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HTC Thunderbolt Ads Removed from YouTube, New $699 Price, and Delays Now Due to Short Battery Life?

Another wonderful weekend for the HTC Thunderbolt, eh?  Let’s see if we can sort of summarize everything that just happened in a couple of quick paragraphs since writing about it has become more of a chore than anything.  After all, this device is quickly becoming the world’s most controversial when it was originally supposed to be a world’s first.  

So let’s start with the rumors coming out of the Engadget news room which claim that battery issues are to blame for all of these delays.  Apparently, testers are seeing 3 to 4 hours of battery life with the LTE radio turned on and so far no fixes have been successful.  There is supposed to be a firmware update coming in the near future and it will address these issues, but who knows how long it’ll take to test it and then make it available to end users.  This story actually makes a little bit of sense, especially when we look back and see that four different HTC RUU’s for the device have leaked out since December.

The second bit of news has to do with the TBolt ads which have been live on Verizon’s YouTube channel for almost a week now.  All of them are now set to private and can no longer be viewed in any capacity including the rooftop spot.  We thought that all issues with the device had been figured out once they had 2 different ads running on TV, but now that both have been pulled, it’s hard to believe the device is going to be here any time soon.

And the last bit of news is pretty random, but actually comes off as positive if it ends up sticking.  We had a few tipsters submit the picture you’ll see below which is of a shopping cart on HTC’s site with the Thunderbolt inside of it.  The $699 price is the real story here, especially after seeing $749 from Best Buy over and over again and actually almost had us cracking a miniature smile.

Some day we’ll have good news abouts this phone, but it doesn’t sound like it will be this week.

Cheers Louis, Mike, Cameron, asdf and all others!

  • Dizzoriented

    does this support youtube? 

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  • Gunn_tony

    Seriously…..its a freaking phone. do we really need to get all of our panties in a wad over this? i want the t’bolt, but can wait for it. there are always setbacks and things that make us have delays in life. its really not a big deal…

  • Anonymous

    I think the phone needing 2 radios to opperate at the same time for voice and data will turn out to be the problem here. When the fully baked LTE phones ship that do simultaneous voice/data on LTE and only need to switch between the radios for coverage reasons then these issues won’t be as severe. I’m not knocking HTC, as I’m sure their next “full” LTE phone will also not have these problems. Again, IMO.

  • Michael

    Such a common problem for majority of Android phones!

  • iLte

    This is just incomprehensible – why is so difficult for vzw to release a bunch of LTE phones, like all other carries have already did (4G) , with reasonable (149$ 199$) contract prices? is it all because of the iphone? They announced their LTE network months ago, yet there are no phones.

    • Anonymous

      In Verizon’s defence, only Metro PCS is running 4G, all the rest are HSPA+ which not really a new or different technology. This has nothing to do with the iphone.

  • Starhelius17

    What is this, like the Charlie Sheen of Droid-Life, where I can hardly get any other news about the Droid world because the site is bogged down with the wacky antics of this device?! Geez, I wish this thing would just spontaneously combust or something so we can move on to something else.

    Oh, on a side note, this is exactly why Apple has its dominance–organization, and repetition. People like repetition. When they release a tablet, not only are they first to do so (making all else who follow, no matter how good, look like an imitator), but there isn’t any of all this drama–no goofs, no slips, no bugs, etc. (and it ony happened once with their phone, and I’m certain someone within Apple was slain for that one).

    Why is it that when it’s time for an Android tablet, there are a million things wrong with it?! It’s so flippin’ frustrating, because I DESPISE Apple’s marketing and business model, and how many millions blindly subscribe to it, but how does Google ever expect themselves to be taken seriously when they appear to the casual onlooker as, for all intents and purposes, bumbling jack*sses?!

  • Gfunk

    That’s what they make extended life batteries for.

  • Monique

    although the battery issue may be just a rumor, it really shouldn’t surprise anyone. I mean, I had a Droid Inc and the battery life was pretty terrible. The Evo is also known to suffer from battery issues especially when using WiMax. It just seems to me that HTC doesn’t make phones with good battery life although they make really good phones (I love Sense)… And I’m sure LTE, a new technology, is adding to their battery issues. I really don’t see why people are getting so upset over this. It’s just a phone! Besides that, VZW has never officiallly said anything about a release date period. I don’t care what Best Buy has said nor do I care that BB is a retailer for VZW. It doesn’t matter. VZW is the official retailer for this phone. everyone else, is just a 3rd party retailer.

  • Angelc0719

    HTC SUCKS!!! lol

  • Beka27

    Low battery life, huh? Well, in the TB’s defense… it takes A LOT of power for those lightning bolts and large claps of thunder… ***FLASH!!!*** ***Ka-BOOOOOOM!!!*** 5 minutes later: “powering down…” LOL. But seriously, I hope they get this issue figured out soon.

  • Unimpressed

    what else is new? overpriced, has HTC’s trademark poor battery life and isn’t even dual core. i pity the schmuck who pays $700 for this slightly larger Incredible.

  • Whaaaaa

    if this crap HTC is pulling delays the DROID bionic from making its appearance i am going to be pi$$ed…

    • Tim242

      This “crap” is not the doing of HTC. They shipped that phone weeks ago. You can thank APPLE for this.

