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Is “Flounder” the Codename for the Next Nexus? (Updated)

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The folks over at MYCE discovered a potential codename for an unreleased Google device that recently made its way through the Chromium issue tracker. There is a build fingerprint in the listing that mentions two words – “volantis” and “flounder.” If you have followed any of our Nexus coverage over the years, the name “flounder” should stand out as being significant, since Google tends to give its Nexus products fish-related codenames. Is this the next Nexus? Let’s talk about it. 

If you look back at history, then history will tell you that a reference to a Google product with a codename related to a fish is more than likely a Nexus. We have seen Google use toro (Verizon Galaxy Nexus), maguro (GSM Galaxy Nexus), hammerhead (Nexus 5), mantaray (Nexus 10), flo (Nexus 7, fish in Finding Nemo), mako (Nexus 4), and grouper (Nexus 7). This is how Google does it.

Flounder is new, though. There isn’t a current Nexus product that operates under this codename, yet the Chromium issue tracker has a device from Google with this name attached.

We should also look at “volantis,” the other name attached here. While this isn’t a fish-related name, it could be the product or software codename for this device. In other words, all Nexus products fall under two codenames – the device name and the device’s product/software name. For example, the Nexus 4 had a device name of “mako” and a software name of “occam.” The 2013 Nexus 7 has a device name of “flo” and a software name of “razor.” With “flounder,” we could have a software name of “volantis.”

While this doesn’t confirm anything at this time, we do have a new nicknames to keep an eye on. With that firmly planted in your brain, now you get to speculate on what it could be. Is it a new Nexus 10, a Nexus 8 or the Nexus 6?

Update:  As renegad3 noted in the comments, the Chromium issue listing mentions exact device info:

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:
Device: Volantis
Build: AAV36B
Repro: 1/3

So we should keep both “volantis” and “flounder” on our lists to track. Also, going forward, consider them to be the same device.

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Via:  Chromium Issue Tracker | MYCE
  • axi0m

    Although I would love for it to be the Nexus 6 phone, it is more than likely a Nexus 10 refresh, as this has been in talks for a while.

  • Kenny Strawn

    Let’s also not forget, anything that isn’t a name for a shark (which “mako” and “hammerhead” both are) is more likely a tablet than a phone, based on that pattern…

  • Anthony Johnson

    Is that
    means they are hinting for the launch of Nexus 6? It seems there is a hidden
    code under this “Flounder”. Although, it is not the name of fish! So is it mean
    silver series of Nexus? Well, everything will be cleared within next 6 months. I
    have Nexus 5 from last 6 months and like all of its features such as 2.3GHz
    snapdragon 800 processor, 2GB RAM, and 2300mAh battery that once fully
    charged on wireless charging pad runs all day long.

  • Elliot

    Maybe…That build is a bit eh, AP calculator dates it to August 5th, 2009 :P

  • Spencer Walker

    Too big take the new 7 shrink the bezels and do a 7.5 inch screen

  • Chris Hughes

    And so it begins…The next great hype-beasting of our time.

    Let the rumors, build up, speculation, and complaints about delays of a device that has yet to be announced begin.

  • droider

    The nexus 10 was basically the perfect form factor in a tablet. Plus devs love it.

  • Chris Dooley

    That is the simplest explaination and therefor the best hopefully the new Nexi make their the debut soon. Points to anyone who understands the first sentence in relation to the prior gen Nexi software code names.

  • FarmerTechno

    Beta Volantis is the brightest star in the southern constellation Piscis Volans, “The Flying Fish.”

    • Jeff Kang

      Tim Cook compared the Microsoft Surface to a car that flies and floats (less likely to do all things well).

      A flying fish would fly and float.

      It has a more narrow 4:3 aspect ratio, which is more suitable for general work (reading, writing, browsing, programming, image editing, etc.).

      This is opposed to a wider 16:9 aspect ratio, which is more suitable for watching videos.

      (In the “Google I/O 2013 – Cognitive Science and Design” talk, the speaker says that experiments show that people can be faster with reading longer lines, but a lot of people prefer, and are more comfortable with reading shorter and more narrow lines: youtube/z2exxj4COhU?t=23m29s).

      Google announced at I/O that Android apps will be coming to Chrome OS.

      The specs on the tablet (Tegra K1 64-bit) are powerful enough to handle Chrome OS.

