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OUYA CEO Says Console Will Follow Mobile Update Model, New Hardware Every Year

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The Kickstarter darling OUYA was born from the mobile market, having components powering it that you would find in smartphones and tablets around the world. OUYA will apparently be influenced by the mobile market’s style of updating as well. Whereas traditional game consoles have a cycle of 7-10 years, the OUYA will be refreshed with new hardware every year, according to the company. 

CEO Julie Uhrman, during her DICE 2013 appearance, went on record as saying there will be a new OUYA every year. “There will be an OUYA 2 and an OUYA 3″ as they take advantage of better and faster processors and falling prices. Understandably some people are unsettled by this news but Uhrman explained that all games will be backwards compatible between the different hardware versions of the OUYA, allowing you to play any game on any console.

The question remains, is this a good idea? Part of the long console cycle is that developers are just now figuring out how to use the Xbox 360 and PS3 to their full potential. Yearly cycles of hardware won’t leave developers a lot of tinkering time on their game before they have to anticipate different hardware.

Then again, the OUYA is shipping with an older chipset by mobile standards, in the Tegra 3. It’s also sporting a lowly 1GB of RAM, so if it plans to follow mobile patterns, it makes sense for it to see upgrades on a yearly basis.

Backers of the OUYA are getting theirs next month and full retail sale starts in June, so we’ll see how this experiment in changing up traditional consoles pans out pretty soon.

Via: Engadget

  • J Dub

    Leave the board layout exactly the same. Sell it as a whole unit or as a board upgradable by the user. Have the bluetooth and wifi chips separate. Those can also be updated as wantedneeded.

  • John

    That’s lame. My PS3 is lasting more than 5 years now.

  • Otto Dieffenbach

    now we’ll be like iphoney users, wait for next years model because this years isnt that good. grumble.

  • shecalledmejay

    I say great because I soon want to be able to play my psx emulator or ds emulator as fast as the gba emulator is

  • xXAaronSXx

    The thing that frightens me a little bit about this is I hope I’m never waiting for my Ouya 1 to upgrade to the OS that the Ouya 2 has been running for, say, 6 months. I hope they follow the (here it comes) iPhone model, where the new one comes out and all (most) of the previous versions are upgraded to the OS version that the new one is on.

  • rockstar323

    Well that’s one way to shoot yourself in the foot. Yearly upgrades will not work for game consoles. If all the games are going to be backwards compatible, why upgrade? If I’m waiting 6 months to see if this console will flop or not, why not wait a bit longer and get better hardware? The gaming industry is even more cut throat than the mobile industry, you need to excel at everything if you hope to be anything more than other poorly executed good idea. I think they made a huge mistake by saying they are releasing a new console every year and think it will come back to bite them in the ass. Hell even phone manufactures, where we know there will be something better in 6-12 mos., don’t come straight out and say “next years phone will be better”.

  • JulianZHuang

    the moment you bought your phone, it’s outdated, unless it’s an iphone. cause iphone user dont even care those stuffs. they just care about battery life.

  • mustbepbs

    Who would want to buy an updated Ouya every year for $99, when they could purchase a real home console for $350-$400 and it would last them a lot longer, have more substantial games, and better features?

    I’m still shocked this got past the Kickstarter.

    • sirmeili

      Who said you had to update every year? At the same time, if they update the hardware every year for new buyers, what’s the problem? That’s like saying TV manufacturer’s shouldn’t release new models because everyone would be expected to upgrade.

      I’m sure the games will last a few generations at least giving you 1-3 years of use out of each iteration of the console.

      I’m also hoping for a “console only” upgrade since I purchased 4 controllers. If a controller goes for $50, I’m hoping for a $50-60 “upgrade” at most every year.

      • Fattie McDoogles

        One thats a terrible reference. TV using streaming content that does not need to be updated like games are updated to utilize each new version of gaming hardware. If you bought a converter box you can still use your TV from 50 years ago to watch TV.

        Two… we don’t know how long each game will be supported. That’s one of the big issues with the mobile industry currently. I hope you really don’t think its going to just magically disappear on a console. And why would developers update a game when they can sell you a new version of it each year like they do with the current collection of console games.

