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Verizon Needs Google [Opinion]


Think back to January 5th, 2010. That was the date that the Nexus One was first announced and made available for purchase. I can vividly remember the announcement. I impatiently waited for someone to review the device, but the images I saw already confirmed my suspicions: this was going to be an incredible device. Even though it wasn’t on Verizon yet, I had plans to upgrade to it as soon as possible.

This vision of the Nexus One was a phone sold directly by Google to consumers. There was no store to try the device out. You went to google.com/phone to purchase the phone. If you had T-Mobile you could buy the phone unlocked for $529 or $179 on a new two year contract. Eventually a version of the Nexus One with AT&T bands was released in March. By April it was announced that the Nexus One would never be released on Verizon and that customers should buy the Droid Incredible instead. I was crushed, but I moved on (and eventually did get a Droid Incredible, which now sits on my desk running CM7). 

Now think back to December 16th, 2010 when the Nexus S was released. There were no announcements of additional carriers until March 21st, when Google announced that the Nexus S would be available on Sprint with WiMax. On July 21st it was announced that the Nexus S would be available on AT&T for $99 on contract. With a Sprint version I was especially hopeful that Verizon would finally have a Nexus device, but alas, Verizon never released the Nexus S.

In the time between the Nexus One and the Nexus S Google learned a lot about selling phones. First, they learned that having email support is not enough. The Nexus One was plagued with radio issues early on and customers were upset that their only option was to email Google or post on a message board for help. With the Nexus S, Google worked closely with the carriers to ensure that they would help support the devices. While AT&T and T-Mobile didn’t carry the device in stores, Best Buy had both versions in stores as well as the Sprint version when it was released.

This year the Galaxy Nexus was released a day earlier than the Nexus S. As you know, the phone was released exclusively on Verizon Wireless after much delay. All evidence points to the fact that the Galaxy Nexus was ready to launch by the end of November, but Verizon waited to give the Rezoud and the RAZR more time to sell. To make matters worse, the Galaxy Nexus is the first Nexus device to have a carrier’s software preinstalled. Speaking of software, the Galaxy Nexus doesn’t have Google Wallet installed on it. Sure, it can be side-loaded, but it’s just more evidence that Google is not in control of this device. Unlike every other Nexus, the Galaxy Nexus does not have Google branding on the back; instead Verizon’s logo rests above their 4G LTE logo. If there was any doubt about whether or not this was Google’s phone, that should put the debate to rest.

Google’s original vision of the Nexus program has changed dramatically over the last two years, and I don’t think it has been for the better. Google has slowly gotten in bed with the carriers, which has led to the worst Nexus we’ve seen yet. Sure, it has the latest version of Android (which is fantastic) and it’s on my carrier of choice (finally!), but at what cost?

The original vision entailed releasing a device free from the carriers that people could buy subsidized or unsubsidized with the latest version of Android and the first crack at new updates. Instead of using their power to push carriers like Verizon to do no evil, Google has gotten into bed with Verizon, allowing them to further distort their original Nexus vision. It may be said that it’s impossible to get on a carrier’s network without making concessions, but apparently Apple was able to pull it off. If Apple can do it, Google definitely can. Google has tons of money – why not spend it to ensure the largest carrier in the U.S. has a real Nexus device, not some Verizon branded step-child of a Nexus?

Google needs the carriers for support right now, I get that, but when their acquisition of Motorola is complete they’ll have a staff that is trained to support users with their devices. By then they’ll also have a few billion more dollars in search revenue that they can use to throw at the carriers to ensure that their device isn’t touched. Verizon has way too much control right now. A Nexus should never be controlled by a carrier. A Nexus is supposed to be the best from Google, not the best that Verizon will allow on their network.

Google has challenged the music industry with Google Music. They challenged Microsoft Office with Google Docs and Gmail. They challenged Apple’s iPhone with Android. They challenged netbook manufacturers with Chromebooks. They challenged the movie industry with YouTube. Why isn’t Google challenging the carriers? They have the power to do so, but they’re holding back. They should have the Nexus in 5 colors on every carrier right now, but instead they have a tainted Nexus on the greediest carrier in the world. Something is wrong with this picture. We obviously don’t have all the details, but something needs to change. Google needs to step up to the carriers and take control of their device. If Verizon doesn’t want to play nice, Google can start rejecting any Android device with Google Apps that wants to run on Verizon’s network. Verizon needs Android to be relevant, not the other way around.

  • Prime7

    Baby steps.

  • “Google can start rejecting any Android device with Google Apps that
    wants to run on Verizon’s network. Verizon needs Android to be relevant,
    not the other way around.”

    Perfectly written!!!!

  • “Google can start rejecting any Android device with Google Apps that
    wants to run on Verizon’s network. Verizon needs Android to be relevant,
    not the other way around.”

    Perfectly written…!!!

  • Anonymous

    A few points to make:

    – It seems that the OP has forgot that iPhones have the carrier’s name in the top banner, and always have, a consolation I’m sure Apple was forced to make due to the lack of case branding. Apple has to listen to carriers too, you know. You seem to forget that, in the US, the iPhone was only on AT&T for most of the line’s life. Remember that we couldn’t get an iPhone on Verizon until a year and a half ago, Sprint only very recently, and never officially on T-Mo.- The Nexus originally symbolized more of a business model than anything. Selling phones on their online store was the whole angle of the Nexus One (I’d go so far as to call it an experiment), which turned out to be a failure. Since, by then, the market was full of phones that had skinned Android, the Nexus name eventually came to symbolize a ‘showcase’ for Google’s vision of Android, a role that the Verizon GNex fulfills (and does a damn swell job) and thus deserves to be called a Nexus device. The G1 and OG Droid were de facto Nexus devices due to their ‘showcase’ status, but they were released before the market was absolutely flooded, so there was no need for a Nexus line. – Two apps that are actually relevant, easily-disabled utilities are the absolute bare minimum of bloat. It’d be like if I bought an HP laptop with only an ‘HP Support’ program that I could uninstall, and no other applications that aren’t stock Windows. I’d be damn thankful that it was only that.- Google Wallet isn’t a part of Android. It’s a Google-developed app, yes, but it isn’t a component of Android, per se. Yeah, it’s a downer it isn’t included with the GNex, but is easily sideloaded.
    – The GNex gets updates from Google. And it should (we’ll see, but I have no reason to believe it won’t) get updates first. You’re making it out to seem like it isn’t. Also, Verizon let the bootloader stay unlocked. Kudos to that.

    – Poor old Google isn’t being pushed around here. It, like any other business, is making deals. Google doesn’t need the carriers for support. Google has oodles of support, considering Android is outselling iOS, skinned or not. Why isn’t Google challenging the carriers? Because it doesn’t need to.

    A Nexus isn’t defined by you. It’s defined by Google, whether you like what they’re doing or not. Meanwhile, while you’re complaining about the impending doom of the Nexus line, I’ll be enjoying my ‘tainted’ Verizon GNex, that is supposedly completely controlled by Verizon. I haven’t minded it so far.

    • First of all, I want to thank you for taking the time to articulate a clear response to the points I bring up. Also, I want to thank you for doing so in a respectful way with the understanding that this is an opinion piece with the intention of stirring up debate and discussion. 

      – I’m very much aware that the iPhone has only been available on AT&T until this year. If it had been available on Verizon there’s a good chance Android wouldn’t be where it is today. Also, you’re  right that the iPhone displays the carrier in the status bar. It always has and it always will. You might say that it’s branding, but that’s branding at the most minimal level. Android phones have the carrier in the status bar too. The difference is, on the body of the iPhone there is no indication of which carrier it is on. If I placed a Verizon, AT&T, and Sprint iPhone in front of you, you wouldn’t be able to tell which was on which carrier without turning on the screen. Is it a minor issue? Perhaps, but it sends the message that the iPhone is Apple’s phone, not some carrier’s. That’s why I make a big deal about the logo on the back. The Verizon Galaxy Nexus has no outward indication that it is Google’s flagship phone. 

      – Nexus phones have come to symbolize the best in Android, but that wasn’t the original vision in my opinion. The whole point of the article is that Google’s approach has changed in ways that it shouldn’t have. Nexus phones should show the best hardware and software versions of Android, but they should also challenge the carrier models like the Nexus One did. 

      – Having two apps that can be disabled is kind of like bloatware on a Windows laptop, except that can be uninstalled easily. I can only disable the apps on the Galaxy Nexus unless I decide to root and rom. I’m definitely thankful that it’s only two apps, but it should have been zero. The reason I brought up the apps was to show that Google made concessions where they shouldn’t have. It’s not that the apps are horrendous, but rather that those kinds of compromises can become dangerous. 

      – I honestly couldn’t care less about Google Wallet. Like you said, it’s easy to side load. The reason I brought it up is because there’s a good chance it isn’t on the Galaxy Nexus (or the AT&T and T-Mobile Nexus S) because of ISIS. 

      – I never gave any indication that the Galaxy Nexus wouldn’t get updates from Google. It’s a Nexus device, so of course it will get updates from Google. 

      – Google definitely made some deals with Verizon. The point I was trying to make wasn’t that these compromises are the worst possible outcome, but rather that they could lead to more damaging compromises. Google doesn’t need Verizon as much as Verizon needs Google. If Google wasn’t being pushed around in some way, they wouldn’t need to make deals. The iPhone doesn’t come with Verizon apps. Why should the Galaxy Nexus? 

      – I never once stated that the Nexus vision is defined by me or that I was basing my argument on an official statement by Google. It doesn’t exist. I simply latex out the history of Nexus devices and argued that the original plan, while flawed, was a gorgeous vision of how buying and selling a phone should be. At its center was the notion that buying a phone shouldn’t necessarily involve the carrier. Over time, the carriers have become more and more involved. I think it’s great (and important) for them to be involved with customer support, but I don’t think they should be involved beyond that. I want a relationship with Google, not with Verizon. 

      – You’re right that Google wants to make money like the carriers, but they do that with search advertisements, not with Android. 

      – I never stated that the Galaxy Nexus is completely controlled by Verizon. I said that Verizon is involved with the phone on too deep a level. If the iPhone can be on Verizon without their branding on the outside of the device and without Verizon apps preinstalled, the Google should be able to do the same. The Galaxy Nexus is Google’s phone, not Verizon’s. 

      Again, thanks for responding to this with your own well articulated thoughts. It seems too easy for many to just reply by calling me names or saying I’m wrong without actually expressing their thoughts. I truly appreciate your efforts and look forward to your reply. 

  • Binglut9

    I cant beleive kellex would post this crap on his site

  • Armorthane

    What if Google bought T-Mobile and made it’s Nexus phones only available on their network? They’ve got the money to do it and it invest in the network to make it better. They’ll have the support for the hardware when the sale from Motorola Mobile goes through. Think it’s something they’d consider doing?

  • Anonymous

    google needs more control over everything that is android,because the carriers are ruining something that is good now,but could be great. i know that the whole appeal of android is open source and more freedom,but the carriers seem to have more control over googles OS than google does,and thats kind of ridiculous.i know they probably set it up the way they did at first to give carriers an incentive to pick it up,but android has grown so much,i dont think there would be a carrier stupid enough to drop android if google tells them they are taking back some of the control (most specifically,updates)

  • You asked way to many questions for me to try and dialogue with you on, but know that I did read it and appreciate your feedback. If you don’t like the opinion pieces, feel free to skip them. You won’t hurt my feelings. I know my opinions don’t always match with everyone else’s, which is fine. The point of them is to stir up discussion. I stand by what I wrote (which was all written while sober). And just so you know, I’m not writing these articles just to hate on things. I think my focus is mostly on trying to see how Android and Google can improve things. Thanks again for the feedback!

