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Benchmarks: LG Nexus 4 vs. HTC DROID DNA

The LG Nexus 4 and the HTC DROID DNA are arguably the hottest two phones on the planet, right now. Our coverage of each has certainly been in overdrive, and rightfully so. With quad-core Snapdragon S4 Pro processors, tons of RAM, and big beautiful screens, these phones are fun to talk about. Beyond being fun to talk about, they are a pleasure to use throughout a day.

And speaking of using – performance on both is about as good as it gets. The 2GB of RAM in each coupled with the latest and greatest processor from Qualcomm leaves little doubt that these are the most powerful phones on the planet. You won’t find stuttering or slow loading times at all with either phone. But how do they stack up against each other? Well, that’s a tricky question because both seem to have few flaws when it comes to performance.ย 

With that said, we thought we’d run a few of the popular benchmarks on the Play store to get results that can be compared. While we wouldn’t call this an “official” test or anything, it does sort of show you that stock Android may not be optimized to win benchmark battles all that often. Remember, that both phones run the same processor and each have 2GB of RAM, yet the DROID DNA is the clear winner in almost every benchmark.

We tend to take benchmark results lightly, and usually never put much stock into them. But hey, isn’t comparing fun?





Surprised by any of this? Or are you like us, and think it means very little for either phone?

  • supa_dupa

    So, the older version of Android + heavy Sense UI works better than newer stock Android?

    Nexus 4: 4.2
    Quadrant:4870, Antutu:10048

    HTC Droid DNA 4.1.2
    Quadrant:8142, Antutu:14537

    Summer 2013

    Nexus 4: Android 5
    Quadrant:4520, Antutu:9537

    HTC Droid DNA: 4.1.2
    Quadrant:8142, Antutu:14537

  • blaaaacccckiieee


    I got a big dick.

    Summer 2013

    I still got a big dick.

    Fall 2013

    My dick is still as big.

    That is all.

  • PuzzleShot

    Man, what kind of processor/software optimizations are these manufacturers making, and why aren’t they merging into AOSP?

  • thomasyim02

    Don’t test it when the device don’t have enough battery

    • TylerChappell

      Both of those batteries look to be at least 25-40%, which would be sufficient as any power management should not have kicked on yet.

  • I’ve had Motorola and Samsung phones since I first got into smartphones. I’ve never been interested in HTC because my aunt had a Thunderblot. I just didn’t like it. This may change my mind as my Galaxy Nexus is coming nearer to the end.

  • i really don’t get how the same spec phones can have such a drastic difference.

  • jeff manning

    If you read the AnandTech review, the reviewer says that problem with the nexus 4 is that when running these benchmarks the thermal throttle turns on and drops the processor to use just two cores.

  • ric626

    Anyone know where i can get that wallpaper?

  • dcdttu

    Is this a Nexus 4 with the latest update to 4.2 – post release on the 13th? I’d really like to know, as a number of things were changed.

  • Simon Belmont

    This is kind of confusing. They’re both running the same SoC and have the same amount of RAM, but the DNA totally owns it.

    My only guess is the RAM being used is faster and the I/O is better on the DNA. The fact that the DNA is running Sense 4+ and still owning a stock JB is insane.

  • Ok I don’t get this. Only reason why the DNA would beat the Nexus 4 would be because the CPU is clocked higher. They both have the same CPU and GPU as I have read so why is the DNA that much faster when it is pushing twice as many pixels than the Nexus 4. It doesn’t make sense.

  • Jeff Martinez

    The apps are not optimized for the latest version of android, plus the best indicator of real world performance has yet to be done. Both are awesome phones but I purchased the Nexus 4 two days ago I can not wait!

  • RoadsterHD1

    I guess overlays don’t slow phones down. The difference is significant. The DNA is way faster.

    • Kurtis Tamez

      Just a correction, the DNA is only 16GB and not expandable, matching the N4’s 16 (or 8gb, who would do that??)

      • RoadsterHD1

        I said expandable (SD) card. N4 does not have one right?

        Motorola DROID BIONIC

        ICS 4.0.4

        1.2GHz OMAP-4430 Dual Core

        1gig-DDR2 RAM Stock Kernel

        NOVA Launcher

        Quadrant Standard Score 3227

        AnTuTu Benchmark 6443

        • Kurtis Tamez

          Neither does the DNA AFAIK

          • Kurtis Tamez

            From CNET:

            The bad: The Droid DNA’s large size makes it tricky to fit in tight pockets, and it lacks both an SD card slot and a removable battery.

            The bottom line: With quad-core power, 4G LTE, a lovely 5-inch screen, and a stunning design, the $199.99 HTC Droid DNA is currently Verizon’s best Android deal.

