowing down their speeds. Makese sense, you just have to look at it in a logical perspective. Oh, wait, this is the internet. Never mind.

  • M3D1T8R

    F*ck you Verizon. Given you thousands of dollars over the past decade+ as an ongoing customer on my line and my entire family plan (4 lines), never paid my bill late, always paid your ripoff bs charges, and this is my reward, a big F U. Yep, looks like I’ll be looking for another provider in a couple months.

    • PoisonApple31

      I’ve done exactly the same, only I gave up unlimited data!

      • M3D1T8R

        Unlimited data is the _only_ reason I got a smart phone with them in the first place, back in 2010. Had to endure their gawdawful 3G data for over three years (0.2Mbps down/ 0.01Mbps up, if I was lucky), only stuck with it on the promise of LTE eventually coming to my area. And it finally did 13 months ago, so my years of investment finally paid off (including $1000+ extra equipment just to get a signal at all at my house), and I was finally able to watch Netflix, yay! I figured it wouldn’t last forever, but was hoping for 2 years at least. They’ve already made it hell for grandfathered unlimited users, charging us more through taking away out subsidy and all the other sleazy things they’ve done. 4.7GB, what a joke, that’s maybe two movies on Netfflix. Sorry for rant reply. I’m just plssed it’s ending so soon, seems like I barely had it.

        • TheRealStory556

          that’s not even 2 movies. i streamed (1) 26 mins of Parks and Rec on Netflix on my iPhone 5 and it used 1.2GB

  • PoisonApple31

    This could be so much worse. Many of you are lucky they still offer unlimited tethering and haven’t capped it like the other carriers!

  • JamesHatred

    So this means that since everyone who has ‘fulfilled their contract obligation’ of a two year contract is automatically involved as Verizon discontinued unlimited data plans more than two year ago. I love how lawyers can skirt contractual agreements by changing how the game is played and the rules are interpreted.

    • M3D1T8R

      Yeah, mine just ended a week or two ago, got the last possible Unlimited upgrade with the GS3 release July, 2012.

      • JoshGlazebrook

        You can still transfer your upgrade to another line on your account and keep your plan and extend your unlimited contract, or use the best buy trick.

        • M3D1T8R

          Yeah I figured that out and just did that. Hope it all works out. I’m sure they’ll get rid of these loopholes before long, figured I’d jump on it now with the half off sale still going on another day or so. Thanks!

        • DanSan

          best buy trick?

  • Reed Kerr

    I’m continually surprised that such a great majority of users are with Verizon, paying so much every month. This announcement is a perfect opportunity to change your paradigm! Ditch the contract and switch to Republic Wireless, Straight Talk, or T-Mobile. Use the money you save to start a college fund for your kids, or travel, or save for retirement… anything really, just quit paying Verizon to be evil!

    • monkeybutts

      For some people it really is the only option.
      I like how you put Straight Talk on the list of less evil. Owned by Tracfone in partnership with Walmart, run by Carlos Slim who basically Monopolized 90% of Mexico telecommunications and tried in several other Latin American countries

      • Reed Kerr

        Lol, good point. They may not be less evil on a corperate level–I was thinking merely on a superficial level. I’m with Republic Wireless, but most of the people I know in *real life* pay Verizon roughly three times what I pay monthly, and have essentially the same end user experience. To me, that just doesn’t seem right.

        I agree that Verizon is the only option for some people, but I can’t help but wonder if many of you would really be just as happy with a cheaper carrier and some minor adjustments to your usage habits.

        Here’s an article that outlines 16 no-contract carriers, most of which are less than half the average price of Verizon. It’s not like we don’t have options.
        http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9247795/How_to_save_on_mobile_plans_Your_guide_to_16_no_contract_carriers?pageNumber=1

        • John Kitchen

          $30 a month for a smartphone is super cheap. Like, so cheap I wouldn’t trust them. Assuming you’re talking half the price of Verizon ‘s $60 single line plan.

          • Reed Kerr

            After taxes and fees, most of my friends on Verizon pay between $75 and $100 per line (with some outliers, of course). Republic Wireless keeps their rates much cheaper by leveraging the wifi you already have access to (when possible) in order to reduce cellular usage. Plans are $5, $10, $25, or $40 a month depending on what level of access to cellular you want (none, unlimited voice/text only, unlimited voice/text/3G data, or unlimited voice/text/4G data). There are no additional fees or anything, just local taxes where required, so the listed prices are pretty close to what you actually pay.

            I bounce around between the $10, $25, and $40 plans, based on what my needs are that week, and I’ve been completely satisfied.

            Again, I know it’s not for everyone, but it is *significantly* cheaper, and I think many more people would like it if they tried it (or something similar).

  • flosserelli

  • Jam Master Jim

    Over 4.7? That is bs. I can see a need to throttle the heavy users(Over 10 gig).. Sounds like a ploy to get people off the unlimited data.

  • I’m just not so sure about all this

  • duke69111

    They should have to send you a text each time they are going to throttle you. How are we to know when a tower is congested.

  • Paul Hansen

    John Legere is going to have a field day.

    • Ryan Dombroski

      His response should be good

  • Peter Blanco

    God, I really hate Verizon.

    • flosserelli

      And Verizon really hates their customers

      (but love their money)

  • duke69111

    I’m already not getting the 5mb download speed at my house they promise. Throttle that even more and we have a problem.

  • King of Nynex

    Buy our phones with 2k screens that allow you to watch crystal clear video content! Wait, you wanted to do that on OUR network? Nice try, thief.

  • dizel123

    Dammit I’m in the top 5%…but the way I rotate updates between lines to get the upgrade price for phones means I will like l never not be on contract so woohoo! I still loves me some Verizon

  • Patrick Sullivan

    “Experiencing high demand” is really the key. Verizon execs: more than two connections = high demand.

  • Champion1229

    Verizon still needs to answer a few questions regarding this new policy. Such as: I live in Florida and we are very prone to hurricanes, strong thunderstorms, and even tornadoes; if in the event of a major hurricane or other storm, most of the towers would be taken out thus only leaving a few (if any) still up and running. According to this article, said scenario would put high demand on the cell site and automatically trigger “network optimization” which could potentially leave me (and many others who use more than 4.7gb/month) struggling to get decent speeds in order to send MMS and use other data applications during and after natural disasters. Please tell me that during any natural disaster or any disaster for that matter, Verizon revokes “network optimization” and lets whoever can connect, connect and get information spread to loved ones or authorities.

    • Ihavenewnike

      Does SMS use the data side of the network?
      EDIT: NVM says MMS.

      • Champion1229

        Currently SMS doesn’t use the data side, however with all the talk about VoLTE and XLTE, I’m beginning to wonder if Verizon will eventually start using SMS over IMS.

    • droid army

      Verizon would probably hope that high data users die in the hurricane or tornado.

    • Kayonesoft

      Verizon doesn’t give two shits about disaster areas. Just look at how they treated New York after Sandy.

  • ronandersonjr

    It’s nothing but the ceo make more money. Period. They have enough bandwidth to cover all of us. We definitely pay enough for our services.

    • monkeybutts

      The Verizon CEO ironically makes less than the other 3 big CEOs

      But still 15 million dollars with a 1 million dollar raise over last year is a lot more than most other people make.

      According to Fierce Wireless

      Dan Hesse (Sprint) $49 million

      John Legere (Tmobile) $29.2 million

      Randall Stephenson (AT&T) $23.24 million

      Lowell McAdam (Verizon) $15.82 million

      • King of Nynex

        Dan Hesse makes $49 million? How much does Gore-dawn make, $100k?

      • ronandersonjr

        I never said he made the most, I said to make more. Reading comprehension is the name of the game

      • DanSan

        holy hell sprint is paying that guy $49 million??? theres your problem. cut that dudes salary in half and fix your damn network. thats as stupid as giving obama a nobel peace prize.

    • John Kitchen

      >lowest paid CEO in the game.

      Alright try again.

      • ronandersonjr

        I didn’t say he made the most. I said to make more. Reading comprehension is the name of the game

  • ronandersonjr

    That’s a load of horse crap! They throttle me I’m leaving.

  • Champion1229

    IMO the threshold is way too low. My measly 15-25GB per month is nothing compared to those who use hundreds of GBs or even TBs…

  • Prime7

    The sketchiest part is how they only target those who’ve fulfilled their contract term (although, if we’re being honest, anyone who still has unlimited has undoubted done that long ago).

    • hkklife

      Not necessarily. There were a number of folks around the time of the RAZR HD & Droid DNA launches im fall 2012 who reported being able to renewed their contracts and keep unlimited. Plus there was another unlimited data upgrade loophole/”bug” that happened briefly late last year as well.

  • 775summit

    yup I’m in the top 5 percent let’s hope that the tower by my house is not stressed. This really sucks

  • Ahku Droid

    So…at an average of 8GB per month, I am on that suck list once more…greedy pricks. The other carriers need to catch up with their 4G maps, like they did on 3G, so they return to actual competition and make them fight on pricing again.

    • John Kitchen

      Pretty sure it’s top 5% with a threshold of 4.7 GB

  • Pookimonster

    uhhhhh…. so my billing period starts on the 20th of every month and i am currently at 22 GB of my unlimited data in (before you start asking omg why do you use so much data, i do not have internet at home so i use FoxFi which powers my life …. for free 😀 )….. guess i qualify as their top 5% ://// damn you verizon!!! #stophatingthatistillhaveyourunlimitedplan

  • abarry92

    I just don’t understand having to use wifi. I have a crappy At&t router at my house so now I have to use that instead of verizon’s network? What is the point of their super fast network if you’re not even allowed to freaking use it.

