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What We Know About the Motorola-Lenovo Deal (Updated)

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With the Lenovo-Motorola deal now official from all parties, we thought a quick recap of everything was in store. Since this move has clearly brought out plenty of your emotions, especially when it comes to thinking about your next smartphone purchase, we are sure you want answers. While we won’t have them all, and should know more tomorrow after Google’s earnings call, we do have plenty to share. 

Quick bullets:

  • Lenovo will pay “about” $2.91 billion for Motorola, including $1.41 billion will be paid at close, comprised of $660 million in cash and $750 million in Lenovo ordinary shares. The remaining $1.5 billion will be paid in the form of a 3-year promissory note.
  • Google is keeping a “vast majority” of Motorola’s patents to help “defend the entire Android ecosystem.”
  • Lenovo will receive a license to the patent portfolio that Google is keeping.
  • Lenovo will still receive over 2,000 patent assets, along with the Motorola Mobility brand and trademark portfolio.
  • Lenovo intends to keep Motorola’s “distinct brand identity.”
  • So what happens to the name “Motorola”? We don’t know just yet. With that said, after Lenovo bought IBM’s PC business, they certainly don’t call them “IBM Thinkpads” anymore. If you want a Thinkpad today, it’s a Lenovo Thinkpad.
  • Can a Lenovo “Moto X” or Lenovo “DROID ULTRA” carry weight with smartphone consumers in the U.S.? That’s what we are about to find out. They certainly know what they are doing on the PC side, having led the PC sales category for some time.
  • Lenovo is going to try to scale Motorola into a global player with their “experience in hardware” and “global reach.” As of right now, Motorola has its Moto X in North America, Brazil, and parts of Europe. It has the Moto G in a number of other countries, but the major global presence is not there.
  • As Page mentioned in his blog post, the deal has yet to be approved in the U.S. or China, and even if it does get approval, will take all sorts of time before that happens. Remember that Google announced plans to acquire Motorola in August of 2011, but that the deal wasn’t approved until the following May. For now, it is business as usual for Motorola and Google.
  • 2014 should still be exactly what you were hoping it would be with Motorola doing the next line-up of phones to follow the Moto X. Larry Page even said he is “very excited” about the smartphone lineup for this year.
  • MotoMaker – staying or going? After sitting down for an interview with Motorola execs at CES, I got the feeling that MotoMaker and customization is here to stay. Well, at least for now. Motorola more than likely already has their 2014 roadmap ironed out, which would include MotoMaker. Once this deal is finalized and they start thinking about 2015, anything goes.
  • Page said that this move will help Google to “drive innovation across the Android ecosystem, for the benefit of smartphone users everywhere.” Is it just me, or does that come across as, “We got rid of Motorola so other OEMs could stop worrying about us owning them and focus on making great Android handsets.”?

Updates: A conference call with Lenovo is apparently going on, Re/code has the play-by-play, some of which we have included below.

  • Dennis Woodside (maybe other members of the executive team) will be a part of management, at least for the transition.
  • Chicago HQ of Motorola will stick around for now.
  • There are no current plans to lay anyone off – Lenovo likes the talent that Motorola possesses.
  • Lenovo wouldn’t commit to the Texas Moto X plant, saying that it will evaluate to see what the most cost effective way to win the market is.
  • Lenovo thinks it is in prime position to soon sell 100 million smartphones.
  • Regina Dugan’s advanced research unit (electronic tattoo stuff) was not a part of the acquisition.
  • The Advanced Technology Group (including Project Ara) are staying with Google, as a part of the Android team.

At this point, I think I’m trying to remain calm and positive over the situation. Lenovo is a well recognized PC brand who is looking to acquire a well-recognized U.S. smartphone brand. Can those two mesh and create a smartphone arm that can compete with Samsung and Apple? I hope so. Is it better to have Lenovo behind you than Google? I’d argue that it’s probably not, though Lenovo is the real deal in terms of a tech company. It could have been worse. It could have been Huawei or ZTE or something.