        • sirmeili

          “Two… we don’t know how long each game will be supported. That’s one of the big issues with the mobile industry currently. I hope you really don’t think its going to just magically disappear on a console. And why would developers update a game when they can sell you a new version of it each year like they do with the current collection of console games.”

          So you have the that same issue with console games. As a matter of fact, until recently, if you bought a console game FOR $50!, you got no support after the fact whatsoever (they are better at this, at least on the PS3). And yes, there are games today that are being released for the PS3 that will likely not work on the PS4 that will be released by the end of the year, and those games new, will likely cost upwards of $60. How do you justify that? Should they stop making games for an existing console 6 months, 1 year, or even more before the release of the next?

          And like I said before..these will likely be “cheaper” games, so even if I have to upgrade once a year, I honestly think I’d be a head of the game in cost compared to a PS4 or Xbox720.

          • mustbepbs

            Most games that you spend $60 have a lot more content than Android games. And developers have issued updates for their games on consoles in the past. They are certainly doing it now. I got a few updates on my Wii U for some of the games I have on it.

            Ouya is definitely targeting a different market than the gamer crowd that purchases PS4/720/Wii U. Android games aren’t very deep and they aren’t very substantial. Even the “core” offerings can’t shake a stick at the AAA titles on consoles.

          • sirmeili

            I think you find that because people don’t need that “deep” of a game for a phone or tablet, hence you don’t have it. Move it to your TV and you might very well want it, and you’ll be able to get it (developers will have to see a market for it). I also feel as though you could get it for a lower cost due to not having the licensing fees associated with the mainstream console model.

          • Fattie McDoogles

            Games get support on consoles both Xbox and PS3. The issue with OUYA is if they release a console every year what incentives do developers have to continue to release titles that work on multiple versions of OUYA’s? Consoles have a lifespan of several years meaning that unless you are buying a console or games as a new console is getting ready to be released you are still getting your money’s worth out of the console and games.With OUYA it doesn’t seem like that will be the case because of the turnaround rate on the consoles. And yes companies do stop producing games for older consoles within a few months of the new consoles release.

            What you are forgetting is we aren’t talking about you. Or for that matter any of “us”. We are a small niche group of people. We have different needs and wants then the “average consumer” who OUYA has to get to buy this console in order to be successful. And to be honest having to buy new hardware as well as new games each year is a strong reason for not purchasing OUYA over an Xbox or Playstation.

          • sirmeili

            yes, I might have to buy new hardware every couple of years, but at the fraction of the cost of a mainstream console. I still don’t see the downside to this.

            Its not like OUYA costs $400-600 and I will have to update it once a year in order to get new games.

            And we are talking about me. I’m the target audience for this console: A light gaming console with some media streaming functionality (hopefully, at least I’ll get XBMC). Why pay $400 for a bigger console when I can get the same functionality (performance I can live with) for a lesser price. I own a PS3, I haven’t bought a game in over a year. However, I might buy a $6-10 game to mess with on the OUYA.

      • mustbepbs

        The only reason you would purchase a new TV is because you want a bigger one. Totally different than gaming hardware.

        I’m sure there’s going to be plenty of games each year that push the envelope with the hardware that’s released. Tegra 3 is old news before this thing is even released. Tegra 4 will be the big thing this year, along with “console quality” games that will require something more than a Tegra 3.

        My point is, for something that’s aiming at the Android gaming scene, it needs the best of the best, and Tegra 3 isn’t it. I’m sure once Ouya 2 is released, it’ll be behind the curve again. It’s just a mess that only smartphones and tablets with their short shelf life can tackle. Dedicated Android gaming hardware is not going to fly.

        • sirmeili

          Ok, so then let’s release a $600 Android gaming console and hear you complain that, though, yes it performs like a mainstream console, who would want to pay that much for it?

          It’s $100 for the console and 1 controller. It’s not meant to compete with the performance of mainstream consoles.

          • mustbepbs

            I hope you enjoy your Ouya.

          • sirmeili

            I’m sure I will, and I will be able to play the same games on my $100 device as people who have more expensive tablets (I own 2 tablets as well, but the more powerful, a nexus 7, doesn’t have hdmi out)

            Granted, I have other plans for it than just a gaming console as it has XBMC on it, and i have about 20TB of media that I currently use on an HTPC running XBMC. I did however “back it” because I believe in their cause to remove the barrier of entry caused by licensing fees for game developers in the console market.