  • Aaa

    My enV2 just broke so I would really like this phone. It is the best that Verizon has to offer at the moment. Well, if it gets released anyway.

  • Anonymous

    You know, I think I’ve stated this before on DL with other phones coming out half A$$. Manufactories are in such a rush to get thier devices out that bugs, serious malfuctions or whatever elase has the consumer on hold. The Xoom is another device that has consumers sending in thier tablets to get an upgrade. WHY??? Why can’t manufactorures get it right the first time or just test the device before pushing out inconvience!!!
    I agree with those that say “Don’t say it’s ready till it’s ready” What an embarrassment for Verizon and HTC,
    and most of all US the supporters of Android and the consumers that have to put up with this mess.

    • Tim242

      1. This phone was in development for 8 months. I wouldn’t call this rushed. 2. The battery issue is just a rumor.

      • Anonymous

        Well first 8 months is nothing when it comes to hardware and software
        development, try talking about just the software and then going thruough an
        Agile development project 1 to 2 years depending on sprint and thats if the
        regression testing is acceptable and if the bugs are not that bugs. But
        yeah 8 months to test a phone plus all of the software and hardware, c’mon
        maybe like you said it’s just a rumore but there have been other phones
        release with software updates due to getting the phone out in a rush to meet
        deployment times.

        Answer me this, what happened with the Xoom?? Why couldn’t Moto just wait
        for the product to be complete before shipping out the tablets only to have
        consumers to send it back in for an upgrade?? Thats product management,
        that’s pusing out product before it’s even ready!! Moto couldn’t go back
        and say hey we need more time, because CES was right around the corner and
        Moto had to get thie Xoom outatleast by Q2. Software projects run the same
        way trust me I work in the field 🙂

        • JG

          Thanks Professor Software Engineer

      • Anonymous

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  • Lhj4500

    I think it will actually happen April 1st since they are all playing us as fools………….

  • Anonymous

    Wow, this is pretty funny. A lot of people think that Verizon gives a damn enough about iPhone sales that they’d purposely make up an internal lie about why the Thunderbolt is delayed, and have it be leaked. You’ve got to be kidding me. They don’t care THAT much, and if they do, and this whole theory is real, HTC is probably REALLY pissed off.

    • iDroiduDroid

      It’s called fanboy blindness. Makes them see things that aren’t there. I’m passing the Thunderbolt and waiting for the Bionic myself.

      • Tim242

        Dual core is hype. So, you want it just to brag. Who is the blind fanboy?

        • iDroiduDroid

          Still you. My upgrade is up in August. Did I say anything about dual-core? I actually prefer Motorola.

          • Tim242

            All the more reason you are a blind fanboy. You dismiss on just brand. Thanks for clearing that up.

          • iDroiduDroid

            No, I made a decision to try to support companies in my country. It’s sacrifice, I know, but that’s my decision. Call me a fanboy of America but don’t call me a fanboy of phones.

          • Tim242

            And where do you think Motorola phones are manufactured? Not in the US!

          • iDroiduDroid

            Still an American company. I know pretty much all electronics are built overseas but Motorola is based in the US. Like I said, I try to support my country’s companies and buying from Motorola is closer to that goal than buying from HTC.

          • Tim242

            HTC has a significant presense in the US. They are about to open a huge new operation in North Carolina. They support the US economy as much, if not more than Moto.

          • iDroiduDroid

            Here are some quick WikiPedia articles:

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Corporation

            Spoiler alert: Motorola provides more than just phones to the US.

            I’ll give you HTC’s North Carolina research office. It’ll provide some jobs. Anyway, I’ll support my companies and you’ll support yours.

          • OHHHSNAPPP!!!

            Tim242, u got served an asswhippin of facts! I like people that know their facts.

          • JG

            do you drive a ford, drink budwiser, and cry everrytime the National Anthem comes on too?

            …God Bless America…

        • Unimpressed

          how many cores does your computer you are posting from have? how many will all future phones have? to say 1 core is just as good as 2 is absurd.

        • GG

          Dual-Core is hype.. I agree! I love how all these ‘self-proclaimed’ expert consumers assume that this is better. What.. so, instead of 3-hour battery life from the HTC Thunderbolt, you can brag about getting 1-HOUR of battery life from a Dual-Core phone?? LOL Yay!

    • Tim242

      In case you missed it, this is just a rumor. So, for you to state it as fact is silly.

    • Tim242

      In case you missed it, this is just a rumor. So, for you to state it as fact is silly.

      • DaveMI

        The iPhone rumor has only been said by people (you) in comments and not buy any news or tech blog with real sources. Where as the high price and battery life issues were.

        • Tim242

          As we know, if it’s a rumor in blogs, it must be true. Speculation is speculation whether it be in blogs, or in the comments. Three Verizon store managers told me it is iphone related. That sounds more convincing than them just discovering a battery issue at release time, 8 months after the phone was developed. Believe what makes sense to you, I’ll do the same.

