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New Moto X Currently Scheduled for September 25 Arrival at Verizon

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Back in February, Motorola confirmed to the press that a new Moto X would arrive in “late” summer, along with a smartwatch, which we now know as the Moto 360. Sources of ours have confirmed to us that Verizon is currently expecting the new Moto X by September 25. That date may be just outside of summer, which officially ends September 22, but it’s close enough. Also, there is always a chance that we see other carrier variants of the device arrive before Verizon gets it, which would put Motorola inside their own timeline. 

We have no news on a potential Moto 360 launch. If I were a betting man, I would put money on it arriving around that same time, though.

Keep in mind that dates can always change, but if you listen to the DL Show regularly, you will know that we have been hearing late September for a while now.

  • t.sang

    does anyone know whats happening with the “Droid Maxx” is it going to be discontinued or replaced , upgraded…??? i love the Droid Maxx….

  • http://www.baseddiscounts.com Based Discounts

    Anyone know when this will come out in the UK/europe?

  • M3D1T8R

    Use those available basic phone line upgrades while you can, Verizon
    users. Looks like the loophole for getting a new smartphone at cheap
    contract price then reverting that line back to basic phone will be
    ending Aug 24. (From TK Tech)
    I was hoping to hold out with my final
    available upgrade for the new Moto X or something…. But looks like I
    will have to use it now to get an Iphone or something again to sell and
    save the $ to buy my next phone full price finally. Bummer.

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    when does the new droid arrive?

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  • Daniel Lujan

    Anyone know why T-Mobile isn’t a carrier of Motorola phones? I bought my moto x at full price but I’d love to get the new one and break it up into payments.

    • Godzilla

      motorola.com zero percent interest

  • Droidrazr

    When is the Droid Maxx getting chromecast mirroring support. Been on 4.4.4 for weeks now and still nothing?

  • tardis 13

    If Verizon is launching the X+1 on Sept 25, when would that put the announcement of Verizon’s new Droid line-up?

  • http://www.ashevilletechnologyservices.com Dan Brown

    I’m pissed if I have to wait that long for the 360. Especially thinking it would have been at I/O

  • Crysmic

    I might wait and get the new Moto X. I want a near-stock experience.

  • ckeegan

    If I have to wait 7 weeks for this and the 360, that’s f’n stupid. Late summer doesn’t actually have to mean the very last possible week of summer Moto. D-bags.

  • sski66

    I’m really psyched for this, I just picked up a Moto X for a girl friend of mine, ( she doesn’t need the latest bleeding edge phone), & I was really impressed by the phone & the whole Moto Maker process. It’s like a lot of people were saying, there’s just something right about this phone, & it’s still snappy a year later so this new updated X really should just kill it. I have a M7 that I’m pretty happy with but I think when this comes out I just have to have it.

  • ClickFire_

    Moto X+1 for Verizion user. Moto Nexus 6 for everyone else LOL.

  • MentatYP

    5″-or-so 1080p screen, battery that lasts at least as long as the LG G2, Bob’s your uncle.

  • Lucas Rains

    Buy the G3 now or wait 2 months? Keep in mind I’m sporting an OG RAZR MAXX… :(

    • Jason Brown

      a gnex for me. i was hoping to upgrade soon. looking forward to the moto x+1 to finally be released whenever that happens.

  • Jprime

    I know I’ll get some hate, but I hope they improve active display a lot. I loved it until putting my hands in my pocket meant accidently turning my phone on and emailing people. Its happened about 4 times this month. Email, call, caleneder events, time change!

    • Nikuliai

      WTF! I’ve always put my hands in my pockets and I’ve NEVER have done this, what I’ve actually been pissed off is the fact touchless sometimes makes me call someone when I’m chatting about something else (happened to me 2 times in a year, which is not a lot, but it’s 2 times more than it should have)

      • Jprime

        I thought I was losing my mind. But I just heard it go off in my pocket, and I had my hand in there…guess its just the way I keep them in there when I’m idle.

        • M3D1T8R

          Don’t you keep the phone face to your leg? So if you put your hand in your pocket you’ll just touch the back of the phone.

          • Jprime

            I know, I agree… But that’s not how it’s playing out

  • Justin Merithew

    Motorola is pretty brave. It seems like everybody but HTC is launching a device that month. Apple’s iPhone 6, Samsung’s Note 4, Sony’s Z3, and if LG is hoping to have the G3 Stylus go toe to toe with the Note 4 it will probably be released in the same month. Motorola must think they have something really special if they want to release into this much competition.

    • Al-Burrit0

      Well they might…w/moto 360 package

      • Justin Merithew

        That would be pretty huge if they had it at a reasonable price point.

        • Al-Burrit0

          Yeah that’s what I’m hoping for!

  • Higher_Ground

    oh well, it better not suck after waiting this long.

  • Godzilla

    X phone

  • GJV

    Droid Life: Hypebeast Mode Engaged

  • Shadowstare

    If this is anything less than the Moto X+1, I’m not interested.