    • Fattie McDoogles

      I completely agree.

  • moelsen8

    as soon as google tv gets ported in some way, shape, or form i’m in. i’m actually getting more and more excited.

  • igotgame

    Nothing wrong with that man, especially if they would sell JUST the OUYA device without any controllers..you should be able to get just the OUYA itself for < $99. Keep in mind that this wouldn't work for console makers because when those are first released, they cost in essence of $400-$600 typically. Even if the OUYA2 and OUYA3 were $99 each year…I don't see anything wrong with that. You don't technically HAVE to upgrade.

  • r0lct

    I just hope if Ouya does fail it’s because Google got their $hit together and gaming becomes a core piece of the Android platform that gets a lot more features (as part of the platform, like cloud saves) than it has now.
    Then a Google TV “2.0″ would be a Ouya equivalent while also delivering other services.

    • sirmeili

      So you’re against competition? Perhaps the success of the OUYA convinces Google that such a device, where as the failure of the device convinces Google that they don’t need to go in that direction,EVER!

      Be careful what you hope for, because the consequences might not be what you are ultimately wanting.

      • r0lct

        Good points, maybe I made mine poorly. I’m hoping (with my kickstarter money spent) it succeeds. I’m just saying if it does fail I hope it is because of competition (spurring Google to be better) not just because they imploded from a poor product or lack of good games.

        • sirmeili

          Like I said before in these comments, I think the OUYA really needs to play it’s Media streaming capabilities card if it wants to succeed.

          I think they would greatly benefit from, instead of comparing to Consoles on gaming, to including comparing to the Roku and similar devices as well. Actually, what I”m hoping to get out the OUYA is basically Roku functionality (with some XBMC mixed in), with better gaming options (for just messing around..I have a bigger console for more in depth games like RPGs).

      • penisilin REX

        if u gota penis as big as mine thats all you would play with

  • http://twitter.com/misterE33 Mr E

    one thing i haven’t seen mentioned much yet — it will be interesting if a TV oem includes ouya hardware inside the tv. it’s already small, and using phone internals, so it seems like the potential is there to basically bundle a smartphone inside of tvs, then you just need a controller. the current problem with this is a game/app ecosystem, which the ouya claims to be able to deliver. maybe not ouya per se, but I could see samsung or lg, or another tv + smartphone manufacturer, doing this

    • sirmeili

      Bad idea, IMHO. OUYA as a device is a good idea, but included in a much more expensive piece of tech means that in a year when a new version is out, you have no way of updating. Considering that TVs can last years if not Decades, you’d soon have a device with a “feature” that is unusable. This is why I personally don’t favor “Smart TVs” and opt for a Roku. When the Roku is outdated, it will be far easier to upgrade than a whole TV.

      I felt the same way when they were releasing the TVs with the Media Center Extenders built in.

  • imns

    Here’s a thought.. take apart the housing, get rid of the fan and slap on a liquid cooling rig or even better – phase change. Overclock the ever living hell out of it – it will keep up with the Tegra 6 at least.

  • EvanTheGamer

    Ain’t that a bit*h. I’m still excited to get my OUYA this March, but wtf OUYA Team? Don’t be like “those other guys” where you HAVE to release a new video game of the same franchise(CoD, anyone?) because you are greedy bastards! Don’t be like them!

    I hope they(Kickstarter backers) give ‘em HELL for that! Not a very good business move(in terms of making money, yes, but not in terms of making everyone else happy).

  • mustbepbs

    Hope this doesn’t result in lackluster sales for them if people are just going to wind up waiting for the updated model like people do with smartphones and tablets.

    • Fattie McDoogles

      They’re going to be need one hell of a marketing campaign.

    • r0lct

      But people buy 100s of millions of smartphones every year. So I’m not sure users waiting is a real problem. I think they are other larger obstacles for long term success.

      • mustbepbs

        Yeah but smartphones appeal to everyone, this is just niche.

        • r0lct

          I agree. This may be a total failure in the long term. But I don’t think a new console every year will hurt their chances any more that it does for tablet sales which a new one every year.

          • Fattie McDoogles

            But thats different. Tablet can be used for a variety of things. This can’t. It’s just a gaming console. Sony, MS, and Nintendo’s consoles would tank if they made you buy new hardware every year.