          • Guest

            lol if it’s a rumor in blog comments it must be true? oh man

  • Anonymous

    I don’t understand the hype for this phone. Only reason I can think of is that it is an HTC phone based off the Desire HD meaning it should be easy to root and doesn’t have any locked bootloader nonsense. Other than that just seems like a standard phone. I for one would like more info on the DROID BIONIC.

    • JimV

      The hype is because its Verizon’s 1st LTE capable phone, that’s it. Otherwise, it’s not much different then AT&T’s $99 Inspire.

      • Anonymous

        I guess I’m just not getting the hype for LTE then. Yes, it is nice and fast but how many people actually have LTE available in their area right now? LTE for me is probably one of the last factors in my decision on an upgrade.

        • JimV

          Ya, if you don’t have LTE in your area now then you’re better off waiting for an LTE phone when the coverage comes. These people should be looking at other factors like CPU, RAM, keyboard, form factor, dimensions, etc.

          • JG

            if the 4g plan is the same as the unlimited 3g plan in price, why wait and risk getting sucked into verizon and their tiered plans? take the tbolt, lock in the price for 2 years.

        • LionStone

          Well I guess if you don’t have 4g in your area then the T-Bolt may not be the best choice for you. However for myself, I already have 4g in the East Bay, South Bay and North Bay Area…all the areas I work and play as well as Southern Cali. When I travel across to the East coast, any city I may connect to has 4g now…Chicago, New York, Detroit, Atlanta and my final destination has it too, NC. So for some of us, a 4g phone is gonna work out just fine when we actually get it and we will!

  • Playa

    I’m prolly just gonna wait for the Droid Bionic! The only reason I wanted the Thunderbolt was because it was the first 4G phone and I couldn’t wait. I’m over the Thunderbolt, I’m gonna wait for the Bionic, it’s a better phone anyway. My OG Droid still has a few months in it : )

    • Johnnydoe

      Ill never buy motorola sh!t again. This motorblur sucks a big ol.fat hairy back!

    • iLte

      I agree, this phone has more hype associated with it than the Vz iPhone..

  • Turd

    I know someone who works for Verizon and she told me that Best Buy will start selling the TB on March 1st. The phone will be bundled with the Blu-ray release of Bambi (out that same day) and retail for $449.99 after $350 rebate. The phone will not be sold with battery at this time, but Best Buy will provide a workaround kit that includes a mini-USB plug, electrical tape, and 8 D-cell batteries.

    • Anonymous

      That’s the most stupid and absurd rumor ever…yah like its going to be cheaper than a droid x…and work around battery. Lol

      • Guest

        lol *whoosh*

    • Anonymous

      That’s the most stupid and absurd rumor ever…yah like its going to be cheaper than a droid x…and work around battery. Lol

      • Anonymous

        That’s the worst case of not reading sarcasm I have ever seen. Ya like he was being serious, and Bambi, that didn’t give it away? lol

      • turdsandwhich

        what a freakin idiot. u really thought that was real?? hahahaha

      • Wow. Never before have I seen a sarcasm fail of this magnitude.

      • Anonymous

        lol, well after 20 hours of no sleep, im pretty tiered. thats all i have to say.

  • Anonymous

    Just put a better quality battery – come on HTC .!

  • Anonymous

    With the questionable battery issue, I need to know if with the design of this phone. Ill be able to utilize an extended battery?

  • Anonymous

    Does anyone still want this outdated piece of inferior crap. Seriously, its specs are would have been impressive like a year ago.

  • Scea0512

    it seems like they are trying to prevent people from paying full retail for this phone and only setting it up for new customers to lock them in ?? $700.00 for a PHONE !!! Verizon is sniffing glue thats for sure !!! there is NO chance in hell I will spend that kind of money on a verizon Evo

    • Mr.Joe

      yeah, verizon is sniffing glue. Cause you know they made the phone.

      Verizon supplies the subsidized price for the phone and works with them to create it. HTC creates the full retail. I’m sure verizon isn’t too thrilled about it either considering they have to pay HTC for the phones.

    • Mr.Joe

      yeah, verizon is sniffing glue. Cause you know they made the phone.

      Verizon supplies the subsidized price for the phone and works with them to create it. HTC creates the full retail. I’m sure verizon isn’t too thrilled about it either considering they have to pay HTC for the phones.

  • Anonymous

    I find it very hard to believe that the battery life is the cause for delay. All of the HTC phones have a shorter battery life. I could only get about 3-4 hours of use with my DInc and my EVO gets about the same. The issue is even necessarily that the battery stinks, it is that we love our phones and are constantly on them sucking the juice for internet surfing, email, game apps, etc… How long does a Nintendo DS or PSP last when playing with them for an extended period of time?

    Who knows what the real reason is behind the delay. Lets just be patient and when it comes out, it comes out.

    • Mr.Joe

      I’ll say that smart phones don’t get great battery but there’s a lot that goes in to better battery. Just accepting that “OH everyone is like that so it’s cool” is BS.

      Why not work on supplying better battery life instead of more tech that just drains faster?

      • Jupiment

        Becasue folks buy tech, not battery life….I for one don’t see the big issue with battery life. I have my POS Hero and 3 USB cords, 1 for my house, one in my car and one at work. Just keep it plugged when not in use and you should be fine 5 days out of the week. For the weekend, you have bigger issues if you are spending that much time on your phone rather than with your significant other or friends.