I’d imagine that we’ll know a lot more tomorrow after Google’s Q4 earnings call.

After reading comments from all parties, are you feeling any better?

  • JT

    Everybody needs to calm down. This nexus killing and samsung taking over android is all speculation right now. Rumors. Nothing is confirmed.

    And for the rest of 2014, Motorola is a Google company.
    Just let 2014 play out and see what happens.

  • bjssp

    I was just waiting for them to release a slightly bigger phone so I could get all of the Moto X features. I hope I can still get this.

    • flosserelli

      I was also hoping for a larger Moto X, but not anymore. This announcement killed that dream.

      • bluebanzai

        Cough Maxx Cough + battery

  • Tom Z

    This is kind of sad… Motorola was my hometown cell phone manufacturer. I sure hope that doesn’t go away. There is pride in the Motorola name in the Chicagoland area. My first cell phone was a Motorola flip.

  • Joshua Hoffman

    I wasn’t able to get an X on T-mobile last year so i had to settle for the Nexus 4. My girlfriend just bought an X and i’ve been counting the days until i can get the X… I’m not sure i want one now, i was so into it because of the Google backing and i’m not sure what to expect from the new ownership.. The Nexus 4 is the only non moto phone i’ve owned, went from the droid, to the 3, to the RAZR. I just hope i can return.. RIP…

  • Geoffrey Gunter

    Okay so as much as I hate using memes to express myself this seriously is what I’m thinking.

    http://www.bstrader.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/you-were-the-chosen-one.jpg

    • Suman Gandham

      Yes :(

  • SmokeNMirrors

    My eyes are dry but I’m still crying inside.

  • Trysta

    What google could do (to ease the ill will they’ve just created as well as to give lenovo a boost in the US market) is pick the new lenovo/motorola for the next nexus phone. Aka work with lenovo the way they’ve worked with other OEMs so that motorola doesn’t just die or transform into a horrible bloated and easily forgotten budget offering. I think it would be a really useful bridge to keep current moto fans and the tech media still interested in this company after the sale.

  • skzion

    Truly, I HATED my Lenovo laptop, and I would never buy a Lenovo phone. I also prefer not to buy Chinese because China is an enemy state.

    But I’m not religious about phones. I will only buy unbloated Android. And given Samsung’s latest shenanigans with international travel, i seriously doubt I would ever buy a Samsung phone.

    • Tim242

      International travel? As long as you activate the phone in your home country, there is no issue.

  • OGDroid

    I think Motorola is one of the most iconic brands in American history. I was heartbroken when IBMs sold their PC line to Lenovo but at least the ThinkPad brand lived on (and not just in name). Maybe I’m crazy, but from my myopic American perspective, Motorola is a better brand than Lenovo, and if I were in charge I would rebrand all of Lenovo to Motorola (Motorola ThinkPad, etc.). I hope Motorola doesn’t go the path of Digital Equipment (DEC), Comapq, and Tandem (thanks HP).

  • Keep Motorola USA

    Petition to Block loss of Control of US Company to China: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/block-sale-motorola-lenovo-google/Gr170bGy

  • Cole

    The only thing that bothers me about this is whether the Moto x will still get updates in the future as fast and consistent as they have been. Reason I got a moto x was because it was a Google company and very close to stock. I’m on Verizon so I can’t get the nexus 5.

  • http://www.twitter.com/nblufire12 Nathan Patel

    Motorola really made no dent in the smartphone business… The HTC, Samsung, and LG flagships will still be great. Also for all the crying Nexus fans who don’t want it to go -> They kept trying to cut corners to make it cheap. I’d rather pay 50 to 100 more bucks to have the PERFECT Nexus. No crappy speakers or crappy camera. AKA a real flagship. Oh and being on the nations largest carrier would help too. Endrant

  • Jason B

    To me, it seems wise to keep the Motorola name for smartphones. Lenovo doesn’t have the image to sell like a Motorola phone. They can then either add “by Lenovo” after the the product name, like Motorola Moto X by Lenovo, or just do what Google did: Motorola, a Lenovo brand (or company if they truly keep it a fully owned subsidiary).