          • RoadsterHD1

            DROID DNA by HTC – 4G LTE

            Speakers – Exclusive Beats Audio Technology- Designed To Work With Included Beats Audio Headphones
            3G Data Speeds – Yes, Where Available
            Micro-USB Port – Yes
            Mobile Hotspot – Mobile Hotspot With Support For Up To 10 WiFi-enabled Devices on 4G
            Processor Type – Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Pro
            TTY Compatible – Yes
            Processor Speed – Quad-core 1.5GHz
            Phonebook Capacity – Limited Only By Available Memory
            Data Download Speed – 4G/LTE, EV-DO Rev.A
            Hearing Aid Compatible – M4/T4
            Manufacturer Model Name – N/A
            Multiple Numbers Per Name – Yes

            Expandable Memory Capacity – Up To 32GB microSD

            Standard 3.5mm Stereo Headset Jack – Yes
            Compatible Carrier – Verizon Wireless
            Webcam – 2MP Front-facing HD Webcam
            Micro HDMI – HTC Watch Allows You To Play Your Content Via HDMI Out, Including 3D Playback
            Network Compatibility – 4G LTE 700, CDMA 800, 1900

      • RoadsterHD1
  • nightscout13

    Goes to show, like I’ve said before, the Nexus line does NOT have top shelf parts.

    • Kurtis Tamez

      You mean there might be a reason they can sell it for $399 and the LTE Radio isn’t a $200 item?


    • Nayners

      This is nothing new.

  • Hatyrei

    I’m cancelling my order for HTC Droid DNA…and just wait for Nexus 4 to restock this Dec. :), Coming from HTC Incredible 2 from Verizon. Bad experience no actual support for updates….no ICS , no JB. People should start buying directly from Google if you want the latest and greatest from Google :). right?. ! No matter how great HTC DNA hardware is it won’t be getting on time software updates. Worst forgotten.

  • M Geil

    Take whatever side you prefer to take, but that collection of benchmarks is pretty damned impressive. I have zero allegiance to either handset, but I’m pretty shocked at how wide the margin of victory is for the DNA.

  • hmm

    I need LTE and my unlimited data (I use ~10 GB/mo on Skype, TV and radio streaming) and would like even having one or two ROMs. My Bionic has minimalistic themes with “clockr”, “circle battery widget” and 30 Dolphin HD bookmarks shown as “simple text”.
    That’s what I use my 2.3.5 phone for.

    What more would I use the latest OS for? (That’s an honest question)

  • Trevor

    That’s a cool menu button on the DNA.

  • Steven02

    The hardware on the Droid DNA is top of the line. What did you expect to have happen?

  • Loudaccord

    The DNA Hardware should have been the Nexus 4.

    • Ohiwastedmylife

      Nexus is never meant to be the top tier flagship device. Why do people think Nexus = flagship? It never has been and probably never will be. Nexus is for high quality, decent devices that are open and can run the most recent version of android for as cheap as possible.

  • superdry

    Thermal throttling *might* be the culprit for the wonky benchmark numbers from the Nexus 4 as noted in the Anandtech review. The CPU mostly spent time at 1.1ghz during benchmarking.

    Or maybe Android 4.2 isn’t still fully optimized with the S4 pro?

  • could apps need to update to 4.2?

  • I want that wallpaper you used in the first picture. The “honeycomb” one. Please? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

  • Slappy Sam

    Benchmarks are great for bragging rights … Until your chosen phone loses. Then they mean nothing and only “Real World” (immeasurable) experience matters.

  • Honestly this benchmark has nothing to do with anything. What it merely comes down to is the fact that Qualcomm has a special kernel compiler that it handed over to manufacters that Google isn’t using in its AOSP code base, I.E. Compare the LG Optimus g vs the Nexus 4; minus the wireless charging back to them there almost identical.. But LG optimus is using LG in house kernel code with what I suspect Qualcomm optimizations to increase its WOW factor if you would. At the end of the day there all just as equal (S4 pro quad, 2g ram, high end displays).. One will get updates before the other, and one is secured down like fort knox and the other isn’t. what you going to do about it eh?

  • Adol

    so it looks like the Droid DNA drops roughly 10% per hour when being used.

    That’s pretty normal.

    No longer worried about the battery.

  • So, in the Note 2 review, the following text can be found under performance:
    “No benchmark scores needed here, this phone passes all of the tests with flying colors.”

    As someone who is probably going to pre-order a Note 2 next week (VZ), I’m interested to see how it stacks up. Kellex, Tim, or anyone else — have you run any of these tests using the Note 2?

    Would love to see a similar comparison.

    I’m sure others have done various benchmarks, but I trust you guys to give us the info straight.

  • Were these benchmarks run on phone straight out of the box? The nexus scores are low enough to suggest something is running in the background. Run these again on factory reset phones.

    • descendency

      Anandtech suggests the problem is a low thermal throttling temperature.

  • duke69111

    Is the Droid DNA on Wifi? I hope we soon get a review of battery life on 4G from Verizon.

  • ddevito

    Yeah I heard similar talk about the Rezound about a year ago.