  • Trevor

    Just solid my unlimited plan a week ago. Hells yes for not procrastinating further.

    • flosserelli

      I sold multiple lines for a nice little stack of Benji’s. I am so glad I dumped Verizon. I should have done it a long time ago.

  • trixnkix637

    I average 30GBs a month. Wonder where that puts me? Well, you know… besides screwed.

  • John Kitchen

    Throttling people with unlimited data to promise better network performance makes sense

    • Edward

      Good sir, I will take that as sarcasm.

    • flosserelli

      Welfare at its finest. Take from those who have it, and give to those that don’t.

      • John Kitchen

        OR make sure people paying for tiered data have the best experience possible since they aren’t unlimited.

        • Ian

          I guess unlimited customers aren’t paying for ‘the best experience possible’ I mean they are hardly people at all if we apply your logic.

  • Edward

    Ha…..
    😉 ……
    I guess I’m the %0.1 in Verizon’s system that disrupts them. I use an average of 25GB monthly…. Quite sad that they would begin throttling all the costumers now.

    • Ihavenewnike

      LOL. No. Over the last 3 Months I have averaged 200+. You good.

      • Edward

        200+ ? You tether? Can’t imagine getting that with just regular smartphone usage…

        • Ihavenewnike

          yeah. i pay for tethering so its cool.

      • Flame Blade

        I’m on the 200+ plan too.

        • Ihavenewnike

          Nice

    • Pedro

      “Quite sad that they would begin throttling all the costumers now.”

      Take off the costume. No more throttling.
      Bam!

  • s0uth

    I wonder how slow they will throttle us down to?

  • Richard Yarrell

    Ha ha ha this is what VERIZON WIRELESS customers look like a bunch of fools. Get ready for the monthly bill cycle throttling soon.

    Verizon Wireless sucks monkey balls period they always have since 2011. With the crippling bloatware, slow ass network, childish branding on all products, and now this.

    Plain and simple piss on Verizon Tmobile rules period nothing else matters.

    • Now Richard I do agree with you, but couldn’t you use just a bit less harsh language? lol

      • Rashad

        He is on multiple blogs saying the same thing each and every day. I don’t know if you noticed or not but he never responds to what someone has to say about him. He just says what he says and then you never hear from him until its time for the next article.

        • Tyler

          The text looks like a bot with a script from Legere…

    • dizel123

      I’m so glad you got banned from other sites. Hopefully a ban from this site is coming soon.

  • Rashad

    Wouldn’t the ability of transferring upgrades also avoid this from happening as well? Doesn’t transferring upgrades renew the contract for two more years?

    • M3D1T8R

      I’m trying to figure this out too. But my initial feeling is it won’t work, because a transferred upgrade means the line the upgrade was transferred from gets the contract renewed. So using the “alternate upgrade” method, taking a dumbphone line, upgrading it, then moving it back to dumbphone and using the smartphone on your unlimited line, probably won’t qualify you as being “in contract”. I guess we’ll see..

  • Well crap! 10GB in May. 8.5GB in June. Not nng good for me and my Moto X! 🙁 I don’t tether either. Just like listening to music in the car.

    • monkeybutts

      I’m sure throttle speeds will be fine for music. I know lots of users were able to listen to Pandora on low quality before T-mobile did music freedom. Just don’t set your music to super high quality and you will be fine. It’s really more for the people who tether a lot.

      • M3D1T8R

        Do you know what they have been known to throttle to? Because at my place I’m lucky to get 6Mbps with the weak coverage there. Sure its not 30+ like I get some places, buy just good enough for Netflix (not talking SD..*shudder*). By the way, thanks for all your helpful comments on this thread!

        • monkeybutts

          What T-mobile throttles to? 128 Kbps, I believe AT&T throttles to 256 Kbps still for their old unlimited plans. No clue what Verizon will throttle to, but if it’s anything like these throttles it should be usable at least for the music apps.

        • hkklife

          Lately i have been consistently at 2.5-3.5 Mbps downloads when in a previously very robust XLTE area. I would say this has been going on for about 2 months now

  • jim

    so if you are paying for 6 ,8 , or 10 gig every month you are not hurting the system ? really ?

    • That’s actually a very good point.

    • monkeybutts

      10 GB plan is usually marketed towards family plans but I’m sure Verizon could handle it doubling profits last quarter.

      • jim

        there are people that buy 10 gig a month, so why aren’t they being throttled ? this is just to get there profits higher,

  • David Ust

    Well my decision to get a OnePlus One and move to T-Mo unlimited next week hurts a little less. Thanks Verizon! (I use 5-10 GB a month just streaming on my commute) Being in the NYC metro guarantees I’m on some busy sites.

    • Jason Kahn

      I live and work in Manhattan T-Mobile is fantastic and despite warnings about data quality in buildings I have had absolutely no problems. I get service in most of the Subways I use 6 train and L train primarily. I average around 70GB a month no throttling at all usually get around 30 up and down if its a really heavy usage time it can drop to around 15/15

  • Chris

    When I was on big red I used 20GB+ / month at times and met all these criteria…. glad I jumped ship lol

  • rfranken

    Aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh, they’re coming for me.

    • RoadsterHD1

      mE TOOOOOOOO

  • Caleb Martin

    Data usage this cycle: 8.2 GB…

  • TodayWeLieQuestionMark

    MMMMMM, loopholes.

    I, too, can play that game, Verizon.

    • Ihavenewnike

      Curious, how do you plan to do this. seriously want to know.

      • TodayWeLieQuestionMark

        What do you mean? My contract ends later this year. They said a requirement is:

        Have fulfilled their minimum contract term

        So…according to the terms, I don’t quality 😉

        Also, I extend my contract every time I upgrade phones…which I’ll be doing soon.

        • Ihavenewnike

          Oh, how did you extend contract without losing your unlimted.

          • TodayWeLieQuestionMark

            Mmmmmm, loopholes. How they taste so good 😉

            I have always wanted to spread this publicly, but I don’t want them to take away my ability. It’s pretty much the last step I have going for myself. Once they kill it I’m going to T-Mobile.

            Sorry, I’d normally tell you, but unlimited data is how the internet was meant to be and it’s more valuable to me than internet cred 🙁

            #AholeByCircumstance

          • Ihavenewnike

            email?

          • TodayWeLieQuestionMark

            Not giving out any identifiers so they can’t ID me. Hence the redactions. Give me yours (in code to avoid bots/spam) and I’ll email you.

          • Ihavenewnike

            [email protected](dot)com

          • notabook427

            Its all over google. Let me google that for ya!

          • TodayWeLieQuestionMark

            Trolllllololololol.

          • acgr4me

            If you are willing to share with anyone, [email protected](dot)com thanks for the info.

          • T4rd

            It’s no secret, you just transfer upgrades to a line that isn’t unlimited. It’s how I’ve been renewing my two unlimited lines as well. I just got a new One M8 a couple months ago while renewing my unlimited line this way. DL even did an article explaining this a while back.

          • mcdonsco

            I did when I bought two phones from best buy online. They checked for upgrade eligibility, but didn’t reset my upgrade after the first one and I just swapped sims to avoid losing unlimited when I got the phones, but on the 2nd one they renewed my contract, but again, didn’t lose UD.

            I was pissed before being locked into a new contract but after reading this, now I’m not so pissed about it as I apparently dont qualify to be throttled.

        • RoyD77

          And in a few months they will quietly close your loophole too. They’ll keep doing it until there are few enough left on Unlimited to make much of a stink when they kill it. When they do, they’ll explain to those not on Unlimited how a small group were using 100-500 GB when the rest paid for 1 – 5, and there will be no sympathy. Zero shits will be given and it likely won’t take that long to get there. But rest assured that they don’t need you to post it. They know exactly about your loophole, and they’ll allow it for now. But when they want to take it away, they won’t even have to honor your contract date. They’ll happily offer you a no ETF out and say “have a nice life”.

          • Jkdem85

            very simple, order a phone on upgrade for delivery, but use your old unlimited sim card and not the one pre-loaded. Done

          • JohnnySD

            and the switch order never leaves your phone…if you don’t figure a way to get a Level 2 tech to remove the switch order you are in for a rude present one day.. a VZW rep said that they know the BB loophole and at some point will review all the switch orders open for several months and hit them with a $450 charge. I would be leery of the BB thing.

      • Patrick Smithopolis

        I think he’s talking about canceling his service.

    • I bought a new phone last fall when they had the upgrade glitch, so I’m in contract until next fall. The only time I’ve ever been happy to have a contract with Verizon 🙂

      • Chris Hannan

        Yep! When I got my new phone, I was like win/win for me. I got a subsidized phone AND I got to extend my contract with unlimited data for another two years. Haha

    • paulmike3

      Same here! 😛

    • Roger K.

      Care to explain?

  • master94

    I already get throttled by VZW. Its not so bad. 5mbps but the ping becomes huge. I also get a text before being throttled. I used about 250Gb to test it. Now its only 4.7. Wtf

  • Kurt Weber

    Wasn’t it just 2 years ago that they said only the top 5% used over 2gb? And now its at 4.7gb? Wow…

  • mcdonsco

    I’m not too worried about it because I’m not one of those jackasses that uses 100gb’s+ a month “because I can”.