  • Uday Kiran


  • I love my GN, but the next Nexus needs to be a phone that Google can truly control.  Perhaps Motorola, since they’re buying them?  They need to come out with versions for all carriers at the same time.  If a carrier balks, then screw them.

    I will be telling Verizon, when my GN is ready for replacement, that I will move carriers to get the next Google phone, if I have to.

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  • Nick Frongillo

    This was by far the best article on Anroid I’ve ever Read

  • The logo on the back could be there for warranty issues.  The Nexus One had to go through Google and HTC to get a replacement or issues resolved.  So the logo could simply be an effort to help thwart that effort and allow you to go strictly through Verizon. 

  • Sk102704

    Say what you want about Ron but you gotta respect his opinion and at least he’s backing it up in the comments. Not many authors do that. 

  • Alexander Garcia

    The mobile industry is broken in the US! The VZW Nexus is NOT Google’s phone, it’s Verizon’s phone. The real GNex is the unlocked GSM variant that the europeans and Canada get to enjoy. Too much power rests with the US Carriers and waaay too much power rest with ol Big Red alone! The carriers, especially Verizon, have us all jn the balls and they can do pretty much ehatever he hell they want with us (including Google). Sorry, but Google has little to no real power here. This is where I actually give Apple credit. They know how to strong-arm the carriers so that at the end of the day, Apple gets what it wants!

    • “the moblie industry is broken”,,,,, good lord how dramatic   lol

      • Well you got Verizon and Sprint who are currently and primarily CDMA providers. Okay. Then you have regional carriers. All of which are CDMA. All these carriers operate their CDMA networks at the same frequencies (though Cricket has more spectrum)
        Here’s what’s fucked up, you can’t take a phone from Verizon to Sprint and vice versa. They are strictly anto-byod (bring your own device). Then you have Virgin Mobile, a virtual network using and owned by Sprint. Again, you CANNOT bring your own device, you have to choose from their crappy selection.
        Then you have the regional carriers again. They’ll flash ANY CDMA phone that’s capable onto their network. See, not even into the GSM part and its already fucked up.

        Now we have our 2 only GSM carriers. AT&T being the biggest and small little T-Mobile USA. On the GSM side, they’re fully backwards-capable. You can bring any GSM phone to these networks so long as its unlocked. Here’s where it gets fucked up. THEIR 3G NETWORKS OPERATE AT INCOMPATIBLE FREQUENCIES! Isn’t that completely counter-intuitive of the idea of what GSM is for? 

        Here’s where it gets more fucked up. Just about every carrier has decied LTE is their future, right? Mkay. So that means we’ll eventually have a fixed and open mobile industry? Not really. From the looks of it now, they’re all going to operate at incompatible frequencies, so its all gonna be fucked up.
        Why the hell can’t we be more like Europe in that they have mobile STANDARDS that must be followed?!

  • I think Google is going about this the right way.  They are giving so that they may get.  Give Verizon a taste of the Galaxy Nexus and next year or in the future Verizon will see its value and Google will be able to accomplish it’s original goal.

  • Anonymous

    Google needs to take Verizon’s network and create their own MVNO.  Call it Google Voice. LOL.  Unlimited data also.  Thanks.

  • Anonymous

    I knew it all along. The “Galaxy Nexus” is not the best name for this device. It’s supposed to be called the “Nexus Compromise”.

    And for what reasons, only Google will know. I do have the deepest belief that this might just be the first and only Nexus on Big Red. Maybe at least for a couple years or so.

  • Hmm

    Google’s main competitor is iOS. One major advantage to new customers is LTE. When AT&T get LTE Google will have more leverage. VZW will then need Google maps much more than it does now.

    Only then the game will change. Until then we’re VZW’s hostage, they have what we want. That’s what it will take for Google to challenge VZW. Our willingness to leave VZW is the critical factor here.

    • sprints also setting up LTE , id prefer them over AT&T

  • Anonymous

    For the love of Satan, not this crap again. This is a non-issue.

    We’ve already confirmed that the Verizon Galaxy Nexus gets its software updates directly from Google. As for the so-called bloatware — it’s two apps that customers actually use. Contrast that wth the Nexus One that shipped with the Amazon MP3, Facebook, and Twitter apps; they couldn’t be uninstalled or moved to the SD card. And that was on a phone with just a few hundred megs of internal storage.

    Google Wallet isn’t officially supported on the T-Mobile Nexus S either. Yet I don’t see anyone claiming that the T-Mo Nexus S isn’t really a Nexus.

    I simply have no idea how the author can claim that the Galaxy Nexus is the “the worst Nexus we’ve seen yet.” I used a Nexus One on AT&T for a year. I now use a Galaxy Nexus on Verizon. The Galaxy is a wonderful upgrade.

    So the only “issue” is the fact that the Verizon Galaxy Nexus doesn’t have the Google logo on the pack. I admit, that’s a little odd, but, honestly, who cares?

    This incessant whining is insufferable. The Verizon Galaxy Nexus is just as much a Nexus phone as every other Nexus phone.

    • This is my first time chiming in on the issue, so I wouldn’t call it incessant whining. 😉 I call it the worst Nexus yet because it strays the furthest from Google’s original vision, not because of hardware or software.

      • Anonymous

        I should have clarified. By “incessant whining” I was referring to the numerous op-eds, tweets, fb/g+ posts making this same point – that the VZ GNex somehow isn’t a real Nexus. It is.

        The original Nexus vision died long ago when Google stopped selling directly. Or perhaps it was when they shipped a carrier-locked Nexus One on Vodafone that didn’t get updates directly from Google.

        • Right. The notion that it’s not a Nexus seems a little difficult to defend, which is why I decided to say its the worst one yet instead. You’re right that the original Nexus vision died sometime ago. I guess this is one way for me to articulate that some of us still want to see that vision come true.

  • >> If Verizon doesn’t want to play nice, Google can start rejecting any
    Android device with Google Apps that wants to run on Verizon’s network.
    Verizon needs Android to be relevant, not the other way around.

    Unfortunately, I cannot agree with you. The thing is, in the US, Google needs Verizon. And, contrary to what many people believe, even Apple needs Verizon, or to a further degree, it needs the US carriers. It’s made painfully clear to Apple that, not going with more than just AT&T hurts them a lot. The Droid on Verizon rose from nowhere to de-throne Apple from being king of the smartphone world. You see, the US mobile computing industry IS controlled by the carrier. Google simply cannot make a great phone and hope that it will sell millions of them — if a carrier decides not to let the phone be used on their network, Google will immediately lose a large portion of the market share. And, unlike Apple, there WILL BE alternative around to pick up the spaces it left behind because there are other companies making Android smartphones. As witnessed by the latest saga of the Galaxy Nexus, Verizon chose not to market the Galaxy Nexus massively, but instead put all its effort into promoting the RAZR — we don’t know the result yet, but I have a feeling that the Galaxy Nexus may not be selling as many as the RAZR.

    Let’s admit it, Google simply sucks in the consumer market. Had it spend money in marketing the Galaxy Nexus itself, it could offset the negative impact of the lackluster Verizon campaign. But Google didn’t do it. IMO, Google simply does not care the Nexus sell well — as Google execs said numerous times, the Nexus line is meant to be used to jump-start new trends of the Android platform for the coming year. It is NOT a consumer device (of course, Google conveniently forgot that they wanted to change the mobile computing world with the Nexus One.)  And, don’t get your hope high on the Google+Motorola merger. Google had said many times it would leave Motorola alone. Even Google’s critics didn’t believe that, but I do because this is the kind of stupid mistakes Google would make in the consumer market. Still don’t believe it, just think about this:

    You are an early OG Droid user — a non-tech savvy ordinary user. You know nothing about rooting, custom ROM, etc. You love your Droid, and have tons of data saved in your beloved smartphone, such as your game saves. You just qualified for an upgrade and did not wait even a second to get a Galaxy Nexus. You happily sign in to your new Nexus. Wait for your app to be re-downloaded. Then you open your favorite games — none of your game data were saved. Google did make a data backup API available to the developers, but no one seems to be using it. At the same times, Google doesn’t feel it’s a problem because if you ask them, they will point out that the mechanism is there and the developers just need to implement it. In the meantime, you have no other ways to restore your data from your Droid (remember, you don’t even know what rooting is.) That’s what will happen to an ordinary user when they upgrade their phone after 2 years. It doesn’t take a genius to understand that most consumers need a way to save their app data, and yet Google does not have a CONSUMER FRIENDLY solution. Is it so hard to do that? All they need to do is to add a feature to the “Backup & Restore” section in the Settings and save all app data to a portion of the SD card, let the user copy the data to a PC, then copy it back to their new phone and press a restore button. Yes, it’s not as elegant as using a cloud to back up the data, but at least it’s a solution.

    Make no mistake, I love Android. I love it so much that I bought 4 Galaxy Nexus to replace the 4 OG Droid in my family. But as I said earlier, Google sucks in the consumer market and it needs to wake up. It may not need to worry about Apple in the smartphone market anymore, but I have a feeling that it’s going to fail miserably in the tablet market — I mean, it’s going to lose the battle against Amazon, not Apple. The tablet market is a different market. People know what to do with a smartphone. But the tablet is a new market and the usage of a tablet is still being defined by the tablet makers. Apple, Amazon and even Barnes & Nobles know how to define their tablets. Google, however, has no focus at all. That’s why even though geeks like us enjoy Android tablets but the ordinary consumers don’t. They simply don’t know what an Android tablet can be used for. It’s not just a problem of how many tablet apps are available, but a perception issue. A perception issue needs good consumer marketing. Too bad, this is what Google does not have in its blood.

  • Rynolda

    i think we have to remember exactly what is google’s goal? they want people to take their software and do whatever. when they launched the phone they wanted to free people from contracts. the contract thing did not work, but plenty have picked up the software. going forward, it is sad seeing verizon make it their device, but obviously google felt it important to have the device on their network. google will not get everything they want, unless they do everything themselves, including towers ect. which i do not see happening. each side has to give and take, and to be quite honest this is a very successful win if people are willing to pay a little extra for it. 

  • andrew z

    “The original vision entailed releasing a device free from the carriers that people could buy subsidized or unsubsidized with the latest version of Android and the first crack at new updates. Instead of using their power to push carriers like Verizon to do no evil, Google has gotten into bed with Verizon, allowing them to further distort their original Nexus vision.”

    What? The Nexus S I remember was exclusively sold at Best Buy. This isn’t a Verizon thing, it’s a Google thing. The Nexus One is the only Nexus to be exclusively sold through Google.

    • Right, I detail that in the article. My argument is that Google shouldn’t have strayed from that original model. Some changes (selling them in stores) are good, but overall I think they’ve abandoned a good idea.

  • Anonymous

    Why do people make an issue about the logos on the phone? I don’t care that it says Verizon on the phone. It is a phone exclusively on Verizon’s network in the US and they’re the ones who subsidized the cost of the phone. They have every right to put their logo on it (although mine is no long visible as my case covers it up). And the two (yes, there were only two) pre-loaded VZW apps are easily disabled in ICS, or you can completely remove them from the phone if you’re rooted.

    To say this is the worst Nexus device to date is an asinine statement to make. If anything, this is the best Nexus device released to date.

    I’m not sure what the author was expecting from his Nexus device, but perhaps he needs to curb his expectations a bit. The Galaxy Nexus is a fabulous phone and easily the best option on the market at this time.