  • RaptorOO7

    So I guess this means the Galaxy Note 4 won’t show up on Verizon that week since they don’t like to put out competing phones that will take sales away from another big phone. People buy what they want to buy not what you tell them to buy.

    • kashtrey

      Not really. A ton of less informed, less tech savvy people, listen and trust sales people and end up buying whatever is recommended. I’ve seen/heard it pretty much every time I’ve been in a Verizon store.

      • M3D1T8R

        Yeah always hear, “I want the Galaxy”, with no idea that there’s both a Galaxy S and Note, or the difference, and no idea there’s a Moto X or HTC One to consider as well. Just “Iphone or Galaxy”, and the salespeople don’t seem interested in helping much.

        • kashtrey

          It’s not even that they don’t seem interested in helping, it’s the fact that the sales associates have instructions to push certain phones hard and have to meet certain quotas. They will actively steer you away from a perfectly good phone that you may want to whatever they’re currently promoting. On top of that, you get the random “fanboy” sales associates that are actually educated about the phones but will only push what they think is best and not what is best for you.

          My friend went in a few months back to get a Moto X, based upon my recommendation and their desire to get a wood backed phone. The experience for them was horrible and entailed the rep bashing the X and trying to sell them on the S4.

  • DaveIsAwesome

    I hope they have a lot of accessories for it. I love Motorola phones but as a cellphone salesman, if I don’t sell enough accessories per phone I will lose my job. The Kyocera Brigadier also has a sapphire crystal layer on its screen witch I know would be good for a lot of people but they will be less likely to purchase a screen protector with it so I can only sell so many of them. I don’t like this set up but I don’t like not being able to provide for my family even more. :-

    • PoisonApple31

      I would buy more accessories from the cellphone salesman, but you never have spare battery chargers at launch or spare smartwatch chargers, or the things I’d buy. I realize that’s on LG and Samsung, but I don’t use screen protectors anymore. There is never a selection of cases I want either, nothing minimalist enough.

      I don’t necessarily buy accessories from Amazon by choice, the cellphone stores just never have anything I want when I want to buy accessories.

  • droidrazredge

    I can’t wait that long for the phone. My body couldn’t be more readier than it is now for this phone to come out….

  • Matthew DiGiacomo

    So basically everyone else will have it September 1st? Sweet.

  • droidrazredge

    I wonder if my Moto X thinks I’m going to dump her soon or that I’ll cheat on her with the X + 1; she’s not giving up the performance goods like she to. Could it be all the DL messages blowing up my phone today or is it jealousy ? /s

  • Booyabobby

    Calendar marked.

  • yummy

    My drone ate my phone now all I got is this gold watch out here she comes
    Motoman been a busy bee

  • Ryan Dombroski

    Why September! So far away :/ Hurry Up!

  • Matt G

    HURRY UP

  • Suicide_Note

    *pokes head out*

    This isn’t about Moto’s shamu? Damn.

    *crawls back into hole*

    • clobberedchina

      Me too. I want to hear more tales of the whale.

      • Justtyn Hutcheson

        IIIIIIIts a whale of a tale I’ll tell ya lad,
        A whale of a tale or twooo-ooooo….

    • Orion

      I can’t wait for the new Nexus. If those rumors pan out….definitely getting it.

      • Suicide_Note

        Same here. I’ve never been interested in a phablet before, but I’d be willing to give a Moto-made Nexus phablet a shot. Besides, if I dislike it, I can sell it and stay with my N5.

  • Mudokon83

    So end of September, I get to decide if I want a Moto X+1 or an LG G3 or an HTC ONE? Got it!

  • nick

    Moto X+1 will be announced on 25 september, or it is the date of start sales?

    • Justtyn Hutcheson

      Article says that the carrier expects it by then, so the assumption is sales. Announcement would likely be 2-4 weeks prior to that. Of course, it also says “as late as”, so that’s not exactly definitive either.

      • M3D1T8R

        My guess is the X+1 and the Moto 360 will be announced toward the end of August, and start becoming available around the week of Sept 15. New Droids around then as well.

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          Yep, that’s the same timing as the Droids/X for Verizon last year. Here’s hoping they don’t hold a Droid launch that reveals everything about their sparkly new X+1 two weeks ahead of their own launch event like last year.

          • 213ninja

            i’ll take the info as soon as i can get it.

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            Agreed, but they kinda shot themselves in the foot. The only thing left was Moto Maker and the actual physical design, which were cool, buuuuut, yeah, not so much “WOW”.

          • 213ninja

            and wooden backs…maybe this year they’ll offer granite or concrete or like, a real fire.

        • Jason Brown

          i always wondered why oems in general always wait a few weeks between announcing a new phone and the release. is it to build up even more hype? would be nice to finally be able to buy a phone the same day it’s announced or within a week of it’s announcement.

          • M3D1T8R

            I think it’s more to do with getting everything in order for the release on carriers, then announcing it as soon as that’s all in place, so people will be more likely to wait a couple weeks for it if they like it, and maybe preorder, instead of potentially buying a competitors device in those couple weeks.
            To their credit HTC did it with the M8, available at Verizon same day as launch. Of course it was completely leaked by then, but still impressive.