  • Paul

    I wonder if there’s a difference in the ram speeds and that is playing a factor. They never tell us those specs.

  • Droid Burgundy

    The view form the sidelines with my Gnex and unlimited data is quite lovely. Hopefully these two phone will just kill each other.

  • Storm Jones

    Haven’t they put a function in the new sense where you can map the menu function to the multitasking button?

  • DJ_suMo8

    Geekbench use Geekbench every single one of these benches would of throttled the N4 down I’m sure Sense has a way lower throttling rate

  • atari37

    Has DroidLife asked Google what the deal is? You guys should use your power to get some answers. I don’t care that it scores poorly because my GSM GNEX runs buttery smooth but it scores poorly on benchmarks. I just want to know if Google has an answer for this since both devices have identical hardware.

  • Don

    Seeing the low battery on the DNA = priceless. LOL

  • I gotta say that the DNA is winning me over. That screen, those specs… UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER!

  • cgalyon

    Pretty sure I saw on Anandtech a discussion of the apparently disparate performance of the Nexus 4 (when compared to the essentially identical Optimus G). The Nexus 4 appears to engage in thermal throttling, significantly decreasing the system speed and subsequently the benchmarks. They stuck it in a freezer bag and got much better performance.

    • So what you’re saying is that those of us in Florida shouldn’t get a n4 eh?

      • cgalyon

        Lol, maybe until it is clear if the throttling is truly necessary (that it will overheat without it) and if anything can be done about it. Even with it, though, the performance is still much better than most current phones.

  • TechTitan

    Is the Lamborghini faster than the Ferrari? Who cares when they both do over 200mph? Case in point. The reality is that real world experience won’t differ much for either device. I expect the DNA will be just as snappy even with Sense atop of Jelly Bean. They just didn’t care enough to wow us with greater battery life and external storage. I hope these shortcuts don’t turn out to be the fatal breach on HTC’s sinking ship. When you’re going down, you have to go all in.
    Oh….and I agree with earlier posts. I would be more worried about software updates then benchmarks.

    • zionlion

      Great analogy. Love it. If you like the DNA results better, do it. If the N4 is the one the floats your boat, do it. Pretty sure both will give good real world results.

      • LiterofCola

        That kind of rational thinking wont be toerlated around here.

  • Sunspider?

    Generally, that’s one of the bigger ones for me. Web browsing performance is about the only OS agnostic thing there is.

  • majormudafuckinhun

    You people on here will never give HTC any credit. That’s fine. I like being one of the few that gives em props! Props HTC!

    • TechTitan

      HTC is doing amazing things this year in the mobile space with the HTC One line. The problem is they leave behind a enormous trail of disgruntled customer’s who are plagued with horrific battery life and outdated software. These are the poeple that helped HTC rise to the top and their voice is not being heard through sales declines. HTC has to find a way to reach consumers who once believed in them and they can’t do it half stepping. Unfortunately, I purchased the HTC Thunderbolt and I regret it. I still believe they can rebound, but with Samsung and Apple holding commanding leads, it will not be easy to resurrect their brand.

    • Larizard

      Same here. Rooting for HTC to be back on the Android game. It could only be good for us, consumers.

  • Detonation

    Gotta love all the Nexus fanboys responding that benchmarks mean nothing and making other justifications. I’m not saying these benchmarks are conclusive of anything, but if the results were the other way around, the comments would be filled with how awesome the Nexus 4 is.

    • lilmoe2002

      That might be the case if these devices had different SoCs, but they’re both the same. These benchmarks aren’t telling the real story because the “problem” (if any) lies in software driver restrictions (thermal throttling). Both devices “should” perform the same, but the Nexus would probably be the faster, and definitely smoother (with better touch response), because the resolution is lower and skinless Android 4.2. Check out the Nexus 4 full review at Anandtech (especially the performance “revisited” part). Also watch some reviews of both devices and concentrate on how much better the touch response and smoothness is on the Nexus 4.

      DNA has the screen advantage (size, resolution, and pixel density), and the Nexus has the software updates and performance advantage. From an unbiased point of view, things should be evened out, but its not, because the price difference of these devices is night a day (350 vs 600+ off contract). I’m sure most Nexus fans feel the same way.

  • Overdrive? Don’t you mean over clocked!?

  • ryanallaire

    N4 has no LTE!!! Deal breaker for me…

    • LiterofCola

      And no exapandable storage with barely any significant amount of internal storage to compensate

      • kretz7

        @b6377ca7b58032af6a4c76da65d766f6:disqus @ryanallaire:disqus Wow, really? No one knew about this before you said it, so thank you.

        • LiterofCola

          That’s what I’m here for!

  • N8shon

    I don’t really think these benchmarks mean a whole lot, but I would like to see how the Note 2 stacks up to these beasts just for kicks.