    But now to all those jackasses that were defending their actions, I say;

    You were a jackass and used your unlimited account as your primary connection for everything in and out of your home and now, you, and me apparently, will be throttled as a result.

    Thanks assholes.

  • Rashad

    ‘Have fulfilled their minimum contract term’

    This is key for me. I took advantage of the unlimited data glitch last year when I got my Moto X so I haven’t fulfilled my contract term until September 19, 2015. If what is above is true then I shouldn’t have anything to worry about, at least until my contract ends.

  • Shawn Livernois

    I average 5gb and am lucky enough to still have Unlimited.. It would figure that comes in just above the 4.7 mark……

  • Pam Oakea

    So does it mean that if you are still under contract, it won’t happen?

  • Howdouseeit

    I used 55gb so far this month on my m8.verizon is some little f*ckers

  • Reuben Jacobs

    Damn this sucks. As an unlimited user I get upwards of 10GB sometimes 🙁

  • thom

    Even when your no longer under your original contract term subject to an ETF (read 25 months in) you are still under a contract, as are they. It’s written into the contract that the original terms continue on a month to month basis after the original term. If your using their service you and they are under contract. Granted, you have virtually no rights or benefit at that point, but it’s still “under contract”.

    • Ian

      At what point do we really ever have rights against such a monstrosity?

      • thom

        The first two weeks of the original contract term. Really that’s it.

  • billiebob808

    verizon’s gonna try to find all the loopholes to squeeze out the people with UDP =(

  • antinorm

    Does the throttling just cut you back a little bit, or does it cut you back to dialup speeds? I only have one line, so I can’t do any of the “transfer your upgrade to another line” tricks.

  • Jonathan Ly

    Pffft I couldn’t buffer a 12 minute video with full bars of LTE, they’re already doing it.

    • hkklife

      I tried to play a 360p YouTube video for my family tonight and I couldn’t do it at all without endless buffering in a very strong LTE area. I’ve used 4.6 gigs for this cycle and ironically this occured about 2 hours before I read this article. Ugh.

  • Patrick Jewell

    ITS THOSE DAMN 5% SCREWING UP THIS COUNTRY!

    WE ARE THE 95%! WE ARE THE 95%! WE ARE THE 95%! WE ARE THE 95%!

  • anthony

    At least they didn’t end it completely!

    • Adrynalyne

      Give it 12 months.

      • Andy Taylor

        Bah!

      • hkklife

        Less than that I predict. July 2015 is my prediction.

        • Adrynalyne

          That’s almost 12 months lol.

          • hkklife

            I interpreted those 12 months as “October 2015”, not “July 2015”. At any rate, VZW always does something s****y in the middle of the summer!

  • ghostrigger

    Not even half a month in and im already over 42gb. Guess I’ll be getting chopped.

    • Rodeojones000

      How to you use so much data?

      • RoadsterHD1

        Movies!!! Google Drive streaming….

        • ghostrigger

          I do not do movies as i see those in theaters. I also have never used a streaming source or cloud.

      • ghostrigger

        I travel 50 thousand miles a year so only internet i trully have is phone. I download my tv shows as my job is in evenings. I use Waze everywhere I travel. I also use sports tracker as i kayak and hike alot.

  • BRIAN MUENTER

    How are you supposed to leave the “distressed” site if you work or live there?

    • Colby

      Also notice how there’s no determining criteria for what a “stressed tower” is. I’m going to go ahead and guess it’s “any tower a top 5%er is on”.

      • BRIAN MUENTER

        Right!? No kidding. Good eye

      • hkklife

        Yes, so true. They will deem every tower to be “stressed”

  • Zack Kolev

    Every time I see an article about VZ screwing its customers, I feel even better about switching to T-Mobile over a year ago. No regrets and i have yet to lose a speed test to vz phone. Its either kinda close or a huge blowout but T-Mobile always win. And I have not yet seen evidence of tmo throttling.

  • guest1

    DAM YOU, Verizon! dam you to hell!

  • GPier

    I used 73GB last month… On T-Mobile!

    • Jason Kahn

      Pushing 80gb monthly

  • Justin Merithew

    I’m sure T-Mobile will welcome you with open arms, and by 10/1 their 2g to LTE conversion should be about half done.

  • T4rd

    Good thing I’ve renewed my contacts with unlimited data (by transferring upgrades), so no risk for me. Yes, I promise you that trasferring upgrades indeed does renew the line that you transferred the upgrade from, not the line you transferred the upgrade to.

    • Famouz Starz

      how soon / often can you push upgrades to the same line? i have 3 unlimited and 1 reg phone , i have 2 upgrades available can i push an upgrade to the reg phone, then do one a week later? or do i have to wait some time before i can upgrade again

      • T4rd

        No limit that I’m aware of. Just be sure to do it online, as no store reps would probably be willing to do it for you (in my experience anyways).

    • DanSan

      im in the same boat. 2 unlimited data plan that we are both month to month now. have a dumb phone my mom uses we plan on using her as our upgrade point. you just transfered the upgrade from the unlimited line, upgraded the dumb phone, took its phone but the unlimited data plan lines contract got extended. nothing happened to the dumb line?

      • T4rd

        I have the same setup as you, except my mom has a 2GB plan already for her smart phone. So all I have to do is transfer either my or my wife’s (we’re both on Unlimited) upgrade to my mom’s line, and yes, it does extend the contract on our lines (not my mom’s). If your mom doesn’t have a data plan, I’m pretty sure you’ll have to sign her up for the data plan to order the phone, but as soon as you get the phone, you can call or go online and change the plan back to her previous plan. Or you might not even have to do that if you don’t touch the SIM card that is sent with the new phone, so the new plan never gets activated. I’m not sure, but either way it shouldn’t be a big deal.

        • DanSan

          thats exactly how I figured it would go. looks like ill be doing that when the note 4 comes out or until t-mobile improves their coverage around here.

  • Omar Amer

    “We have the best networks” by making sure almost no one can take advantage of the speeds. Verizon.. fix your data plans. Its no use having good coverage and speed if your users have to watch their data usage like a hawk.

    • monkeybutts

      They want to triple their revenue by the end of Q4.

    • Randy

      That’s like saying you should get a Ferrari and not have to worry about gas. Everything has a limit. Even the other carriers. Read the little paragraphs at the bottom.

      • Omar Amer

        they dont need to offer unlimited again, but at least do better then current offerings. just multiply current offerings by a factor of 5 and a lot people will be happier. it aint going to kill them to allow people to watch the occasional movie.

  • LaFave07

    I take it this only affects you if you’re on band 4 (XLTE)? They can’t throttle band 13 per FCC. So if you force band 13 on your device there shouldn’t be any way they can throttle you.

    • Ihavenewnike

      Check other comments on that. Doesnt affect XLTE. Wish i could upload the recording.

      • LaFave07

        Well if it doesn’t affect XLTE it can’t affect regular band 13 LTE per FCC stipulations.

        • Ihavenewnike

          I not going to say yes or no to that. Don’t have that much info.

          • LaFave07

            They would only be able to throttle band 4. Unless there was a set amount of time they couldn’t throttle band 13 and it’s running out in October.

        • DJ SPY

          Don’t you know? Verizon doesn’t care about silly FCC stipulations. Just ask the tiered data plan users that Verizon refuses to give them free Wi-Fi tethering.

          • Ian

            False, call and they will oblige.

          • DJ SPY

            Really? I’ll tell my friend to call again. They flat out told her no.

        • Ian

          Verizon also has a grandfather clause in the block C agreement that states they can do whatever they want to unlimited users because unlimited plans preceded the block C purchase. Technically unlimited users should be grateful we have LTE access at all.

          Source. I filed an FCC complaint and went a few rounds with a VZW lawyer.

  • Tony Byatt

    And the march toward taking away folks’ unlimited plans continues…

    smh…

  • Yayyy Verizon!! 0h wait, that means pretty soon Big Red’s Legacy Unlimited customers data will pretty
    much be useless…. BWahahahaa >: D Really makes me Appreciate my Truly Unlimited, Awesome T-Mobile service. 😀

  • They just need to kill off unlimited. It’s unnecessary. Get wifi for Christ sake. #DieUnlimited

    • No, it’s absolutely not unnecessary. I sit at a desk all day and I do not have access to WiFi that allows me to stream my music library. I signed up for unlimited data and I have followed all the guidelines to keep it without trickery, so no, they do not need to kill off unlimited because of WiFi.

    • crazed_z06

      How about no.

    • PoisonApple31

      haha!

    • Ian

      I will try my best to ‘get wifi’ on my 1800 mile cross country trips. #getaclue

      • 1800 mile cross country trips you have way more to worry about than wifi, you need a plane ticket. Most likely you’re a truck driver though.

  • maansova

    Well i guess I’m screwed already with out a discussion…. My average usage per month is 105GB. I wonder if they will be any way to keep this this. LOL….. Damn you Verizon!!!

    • Guest

      Here is my usage so far for this month.. I forgot to post the screen shot LOL

      • notabook427

        I tried to upload a pic of my 172gb/month usage…looks like they already started throttling me. Lol

    • monkeybutts

      I see your problem you are using your data for tethering 😛

    • Kevin

      Take advantage of it while you can and stick it to Verizon! You should open up a hotspot to the public for free.

      • Mario Soriano

        I think i just going to start doing that tomorrow!…. No passcode for my tethering anymore!