          • Jason Brown

            i forgot about HTC. they did a great job with that! hopefully more oems can do that in the future. i still remember the whole gnex vzw release and how that was delayed for a long time.

          • M3D1T8R

            Yeah I remember it too. By the time it was finally released I decided to just hold off.. Ended up waiting for the GS3 the following July. Ironically I got so sick of Samsung’s buttons I sold it six months later and bought a cheap used GNexus! Then had so many problems with thst and 5 insurance replacements, they finally offered me a new DNA, which I gladly accepted. Been happily using it since.
            Hopefully more OEM’s start releasing more like HTC or at least within a week or so.

  • M3D1T8R

    This fall is gearing up to be almost like the videogame console war of Fall 1995. Sega Saturn, Sony PlayStation, and Nintendo 64 all within a couple months. Those were the days..

  • M3D1T8R

    New Moto X, 360, new Droids, Note 4 (yawn), along the same time as the new Iphone and possible watch, and new Nexus and maybe a new Nexus tablet. Now we just need the Sony Z3 to show up and it will be a really fun Fall. I’m committed to waiting as far out as next year (One M9) for my next phone if nothing gets it just right, but it’s going to be tough.

  • Am79

    Someone PLEASE leak a new pic of this thing!

  • Woody Hermey

    I disagree that Motor should release early. Think about it. Samsung and Apple dominate, yes. But, this also means that many carrier contracts will end on their time line. If Motor is ever going to truly compete, they will have to hit them head on. However, I fear that their marketing will once again fall short.

    • NBMTX

      I think the Moto X’s marketing was intentionally weak so as not to piss of Samsung… I think if the X had been released without the awful carrier and oem driven pricing, and if they had put out more ads with some competitive spirit, they could have had a success. The device was really good even (or especially?) to the non-tech-enthusiast.

      • Woody Hermey

        I switched from a GS4 when the X launched. It was better than the Samsung in every way, except camera. After software improvements, it is now comparable. Point is, if you just look at user experience and build quality, no phone is better. Sales never reflected. So, marketing and release date were very poor. I hope they change both.

      • Cael

        And why should Moto not piss off Samsung? LG does it.
        Their marketing was not well thought out. It wasn’t weak. They were advertising a customizable phone that was only customizable on 1 carrier in the beginning.

        • Woody Hermey

          Agreed! I have had hundreds of people comment on my phone and ask what it was. When I would tell them, every single one said, “never heard of it”. But, several have bought one after seeing mine. Piss Poor Marketing. I believe that’s why the are shuffling some people around in that department.

          • cns2007

            +1000 I feel Moto made several missteps when they launched the first X. Hopefully they’ve learned from those mistakes.

        • DJ SPY

          I think he meant Google not wanting to piss off Samsung. Now that they’re no longer under Google, they can piss off anyone they want.

          • middlehead

            They’re still under Google, and almost certainly still will be at the end of September.

          • Cael

            Plus there’s been no news about how the Lenovo-Motorola deal is going. Is there an expected finalization date?
            Has China even approved it yet?

          • Cael

            Samsung can’t do much. They can’t even release a Tizen phone. They’re gonna switch to Windows? Too bad they haven’t even been paying Microsoft royalities.
            They can try forking the hell out of Android but nobody uses the Google service copies (maybe excluding S voice) and touchwiz sucks enough.

        • NBMTX

          Because Google didn’t want to upset other OEMs by giving Motorola an unfair advantage as a Google company. Things were pretty cold between Google and Samsung up until they talked, earlier this year. http://goo.gl/4bWSxS

      • Woody Hermey

        And nobody has “intentionally weak” marketing.

        • NBMTX

          Right, I guess marketing and advertising are just Google’s weak points. /s

          • Woody Hermey

            Google has nothing to do with Motorola Marketing. Never did. Plus, there is a big difference between marketing and providing an avenue for other companies to advertise. Geez. Get a clue. Marketing sells products. If you have a good product, and it doesn’t sell, you have crappy marketing.

          • NBMTX

            Google has nothing to do with a Google Company’s marketing? Are you somehow trying to suggest Google ran Motorola as a separate company for reasons not largely pertaining to [market share-dominant] OEM satisfaction?

            spot the big difference:

            marketing – the action or business of promoting and selling products or services, including market research (Google)
            and advertising (Google)
            market- advertise or promote [something].

            Marketing doesn’t necessarily sell products, it motivates a target audience/consumer to want to buy a product by building value in the product.. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=marketing+vs+sales

            On top of that, you’re the one saying a parent company has nothing to do with a division of itself losing billions and yet you’re telling me to get a clue?

  • DanSan

    ugh another picture of a phone face down on hard concrete

    http://www.themobilityresource.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/grinds-my-gears.jpg

    • Menger40

      I think DL does this just to drive us crazy.

