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Report: Google Could Launch Own Wireless Service in Fiber Cities, as MVNO Partner With Verizon

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First it was with Dish, then Sprint, and now Verizon – Google has apparently had talks with almost everyone to potentially launch its own wireless network. According to a new report out of The Information, Big Red and Google chatted most recently about the Mountain View search giant using its network as an MVNO (mobile virtual network operator) in cities where Google sells its Fiber at-home internet. That would be awesome, except Fiber is currently only in two markets. 

As an MVNO, Google would buy access to Verizon’s network and then resell it to you and I. The big question surrounding such a deal, would be, “Which part of Verizon’s network?” One would have to assume that in 2014 that Google wants no part of Verizon’s ultra-controlled 3G CDMA network, so it could mean access to their massive LTE network. With VoLTE on the way, this would actually make a lot of sense.

The Information also speculates that Google could depend greatly on WiFi access points for the majority of the service, with connectivity to Verizon towers only happening if needed. Keep in mind that Google has already partnered with Starbucks to offer free WiFi, plus is rumored to be working on a WiFi app that will help easily log you into public networks. Maybe this is all a part of their wireless plan?

Google Fiber may only be in two markets at this time (Provo, UT and Kansas City, MO), but Google has plans to hopefully expand that, and is already exploring nine new markets.

Via:  The Information (Subscription) | The Verge

 

  • master94

    I think we can all agree with this, just do it already google and stop teasing us, while your at it buy Tmobile and go nationwide.

    • http://youtube.com/coolosertech ThaCooLoser

      I was to tweet that Google should buy tmobile! But then I was like, maybe some ppl will get way to upset for choosing one network instead of their competitors and would probably cause problems because others wouldn’t want to switch. I been in tmobile for 10 years and I rather it be owned by Google than sprint. Nothing against sprint as a bad network, if I had the chance to vote it would definitely go to Google

  • tbonezx11

    Being 2 blocks from Google Fiber (promised for Fall of 2014.. Google, take my money from TWC), I like the idea. But Google, you have BIG uphill battle for my mobile service if MVNO for Verizon…I like my GSM phones, and for ME, TMobile works great … my same service would be more than 50% more expensive on VZW … sure better nationwide coverage, but I don’t NEED that & so don’t wan to PAY for it. I’ll settle for GFiber soon please.

  • michael arazan

    But Google could do all the testing for Verizon, for free, as being a partner to verizon could have access and cooperation and testing done and could get updates out on time.

  • spickle

    it’s a shame Comcast dominates every part where i am in Philadelphia, because i don’t think i will ever see Google Fiber. sigh.

  • EngineerGunter

    Hey, I live in one of those two markets, so this IS awesome! lol

  • Tony Byatt

    Google, just buy T-Mobile…

    • Justin W

      Google, just buy T-Mobile Verizon.

      FTFY.

      • Tony Byatt

        As rich a Google is, I don’t think they have that much cash…

        • Justin W

          Hey, I wouldn’t mind if T-Mo was bought out by Google, but I question how fast Google could actually expand their network. I’ve been waiting for T-Mo service for some time, and 2G just won’t cut it with my data usage. Verizon is the only one in my area with LTE. I’m in a town with approximately half a million people, and those who have cell service are split somewhat evenly between Vzw and AT&T, with Sprint trailing somewhere significantly lower with those people who don’t need coverage in the city and don’t care about access to data.

          I guess what I want is LTE/fast HSPA+ coverage… AT&T’s HSPA+ in my area is *decent*, but it’s no where near the speeds I was getting with Vzw’s LTE, or the speeds I could get on T-Mo’s HSPA+ 42mbps network.

          Also, I think, even though Verizon Wireless is worth quite a bit, I’m pretty sure Google could get a cash infusion of some sort to buy them out. A loan of some sort, possibly, though I agree it’s unlikely.

  • http://bitly.com/company-s Emily Robins

    The recent news states that Verizon Communications Inc. gets vote of confidence from Morgan Stanley, http://j.mp/vz-news

  • http://robert.aitchison.org raitchison

    My hopes were raised and then dashed in the same headline.

    <– Will never own a phone that has a CDMA radio.

    • http://www.impulsivestudios.com/ Justin Myers

      LTE is not CDMA…

      • http://robert.aitchison.org raitchison

        Verizon phones still have a CDMA radio for voice and will continue to need those until VoLTE is fully deployed (several years at least)

        • http://www.ytmnd.com MH

          This would be verizon leasing them some LTE bandwidth. They are only using the LTE part, and implementing VoLTE, they dont need the CDMA network.