    • Nicholas Ruiz

      I’m pretty sure your usage of Comic Sans is the biggest problem here 😛

    • FCUKVERIZON

      My personal best
      522,274,246 KB = 498GB

    • Ben Landwehr

      This is me. 🙁 Damn you, Verizon! Now I’m gonna have to actually buy TWC again.

    • Alex Niehaus

      2.75gb of YouTube? What do you do in your free time?

      • M3D1T8R

        Huh? That’s only a couple hours worth.

  • Arnold

    Well crap.

  • Ryan Dombroski

    How much will they throttle you? Would we still get 4G speeds or go down to 3G? and of course i’m the top 5%. I use an average of 17Gigs a month

  • Curt248

    I’ve been suffering with paying full price but not getting discounted phones for all this time and now this. I usually use less than a Gigabyte per month but keep unlimited for the just in case situation where i might need it. Now my just in case is pretty much worthless. Thanks for the loyalty reward.

    • Omar Amer

      eh, according to the release. the throttling is simply on a per tower basis. if that tower is in high demand… then simply move to a different tower and your speeds are normal.

      • jimt

        More like find a low use tower and don’t move.

    • jimt

      It’s Verizon, enough said.

  • Tim

    The Best Buy glitch lets you upgrade your line and keep unlimited data on it. Guess I’ll do that now to lock myself into a contract.

    • Keyan X

      What glitch?

    • XvierX

      Thanks to this glitch I’m locked into unlimited data until 2016.

    • verizonchris

      Or message me on rootzwiki under the same username. I can assist with your unlimited data upgrade

      • Tim

        Okay, sent.

      • Jason Brown

        ill look forward to getting in contact with you once the x+1 is released.

      • Eric De La Fuente

        Can you help me Chris?

  • martyjones100

    So how bad are they gonna throttle me? Will this affect streaming radio?

  • Defenestratus

    Cue thread of all the idiots posting how much data they go through as if it makes them cool.

    • Cael

      This month I’m currently at 28.701 GB.
      I’ve used 10.41GB from Jul 17 to July 24 (today)
      YEAH!

      • 0nly 28.701GB?! Pfft! I used 45GB easily last month on my truly unlimited T-Mobile LTE 😀

        • Cael

          Yeah I’ve been actually working at work and not watching Netflix and Hulu. Lol

        • Zee Masai

          I guess I’ll be throttled. I burned through 70 gigs kat month.

    • notabook427

      172 gb/month makes me cool when i am not paying 2 isps for the service i can get with one.

    • Eric R.

      I used 2GB and that’s what my plans for

  • pyro74boy .

    Shame on you Verizon your in breach of contract you morons and are a bunch of control freaks trying to claim that slowing down my data speeds is still unlimited. If it’s war you want then it’s war your going to get because I’m telling every single one of my friends who is on Verizon to leave and anyone who is thinking about switching to Verizon that they lie. EPIC FAIL ON YOU MONEY HUNGRY LOSERS. VERIZON CAN GO TO HELL FOR ALL I CARE. YES I’M HATING ON THEM AND AM VERY PISSED OFF.

    • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

      They don’t care that you’re pissed off.

      • pyro74boy .

        Trust me they will when I sue them.

        • Buur

          rofl.

        • monkeybutts

          What are you going to sue them for? You signed the contract more than 2 years ago.

          • pyro74boy .

            If I can’t find anything to sue them for then I will find other ways to effect them. Trust me my voice will be heard one way or the other.

        • Cael

          Class action lawsuit. I need some of that settlement money

          • Braden Abbott

            All the carriers have clauses in their service agreements that you cannot group together for a class action suit, you can only sue by yourself. But in reality you don’t have a leg to stand on, unfortunately, because there are also more clauses that say they can do this. The amount you can use is unlimited, sure, but not the speed. There is no such thing as ∞Mbps, as much as we all wish..your speed was always limited.

        • John Kitchen

          Verizon’s T&C’s actually prevent you from suing them and mandate that you settle out of court. So good luck buddy.

          • pyro74boy .

            I don’t care if I can sue them or not they are going to hear my side of this one way or the other. These stupid games that these companies play with our data are very greedy. It seems to me that everyone is getting more and more greedy by each and every single passing day Pretty soon they are going to make us pay to use the public bathrooms. Money is such an overrated thing and has pretty much taking over this world. So Verizon please don’t lie to me the customer and say thank you for being the best part of Verizon because you have a very funny way of showing it.

    • Keyan X

      The article said if you’re off contract…

      • XvierX

        Bingo. You better believe they did their homework before attempting something like this.

        • pyro74boy .

          Yes your right but I will still some how find a way to make them pay. Just by telling as many people as I can about how they treated me will be payment enough.

          • You better have a darn good and expensive lawyer if you think you’re going to make them pay

      • pyro74boy .

        trust me I will find a way to get back at them. just by telling all my friends and them telling all there friends and then friends of friends of friends will make them lose money. Every time I call Verizon Customer care they always say thanks for being the best part of their network so now I’m the best part of their network and I’m being awarded slower data speeds? They should say thanks for being the worst part of their network. Trust me I’m also going to give them a piece of my mind when they ask my why I’m leaving I’m going to have some very unkind words for them words that I won’t repeat over the D.L website because kids are reading these posts.

        • Keyan X

          First of all, I doubt they care what you have to say. 90% or more of their customers are on More Everything so even if you and all of us Unl Data users leave they still have money. Second, you really don’t have much to contest to since they are covering them selves by saying you’d have to be the top 5% AND out of contract, this wouldn’t even affect you…

          • pyro74boy .

            Verizon cares enough to give me a survey every time after I call Verizon customer care. Sooner or later they are going to have to care unless their goal is to lose customers.

          • PoisonApple31

            Verizon’s Moto: “You are replaceable.” You should give a good score on your survey so your rep doesn’t get beat up for it. lol

        • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

          There are more important things you can concern yourself about. They just added 1.4 million customers. They won’t miss you. Take a breath.

          • pyro74boy .

            Trust me I won’t miss them either so I guess the feeling will be mutual. LOL

    • verizonchris

      And only if you are on a cell site that is under a heavy load at the time.

    • Wow, U still mad bro?

      • pyro74boy .

        I’m mad as hell and you can even quote me saying this because I’m not denying that I’m pissed off.

  • Defenestratus

    I have to admit,

    I’m engaging in some hardcore schadenfreude at the expense of all you data leeches.

    You knew this day was coming. You’ve been gaming the system for years.

    Time to pay up or vote with your wallets by leaving 😛

    • Thaddeus Brown

      How are we data leachers this I gotta hear…

      • James_75

        I’m guessing defenestratus is referring to people on unlimited data who use wifi hotspot (via hack) without paying for that service which is contrary (and correct me if I’m wrong) to the contract they signed with Verizon.

        • Thaddeus Brown

          Not that I use it but that was a feature that Android had natively built in. So I can buy my phone but then you want me to pay a feature I already purchased by making it a “Feature” …when does the Nickel and Diming stop?

          • James_75

            No, I want people to abide by the contracts they agreed to… Or simply don’t sign them. If you claim to have a right to use your phone the way you see fit then you must concede that they have the right to operate their network the way they see fit.. like throttling certain users. We don’t have to like it but we do have options at our disposal that don’t violate any contracts we’ve signed. If you don’t like their policies then get to steppin.

            In other words, using your logic, throttling is a feature that their network had natively built in… Now you don’t want them to use it?

  • Jeff Martin

    bastards.

  • Cael

    I’m already at 28.701 GB. I guess I count for top 5%.

    • Blue Sun

      You better hope the other three conditions aren’t met…

      • Cael

        Well I have unlimited data and I think my contract is up by now… But Verizon hasn’t sent me anything about upgrading which they have in the past which is weird.

        The cell tower thing is what will get me and probably everyone is. Its too braud.

    • Randy

      Top 1% lol

      • notabook427

        I must be in top .000001 % by using 172gb

        • Ihavenewnike

          Yeah. I pay for hotspot. Not the most updated but the only one I have as my monthly data started over.

        • antinorm

          Amateur.

          http://forums.androidcentral.com/verizon/388159-terabyte-club-3.html

          There is someone in that thread who has broken FIVE TERABYTES (assuming that picture isn’t Photoshopped). I average around 10 GB, so I’m not even in the same league as you.

          • notabook427

            Its probably photoshopped. I photoshopped mine to show 999.99 gb just for shits and giggles and post on fb to see what kind of comments i would get

  • dsim91

    Bye bye Verizon

    • Ihavenewnike

      If you have XLTE you aren’t affected.

      • vwbeetlvr

        Says who?

        • Ihavenewnike

          I am the “reader” who talked to them.

          • eazy

            How do u get this xlte

          • Ihavenewnike

            Certain phones have it. I got the Note 3 so its cool.

          • eazy

            What about lg g3? I just freaking bought the phone aghhhhh

          • Ihavenewnike

            Yeah. You’re good

          • eazy

            Thank you Jesus!!!!

          • vwbeetlvr

            How does that make you qualified to know xlte is not included.

          • Ihavenewnike

            I talked to a representative.

          • vwbeetlvr

            I’ve dealt with many representatives who were outright liars or extremely misinformed.

          • Ihavenewnike

            Wasnt just some rep. It was a special division of their loyalty department who contacted me and told me. They hooked me up with a XLTE phone since i have been with VZW since early days.

      • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

        Everyone is an XLTE customer.

        • PoisonApple31

          Since the S4 right?