  • FalseAd or BaitnSwitch

    I just called the 1800 # for Best Buy, asking if they had plans to actually sell the Thunderbolt this week since it is advertised in their paper. The woman told me “the intention is to sell them, but the ad’s purpose was to promote and inform people of the upcoming phone. However! You can pre-order the phone by paying $50 now.” That’s all she would say.

  • Tim242

    3rd and 10th…sound familiar? iphone preorder on the 3rd, released on the 10th. Coincidence? I think not! Poor iphone sales caused this…not a battery issue. This phone has been in development since summer. They didn’t just discover battery issues right at time of release The battery issue is just a rumor. You people bash people for believing rumored release dates, then you believe rumored delayes release date reasons…

    • Anonymous

      Well said Tim!

    • Anonymous

      True…..good sight….so maybe with a win phone 7 announcement tommorow will be a suprise thunderbolt pre order date and release date! ? seriously, i want my phone! lol

    • Anonymous

      but also, its tooo far away!!!

    • Phil

      Do you know for sure Apple has that kind of power over Verizon? From Verizon’s point of view, customers are customers. Doesn’t matter what phone they use. If anything, they’re losing all those customers who would unreasonably never buy an Apple product like me.

      I’m passing Verizon’s version of the Inspire.

    • MD

      Amen +1

  • Anonymous

    I don’t even want one anymore

  • Bring on the Droid Bionic!

  • SamuelJacksonB*tch

    The BlunderBloat. All that ass, but no mutha****in’ gas.

  • cowdog

    One more reason to stick with my plan and wait for summer (or fall) when we get phones shipping with ice cream. Battery life is a deal breaker, and with LTE and multi-core phones it will simply take time to work through some things. In the meantime, I will do my best to avoid the iphone. My wife picked one up, and I have to admit that’s a really nice phone. But for me, I want to keep a balance. I use a MacBook Pro and an iPad, and like to keep at least one foot outside of the Fruit Empire’s control. The OG Droid will have to keep holding on a little longer. CM7 is helping.

    • Anonymous

      i just tried the latest cm7 nightly, and couldnt get rom manager to load the download roms…anything similar from you?

  • Anonymous

    vipstores.net )

  • DBEvans

    Interresting … I realized after reading this that the Mobile Panda had hinted in the past about the 4G sucking the battery dry when he turned it on – none of us ever caught the hint he was leaving.

    Of course, he’s also suggested that the phone was originally supposed to be released closer to St. Patrick’s Day, but was pulled forward for marketing reasons. So if correct, technically, the original launch date still hasn’t been missed … it’s the subsequent leaked earlier dates that were missed – but the phone could still potentially meet the original date! lol.

    • Anonymous

      what saint patricks day? and when is that day again? no really…i forgot.

      • Anonymous

        think shamrocks and leprechauns, and lots and lots of green…march 17th

  • Anonymous

    I’m tired of all of this. Bring on the Incredible 2!

    • Tim242

      That phone that is the same as the original. It just adds .3 to the screen. The front cam is said not to be included on the US version.

    • DanSke

      Agreed. All I want is a 4.3 screen, FFC, 3G, camera in the back and gingerbread. I though 4G might be good, hence I wanted to go with the TB, but if its just gonna suck the battery dry in a matter of hours its not even worth having.

      Its like having a car that can go 0-200 mph in 20 seconds, but right around 4 secs it runs out of gas. Well…..that was fun. *sarcasm*

      • Cliffyaun

        That’s the scope of my needs / wants, as well. My 3g connection on Verizon is plenty fast enough, already. If current battery tech is just not good enough for 4g, then i’ll just wait to make that upgrade.

      • Anonymous

        I agree. 3G is plenty fast for me too. I have moved to the EVO and when I am on 4G, the battery is GONE in 3-4 hours. I don’t even bother turning it on because of this.

  • Jawshua

    If some day you’ll have good news to post, why don’t you wait until that day and stop bombarding the site with garbage about this multiple times a day, like they pay you to, and go back to the old Droid Life days when there was exciting news about new apps and cool new wallpapers and other stuff to download. Anyone else miss those days.

    And just look at Android Life, good

    • Tim242

      Like it or not, this phone is a big deal. Some of us like to know what is going on with it. So, with all due respect, STFU!

      • Godfrey2009

        Thank you Tim! 🙂

  • The rumor is the negotiations with EA are going better than expected for this to be the official phone of NBA Elite 11.

  • Dscooby666

    i just want a god damn phone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    It seems to me like HTC did a rush job on this thing to get it out in the wild for the public to drool over. I’ve never been impressed with HTC’s hardware really, always feels kinda cheap or something.
    I don’t see it as they’re working the bugs out or optimizing hardware. I see it as they threw together a pile of crap and are trying to get it to barely work good enough to release. No thanks!

    • Tim242

      This phone has been workedon and leaked since August. So, I don’t think it is being rushed.