  • AROD

    Even though the GNex had its issues at launch…This Nexus 4 has been the biggest disappointment nexus ever. The DNA is pushing more pixels therefore should score lower. Just another example of crap LG hardware. Add that to the list including no LTE, non removable battery, crap storage options, and a headphone jack on top! I’m keeping my GNex until they release the 5th gen Nexus!!!

    • Paul

      What performance hardware did LG make that’s crap? The processor wasn’t made by LG etc. They don’t even have a skin on it either.

      • AROD111

        The phone as a whole is hardware! They assembled it and configured all the component drivers.

        • Paul

          I’d be surprised if they made the drivers. When you buy a Dell laptop with an Intel cpu and NVIDIA gpu, Intel and NVIDIA made the drivers, not Dell.

          The whole phone is hardware, but the power button’s position isn’t going to affect speeds, etc.

          • AROD

            Regardless, bottom line is the same exact components run much faster when they are assembled by another manufacturer. Obviously LG is dropping the ball somewhere, given the fact that the Nexus 4 benchmarks don’t come close to benchmarks from phones with the same chips.

          • Have you stopped to think that they’re running on different software versions and 4.2 might have something going on that’s affecting benchmarks but not real-life performance?
            Stupidity in large quantities is not a good thing!

    • Larizard

      im stuck on a VZW 2yr contract anyway /sadpanda.

  • ddevito



    Nexus 4: 4.2
    HTC Droid DNA 4.1.2

    Summer 2013

    Nexus 4: Android 5
    HTC Droid DNA: 4.1.2

    Fall 2013

    Nexus 4: Android 5.1
    HTC Droid DNA: 4.1.2

    That is all.

    • mustbepbs

      You nailed it.

    • Most would say that it doesn’t matter because you can just root and ROM the DNA. But it’ll still never be the same as a Nexus as the ROMs will be hacked together from AOSP and never be as reliable as a ROM built direct from AOSP for a Nexus device.

      • Guestzor

        Absolutely right!

      • jcorf

        Yes very true, but I would also add that I’m getting tired of running custom ROMs. I just want the newest version of android running smooth. Hence why I’m gonna switch to the Nexus 4. Goodbye Verizon.

        • And THIS is why Nexus devices rock. I have been rooting and ROMing my phones for 3 years and I’m sick of it. I don’t want to have to jank up my phone to get true Android.

          • I’m with you. I have an original dinc with JB on it hacked together by my brother and a few others. It’s a lot of work especially when the monthly cost with an n4 will be much cheaper than verizon

          • DonSerrot

            I was rooting and roming my phone for a year and got sick of it. Gonna wait till I can get everything lined up (and for the stock to stabilize in the Play Store) then I’m jumping on that Nexus 4!

      • AlexKCMO

        I doubt the DNA will have a well maintained developer community. I came from the Rezound, and while there are some talented developers (Chad, the guy who cracked the RIL is a force to be reckoned with), there aren’t enough developers to make the device worth owning if you’re into hacking and modding.

        I haven’t had a PC that could get to XDA in a while, but last time I checked the AOSP ROMs were still buggy (certain features not working, like Bluetooth) and Jellybean 4.1 was a ways off.

        A device like the Rezound on a single carrier just can’t compete in the developer arena with a Nexus or Galaxy device that will have a worldwide supply of developers. I understand the DNA will be released as several worldwide variants, but I’m willing to bet those variants will be different enough to keep each individual device’s dev communities anemic.

        Additionally, good luck cracking the LTE RIL on the DNA. The users AND developers who suffered through the Rezound and Incredible LTE will easily shy away from the DNA. The only enthusiasts who will bother to pick the DNA are those who like Sense ROMs.

        I for one, won’t be making the mistake of buying another HTC device again. Samsung or Nexus from this point forward.

        • Ibrick

          I don’t know why everyone compares the DNA to the Rezound. The Rezound was DOA. I think the dev community will be similar to the TBolt, which was quite strong.

          Besides comparing any device to a Nexus is pointless, of course there will be a larger community. Doesn’t mean there won’t be plenty of support.

          I’m thinking I can probably deal with de-sensed ROMs until the RIL is cracked.

          • AlexKCMO

            I said the same thing.

            I also think most people have abandoned ship in regards to HTC. As someone who bought the Rezound thinking “Oh, I’m SURE this device will get AOSP; devs LOVE HTC” I was very disappointed. My new policy moving forward is not to purchase a device until I know for a fact it has an AOSP variant.

          • Ibrick

            I don’t know that dev’s have abandoned HTC on Verizon, I think it’s more there hasn’t been anything decent on VZ by HTC since the Incredible. I had the TBolt and the hype for that phone was off the charts, since then I can’t remember another HTC phone that drew this much attention.

            I LOVE AOSP, don’t get me wrong, but I do recall being quite happy with some of the de-sensed ROMs prior to Workshed esentially writing the RIL from scratch. I’ll keep an eye on the interest prior to pulling the trigger since I would like Sense off this thing ASAP.