    • My complaints aren’t about the software or hardware of the device, but rather in the Nexus line as a whole.

  • I wish Google could buy Verizon! That would be awesome! I wonder if they have the money? Anyone knows the financial side of that crazy statement of mine LOL =)

  • Thanks!

  • I’m still using my DInc. While I was waiting for the real life experiences of those with the Nexus to clear the haze of the “OOH SHINY” away and give us a good idea of it’s +/- I installed CM7. 
    It’s like a whole new phone, I’m in love all over again.

  • Although I could see Google making a LOT of money becoming a carrier. I mean they purchased fiber, why can’t they purchase spectrum?

  • Sorry I don’t agree. This is the best nexus yet hands up and down. And not every can nor wants to pay $600 for a phone just for frequent stock android. Sorry but I need the subsidized version and if I want the subsidized version, that carrier is going to have some say in the phone.

  • Anonymous

    I have said it once, and I will say it again. Google needs to seriously look at their business model. Apple works because of one company, one logo, one os and countless advertising campaigns. If I were google I would look into getting my own network and think more about develpoing their own retail locations, pull rank over the carriers by offering a better solution. Google wants to play too stand-off-ish and this just wont work because at the end of the day all the carriers and maufacturers want money and they will destroy the ecosystem with greed.

    • Anonymous

      Pretty sure android is outselling everything on the market. I think Google knows what they are doing.

  • Legendsoftroy

    Quit your bitchin, “wha wha wha”, “google wallet”, “verizon logo”… grow some ball and be happy you finally got what you wanted… don’t like it? Go suck a lemon.

  • Anonymous

    Very nice article Ron. While i think the Galaxy Nexus is a real Google phone, i agree with you that Google should flex their muscle some more. Android SAVED Verizon at a time when Jobs was essentially telling them to kiss his ass!

  • D.B.Evans

    There’s a problem with your statement: ”
    It may be said that it’s impossible to get on a carrier’s network without making concessions, but apparently Apple was able to pull it off. If Apple can do it, Google definitely can.”

    There’s a simple reason Apple could get away with it: consumers demanded an iPhone from Verizon, and the ONLY way Verizon could get an iOS driven phone on their network was by giving in the Apple’s requirements.Compare that to Google’s position.  Customers demand Android devices: and the carrier already provides them from multiple manufacturers.  While those who understand the OS (like most people who frequent sources like DL) will at least know the conceptual differences between a Nexus device, a Droid device, and an Android device … the average consumer walking into a VZW store or reseller does not. For many, they go in asking for a phone running Android – and maybe know enough to ask for more memory and/or faster processors … but don’t know the differences or benefits beyond that.

    It’s a matter of educating the consumer … a tricky task to accomplish successfully. If not done exactly right, it can cause confusion rather than helping the consumer; and potentially can help feed the claims of fragmentation.  Plus, just reaching the consumer can be a challenge; a big source of info for many is the network provider – and they have no incentive to be the one to train customers to want devices/features not currently offered.

  • Verizon,Google and the name DRoid

  • Anonymous

    I thought when Verizon bought the spectrum they were required to allow any capable device to use it?

    • For LTE, yes. For CDMA, no. Additionally, the rules for LTE devices state that no devices may be crippled in any form or fashion. Devices may not be hampered from operating on other carriers’ networks. However, Verizon routinely ignores these rules. The Motorola DROID RAZR is an excellent example of this. When Motorola announced the DROID RAZR, they announced that it would have LTE, CDMA, and global GSM+WCDMA capabilities. Indeed, the hardware does support it. 

      However, Verizon adjusted the firmware to removed the access to the GSM+WCDMA radio. They are dead in the device. Also, the rules can be interpreted in a way that implies that SIM locking is forbidden for LTE devices (or if SIM locking is allowed, the subscriber must be allowed to get it SIM unlocked). Good luck trying to get it SIM unlocked. Nobody at Verizon can do this for you. LTE devices are not registered in their system as SIM unlocked or SIM unlockable.

      Of course, nobody seems to care about this, so it never gets noticed. I only found out when I actually dug into Motodev and examined the phone at a Verizon store myself. I even called Verizon sales and support and inquired about it. Nobody knew that the phone actually supported working on GSM and WCDMA networks. It even is AT&T compatible. To be honest, I’m actually surprised that Droid Life didn’t notice either. You can check for yourself if you want[1].

      The XYBOARDs also have the same issue[2][3]. While the banding isn’t mentioned there, I have verified that all global capabilities are fully disabled in the XYBOARDs.

      [1]: http://developer.motorola.com/products/droid-razr-xt912/
      [2]: http://developer.motorola.com/products/droid-xyboard-8-2-mz609/
      [3]: http://developer.motorola.com/products/droid-xyboard-10-1-mz617/

  • NotoriousNeo

    So because Google conceded over what branding the phone should have and two ultimately removable apps it’s the worst Nexus phone available? Uh…o_O…k…clearly the fact that it is still a non-skinned version of Android and that Google is in charge of the updates isn’t enough…

    • It’s not just those compromises to Verizon that make it the worst Nexus, but also the continued abandon of the original Nexus vision. This nexus strays the furthest from the original plan.

  • Peter Kelly

    It’s a Nexus.  But, since it’s on a CDMA network, Verizon has the last word.


    The most pertinent quote (with middle stuff removed):
    “Concepts like the “Google experience” can only exist on GSM networks because only GSM requires carriers to accept phones they haven’t approved for use. If you want to be called GSM, you have to take unlocked devices, as long as they comport with the GSM Association’s standards and national rules…There’s no such option on Verizon’s and Sprint’s CDMA networks. If you want access to those carriers’ networks, you have to play by their rules.”

    Overall, a damn nice phone.  Battery life for me hasn’t even been that bad, once I popped in the extended battery.  Personally, i was shocked how much it improved charging.  I turned on My Tracks during a golf round today.  It was still over 60% 4 1/2 hours later.  (By the way, it’s about 7 miles)  I don’t HAVE to charge every day, though I’ll usually throw it on the charger at night.   But it’s usually around 60% at the end of the day.  I should note that I’ve only had to go to work a couple days since I got it.  Most of the time it’s on the wifiz.  It hasn’t dropped a call.   Speedtest.net gave me 27Mbps down, 12Mbps up at the Rockets game last night.  That’s more than double what I get at home on the wifiz.

  • Galaxy Nexus in Android green on T-Mobile please.

  • STiK

    Google needs to stop using crap hardware for their Nexus line.

  • Felipe1345

    I agree,its about the principle of the Nexus brand,not sales,not Google logos,not disabling apps,its supposed to be pure Google goodness,not something that was tainted by a carrier.

  • Anonymous

    It’s funny how a lot of people are saying it is not a big deal that Verizon has their bloatware installed on the Galaxy Nexus and that it is just a phone.What happens if Google never gives Verizon another Nexus device?.I can already see all the idiots who didn’t think it was a big deal be the first ones to bitch about it.

  • Anonymous

    All this whining about this phone not being a “true Nexus” is getting old. For Pete’s sake, it’s still stock Android with updates straight from Google! And heaven forbid they add 2 apps wasting something like a whopping 25 mb out of 32 gigs which, by the way, are apps people may actually be interested in using. And the whole Google Wallet thing is irrelevant. Yeah, the Nexus S 4G on Sprint has it, but does the T-Mobile or ATT version? NO. They’re what you would call “true Nexi,” and yet they also lack it. Can’t we just be happy and rejoice that we FINALLY after two years again get to experience a stock Android experience with most of the bloat trimmed on Verizon without rooting and romming? Do you appreciate and realize this is the first device of it’s type since the OG DROID? I’m just tired of people complaining and whining about how this isn’t a “true Nexus” because of a few weak arguments.

    • I think everyone does realize that this is the first stock device since the Droid. I think that’s why people are so upset: it starts with little concessions and ends with a device that strays even further from what Nexus devices were supposed to be. I think that original vision got a lot of people on board with Google’s push for Android and we want to see them stick to their guns.

  • Ron, its not that serious…

  • Bob

    I bought the Nexus because I wanted control over my phone.  I had a Droid X and without rooting it, all I could do was hide the excess bloatware from Verizon, but I couldn’t turn it off, so everything still ran.  With the Nexus I have 10 apps running, all of which I installed or are core functions of the phone.  When the screen is turned off there is no indication that it is on Verizon.  Every Verizon phone I see has the name plastered on the front of the phone.  The back panel is exchangeable and you can easily remove the Verizon logo without problems.

    What does bug me is that 4.0.3 is out and we don’t have it, but the Nexus S does.  The Galaxy Nexus should have it before anyone else as it is the flagship phone of ICS.  Verizon is holding it to fix the signal bar issue, so I have to wait for that.

    What I am not worried about is the phone being forgotten by Google (like the Droid X is never going to get an official ICS upgrade), so I am fine with the wait.

    • Anonymous

      So you either want NS owners worldwide to have to wait to get their update until every single GN is running 4.0.3, or you’d rather Verizon didn’t bother to patch bugs that are under its control?  That makes no sense.  Updates should be pushed out when the are ready and not a moment before.  4.0.3 for the NS is ready; 4.0.3 for the GN is not.

  • Anonymous

    The worst Nexus yet? Is My Verizon really so damaging to the user experience that it makes the latest and greatest iteration of Android yet pale in comparison to Froyo and Gingerbread? You seem to have a distorted view of what the Nexus line is that doesn’t seem to match up with Google’s, and it has your priorities all out of whack. All of your grievances are very minor annoyances that are easily resolved, and aren’t even considered issues on any other device. But you drone on as if they are absolute deal breakers.  The Galaxy Nexus is hardly perfect, but your hyperbole discredits the few good points you made in the article. 

    • You’re entitled to your opinion just like I am. I think Google can do better and shouldn’t make these kinds of concessions with the carriers. They’re better than that.

      • Josh Nichols

        Did you ever stop and think that people use the two included apps? That maybe they in some magical way ENHANCE the user experience for people that don’t consider them bloat?

        Did you also notice how the GSM Nexus doesn’t even have Google Wallet without it being sideloaded?

        You get paid to write here?

        • I know that some people use them. That’s fine, they can get them from the market. I honestly couldn’t care less about Google Wallet, by I know some people want it and see it as Verizon exerting more control where they shouldn’t. We don’t really know why it’s not on the other phones, which is why I don’t emphasize that point.

        • josh your not getting the point of his article. its not about the people who use those apps. its the fact that verizon has the power to put them there. google should be stepping up and not allowing it. when u buy a verizon iPhone you do not see any verizon apps installed. as much as i despise apple products you have to give apple credit for that.

  • There was a Verizon logo on my Bionic.. Then it was gone. 🙂 

  • PC_Tool

    FFS, people…get a clue!

    Nexus does not equal pure android.  It never has.

    Nexus “means” fully unlockable and fully supported in the AOSP device tree.

    That is all.

    Feel free to continue with your useless, uninformed, though thoroughly entertaining whining.

  • U Mad Bro? No But Your Mom Is

    Sure hope someone important at Google/Android reads this and does something about it. 

    • U Mad Bro? No But Your Mom Is

      And Ron, U Mad Bro??? j/k 🙂 

    • PC_Tool

      They will.  They’ll laugh.

      This Nexus is fully unlockable and 100% supported in the AOSP device tree.  This is all it needs to be in order to be considered a Nexus.

      • U Mad Bro? No But Your Mom Is

        I mean I totally get that. I LOOOVE my GNEX, and consider it to be not only a great phone, but also the best Nexus yet. I’m just saying that I see some of the points that he made. 

