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Rumor: U.S. Carriers Dragging on Negotiations with Samsung Over Galaxy S2

File this one away as a giant rumor, but according to Korean insider Chosun Ilbo, the Samsung Galaxy S II hasn’t made it to the U.S. yet because negotiations with carriers have “dragged” on longer than expected. They also speculate that part of the delay is because carriers like Verizon and AT&T tend to favor products made by Motorola and HTC, who apparently know how to make products that work “best with the American mobile protocol CDMA.”  Wait what?  Ok, this is where we start to cut this rumor off, because not every carrier in the U.S. is CDMA (Hello AT&T and T-Mobile?).

As you all know by now though, the Galaxy S II is a beast (our hands-on) and has sold in the millions in just a couple of months, even without being available in the U.S.  It’s specs basically crush any other phone at this time and has quickly become one of the most talked about and anticipated phones on this site.   However, there is definitely something that has been holding it back from landing on our shores, and one could argue that it has something to do with carriers wanting to differentiate the product much like they did with the original Galaxy S phone.  Remember, each carrier had its own special version of the Galaxy S, so we wouldn’t doubt it if U.S. carriers were trying to push for a similar deal again this year.

With each sporting different “4G” networks, we wouldn’t doubt it if the need for radio swapping of some sort has made its way into these “negotiations.”  After all, why would Samsung or these carriers want to release such an impressive phone that would only run on old data connections?  Well, I guess that argument doesn’t fit with AT&T since the phone is already primed for their HSPA+ network.

It’s a frustrating situation knowing that a big piece of the rest of the world has had access to the phone for some two and a half months while we all sit here waiting impatiently.  I just hope they figure something out in the next couple of weeks, because the DROID Bionic will be here in August and that other really popular phone maker has something planned for September.  Samsung easily could have stolen half of the summer had they made the SGS2 available in July, but there are no signs of that happening.

Oh, and to add a little shine to this story, we thought we’d let you know that our review of the Galaxy S II will be out today!

Via:  ChosunGottaBeMobile

Cheers Matt!

  • Exellent review. It is good imformation to know more. Thanks for share!

  • Ulnek75

    by the time this makes it to the u.s. there will be newer better phones.  they shouldn’t wait too long if they want to bill it as “top of the line” when they do sell it here.

  • Anonymous

    I’ll wager Verizon and AT&T have their lips planted on jobs butt and don’t want to piss off Apple since they are trying to block the GS2 from hitting the US shores.  Clearly Apple is getting scared that this phone WILL out shine the next ipwn.

  • I hope it arrives on Big Red

  • Anonymous

    Seems quite possible that it’s being delayed by the ongoing lawsuit between Apple and Samsung. 

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  • They are correct about CDMA.  Verizon/Sprint is based on CDMA2000.   HSPA+ is based on UMTS which is based on WCDMA as in Wideband CDMA used on GSM networks so technically both uses CDMA except CDMA2000 is pure CDMA while the HSPA+ is basically GSM which came from TDMA and adds CDMA into it.

  • tjhrulz

    Maybe on verizon they will add back the home and search buttons 

  • Anonymous

    I want it. IF it has Lte

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  • People that need google plus invites need to stop hijacking these posts go somewhere else… If I see any emails I will spam so good luck and thanks for being idiots

    • Shaeflan

      No need to be hostile, just trying to spread the love because someone on this forum was nice enough to send one to me last week. I’ll be more considerate in the future and post something in the forum.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe the carriers are worried about committing to a phone that Apple will attempt to block from US shores due to patent infringement issues. Obviously Apple is obsessed with quashing all Samsung phones & tablets.

  • Anonymous

    Can I get a invite please juliancollins09@gmail.com

    • Shaeflan

      done

  • EC8CH

    This is the reason the US model of purchasing subsidized phones through carriers sucks for the consumer.

  • Anonymous

    This kinda sucks.
    But I would rather the Bionic over the Galaxy S2 anyway. 

  • Anonymous

    For a long time I agonized between this and the Bionic to replace my OG Droid, which slows down a little bit more everyday.

