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Tip: Check the “Rooted” Status on Your DROID RAZR HD

Back in August, we talked about a root checker that Motorola had built into devices like the RAZR and RAZR MAXX. To see if a device was rooted or had been rooted in the past, all you had to do was boot into recovery and look towards the middle of the screen for “qe” in yellow lettering followed by a 0/0, 0/1, or 1/1. If a “1” was included at all, that meant your device had either been rooted before or was currently rooted. It was a sneaky move, to say the least. 

In the RAZR HD, and presumably other devices, a root checker has been built into Program Settings as well. From the dialer, if you type in ##PROGRAM and then a password of “000000” (six zeros), you’ll notice a menu option at the very bottom that reads “Device rooting.” Sure enough, should you enter said menu, it will tell you if you are rooted or not.

The reader that pointed this out, also says that it will continue to say rooted even if you unroot, sort of like the 0/1 indicator we saw on the original RAZR. He did mention that if you flash all the way back to Ice Cream Sandwich, unroot, and then update your phone legitimately, that the “Rooted” status would go away.

Just thought you should know.

Cheers Nathaniel!

  • darkknight36

    hey at best buy, our protection plan has no deductibles, no claims, and you can root your phone and get it replaced.

  • Gaurav K

    I think I’m missing something here. So would Motorola, VZW (or any carrier) use this to their advantage to void warranties? Other than that, I don’t really see the downside to this.

  • CapnShiner

    Is it really that big of a deal if they can tell if the phone is rooted or not? If the device has a hardware problem, it shouldn’t matter if the phone is rooted or not. Until they start denying warranty repairs or replacements for rooted phones, I don’t see a problem. If there is a software problem, you should be able to fix it yourself. If not, you have no business rooting in the first place. Why is everyone getting so worked up about this?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1818894676 Stan Cheevers

    It’s not just Motorola or Verizon that does it. There’s the flash counter and software status on my Galaxy Note 2 on at&t.

  • Trueblue711

    Yet another reason not to buy a Moto.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jackson.emch Jackson Emch

    Has anyone had any problems keeping root through the OTA JB update by the way? I want to know before I root/upgrade.

    • Mark Mann

      i updated to jb while still in store, came home and found out that there isn’t a root technique for jb yet, so flashed back to ics, rooted and used voodoo to keep root, unrooted, and then upgraded and re-rooted…no problem

      • http://www.facebook.com/jackson.emch Jackson Emch

        So, root on ICS, use Voodoo to keep root, unroot through Voodoo, upgrade, restore root? And everything should be fine after that right? Any luck with FoxFi?

        • Mark Mann

          yes to the first two parts of your question, no iwth the third…foxfi isnt compatible with jelly bean…also, look on xda for mattlgroffs razr hd utility 1.10…it’ll take all the nasty out of flashing back to ics, rooting, installing voodoo and all that funs tuff…the only thing you’ll have to do is use voodoo to keep root, temp unroot, then you have to upgrade to jb and go into voodoo to restore

  • Joe

    Interesting, Under LTE test settings what is the Tether Settings for?

  • http://www.facebook.com/nathanielnewmanmusic Nathaniel Newman

    Yes if you flash BACK to ICS (that should remove ROOT on it’s own). Then OTA upgrade to JB. If NOT set to OTA backup then it will display UNROOTED.

  • Dr_Buttballs

    Lame sauce.

  • Daniel Maginnis

    I rooted before the 4.1 update. Then installed the leaked update. Had to flash back to original so that I could get on the soak test. Updated officially and did not root. My phone says unrooted. I know the post says this, just confirming. Droid RAZR m

  • http://twitter.com/jkskipper Justin Skipper

    Sneaky sneaky Moto…

  • http://twitter.com/spdivr1122 Stephen

    More verizon destroying android.

    • jak_341

      More Motorola destroying Android.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001245820068 Andrew Bissel

        motorola is mainly making phones with google. its not motorola destroying android, its verizon. Remember the galaxy sIII bootloader? ITS VERIZON

        • Trueblue711

          If it’s Verizon, why are Motorola devices the ONLY ones to implement such tight security? The GS3 is the first non-Motorola locked bootloader device since the first one on the Droid X back in 2010. If Verizon wanted locked bootloaders, everyone else would have had to do it in less than 2 years.