        • PC_Tool

          Oh, definitely. I see them too. Right there in the article. *grin*

          …I just don’t agree that it somehow doesn’t make it a nexus, just because he believes in some flawed definition of what a Nexus is. 😉

          • I don’t think my definition is flawed at all. We all saw their original vision of what a Nexus would be and they’ve strayed away from it. If all you want is a phone that you can do whatever you want with, there have been plenty of phones to match that description. I want what Google was originally aspiring to.

          • PC_Tool

            Ok…so tell me:  Do you know the definition of a nexus device?  What is it?

            …as stated by JBQ?  (Do you even know who he is??)

            Does it have *anything* to do with the build of Android it is released with?  At all?

            Do you have a *clue* what it *does* include?

            (HINT: I’ve posted it several times in comments to your “rant”)

          • Feel free to show me an official statement from Google defining what a Nexus is.

  • Anonymous

    Love the last line: think about it – it is a VERY true statement…Verizon would probably become very close to bankruptcy without Android, Google would have another 148 networks to rely on (including giants like AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, Vodafone, O2, etc.)

  • Tfelty0

    Love this article! Well said! Somebody needs to stick it to Verizon, and Google is a big enough company to do it!

  • Tim242

    If Verizon controlled way too much of it…the bootloader would be locked. Most of you complaining will never be satisfied. It’s stock Android. It has an.unlockable bootloader. Will get updates fast. The only thing you complain about is Google Wallet, and no Google logo. Wallet is only officially on one Nexus. As far as the logo…the google logo was on the htc hero. Need I say more? STFU with this real Nexus BS

    • I complained about a lot more than the logo and Google Wallet. Personally, I couldn’t care less about Google Wallet, but I know some people want it. The logo is simply a symbol of their submission to Verizon. It’s a small thing, perhaps, but it signifies a major change. Shouldn’t Google’s official phone have their name on it? Google should have this phone on all carriers without any bloat. It should be available unlocked and on contract. We’ve seen Google stand up to the carriers before, I just want them to stick to their guns.

      • Tim242

        FYI: This is the Samsung Galaxy Nexus, not the Google Galaxy Nexus. Again, the Google logo has been on many HTC Sense phones. Their logo doesn’t mean squat.

        Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

        • I think it means more than squat, but you’re entitled to your opinion.

  • PowerofPicture

    Another bitchy article by Ron. “Tainted Nexus”.  Give me a break.

    • You don’t have to read them of you don’t like them. 🙂

  • Tim242

    Nexus means stock Android, not pure. Big difference. Google has its own share of bloat, like Earth, latitude, books, etc.

    • PC_Tool

      Actually, all nexus means is unlockable and 100% supported in the AOSP device tree.

      Galaxy Nexus?  Done and done. 


  • So I think there has been one oversight in this article.  When I boot my phone up, under the Google logo there is a little open lock at the bottom of my screen.  That little open lock makes all the difference in the world.  It means that I don’t have to keep Verizon’s alterations.  I can change this phone any way that I see fit because Verizon allowed an easily unlockable, easily rootable phone on their network for the first time since the OG Droid.  That’s where the real progression in the Nexus is.  The ability to really take charge of your phone and make it yours, regardless of what the carrier thinks.

    • I could do that with my Droid Incredible too, but that doesn’t make it a Nexus.

  • Tim242

    My POS htc hero had Google branding on the back. Logos mean nothing. I’m just glad the front of the phone is logoless. I wouldn’t even want a Google logo on the front.

    • I think they mean more than nothing, but you’re entitled to your opinion.

  • Dliuzzo110

    All opinions aside I wish people would understand these articles are supposed to provoke thought and invoke debate and discussion. Not to take shots across the authors bow. His opinion is his opinion. He doesn’t come to your work and challenge your ideas and personal outlook does he?

    • Anonymous

      It’s not the opinion that is bothersome, it’s how uninformed some of the claims are, like for instance the claim that a Nexus device isn’t truly a Nexus device without Google Wallet. This is a baseless claim because both the T-Mobile and AT&T Nexus S’ also lack Google Wallet and they’re both regarded as true Nexi. Plus, the complaining about the “Verizon bloat” is getting really old. There’s 2 apps. You have 32 gigs of storage. These apps take up a few mb. Plus, you can hide them if it really bothers you. Sounds like a non-issue to me. It doesn’t even sound like a valid argument, just like someone whining just to whine.

      • I never said that the Galaxy Nexus isn’t a real Nexus device, I said its the worst one yet. I think issues like bloat ware and logos are important, but the most important thing to me is that Google has strayed from their original vision of what the Nexus line of phones should be.

    • Exactly. I know everyone isn’t going to agree with my opinion, but I love that many are willing to discuss and debate.

    • Josh Nichols

      This article does provoke thought and invoke debate. It is all directed towards the dumbass author.

      • I don’t mind if you disagree with me, but please make an argument instead of just calling me names.

  • I’m taking my Galaxy Nexus back, screen messes up too much by artifacting and blocking and can’t send pictures messages, I’ll try a replacement, but sadly if it doesn’t work either, guess I’ll have to go with another phone

    • Corey Foltman

      I came from a Razr, its a nice phone. They are both great phones. I haven’t had issues with either. You probably just got one of the ones that slipped through Samsung Q.C.

  • Anonymous

    Off-topic question – but does any other GNex owner feel the screen is almost completely fingerprint and smudge proof??

    I felt like all I did with my OG was wipe the screen for 2 years

    • Corey Foltman

      i disagree. I’ve had this GNex for 3days and I wipe the screen multiple times a day. Maybe not as bad as the OG, but a screen is a screen and it gets smudged.

      • Anonymous

        weird – I never wipe (insert joke here I guess) :p

  • Corey Foltman
  • Adam Brandt

    AMEN…wow you hit the nail on the head!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    I think VZ’s 4G LTE network was too appealing to pass up, and they knew it.  The chance to be a top of the line phone on the fastest network was more appealing than sticking to a “clean” nexus.  They also knew more people would buy the phone on VZ than any other carrier.  IMO, VZ doesn’t know how well this could have gone for them.  They see the RAZR as the money-maker, and while they don’t want any of their phones to fail, they are inevitably going to promote one at the expense of others.  You’d think with all the concessions they forced from Google and Samsung that they would be a little more proud of the device and promote it a little better.

    • Corey Foltman

      i think they won a battle. most vzw phones have 10-20 bloatware apps. our Nexus has 2. one of them i use to be like “o yea, look at how many i gb’s ive used!”. the other is nice for first time android users to get their contacts. but after that first time the use it to get their contacts back, it is useless.

  • Corey Foltman

    of course, buying the Google cover on ebay and then taking a dremel tool to it could fix that…

  • Corey Foltman

    Would have been nice is “Google” was branded above the Verizon check…like my bad photoshop…

    • Corey Foltman

      of course, buying the Google cover on ebay and then taking a dremel tool to it could fix that…

      • Corey Foltman

        i should have photoshopped that vzw logo centered between google and samsung…would be slightly more appealing to the eye…o well. the back cover is covered by my case to care either way…it could have a picture of MiMi from the Drew Carey show on it for all I care hahaha

  • thefullritz

    I think the real point hear is that Goggle did need VZW to get their phones to the masses.  But VZW should worry, I think Google has its’ sites set on much bigger things.

    • absolutely. Verizon is scared to death of Google, along with Comcast. In time, Google will eventually (hopefully) be directly competing against Verizon/Comcast. Especially with Google Fiber underway, there could be another ISP in town. 

  • that’s what i said. lol

  • Anonymous

    Google should buy T-Mobile.

    • Anonymous

      Agree, also It is only a matter of time before Comcast steps into the wireless service market. T-Mobile might be a pretty good start for them. Apple could be a potential contender as well. Might be interesting to see what happens with T-Mobile now.

  • Anonymous

    Bloody hell you took the words right out of my mouth. 

  • just waiting for ICS on my RAZR lol!

  • Tshammie

    I think he knows its just a battery cover. I also think he knows its just a few apps. That’s not the point he was trying to make. I think the point he is trying to make is that, the nexus name meant pure android. Whether it be 1 app or 100 its not pure, so its not nexus. Do I agree with him, not really. Why? Because I really don’t care. I do how ever see the point he’s making. Take baseball. Do you know how many old farts got mad when they added replay? They claimed it took away for the game and what it stood for. Some agree some don’t, but we all see the point the old farts were making. I think we should all be amazed at how far the nexus and other phones have come in just two years. Branded or loaded down with apps, the hardware is what makes the phone IMO.

  • Anonymous

    Ron you are a moron. You have no clue an are just another whiny nexus fanboy….oh it doesn’t say Google on the back…waaa waaa. Grow up and se your brain. While Verizon has a lot of power and Apple touts their power as well, maybe Google wants to be different. Maybe they just want to make software continue to work with a developer phone released to the masses every once and a while. A nexus has nothing to do with what apps are installed or what is or isn’t on the battery cover. A nexus is an unlockable device that has an untouched os that someone can do whatever they want on it. But Google is getting smarter with their sales because the n1 was a bust for sales and the s wasn’t much better. The nerds on this site are not the majority of android phone buyers, and Google is a business that wants to make money. And they are more then ever and will continue to as android evolves. Pretty sure Google knows what they are doing more than a bunch of whiny nerds on some blog site. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but some opinions are better kept to yourself….especially when you are clueless on what you are talking about. There….there is my opinion.

    • Anonymous

      actually that is a great point. I said in an earlier post, the logo does not bother me, what bothers me is Apple gets away with it and Google lets it happen. Maybe Google just doesn’t care as long as its a good product on a good network.

    • I’m fine with you disagreeing with me. I’m not always right (although I stand by what I wrote). That said, I’d prefer you make an argument instead of calling me a whiny moron. It’s definitely possible that Google just doesn’t want to challenge the phone industry, but I doubt it. I think they want to change things for the better. Hopefully these changes were just some minor setbacks.

      • Anonymous

        Well then next time you make your opinion know, back them up with actual facts. This post was whiny and uninformed. Just read everyones comments, I am not the only one say this.

        • Some agree with me, some disagree. It happens every time.

  • Anonymous

    Totally agree Ron. Good point of view.

  • Anthony Armando

    i had a dream where google bought verizon. it was glorious.

    • Rodd

      I had a similar dream..
      but it was about Google buying T-mobile after the AT&T-mobile merger fell apart.
      maybe it was because i prefer GSM phones over CDMA

  • zach taylor

    I knew kellex did not right this with all this hate on Gnex

  • As much as I wish the Nexus were a truly pure Google device, wishes are just wishes and TBH this article makes some really weak points in support of its title. Now that they have the iPhone and with WP7 as a backup plan, Verizon doesn’t need Google at all. Remember, this is the same carrier that turned down Apple’s iPhone exclusivity offer and is still the largest in the business AND now has the iPhone despite that decision.

    The real reason Google needs Verizon is no other carrier’s 4G LTE network comes close to it. If you want a truly leading edge mobile device, then VZW’s network is the only viable option.

    Really though: if having a pure Google device is that religiously important to you, switch to AT&T. No one’s forcing to keep Verizon and it’s not as if other options don’t exist.

    • Verizon bent over backwards to get the iPhone. Remember all the changes that were rolled out right after the iPhone was released? Sprint had to make similar changes as well. Windows Phone 7 is irrelevant at this point (Windows Mobile still has more market share). Verizon tried to challenge Apple with Android, and they did, but they knew the only way to really secure more subscribers was to have the best network with the best phones, which includes the iPhone.