          • sirmeili

            It’s also got XBMC and hopefully netflix, hulu, and so on. It would be no different than a Roku at that point with better gaming capabilities. And as I see it, the Roku is doing quite well. If they get the aforementioned plugins in check and advertise it right, I think it could be quite successful as a Media/Gaming device.

          • Fattie McDoogles

            But Roku relies on subscription based content and hardware that doesn’t need to be updated often because everything is online. OUYA will require updated graphics cards and processors to play games. And if they update every year that could make it extremely hard to keep up

          • sirmeili

            I think it’s a failure to compare this to consoles like the PS, XBox, and Wii. These will be fore moderately light gaming. If the Wii showed us anything, it was that you didn’t have to have the best graphics in the world in order to get people to use your device. There is no way this could ever compare to devices like that, mainly due to the cost of production. When the PS4 is released, Sony will take a loss on every console sold for a long time, it’s hwo the model works. They make money on the licensing to make games for the console, not the consoles themselves. OUYA is trying to remove that barrier to entry by removing the licensing fees. So yes, the console costs “more” for the level of performance it gives, but the price of games should also be lower.

            Add to that, the hopeful “console” only upgrade every year (My idea, though I hope OUYA considers it), I could easily see upgrading for $50-60 every year or every other year.

            I honestly think as long as they market it correctly as a gaming device with media capabilities (via Hulu, Netflix, Amazon, etc), they will do just fine.

      • Fattie McDoogles

        I agree… but are real people interested in this? I’m not talking about us the tech community who have been following this thing since inception, but is the general population really interested in something like this? Do they really want another console to play Fruit Ninja on or Angry Birds? I’m sure Gameloft and other mobile gaming companies will get behind this but what about the console companies? Do you think EA will bring over their titles? What about COD? I think that is going to really play a role in the success of this thing.

        • r0lct

          I have no idea, I’m just going a long for the ride as a kickstarter backer.

          However to be successful in my opinion they don’t need COD, Halo or any of the other big tittles. People spending $100 on a game system have different expectations and uses. Same way someone buying a Honda accord isn’t expecting BMW performance. However if you only need a Honda you may not care the BMW is faster as you rather spend your money on other things.

          • Fattie McDoogles

            But this is different than cars. People NEED cars. And if they can afford them, they buy better cars. People don’t need OUYA. And they are entering a market that already has heavy hitters. The only way to compete is to offer the same kind of experience and quality but with a cheaper price point. Otherwise people will just that $150 for a console and buy more games for their other consoles.

          • sirmeili

            You say this, but look how long the PS2 lasted past the release of the PS3. To the point where Sony removed the PS2 backwards compatibility because those that really wanted to play PS2, just bought one (and a far cheaper price than the PS3. While you might get similar games for the PS2, you definitely don’t get the same experience as you do on a PS3.

            And even for a while, you could still buy PSOnes as well.

          • Fattie McDoogles

            The PS2 is the best selling console in history. Everyone still had one so of course games continued to come out for it after the PS3 came out. EVERYONE STILL HAD ONE. OUYA is not going to make the best selling console in history. Let’s be honest about that fact. You are making a comparison using an extremely skewed example.

          • sirmeili

            You’re missing the point, not only were PS2 games still being made, Sony still was selling the consoles themselves quite well (helping make it the best selling console of all time)! So I don’t get your point? People were still opting for a lesser experience in order to save money (PS2 over PS3, though there is some over lap of those that just bought one of each regardless of the PS3′s backwards compatibility)

            What I’m trying to make a point is that you said people would always opt for a better better experience regardless of price, and the PS2 (as well as the Wii) proved that wrong. You could easily take the “advanced graphics” out of the equation and the OUYA could definitely compete in game play on lesser components (Game play is more a factor of design, than of performance)

            As a matter of fact, your argument seems to be that for any item that is not “necessary” a person will always opt of the more expensive option as long as it gives a better experience, and I have to say I disagree. People don’t always buy the best TVs, Phones, etc. Some people might enjoy a console for $100. And even if they upgrade every year, $100 every year is easier to do than $400-600 at once.

          • r0lct

            The market is full of popular things nobody really needs, like PS3 and XBOX.