    • Wolfpack93

      Really? Where you gonna go and get unlimited 4G data at Verizon speed/quality instead? For those of us with unlimited data that typically fall under 4.7 GB, we still get more than double the data of the “MORE Everything” plan for the same price. I’ll keep unlimited thank you very much (but I guess I won’t be ditching TWC internet for the home any time soon!)

  • vwbeetlvr

    I wonder if the top 5% of data users means top 5% of unlimited data users or top 5% of users period, because then I’m sure that 95% off that top 5% will be us unlimited data holdouts.

    • monkeybutts

      Most likely top 5% of all users.

  • Bharath Kannan

    the smartest of us will prevail. If you used unlimited data and are keeping it by transferring your upgrade to another line and then upgrading that line you are extending the contract on your original line. You will not be affected by this

    • Buur

      Don’t think they won’t be coming after you, too.

    • Ihavenewnike

      Doesn’t work actually. I tried and it is technically upgrading you.

      • verizonchris

        Definitely works if you do it right. I’ve done it for 5+ people from the DL comments section in the last week

        • Ihavenewnike

          Hmm. Might have to try again with Note 4

          • verizonchris

            I’m here to help if you want. Message me on rootzwiki under the same username

          • Ihavenewnike

            Might have to hold on to this proverbial coupon you gave me.

          • El_Big_CHRIS

            I want in on this

        • eazy

          Chris I am upgrading a feature phone line to keep my unlimited. After I activate the new phone, should I get the Verizon rep to reactivate the phone or should I do it all online?

    • verizonchris

      I was going to post this but you beat me to it. Renew your contract on your unlimited line before Oct 1st to have at least 2 more years of completely unthrottled 4g

      • Tams Lai

        How do I contact you? I can’t find your username on Rootzwiki.

    • SubMatrix

      Line A has grandfathered unlimited. Line B has tiered data. Line A transfers their upgrade to Line B, and and Line B purchases the new phone. Line A’s contract is extended 2 years, but unlimited data is kept. Is this what you are describing?

      Doesn’t sound like that works at all. Proof?

  • bob

    As much as I enjoy unlimited data and the discount through my employer, I may have to explore T-Mobile this fall.

  • Eazy

    Cue pitchforks and fire

  • Ihavenewnike

    Any questions for me? I am the reader in the article who tipped this.

    • Tim

      Do you know something the webpage doesn’t say?

    • Thaddeus Brown

      Any proof?

      • Ihavenewnike

        I dont know how to provide proof of this.

  • vwbeetlvr

    I thought the FCC wouldn’t allow this.

    • Glass

      Only on certain bands.

  • drose0

    Boooo. I guess I’m about to get optimized. Not sure how I use as much data as I do, but somehow I’m in that 5%.

    • Ihavenewnike

      If you have XLTE you aren’t affected

      • Jay

        You are affected. If you are using the older devices with 700 mhz spectrum then you aren’t affected. This is the band that the FCC doesn’t allow verizon to throttle either that or there was a time frame given and October 1 2014 is that very day throttling starts. Good thing I left for Tmobile getting speeds upward 30mbps and up 70 GB no tethering, no throttle. Tmobile FTW

        • Ihavenewnike

          Actually no. i was told by the rep that XLTE is not affected in the short run because not as many adopters yet.

  • Ryan N

    I was walking down stairs when I read the title… My legs almost gave out hurling me into a full on tumble down a flight of stairs… This is a blow to those who tether….

    • Ha ha. Die unlimited die..

      • Thaddeus Brown

        Oh look an uneducated troll…Hi Troll!

        • Uneducated? Yea right. Trolling, having fun giving people crap about unlimited so they can be butt hurt, yes. I’m sorry I don’t agree with you on unlimited nor do I care for it. When I had unlimited I never touched 3gbs people that used 10+ gigs of data on a phone should get something called wifi and a computer. There is no way one should run up 100gbs on a phone. Stop being a cheap butt.

          • mellen

            I don’t tether at all, ever, and frequently hit 8+ gb just streaming music and the rest of my day-to-day surfing

          • Jkdem85

            I am in the same boat as you, but massive difference between 8 gb and 300+ gb like above. That’s just nuts. Unlimited plans were not made with this kind of consumption in mind. Verizon is by all means an unethical company, but that’s just an insane amount of data. When I got my unlimited plan I was on a first gen blackberry.

          • skinja

            God forbid you use the phone service you paid for.

            You must only be shopping for watches to make a statement.

          • Yea I am using the service I’m paying for. Phones were never meant to replace computers and cellular data was never meant to replace broadband. Can you hear me now.

        • Big EZ

          I think he’s just jealous.

        • Kevin

          Why are you so defensive?

    • Tim

      If you tether on a unlimited plan that is against your contract too. I mean It sucks but its better so its not so slow hardly anyone can use it. I have sprint and they are starting to do something similar.

      • Big EZ

        Not if they are paying for tether ($30.)

      • Chris Hannan

        No it isn’t. I pay an extra $30/month for unlimited tethering. Verizon offered it and I’m taking advantage of it.

      • Sudo

        Simply not true, unlimited 4g data plans can also have grandfathered unlimited 4g hotspot for an additional $30/month.

      • Joseph M.

        I pay the $30 Mobile Hotspot fee.

        I pay the fee because as a single user without a family or roommates at home, it’s a convenient and economical alternative to the local cable/DSL duopoly.

        Why does everyone assume everyone who tethers on unlimited does so against the terms of service? Just because you would doesn’t mean everybody does.

        • Jkdem85

          I pay $38 for Comcast cable, off contract, and way faster than 4g in the NYC area. Makes no sense to rely on a cell phone for your primary home internet. As a backup ok

          • Joseph M.

            Consider yourself lucky–you must have wireline/fiber competition in your area. In my area, Comcast and DSL are each about $45-55 after the teaser rate is over, more if you rent the modem. Those are my only two options for wired internet. And I don’t even spend much time at home right now. It makes no sense not to rely on the cell phone for as long as they let me.

            The $30 option works for me for now. Come October, when the new policy kicks in, I’ll see what happens. If it proves unworkable or frustrating for me, I’ll reevaluate my options. Not before.

    • New_Guy

      VZW: “DAMN!!! We nearly had him, Johnson… Okay, raise the threshold to the top 10% and see what happens. We WILL get him. It’s only a matter of time…”

  • pyro74boy .

    This is the icing on the cake for me to leave Verizon On Oct 1st. This is no longer unlimited data regardless of what Verizon is calling it. This flat out pisses me off and am thinking about taking legal action. Sorry Verizon but it’s not going to cost me one red cent to leave you’re slow ass network. T-mobile here I come Oct 1st. And T-mobiles network was rated the fastest LTE network in the USA by everyone who uses it. BYE BYE VERIZON.

    • Thaddeus Brown

      You do realize how asinine that statement is right? “Rated fastest by those who use it” …

      • pyro74boy .

        I have even been testing T-mobiles network data speeds myself and it’s lighting fast compared to Verizon.

        • Ryan O’Neill

          Lol

        • T4rd

          Can’t say that’s true everywhere though. I’ve been getting 35-40 Mb/s in a lot of different places throughout my state (KY) on Verizon.

          • pyro74boy .

            Yeah I agree with you because I can go like less then 10 mins away from where I live and I have gotten over 50mbps up and down on Verizon and I’m not even using a XLTE device on Verizon.

          • John Kitchen

            In my area Verizon gets about 12 and T mobile gets 0

        • mike

          Cause no one’s on it.

    • Yeah, U mad bro.

      • pyro74boy .

        Yes very mad indeed.

    • Minh

      Quite honestly that’s what Verizon wants. The top 5% can go abuse (in their mind) another carrier’s data.

      • Kayonesoft

        There’s always a top 5%. If the current top 5% leave, the next 5% will be the top, and so on and so forth.

        • Minh

          That may be true, but eventually they will start throttling in order to force people from unlimited plans, like at&t.

    • I’m sure Verizon won’t miss you NETWORK ABUSER!!!

      • pyro74boy .

        Being that I have unlimited data on my plan your comment makes me laugh real hard. LOL

        Also I been using around 10GB a month sometimes more and sometimes less and this is nothing compared to some people I know who use upwards of 50GB of month so you can’t be talking about me. LOL

  • vwbeetlvr

    Uhh oh, gotta stop updating my apps recklessly on 4g and do it all on wifi.

  • D. Sharer

    Who is buying phones off contract to keep their unlimited data, and not using at least 4.7GB a month?

    I have a feeling it will affect a much larger percentage of their unlimited customers, seeing as their 5%/4.7GB stat is taken from their entire subscriber base.

  • Buur

    It’s the beginning of the end.

    • Cael

      Depends. They obviously aren’t forcing people off [yet]. They’re doing stuff you get you to switch. If they had the power to force people off I’m sure they would have been did it by now. This is Verizon after all.

  • synplex

    F that! I’m easily in all criteria needed =-( 4.7GB is Top 5%, WTF!!? I used between 5-8GB on average, and top off at 15-17GB on traveling months

    • Defenestratus

      Wifi. Do you speak it?

      • eazy

        What is this WiFi you speak of? I have unlimited so that’s all I use.

        • Grayson

          Do you realize that Wi-Fi uses far less battery and is usually faster?

          • biggie

            Wifi is for suckers that are stuck with limited data…

          • Grayson

            Unlimited LTE is for suckers who don’t have a 100 Mbps, 10 ms ping home internet connection and for suckers who like to charge their phone more often.

          • biggie

            But do u have unlimited data?