  • Jalenmike

    Battery life is no new issue, any new or recently purchased phone like Evo, or any other smart phone all have this issue for some time now. This is no different. I understand even the Bionic is having the same issues and its not even out yet.

    • Anonymous

      Custom roms will help battery life!

    • Anonymous

      Custom roms will help battery life!

    • Anonymous

      Custom roms will help battery life!

  • A lot of bolt fans are in denial very interesting crazy group of people

    • Tim242

      Denial about what? Please enlighten me.

  • Anonymous

    so can anyone get the link above to purchase it and did anyone purchase it?

  • Riverjao

    Typed this from my Xoom 🙂

    • Jawshua

      Oh yeah? I typed this from a 1988 calculator!

  • Fredy

    NO google has said they will have to get 2.4 to be able to use dual-core

  • Anonymous

    I agree with Cory….but you also know while that second core is running…..it won’t be helping with motolag…..oh sorry i meant motoblur lag. The second core is mainly for gaming and only usable in android 2.3….so ill take my awesome tbolt over that blur crap.

  • i was at the verizon store today and was looking at the dummy model. i asked when it would come out and they said march fifth but like a week ago i asked another verizon store and they said feb. 25th. i told the 2nd store that and they said it was moved back but that it would not be moved back again. MARCH 5TH PEOPLE! GET TO YOUR VERIZON STORES!

    • Perwilly

      But that’s a Saturday? VZW has never released anything on a saturday, bro. I think they’re playing ya.

    • Jawshua

      You work for Verizon huh?

      • Tim242

        You are such a pissy little thing. Is your life that bad?

  • fartbubbler

    haha, my rooted, strapped, clocked and rommed DX is looking better by the day 🙂

    • I said the same thing about my D1 when reading up on your phone.

    • I said the same thing about my D1 when reading up on your phone.

    • I said the same thing about my D1 when reading up on your phone.

    • Anonymous

      So is mine, but a locked bootloader is absolutely unacceptable. Motorola said “if you want custom roms buy a different brand”. And that’s exactly what ill do. The unlocked xoom does give me hope for the bionic, but if I had to guess it’ll be locked too.

  • TechMo

    Wow, this, now even more, overpriced Inspire is getting ridiculous. You get 2-3 hours of battery life with occasional use.

    • Anonymous

      I’ll be sure to put this phone in my “shower”

  • TechMo

    Wow, this, now even more, overpriced Inspire is getting ridiculous. You get 2-3 hours of battery life on occasional use.

  • Fredy

    I went to Best Buy and got my money back, they were saying they didn’t know if they could give me my money back for me to use the gift card on something else i said i do NOT shop here but i wanted to free buy back now that is not i’ll take my money to VZW. And save $30 bucks of the price with the NE2 i Still have

  • Jroc869

    FAIL! The Bionic win pwn this phone

    • your saying that now. but i can assure you that it will still suffer from crap battery life aswell. not to far from the thunderbolts. my resion is its also got a 4G radio witch is obviously a battery hog. and on top of that its got a dual core processor. also battery hungry. and still got a qHD 4.3 inch screen. thats 1930mah battery may seem big, but isnt going to be all that. i cant see this phone lasting throughout the day. but performance will be great (once android can use dualcore).

      • You know dual core are more battery efficientt

        • Anonymous

          actually they aren’t. They aren’t even usable until android 2.3….and only usable in gaming.

          • Motor already put a press release saying they tweaked 2.2 to fully optimize both cores

            And if that’s not enough just look at some reviews of theatrix

          • Tim242

            Moto also said that each core is 1 ghz, which is not true! Btw, if it were more battery efficient, they wouldn’t have put such a huge battery in it.

  • Anonymous

    Good luck and good riddance. I switched to the vip4 and will revisit android in the summer if the lte devices are better than iOS and iPhone 5. Makes me sad because in loved my og droid and dinc but I needed something that would let me voice chat with my family. Was really looking forward to the tb, but coildnt wait any longer.

    • Cool story bro

      • Anonymous

        Cliche much?

  • Anonymous

    Hmm…..so did the people who were on this page get to order it? It says proceed to checkout and i still can’t find out how to get there soo…..anyways i still got my thunderbolt pre order on ebay for 629 from a verizon employee selling his pre order…and he still doesn’t know the date…which again sucks….id rather have my phone now with a crap battery than never…..

  • kw

    Lol also that explains why they had to have lightning charge the phone and what exactly is a thunderbolt? I’ve herd of thunder and lightningbolt but Thunderbolt?

  • (v)urphy

    How is it that a XOOM is about as equal in price as a phone? I’m not understanding that.

  • Cunthole

    If you’re not getting the phone you’re a cunt!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Xoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom

  • kw

    Im guessing this is why they call it the Thunderbolt because those use up a lot of energy…and most people that say they give up will get the phone anyways when it comes out lol stupid people jumping on the bandwagon

  • Mike

    I’ve continuously wondered why people want 4G so bad already if battery technology isn’t able to handle it yet. The faster data speeds aren’t worth it if your phone is dead in a few hours.

  • Batcopter54321

    They need to get this thing working soon. It is featured in the March 6th Best Buy ad on the back cover. Reg price $749.99

  • Mth2134

    Glad I never once considered this phone. Prob in the minority on that but I prefer to wait with LTE. Just doesn’t feel quite complete yet.