    • Godzilla

      face down ass up

      • Mike

        That’s the way I like to…. cuddle?

        • Mech_Engr_09

          *FART NOISE*

      • droidrazredge

        That’s because DL is more into the posterier of a device than the frontierier of it. The posterier puts out more.

        • Caleb Boerner

          Anterior not frontierier…

    • Cael

      They put something under it though….

  • Pootis Man

    Damn. I thought they would release the phone sooner. All you have to do is wait about 1-2 months and the new Nexus phone is probably already out.

    • PoisonApple31

      It’s simple actually. You’re new Nexus will have a screen size close to 6 inches, the X+1 closer to 5 inches. Which do you prefer?

      • Pootis Man

        The next Nexus phone has not been confirmed to have a screen that big so for know the X+1 but that could easily change.

  • Guest
    • Justtyn Hutcheson

      That….is super creepy. Thanks for the momentary chill down the spine, just what I needed on an otherwise delightful Friday afternoon.

      • Bryan Mills

        Are you new to the internet

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          Alas no, but that doesn’t make it any less jarring when it’s unexpected.

    • DanSan

      ugh of course i post that and it displays as “guest”. thanks disqus

      • Guest

        My body is ready too…….

  • Orion

    The fall lineup is already looking awesome. But moto should have used August as their month. They’re wasting a great opportunity here.

    • Justtyn Hutcheson

      I’m more afraid of them pushing up against the iPhone launch. Much as I love Motorola, that is not a fight they can win. Not now anyway, maybe not ever again.

      • Cael

        They may not win the war but they could win the battle on so many levels. Price, user experience, etc

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          I know it’s not a win/lose situation, but getting lost in the noise around that launch would be a terrible fate if it turns out to be a stellar device.

          • Higher_Ground

            especially if Verizon decides to put all their weight behind the droid line up again.

      • Justin W

        With a 25th release date, we’re going to end up looking at a Moto phone while stores are packed with iPhone people looking for a new iPhone.

  • Ralph Bretz

    If the latest benchmarh’s are true with the specs. A higher end Moto phone that can compete with Samsung but with Active Display and Motorola’s battery life. Going to be a good fall.

  • tharealoc

    My moto x is still going strong, the only way I can justify the upgrade is if they launch at a sub 400 price tag.

    • RoyD77

      Rumor, and that’s all it is, based on a Moto dev website that was found then taken offline, is $400. At least, that’s what the placeholder page said. Also, in a Q&A back in Feb 2014 during Mobile World Conference, the official Motorola Twitter had this quote: “Q: Will Motorla sell high priced phones? A: Great smart phones should be available to everyone & days of $600 phones are limited. “

      • Qwerty

        I’m thinking (and hoping) Moto drops the price of the phone after it’s released just like they did with the Moto X. If that happens and the new version has better battery life, I’d be all over it.

  • adbFreedom

    G3 just got a little more tempting… I am an inpatient man lol

    • youknowwatimean

      I would have bought one two if it wasn’t for the heating issue.

      • Bryan Mills

        It’s a non issue

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          Except when it’s an issue :-P

          • Tony Spencer

            Except when someone issues an exception to the issue.

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            But there are times when the exception becomes the rule.

          • Tony Spencer

            For every rule, there is an exception. So you always follow the rule, except when there is an exception, in which case you follow a new rule based on that exception.

      • PoisonApple31

        I have not had this problem with my G3 at all.

  • Jason Purp

    I can wait that long. But I really want an announcement. I want it, like, now.

  • NANP

    My galaxy nexus is dying. I don’t know if it can hold on for another month (seriously). Moto hurry up!

    • Shane Redman

      I commend you for lasting this long.

      • Justin Kos

        Same, my friend still uses his Gnex. Personally I couldnt stand the battery life ><

        • Shane Redman

          Yup. Soon as I saw that X8 system and minimal android skin, i hopped on the Droid Maxx and never looked back at that GNex. Heck, I’ll still even power on the OG droid from time to time, just to see how far we’ve come. But that GNex is dead to me

    • bob

      Just replaced my GNex on Monday, with… a Moto X.

      List of things my GNex could do that my X cannot: wifi hotspot
      List of things my X does that my GNex cannot: function as a smartphone

      I love being able to open applications and having more than 90 minutes of battery life. Don’t get me wrong, I love my GNex (which is why I held onto it for nearly 3 years.) I just forgot what it was like to turn on navigation and have it know where I was in under 15 minutes, or open an app or type a sentence in under a minute. Hopefully I’ll forget how useful it is to have a wifi hotspot on demand.

      If the new X is priced as the current, go ahead and wait. If it is not, go ahead and lock in last year’s model at $125 off. If you’re like me, you probably won’t regret it.

      • Arie Hoogendoorn

        Did the same thing a couple of months ago now. Never looked back. Although I will probably drool a little bit when Moto releases the New X.

      • Higher_Ground

        I ended up getting my Gnex fairly late, the summer after it was released. I feared it wouldn’t last me 2 years and that’s pretty much been true, even though I still use it. I know the two phones are night and day, but I really have reservations about buying a phone that’s 9+ months old (again).

