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Verizon Joins Ubuntu Carrier Advisory Group, Could Bring First Ubuntu Phone to the U.S.

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While Canonical has been successful in gaining the attention of European telecoms with their Ubuntu-based smartphones, the company has had a harder time getting U.S. carriers to bite. As of today, that has all changed and we could see an entirely new mobile OS hitting our shores much sooner than previously anticipated. Verizon Wireless, the nation’s largest carrier, recently joined the Ubuntu Carrier Advisory Group (CAG), allowing Canonical the opportunity to “shape Ubuntu into the most compelling new, alternative platform for mobile.”

Samir Vaidya, a member of Verizon’s Device Technology team states, “Verizon Wireless is joining Ubuntu’s CAG to participate in technology discussions around this new platform, which has the ability to bring new and exciting features to developers and ultimately, customers.” 

Canonical stated that they would like to have the first Ubuntu-based smartphones in two global markets by this October, with more markets following in 2014.

We have done a brief hands-on with Ubuntu Touch on a Nexus 10 while it was still in its very early stages. What do you think about a mainstream Ubuntu OS on Verizon?

Via: ZDNet

Cheers Seth!

  • Neeks

    Way to strike a deal with a company that shares none of the open source ideals we all value so much in the Linux community.

  • sgtguthrie

    Verizon obviously has no clue what Ubuntu is and stands for… Lol! Sorry Verizon, I don’t think they’ll let you bloat and lock down their OS as you would like…

    • http://twitter.com/jdrch jdrch

      … or Ubuntu phones will just never hit VZW either. That’s a possibility too.

  • Tyler

    I never though I would see Verizon and first in the same sentence.

    • http://twitter.com/jdrch jdrch

      4G LTE?

  • Kanaga Deepan N

    And finally it will ask Canonical to LOCK its bootloader with Military grade Encryption…

  • Tyler Kevin Powell

    Awesome. Some more competition. Can’t wait to see what android does to keep us with them.

  • valapsp

    i love this OS. srsly!

  • SS

    I’d get it as long as it does not include any Google/Microsoft NSA type tracking.

  • Patrick Crumpler

    Lol. Verizon can poorly handle Android. Imagine the update cycle for Ubuntu.

  • chris125

    Aka wants to be able to add their bloat to devices.

  • yummy

    I have an open mind, and
    will use it.

  • pfff…vzw

    VZW just want to get the low down so they can learn how to disable features and add lock it down… if and when ubuntu phones are available in the name of testing and security.

  • Robert Macri

    I hope this comes with Verizon Navigator.

    • Taylor Abrahamson

      No one will ever say seriously

  • DanWazz

    Can’t wait to see how Verizon will ruin this OS.

  • Michael

    rather have an iPhone.

    • cancerous_it

      to shyt on.

      • Michael

        iPhones are pretty smooth…DL said it themselves.

  • http://thebeeobee.com/ thebeeobee

    Best carrier, BY FAR.

  • SewWhat

    I’d be interested if they get it to the level of a singular unified device usable across multiple use structures as in their developer release video. I personally see Verizon carrying MAYBE one iteration of this if at all. Canonical would doubtfully lock bootloaders/devices/software to the degree Verizon would require to maintain them on their system. If it did come out it’d be a half bastard stepchild and supported relative to the level of the Galaxy Nexus.

  • Guest

    Uber Droid?

  • joejoe5709

    Ubuntu bloatware advisor. Lol.

    Whatever. I’m still not convinced of the Ubuntu OS just yet.

  • Brent Cooper

    Verizon is the first to work on it but could still be the last carrier to release the phone :P *HCT One*

  • Intellectua1

    I’m no longer interested.. I will try it out though..

  • moelsen8

    oh yeah verizon cares about developers

    • Tyler Durden

      Well obviously they do a little by this deal

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      hard Windows Phone fans. I make fun of them every chance I get, but
      there are people out there who care about Windows.

  • Ben Myton

    Verizon Says: Hey Ubuntu, we want to come help you develop your new OS!
    Verizon Means: Hey Ubuntu, do you mind if we sneak in early so we can figure out how to make VCast Apps non-removable and updates non-existent on your new OS?

    • michael arazan

      How many years of testing before Verizon approves an Ubuntu phone on their carrier, better be careful, we all now how operating systems on phones crash networks, pff

  • scooby

    Looks like a Motorola X… choices are always best but I don’t really care about that OS at this point.

    • Guest

      Ummm thats a gnex

      • scooby

        And that is exactly why I’m glad I posted as guest instead of my sign in. Totally uncredited.

  • El_Big_CHRIS

    Would it be with Vivamóvil? Would it be months after it’s released somewhere else? Alright I’ll stop…

    • LiterofCola

      Please

  • JonathonFlores

    I dont think we need more Mobile OSs. Just improve the ones we do have and burn Windows.