            Worse comes to worse, Sammy will by using this same display shortly.

          • Jon Ellingson

            Your rezound came out the same time the Galaxy Nexus came out the first Verizon Nexus device. It had no chance. Now there is no Nexus device for Verizon and the specs are great. I think we will see great Dev support if the bootloader stays unlocked

      • michael arazan

        Not to mention Verizon may close off the HTC dev enabling like they did with other HTC phones before this on there network. I’d wait to see what happens before I Get the HTC if your planning on roms for the DNA.

        • the htc droid DNA already has root and a custom recovery!!
          roms are on the way and you can de-sense any sense rom to just pure google the way htc got it before they put their ui on it

    • t3chi3


      Nexus 4: No LTE
      HTC Droid DNA: LTE

      Summer 2013

      Nexus 4: No LTE
      HTC Droid DNA: LTE

      Fall 2013

      Nexus 4: No LTE
      HTC Droid DNA: LTE

      That is all.

      • AlexKCMO

        Really, it isn’t all. I have friends on T-Mobile. They don’t use a ton of data, and when they do, it’s usually to talk on g-talk, sync their mail, or look something up on Wikipedia. They don’t tether either because they never need to.

        Web browsing happens in stationary locations… work, Starbucks, home, etc. Places they will have a Wifi connection available 99/100.

        Personally, I use a bit more data than them. I stream a good amount of music, listen to radio back in Kansas City, and browse Reddit at work. I only turn on LTE when my phone is plugged in. 3G is good enough for me most of the time, I can’t say I’ve ever said LTE is a must.

        If Verizon sent me an email tomorrow telling me they’re cutting my unlimited data, I’d immediately jump to T-Mobile and grab the Nexus 4.

        • t3chi3

          Matter of personal opinion and availability to Wifi. Which I don’t have, therefore LTE is a must. There is a reason everyone is going over to 4G. It’s better.

          • AlexKCMO

            I seriously doubt LTE makes that much of a difference in your life.

            At best, you could argue that VZW’s 3G is vastly superior to T-Mobile’s 3G (EVDO vs HSPA), but dual HSPA+ will get you 42 Mbps, and I only get 26 Mbps on VZW’s LTE in Ft. Lauderdale.

            Additionally, if it’s purely subjective as you said, most people around the world don’t have access to LTE, therefore, I can promise you the Nexus 4 will sell more devices than the Droid DNA (not including Worldwide Variants, but I’d still be willing to bet on it).

          • Working in rural areas that get LTE makes a huge difference when needing to download files remotely from work.

          • M Geil

            The percentage of people that need to download work files in rural locations is less than 1%.

          • I also need LTE to download files at work because the only network lines going to the business park we are in is T1

          • Kurtis Tamez

            I live in one as we don’t even have LTE lol

            I use it a little when I go out of town on business, but productivity wise it has never been a big difference.

            It might be more important if my work required me to watch YouTube Videos lol

          • Kurtis Tamez

            You don’t want to include “Worldwide Variants” in a comparison to a phone on one carrier versus one available to multiple carriers and worldwide? I don’t doubt the N4 would sell better either way, but keep in mind those on VZW that have no desire to switch, are left with what? A phone with every bit of awesomeness under the hood as the N4, a wicked screen and the.same Storage space,Seems like a pretty good alternative to an unavailable Nexus 4 on VZW.

            Plus things are looking up as far us development opportunities (I know its not going to get supported like a Nexus, but it should be well enough.)

            My list of items I wanted for a GNex Replacement:

            Quad Core
            2GB RAM
            No Safe/Bootstrap Romming
            Decent battery life.

            LTE though not important to me necessarily, is basically a given as I have no desire to leave VZW since I NEED to be able tto have service in areas that other Carriers could not in the past. That whole pesky using a phone for phone call thing I know…, LOL

          • Tony Allen

            It’s not so much about the LTE not being there as it is the phone not being there for Verizon.

            I don’t know what is so difficult for people to understand about that. If Sprint has an Optimus G with LTE and CDMA *since the S4 supports all three* there is no technological reason that Verizon can’t have a Nexus 4. It’s purely business politics at hand, it helps simplify things for Google using a Pentaband GSM device, with no hangups for them with the carriers like they had to deal with on the LTE Nexus with Verizon.

            Funny thing about T-Mo’s HSPA+ “42Mbps”… that’s a theoretical speed you’ll never see. LTE on the other hand will change/evolve and allow speeds to grow even further, by that point in time you’ll be at service hardware mercy on their end of things. HSPA is about to the end of it’s rope and it’s been wrenched of all it can be.

            You’re probably right, the Nexus 4 will probably outsell the Droid DNA worldwide, but here in the states, I don’t know that I’d put a big bet on that. Verizon isn’t the largest carrier in the US for no reason at all. I feel like Motorola has something for Verizon up it’s sleeve for 2013.