      • kashtrey

        What version did the new X ship with and what’s your carrier? You can root to 4.4.3 and under and should be able to run Wifi Hotspot.

    • Higher_Ground

      me too :(
      and I’ve seriously been wanting to jump on one of the promotions for the old moto X, but have justified it by saying “the new one is just around the corner”….

    • http://ThisWeeksBeats.com Deez

      My SGS3’s charging port no longer works. I can’t develop on it, and I have to use an external battery charger… As soon as the Moto X is available I’m buying it… But now I have to hold out for the rest of the Summer…

  • Bryan Mills

    Competing with Apple? Not good, Moto. Release sooner.

    • allday

      If that is what they want to do than release it sooner.

    • http://www.droid-life.com Kellex B

      Going to be a big month in tech. Galaxy Note 4 announcement comes at the beginning of September, which I would assume means available towards the end as well.

      • Bryan Mills

        Gonna be hard to compete with everybody. Especially with the larger sizes incoming. Wonder how it will play out.

        • Cael

          Probably the exact same as last year.

        • http://www.droid-life.com Kellex B

          Just think if Apple gives us a watch at the same time Moto drops the 360. That should be fun.

          • FortitudineVincimus

            “us”? What “us” are you talking about? No “us” I know that uses Apple mobile products.

          • Bryan Mills

            Consumers.

          • Cael

            Don’t you know that even though the iWatch is late to the smartwatch party that its going to be the standard for it? Gear What?

          • Zach Cline

            And it’s going to have half the features of android wear.

          • ClickFire_

            It will probably just be iOS on your wrist which is pointless.

            Android wear is in a good spot for only being 1st gen and with Google being known to greatly improve software through updates it will improve quickly.

          • Justin Kos

            They must be real tight lipped about this because with the past few iphone releases various parts or dummy models have made it out.. but the watch, not even a peep

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            Oh good God, the internet would break from the sheer number of flame wars that would ignite. If Samsung dropped the Gear Solo during IFA as well, I don’t think it would ever recover.

          • http://www.techreviewshop.com/ JP

            It’s pretty clear cut Kellex. The Moto 360 will be the best selling android watch and the Apple iWatch will be the best selling iOS watch.

          • ButThenYouWokeUp

            Just like the Moto X was the best selling Android Smartphone.

            Right?

            Right…?

          • Justin Strickland

            Are you somehow unaware of the overwhelming anticipation for the moto 360? What rock have you been hiding under?

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            Anticipation does not equal sales. Especially for an expensive accessory.

          • Justin Strickland

            You’re right. They’ll be too out of stock to transition the anticipation to sales.

          • C-Law

            More like it will be an at&t exclusive

          • Zach Cline

            Nobody was overwhelmed with the Samsung and LG watches . Everyone was expecting the moto 360 . So yeah – The 360 is going to sell like hot cakes .

          • ImmaDroid

            That’s us though who are anticipating the 360, the Android enthusiasts.. Mom & pop, and little Billy & Cindy have no clue what the hell a Moto 360 is, never heard of it, nor will ever get one. So I am sure its not going to sell huge numbers after all said and done

          • Justin Strickland

            That’s fine. It’s a premium item with a specific audience. If they saturate the target audience with their sales, it’s a successful device. Isn’t that what any product tries to do? It’s competing with smart watches, not all watches. On top of that, being that wearables is still a new industry, now is the time to get it to market. A home run now means when someone asks “hey, what’s that?” the response is “it’s a moto 360″ and not “it’s an android wear smart watch”. Basically any sales over the competition at this point of the game is a win.

          • ImmaDroid

            Again for us it will be, but in sales and to the average consumer it wont be. Samsung is already 4 steps ahead of them with smart watch sales, so I highly doubt they’ll be selling higher than the competition. Demand will be high in the beginning for all us pre-ordering and buying out the initial stock, then they wont be able to keep up with demand, sales will drop, and someone else will come out with a new better one.
            I love Moto, and i am extremely excited for the 360 myself. But its because we follow this daily. Someones not going to see my watch and run out and spend $300, just like they don’t run out and buy the same phone i have, especially being that 90% of everyone I know or see have iPhones. High anticipation of this will probably only lead to 200k sold, if that.

          • tomn1ce

            Hopefully they have a good marketing campaign behind the Moto 360 to introduce the rest of the people to it. If they get a marketing campaign the same way they did with the OG Droid, I’m pretty sure they will sale many of them.

          • Just the Facts

            Most tech sites last year named the Moto X the phone to buy and was #1 on all their list of phones, even with the lower specs. NOT Just DL

          • dannyWHITE

            U mean the only selling IOS watch?

          • AbbyZFresh

            But then how much the difference of actually selling will the iWatch and the 360 be on the first weekend of launch? Probably a large difference of about 15-20 million?The iWatch has mindshare among the public, people know Apple will release a watch soon. How many people outside of us Android fans know about Motorola releasing the 360? Not many?