    • Butters619

      Choice is always great.

      • JonathonFlores

        Nobody cares about Windows. Marketshare shows that. Consumers and Devs want no part of Windows Phone.

        • Butters619

          I have a few friends that are die hard Windows Phone fans. I make fun of them every chance I get, but there are people out there who care about Windows.

          • zurginator

            Congratulations, your comment got jacked by one of the spam bots.

            Also i like what MS is doing with Windows Phone. I liked it more before they gave in and got rid of the negative space on the home screen though. Then again the Zune HD is probably still one of my favorite mobile devices….

  • Damian

    Android will still be my OS of choice, but thanks anyways!

  • Joseph Barrientos

    i agree, i enjoy it, i think its absolutely beautiful, but i wouldnt use it as my DD

  • Eric R.

    FAIL!!!!

  • John Burke

    Was interesting trying it briefly on my GNex but not interested in using it as my daily driver.

    Still good to see more choices in OS’ though. I just personally don’t think there’s room for a 5th OS (or 6th/7th with Firefox & Samsung’s coming) given how strong Android & iOS are and seeing how much Blackberry & Windows Phone are already struggling to even maintain some marginal amount of marketshare.

    • MicroNix

      I predict the Firefox OS is going to be a massive Fireflop. Ubuntu on the other hand has a chance. They chose to come to the public with a polished looking OS, not like a fisher price toy.

  • Colonel_Awesomesauce

    Ah great, another ubuntu distro where I have to remove bloatware.

  • Knlegend1

    Verizon’s first good move.

    • Bob Allen

      Be careful with your praise. Remember how everyone was so excited to see a Nexus on Verizon and we all know how well that worked. :-

      • Skittlez

        I don’t understand why people keep saying this. the point of a nexus is that it is a developer device. No the updates weren’t as timely, but the Nexus is the easiest phone to unlock, root, and throw the lastest version on it. To sum it up, i’m still super happy with my phone, and i’m still super happy that Verizon got some version of a Nexus. Verizon Nexus > No Nexus at all.

        • Butters619

          Nexus devices are also supposed to be exactly how Google imagined them and are supposed to be the first to receive Android updates…. Neither of those were true with the Verizon G-Nex.

        • JonathonFlores

          When Verizon slapped their logo on the back of it, it went against everything Google. Who slaps a carrier logo on a NEXUS? GTFO.

        • PhoenixPath

          “the point of a nexus is that it is a developer device. ”

          According to whom?

          • Guest

            Google

          • PhoenixPath

            *laughing*

            And exactly where do they make this claim?

            Look at the Play Devices section of the playstore and show me where they state that please.

          • joejoe5709

            Does it make sense to advertise it as a “developer phone”? No mainstream person would buy it. They’ll think it’s a stripped down model or it’s too complicated for them. So they say “timely updates” which says a similar idea, but said in a way that is applicable to the common man. So no, you’re probably not going to find it on Google Play with that specific wording. But that’s part of the point of the Nexus line – always has been. Get over it, Phoenix Path. I don’t know why you’re so bent over this anyway…

          • PhoenixPath

            You just made my point. It’s not a developer phone because they advertise it and sell it to…anyone.

            “But that’s part of the point of the Nexus line – always has been.”

            According to whom???

            I’m sick of people making claims they cannot possibly back up that others will then repeat as fact. Just stop it. People will read it and they will shy away from these devices because they aren’t developers.

            These devices are sold by Googel to anyone. They are *not* for developers (though developers are free to use them if they choose to as they make great reference devices).

          • joejoe5709

            Okay. Let me go a different direction with this. Think of the Nexus line as Google’s (and Android’s) iPhone/iPad. It’s the purest vanilla software on optimized hardware released roughly once a year usually to highlight new software/hardware advances. That’s exactly what the iPhone is, right? If Apple were to *gasp* allow other OEMs make other phones possibly with a skin over iOS, the iPhone would remain their purest software on hardware designed (and optimized) by them. This makes it the perfect developer phone (reference phone is a good term as well) that will also be appealing to some mainstream folks that think software is more important than hardware. The Nexus line is a response to the skinning of Android OS and served as a developer reference for apps and such. I don’t care if they don’t come out and say it. They’re for developers and to maintain some sort of Android purity. Period. If consumers also see the benefit in that, good for them.

            I see the Google Editions as a turning of the tides. Consumers are finally seeing the benefit of a (mostly) vanilla experience, but also want great hardware. Regardless of consumer needs, the Nexus line will remain because Google will always need a reference phone free of any OEM influences the same as Apple would never ever get rid of their base iPhone line if some strange parallel universe ever allowed other OEMs to get involved. Why? For developers of course.