          • liamtotes

            HSPA+ has theoretical speeds to over 600Mbps as long as you use enough channels.

            The big difference isn’t in speed but in connections times. LTE has MUCH faster pings.

          • vitriolix

            HSPA+ is 4G

          • hspa is 3.5 get it right!

          • M Geil

            It’s not that it’s better (although it is), it’s because they use LTE to sell more phones. Most folks have access to Wifi more often than not, so it’s a minimal gain for the masses. All LTE is, is a marketing tool.

        • Tony Allen

          Yeah.. T-Mobile is great!

          *looks outside and sees EDGE for days*

      • And how many people over the world care?

      • LiterofCola


      • Lack of LTE is a huge letdown, well not specifically the lack of LTE but the lack of Verizon support. However, it’s something that had to be done for Google to get out from under the carriers’ thumbs.

      • Riley

        Quit crying and keep sucking on Verizons tit.

      • Simple as that

        Cost $300 bucks less.
        That is all.

    • cooksta32676

      Fall 2013, all the DNA owner can say will be, “yeah…but look at the screen…ummm…..the screen.”

      • Usman Ahmed

        screen, the screen, that sucks all the battery lol

    • Immolate


      Nexus 4: not a Note II, made by LG, non-removable battery, not on Verizon
      HTC Droid DNA: not a Note II, small battery, non-removable, 16GB max

      Summer 2013

      Nexus 4: still not a Note II, made by LG, non-removable battery, not on Verizon
      HTC Droid DNA: still not a Note II, small battery, non-removable, 16GB max

      Fall 2013

      Nexus 4: and still not a Note II, made by LG, non-removable battery, not on Verizon
      HTC Droid DNA: and still not a Note II, small battery, non-removable, 16GB max

      That is all.

      • Mack

        Pluses for each device except the low storage.

      • Kurtis Tamez

        Note II = Small N7 with Cell Radios lol
        Sorry but 5.5″ is just too damn big.

      • the lack of storage is nothing!! 16gb is plenty i store all my stuff in dropbox cloud or whatever.. its better to store it then keep it on the phone..

      • the htc droid DNA out performs the nexus4 and the note2 get over yourself and samsung already

      • lemonhead127

        Note II Fanboy over here!

    • I’d rather have LTE than updates. ๐Ÿ˜›

      • Jeff Martinez

        Yeah you say that now.

    • Jeff Martinez

      DNA is on 4.1.1 NOW not 4.1.2

  • 2001400ex

    How do these compare to the razr hd and galaxy s3?

  • It’s never about specs and benchmarks when it comes to Nexus devices.

    • Detonation

      So having an AOSP device is more important than anything else? What good is having the most up to date software when the hardware falls short (ex: battery life, signal, build quality on the Galaxy Nexus)

      • Zero

        Likewise, what good is having the fastest benchmarked hardware when the software isn’t as good?

        • Detonation

          Software can be changed. Hardware cannot.

          • Dain Laguna

            You mean theoretically it can be changed. No rom will be as stable as the n4

  • Captain_Doug

    Wow. My decision would be made if it had on screen keys.

    • Tyler Casilio

      I don’t understand why its such a big deal

      • Its really not. Some people are just obsessed by it for some reason..

      • Captain_Doug

        They’re customizable, they hide when you want them to, they can allow for a smaller device, and they just look clean. I understand how other people don’t care, but I do.

  • mannequinsdenial

    HTC hardware > LG hardware. Iv’e heard the nexus 4 goes through some thermal throttling accourding to anandtech. that could have something to do with the scores.

    • nsnsmj

      That’s the exact reason, but I don’t think it’s an LG problem. From what I read, the Nexus 4 has updated drivers that throttle the temperature so it’ll be able to get through the entire benchmark. The Optimus G, Scored higher in the benchmarks because it wasn’t getting throttled like the Nexus 4, but it didn’t do everything in the benchmarks.

      That said, the performance of the Nexus 4 isn’t worse because the throttling as some would have you believe. The phone is no slower. Real-world performance will be the same as DNA and Optimus G. People care way too much about benchmarks that really don’t hold any weight in actual real-world usage.

      • But I am at a point that I begin to suspect how good Google is on writing actual hardware codes. Remember what Google’s response was regarding LTE on Nexus 4. Basically Google is blaming how difficult it is to incorporate LTE and still makes the battery lasts longer. I believed them initially … until I saw a battery benchmark 2 days ago in Anandtech. Hell, even the S3 on Verizon LTE beat the Nexus 4. The One X on AT&T’s LTE? It lasted almost 70% longer in a web browsing test. The iPhone 5 almost double the Nexus 4’s battery life. Those 3 phones either have a same size battery (S3 & One X), or a smaller battery (iPhone 5.) It’s a Nexus, man. How can the battery performance be so bad when there’s no LTE involved?