            And that is especially reflected in the Moto X sales.

          • James Burkett

            No one has heard of or talks about the fabled “iWatch” Except iBGR. No one else talks of it. The fabled “iWatch” doesn’t have the mindshare you seem to think it does.

          • nosedive94

            Then Apple’s offering will sell by the millions, and everyone will claim Wear watches are a copy of whatever Apple has. It’s not about who has the better product here. It’s about who’s first to market.

          • Jeremy Buro

            Motorola should offer combo deals with the 360 and the new moto x….that would up their sales….and when I say combo I mean a combo at a discounted price instead of buying the 360 and the moto x separate….sales GALORE!!!

          • Apple News

            News sites, like CNN are stating that the new iPhones will be delayed 3-6 weeks because of troubles producing the new sapphire touchscreens and the delay could push the phone into November. It sounded like the Larger model though, and the regular one may still be on track.

          • jacoby_happy

            A lot of people buy this useful machine Laptop+tablet 2-in-1
            ASUS Transformer Book T100TA-H1-GR 10.1″ Detachable 2-in-1
            Touchscreen Laptop, 32GB+500GB (Grey)
            http://j.mp/UEgzCU

          • TC Infantino

            Apple will patent “A time keeping device that is worn on the wrist, with the ability to connect in some fashion to a smartphone.”
            Then we can see a whole new round of patent wars.

        • Jon D.

          you must love big objects in your hand… I for one prefer a smaller phone.

          • Bryan Mills

            Cool, this is america. You’re free to do so.

          • Jon D.

            Cool story….same as your worthless opinion about competing with larger screens.

          • Bryan Mills

            Worthless? Moto hardly sold any Moto Xs.

          • Jon D.

            what did they spend on advertisement? How do you get paid to give your opinion??? lol I for one would never consider anything you could come up with.

          • Bryan Mills

            Your stupidity amazes me.

          • Jon D.

            see you just say crap like this and think you know everything.. lol have fun fooling yourself time for lunch

          • Bryan Mills

            It’s a known fact that the Moto X was a failure in sales compared to other OEMs.

          • Jon D.

            and its because the screen size? Wrong

          • Bryan Mills

            Didn’t say that.

          • Jon D.

            …….yes you did lol

          • Justin Strickland

            No, you didn’t say that, but it was your first and foremost consideration when you suggested that these devices would be in competition, and is infact your only focal point outside of the original moto-x’s sale records… Pretty sure you’re still just saying size matters, as you haven’t really said much else. You can’t expect people to read between the lines and then get all pedantic on them. It’s an inane way to make a case, and no one wants to hear it.

          • Cael

            I wouldn’t call it a failure. HTC First, HTC One and HTC One M8 were true failures.

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            The X, M7 and M8 didn’t perform nearly as well as hoped by either company. The Moto G is keeping Motorola afloat, but a solid flagship with a cohesive launch at an affordable price with no little to no compromise would be welcome. That said, with this kind of launch timing, they will have a rough time of it for sure.

          • Cael

            Seeing as it was the first flagship released under the new Motorola I’d call it a trial and error. If Motorola learned nothing from it and repeats the same thing in the beginning then yeah X+1 would be a failure flat out.
            HTC learns absolutely nothing. They deserve to be in their position.

          • M3D1T8R

            The M8 got nearly everything right that they got wrong with the M7. The only hing they didn’t is the average camera, and you could argue the device is slightly larger than would be ideal. That’s it. If not for those two slight issues I would have bought it for sure.

          • schlanz

            the camera is a pretty big deal to a lot of people

            I’d also argue the battery should have been improved, they are pretty much bottom of the pack with regard to battery capacity along with being non-removeable.

          • cns2007

            I hear such mixed opinions about the battery. My son’s battery is great, easily a full day’s use. He watches videos, surfs, calls pretty much all day. But some seem to have a very different experience.

          • Kenton Douglas

            They’re not doing that badly – back in the the top 10 OEMs ahead of HTC, Nokia, Blackberry, and a fraction behind Sony.

            http://motorola-blog.blogspot.co.uk/2014/07/some-changes-in-our-leadership.html

            http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            True, but that’s not on the back of the Moto X, it’s from the Moto G and E sales. Notice that they don’t mention the X in their blog, only the G and E.
            The X was a great V1 product, a proof of concept. The X+1 will be the true test of how much they learned, and if it was enough to compete at the top end with the iPhones and GS5s in mindshare. They have a slim opportunity here, and it is up to them not to waste it.

          • Kenton Douglas

            Yep. I think the only way back for them in terms of a global flagship is via a Nexus (6?). They don’t have the scale to promote a global high-end flagship. The problem with the X was distribution, or the lack of.

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            That’s exactly what I’m hoping Lenovo will provide. With Motorola’s design and support, and Lenovo’s scale, things could escalate quickly. If Motorola misses this opportunity, I’m not sure when they will have another one; burning one launch is understandable, burning two is tough to recover from; just ask HTC.