  • I still find this all a bit of convenience and they’re just trying to move i*hone4 units that they’ve committed to sell and no one is buying…awfully convenient set of happenings me thinks.

    • Tim242

      Agreed!

  • ChriswithaConscience

    Hi there, I’m new to the android world, and don’t consider myself a techie per se, but I am still interested in tech news. One thing I am not, however, is a mindless, hapless consumer. I was very excited for the Thunderbolt, thinking it would be the end-all-be-all of smartphones for quite some time (when I read reports prior to launch). I have been filled with nothing but disgust regarding the delays, rumors, errors, and problems with this phone though. Droidlife, and its readers, should dismiss this phone from ANY consideration for consumption. If the phone doesn’t work right, and something as elementary as the battery is flawed, why present it as “ready to rock-n-roll” at CES? This kind of marketing just shows that we as consumers are mindless and drool over tech stuff, waiting to get our hands on the “next greatest thing.” We as consumers need to say “well, we WERE really excited for this phone, but HTC/Verizon/Google are just diddling on getting it to the public, so we will move on to the other great lineup of phones. Don’t debut a product at an elec show unless it’s legit; consumers have the purchasing power.” As long as the phone keeps getting delayed, and Droidlife continues to update every spec of information about it, what does HTC/Verizon/Google care? They’ve sucked you in and kept you as submissive, obedient dogs to buy their product no matter how long they make you wait. Total joke. The Thunderbolt should be boycotted.

  • ChriswithaConscience

    Hi there, I’m new to the android world, and don’t consider myself a techie per se, but I am still interested in tech news. One thing I am not, however, is a mindless, hapless consumer. I was very excited for the Thunderbolt, thinking it would be the end-all-be-all of smartphones for quite some time (when I read reports prior to launch). I have been filled with nothing but disgust regarding the delays, rumors, errors, and problems with this phone though. Droidlife, and its readers, should dismiss this phone from ANY consideration for consumption. If the phone doesn’t work right, and something as elementary as the battery is flawed, why present it as “ready to rock-n-roll” at CES? This kind of marketing just shows that we as consumers are mindless and drool over tech stuff, waiting to get our hands on the “next greatest thing.” We as consumers need to say “well, we WERE really excited for this phone, but HTC/Verizon/Google are just diddling on getting it to the public, so we will move on to the other great lineup of phones. Don’t debut a product at an elec show unless it’s legit; consumers have the purchasing power.” As long as the phone keeps getting delayed, and Droidlife continues to update every spec of information about it, what does HTC/Verizon/Google care? They’ve sucked you in and kept you as submissive, obedient dogs to buy their product no matter how long they make you wait. Total joke. The Thunderbolt should be boycotted.

    • Yourestupid

      Technically the phone hasn’t been delayed. There was never a release date announced by verizon, google, or htc. The only thing that was said by any of the parties was that it would be released in the first quarter, or q1. Most consumers are mindless, that’s the only thing you have stated correctly. Would you want a half baked product. I know I dont. So wait until a release date is announced then, then judge.

      • ChriswithaConscience

        Well, however you want to justify begging on your knees waiting for it to come out is fine with me. I’m not stupid (as your name refers), I’m just wanting these mega corporations to treat consumers with a little respect through their products. It’s not ready? Battery is no good? This is as lame as Apple saying they didn’t know about the antenna problem. Note to HTC/Verizon: get the phone figured out systemically and mechanically, test it on the network, and THEN announce it to consumers. The instant consumers say “we know you put $300 million into designing this phone, and we really wanted it when you debuted it two months ago, but this is an insult on my purchasing power. Present me a new great product when I can actually buy it.”

        FYI – BB really does have the Thunderbolt in their ad today. The delay IS official – you can’t buy it and take it home today. They want you to put down a deposit (aka interest-free-loan) so you can wait…..and wait……and wait……just like a dog being told to stay

        • MEstupid

          That’s Best Buys add, not HTC, Verizon, or Google. If a store wants to jump the gun that’s on them. Officially, I’m saying officially as a Verizon employee, a release date from us was never given. Let me check all my emails and, nope, a day is not mentioned from us. Bad battery life on 4g, yes, release date, no. So let’s not get all riled up on this one.

          • Tim242

            If you were truly a Verizon employee, you would know that Verizon reps direct Best Buy. They visit daily. Best Buy didn’t just pull a preorder and release date of 2/14 out of their asses.

          • blootz

            +1

          • Anonymous

            Febrero was promised. Besides, couldn’t Verizon coordinate a little better with their “exclusive retailer” best buy and make sure they’re on the same page? Yes they sure could. Where do you think best buy has been getting these release dates from? The Pope?

        • Scottpimpsta

          I agree w/ chriswithaConsience. Just ridiculous. Verizon controls when BB puts those adds out. I still can’t believe they didn’t put the hdmi output on it. What a joke! They know what we like, so why short us on it. New phones and software updates every 6 month that your phone might not get. Sucks! Iphone 5? I might just wait u.