  • Mike


    • rrosotho

      LOL !!!

  • The title is misleading….should state why google is on its knees for verizon…..having said that two apps on my nexus does not hother me one bit as long as it stays lioe this and no bloatware added…
    As for the back i just dont care….dont see a needed dight because it says 4glte with verizon

  • i agree to some point, but if google put their foot down as much as apple does, we’d have two apples.. :/ i would hate that. i kind of like their “good guy” approach.

  • Sean27030

    standing… APPLAUSE!!!!!!!!

  • Sk102704

    It’s so funny how all these Nexus fanboys love to talk s**t about every other device out there but as soon as someone says anything negative about their lovechild they get their panties all in a bunch.  Notice how in the title it says opinion and relax, he does have a valid point.

    • And what is the valid point? I think google said that every carrier has their own variation of the nexus and its not just verizon…..the only phone you could say has wallet is the sprint version so again its not just verizon

      • Sk102704

        There are a lot of valid points.  Try reading it again but this time take off your Nexus colored glasses…

  • To be entirely frank.  I think Google is using the Android mobile platform as development for something much bigger in the long term.  Much bigger.  Google has never been overly concerned with this year, or next year.  They’re thinking decades, even generations.  Look at their stock history for proof of that.  VZW is a juggernaut, no arguing that.  But they’re the kind of juggernaut who can vanish overnight in one massive corporate act of economic violence or technological relativism.  Compared to Google, they’re ephemeral.

  • why doesn’t google buy t-mobile and have their own network to do as they please with their devices?

    • id rather them buy sprint, someone posted a article about apple possibly doing so but i think if google did it would be amazing. seeing as theyre putting up lte towers now, the company would be cheap to buy and they have more towers then t-mobile.

  • Anonymous

    I support this article 100%. Of course ive never been more satisfied with a phone in my life but verizon controls way to much of it

  • Wmsco51

    The verizon pple has and always been greedy and powerfreaks they have never been about the customer they have always been about there wallet and how to get you to bite then reel you in.
    Until the government puts the smackdown on them they will continue to find ways to make billions off us. To give power back to the pple, carriers should not be able to sell phones just manufacturer’s. Why? Then use can buy the phone of your choice with the latest tech not to mention they will be competing for your dollars, and carriers will standardized their tech to compete with the latest phones as well as prices for more customers. As it stands right now they are holding back innovation, phone releases, updates, and your freedom of choices in creativity on your phone as well as making prices go sky high.
    So asking you what can we do? Nothing is not a option! Please post and maybe someone of important will be able to get the legislation going!

  • weapon x

    It’s all about money, not the OS, not giving the customer the “Pure Google experience” , not about giving us what we want, its all about companies doing what companies do…make money. They really don’t give a damn about us guys….they just want our money. And according to the last “what phone do you have” poll, many here gave it up..very willingly.

  • Anonymous

    The fact that it has an unlocked bootloader is a win for me

  • Umm, this headline basically goes against what the article says.. You should of said, Google needs Verizon to let them do what they want 

    • no look at the ending paragraph, without androids verizon would be nothing. meaning they need google.  

      • The whole article is about why google is being passive towards verizon the tirle is misleading….one sentence does not make up for all the other paragraphs basically bashing google and then saying how the nexus sucks even rho its rhe best phone out??

        • yes theyre passive, but if i read it right, hes saying google shouldnt be passive and should demand certain things that it has the power to do. they just give in and make deals too quick.

  • Commando

    Ok, its getting to the point where I don’t think you guys get it. Google is not a charity, it’s not going to say no to a company, willing to pay them billions of dollars, so that they can comply with the wants of a couple hundred fanboys who want a “pure google experience.” People need to stop expecting that their wants are going to come before business.

    • weapon x


  • Anonymous

    People see 2 useful apps from the carrier as the thing which tainted the phone.  These are useful apps.  They didn’t make me have the malware apps so Im fine with these 2 apps.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t see how the GN is any less of a Nexus than previous versions.

    • So what you’re saying is that you didn’t read the article? Noted.

      • Anonymous

        No, I read it.  I didn’t find it persuasive though.

        Get over yourself.

      • Anonymous

        dude why are you so bitter?


    I agree, but unfortunately I don’t think the ignorant masses understand the real point of Android and the Nexus devices.
    Hopefully the next Nexus will be made by Motorola.

    • Anonymous

      I doubt moto will ever make a nexus – one reason. Moto doesn’t have the global footprint companies like Samsung has – and I’m willing to bet that’s the reason Motorola won’t make one. Plus it seems moto has a vested interest in making their own software.

      Google wants global market share – Moto doesn’t have the global presence, heck they don’t even have a real presence outside Verizon in the US

      • Kidheated

        Agreed. Moto sucks. Samsung shits on them, hands down. If Moto wanted to stick to anything they should stay with hardware, cause their software blows. All they are is a ugly candy coating for their delicious patent center.

        • Anonymous

          I don’t hate Moto, I just wish they stopped with software.

          But my argument with moto nexus is that they’re mostly US on Verizon.

    • PC_Tool

      “but unfortunately I don’t think the ignorant masses understand the real point of Android and the Nexus devices.”

      Heh…this ought to be good:

      Do tell….what *is* the real point of Android and the Nexus Devices??

  • weapon x

    If this was in fact the worst nexus yet, then why the hell did this site went on and on and on and on.. on how this was the greatest phone ever and implied that if you  love android, you HAVE to have this phone. Seems like someone needs to take their foot out of their mouth

    • weapon x

      Yea, I know I said it wrong…but you guys know what I mean.

      • You’re right, just wondering though, are you in the band weapon X?

        • weapon x

          I didn’t even know that there was a band with that name. 

  • Anonymous

    “The worst Nexus we’ve seen yet”

    The old saying, “opinions are like assholes” is so fitting right now..

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    half-sister makes $80 every hour on the laptop. She has been fired for 8 months
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  • Anonymous

    Google Wallet isn’t really a valid point. The only Nexus to have it is the Nexus S 4G on Sprint. It’s not available on any version of the Nexus One, nor the Nexus S on T-Mobile or AT&T. I don’t particularly mind the logo or the easily removed preinstalled apps.
    What I do mind, is that Google is losing control of the Nexus. Google should take a page for Apple’s book in this circumstance. The next Nexus should be announced with a release date for all four major carriers, as well as an unlocked GSM version (maybe even make it one global phone with GSM, CDMA, and LTE). If a carrier fails to release it on that date, then they lose sales to all of the other carriers that do release it. If Google really wanted to exercise control, they can prevent carriers that don’t release the Nexus from using Google Apps on their phones. Google could also use this same tactic to enforce updates. Require phones to provide updates for at least 2 years after release in order to have Google Apps. Even better, use the same tactic for custom skins and require that they have an option to be removed. Google needs to start asserting more control over the Nexus and Android as a whole.

  • weapon x

    Wow, glad to see at least most people have some common sense and understanding about how the mobile industry works. Not just fanboy hoopla. Congrats yall

  • Nick Bohl

    I must disagree with the dissention to the current device. Yes, google needs to step up, but I feel that 2 apps is not bloat. Love-handles maybe, but it’s incredibly minimal and I think the my verizon app is very beneficial for those with capped data plans. Also, as OMJ said, vzw is not the only one blocking google wallet. vzw, att, and T-mo are involved in a joint effort to provide their own wallet-type app, so that’s just the way it’s going to be. The big three want their own kickback from the banks.. Other than that, I think this device is fantastic. The 4g outages might also be annoying, but that’s not a device problem either. Lastly, anyone who is smart will have a case (even a paper-thin one like mine) on their phone, so who cares if it says google or verizon… it’s still the verizon version, so why not put the vzw logo on it? I just don’t get the level of agression that is being conveyed.

    • It’s not necessarily about things like Google Wallet, but more about Google straying away from their original vision of what a Nexus should be.

  • RealisticAndroidFan

    When will people learn? VZW doesn’t need ANYONE. 
    They have enough money and power, to sell and brand anything they want. 

    Android needs VZW to stay relevant, so Apple marketing doesn’t crush the Android OS into the ground. 

    This coming from a Droid Xer, and a GNex-er.

  • Doublea501

    Heres my opinion.  Google should have gotten there branding onto the phone.  even the droid 1 has google branding and its not even a google phone.  i can care less about the verizon branding, but google should have at least put there name on the phone.

    with the 2 verizon apps, i can care less.  they can be disabled within a minute of having the phone or can be completely removed if you are rooted.  Not a big deal, just be happy your not getting nfl demo games or anything, that is true bloatware.

    for the carrier crap.  VZW is fine.  Google is not going to make there own carrier for one phone each year.  Apple doesnt have there own carrier, why should google?  Its not a snap of the finger to make a carrier.  especially with the expanded networks, they will have to be able to match others with.  the thing about google is that they do not fail.  They take few risks, but must come out on top.  If they make a carrier, and get owned with their older technology for the first year, then they be laughed at and there sales for there other products will go down.  Verizon does not need google.  Google needs verizon.  If google does not have verizon then most of the customers will just get an iphone on vzws network.

    • Legendsoftroy

      Dont want to be rude but when you first turn on the phone the first thing you see is the Google branding. Thats more than enough for me.

  • Ron,
    very interesting points in this..

    • Justin Ellis

      Whats up BMX!!!

  • Anonymous

    Silly article driven by fanboyism, instead of business acumen.

    VZW does need Google, but you’re insane if you think Google doesn’t need VZW as well. Google is in no real position to compromise their relationship with the largest carrier in the US. The same can be said in the other direction. At the end of the day, neither side can lose the other, so suggesting bully tactics is silly.

    Then there’s the “throw money at VZW” argument. Um… I fail to see how that makes any sense. Why would Google do this? To push out the Nexus of their dreams…. OK.. is there a real reason? Nobody is going to invest billions into buying their way into a position that serves to generate no additional revenue by having done so. If Google actually, thought that Android was being perverted SO much that it is hurting brand identity, and keeping sales down, that would be one thing, but Android numbers continue to soar, and let’s not forget, a lot of that is SPECIFICALLY due to VZW’s help. How does it serve Google to make sure the Nexus is bloat free, so much so, that they should pay VZW to do it?

    Maybe when the Nexus One was being developed, and Android sales were still low (pre Droid days), Google could have legitimately believed sales were low BECAUSE of carriers or manufacturers perverting AOSP. They really believed they had to do something. At this point, they can’t really believe that, and the Nexus project can’t be much more than a showcase for what’s new with Android… or just a pet project, really. Nothing worth throwing crazy amounts of money. Not even Google can change the US cell phone model, and they’re gaining PLENTY from it now, so why bother?

    • I think the simple answer is that Google should aspire to make the best products available. I don’t think that’s a bad goal to have.

  • damn, cry me a river

  • Thelegendodavid

    What a horrible rant. Someone bitch slap this fool

  • Mike McCrary

    Sigh…not this again.

    1. Who really cares what the back cover says? You will never see it during normal phone use. 
    2. Google Wallet IS NOT part of the AOSP. It is a closed-source program that is ONLY available on the Sprint Nexus S. It is NOT available on the unlocked GSM Galaxy Nexus. It is a SPRINT exclusive application. And yes, it can be sideloaded, VERY easily and with NO hacking, rooting, or unlocking required. This should be a testament to how open the LTE Galaxy Nexus really is.
    3. The Verizon apps can be disabled and hidden. You will never see them and they will not affect your phone whatsoever aside from the paltry 3 MB of space they take up.
    4. The Verizon Galaxy Nexus is DIRECTLY supported in the AOSP tree and gets updates direct from Google. Some of the “unlocked” GSM Galaxy Nexus models are NOT supported by Google in the AOSP and have software builds that are built, supported, and updated by Samsung. 