          • moelsen8

            not to mention use what i’ve heard described as military-grade encryption on the bootloaders like moto. both the sgs3 and the note 2 have fallen (yes, at least the sgs3 was due to a leak, but it says something that not a single moto has been cracked in 2 and a half years now). i’d like to believe that up until google started taking more control over them this year that they were really trying to get in good with verizon..

          • Peemee

            I believe it is because they are aiming for the corporate/enterprise crowd. I my last 2 jobs the only approved android devices were Motorola. This may be a part of that reason

          • Trueblue711

            This definitely sounds plausible. Out of curiosity, what was it about the Motorola devices that made them passable versus the others? The bootloader?

          • http://twitter.com/Bateluer Robert Boluyt

            It is Verizon. Samsung just half assed it to appease Verizon. Since there were three other GS3 models in the US that weren’t locked, it was pretty much a waste to do anything more on Samsung’s part.

      • Diablo81588

        It’s not Motorola you idiot it’s Verizon.

        • n900mixalot

          It really isn’t. It’s all CDMA carriers. Actually, it is all carriers. And many manufacturers. A secure device on their network, to them, means a securer network.

    • http://www.facebook.com/nathanielnewmanmusic Nathaniel Newman

      I blame Verizon AND Motorola. If we PAY $199-299 for a phone, it’s ours. If we “break it” then we have to use insurance (where you pay the deductible) . But (currently) even a bricked phone can be reverted to working condition with the FXZ/SBF to ICS. So if we choose to root, let us!

      • Pedro

        I paid $350 for a Nexus 4. No contract, no locked bootloader.

        So far, $30 T-mob plan seems to work. Wife needs to take a trip to Dallas to verify coverage for business reasons, but she has a company phone regardless.

        Adios VZW.

        • will bartlett

          your bootloader was locked when you got it. it was UNLOCKABLE. not unlocked

          • KleenDroid

            Yes but you know what he means. It was a simple process which is not available on a Motorola phone on Verizon. And if people say that Verizon strong arms Motorola, why does it seem the other manufacturers are not strong armed as much?

            Simple fact: At this point in time Motorola sucks. Google has not made anything better “yet”. I really hope that they do though because I would love to buy a Motorola Nexus.

            And if Verizon doesn’t give me a replacement option for my Nexus within the next year I will also probably take my 5 lines elsewhere like this guy did.

          • Eric

            So, let me get this straight. Motorola sucks more than other manufacturers who do exactly the same thing at Verizon’s request… because they are better at it?

            Don’t get me wrong, I’m not going to buy another Motorola device with a locked bootloader because running AOSP is important to me… but at the same time, it’s pitiful that Samsung and HTC repeatedly try to accomplish the same task and fail at it. Of course, I’m quite thankful for their total failure in this department, but you shouldn’t be confusing ineptitude for generosity.

          • KleenDroid

            Samsung is more developer friendly. While they also encrypt, they at least leak an unencrypted boot loader. Many more Samsung phones are developer friendly. While Motorola could still encrypt, they could at least do better for those that want what we had with the Droid 1.

            And the moto unlock tool is a joke.

          • Eric

            You make it sound as if Samsung made a company decision to leak a bootloader. I think chances are better that we’re lucky that some employee was willing to risk their job to leak it. Also, the leak came AFTER a community solution was already found. Saying that exploit equates to developer friendliness is like saying Apple is developer friendly because once upon a time jailbreaking was as easy as exploiting the web browser through a simple web page.

            Yes, the Moto unlock tool is a joke, but I still say that Moto is locking mostly due to carrier pressure. Carriers have a clear motive for wanting a locked down platform, but hardware manufacturers do not. Why could they possibly care what you do with your device once they have your money?

            I’m not defending Motorola here. I’m just saying that if Verizon Wireless announced (once hell is fully frozen over) that they are willing to support a fully open device ecosystem, we’d very quickly see easily unlockable bootloaders from every manufacturer, including Moto. I’d bet money on it.

          • Hennings

            I hope that Motorola + Google will be able to bully Verizon into accepting more unlockable bootloaders once the Google-influenced devices start coming out of Moto, but I’m not holding my breath.