      • CaptainObvious

        It’s pretty obvious that the Thunderbolt has been delayed from what Verizon had originally intended. There ARE such things as deadlines for projects, products, tasks, goals, etc. HTC, Verizon and any company wouldn’t start making a product without a schedule with specific milestones in the time line.

        • Dreamliner

          This is what happens when leaks occur. Internal deadlines are announced. Those deadlines pass because of bad engineers, bad managers, bad scheduling, bad testing or whatever the reason is then people get angry. That’s why some companies do all they can to prevent leaks or only provide controlled “leaks.” Seems like Verizon and HTC are doing a bad job in all those aspects.

          • Anonymous

            How do you explain Best Buy?

          • ActionJackson

            Verizon obviously has a say in what Best Buy does. So it goes back to what was said earlier: “bad engineers, bad managers, bad scheduling, bad testing.”

          • GG

            Or, could it be.. bad PRODUCT??

      • AnimationB

        I would want a half-baked product with correcting firmware and updates on the way, rather than no product at all.

    • Josh

      you are also not a very good business man. You are blaiming HTC, Verizon, and Google. Well all Google does is provide the softwear, so its not their fault that this phone is “delayed.” Don’t blame Verizon either. It’s not their fault that HTC can’t get their act together. And Verizon is also doing what’s best for the customer by not allowing a phone to be released that has so many flaws at this point. Verizon nor HTC have never put out an official release date, therefore everything that you have seen on this site is a RUMOR! Verizon stated that it would be released in the first quater which means they have one month to get this phone out. I would like to see you produce a phone that is this powerfull.

  • tommyz

    Don’t worry… They will offer a cover to go around the phone to correct the battery life.
    .
    The cover thing worked for apple 😉

  • tommyz

    Don’t worry… They will offer a cover to go around the phone to correct the battery life.
    .
    The cover thing worked for apple 😉

  • Eddieg28sp

    Unfortunate the BS going on with this Phone. I really do want it. But its not going to be the First LTE 4G phone, since that Trophy has gone to MetroPcs’ Samsung Galaxy Indulge. I just Hope the Droid Bionic isnt all locked up when it comes out. 🙂

  • Eddieg28sp

    Unfortunate the BS going on with this Phone. I really do want it. But its not going to be the First LTE 4G phone, since that Trophy has gone to MetroPcs’ Samsung Galaxy Indulge. I just Hope the Droid Bionic isnt all locked up when it comes out. 🙂

  • It’s starting to sound like it might be time to shelve this phone. Are they seriously just now figuring out that there is horrible battery life with LTE turned on? How does that happen?

    • Jawshua

      Yeah that was my first reaction. How are they now just finding out about the battery!? That’s ridiculous! What happened to extensively testing a phone before putting it up for release? Oh, that’s right, I forgot the bottom dollar corrupts and controls all.

      • Tim242

        The battery issue is just a rumor. You people bash people for believing rumored release dates, then you believe rumored delayes release date reasons…

    • Tim242

      The battery issue is just a rumor. You people bash people for believing rumored release dates, then you believe rumored delayes release date reasons…

  • JG

    on twitter i heard that that the phone comes out this week from a VERY reliable source…VERY reliable

    • If you’re talking about BMX, did you go back and see that he removed that tweet and said it was supposed to be a DM to somebody?

      • JG

        i think he was just being sneaky…saying it was supposed to be a DM and deleting it to play along

        • Perwilly

          a DM? what’s that?

          • Anonymous

            It’s a “Direct Message” on Twitter. It’s basically a tweet that only the recipient can see.

          • Perwilly

            Thnx rjholla – I’m not into the whole twitter thing. I tried once and it drove me nuts. So thnx for the explanation.

          • Anonymous

            DMing has been a part of forums since like the first one. Apparently you’re new to the internet too.

          • Anonymous

            People like you need to be kicked in the nuts.

          • Anonymous

            Yeah, I’m sorry. It was a stupid comment.

            Everyone is new to the internet at some point and even if they aren’t, there are plenty of netizens who have not used a forum or don’t even know what a forum is. And of course forums aren’t the first place DMs were used, although it is the first place I’ve seen that term used.

  • Kuba1313

    Just get the Droid Bionic, why is anyone even waiting for this phone?

    • Many people prefer software over hardware and motorola will likely put a licked bootloader in the Bionic

    • Anonymous

      cause my current phone (envy touch) can make only one call before dying on me (since january) and dont want to drop $50 for a replacment battery since im getting a new phone anyways

      • Anonymous

        The Thunderbolt can only make one call before the battery dies too, apparently.

    • Because I like Sense more than MotoBlur

    • Because I like Sense more than MotoBlur

    • (not that I don’t wholeheartedly agree, but devil’s advocate here) The locked bootloader means no custom kernels, which are important for getting some ROMs to work (Notably AOSP ROMs like CyanogenMod). It also pretty much means you’ll have to wait around for Motorola to push software updates instead of just flashing a ROM with the newest version of Android.

      Now personally, I have a Nexus S for all that, but if I didn’t I might be a bit more concerned about it.