          • PhoenixPath

            They do make excellent reference devices and they are great for developers.

            I have’t opposed this at all.

            Making the claim they are developer devices excludes everything else that they are and implies these devices are not for retail consumers. Simple solution: Stop doing it. Call them Pure Android devices. Call them “Pure Google”..neither of those exclude anyone.

          • VT_mnt3

            I thought it was widely known that one of the biggest points of the Nexus line to begin with was to help increase the development community of Android. It may not be advertised now as a developer phone, but it’s not exactly far from the truth referring to it as one.

          • PhoenixPath

            If you’re looking to scare off the average user, sure: call it a developer phone. They’ll avoid it like the plague.

            Google knows this…it’s why they have *never* marketed it as such.

          • VT_mnt3

            Actually, the Nexus One was originally marketed as a developer phone in order to help get the kinks out of Android OS itself. They then released it the general public and Google took the developer tag off of it. However, considering they are still used as a standard to develop and test apps it’s not exactly incorrect to refer to them as a developer phone in that sense.

          • PhoenixPath

            I use my toaster to heat bagels. Does that make it a bagel toaster?

            No..it’s a toaster.

            Lots of folks use their cars to carry groceries….does that make them grocery carts? Of course not.

            Sure…absurd examples…but that’s the point. You are excluding every other market for the device when you shackle it to developers like that. It’s a retail device, sold in retail stores, and on the play store. It ships with the latest version of Android which makes it a great device for anyone who wants to have the latest version of the OS on their device…including developers.

            As for Google’s intentions with the One…I’ve yet to see any statement from Google to that effect. (It may have been widely understood by the relatively few folks who knew about it, but as far as I can tell, was never actually documented as such)

          • VT_mnt3

            You had to have a developer account to get one, man…

          • PhoenixPath

            The Nexus One was available through T-mobile and AT&T in 2010 and had open availability via the “web store” (google.com/phones/) at launch.

            Link to phandroid article celebrating it:
            http://phandroid.com/2010/01/05/nexus-one-now-available-for-verizonvodafone-too-soon/

            Not a single mention of developers….

            The HTC Dream (aka Android Dev Phone One) might be what you are thinking of (limit of 10 per dev account) and was *not* a Nexus.

          • michael arazan

            Exactly the main reason I bought the phone after seeing the Nexus phones that came out before the GNex

          • joejoe5709

            According to Google. It’s their purest expression of what they want a phone to be despite all the Google Editions and other more powerful phones on the market. The Nexus family is the standard by which developers should design their apps.

          • PhoenixPath

            Show me. Check out their pages on Google Play and show me where they state it’s for developers…

            They are supposedly (Verizon) pure android devices, sure. No one is arguing that. This “for developers” bit though is a myth. It’s for anyone who wants it.

          • joejoe5709

            I don’t have time for deep research, but this is a decent start:

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Dev_Phone “The Google Nexus series has now taken the role of “development phones”.

            This is a decent read if you get time:
            http://www.howtogeek.com/139391/htg-explains-why-android-geeks-buy-nexus-devices/

            You can find more on your own, I’m sure.

          • PhoenixPath

            Sorry,

            Not a single one of those links points to anyone from Google referring to these devices as developer phones.

            They are retail devices anyone can buy. They are *NOT* “for developers”.

          • joejoe5709

            Whatever dude. I’m done feeding your troll posts.

          • PhoenixPath

            You won’t have to go around calling people names if you stop posting your baseless assumptions as fact.

            Have a great day. :)

          • joejoe5709

            Using aggressive language and things like “*laughing*” make you a troll. You’re a very skilled troll and obviously an intelligent person, but undeniably an angry troll bent on sparking a senseless debate on a practically unrelated post regardless of the facts presented. I apologize to everyone else for continuing this lengthy battle.

          • PhoenixPath

            Laughing is aggressive? You must lead a very sheltered life, my friend.

            I laughed because you responded by saying “Google” made the claim…something I’ve heard before and knew for a fact was a claim they had never made. A claim you yourself have since backpedaled on.

            “troll” “battle” “senseless”

            Who’s words are those? Who’s being aggressive???

            If you think it is so senseless, why make such a big deal out of it? If it didn’t matter, you’d stop referring to them as “developer devices” and be done with it. Apparently, you feel the need to continue making that statement…without being able to validate it.

          • Butters619

            They definitely started out as developers devices. In recent years (pretty much since the Verizon G-Nex) they have moved on to become clean Android products.

          • PhoenixPath

            “They definitely started out as developer and enthusiast devices.”

            Enthusiast, sure. And the HTC Dream was certainly a dev phone…but it also wasn’t a Nexus (came before and is what I believe spawned the “belief”).