      Android Police reports that Volantis may come with official accessories like a keyboard case, and keyboards are currently and mainly used for Chrome OS, not Android.

      It’s pure speculation, but maybe Volantis could be a device that dual-boot’s Chrome OS and Android, and if not, it could function in a hybrid fashion like the Microsoft Surface?

  • Akashshr

    Yeah, LG didnt make the cut for the Nexus 6 (Phone)
    Its gone to Sony! Dreams come true eh!

  • Al-Burrit0

    Hopefully a nexus 8

  • http://www.failuretodream.com/ lostboardmayhem

    Maybe the “volantis” is an Nexus TV box since it is listed as a device, that’s what I am hoping for

  • Gr8Ray

    “Flounder” is what the sales will do.

  • creed

    Please be the Nexus 6, GSM & CDMA for Verizon. Please?!

  • LisaPNevarez

    It’s obviously the HTC-made Nexus 8 since HTC has been floundering in the marketplace as of late… If it’s Tegra 4-based then that almost certainly makes it a tablet instead of a smartphone. http://num.to/4788-7890-5061

  • Rand Paul 2016

    Volantis sounds like VoLTE

  • Paul

    I need one last Nexus phone before Silver kicks in. My GNex is starting to feel a little bit dated…

    • Hershel

      won’t happen

      • Paul

        Well that’s not very optimistic.

  • Berto Maia

    I recall grouper and talapia having to do with the Nexus 7.

  • Ryanmax

    Maybe its new product name is Flounder-Nexus or Nexus-Flo-8

  • http://rootzwiki.com/news Max M.

    I feel like Flounder has been rumored before.

  • hkklife

    It’s obviously the HTC-made Nexus 8 since HTC has been floundering in the marketplace as of late… If it’s Tegra 4-based then that almost certainly makes it a tablet instead of a smartphone.

    • Hershel

      HTC made the first nexus.

  • Colts5609

    Its about time we get some legit Nexus 6 rumors flowing. Since it is probably the only phone I will consider upgrading my N5 too.

  • TSY87

    I really hope its a nexus 10… i’ve been waiting

  • Nayners

    Also noteworthy, build AAV36B was built May 6, 2014, and is a new version of android. This is ‘L’ ladies and gents (4.5? 5.0?).

    • Drago

      If it was L wouldn’t it have an L in the build number? That’s usually how it works at least.

      Of course maybe test builds don’t follow that. I’m just thinking out loud.

  • JWellington

    Good Flounder is one of the best tasting fish. Goes swell with White Wine.

  • Andrew M.

    Some juicy tidbits…..

    Summary: Android L uses Linux kernel 3.10, is 64-bit, and ART will (probably) be the default runtime. Also flounder uses a Tegra chip(probably Tegra 4). Finally, references to flounder have existed in the source since February,.

    https://android-review.googlesource.com/#/q/status:merged+project:kernel/common+branch:android-3.10

    https://android-review.googlesource.com/#/c/81232/

    https://android-review.googlesource.com/#/c/89401/

    • Drago

      Hmm. Isn’t it more likely to be the 64 bit Tegra K1?

      If they’re launching 64 bit support, might as well use a 64 bit chip. Just a guess.

      • Justin W

        I would agree with your thoughts on that, especially with the Tegra 4 approaching a year in age. It would only make sense for the OS that supports a 64bit architecture to launch with said architecture, which would currently only be the K1.

        Edit: and the Apple chip, but that’s not happening anytime soon.

  • GreeKNastY

    if its not on vzw then i could care less about flounder and crabs

    • Droidzilla

      Just for you.

  • Michael Nichols

    I’m still waiting for FACKWORS to be a codename!!

    • http://www.ytmnd.com MH

      Hypebeast Engage!

    • J. Gilbertson

      Dead horse is dead

  • Andrew M.

    The device branch references Android 5.0. Check the build fingerprint, notice the L, then check this.

    http://www.droid-life.com/2013/09/17/google-nexus-5-appears-at-gfxbench-with-hammerhead-codename-1080p-display-and-snapdragon-800/

    This is decent evidence that Android 5.0 might be released at I/O. There might be clues in Google’s source tree, I might try to sleuth later.

  • Pigi

    Maybe you can find answers on http://www.androidbestial.com

    • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

      Maybe we won’t click your spammy link.