  • Anonymous

    I have read many of these stories claiming “battery life is so bad that testers have had to carry around a second phone.” Wouldn’t it make more sense to just carry around an extra battery? Doesn’t this seem strange to anyone? This launch is a failure. And I don’t want to hear anyone say “how could it be a failure if they haven’t even mentioned a release date”. Because their commercial said febrero, and the ceo of htc was saying the phones were shipped. And then you got best buy claiming all these dates. Like Verizon couldn’t reach out to them and set them strait. After all, bb is supposed to be the exclusive retailer.

  • Anonymous

    LTE: Long Term Evolution

    At least VZW got that name right. It does, indeed, take a LONG time for the Blundertholt to EVOlve from its Sprint beginning. It has evolved to extinction from my wishlist.

  • Motta2003

    At this point since the data plan is supposedly the same price as we’re currently paying, I’d take the phone to use on 3G and wait for a fix. Granted not the correct way to engineer something and this should have been weeded out far before teasing the crap out of us with a supposed release timeframe (Q1). I just need to get rid of my BB Storm! Viva La Android!

  • fuz

    HTC phones never had good battery life. It’s also partly because they put in weak batteries.

  • Ill just move along to a new droid branded phone no more tbolt for me

    • Jawshua

      Yeah I don’t even care about this phone and never have. The Bionic has always had me the most excited anyways.

      • Tim242

        Then, why are you in here trying to piss on people that do care? What a loser you are.

        • MD

          +1

        • Scottpimpsta

          Yea! Motoblur sucks! Screw you!!!!

      • Tim242

        Then, why are you in here trying to piss on people that do care? What a loser you are.

  • Phil

    I canceled my pre-order today, I have lost all confidence in this phone.

  • Phil

    I canceled my pre-order today, I have lost all confidence in this phone.

    • Anonymous

      I’m gonna do same

      • Phil

        I was surprised that the management seemed brand new to the process (the cancellation) . They ended up giving me cash back instead of on my CC. They were understandable and didn’t even attempt to talk me into keeping the order. I’m now holding out for the Bionic. Good luck!

        • Anonymous

          I’m torn because I sold my droid x on 2/13 in anticipation for 2/14 launch. Now I’m stuck with bb tour in the interim. Snail vs. Rabbit. I can’t live with this bb … but not left with much of a choice.

        • Anonymous

          I’m torn because I sold my droid x on 2/13 in anticipation for 2/14 launch. Now I’m stuck with bb tour in the interim. Snail vs. Rabbit. I can’t live with this bb … but not left with much of a choice.

        • Johnnydoe

          Good luck with motorola and motoblur, I hate it! Droid x

  • ill let you know as soon as i hear anything else

  • ill let you know as soon as i hear anything else

  • tanknspank

    I’ve moved on. I will wait on something else to come out since I’ve yet to hear of a solid date, let alone know of when I will actually get the device. I will just force myself to wait till something better comes around, again. *sigh*

  • tanknspank

    I’ve moved on. I will wait on something else to come out since I’ve yet to hear of a solid date, let alone know of when I will actually get the device. I will just force myself to wait till something better comes around, again. *sigh*

  • Anonymous

    o.k. im waiting htc im waiting until mid march when this will probably be released.

  • Anonymous

    o.k. im waiting htc im waiting until mid march when this will probably be released.

    • Calidog50

      I’m with you…been drooling for this phone for over 6 weeks! I will give it 2 more and I’m done!!!

      • Calidog50

        And as for VZW’s You Tube commercials, HTC just released their Thunderbolt commercial days ago! Where is the communication between HTC- BB – VZW???

      • Calidog50

        And as for VZW’s You Tube commercials, HTC just released their Thunderbolt commercial days ago! Where is the communication between HTC- BB – VZW???

  • Raptor007

    I was in the Verizon store and while they did not have a firm date, the Manager did confirm they heard that battery life was the cause. They have been told March 3rd and 10th but they were not optimistic.

    On a side note the mgr did allow me to check out the dummy unit and I have to say size, weight and over all feel are on the mark. Now if they could just resolve the battery OR, ship it with the 2750mAh for FREE at least we could get 6-8 hours on 4G LTE and push out a fix later on. Otherwise this will NOT be the first 4G LTE phone or worse yet push back all other launches.

    • Tim242

      3rd and 10th…sound familiar? iphone preorder on the 3rd, released on the 10th. Coincidence? I think not! Poor iphone sales caused this…not a battery issue. This phone has been in development since summer. They didn’t just discover battery issues right at time of release The battery issue is just a rumor. You people bash people for believing rumored release dates, then you believe rumored delayes release date reasons…

  • Does HTC even make an Android phone that cannot be described as having horrible battery life? It would be more of story if they released a phone that had decent battery life…

    • Raptor007

      Given no one else has REAL 4G out I think throwing rocks at glass houses is a bit unfair. We have yet to see if Moto, Samsung or LG can do any better and more importantly it could just be the network causing the issue as much as the phone.

      I have used a DInc with standard battery and got through the day just fine.

      • Anonymous

        You must not have used your Dinc more than twice a day.

      • Anonymous

        I love my DInc and have no complaints about the battery life. Sure it isn’t long but it wasn’t like my original Droid lasted that much longer.