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Qualcomm’s Krait Dual-core MSM8960 Processor Sampled Ahead of Schedule, Could See Device Time This Year?

Our buddy Taylor from Android and Me was poking around in a Q3 discussion that the CEO of Qualcomm had some time in the last few days and noticed a couple of key points that were made about their next generation dual-core Krait processor.  Apparently, they have pushed up production to have these chipsets out to sampling far ahead of time which means we could see them in devices by the end of the year.  In fact, their CEO said specifically, “Our first 28-nanometer device will really go commercial at the end of this calendar year.”

For those not familiar with Krait (MSM8960), we’ll do our best to try to explain it.  The MSM8960 is Qualcomm’s next dual-core processor that can potentially reduce power consumption by up to 75%.  Think about that stat for a second…yeah, I’m ready for one too.  This processor may also be more efficient or at least perform better than the NVIDIA’s Kal-el quad-core, but I’m not a big enough hardware guru to confirm that stance.

The point though, is that the MSM8960 will likely make even the HTC EVO 3D and Sensation (which sport Qualcomm’s newest dual-core chips) look like chumps, and they were both released within the last month.  So we could have devices sporting Krait, Kal-el and the new OMAP4470 processors all by the end of the year.  If that doesn’t get you feeling a little saucy this morning, then I don’t know what will.

Via:  Android and Me

  • Anonymous

    yeah, i hate to say it but in all reality we will not see these in a handset until next summer at best…

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  • Maybe it will benchmark on par with Tegra 2, maybe…

  • yeah same here i would but that anyday.

  • Jason Lee

    If I’m not mistaken, but doesn’t the MSM8960 also have the LTE radio integrated into the SoC. Finally we’ll see really good battery life with LTE!

  • WormDoes

    This makes me realize every phone I buy from here on out with have to be off contract. This technology is improving far too quickly for 2 year contracts

  • WormDoes

    This makes me realize every phone I buy from here on out with have to be off contract. This technology is improving far too quickly for 2 year contracts

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know… I like how Nvidia is taking over the processors. might not be the fastest, but it adds unification like the i*hone.  Everything is optimized for tegra 2, and the same for Kal-el. I would really like that to happen.

    • Anonymous

      I hope they do that too, so there’s less motivation for them to innovate. Competition is always bad…..

      *heavy sarcasm

      • Anonymous

        Touche. Still would be nice… Double edged sword…

        • Anonymous

          Yeah I know what you’re saying but I think it lies more int he hands of the manufacturers(chip or device) to make sure it works. They just need to stop churning it out without a plan.

          • Anonymous

            The thing that really pisses me off is the fact that it has soooooo many

  • Anonymous

    TI announced a new top player in their OMAP 4 processor lineup.
    In case you missed it the BlackBerry PlayBook runs a TI OMAP 4 processor at 1Ghz called
    the 4430. There is a 4440 which runs at 1.5Ghz but RIM did not go
    for that one. On the other hand this new 1.8Ghz OMAP 4470 could almost double
    the processing power for the BlackBerry PlayBook in future larger 10 inch
    designs with larger batteries.

    TI touts that this new 4470 processor offers:

    Customers designing ultrathin laptops, tablets or smartphones around
    previously released OMAP 4 processors
    (OMAP4430 and OMAP4460 processors) gain the
    added benefit of pin-to-pin hardware and software compatibility for maximum
    re-use and faster time-to-market. 

    The new 4470 processor bumps up performance

    Two ARM Cortex-A9 MPCores
    running up to 1.8GHz per core for an 80% increase in Web browsing
    Two ARM Cortex-M3 cores –
    Smart multicore processing optimized for low-power and real-time
    SGX544 graphics core – 2.5x overall
    graphics performance increase; support for DirectX, OpenGL ES 2.0, OpenVG
    1.1, and OpenCL 1.1
    Hardware composition engine
    with dedicated 2D graphics core – Frees GPU to manage intensive tasks;
    maximizes power-efficiency
    Supports as many as three HD displays
    and up to QXGA (2048×1536) resolution; HDMI supporting stereoscopic 3D
    Dual-channel, 466 MHz LPDDR2
    memory – Higher memory bandwidth enables rendering and compositing of
    multilayer content at high resolutions
    Complete pin-to-pin hardware
    and software compatibility – Rapid transition and maximum re-use of
    investment from OMAP4430 and OMAP4460 processors

    • Anonymous

      cool story bro

  • Saucy!!!