    Can we stop with the “the Verizon Galaxy Nexus is not a TRUE Nexus!” whining, please? It’s an incredible phone, with a stock version of Android, is easily unlocked/rooted/hackable, and is supported in the AOSP tree. AND it’s on Verizon. AND it has LTE speeds. If a branded back cover that you’ll never see when operating the device and two apps that are A. actually useful and B. can be disabled completely really bother you and are deal breakers, I think you need to think about your priorities when choosing a device. 

    Oh, and “this Nexus is the worst Nexus yet”? A totally laughable, inane comment. 

    I know this article is all your opinion, but your opinion is molded by incomplete or flat-out false facts and exaggerations. 

    You’re wrong. 

    • ^ Win.

    • Lmrojas

      Ron, your opinions are dumb.
      Kellex, hire Mike to write opinions at least he’s informed.

      • Matt Ryan

        I would bet my Nexus that despite Ron’s complaining he is using a VZW Nexus as his primary device.  

        This message sent whilst clutching my beautiful Nexus as it whispers sweet google music to my ears.

      • You’re free to disagree, but please make an argument instead of just saying I’m wrong. That doesn’t help anyone.

        • Blootzm3

          dont worry your right Ron I see your point. your like the human rights activist fighting the man and governments control over real freedom. and the rest of these people are ignorant to what the future can hold if we let it continue. kinda like that 2$ charge Verizon would love to lay on you if we let them. those who say nothing now accept the charge. and people like you fight it behind closed doors. the unsung hero. MikeMcCrary should get charged an extra 2$ a month on his bill, he’s ok with that. its only 2$ extra, little things dont bother him. then when Verizon bumps it up to a hundred with their control on him we will see who is laughing then.

          • Mike McCrary


        • Lmrojas

          Why am I going to re articulate the points the post above me made? People like you are ruining the Android game. You guys sat there and cried and cried about a pure Android device, when you knew you would hack and rom any way to have AOSP on your device(90% of Android users don’t care about Skins). Now you finally get the dream Nexus and you cry because it has a logo on the back to reflect that it runs on Verizons 4g LTE network? Because it has 2 carrier apps ( My Verizon is useful, Backup assistant is not) that can be removed because Google knew you guys would cry. You cry because it doesn’t have Google wallet, NEWS FLASH Sprint is the only carrier that allows Google wallet. Are you mad that Currents, Catalog and Reader aren’t pre installed? You know those are other Apps made by Google.

          • My point isn’t that a Nexus should have all of Google’s apps preinstalled. I personally could care less about Google Wallet. I mentioned it because I know it was a sticking point for some. My point is that the Nexus line was originally about making the best phone possible on every carrier. I think Google needs to return to that vision.

          • The Gnex isnt the best possible phone right now? Seriously. Whats better an iPhone 4s?

          • The camera could be better and I personally don’t care for the actual look of the phone, but those are pretty trivial issues. The biggest way it could be a better phone would be for it to have zero influence from Verizon.

          • Blootzm3

            zero influence would be perfect

    • Anonymous

      I think its safe to say this is the greatest phone Verizon will see for a while because it has the ability to be so thoroughly customized since it is unlocked. All the custom themes and Rome that you saw with the d1 will blossom again. The fact that it gets updates from Google is a bonus as far as I am concerned. When I had my og I was flashing Pete’s stuff. I didn’t even care about the ota’s. For me it is a breath of fresh air just to have the freedom of an unlocked bootloader

    • Blootzm3

      -100 go buy yourself a Motorola controled by verizon, and let the real pure ist have their nexus. thats what you realy want to buy with that attitude, verizon control. Motorola is not a bad device in any way but the pupose of the nexus is purity.

    • I never said that the Galaxy Nexus isn’t a real Nexus device. I said it’s the worst one yet because it strays the furthest from Google’s original vision of what a Nexus device should be.

  • Anonymous

    Worst Nexus device yet? Based on what?

    Did you smoke some expired crack or something? This phone is amazing!

    • I agree that it’s a great phone, I just think it could be better. Google’s original vision of what a Nexus phone should be makes more sense to me.

  • Anonymous

    Wow, enough with the it’s not a Nexus meme already.  Is the phone locked down?  Does the phone have a crazy amount of bloat?  Is there any other framework on the phone aside from Android 4.0?  If the answer to all of those questions is no, then it’s a Nexus.

    Wowee it has 2 Verizon apps.  Big deal, I factory reset my Thunderbolt to give to my mother and I was in absolute shock at how much bloat was on the phone and I had only had the Nexus for a week.  The amount of bloat on the other phones is absolutely ridiculous.

    • I never said the Galaxy Nexus isn’t a real Nexus, I said it’s the worst one because it strayed the farthest from Google’s original vision of what a Nexus device should be.

  • I 100% agree with this article! I am completely frustrated at what is going on with the Nexus line right now!

  • “It may be said that it’s impossible to get on a carrier’s network
    without making concessions, but apparently Apple was able to pull it
    off. If Apple can do it, Google definitely can.”


    Apple can pull it off because only Apple makes iPhones.  Anyone can make an Android phone.  Sure, it may have a different skin, but it will still give users access to the same applications, etc., and to most consumers, pretty much the same experience.

    I went with a Nexus so I could get stock Android.  Not all consumers care about that.  They will buy what looks the prettiest or is the fastest.  They don’t care if it says Google, HTC, Samsung, or Motorola on the back.

  • jnt

    Verizon has gotten (always been?) cocky and too big for their own britches.  I hope the bad publicity they’re FINALLY receiving on the LTE issues helps bring them down a notch.  

  • PC_Tool

    “Sure, it has the latest version of Android (which is fantastic) and it’s on my carrier of choice (finally!), but at what cost?”

    Seriously?  What cost?  A battery-cover and two apps? 

    Sorry, the “wallet issue” isn’t an issue because it is *not* part of AOSP.  It’s bloat.  If it was included, you’d probably be bitching about that; “It’s not true AOSP because it has Wallet!”

    The battery-cover is about the lamest excuse I’ve ever heard.  It’s a cover.  It affects the device not one iota.  Get over it.

    The two apps take a whopping 5 minutes to completely remove.  Unlock, root, remove, done. 

    Yeah…in less time than it took you to write that pointless rant.

    Verizon now has a Nexus.  Updated by Google (and 3rd party devs) at an astronomical pace.  WE have a plethora of 4.0.3 AOSP roms, plus several AOSP+ as well as an already almost completely functional build of MIUI.  You can rest assured that both Cyanogen and the MIUI-porting groups will both be supporting this device officially once their ICS builds reach nightly/weekly status.

    This is the Nexus device Verizon users we all have been waiting for.

    • Witness In The Congregation

      Ummmmmm…i change my AMENAAAAA to this comment. +100. No dollar needed.

    • Blootzm3

      wrong, its not perfect, but if your ok with being verizons free add, throw a tatoo on your head lets say your back neck so you wont see it. lol. and some people would rather not bother with having to take the extra step of root to remove apps and verizons control and greed. look at apple and how uncontroled by verizon it could be. why cant nexus be the same. think about it. and if your still ok with what verizon did with it… I want to see you lay that tatoo on your neck and post it on the web for all to see how in bed with verizon and their greed you are. I’ll then back down.

      • PC_Tool

        Lmao… If you aren’t planning to unlock or root…. The Nexus ain’t for you. Talk about bitching just to bitch…

      • Anonymous

        Comparing a tiny logo to a tattoo on one’s head? You exaggerating, bro?

    • It’s not about the battery cover or the apps as much as what those represent. The point of my article is that Google has strayed from their original vision of what a Nexus device should be. This is not the Nexus that all of us have been waiting for.

      • PC_Tool

        It’s not about the battery cover or the apps as much as what those represent”

        They represent a battery cover and two apps. They have nothing to do with the fact that the device is 100% supported by AOSP, updated by Google, and designed to be the reference device for ICS.

        “The point of my article is that Google has strayed from their original vision of what a Nexus device should be.”

        You do not know what the “vision” is.  The point of your “article” was to whine like a b*tch.  

        “This is not the Nexus that all of us have been waiting for.”

        More like: It’s not the fantasy you’ve imagined it should be.  Thankfully, the rest of us don’t live in your fantasy world.

        • You’re right, they have nothing to do with updates. They have to do with a carrier exerting too much control. These are minor things now, but it could get worse in time. I want to call them out now before they get worse.

          The point of my article wasn’t to whine, it was to call Google to a higher standard and remind them of their vision. You keep claiming that all a Nexus means is that it is supported in the AOSP tree and gets updates directly from Google. That’s part of the answer, and that may be the truth of it now (you have yet to produce an official statement from Google that articulates what a Nexus device is), but even if that’s what Google would say now, that’s not what they would have said with the Nexus One.

          I’m not alone in my convictions. I don’t mind you disagreeing,but please do it in a respectful way. I don’t agree with your position, but I haven’t resorted to calling you a “whiny bitch.” Please show me the same courtesy

  • Dr Piranha

    I can’t say that I agree with, well, anything stated here. It had one Verizon app pre-installed. ONE (arguably, VZW Backup is more of a service than an app). The lack of Google branding on the back of the device is a bit annoying, yes, but nothing about that screams “non-Nexus” to anyone. This device is just as much of a Nexus as all of its predecessors, regardless of which carrier it’s on. 

    • I agree, which is why I never said it isn’t a Nexus device.

  • Doan

    I dunno about the 5 colors on every carrier (which is likely an over-exaggeration), but I do think it should’ve been simultaneously released on the top 4 US carriers (This is coming from a Verizon customer).

    • Definitely an over exaggeration. Three colors at most. 🙂

  • Mr. Snrub

    I respect no one who considers the NFL mobile app to be bloatware.

    • Anonymous

      It may surprise you to know that not everyone likes sports…

      • Adam

        The NFL isn’t a ‘sport’, it’s ‘sports entertainment.’  These days, the NFL is one step above professional wrestling.  (TV timeouts, Madonna half time shows, a playoff structure designed for ratings rather than to determine the best team, etc)

        • Anonymous

          Maybe they should change their name to “National Entertainment League” than.

        • kretz7

          Really?! Football is not a sport because it has TV timeouts? When’s the last time you watched anything on TV? That’s like saying The Simpsons isn’t a cartoon because it has TV timeouts. 

          • The NFL is dangerously close to turning into the NBA… 

            The plethora of new rules in the last 5-10 years has turned the game into an all offense, no defense sort of league.

            Its disgusting (to me, atleast).

      • Mr. Snrub

        I’m aware of such anomalies.  I stand by my original judgment.

  • Matthew Rosidivito

    While I agree with this, I also fear that most customers aren’t concerned by it. We represent a small minority of not just Android, but Nexus enthusiasts. I doubt that the average smartphone user could even name the brand of their device off the top of their head.

    • Anonymous

      +1 Good point

    • jnt

      That’s really what it boils down to, and is why it’ll likely never change much.

  • Anonymous

    Google’s a service company, not product. And the only service they actually sell is advertising. They’ll never be a player in the supply chain, it’s not their core business.

    Hence, whyhow the G1 launch was a complete flop.

  • Google’s original vision was to make a phone that they could sell for $100 unlocked without contract by supporting it with advertising instead. Given how much Google makes from AdMob and search advertising, they could do it. They caved when no one played ball, though.