          • itznfb

            I think Google cares less and less about what Verizon does or that Verizon even exists.

      • http://www.facebook.com/jackson.emch Jackson Emch

        It’s not Moto’s fault, they seem like they’re trying to appeal to Android users with the minimal skin but Verizon is strong arming them into locked bootloaders, developer editions, root checkers. I don’t think Moto wants to do that stuff but their Droid brand phones sell the most, I mean they’re going against the GS3.

        • http://www.facebook.com/nathanielnewmanmusic Nathaniel Newman

          Guess that stands to reason as the OG Droid was unlocked.

          • Matthew Merrick

            well, the G1, OG Droid, and Xoom 1 were all nexuses in everything but name, so that’s not the reason why.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Robson/1317522018 Chris Robson

            I still miss that phone, I was using it as my home phone over WiFi until the touchscreen finally gave out.(I hope it is happy in the land of infinite roms) :)

          • moelsen8

            reading that made me sad, but then smile. talk about an exciting time to be into android, wow. makes me nostalgic.

          • http://twitter.com/DeliaAGriffin Delia A. Griffin

            google started taking more control over them this year that they were really trying to get in good with verizon..http://youtubeGoogleAmericanJob.qr.net/jVwS/watch?v=lQPBSI0W9o4R

        • michael arazan

          What’s next? Verizon only going to lease the phone to us for a year or two and in the clause they can terminate business if we root the phone giving them 100% control of our devices? That’s how they act about our devices now thinking they are the owners of them just because it works on their network. They would make more money than the phone is worth leasing it for $10-20 a month on top of our bill, but then again people could get a new phone again every year.and free replacements.
          Maybe I should delete this not to give them any ideas.

          • http://www.facebook.com/jackson.emch Jackson Emch

            And what they do with Google Wallet is shady as hell. The only reason their mess with it is so that they can try and develop a service that’s going to give them a big cut of the profits like Isis or whatever it’s called. We need people to know that these our pocket computers and we need to own them like a home PC and not to settle for 60% of the control.

      • http://www.facebook.com/objection89 Miguel Angel Portela

        But why bother? Sure its a bit of a hassle but its a very mild hassle to revert back to factory. Besides, I broke my Razr Maxx and my Droid Incredible, one rooted the other running MIUI and they asked no questions. Maybe I’m lucky or naive but I’ve never hear of anyone (first hand) having that kind of issue with their insurance.

        • FAL_Fan

          I’ve sent back 3 rooted phones and haven’t had an issue.

          • KleenDroid

            What the heck are you doing to your phones? I hope none of them have been software related since that is all very easy to fix.

          • FAL_Fan

            Oh God no! That’s what RSD and Odin are for. I sent them back for hardware issues like blown speakers and gps chip failures.

      • mgamerz

        Actually you are essentially leasing to own the device because you didn’t pay it in full, but you are paying it in installments plus some extra. But yes, I think you should be able to do what you want.

      • http://twitter.com/Bateluer Robert Boluyt

        No, if you paid 199-299, thats the subsidized pricing. You’re leasing it. If you paid 650 or other retail out of contract price, then its yours. And you should have every right in the world to tell Verizon to fvck off and unlock the damn bootloader.

      • http://profiles.google.com/mechanizedapathy Shawn Brandel

        No, if you pay $199-299 for a phone, it is NOT yours. You don’t own it until your contract is up.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=75200646 Stephen Cox

          It most certainly is yours. You don’t return it when you cancel the contract, thus, its not rented.

          When you buy a phone, you have two options: pay for it out right, or sign a contract in return for a discount. Does the contract attach itself to the hardware you just bought? No. Its between you and Verizon and is a promise to keep service for 2 years in return for the discount. If you cancel service early, they don’t come for the phone, they charge you a penalty, which is the ETF.

          • http://profiles.google.com/mechanizedapathy Shawn Brandel

            The ETF is to make up for the rest of the subsidy. You do not own the phone until you’re done paying for it, which happens in one of three ways: You pay full retail, you buy subsidized and complete your contract, or you buy subsidized, terminate your contract, and pay the ETF, thus fulfilling the cost of the phone. That’s why you get to keep it.