            Not everyone who can afford a luxury car buys them (and not everyone who buys one can truly afford one) it comes down to what the person feels are their needs.

            This is where the $100 price point comes in.

            They are competing with XBOX/PS3 in the same way a Honda Accord is competing with BMW 3 series. Not really at all, they are targeting two different demographics in the same industry.

        • sirmeili

          As I said earlier to on of your comments. If they get the Media sources (Amazon, Hulu, Neflix, etc) and market it correctly as a Gaming system with good media streaming functionality, I could easily see this being as popular if not more so than the Roku (similarly prices for their high end version). They could even design and release a “remote control” ala PS3 BR remote to help move it along.

  • Jonathan Bunch

    Would be cool if upgrades to hardware could be done by the user like in PCs

    • Big_EZ

      That’s what I want to see. I think it’s too late for the first generation Ouya, but in the next one they should have a swappable chip set and ram so you use the shell, ports, controller, and power supply for national cheaper upgrade.

  • r0lct

    I think the only people going nuts are the ones naive enough to believe you HAVE to buy one every year. Just like your cell/tablet you can do it at your own pace.

    They need to do this as games are mostly going to be Android ports. So as the phones/tablets get more powerful they don’t want to get left behind with newer games that can’t play on older hardware.

    Wouldn’t prefer if you bought an Xbox or PS3 today it had upgraded hardware you weren’t buying 7 year old tech? I’m not sure how getting better value for your money is a bad thing.

    • Fattie McDoogles

      Then why update it every year? You might as well only release hardware every other year or every few years like consoles already do.

      • r0lct

        Well I think every other year might be a better way to go as well, but I guess we’l see if they develop any sort of loyalty program to balance concerns.

        • Fattie McDoogles

          I just don’t think this will do well if you have to buy new hardware and new games every year. Especially when you can get a console now and only have to update the hardware every few years.

          • r0lct

            Well you still don’t have to buy one every year. You can choose your own upgrade cycle.

          • http://twitter.com/acogg Adam Coggins

            Why would you have to buy new games? I mean, outside of the new games a player is always buying anyway.

    • EricRees

      The problem arises when games might stop working for older versions of the console. If (and that’s a big if) it starts happening, I can see people turning away pretty quickly.

      • r0lct

        The same way game devs on phones/tablets cater to the largest audience I would imagine so will ouya devs.
        I can’t imagine unless it was technically necessary based on the new hardware any dev would release a game they couldn’t sell to at least the current 3 generations.

      • Symbiotx

        Exactly. That’s what I see being a problem, when you can’t play certain games because it was built for the ouya with more RAM or whatever.

        • r0lct

          Hasn’t hurt mobile gaming on Android or iOS and their specs improve every year.

          • Fattie McDoogles

            But this is different. The mobile gaming platform is a far different structure than the one console gaming follows. When you update the hardware you rarely get games made for the old hardware. And you pay each time a new version of a game comes out and they come out yearly like clock work. You also pay more for console games as well.

          • Symbiotx

            So far, it has been mostly casual games with low specs. With their venture into a console environment, things are going to get more intensive. Good things are happening like with the unreal engine, but as things progress, I can see fragmentation happening. It’s a legitimate concern.

      • EvanTheGamer

        Yep, exactly! If they want to continue to get our business, every game(or most) should still be optimized to work with this years OUYA. Would be pretty bad for ‘em if that isn’t the case. Even if the high end games graphics are downgraded a bit to work with previous OUYAs, I’d be okay with that.

        That is unless some games ONLY work with certain hardware(like Tegra 4), then well…not sure what they can do. Or just make two versions of games(one that’s T3 and one that’s T4).

  • http://twitter.com/na3800 Aaron

    In actuality this is likely their way of generating a continuing revenue stream, rather than licensing software like a standard console

  • http://www.facebook.com/smartguy0101 Anthony James

    I don’t really care, I’m going to get one and use it for XMBC and maybe a little gaming. For my serious gaming I have an awesome PC and a 360.

  • b00sted

    I am mainly going to be using it as a emulation/xbmc box so I don’t see a issue with this..

  • Masterminded

    So… This year’s OUYA is already outdated?

    • Fattie McDoogles

      Correct. Its running last year’s internals.