        • AlexKCMO

          Google really needs to do something about optimizing battery life. They’ve gotten the silky smoothness iOS has had since the beginning, now it’s time to do something about battery.

          I think Android sucks battery because it does more than iOS and WP7 (both phones last much longer). While that’s all great, it doesn’t help when I have to keep a charger at work just to get through the day.

          When I read about Project Immortality or whatever the hell they called it, I was lit up with joy. Too bad it turned out false :-(.

          • Larizard

            “Project Roadrunner”

  • Spoken Wordโ„ข

    So, the pure Google flagship Android phone with the latest OS software got whipped by a derivative that’s running older software?!

    • r0lct

      Not saying DNA isn’t faster, but remember benchmarks are like EPA/MPG stickers on cars. Besides we may find out they need to update the benchmarks for 4.2 for some reason.
      Having said that it’s really irrelevant. You can only get DNA on Verizon and you can’t get the N4 on Verizon, so the choice is already made for most between the two based on their carrier.

    • Zero

      Regardless, the DNA needs the processing power. It’s driving far more pixels than the Nexus 4. Without context, benchmarks mean nothing.

      What matters is the experience. The Nexus doesn’t need such great processor performance, since it has a smaller resolution to manage. It’s possible that, despite the difference in benchmarks, the Nexus and DNA could match each other in real-world performance.

      • Dain Laguna


    • zionlion

      I think it’s more accurate to say that a 299.00 phone kept pace with an 800.00 phone. That’s more impressive to me, and can be said using the same data. Half full, half empty kind of thing. Personally, I think the N4 is a beast of a phone and will perform as good if not better than any phone out there with an overlay. Battery issues aside, my Gnex is by far the best phone i’ve ever come across up that point. Performed much better than the two HTCs i had (which i liked very much). Overlays are the devil, I’m convinced.

      • Ibrick


        What kind of conversion are you using? Last I saw it was $600 outright.

  • My n4 is still easily the slickest device ive ever touched.

    • James

      That’s a good or bad thing?

      • Chris Batson

        Good thing. He’s been around since the olden days of Droid.

  • AlexKCMO

    I’m pretty surprised at how different they are if they contain the same hardware, it’s pretty interesting.

    Either way, I think most here will agree that the Nexus 4 is the superior phone because it has at least 2 years of updates to look forward to. Droid DNA probably has 1 OS iteration at best. I’d be willing to bet anyone here that the DNA won’t see Android 5.0 while the Nexus 4 will easily (in an official capacity).

    Also, the last time I used Sense, it felt like a spruced up version of Gingerbread. I’m amazed at what a better user experience AOSP is compared to TouchWiz and Sense (and I actually like the TW on the S3). I can’t comment about Blur since my last experience with Blur was my Droid X.

    • David Henry

      Well said. Couldn’t agree more

    • KB Smoka

      With the way the scene moves these days and the amount of developers do you really think it matters that much how many “official” updates we get?

      • It does, in a way. You’ll definitely get more from the dev community, but I’ve had several devices that have been hamstrung waiting for updated drivers or kernel code, etc.

      • Guest

        You definitely get a better AOSP experience on an AOSP device, like the Nexus line. Others take longer to be updated, may be buggy, or might not receive updates at all without drivers.

      • brando56894

        It definitely does matter because you can’t do anything that great without the kernel source, like Mr E stated. Once updates die or slow down a lot of devs move to another newer and better phone that is easier to dev for. I saw this happen with the Rezound, hence the reason I moved to the GNex.

      • AlexKCMO

        Absolutely. The Rezound community was starving for HTC source to get an unofficial CM9, and they don’t even have a working CM10 beta (well, they might at this point; I haven’t checked in a couple weeks).

        Coming from the Droid X, I thought all you needed for a good AOSP port (like CM/AOKP) was an unlocked bootloader. Once the bootloader was unlocked, they still had to manage S-Off, which was a process that could easily brick your device and involved grounding a circuit during boot using a paper clip or other piece of conductive metal (some used coax).

        I just traded out for a Galaxy Nexus about a week ago. I’m seriously blown away by what a better experience AOSP is. Knowing I’ll at least see 5.0 and the 5.x iterations is enough for me. I’d be willing to bet the farm that the Rezound won’t get 5.0 and won’t see a daily driver 4.2 (if it does at all) until next year.

        • How did you trade for a galaxy nexus? Straight up trade with someone? I want to do this potentially as well

          • AlexKCMO

            I called and complained about the Proximity Sensor. When I got to tech support, they offered to replace it and I said something like this:
            Hey, before you send me a replacement, is there anyway you could send me a different device? I’ve read about the proximity sensor issue on the internet and it seems to be a widespread issue; so much so that someone reported going through 5 Rezounds before getting one that worked.