  • Raven65

    Very, very disappointing news! …and on the eve of the delivery of my new Moto X Developer Edition purchased in the big sale on Monday too. Looks like I may own the only smartphone model ever built in the USA. I bet Lenovo will shut down that Texas facility ASAP. Uggh… the future was looking so bright for Moto. DAMMIT GOOGLE… YOU SOLD MOTO OUT TO THE CHINESE!!! Man… makes me want to return my Moto X and go buy an iPhone!

    • DoctorJB

      More like sold it out to the Koreans (Samsung).

      • Adrynalyne

        Lenovo isn’t Korean…

        • DoctorJB

          Samsung (whom Google is really “selling out” to) is. Lenovo may have put the money on the table but Samsung is the one forcing the deal.

          • Adrynalyne

            Ah, I get ya now….

            Yeah, if thats the reason, what a load of crap.

  • Turb0wned

    Pretty damn pissed at google.

  • Todd Bettenhausen

    Gutted… Google and Motorola were on such an exciting trajectory and now this… If the Samsung deal led to this, well, F U Samsung.

  • AndroidUser00110001

    Well that just sucks!

  • Jimmy Debacher

    I think that people should sign a partition to show Google that we want Motorola to stay!!

  • Xiria Seven

    Glad I don’t own a Moto!

  • MikeSaver

    FUUUUUCCCCKKKKKKK

  • guestshowhost

    “Lenovo Droid 6″ Nooope. Doesn’t sound very pleasant

    • WickedToby741

      How about ThinkDroid?

  • quora

    Let’s hope this doesn’t go the way of the ThinkPad. My company has stopped issuing ThinkPads. Also, I see a lot less ThinkPads nowadays. Whenever I headed to Silicon Valley for work, I see less and less ThinkPads at the San Jose airport. I used to see a lot. There must be a reason why businesses are moving away from ThinkPads.

  • Trophynuts

    lol nice liquidation of all those Moto X phones on sale Monday and 70$ till V Day…i wonder how cheap they will be in two weeks. I hope they drop to 199. Then i will buy one.

  • MrT

    I just bought a new laptop, and purposely avoided Lenovo. I don’t trust them because I’ve read various reports about them having hardware and software backdoors built into their products. Just got a Moto a few weeks ago, might be the last Moto and Android I run. I am not a fan of Apple, but I want some respect on my privacy and I just don’t get that from Google or Android.

    • psuturtle

      This comment is filled with ignorance. If Lenovo can sell to the US government (which we do), I think it’s safe to say your privacy is just fine….at least as safe as it can be with the NSA around. I would love to see what “evidence” you have to backup the claims of hardware and software backdoors.

  • the dealer

    This is not about the US this is about China and Google giving an insider who will sell high end phones to compete with apple

  • Dan

    Have no clue in hell why this news is making all sorts of people swear off Android altogether and planning to jump ship over to Apple.

    • LaFave07

      Fragmentation. Thought Motorola was going to get rid of a lot of it but I was mistaken.

    • Jimmy Debacher

      I agree. Redicules.

    • Kelly

      I’m not anywhere near swearing off Android (where would I go? I don’t like iOS’s restrictive approach and no other platform is really truly viable, at least at this point), but I have to admit this does dampen my feelings toward Google. It’s just hard not to feel tricked. Motorola felt so much like “a Google company”–the logo even said as much–so for them to dump them so unceremoniously seems cold. I think back to how many times Woodside talked in interviews about Google as a “long-term investor” that let Motorola take risks and innovate, and now it seems like that was never really the plan at all. I’m very plugged in to the Google ecosystem (Android user since OG Droid, All Access subscriber, regular Play Movies & TV patron, Chromecast owner, Chrome/Gmail/Drive/Calendar user, etc.) and I love their products, but they really have issues with customer relations.