        • http://www.ytmnd.com MH

          He’s right, LTE = GSM. Verizon is already working on VoLTE….CDMA is going to vanish in the next few years (right about the time this would actually come to fruition).

  • Guy Pierce

    FAKE story. Google and Verizon will never work together. It’s like saying Democrats and Republicans will work together and be besties!

    • http://thebeeobee.com/ thebeeobee

      Yeah, the chromebook pixel didn’t come with verizon exclusive. you’re making stuff up. they are partners and this makes total sense.

      • Guy Pierce

        We’ll just have to see it to believe it. Plus it’s only going to be in fiber cities. So that’s like population you and me!

    • Daeshaun Griffiths

      NO! it’s not like saying that. If you don’t recall, when google dropped n5 they said they are doing something special with/for VZ. This could be one of those many things.

      • Guy Pierce

        You’re right it could be. Just being a negative Nancy today! However, I know 100% I got the second half of my statement correct.

        • Daeshaun Griffiths

          My moms name is Nancy, imma use that.

  • Justen DeBowles

    Largest and Most developed network by far. This smells of good business strategy.

    • http://thebeeobee.com/ thebeeobee

      Absolutely. Great day (except if you hate having your data mined).

  • Iyvin Benjamin

    This is the special project Pichai was talking about, I like it!

  • brkshr

    Google…Verizon… I call BS!

  • Intellectua1

    I was excited about this until I read the Verizon part..

    • Chris

      Try looking at it from a positive light.

  • chris125

    This would be awesome if true. Hopefully it doesn’t get stuck in regulators who get lots of $$ from verizon and att.

  • Daeshaun Griffiths

    $$$$. that is all.

  • moew

    MVnO means legal access agreements through court systems or public records. It will be noticed well before it happens.

  • Kevin Lauscher

    cdma :(

    • Adrynalyne

      Verizon Wireless != Verizon.

      • jimas

        I think Verizon does pretty much own Verizon Wireless now, after they bought out Vodaphone’s share?

        • Adrynalyne

          Thats not really what I meant.

          The article is confusing to me and I am all sorts of mixed up now. What I meant was, Google dealing with Verizon as a partner doesn’t mean CDMA. Verizon is a huge backbone provider and telecom, that operates different than say Verizon Wireless. Same company but different areas. I don’t see how Google Fiber even plays into this unless Verizon is handing off to Google’s fiber service, which I don’t think it means they will be using CDMA at all.

      • ktnx

        Umm Verizon == Verizon Wireless

        Just got the notice a few weeks ago that our 401ks are now being rolled into the Verizon Communications plans away from the Verizon Wireless ones.

        • Adrynalyne

          Read my reply below.

          Verizon is so much more than Verizon Wireless.

          • ktnx

            MO and UT are not in VZ territory. So this most likely is Google looking at VZW infrastructure.

          • Adrynalyne

            Good to know :)

    • Chris

      Unless you travel the world why cry over a phone not having a silly plastic card?

      It should be built in

      • chris125

        Well those CDMA carriers have sim cards now for LTE. But CDMA has better penetration and widespread without needing as many towers.

      • drathos

        It also means locked down networks that you can’t bring your own device, like a Nexus or GPe.

        • Chris

          well since its google,…..

          do the math…

      • master94

        Plus most VZW phones are unlocked by default for world use. Though it’s limited to 3G.

    • Evan Knofsky

      Unless they utilize 4g only in which case awesome!

  • Chris

    Hopefully fiber does come to the Portland area.finnaly get to ditch Comcast once and for all

  • t3lancer2007

    I hope Google Fiber comes sooner, rather than later, to Austin. Its been an incredibly painful wait. I need them to start announcing Fiberhoods as I’m going to be moving soon and will prioritize certain neighborhoods over others based on their Google Fiber availability.

    • rawr

      I’m doing this with gradschools.

    • jimas

      Yes…I’m in Austin too and it’s a little sad that we haven’t heard much since the initial announcement….

      • t3lancer2007

        Our wait apparently has something to do with at&t owning a lot of the telephone poles.

    • ThomasMoneyhon

      Painful? I live in houston. We haven’t got anything. You have a promise

    • Chris

      breaking your bones is painful. Getting shot at or stabbed is painful. Waiting on a “promise” thats gonna take well over a year to execute isn’t painful.

      • t3lancer2007

        Go away please.

  • archercc

    So Google is going to partner up with the only carrier that they pretty much cut ties with after the fucked up the Galaxy Nexus in about every way possible. The most restrictive, closed and expensive carrier in the US?