      • r0lct

        Since there’s no Tergra 4 shipping any time soon it may not be brand new but it’s also not outdated.

        • Fattie McDoogles

          Right but it will be within the next 6 months.

          • sirmeili

            So they should wait? but then in 6 months should they wait to release one until the next version of Tegra after that?J

            6 months after the PS4 and the Xbox270 come out they will be “outdated” in a sense. It’s just how technology works. Advances are happening just too fast to expect it any other way.

          • Fattie McDoogles

            Not true. There won’t be a successor to outdate them. Phones become outdated because a phone with newer hardware comes out. The Xbox and PS3 aren’t outdated now. They are pretty damn old but they aren’t outdated. Until their successors come out with new hardware and features they won’t be outdated.

          • sirmeili

            “Not true. There won’t be a successor to outdate them. Phones become outdated because a phone with newer hardware comes out”

            Yes, very true. It will be outdated by it’s competitors (PCs) and the technology will be outdated no matter what.

            This also is not in direct competition with “phones” so it doesn’t matter if phones that are faster come out.

            ” The Xbox and PS3 aren’t outdated now.”

            Yes, they are very outdated in terms of technology. Just because you don’t have a PS4 to compare it to in the market, doesn’t make the technology any less outdated. Modern PC gaming has been out doing the consoles pretty much always. It boggles my mind how you just don’t want to compare them to consoles, buy you want to compare phones to the OUYA. And now that the next gen PS4 will have closer to PC components, it will be an even more direct comparison.

          • Fattie McDoogles

            That’s not true at all. PC gaming is not “outdoing” console gaming by any stretch of the imagination if you are comparing like games. WOW and other MMO’s have more people playing then most consoles but those games aren’t offered on consoles so it’s not a direct comparison.

          • sirmeili

            You are sadly mistaken, the PC versions of most games will more often than not (by a long shot) out perform the equivalent on a console mainly due to newer components and ability of those components to process information. The cheapest gaming card out today will very likely out-perform a PS3 or Xbox 360. No I’m not talking about MMORPGs, I’m talking about Far Cry series, Crysis, and so on. They offer a “better experience”, however at a bigger expense to the user. They also offer the ability to upgrade the machine as time goes on, which you don’t get with a console.

            Are there games out there that don’t optimize for the PC, sure, but it doesn’t change the fact that the PC is by far a better performing gaming machine than any console released.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Greg-Filardo/100000615766378 Greg Filardo

            I can’t believe you just had to explain that to someone on a tech website…

    • r0lct

      So are this years phones, cameras, tablets, etc.

      • Fattie McDoogles

        Not true. No flagship phone has come out there year yet and the phones that came out at the end of last year aren’t outdated yet and probably won’t be for awhile.

        • http://twitter.com/acogg Adam Coggins

          As you said earlier, in 6 months it will be. There ARE new phones on tap to come out within the next several months that will take flagship status. At what point do you jump into the game? Mobile tech isn’t anything like console tech. Console tech is being artificially held back to allow manufacturers to bleed every last penny out of their investment. No such constraints on mobile tech at the moment so you’re seeing a significant hardware refresh cycle about twice a year. $100 every year or two to refresh your Ouya doesn’t sound so bad, considering the cost of an off-contract mobile phone or a PS3/X360.

          • Fattie McDoogles

            I completely agree. Its the games and support for them that concerns me. I think an every other year strategy makes sense. Just not an every year. That’s a bit much.

        • r0lct

          The first Tegra 4 device which will “outdate” the Ouya will be a phone and that same phone will then according to the same logic outdate all the current flagships.

          • Fattie McDoogles

            Project Shield will be the first thing out with a Tegra 4 and yes it will directly outdate the OUYA. But yes when Tegra 4s and the new Snapdragon processors and Samsung’s octo core come out they will make all the current flagships outdated. Just like when the next model year of a car line comes out the old one is now outdated.

        • EvanTheGamer

          Like the G-Nex. ;) lol

          • Fattie McDoogles

            LMAO

  • schoat333

    Now that I know this, I will wait until at least the third generation before I buy one.

    • imns

      Why is that? By the time it is released the chipset on which that iteration will be released will also be “outdated” by which I mean the next evolution of the chipset will have been released or at least announced. By your reasoning, no one would ever buy anything ever.