          • Grayson

            Had it, but I gave it up to reduce my bill because I never used more than 3 GB of data per month anyways, because Wi-Fi…

          • biggie

            So you’re saying you can’t afford it…haha sucks to be you

          • Grayson

            Sounds like you just can’t afford fast home internet so you have to bum off of your crappy wireless connection, then you come here and post crap like that to make yourself feel better.

          • LionStone

            That’s great if you’re home indoors all the time…

          • monkeybutts

            I wish I had an option besides Comcast and slow as heck AT&T. AT&T is still marketing 3 Mbps internet as high speed in my area for $29.95 a month for the first 12 months. Can’t even watch youtube comfortably with that

          • Not, I have 10gbs of data and still don’t break 3gbs. Wifi is for people who…

          • Cael

            What wifi are you using? Are you paying for this wifi?

          • Grayson

            Yes, wireless carrier internet, even LTE, is too slow (especially the latency) to handle the ungodly amounts of data I consume on my home computers. Thus, I need fast cable internet at home.

          • antinorm

            Verizon XLTE: 27.37 down, 11.75 up.
            Comcrap: 16.57 down, 10.03 up (and this is to a Speedtest server on Comcrap’s network)

          • Grayson

            You say that as if everyone everywhere has a relatively slow 16 down home internet connection. You probably have the option of paying a few bucks more for much faster speeds. And your Comcast connection probably has much lower ping, so still might be faster for some uses.

          • MH

            Yes, and depends on where you are. If you use most “hotspots” even 2mb LTE speeds trounces them.

          • Glass

            WiFi isn’t a speed. It depends on the connection supplying the WiFi. My current home internet is 2mbps down and .5 up. Verizon’s 4G LTE at my house is 37 down and 17 up. At&t and T-Mobile have similar speeds.

            I do believe more people should use WiFi, but ISP’s need to do their part too.

      • monkeybutts

        Some people don’t have access to fast internet besides LTE, so no WiFi pretty sad isn’t it?

  • Ihavenewnike

    Doesn’t apply to only Unlimited.

  • Jonathan Williams

    XLTE “doubled” speeds. So what will this do… return it to normal?

    • Randy

      XLTE doesn’t double speeds, it doubles the bandwidth to allow a more consistent speed for everyone in that area. It’s a huge misconception.

      • Jonathan Williams

        XLTE: more bandwith to throttle…

  • Kisuk3

    Download the FCC mobile bandwidth app and report Verizon every time they “optimize ” their network.

    • Adrynalyne

      Go ahead. It won’t help because there is a stipulation that can throttle if network performance is impacted

    • monkeybutts

      But Verizon is already lining the FCCs pockets

  • landon

    inb4 threats to go to T-Mobile

    • Cael

      I’m gonna go to T-Mobile when they pry it from my hands! /maybe
      YEAH!

    • Thaddeus Brown

      This guy…the cookie…give it to him.

    • Big EZ

      I’m going to T-Mobile… when they increase their network and I can get decent coverage.

      • JasonS

        I doubt that will ever happen. They are taking in a lot of money without needing to improve their network.

  • Jaxon Wright

    BOO

  • Eric James Salcido

    I thought they couldn’t throttle this band of LTE as per their purchase agreements?

    • john0214

      They aren’t allowed to do this to the C block 700mhz.

      • Adrynalyne

        They are through a loophole

    • Guest

      They are, they’re just not allowed to block apps and they have to provide you an unlocked device.

  • Keyan X

    I feel like a lot of the Unl data customers now use more than 4.7GBs a month. I know I do.

    • Ihavenewnike

      If you have XLTE you aren’t affected

      • Buur

        You keep saying this but it’s very hard to believe they will throttle the standard 4G and let the XLTE speeds slip by. Who exactly did you talk to?

        • Ihavenewnike

          A Verizon Loyalty Member who contacted me. I sent a recording to K, maybe he can do something. They say it in the call.

          • Thaddeus Brown

            Is it legal to record a call in your state?..

          • Ihavenewnike

            Yes. If both parties are at consent.

          • Christopher Bement

            You do know Verizon was recording the call too, right?

          • skinja

            Stop being a concern troll. You can record any call you want.

        • Jkdem85

          the idea is to minimize congestion. XLTE has virtually no congestion, hence why they aren’t throttling

      • Cael

        I wanna see the receipts.

      • Adrynalyne

        BS.

        • Ihavenewnike

          I have a recording i might try and upload. Just dont know how too.

          • Adrynalyne

            Dropbox. The problem is you cannot prove the other person is not someone impersonating a Verizon rep. So it won’t hold any clout.

            The rep assumed that xlte is on a different tower and that probably why they said that. It isnt.

          • Ihavenewnike

            Hey i will upload and let you decide. Give me about 5 to 10 minutes.

          • Adrynalyne

            I don’t doubt your convo, I’m just saying how Verizon will handle it.

          • Ihavenewnike

            its cool. I will still upload.

          • Ihavenewnike

            http://goo.gl/0i0GKY Hope this is it

          • Adrynalyne

            Thx

          • Ihavenewnike

            Had to make a minor cut to it so it didnt have my name in it.

          • Ihavenewnike

            You listen to it?

          • Adrynalyne

            Not yet. I’m mobile.

          • monkeybutts

            In reference to XLTE “It will minimize your chances of being optimized” So it is still possible for you to be affected on XLTE just less likely until more people get XLTE compatible devices.

          • Ihavenewnike

            Right. Could have used my words better. But from what I have heard, that wont be anytime soon.

          • sski66

            Did u hear about that Comcast rep that basically berated a customer for trying to leave the service, it’s been all over the internet, the rep really wouldn’t let the guy cancel until he went through hell because of the rep & more so the culture of Comcast, anyway the customer was a known guy in the Tech community & he recorded the whole despicable conversation, it was bad! here’s the point & maybe an answer 4u, he put it up for the whole world to hear on SOUNDCLOUD.COM, I hope this helps.

          • Ihavenewnike

            yeah I heard about it and thanks. Already uploaded.

      • GW Norman

        so buy a new phone that has xlte and get around it

        • Ihavenewnike

          yeah. I did. They hooked me up with an off contract Note 3 for 49.44 plus tax. ( with company forever so was a courtesy)

          • RoyD77

            Until they announce in X months that they are changing to throttle XLTE specifically too. Then a few months later they’ll announce that it’s not just on congested cells but all of them. Then close the equipment upgrade loopholes altogether. If you really believe one call with one CSR means they’re taking Poland and France, but never Spain and never England, etc, I’ve got some ocean front land in Kentucky to sell you.

          • Jkdem85

            your saying Verizon gave you a note 3 for 50 dollars off contract??? I have given Verizon 25+ lines of business since their inception (well the company I am a partner of has) and I can barely get any perks

          • Ihavenewnike

            Yeah. Ive been with them forever… I’ll send order if you want

    • monkeybutts

      I think they averaged all their users put together…

    • t83

      I use 8 on average. Is that a lot? I didnt think id be in the top 5%.

      • New_Guy

        No it is not a lot. VZW would have you believe it is. It may be a lot compared to, say, your grandparents, but not a lot for a society that no longer measures in kbps, but in GBs.

        • Cory S

          How young are you? My first hard drive was 8GB. I don’t even have kids.

          • Jeff Goldman

            Try 20 Megabytes for $1000 in 1987.

          • Cory S

            That’s my point. 8gb was a lot to all of us as kids. Let alone two generations out.

          • Jordan Webb

            I’m 25 and still have a 10GB HDD sitting around somewhere. Also, a 16MB flash drive (lol).

          • KleenDroid

            Yes, my first hard drive was 200 megabytes. I had tons of space for all my DOS programs. I partitioned into 4 sections. I also got a tape backup drive to keep all my cool stuff backed up. 🙂

          • rslh

            I had an Macintosh Performa, it only came with 8MB of RAM and 250MB hard drive. Imagine that. 🙂

          • AaronS

            My first hard drive was 128MB. At the time that was considered ridiculously huge as the norm was 40MB and large HDD’s were 80MB. That was on 386SX with 3MB of ram. Oh, and it cost about $2,500. This was in about 1990 or 91 I think.

          • Razma

            8 GB??? my first harddrive had half a megabyte

          • Nonstopdrivel

            My first Windows PC was a 486-66 with 32 MG of RAM and a whopping 1.6-GB hard drive.

      • Ihavenewnike

        i pay for it.,

        • arthur rugenstein

          You just became my hero

          • Ihavenewnike

            lol.

          • arthur rugenstein

            I only use like 20 without streaming

        • FCUKVERIZON

          Gotcha beat, bruh
          522,274,246 KB = 498GB

          • Ihavenewnike

            ah, now i gotta use 1 TB. And is that really on your mobile phone?

          • FCUKVERIZON

            Used my Galaxy Nexus to Wire tether to my PC, while it was WiFi tethering to my Roku and PS3. Let’s just say that phone use to get really HOT.

          • Ihavenewnike

            You cant tether and use hotspot. ive tried it.

          • FCUKVERIZON

            Trust me, I have and it worked. Used the built in hotspot on stock android and a wired tether app at the same time.

          • Steven Van

            so its people like you that get the rest of us fcuked…thanks

          • FCUKVERIZON

            right, cause verizon is always looking out for the customer……

          • ech8ch

            thats like going to an all you can eat buffet and getting mad when people try and eat it all, lets be real now

          • BroRob

            Actually I think taking your family to an all you can eat buffet, paying for one plate and then letting the entire family eat off the same plate is more like it. Let’s also fill our pockets with food to take home for good measure and really stick it to the restaurant for even offering all you can eat!!