    • JRomeo

      And after they do that, there will finally be a way to get a Nexus or Google Phone Experience android phone onto that network. Google will also figure out a way to provide better prices than verizon…. not sure how… but I’m optimistic.

      • Chris

        If that happens it would be years from now. Nexus program may be long dead by then

        • JRomeo

          notice I said Nexus OR GPE android phone.

    • t3lancer2007

      They also have the largest buildout of LTE in the country as well.

    • Mordecaidrake

      They’ve got the best coverage. It only makes sense they’d try to piggy back on them.

    • rawr

      Google wants in on the telecom/isp market, that much is obvious. Best way to do it? Buy a telecom/isp.

      I hope this will go from paying Verizon for their network, to owning Verizon for their network.

      • archercc

        If they were going to do that T-Mobile or Sprint would have been better choices. Easier to buy and control.

        • Kevin

          while a longshot, i dont think it’s out of the realm of possibility. maybe things in the financial world have been lining up for this.

        • michael arazan

          Going to cost more money to fix their carriers and networks to

      • Woodhouse

        Verizon’s market cap is $198B. Google had $57B cash on hand as of Dec 31, 2013. Probably not going to be able to buy Big Red outright, but they could perhaps deal for just buying VZW from the “mothership” if they offered a pretty penny for it.

        • michael arazan

          It would probably take more than that, Verizon’s future worth and future money it will pull in would probably push it to the 400 Billion mark. Successful companies cost more

          • Woodhouse

            Agreed. With 45% of VZW valued at $130B in the buyout of Vodafone’s stake, the sum of the unit would definitely exceed the whole of Big Red’s market cap, alone.

    • ThomasMoneyhon

      yeah this rumor has ZERO teeth. Do people remember the headaches google went through trying to open source the CDMA parts of the nexus devices also essentially giving up on updating the galaxy nexus? Yeah that.

      • Matthew Rebmann

        You’re completely ignoring Verizon’s plans to launch VoLTE. This would actually make sense for.Google to take advantage of as an MVNO.

    • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

      Google isn’t stupid, I think we need to look at this in a positive way…it’s starting to sound like Google has big plans in the works. If they are using Verizon, they’ll have the best coverage, and be able to sell devices on the most restrictive carrier and be able to control the update process of the devices. I think it’s a genius plan

      • Justen DeBowles

        Absolutely correct. 100% agree

      • El_Big_CHRIS

        hope so. nexus with verizon’s lte coverage? Im in.

    • Kevin

      google will probably just buy verizon

      • Bigsike

        We could NEVER be that lucky.

        • Kevin

          haha who knows, wild idea but with verizon taking complete control of their business and google splitting shares to essentially remove the shareholder voting rights, maybe some big plans have been going on in the background… one can hope – verizon has a lot of fiber optic infrastructure google could use for their own. we can hope to be that lucky!

      • Pedro

        VZW just spent a boatload of money to get Vodaphone out of their collective hair. They wanted total control of, well, everything. Imagine that from VZW.
        So, either no chance that Google and VZW team up, or VZW did it in order to team up with someone else.

        • michael arazan

          Verizon still has huge reserves, the 140 billion they spent came from not paying taxes for the past 4 years

    • http://thebeeobee.com/ thebeeobee

      Verizon killed my dog :(

      JK they give me the best service and unlimited data for only $80 a month.

      • Christopher

        That is expensive as hell.

        • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

          Honestly for unlimited data on VZW LTE, it’s a great price.

          • archercc

            Where can you sign up for unlimited LTE with Verizon for $80 today? Going to their website the minimum price you can get for a single 2GB plan is $90, then max out at $400+ but still not unlimited.

          • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

            Where have you been my friend VZW unlimited has been dead for a while.The reason unlimited on VZW is such a precious thing is because it’s gone, and the only ones who have it are those who are grandfathered in and pay full price for phones…since they can’t do a normal upgrade since they’ll lose unlimted.

          • Dan DeMarco

            Actually no, not even close. $60/mo get’s you Unlimited Talk and Text with 1gb of data. $75 gets your 2gb.

      • robert

        Not related at all to the topic at hand, and my answer is probably because i am signed on to a contract with verizon. But how are you paying so little for unlimited data with verizon when i have to pay around $100 for 450 mins and 2 gigs worth of data ?

        • http://thebeeobee.com/ thebeeobee

          I eliminated the $20 unlimited texting and just use Google Voice for texts.

          • tdurden64111

            So? My aunt makes $60/hr by working from home.

    • The Narrator

      Money>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    • tdurden64111

      Sir, “whenever you think that you are facing a contradiction, check your premises”