  • Anonymous

    Couldnet have said it better!  The last 2 sentences say it all..  Wake up verizon!!!

  • MFG

    The worst Nexus yet? Shut your mouth, you don’t know what you’re talking about. This Nexus does laps around the other two.

    • Doan

      I don’t think you understand this article.  He’s not comparing the hardware or performance of the phones.

  • Anonymous

    Very Well Said…

  • Anonymous

    I agree with you, but two measly Verizon apps is no big deal. Plus, we can’t forget that LTE plays a big role in this now. Google loves LTE on their flagship phones (thus giving VZW leverage) and the LTE network appears to be complicated to the point where any handset needs rigorous testing before launch (unlike GSM phones)

    • Doan

      This works the other way around, as well.  Verizon LOVES LTE, and wants it on all of their top-tier devices.  Verizon is doing everything they can to push LTE, so I’m pretty sure that Verizon wanted LTE on the phone even more than Google did.

      • Anonymous

        That is a good point.

      • Anonymous

        I have to say that I feel differently.  I believe that Google was just as much behind the 4G as Verizon.  If not just for R&D purposes (get ICS and LTE bugs out now), but marketing as well.  4G > 3G = $$$ > $

  • Anonymous

    1 more thing, Google has challenged facebook, that is Google+.

  • Anonymous

    Good post Ron, I totally agree. 

  • rudolphe

    Except for one thing… Android wouldn’t be where it is right now without Verizon’s aggressive marketing push for the Droid line. If Verizon had instead gotten the iPhone early on instead of wholesale adopting Android, iOS market share would likely still be higher than Androids. What would Google do if Verizon decided to stop selling Androids? I’m willing to bet Google would bend before Verizon would. Granted, VZW would lose a lot of customers in the process, myself included, but that’s besides the point.
    And “worst Nexus we’ve seen yet”Really? Because of branding on the cover and two pieces of Verizon software? That’s a bit much.

    • Anonymous

      +1 Agreed – Google needs as many users as possible = they will always bend first. Otherwise VZW could simply push the iPhone harder

      • Blootzm3

        they wont push the iphone idiot, they have no control over it. look at their advertising. so far I see droid adds on verizon. and they advertise the ones they control the most for the most profit.

        • Anonymous

          I wouldn’t call him an idiot, but VZW does push Android far more. It’s probably because they’re the only LTE capable phones.

    • Kris Brandt

      The reason why Verizon pushed so hard for the Droid was because they didn’t have the iPhone.  They wanted to compete and to do so was to market this phone that did things the iPhone did not.  Flash forward to the present and Verizon could care less about the phones and more about control over its customers to achieve the highest profit margin possible.

      • Anonymous

        +1 Sir

      • +1 for 

        “that did things the iPhone did not.  Flash”

      • Blootzm3

        someone who realy understands finally… +1. and if Verison didn’t push droid someone else would and thats where I would have been for it. then the fall of Verizon control would begin. true market understanding. If you wanted michelin tires you dont go to goodyear to get them. but now goodyear sells them due to customer demand. understand that and you’ll understand why droid will do well with or without verizon. its called customer demand. thats also why verizon bent over for iphone. they were loosing too many customers. rudolphe is an idiot not to see that. oh and no verizon logo or bloatware covers iphone. iphones pure genious marketing.

        • Anonymous

          I hate the iPhone, but I agree. Apple did something right with it. They have all the control they want and the carriers don’t care because it makes them money.

  • I don’t think most users of this phone care about any of this.  There is a very small minority that cares about this kind of stuff. 

  • OMJ

    Who cares if it has a logo and a few vzw apps.  Bitching about the lack of Google Wallet is ridiculous since its not on tmobile or att phones either. Sprint is the only major US carrier that allows it on their phones. 

    Google abandoned their original model because it simply didnt work. The sales of the nexus one were awful. If you really think this is the worst nexus device yet then switch to Tmobile and buy a nexus one since it and its sales model were apparently perfect.

    • Anonymous

      Google wallet isnt really ready anyway. It works but not all the time and there have been reports of issues when installing it after loading custom ROMs or factory resets. Not being able to access your account anymore. Anyway, isnt modification and customization one the points of a Nexus though?

      • Anonymous

        I would disagree that it isn’t ready. I use it anywhere I see a Mastercard Paypass terminal – I’ve used it at 2 gas stations and 7-Eleven about an hour ago in fact. works great

        • Nick Bohl

          I just don’t trust it. I’ve read multiple news stories of people in airports walking around with breifcases what have those paypass terminals inside and turned on with a portable power source. They are programmed to always be accepting data, so if you walk by, it swipes your account info. then plug it into a logger, get the data, and go on a shopping spree….. I don’t know if google wallet is more efficient than the cards with this capability, but the risk is not work the reward to me.

          • Anonymous

            you have to enter your PIN into the phone before it transfers the info. it also wont activate google wallet if the screen is off. i agree with you on rfid in cards though.

          • Anonymous

            you create a PIN and every time is activates you have to enter your PIN – and it’s not that sensitive (distance wise) – maybe GWallet terminals will be more sensitive but the PayPass ones aren’t.

          • Anonymous

            Your credit card can be read just as easily as your phone can with these devices, so this point is moot. 

          • Josh Nichols

            You have to be literally five inches away from a paypass terminal for Google Wallet to work.

          • Blootzm3

            +1 nice burn

        • Anonymous

          i used up my $10 with it. once it wouldnt recognize and start up so i had to open wallet manually. i suspect it was my fault from swapping batteries and it had to initialize and authenticate the new nfc chip in the battery. i did edit my post though to clarify the main issue.

    • Anonymous

      I’m thinking the same thing. All the Verizon apps can be disabled. Literally takes 2 minutes tops. The fact that we have a phone with an unlockable bootloader, easy root, and a brand new OS makes this a success in my book. If the Verizon logo bothers you that bad, just get a silver Sharpie and mark it out or get a case. Could things be better? Sure! Could things be worse? You bet your sweet Aunt Bippie! But until Google actually gets it’s own carrier (which would be sweet), they have to play the game. Verizon and Google are big time players and there will be compromises to make. If a logo and a few disable-able apps is it, no biggie to me!

      • Anonymous

        I don’t particularly mind the logo and a few apps, but Google needs to assert more control over the carriers and Android in general. This is one thing that Google needs to take from Apple’s book.

        • Anonymous

          Which most people neglect to realize is…they can’t.  Android is open source.  If they want to play nice, then they can’t assert anything OR Verizon/Samsung/HTC will just take the code and FORGET Google on any Android device they sell.

          • Google Apps. That is all.

          • Anonymous

            There are alternatives.

          • Anonymous

            And the alternatives to the Android Market kind of suck in comparison. The Market has 40x the amount of apps as the Amazon Appstore.

          • And the Appstore apps are beyond horrible.

          • Anonymous

            You’re right that they can’t control what carriers/manufacturers do with AOSP Android, but Google can control what is done with the closed source Google Apps such as the Android Market and Gmail.

          • Anonymous

            Yes but as well all know is that a Android phone isn’t useful without the Android Marketplace.

          • Anonymous

            Of course it’s not very useful without the Android Market. That’s what the Market is a useful tool to help Google control Android.

          • Anonymous

            It will cause some PR nightmare, I can see. The moment that happens, you will see the likes of John Gruber and MG Siegler jump for joy and proclaim, “THE OPEN ANDROID IS DEAD!”

            And losing the “open” tag, however much tweet Andy Rubin does, will definitely deal a devastating blow on Android.

          • Blootzm3

            wrong… apple did it, why cant google. and if its no biggie tell verizon to romove verizon logo and control.

          • Anonymous

            Apple could achieve it because ONLY they are making the whole ball of wax.  Google COULD do that too and remain open but because it IS open, there would ALWAYS be other devices so the base “fragmentation” argument would still be around.

            The only people who think Android fragmentation really matters are people who don’t understand to begin with.  Most developers I know don’t think fragmentation is all that big of deal. 

          • Tony Perez

            Most developers I know don’t think fragmentation is all that big of deal.”
            Especially since, even in the iOS world, there are apps that won’t work on all versions of the iPhone. Nature of the industry. There are still likely millions of analog TVs being used around the world and in many areas, they won’t work without a digital converter. Is that fragmentation? Maybe but it’s also evolution…

          • Tony Perez

            I wonder if there is an agreement between Google and carriers to limit their right to issue a “vanilla” version of Android for handsets after they are released with the version with manufacturer overlays and bloatware. Wouldn’t it be great to have the freedom to take your new handset, go to a Google website and download a compatible version of Android and not have to worry about your warranty being terminated? (It’s nice to dream…)

      • Tony Perez

        Good points! By the way, I don’t mind having a Verizon logo on my handset because if I ever misplace it, at least anyone who picks it up (and is very honest) can call VZW or take it to a Verizon store and drop it off so they can call me to get my handset..

    • Don West

      I think this is less about how easy or quickly you can disable a Verizon app and more of a slippery slope type of argument.

      • Blootzm3

        +1 OMJ is an idiot. he doesnt get the piont.

        • Rodd

          point is it appears Verizon is trying to make the Nexus just another Android phone.  this time its branding & google wallet but whats next – sense/blur type skins & v-cast apps??

      • Pretty much.

      • Tony Perez

        True. Especially if you have Android 4.0 or higher. For those who stress out about bloatware, you can go into Settings/Apps then the All tab. There, you can find bloatware and disable many of the apps you will never use. What you disable is up to you (make sure you don’t disable system apps). While bloatware is still not removable from a stock device, at least disabling it will remove it from memory and speed up the performance of your handset! Good luck!

    • Anonymous

      People need to relax…It’s a phone, not something to form a cult over.

      It’s a really nice phone, with the latest Android software, and very little bloat that can easily be dealt with…why is there complaining?  Is Google complaining?  It’s their OS and their name (Nexus).  I seriously doubt that Google believes they are being pushed around by Verizon.  It’s a partnership that is making both companies boatloads of money.

      Just relax and enjoy your phones.

    • I care if i have to stare at a verizon logo and look at verizon apps. This isnt nascar.

      • OMJ

        why are you staring at the back of your phone anyway? I generally look at the screen of my phone instead of the back.

        • Blootzm3

          you still dont get the point idiot. the logo is on their for a reason. promoting verizon. kinda like getting paid to have a name on a race car same thing. you work for verizon without your knowledge. and I wont be surprized if you realy do work for them. only idiots wont care. thats how control starts. it will only make the nexus worse. and if you dont care, buy a Motorola turns out their in bed with verizon, you would deff get along with them too. and all the bloat ware.

          • You’ve picked a strange hill to fight and die on….

          • Binglut9

            what about reebok? Nike? American eagle? Every business promotes themselves on everything clothes, shoes etc….but i dont hear you complaining about them get a lige

          • Anonymous

            lige’s are like my favorite mythical animal.

          • Dr. Droid

            Blootzm3 is right, having Verizon on the back is you promoting them.  Such as when you buy a car they have the dumb license plate cover that has the dealers name on it, as well as the sticker on there which most people leave on.  They are using us for self promotion, why not pay for free marketing.

          • Tony Perez

            True, While I don’t mind the manufacturer logo or name on my car, it irritates me when I see a dealership who pops one of their stick on dealer name plates or license plate covers. At least the cover I can toss out. The sticker name plates are messy so I just avoid those dealers.