  • Derek Traini

    The build finger print for flounder running L-release is:
    Build fingerprint: ‘google/volantis/flounder:L/AAV36B/1156106:userdebug/dev-keys’

    Also in the chromium bug reports is other nexus devices with hints of L release in the build fingerprint.

  • flosserelli

    “Flounder” is appropriate if the rumors of the Nexus program getting axed/replaced are true.

  • renegad3

    guess everyone missed:

    ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:
    Device: Volantis
    Build: AAV36B
    Repro: 1/3

  • Daeshaun Griffiths

    I”m in for a new tablet. that project hera concept would look good on tablets.

  • Chris King

    A leak right before Google I/o classic

  • mcdonsco

    If it is, its horrible.

    • Tony Byatt

      Why?

      • Drooblz

        Must not have liked the Little Mermaid.

        • Animal House

          Dorfman, I’ve given this a lot of thought. From now on your name is Flounder.

      • mcdonsco

        Here’s why (seriously, no one else thought this?):

        flounder[ floun-der ]
        verb (used without object)
        1. to struggle with stumbling or plunging movements (usually followed by about, along, on, through, etc.): He saw the child floundering about in the water.
        2. to struggle clumsily or helplessly: He floundered helplessly on the first day of his new job.

      • Allen Cross
  • Woodhouse

    Please give us Volantis as a phone name. ASOIAF fans unite!

    • Defenestratus

      First of its name!!!

    • Pigi

      Maybe you can find answer on http://www.androidbestial.com

      • Blue Sun

        Spam?

      • Arthur Dent

        Maybe you should stop posting spammy links, a-hole.

    • cizzlen

      Introducing Volantis… by Google… damn son now that would be hype.

      • Woodhouse

        Give it a crazy long battery life and make some good What Is Dead May Never Die and Valar Morghulis jokes in the marketing

  • kamkid279

    If you type in the presumable build number “AAV36B” into the Android Build Number Date Calculator found here: http://www.androidpolice.com/android-build-number-date-calculator/

    The result is: Android 1.0/No Name, dated at approximately May 6, 2014.

  • Keyan X

    HYPEBEAST!

  • sc0rch3d

    nexus 8?

    • http://www.droid-life.com Kellex B

      Have seen that mentioned, but it could be anything. Wouldn’t jump to a specific name just yet.

      • sc0rch3d

        challenge the community to find the correlation between codename and model assigned. very unlikely that big G picks names out of a hat.

      • Kevin

        Just like you shouldn’t jump to Nexus 6.

      • michael arazan

        Still waiting on the Google devices that were promised to be in partnership with Verizon this year too. I hope it’s a phone again

    • ThomasMoneyhon

      its not a 10 sadly. we can weigh heavily against that.

  • aBabyPenguin

    “Volantis”? Google’s got some A Song of Ice and Fire fans :) I like it!

  • Mordecaidrake

    New Nexus 10 please so I can finally replace my OG Nexus 7.

    • ThomasMoneyhon

      highly unlikely. The 10 wasn’t the hit that the phone and 7 where. most likely a new phone as the current tablet still holds its own well.

      • The Narrator

        The Nexus devices aren’t sold for profit.

        • Joe W

          No, but they ARE sold for Google play exposure. The goal is still sell as many as possible.

        • j

          No, but they’re certainly sold to sell devices.. they are not sold to not sell devices, so a device that doesn’t sell won’t be sold. get it? got it? good :)

          • Rx7freek

            Chromebook pixel -_-

        • http://www.ytmnd.com MH

          Believe it or not, there is a profit margin on them. Slim, but it’s there. The 10 was just the wrong form factor and received little developer love.

          • Braden Abbott

            Exactly, I can see that the 2012 Nexus 7 might have been a loss leader at first but now that they are sold in places like Walmart there has to be profit in there somewhere or else they would still be available on play store only.

        • Braden Abbott

          I remember Google specifically mentioned the Nexus 5 as having a positive impact on their profit during their earnings call for Q4 2013

    • Rexin

      Help you cand find on androidbestial . com

    • BTLS

      Me too, especially since mine will not F’n charge past 50%…

      • Mordecaidrake

        And mine is so painfully slow.

  • Shamu

    Never had flounder before,,,Serve me up some!!!