    I am reasonably sure I will be getting the Bionic for a few reasons, the main being 4G, I dont want to wait another two years to get a 4G phone, also the SGS2 is rumored to be dubbed down to a Tegra 2 here in the US. Barring disasterous reviews of the Bionic, the SGS2 isnt the phone at the head of the pack for me IMO

    • agree I love my tegra 2 beasst xoom but at the same time the sgs2 with a tegra is not good and I will b looking or the omap in the bionic. The sgs2 is old news now like the article said if they released it mb last month would of been killer but for now it looks like its going to be too late to the party plus they change the processor this phone does not look tempting anymore…oh yeah and its made by samsung still dont trust them for my updates

  • Sboman32

    anyone have a Google + invite to send?

    sboman32@gmail.com

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      • Wuffpack99

        can I get one too? patrickhaikal at gmail.com

  • Gee

    Meh, its a Samsung, their update support has been so awesome

  • Anonymous

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    • Shaeflan

      done

  • Anthony Alves

    An invite would be great. Cvballa3g0@gmail.com         Thank you.

    • Shaeflan

      done

  • I imagine at this point they’ve lot more than a few sales.

  • Mr. Joe

    I bet it’s Apple pulling strings.  Carriers are worried that Apple will go after them for selling the Galaxy S since it’s a copy cat iPhone.

    Despite the fact that the US variants of the original GS looked nothing like the European/Asian model.

  • Alex

    could i get an invite to googe+ alexhicks11@gmail.com.  Going to wait on this new phone, my X will do till then.

    • Shaeflan

      done

  • Shine? More like pure capsaisen in an open wound.

  • Anonymous

    This makes me sad. On a side note: Kellex, can you find a way to sync posts up with G+ like you do with facebook? That would be awesome!

  • Will Frame

    I say “screw the carriers” and buy it unlocked. It’s better that way anyway. No carrier bloatware and no restrictions. I have one and it’s the best phone I have ever owned. We live in a world where we don’t really have to wait for something if we want it bad enough and that’s the Carriers’ loss.

  • Maniko (Meister_Li)

    Maybe the US carriers just don’t like Samsung’s decision to not lock the boot loader of the phone as requested by the community and thus making root and tethering easy on the device. 

  • I’m still riding out the original Droid. I’m not getting the Bionic or an HTC phone. I’ll wait for the Galaxy 2. If they load it with bloat, i’ll root the bastard.

  • “that other really popular phone maker has something planned for September. ”

    …what do I not know? PLEASE tell me HTC is bringing an LTE dual core phone in September.

    • I do believe they are referring to Apple and the iPone.

    • JCS

      The unmentionable one is Apple, Mr. Hoffman…

  • Stelv81

    Off topic but does htc have any other phones coming out on verizon soon? And yea apple is trying to block the sale of the s2.

  • Shaeflan

    Don’t mean to hijack the thread but Google+ invites have popped up again!!!!

    • TomHolmes

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      • Shaeflan

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    • Anonymous

      An invite please would be great.

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    • please add javinnano@gmail.com thanks

      • Shaeflan

        done

        • bleedtoledo@gmail.com

          Is Facebook required for this?? I don’t have Facebook…because I’m a real man. I do have Twitter though..

          • No, but you need a gmail account, sent you a invite!

    • Ant
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    • Chester

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    • Chester

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    • Ben

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    • Greg

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  • Anonymous

    Along with the OEM issues, the “other popular phone make” is set on an ITC complaint that may well derail any plans of the SGS2 ever reaching US shores :o(

  • Rick

    Couple days ago, a SGS2 went through FCC with an Nvidia processor and looks like AT&T/Roger bands.

    • Anonymous

      Pretty sure that was the Galaxy Z or whatever it’s called, not the SGS2.  Those reports were wrong.

      • Rick

        Samsung did say that they will have 2 different version of SGS2. One will have their Exynos processor and the other one will have the Nvidia processor i.e. I9103 w/Super LCD, and I9100 will have their processor.

        They also said that with NFC as well. Later SGS2 units will have NFC support.

        • Rick

          According to phone arena, the I9103 is the Galaxy Z version, which passed FCC on Jul 5th. It will have 5 megapixels rear camera but with no FFC.

          I also saw while digging, there is another Galaxy series phone that is going through FCC called i708, Unfortunately the label on the FCC filings state that it is for development usage and not for sale, and it has WCDMA (850 / 1900) and CDMA/EvDo networks, which would technically mean it can run on both Verizon and AT&T.

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  • Larry Mao

    I bet Apple is squeezing both Verizon and AT&T + T-Mobile to not get the Samsung Galaxy S until well after the iPhone 5 (4S or whatever they call that crappy toy) comes out. Apple is very afraid of high end Android phones because even with a new iPhone on Verizon, they have not been able to stem Android’s growth.

    • Anonymous

      Except that wouldn’t stop Sprint from getting it.