      • anezarati

        i wonder how kellen feels about this. just a couple of weeks ago he was getting interviews with moto execs, talking about the future of motomaker, project ara, moto x and g, etc. not sure how long the plan has been to sell moto to lenovo, but you have to think the execs had some idea and that they were just bs-ing with kellen.

    • Turb0wned

      I can answer this. Where do people that want updates and support go now? The Nexus looks to be getting killed off also. The Moto X was doing what no other manufacturer has for Android. We got Kit Kat before the Nexus 4 and 7 for crying out loud!

      I am truly considering the new iPhone if this is the case and the iPhone has a 4.7or bigger screen. And no, rooting is not an option for me. I’m done with rooting, never thought about rooting my Moto X for the first time in years.

      • grumpyfuzz

        If they kill off the nexus, I don’t know what I’d buy lol… Though it doesn’t make sense to me that since they launch a nexus with a new version of android, would they just say introducing android 5.0/4.5 or whatever it is, and not even have anything running on it? That wouldn’t make sense to me, but who knows what will happen.

        • anezarati

          the answer to that question is Google Play Edition devices.

          • Turb0wned

            But you have to pay $650-$700 for those…..

          • anezarati

            yeah, thats what sucks about this whole situation. as a person on a prepaid, no contract cell plan, my worst fear is that cheap off contract, high quality devices will become non existant with the end of the nexus program

          • grumpyfuzz

            I just read an article about that, man I really hope that doesn’t happen.

  • ZeeX1

    So, to Google, Nest is more valuable than Moto??! They paid 3.2bn for Nest in CASH!!!

    • Tech Geek

      After this fuckup deal selling out Moto…Google can stick there Nest thermostat up their ass! Not in my Home ever.

  • bakdroid

    All I have to say is this…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMCge2kFNhk

  • Knlegend1

    What the hell is Verizon going to do lol?

  • sdsdsdf

    Is this good or bad news for a motorola nexus?

    • anezarati

      dont worry the nexus program is going to be killed off thanks to the deal between google and samsung.

      • jimt

        LG made the Nexus 5, maybe this means we will get a moto nexus. Sammy doesn’t have much to say I hope. I wouldn’t buy a nexus with an apple button.

  • sdsdsdf

    lenovo requires a signature on all deliveries, even $15 computer speakers.

  • psuturtle

    If anybody’s interested, the deal includes ~3500 employees with 2800 of those being in the US. Not sure if that info was posted elsewhere.

    Lenovo as a whole has made over $5B in acquisitions in the last 10 days (IBM server being the other).

  • Jonathan

    Anyone with a Lenovo PC, is it filled with bloatware? Does it come with Best Buy and Walmart apps?

    I think this could be good for Motorola, as long as Lenovo doesn’t undo their recent progress. As far as PC manufacturers, Lenovo is pretty good. I would die if Dell bought Moto. I hope the Moto X isn’t the last Motorola phone I’m ever excited about.

    • psuturtle

      There is “bloatware” in Lenovo’s software images. At least on the PC side, it’s all removable. The exact amount of bloatware changes quite often depending on what contracts are in place. Margins are so slim on PCs, you almost have to have that monetization in order to compete.

    • DoctorJB

      Had a Lenovo Ideapad android tablet and it was full of bloat. It came with over 30 preinstalled apps including a Lenovo market. Worst thing is that they have multiple versions of the same bloat on the device.

    • Adrynalyne

      Their workstations aren’t.

      Well, they have a grip of Lenovo utilities, but they are useful. I only had to remove Norton and put my own AV on it.

    • jimt

      I’m using a lenovo thinkpad at the moment. There is no bloat and I can delete anything that I want, if I wanted to. Windows 7 is windows 7. Don’t know about win8 which I won’t use or buy ever. Do not like the big square tiles.