      • Fattie McDoogles

        I think his point is that he wants all the bugs to be worked out and it to have a good crop of games. I don’t think the chipset is the issue as much as the user experience is. But I’m just speculating based on his comment.

  • http://twitter.com/litobirdy litobirdy

    I say if ur upgrading ur current ouya then it should be at least half off for you.

    • sirmeili

      I wouldn’t mind this even if it was a “ship in your old one and get a discount”, especially if they keep the same form factor and can just upgrade the device.

      Also, having a “console only” option would be nice as I don’t need to get a new controller every year (saying I bough 4 with the Kickstarter backing)

      • Fattie McDoogles

        Now this makes a lot of sense and makes the idea seem a lot more reasonable. I would definitely be interested in doing something like this.

        • http://twitter.com/misterE33 Mr E

          that’s actually a great idea. idk if the console case is really that expensive (like if they just upgrade your internals), but i’d imagine excluding the controller could save quite a bit of money. it would also keep people invested in the platform.

  • http://www.pcprocare.com/ Barry Taylor

    Oh man. Are they doing a silver controller? Finger prints and smeared cheeto grease will be horrible.

    • sirmeili

      I believe that is the “limited edition” that they offered from kickstarter. The non-limited edition is a darkish grey (or so it seems)

    • EvanTheGamer

      I don’t do that. I hate eating while playing video games…it messes up my play style! haha

    • Symbiotx

      Is there a color that cheeto grease isn’t horrible on?

      • http://twitter.com/misterE33 Mr E

        cheeto grease color? i’m not sure if that’s made it into the crayola crayon palette yet though…

  • http://ndavis.nerium.com/ Nerium Brand Partner

    This could be good or bad depending on how quickly games are made for the new systems. I got out of using a computer for gaming for a few years when the graphics cards were going nuts coming out with products. I don’t think a console system with the same idea will work very well.
    Unless they make the console cheaper every year with better parts but not real upgrades but once every few years.

    • WAldenIV

      Every year Ouya will be outdated by the time it reaches retail. Just like the one about to launch.

      • EvanTheGamer

        Quad-core is not outdated, friend, nor is JB. So how can you say it’s already outdated? Dual-core, yes, but not Quad-core. Check your facts first.

        • Fattie McDoogles

          I think the one that’s coming out in a few weeks is dual core not quad so it would be outdated. And if they are already working on a quad core one for next year that too will be outdated if Samsung’s Octocore comes out.

          • EvanTheGamer

            You are actually wrong.

            Check your facts first, please.

            From the OUYA KS page:
            Specifications:
            Tegra3 quad-core processor
            1GB RAM
            8GB of internal flash storage

          • Fattie McDoogles

            Awesome!

        • WAldenIV

          Mobile product development cycles are too fast for console-style gaming. OUYA is going to fail eventually.

          • EvanTheGamer

            Eventually. But as long as I’m able to enjoy the OUYA NOW in the present, I don’t care when they fail(IF they fail). lol It’s new NOW and that’s all that matters.

          • Fattie McDoogles

            Thats what we are saying.

  • http://profiles.google.com/cory.simpson Cory Simpson

    They really don’t have a choice but to follow that model. No, it isn’t ideal for a console…but they have to be able to support new games being developed for the new chipsets on phones and tablets.

    • Fattie McDoogles

      They are going to need their own games. Whats the point of buying a new console every year? They would be better off making a way for you to dock your phone and play it on the tv.

      • r0lct

        What happens when you are playing a game online and you get a call?

        • http://www.facebook.com/smartguy0101 Anthony James

          You then have a difficult choice to make.

          • r0lct

            Well you’ll have no choice, it’ll likely screw up your game even if you ignore the call.

          • Fattie McDoogles

            not necessarily there would have to be a way to do it without forcing you to stop like on Xbox. It notifies you every time one of your friends gets on. However you don’t have to do anything with the notification and it goes away. I’m sure they could make it like there so unless you interact with the notification it would just go away.

        • Fattie McDoogles

          Who talks on the phone these days anyways?!

          • r0lct

            I sure don’t. :P But in all seriously I don’t want to be in a non-casual game and keep hearing notification peeps and such.

          • Fattie McDoogles

            I agree. But thats what happens with Xbox and PS3 already. You get notified every time one of your friends comes on. It’s the same principle.