            We should also realize the carrier logo placement is indeed a form of marketing for the carrier and the result to us is a handset that might cost more if it had nothing on it because the carrier has to spend on more expensive forms of marketing.

          • Tony Perez

            There are people who spend tens of thousands of dollars on their cars and don’t complain about logos and the name of the manufacturer. We spend a few hundred on a mobile handset and some of us are whining about a VZW logo?! It’s called branding for a reason. Right now VZW has the largest and (overall) fastest 4G/LTE network in the United States. It’s also not the cheapest. I’m OK with people knowing I can afford to use their superior wireless services….event if they don’t know what the heck I’m using (if not an iPhone). By the way, I have an HTC Rezound.

      • NotRelevent.

        I’ve not looked a single Verizon app or logo on my nexus since I got. So it’s quite apparent that you don’t have to, and just trying to be a stupid troll.

    • Tim242

      I was going to say the exact same thing. Well said! +1!
      People invent ideas of what Nexus means.

    • Anonymous

      A Nexus device has little to nothing to do with sales! Why would anyone think a Nexus is meant to sell as much as they can, it’s not supposed to be a business model, it’s supposed to be a game changer! The Nexus shows all other consumers/OEMs/carriers etc. what Google’s Android can do!

      That’s it, make an awesome device, not something to greedily sell to as many people as they can…how dare you insult my trusty ol’ Nexus One…

      • Blootzm3


      • Anonymous

        Well said….fez gets it & hes from another country, why cant other people?

      • Anonymous

        While I agree with you that a Nexus should be a game changing device and not focused on sales, it seems that is what a Nexus is becoming. I am starting to think Google is getting wrapped up in competing and the numbers game. I dunno, maybe we just don’t know what they are planning. Maybe Nexus is changing and will never represent what it originally set out to represent. I hope I am wrong.

        • Tony Perez

          There was a time when Android needed manufacturer “skins” to enhance the functionality of Android. Google apparently has introduced developer talent into the mix and recent released of stock Android are elegant, attractive, and highly functional. If not for Nexus handsets, we might not know this. I believe Nexus handsets serve many purposes:
          – A tool for developers (Although any handset you can root can prodvide this)
          – A way for the non-technical consumer to see how good stock Android can be
          – A way for Google to give everyone another way to compare Android handsets to iPhones.
          – I way for purists to get their Android OS updates sooner (although recently that’s becoming less realistic).

          We can only guess what Google execs are planning for the near future. I would be shocked if they don’t take advantage of their ownership of Motorola Mobility to generate the first MotoNexus handset. I don’t know the numbers but I can’t imagine that HTC and Samsung have generated huge profits from the sale of Nexus handsets. Perhaps having Motorola Mobility manufacture a Nexus handset can relieve other manufacturers from this product line so they can focus on building high-quality handsets and their OS overlays. On that note, the better stock Android gets, I hope that manufacturers will design overlays that take less storage space and memory. Focus on your hardware and we’ll all be better off. What do you guys think?

    • Genius

      Did you read the entire article? If so I think you missed the point. Personally I couldn’t agree more with it, hopefully this isn’t the start of big red destroying the principal concept of the Nexus idea. 

      • Blootzm3

        verizons evil spreads and its affecting googles android product.

    • Alexander Garcia

      you’ve clearly missed the point and the principle of Kel’s rant.

    • I never said that the Nexus One or the original sales model was perfect. They had issues, which they recognized and tried to fix in the wrong way. Google can do better than this.

    • DO YOU NOT GET THE POINT?! Google has been RAPED in the ass by Verizon and what comes out is this Galaxy Nexus with crapware. Google is losing control and pissing off a lot of people.

    • not really bitching.. i think the “Nexus” device should just provide the “pure Google experience” without any carrier imprint on it. that verizon logo on the back is just… not cool. i just think everything went against the idea of Nexus with the Vexus. so i have the GSM Galaxy Nexus. i love it.

  • gadgetryan

    Verizon needs Android!! hell ya!! if not…i will have to move on to another carrier. What else am I gonna use? Blackberry? iphone?  I dont think so..especially coming from an LTE Device!! 

  • EC8CH

    “which has led to the worst Nexus we’ve seen yet”

    I see what you’re getting at, but in many ways this is the best nexus we’ve seen yet.

    Verizon will cave and allow Google Wallet, and the bloat that was added is understandable to a degree. So long as Google is in charge of the software updates on the G-Nex, the other concession they’ve made are acceptable to me.

    I agree though that the US wireless model of selling subsidized phones is messed up leaving too much power in the hands of the carriers which only hurts progress and consumer choice.

    • They aren’t, though. Google sends the software to Verizon, who actually makes and issues the software updates.

      • Anonymous

        Untrue. The mysid builds(vzlte) update directly from google. The souruce code for mysid and yakju updates are actually dumped into AOSP. I’d say thats good proof.

        • Anonymous

          (I’m not disagreeing)

          But if that’s true why haven’t we gotten 4.0.3 yet??

          • Just because they are in AOSP doesn’t mean that Google is the one with the final say on the official firmware updates. As a Verizon branded phone (as opposed to a Google-branded one), Verizon has the final say. Just like Sprint does for the Nexus S 4G.

          • Anonymous

            Ah, I figured as much. I want 4.0.3!!! Thanks

          • Josh Nichols

            Please.. just stop.

          • Anonymous

            Aside from what Conan Kudo has said, the other phones with 4.0.3 don’t have new radios in their builds.  The radios are what need to be tested by Verizon before they can just push the update.

          • QtDL

            Anyone know when this update is supposed to be rolling out to us?

          • Anonymous

            There’s no official timeline yet, but the thought is the middle of January.

          • Blootzm3

            just ask verizon, they have control.

          • Anonymous

            That’s the thing. There is only one phone with 4.0.3 and it’s the Nexus S, and it’s not even all of them. They halted the update. Would anyone like to blame the VZW battery cover on the rest of the world not getting 4.0.3 too?

          • Anonymous

            I have 4.0.3 on my VZW Galaxy Nexus from a rom.

          • Anonymous

            not sure really. the only phone that did get 4.0.3 ota was the nexus s and they halted the rollout on that update(not sure if it was restarted). Even yakju hasnt recieved it. The reason cuatom ROMs are running it and have new radios is because it was all dumped into AOSP by google.

      • Anonymous

        Is that true? Can we readers get confirmation on that? I personally don’t care too much either way, I’ll prob dive into a custom ROM soon enough anyway.

        But I still want to know how involved Verizon is with updates

        • Josh Nichols

          Google does updates for mysid and yakju devices.

          With probably an exception on radio updates.

  • Anonymous

    Seeing that T-Mobile is open to a sale, I think Google should make a bid.  Then they can release the phones they want, with Moto hardware, on their own network.  Then the other networks can conform or lose andriod

    • Anonymous

      That would be nice, but if you thought folks (namely the Gov’t) thought Google is a monopoly now can you imagine what they would think of them if they bid for a carrier?

      • It’s also illegal in the U.S. for a single company to own a phone maker and the network it runs on, thanks to various lawsuits by the DoJ against AT&T Corp over the course of the 50s through the 80s.

        • Bigbn73

          Nextel was owned partially by Moto and that was well after the 80s.

        • Kidheated

          That is great in all, but the golden rule still applies. This should be evident in our modern judicial system. There’s a loophole/way around for everything… that’s how lawyers make their living. I’m not putting anyone down, I’m just saying… it’s one of those death and taxes things.

        • Anonymous

          If they owned the carrier and the manufacturer would it still be a problem if they made a phone that could run on ANY carrier?

          • Yes. The problem lies in the fact that the U.S. market is overly dependent on the carriers for our equipment because of decades of proprietary entanglements (AMPS, D-AMPS, cdmaOne, CDMA2000, etc.). We don’t even use the latest version of the CDMA2000 standard that encourages network interoperability and device portability. We still use the original draft version that didn’t have those aspects in the standard.

            As far as acquiring T-Mobile USA is concerned, the problem would be that Google would be highly tempted to flood T-Mobile’s lineup with only their devices instead of encouraging an open market approach. However, Google can hold a minority stake in T-Mobile USA if Deutsche Telekom permitted them to. As it is right now, T-Mobile USA is 100% owned by Deutsche Telekom. If Deutsche Telekom decided to spin off its U.S. division and put up an IPO for it, then Google could purchase shares in T-Mobile USA up to 35%. Any more would potentially be a cause for concern for U.S. regulators.

      • Kidheated

        That is true and all, but flip it on its ear. apple’s original intent with the first *phone was to be their own carrier. And I’m sure they haven’t dropped that idea and are just lying in wait. Everything they are doing seems to be leading up to this end, albeit sometime way down the line. People see Google as being this multinational monster and slam everything they do, but not the same for apple. apple’s appetite for expansion is just as great as Google’s, if not more so. apple for some reason has this “we do no wrong” gleaming white image, but Google has a shadow cast on it. I bet if you could stand far enough back to see the shadow image, it would be in the shape of a fruit.

    • Anonymous

      It’s a great idea in theory, but it’s also an idea that gives antitrust regulators a hard on. They would have an absolute heyday if Google made an attempt to buy T-Mobile. Google could maybe do it, but they would have to agree that all devices sold wouldn’t be Android devices and certainly not all Motorola devices. They could possibly even be restricted from offering Google services on each individual phone even though other carriers clearly do (think Verizon and V-Cast and VZ Navigator). There would be so many restrictions on the deal if it was even approved that there’s no point. Plus, it would majorly upset the relationship with the remaining carriers. Why would Verizon, Sprint, or AT&T want to offer Android phones and give money to a rival carrier?

  • Anonymous

    Google isn’t challenging the carriers because all they want is 10 billion people using android phones – which leads to more revenue. It doesn’t matter to them how effected or “different” the phones are – as long as people are using Google’s back end services.

    They can’t bully carriers because they don’t own the supply chain, quite like Apple does. And frankly they need Verizon – they want more users.

  • Lam Nguyen

    Wow this post was well thought out and have been in the closet for a long time. And I agree with it 99%! The only thing I didn’t see “eye to eye” with was that the Nexus should be on all the other carriers. Well hell no! Verizon has been without a Nexus for almost 2 years, if anything, Verizon should be the ONLY carrier with a Nexus now.

    • Anonymous

      Disagree on your disagreement. I think you should be able to buy any phone you want and use it on any carrier you choose. Carrier exclusivity should be done away with.

  • Act of God

    Nice writeup Ron!

  • Good piece can’t agree enough

    • Kidheated

      I concur also. The Googes needs to pick up its balls and lay down some rules. Right now they are like a king that only listens to his advisers and makes no decisions of his own. apple is the exact opposite. apple basically does what it wants… why can’t Google follow suit? They can do the same, but just don’t have to be a dick about it, like apple. Whenever apple/Google is mentioned, they are mentioned, together, within a breathe of one another. If Google doesn’t rev it up, they will be overtaken. I mean, seriously, apple’s mission statement is to, according to the late Jobs, “Destroy  (Google) Android.” It seems like Google’s response to all this is, (shoulder shrug) “Meh.” I can understand “Secret Weapons” in development, but come’on! At least let your loyal populace know that you will not take fruity threats lying down.
      P.S. Though not huge at the moment, Windows Phone is also a viable threat. Not to take over a competitor, but to steal enough of a market share to be a nuisance, eventually… not to mention the patent trolling.

      • apple probably has a patent for demanding what you want. 

  • Erkleehoo

    Can I get an amen!

    • Witness In The Congregation

      AMENAAAAAAAAAAAA! Now put a dollar in the boxaaa!

  • Anonymous