          • Kenton Douglas

            Spot on. With the new momentum of Moto (via the G and E) and Lenovo’s surge of the last 24 months, the combined company is a candidate for no.3 globally. Fingers crossed they get the new X right.

          • Franklin Ramsey

            Except, the deal hasn’t gone through yet.

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            I wouldn’t be surprised if they announced the completion of the acquisition alongside the X+1 or 360 launch. There’s been plenty of time for regulatory approval.

          • Kenton Douglas

            Correct. Do you think there’s a chance it won’t go through with the current political/post-Snowden climate?

          • Franklin Ramsey

            Honestly, I’d hazard a guess that it is being scrutinized by both the United States government and the Chinese government. With the Chinese government not wanting Apple or Windows rbased phones, nor technologies developed by USA companies in the Chinese government, I’d almost say they might block it. That might just be wishful thinking, though.

          • AbbyZFresh

            Not with the other Chinese OEMs bringing impressive hardware and specs for a cheaper price. And they’re gaining marketshare just as rapidly as Lenovo is right now. Lenovo not known for cheap products and Motorola already screwed up with the price of the first Moto X.

          • Kenton Douglas

            No, it’ll come down to brand presence/value. It’s the reason Motorola are resurgent in places like India. They don’t have to have the very cheapest prices, or the highest specs to compete – they are a trusted brand. The value of things like support (updates) is also important. I can’t really comment on how well the Chinese OEMs are doing, since sales figures EXCLUDING China seem to be pretty elusive. The size of the Chinese market distorts “global” market share figures. What are Lenovo and Xioami selling outside of China? Very little I would suggest – which is why the Motorola deal is very attractive to the former (who were also interested in buying Blackberry).

          • AbbyZFresh

            Lenovo has quite a phone presence in Africa and the Middle East. And Xiaomi recently launched their newest phone in India. And it’s selling out as fast as the Moto G did.

          • Kenton Douglas

            OK, but do you have sales figures?

            Take a look at:

            http://www.tech-thoughts.net/2014/08/xiaomi-leadership-demand-supply-mismatch.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Tech-thoughtsnet+%28Tech-Thoughts+%28Email%29%29#.U-WJANVX-U9

            then match those numbers against reported “global” sales/marketshare. Xiaomi might have sold out fast in India, but how many did they sell?

          • AbbyZFresh

            Lenovo has quite a phone presence in Africa and the Middle East. And Xiaomi recently launche their newest phone in India. And it’s selling out as fast as the Moto G did.

          • cns2007

            Exactly. No exclusives. Worldwide launch. Priced correctly. MUCH BETTER AD SUPPORT.

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            Exclusives aren’t bad, per se. A couple weeks, why not. 3 months? Ain’t nobody got time for that.

            And yes, the ad campaign of the century.

          • cns2007

            Oh agree, I wasn’t implying exclusives are bad business, but Moto should probably avoid that approach this time round.

          • T4rd

            Hmm, guess that’s why they turned a profit last quarter after several months/quarters of losses.

            http://www.androidcentral.com/htcs-finances-continue-stabilize-june

          • Cael

            Yet they’re going back to a loss.

          • M3D1T8R

            ??? I’d hardly call them that.

          • Jon D.

            compare iphone 5 sales vs note 2 and tell me size is all that matters

          • Bryan Mills

            Never said size is all that matters. A lot of people will switch to iPhone with the bigger size, along with their existing fanbase. Moto is also competing with Samsung and Sony.

          • RiceCake

            Agreed. One of the reason consumers swtch to android was screen size. So if Apple offers a similar size then many may switch back.

          • Cael

            “One of the reason consumers swtch to android was screen size. So if Apple offers a similar size then many Samsung users may switch back. ”
            Fixed it for you.

          • schlanz

            lately more apple to android switchers seem to be choosing the m8, at least in my area. I suspect they are enamored with build quality.

          • T4rd

            Link to sales numbers?

          • nosedive94

            Bryan is actually right. I mean, how many Moto X’s have you seen in the wild? I’ve seen maybe one or two. Meanwhile you see herds of Samsung and Apple phones, and a fair number of HTC devices (although those are pretty scarce as well). Motorola just doesn’t have the same clout with customers as it used to.

          • ckeegan

            I have an S4. I personally don’t care how many Xs Moto sold. The fact is that I’m sitting around with my thumb up my ass watching my wife’s X get updated WAY before my S4, and that pisses me off. Hence the reason that unless something else earth shattering gets announced in the next 7 weeks, I’ll have a Moto X2 (or whatever) in my pocket.

          • nosedive94

            I completely agree that the X is one of last year’s best phones. The fact is that it just wasn’t marketed well to the average consumer.

          • Jason B

            There were tons of commercial spots for its MotoMaker customizability, but most people using Samsung devices are already vested, so trying something new is harder – just like Apple conquests. It’s harder to get Apple users because they usually have multiple devices and are also fully vested in iTunes and other proprietary software.

            The S4 was thoroughly meh, but it sold because it was better than the S2s and S3s that previous customers had.