      • Mr. Joe

        It is rumored Sprint is getting an iPhone.  It is confirmed that Apple has ordered Sprint towers on their campus (or whatever it’s called where they test stuff) which was what they did with vzw a year ago. 

        • Anonymous

          Good point.

        • If you want to be exact, Apple has been hiring for a carrier engineer who would conveniently work near Sprint’s campus.  Pretty much a lock, it’s just a question of whether it’s the iPhone 5 or 6 that hits Sprint.

      • Jeff

        Unless they are in negotiations with Apple at this time…

    • S II

      Well, by the time the U.S. gets the S II, the rest of the world will be pre-ordering the S III.

      • Anonymous

        I’m waiting on the nexus prime

    • Oh, please.  Apple is no doubt concerned about the Galaxy S II, but a carrier would cry foul so quickly if Apple pulled a Microsoft and tried to ban other phones in return for an iPhone deal.

      Besides, Sprint CEO Dan Hesse has very publicly said he would like the iPhone on his network, and he’s been using the same language Verizon did to avoid the question.  When he says he’d like to have it in the “right conditions” it can be translated as “we already have an iPhone deal, but we don’t want to lose sales while everyone waits for it, so we’ll be evasive about it.”

      Carriers like Android because it gives them some control, but there’s something they like more: money.  Verizon shipped 2.2 million iPhones in winter where it shipped 260,000 Thunderbolts. Which platform do you think has most of the carrier’s attention right now?

    • tjhrulz

      Let us not forget Samsung has a past with apple, they could have signed one last contract before things went sour saying they had to wait so long before this phone hit the US

    • hell yeah, g s ii is a killer in every aspect, i have been holding out for it since my upgrade date 10/10 last year (OG) cant wait for it… well worth the wait but cmon hurry it up!

  • Missthetrain

    Verizon wants to get rid of as many TB as possible thus forcing the tier data before any other phone launches. The problematic TB doesn’t look to good standing side by side with this one or any other phone coming after tiered. 

    • Of course, but the HTC TB is 4G and has been in my hands since March.  Call it problematic, but it still runs circles around my OG Droid or any iCrap available or planned for this year. 

  • Jeff

    I bet is has more to do with the Apple Law suit than anything else….  I do not think it will stand in court, but it may spook the carriers a little…

  • Rob Meyer

    Plastic with a pretty screen and Tegra 2…. NEXT!!! I mean… Bionic!!!

    • Anonymous

      Mine doesn’t have a Tegra 2. 🙂

      • I remember hearing there might be 2 versions, one with the Exynos and one with Tegra 2.

        • Anonymous

          There are 2 versions.  I know the Galaxy Z which is the slightly dumbed down version has a Tegra 2.

      • Rob Meyer

        I thought yours was a Euro model…and was banking on the FCC reports until you answered that Q above from another commenter… So i’ll retract those statements and stick with plastic! ; )

  • Bryan DeBon

    I want this phone! Hurry up Verizon

  • The best way to guarantee Verizon releases the S II is for me to give in and buy something else.

  • It’ll probably be crippled to hell once Verizon gets their hands on it anyways.

    • You realize Verizon hasn’t crippled any phones in years, right? Locked bootloaders don’t count since EVERY phone comes with a locked bootloader. 

      • Remember the Fascinate?

        • Yeah, slightly reduced ram. Really crippled….

          • Jdevore64

            Bing Go…Oh wait?

  • Anonymous

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      • Anonymous

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  • not fair, i want this phone. everyone stop getting your panties in a bunch and release it NOW!

  • Rangertrav

    This I why I think I have to go Bionic. I’ve been eligible for upgrade for several months and my OG Droid is getting old in the tooth. 

    • Jeff

      I hear you….  I have been waiting for a phone “significantly” better than the OG Droid….  The Thunderbolt was very tempting, but I resisted…  ( Step father and sister got one) I will get the Bionic if it has an unlocked bootloader, otherwise, I’ll nurse the Droid a little longer…..

  • Xpsu06

    why dont you kids grow up!! dontcha want our money? then keep us happy!!

  • Sounds like the original Galaxy S fiasco all over again.  Wasn’t that one of the major issues holding back its US debut, carriers forcing Samsung to differentiate models for each carrier?

  • Any chance that the tiff between Apple and Samsung has something to do with it?  Verizon and AT&T wouldn’t want to jeopardize their i*hones.  😉

  • Daniel Archibald33

    Crappy ass phones anyway!!

  • droiddoesyourmom

    no shit they are dragging on negotiations

    • the problem is that the carriers already have their summer lineup and apple will molest the carriers if they dare go near the new iphone’s september release