            Think about it this way:

            A large knife can cut carrots and meat…but would you call it a carrot-chopper?

            Would you tell anyone you thought might buy it that it was a great knife for all kinds of uses…or would you limit your description of it’s abilities to “it chops carrots real good.”

          • Skittlez

            the fact that it’s got the biggest dev community of any phones out, shows that it’s considered by android enthusiasts to be a dev phone. Obviously this phone isn’t marketed to the regular consumer. the S4 and other skinned devices are. if a regular consumer looks at the then S3 and Nexus side-by-side, of course they’ll get the S3. You can look at 2 apps at once and you can get all kinds of other gimmicky features

          • PhoenixPath

            “the fact that it’s got the biggest dev community of any phones out, shows that it’s considered by android enthusiasts to be a dev phone.”

            You have CM, AOKP, and a few other on every single device on any given enthusiast site. By sales numbers alone there are more ROM’d S3 users out there than Nexus users.

            (and far more fans of ROMS out there than actual devs, which by your logic, would make them “fan” phones)

            “Obviously this phone isn’t marketed to the regular consumer.”

            Could have fooled me. I was introduced to the line by a “regular consumer”. He owned the Nexus S and never once flashed a ROM or even heard of XDA.

            ” if a regular consumer looks at the then S3 and Nexus side-by-side, of course they’ll get the S3.

            I’d love to see the numbers you’ve gathered to support that…

          • Skittlez

            you really want to go as far as saying that you think the S3 has a bigger dev community, just because more units sold? thats ridiculous. what makes a dev community so large is the ability to make mods to that device. logically, the easiest device to work with, would be the device that the OS was designed to operate on, in this case, the nexus devices. the problems with other devices are the fact that there are other screen resolutions, chipsets, and so on. so there need to be tweaks made. There is a reason why ubuntu is being shown everywhere on a nexus device. and just because you were introduced by a regular consumer, doesn’t mean it was marketed to regular consumers. There is a difference. There was a super bowl spot for the S3 for crying out loud. I only saw a commercial for the Nexus when it was on sale for $99.

            Edit: if you look at Rootzwiki, there is 14 pages of Verizon Nexus development pages, and only 4 on the Verizon S3. Ease of bootloader unlocking has a lot to do with it too.

          • PhoenixPath

            “logically, the easiest device to work with, would be the device that the OS was designed to operate on, in this case, the nexus devices”

            You do realize you just said the s3 was not designed for android, right? The most popular devices attract the most devs… but this is not the right devs anyway… Nexus wasn’t created for ROMs. If Google had it in their minds to make devices for devs at all it was for OEMS and application developers, not android hacktivists.

            “if you look at Rootzwiki”

            Not that it’s relevant, but look at xda and any nexus vs the int’l S3. Different picture.

          • michael arazan

            I bought a GNex for the promise of stock android and fast updates so I didn’t have to unlock and root the device to install roms because the device would never get updated again like every other device, which every nexus was and is after the vzw GNex. And it was advertised as such by verizon

          • PhoenixPath

            Exactly. You didn’t use it for development, you bought it for the “Pure Google Experience”.

            (Hopefully, it wasn’t the VZW one…) *grin*

        • joejoe5709

          Yes. Thank you Skittlez. I still love my GNex. I was never very interested in the Nexus4 and sure… I get jealous of the spiffy new hardware out there, but I’m still pretty happy with it. Like a semi-old vehicle that needs a little work occasionally but fits you like a glove.

      • joejoe5709

        “we all know how well that worked out”

        You mean one of the most popular and prolific developer/enthusiast phones of the last 2-4 years despite the Nexus4 being released? Many of DL readers are still rocking their GNex. It still remains the only Nexus with LTE. You mean the phone that has held its own against much more powerful phones and has only recently started to show its age? Granted, some of this is due to the dev community and almost none of the praise can be attributed to Verizon but it’s a fantastic phone regardless of Verizon’s handicaps.

        • VT_mnt3

          It would probably still be phone of choice for the next year or so if it had better battery life and maybe some more ram.

        • Mitch Joa

          Like Kellex said in last night’s show, most Gnex owners are only just now up for contract renewal. Might have something to do with why they’re still rocking the Gnex..

          • Pengwn

            If my mother didn’t need a new phone, I’d rock my GNex well after my contract. I’m up for an upgrade in August but could have easily held onto that phone for another 1-1.5 years. It’s still a solid, beautiful device(battery issues aside) that meets my needs!

      • Tyler Durden

        Good thing its a nexus you can put the newest software on there without waiting.

      • Knlegend1

        I think you looking at it wrong. Regardless of what network, this is good for Ubuntu and Linux coming to the mainstream. Eventually they may even have their own devices. I think this is really good.