          • Justin Strickland

            Because everyone who wanted one also wanted an SD card slot.

          • Jon D.

            you know what they say about compensation

          • soreloser

            you lost this argument?

          • Jon Dick

            You’re kind of a jackass, aren’t you? I’m guessing you prefer smaller objects in your hand cuz that’s what you’re used to playing with? It’s not like it’s some hidden trait that consumers are preferring larger screens. If the crapple “rumors” are true, even they’re going to bigger screens and displays. And I doubt it’s because only Bryan Mills needs to “compensate.”

          • Mech_Engr_09

            Well that’s just becaue you’re used to small products in your hands.

        • NBMTX

          the new iPhone might be too big for a lot of people who perhaps haven’t realized how accustomed to the current device’s size they are. If the new iP6 is as slippery as the past ones, and Nexus 5 sized (with less depth), I won’t be surprised if we see a lot of broken, sapphire coated, displays in the future.

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            The casings that have leaked seem to have an almost sandcast texture to them. That should be enough to improve the grip. Besides that, being thin enough to slide under the first knuckle comfortably would yield a pretty secure grip. If there’s one thing I think we can all agree on, it’s that Apple’s hardware design is generally well thought-out.

          • Franklin Ramsey

            Which leads to such classic gems as Steve Jobs telling users they were holding their phones wrong…

          • Greyhame

            I had to +1 this. The arrogance of that man…

          • M3D1T8R

            Agreed. It’s going to really put that sapphire display, and their “seamless metal/glass” design to the test.

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          Motorola has some pretty huge cajones going after that particular comparison. Either it is the greatest subversion in the history of mobile tech, or an even greater folly than the MotoMaker mess from last year.

        • RaptorOO7

          But will apple actually release the iphone 5.5 that is rumored in September or will it just be the 4.7″ which will turn off those users who don’t want a “big phone” which is a joke given how tiny the iphone 5S is compared to real phones.

          • Cael

            I see a 5.5 iPhone becoming the next iPhone C.

      • Zach Cline

        Agreed…It’s going to be a huge Month for tech with the galaxy note 4 getting announced along with a new moto x possibly coming out , Not real interested in the new iPhone as it will just be a stretched out iPhone 5s.

    • Note4willbeTheBest

      Note4 will be the best, no other phone has a chance.

      • Cael

        Not if they slap another band aid on the back.

      • Richard Y is Awesome

        Oh look, Richard Yarrell has taken to posting anonymously!

    • epyon

      It’s a bold strategy, Cotton. Let’s see if it pays off.

    • Justin Strickland

      Yea, because so many people are ready to switch mobile OS for either of these devices. *eyeroll* Moto doesn’t care about iOS users, just like apple doesn’t care about Android users. The success of both devices is more about getting people to select them as an upgrade rather than as an OS.

      • Justtyn Hutcheson

        They both care greatly about each other’s users. Apple made a point at WWDC to talk about how many of their buyers were people switching from Android. The high-end of the smartphone market is fairly well saturated, so the easiest way to gain marketshare is to take it by convincing the other’s users how much greener the grass is on your side of the fence.

        • Justin Strickland

          Yea, so Tim cook cares about it, but the state he presented don’t even connect to the points he tries to make. He basically just assumed every new user of iOS switched from Android and none of them were we users of dumb phones or a first phone buyer. He doesn’t come up with this stuff to make the grass look greener, he does it to make the other grass angry. He’s just trolling at this point with the whole “toxic hellstew” label. Frankly it’s pathetic of him to be so blatant about this garbage.

    • Chris VanAnden

      Agreed, I’m not sure why anyone – maybe other than samsung – would try to compete with an apple release at the moment.

    • IHATEHIPSTERSSS

      Nothing can compete with apple

    • umar

      well the official moto360 page says a coming summer 2014. so im sure by now we all know that september does not fall in summer. expect a release anyday now
      :)

  • Jeremy Miller

    SOO this week at the other carriers then?

    • Cael

      Verizon loves Motorola. It being released so late is strictly on Moto.

      • William_Morris

        Actually it’s more like Verizon loves when Motorola continually supplies their “Droid” line. They are much less inclined to push the Moto X.

        • Cael

          Them being less inclined to push the Moto X than their Droids has nothing to do with the release date though.
          They still gave the Moto X a bigger display than they’ve given HTC.

          PLUS the Moto X wasn’t delayed for months on Verizon like the M7 was because Verizon had the Droid DNA to sell out first.

        • Big EZ

          Did you notice how well Verizon played with the Moto X last year? That’s because of the Ultra and Maxx. Did you see the leaks of the XT1096 and XT1097? That’s most likely this year’s Ultra and Maxx. The Moto X+1 will be nearly identical, just like last year. Verizon will play nice because they are getting theirDroids.

  • Mike

    But, I want it now….

    • Justtyn Hutcheson

      Okay Veruca, we’ll drop by the Motorola offices tomorrow….

      • Mike

        Thank you!