        • JoshGroff

          That is exactly why I have a TF Prime.

          • r0lct

            Agree that’s a good option too and I don’t think the Ouya will be for everyone. But I think most of there people saying “phone + TV” have never actually tried it or certainly not for a long period of time.

      • EvanTheGamer

        Even the big dawgs don’t do that! For one; time, and for two; they don’t wanna piss anyone off!

        • Fattie McDoogles

          What do you mean?

          • EvanTheGamer

            For MS, Sony, and Nintendo to release a new console every year would require a tremendous amount of time and man power. Plus their consoles are far more sophisticated and complex than the OUYA will ever be(obviously) so the big three could not hope to release a new console every year, and even if they could I don’t think they would want to or else they may piss off their loyal fans/supporters! lol

            Just a theory anyhow.

          • Fattie McDoogles

            Gotcha. I completely agree and that’s what I think the problem is going to be. It’s going to be hard to convenience someone to spend the money on a new console every year and buy new games for it as well.

          • EvanTheGamer

            Exactly! Unless you can play those same games on the next OUYA as well, but even then, buying a new console every year is NOT the same as buying a new video game of the same franchise every year. I can’t understand that.

          • Fattie McDoogles

            Exactly. It seems like a very flawed strategy. This is a console and if I am going to have to spend money for premium content to play on said console I don’t want to have to keep updating the hardware every year. As well as then having to update my games every year as well.

          • sirmeili

            Why do you think you have to upgrade your games? They already said that the games will be linked to your account and not the device. If the Developer releases an updated version of the same game, one would hope they would update the existing version. If they release another game in the franchise, then it would be no different to how Madden works on the consoles… Every year there is a new version and people eat that stuff up for some reason.

          • Fattie McDoogles

            But that’s not how console gaming works. The only way that OUYA is going to sell is if it has “exclusive” titles that truly take advantage of the console experience like its competitors. Modern combat is call and all but its not COD. And that kind of experience costs a premium to buy and you have to pay for it at least annually as it stands now on a console. So why wouldn’t developers Do the same with OUYA? I am not talking about patches and fixes I am talking about new content for games. Games aren’t the same on consoles as they are on your phone or tablet. They don’t just add new content every few months. They make you buy new content on a console.

          • sirmeili

            That is what you’re missing though. OUYA is NOT trying to mimic the model that current consoles use. They are trying to change that model, specifically in regards to the licensing required by developers to get into the game. If they follow the same model for game purchases, isn’t their choice. That will be up to the developers, not OUYA. That being said, the version I buy will still work for years after I buy it (as long as it is not upgraded for free to a version that is incompatible with my current hardware).

            And why do they have to have exclusive titles? If that were true the Final Fantasy series would still be exclusive, but they moved away from that to sell more games to more people. Maybe I don’t need the experience of COD. Perhaps for a lower cost Modern Combat is fine with me. I’m not seeing any issue with this. Once again, they are not technically trying to compete with the bigger Consoles. They are offering a lower priced console , that will still offer adequate gaming performance for the average person. (some thine Wii when it was received and it worked quite well for them)

            As to the update of content, I’m not really arguing with you on that. Why wouldn’t the developer offer in app expansions to increase income. As long as you are getting more out of the game, I don’t see an issue (as long as you can complete said game without the “additional purchases”).

      • http://profiles.google.com/cory.simpson Cory Simpson

        They will have their own games…but they won’t have nearly as many as needed to stand on their own for awhile…if ever. While I didn’t back the project myself being I really didn’t see the point of buying a 100 dollar dedicated Tegra 3 box when my tablet has the same power, that doesn’t mean the simplicity of a console for android wouldn’t appeal to other people. Hooking up your tablet or phone to your TV could work…but only with a modified highly polished launcher made for the TV

        • Fattie McDoogles

          Exactly. Which is what OUYA seems like it is going to be.

    • EvanTheGamer

      It’s not ideal FOR US(the freakin’ backers/consumers!) I don’t wanna have to buy a new OUYA console every year and I’m sure a lot feel the same way. Maybe in three years time, but not every single year. Sure, I have a choice and so I don’t have to do that, but hell, I’m a gamer and I may be tempted to.

  • KleenDroid

    Amazing