          • Ihavenewnike

            Gonna have to try it

          • FCUKVERIZON

            Over a year and half ago, only on 3G. Running a CM rom at the time. (1st notification hotspot, 2nd wired tether)

          • Keith Matocha

            Let’s just say it’s people like you that are the reason people like me have to be stuck with tiered data.

          • mustachio

            You can’t get mad at someone using unlimited data in an unlimted manner. Verizon sold us on a lie and it’s not the fault of the users that they used their devices the the maximum extent they were allowed.

          • d-rock

            It was never intended to be a home router. That’s exploiting the system and it’s wrong. Doing it because your home internet is out? That’s one thing…using it as your permanent home internet, you have no reason to complain about this change as those are the people who caused it anyway.

          • Cathy Krager

            I did the same. When they announced they were taking away the plans we were grandfathered into, and have to jump thru hoops to keep, I used as much as I could.

          • Jeff C

            like youve never done anything that could be interpreted as reading between the lines? :p

          • S. Ali

            Nobody forced you to sign up for tiered data, you decided you were willing to pay for it, so they offered it. Unlimited data users didn’t start this. Carriers that want to engage in price discrimination decided they could make more money selling tiers. This isn’t limited to wireless coverage either, residential ISPs are doing the same thing.

          • ja

            get real. if it was because of people like him, Verizon would be targeting people like him. what they’re doing is going after people on unlimited using as little as +4.7gb. it’s a greedy s-bag move.
            you’re stuck with tiered because you agreed to it.

          • GW Norman

            dude hit me up on face book https://www.facebook.com/gw.norman.96

        • Ajmobileguru

          You beat my previous best of 249 GB!!

        • patt

          Prepare to lose it soon :p

          • Ihavenewnike

            lol. As soon as I lose it, I am gone.

        • New_Guy

          Impressive sir

          *strokes mustache*

    • Courtney

      During a period of regular internet outages due to service provider screw-ups, I managed to strike the 100gb usage mark. I didn’t play games, I didn’t run torrents, I didn’t use Netflix. I did my work-from-home job as a network analyst managing, maintaining and deploying new network equipment remotely. I’m glad I have an unlimited plan. I also hope that a class action suit is filed against Verizon for throttling traffic for those users who are still on unlimited data plans such as myself.

      • feztheforeigner

        I hope so too. When I signed my contract it said I have full unlimited access go their network. This means NO throttling….

        I’m leaving for T-Mobile the second this goes through.

        • MistaButters

          Have fulfilled their minimum contract term

          Unfortunately, once your two years is up, you have no rights to unlimited data.

          • devonhwindham

            like
            Jacqueline implied I’m taken by surprise that a mom can earn $8130 in 1 month
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          • Joe

            I wonder what they mean by minimum contract. When I have an upgrade available and I transfer it to another line so that line can get a discounted upgrade, my unlimited line’s contract gets renewed for another 2 years. It’s looks like a new contract although it’s the same terms.

          • phonebook

            Verizon has discontinued their unlimited data plans. You would have to go into one of their new plans, which have unlimited voice and texts but have limited data plans.

          • eclipsenyou

            They’ve only discontinued it if you buy a phone “on contract”. Purchase your phone at full price (like the rest of the world does) and you can keep your unlimited. How do people STILL not know this??

          • Cathy Krager

            I knew it.

          • Brian Buresh

            Or burn the upgrades on other phones on your plan. I burned my wife’s upgrade to keep my unlimited. She uses about 1GB/mo, so a 2gb plan was fine for her. I use 4-10 depending on the month, so it made sense to use her upgrade to get me a new phone.

          • Nairn

            You didn’t seem to understand what Joe said. Read it again.

          • Nunyur_Biznezz

            It was not supposed to. Except for glitch last fall that allowed some unlimited data lines to upgrade for a day all unlimited data customers should have been off contract as of June 28th 2014.

          • enemyisyou

            I was off as of July 5th. I was able to squeeze in and purchase the GS3 2 years ago right before they changed everything.

          • Cathy Krager

            Me, too.

          • Smith

            Read his comment again. You’re talking about something else.

          • paulmike3

            I’m in the sane boat, Joe. I’m still under contact with Unlimited data and plan to re-up the same way for another 2 years in November. Hopefully that will be our loophole! 🙂

          • Brian Buresh

            You can’t. They don’t offer unlimited plans any longer. At all. If you re-up, they’ll force you into a regulated plan.

          • Dominick

            i am wondering the same thing.

          • enemyisyou

            Right. I’m pretty sure this is how they get around the contractual obligation to provide unthrottled (non-throttled?) data to an unlimited customer. Once your contract is up (like me), all bets appear to be off. I’m waiting for the Fall to see what kind of phones hit the market and then my wife and I are probably leaving Verizon after 12 years. They couldn’t care less about their customers and their prices are just too ridiculous to keep putting up with them.

          • Brian Buresh

            10 years in here. They continually provide less service and charge more. My bill is over $200/mo for 3 phones (iphone, s4, and dumb phone for my mom). Crazy! But that’s fine, if they want to give away customers who are otherwise satisfied with their service, so be it.

          • Bingo.

          • eclipsenyou

            Actually you do. It’s called purchasing your device at full retail, which is what we did when we bought our S5s, and we still enjoy unlimited.

          • TonyK

            Why do you keep writing this? If you/we/anyone are in the top 5% of users (4.7+GB/mo) you WILL BE throttled “while connected to a high demand cell site.” Through that billing cycle and potentially THE NEXT ONE TOO. I would happily purchase at full retail (which I did) to keep my unlimited data plan. Hell, I don’t even use that much now that I have decent service at my house. I used 6GB last month. I think you need to read the article(s) over again so that you understand what the change means. And if you have unlimited data but use between 500 MB and 4 GB of data per month, good for you. The change doesn’t hurt you.

          • FUVerizon

            Let’s punish our Long Term customers INSTEAD of Reinforcing our Network!!!!!!!!

            Verizon only installed the minimum amount of LTE Towers to label an area “Covered,” How could they not have the foresight to see that that more people would be using LTE towers, especially when they designed their Business model on pushing people off 3G phones for LTE devices and stopped even carrying 3G phones in order to do so.

            Get ready for an Unlimited Data plan Tax next., maybe I should delete that not to give them any ideas.

          • FUVerizon

            Telecomm’s making up the rules as they go along.

            Another reason why Telecomm’s need to be heavily regulated, instead of making B S up as they go along. You offered me a plan, I signed up for that plan and planned to be a loyal customer for it, you change your mind and want to penalize the customers for following your lead to begin with

          • Ihavenewnike

            Ive heard people have “upgraded” to a basic phone for free, but never activate it so they stay on unlimited and then can still open a new line, pay the 10 per month, and use that phone.

          • William Hunt

            Yeah that is what I did. My wife and I have 4 lines on our account, 2 of them are tied to phones that haven’t been charged since we left the VZW store and just sit in a drawer. Essentially we pay $10 each for unlimited data on our phones. Seemed worth it at the time, but if they are going to throttle our data….

          • Ihavenewnike

            Yeah. I have honestly seen a huge difference between LTE and XLTE. Not in speed, but in performance. As I said on other post they aren’t going to throttle XLTE. I now watch YouTube without any slow downs what so ever. If you have an XLTE device you are good.

          • William Hunt

            Yeah I figured that might be the case, my wife and I both have phones that support XLTE, the problem is they haven’t rolled it out in our area yet. If I do start feeling like I’m being throttled I’ll probably just try and cut back on my usage until XLTE is in my area.

          • Cathy Krager

            But you do. As long as you don’t buy a subsidized phone you have the same rights as before. I just left VZ because they did throttle 4G LTE, in my view, and the phones are way to expensive. My service depended on the time of day. Lots of times it sucked.

          • pcmoo

            You have unlimited data as long as you keep the phone you had while under contract. My kids are limping away with old phones that have free data rather than opting for a new phone with a new plan without unlimited data.

          • MistaButters

            I promise you that isn’t true. If you read your contract, you will see that Verizon holds the right to change your contract at any time for any reason. In the event they change it during your 2 years (while “in contract”), they would have to let you walk with your phone without paying your ETF. In the event they change the terms after you have passed the two years (while “out of contract”), there is absolutely nothing you can do about it.

            According to the contract you signed, Verizon is actually doing everybody who still has unlimited data a favor. They don’t have to let anybody keep unlimited.

            Of course, in reality, they are just slowly making it harder to keep unlimited so people choose to leave. Eventually though, they will pull the plug.

        • SamBoy

          My plan is to renew my expired contract if they take my unlimited data away and then I’ll jump ship tot mobile and let them pay my eta lol then I’ll use the phone I got from Verizon to use on tmobile and sell my note 3 to help pay off a phone from them.

          • Nunyur_Biznezz

            Did you even READ the article? Nope.

          • Higgs

            Learn something about phone compatibility with tmo bands. Your VZ phone will not support TMo LTE and hspa+. Yo will be stuck on their horrible 2g or old 3G network if you’re lucky.

          • Cathy Krager

            Their network is the same as VZ unless you go over whatever plan you choose, they do give you the choice to go fully unlimited, than you go 2g until your next cycle. I’ve not had any issues and the data is awesome.

          • Let us know how that works out for ya.