  • lotto

    Fyi nothing happens as timed and as planned in the adroid world. So don’t get your hopes up

    • JD


  • DJW

    Up to 75% less power consumed.  That should cut out a lot of battery complaints smartphone users have with these new 4G phones.  Will phones actually get to market with this processors this fall?

    • The problem isn’t so much the processor as it is the screen. The display being on takes the most battery. Not to mention the radios.

      • Anonymous

        they SHOULD be working on the batteries themselves….

        • Exactly.  All this power means nothing without a real battery to power it.  Where is the battery innovation at?  We’ve been using the same type of batteries for years now.

    • Up to means that is as great as you get though, you can save up to 20% by switching to geico but hardly anyone ever does. Remember 0 is less than 75% and so they could just be making things sound better. But I would not mind tech like this

  • Anonymous

    So glad I got my T-Bolt when I did. Now I can upgrade just shy of a year later without the qualms associated with buying two expensive phones merely three months apart.

    • same thing here thats why i got it instead of waiting for bionic then a way better phone comes out like 3 months later


    Android is really annoying it just needs to die already. Screw Dual Core.

    • If you do not like android then why are you even here?


  • Anonymous

    End of the year? Bahaha, riiiiiight. 

  • Anonymous

    Man, makes me more hopeful of Android and Me recent Nexus rumors about HTC making the next Nexus sporting this processor.

    • Anonymous

      I’d prefer an AMOLED screen. Maybe Samsung has enough stock this time to supply those screens like with the OG DInc.

  • Anonymous

    I am all for better, faster, Moore’s law tech…but aren’t we coming close to the point of not seeing the results or where it really matters? How much power do you REALLY need in a 4in screen?? I do a hell of a lot with my phone and even I can’t imagine why I’d need 4 cores in it… Tablets may be a different story. 

    • Anonymous

      Which is why Qualcomm is consitrating on power efficient dual core Processors rather than Quad core like Nvida which is just going to be a bragging right.

      • Anonymous

        If Qualcomm can produce a dual-core that lasts a day and a half on a single charge, I’ll buy it any day over a quad-core that lasts 6 hours.

        • Anonymous

          Quad core would use less power. More cores = less CPU speed per core to achieve the same levels of parallel processing. Less frequency (clock cycles) per core = less power required per core.

          The only problem I have with Tegra is the lack of media support that ARM has. Otherwise NVIDIA’s chips do just fine.

          • Anonymous

            In ideal situations it’s possible, but in actuality not everything will be optimized for quad-core processing. Also, if I can remember correctly, since Nvidia is pushing to get Kal-El out this year so they can be the first quad-core on the market, they had to make it 40nm when it releases this year, and it won’t be downsized to 28nm until sometime in the middle of next year, so it won’t be as power efficient compared to a 28nm chip. Still this is all just on paper, we won’t really know until we have working devices and we can test it ourselves.

    • FortitudineVincimus

      The REAL benefit here is not only power/speed, but LACK of power (and thus battery) usage… that is the real thing to notice

      • Anonymous

        Exactly, the big thing here as that it has ridiculous amounts of power, but it uses less power.  So we’re not only getting to the point where our phones are beasts, but we’re getting to a point where they can still be beasts and not run through a battery in 2 hours.

        • Anonymous

          I hope so, since the launch of DROID we’ve heard this line before (better battery life is coming because of ….), and yet they keep robbing Peter to pay Paul and pointing fingers elsewhere and negating any CPU power improvements. Wellllll, LTE is a hog, bigger screen is a hog, too many widgets is a hog, too many media rich apps are a hog, more cores are a hog, and yet for all the ‘power saving’ improvements battery life is still trending down. Heck a 4 year old Blackberry or Nokia can last a day longer than almost all phones released in the last 3 months.

          Point is, I’ll believe it when i see it.

        • Anonymous

          The problem with battery usage heavily revolves around the radio. If for instance you were to turn on Airplane mode, your phones on CM7 would last an easy 24+ hours. It’s that damn radio technology that guzzles all this power.

  • Waiting for this Bionic has killed all thoughts of me having nice new hardware this year

    • That’s why I bought a Tbolt when it came out. I knew this whole “wait for the next big thing” was a waste of time. Just get the Bionic when it comes out and don’t worry about the next big thing. You’ll get the next next big thing (or next next next big thing), so don’t worry so much.

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