            Honestly, I’d really like to avoid going through the hassle of getting several more Rezounds, setting them up and customizing them, playing games on them, only to have the same problems occur repeatedly with them. On top of that, I really hate this phone. It’s slow, laggy, I end up pressing something then it moves and I press the wrong thing, it’s just a terrible experience.

            When I upgraded, I was really torn between this and the Galaxy Nexus. A good friend of mine has it and he showed it off to me and I would really be thrilled if you could send me a replacement Galaxy Nexus as opposed to a replacement Rezound. I’ve been a customer for 8 years [Note: I have been a customer for 8 years] and I’m really going to be miserable if I have to spend the next year and a half with this phone.

            From there, it was pretty much done. She told me she could get supervisor approval to send me the phone, but there wouldn’t be a battery cover or a battery, I’d need to get those myself. I told her no problem, I could order them off Amazon for $25 and I’d much rather do that than spend $600 on one off contract from Verizon.

            Main thing is to be nice. They might send you a Rezound and you might have to go through several before they finally offer to send a different device. I think me being a customer for 8 years helped.

            Also, if it isn’t obvious, S-On the device and reset to the most recent OTA.

  • Abhijeet Mishra

    Means very little for either phone.

  • KB Smoka

    Small DNA battery comments coming in 3….2…..1…

    • Is that a Droid DNA Battery in your pocket or are you just very sad to see me.

      • Couldnt be because the battery is none removable.. But It was still funny.. ha.

        • Everything is removable with the proper application of strength. :]

          • I was going to say something along those lines myself.. ha

    • cocamoxb

      Benchmarks mean nothing when you can’t USE the performance because the battery is dead!!!

      Benchmarks mean nothing when you can’t USE the performance because there is NO storage!!!

      //ordered DNA and SOOPER excited!

      • KB Smoka

        see above post

      • Despyse

        Ordered the DNA as well, hearing nothing but good things about it and the battery life.

        • Tyler Casilio

          I believe it is after Tuesday but before Thursday

          • Despyse

            Well played…

  • Radgatt

    Interesting indeed

    • WAldenIV

      FWIW, my Razr M trounces the Nexus 4 Quadrant score and Vellamo HTML 5 score. Benchmarks are near meaningless.

  • s23

    What?! Don’t they use the same Qualcomm snapdragon chip?

    • The Nexus 4 is thermal throttled.

      • T4rd

        Isn’t every phone thermally throttled? Or does the Nexus 4 just have lower thresholds than most other phones?

        • nsnsmj

          Yes, that’s correct.

      • Aardvark99

        So it’s those vents on the side of the DNA making it go fast? ๐Ÿ˜‰

      • seriously?!… wow the N4 defenders just have an answer for everything

        • ddevito

          you’re either Nexus or against us

  • azndan4

    Lockscreen font on 4.2 is so ugly

    • Larizard

      you mean u like the squished clock better? ugh.

  • Greyhame

    I’m surprised. How can non-stock be more optimized? In other words, I’m surprised Google didn’t optimize stock to go with the coupled silicon.

    • not sure what any of these mean other than the HTC has higher numbers….will we notice it in every day use? nope. dont put much thought into benchmarks.
      i had an option in a ROM to enable “crazy benchmarks” just for fun…it literally doubled my scores. but i didn’t notice any difference in performance at all.
      so again, dont put much thought into lower scores.

  • BrianLipp

    Im more surprised that HTC still has that onscreen menu button thing going on. Thats the #1 reason for using software buttons

    • That was the first thing I noticed too.

      • Ben Modica

        Agreed. I really wish this phone didn’t have the hardware buttons.

    • strikeir13

      maybe someone can hack on on-screen buttons onto Sense and disable the hard key backlighting. then it would almost be like a VZW N4 spec-wise (especially if the DNA gets S-off), just not dev-support-wise…

      • ceejw

        This is actually a good idea for the DNA. The bezel below the screen is so small as it is that it might be nice to have the buttons moved a little higher.

    • ceejw

      I’m pretty sure HTC has an option in the settings to get rid of the onscreen button and make a long press of the multitasking button serve as the menu button.

      • BrianLipp

        That should be the default then, or the only option. Even having the giant black bar with one little button in the middle as an option is terrible. Having it as an option on the One X made some sort of sense since the long press was added after the fact, but this is a new device. They should abandon the on screen menu button and just use the long press multitask. Or you know, switch to on screen buttons for everything

        • ilovetechnology

          While personally I would prefer not to have to change a setting like this, I would think to new users it would be pretty non-obvious that they would need to long press the multitasking key to get a menu. Better solution is just to get with the program and use the darn on-screen keys.

      • strikeir13

        They should have a setting to toggle the on-screen keys and turn off the hard key back lights… I bet that would encourage adoption by current Gnex owners.

        • Darksthour

          If you port over AOKP you can add the software buttons and I think disable the ones on the phone. I did it for a bit on my Droid 3 for funsies when they added the shortcuts.