        • Jigga

          Tmobile service is horrible. You’ll come crawling back to VZ if you switch. In Europe, they have fair usage policies with similar concepts so it’s nothing new. Granted, local cell service is Europe is 1/4th the cost in US, but then again if you roam the cost sky rockets significantly. This is equivalent to roaming in Boston if your billing address is in NYC.

          VZ needs to be called out on their lies though. If throttling occurs for unlimited data accounts then why can’t it happen for their new tiered plans? Does not make technical sense. Their real motivation is to force users off the grandfathered plans.

          • jdrothman

            I have tmo and my service is absolutely fantastic where I work and live. I will not be crawling back anytime soon I can assure you. I have truly unlimited data with no throttling from tmo and it’s so freeing not worrying about data usage. I watched entire season of house of cards over tmo network last month and it streamed like butter.

            Throttling seems less about network conjestion and more about squeezing every cent out of people to make their phones work.

          • RK

            I left VZ a while ago, and my service with T-Mo has been outstanding. The network has been less congested and my experience convinced a few others to give them a shot.

            VZ had good coverage, and was fine for traveling, but certainly wasn’t worth $90+/m. Most places I travel to, now, have wifi, anyway, so it’s really a non-issue. Plus, I get a better selection of devices and resale options.

            No way I’m going back.

          • BroRob

            THIS! Just switched to T-Mo I have unlimited data again, no contract and monthly bill was cut in half. No issues with voice or data service.

          • Victor Who

            Of course there is less congestion. That’s because they don’t have as many customers as Verizon does.

          • Cathy Krager

            I just left VZ for T Mobil. Been a month and no issues.

        • chris125

          Actually pretty sure there is terms in the contract about throttling for network performance

      • Trueblue711

        Exactly. So if I’m paying per gigabyte all of a sudden my strain on the network doesn’t matter? Verizon agreed to minimum service requirements when we signed our contracts which are good until we cancel our service.

        The fact that unlimited customers still under contract won’t be affected shows that this is BS. If it is to truly protect the network, why would still beingunder contract matter?

        • MistaButters

          (I pretty much said the same thing above)

          The agreement that you signed only extends until the end of your contract (24 months). After that, Verizon can do anything they want and you can’t do a thing.

          Actually, if you read your contract, Verizon can change your service for ANY REASON at ANY TIME, but they have to give you the option to opt out of the contract without an ETF.

        • SamBoy

          Lol no what’s bs is the fact that they sold those tired data plans to people at really high rates then turned around and offered new crust omers more data at the same rate (you know the data that nobody uses anyway)…… So wait let me get this right most people only use about 400mbs to 2gbs a month and u want me to give up my unlimited data plan which I pay 29.99 a month for and I don’t use so I can by a 2gbs a month plan for at the same rate as unlimited used to be and then pay way more when I run out of the data that you said most of us never used anyway?

          • Rich

            That is exactly it… Even the CEO of morizon said there is no way VZW can’t make a ton of money on the new tiered data plans… Yes their goal is to get you off of unlimited and pay the same price for 1 or 2 gb plan… Oh don’t forget that all customers new or old have to now pay the 30 upgrade or contract fee… Oh and soon VZW will stop offering subsidised phone prices and make you pay full phone price of 300 to 500 bucks and they will just make you pay a fee every month for 2 years until the contract is up… by then the phone will be paid off…

          • This is exactly the problem I have with what Verizon has done. With my current plan if I can’t renew it I will end up spending at least $20 more per month with no real benefit. I have a 700 minute 250 txt message family plan for my wife and I with unlimited data on both. We never use all the minute (all relatives on Verizon) and don’t go over text messages often.
            The kicker is the data where I use around 1.5GB and my wife uses 500 MB we would need over 2GB per month with would cost more than the unlimited plans we currently have. This makes no sense except to extract maximum profit which Verizon can due because they own most of the wireless spectrum (can you say oligopoly).

      • MistaButters

        Unfortunately, since this would only effect people who have finished their contracts, a class action suit would be pointless. Verizon could just say “No more food for you” and kick all the unlimited users off, and you couldn’t do a thing about it. The reason they don’t is probably PR related. Instead, they slowly implement policies that coerce you into different plans, before finally pulling the rug out from under the last few survivors.

        • Nunyur_Biznezz

          you couldn’t file class action regardless. read the TOS

          • BIONIC

            go away tyler durden

        • alan

          I wonder if your contract gets renewed then you might not meet the minimum contract requirement. For example:
          -Lline 1 has finished its contract and has an upgrade available.
          -Line 2 is still under contract.
          -Line 1 transfers its upgrade to to line 2.
          -Line 2 gets a new discounted phone.
          -Per Verizon’s policy on transfering upgrades, line 1 gets on another 2 year contract but the terms stay the same.

          So does that mean line 1 won’t be throttled because it’s under contract again but still has unlimited data. This also the current loop hole being used by unlimted data users who have multiple lines on their account. For example, families with members who just want dumb/feature phones or those who add a dummy line to their account to get a slight discount over the 2 year contract (this is what that guy who goes by verizon chris or something does for people but you can do it yourself easily).

          • William Hunt

            I did just this for my wife and I to keep our unlimited data. Our contracted ended with both of our smartphones having unlimited data. We singed a new 2 year contract for two dumbfeature phones and took the upgrades for our lines. I figured exactly what you described that our account has one 2 year contract for all the phones, but from what I can tell that isn’t the case. I looked at the details of my smartphone line on the VZW site and it said that line was month to month. 🙁 hopefully this is just misleading as I suppose it could refer to the Hardware or something, but I’m not holding out hope to be unaffected by this new policy. I’ll have to wait till October to see if I get hit by this.

        • Ncrypt3d

          Exactly correct. Incrementalism to weed out the base of users who have been around longest. New customers are a where the money is at. More cost for less product usage and a good chance of overages. ‘Murica.

        • True they can kick off unlimited users off, but my $350.00 a month fees will go to Sprint or another carrier the instant they do it.

          • MistaButters

            Lol Sprint.

      • GW Norman

        i am with you on that if you know if its possible i do think its nuts where their trying to pull and its about time they pay out for it rather then the people

      • d-rock

        You are nuts…there will be no such thing (as there was no such thing against AT&T). You have NO leg to stand on. I’m guessing you use the device to tether your entire home and avoid buying home internet (like many of you unlimited users do). Verizon has no obligation once your contract is up with them. You’re the reason they are doing this. You abuse the system and ruined it for others….congrats!!

        • Courtney

          If you would actually read what I said, You would see that I stated that I had wired ISP issues. To expand upon that, copper thieves stole numerous sections of AT&T’s lines in my area. No. I did not tether my entire home, no Netflix, no gaming, torrents, etc. I used my service strictly for work purposes for a period of 25 days while AT&T worked to repair the damage from the copper theft while experiencing further thefts during that period. So yes. I am nuts. I protected my employment and utilized a service under an agreement that I pay for. And this only happened in one month. Aside from that month, my data usage never exceeds 5gb. Thanks for your wild assumptions.

          • d-rock

            I never said you tethered Netflix etc, but you used it as your home ISP regardless (if only for a month), and I’m not saying I wouldn’t do the same. You’re crazy if you think there’s going to be a class action law suit against them though. You technically used the unlimited data outside of the terms of your agreement with Verizon. They could have terminated your account altogether if they wanted.

          • Courtney

            Have a read of this article on USA Today. A user successfully sued a service provider for throttling their unlimited data. http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/news/story/2012-02-24/att-data-sued-iphone/53236222/1

          • d-rock

            AT&T did this while he was still under contract. That’s where AT&T screwed up. Verizon obviously learned from that and specify that they are doing it to out of contract customers, which is well within their right. Don’t like it, leave, but sue? Good luck. I seriously doubt that AT&T or Verizon would lose this type of case if the contract was up.

      • Major_Pita

        Bet it sucks to share to share your cell tower.

      • GW Norman

        ill be with you on that i hope i get some cash on that but i dont think their be one

      • Jrock

        I also hope a class action suit is filed against verizon also because I’m on unlimited data and i pay my bill just like everyone else does and it’s probably way more than those new plans. I think it’s Bullsh%t and think it should be illegal to do so.

    • John Kitchen

      Most of the people who come in that refuse to give it up use like 1 or 2.

      • I’m one of those people in fact my wife uses only 500MB per month, the issue is that if I changed I would have a chance of going over while paying more each month for no benefit. Verizon really needed to at least lower the price of the 1GB plans to something reasonable like $15 per month so people would feel like they are at least getting a deal.

    • calculatorwatch

      I only use about 2gb a month usually (mostly because I’m still on a GNex so downloading kills my battery).

      It’s ironic really. People always complain about those using 50gb or more a month saying they’re ruining it for the rest of the unlimited users. But now it turns out it’s people like me who are ruining it for the rest of us. If we all used at least 10gb a month the top 5% would be a lot more data.

      • Jason Trow

        It’s like curved grade in college…if everyone failed, then everyone passes lol. (not really, but it makes the point)

    • Nunyur_Biznezz

      Obviously not if only 5% do. A lot more than 5% have unlimited data.

    • d-rock

      They didn’t specify 5% of unlimited users. Since probably the extreme majority of their customers have data plans < 5GB, they are using all their 2/3 GB customers factor into that %. That top 5% is being judged based off limited and unlimited users.

    • John Friend

      You would think. I don’t see how the avg of 2gbs for a 3g connection basically just doubled for a speed thats up to 100x faster.

  • velocipedes

    Suckers!

  • patt

    Well that escalated quickly 😛