    • michael

      yeah, let’s help our communists friends from oversea. /sarcasm off

      Apple is the only american phone manufacturer anymore. Europe just have nokia (accquired by mircosoft, so somehow american)

      Pretty damn sad

      • traumadog

        “Apple is the only american phone manufacturer anymore. ”

        Have you ever read the back of an iPhone?

        You do know where it’s made, right?

        • michael

          yeah, but it was at least designed in the USA. Now it is all made in Asia. Like throwing away our economy.

          • traumadog

            a) there’s no saying that the new Motorola phones will be designed in China. Lenovo has a US headquarters and R&D center in North Carolina.

            b) the iPhone has to-date used Samsung chips – not a typical “US company”. And if you want the dozens of engineers that work on iPhone production to count against the thousands of workers that actually build it, then fine. But I’d also point out that you can’t count the software designers in that total – the Android software designers would still be the same, and in the US like the iOS designers.

            c) you can’t complain about “throwing away our economy” when people insist on letting the free-market work. Instituting controls on the economy is simply un-American. And this is an example of the free market at work.

      • Adrynalyne

        Yeah, accept that part of where it is made in China.

  • LaFave07

    This is pretty disappointing. I was looking forward to getting a Motorola device this year for the great features and knowing I’d get prompt updates. After my last year and a half with a Galaxy SIII and Note II I can confidently say I’m going back to an iPhone.

    Android has some good but the uncertainty of the OS and hardware is enough for me to not stay. I shouldn’t have to worry about getting updates for a phone or rooting and installing ROMs. I shouldn’t have to worry about an app or a game “not compatible with my device” when it’s barely over a year old (GTA San Andreas). IPhone isn’t perfect either but at least I know what I’m getting.

    Unfortunately fragmentation always has and always will really hurt Android. I thought Motorola was going to help finally end it but I was wrong.

  • HolyFreakingCrap

    I was saving up to buy a couple Moto X’s. Not any more.

    • Jimmy Debacher

      Its not Motorola’s fault. It would be Google who signed them over to Lenovo. Everything still goes to Moto/Google. It will be awhile before Motorola be owned by Lenovo.

    • EricMayBell

      The acquisition won’t happen for at least another year plus its going to be a slow transition after that. I think you’d be safe with the moto x still. It truly is an amazing phone

  • Jimmy Debacher

    Whoever got their Moto x’s, you might wanna keep the last piece of Moto/Google device ever made. This maybe arguably the closest phone to our beloved OG Droid.

    • jimt

      Have you heard of the Nexus 5?

  • Riz Virani

    Project Ara staying with Google..

  • el oso borracho

    Good. Lenovo has some of the highest build quality laptops on the market. Maybe they can get a proper camera sensor in a phone now.

  • jer85008

    While I don’t think Lenovo is dumb enough to screw up what has turned out to be the best lineup of Android phones over the last year (Moto X / Moto G), this is extremely disappointing. I don’t see a long-term future for manufacturing in the US once the deal is done. What’s the point? Forget that Moto Nexus too, will never happen now.

    • psuturtle

      Lenovo does have some manufacturing in the US for other products, so I wouldn’t say it’s out of the question. The Lenovo US headquarters is in NC, as is their US manufacturing, so maybe they didn’t like the idea of adding a plant in Texas. I wouldn’t completely rule out MFG in the US since Apple is making a big push for it as well. Just probably won’t happen in the Texas plant.

  • madeinamerica

    Like I got yelled at for posting before, Google hates it’s customers.. You are nothing but data to them. So now is it time for real American cowbird lime m$ and apple?

  • kg2128

    Wow I am surprised and feeling smug at the same time. Maybe the Moto X wasn’t so great and wasn’t selling so well after all. So many Motorola fanboys made it sound like the Moto X was some revolutionary device (it wasn’t) and was changing the game (it didn’t). All reports suggested the Moto X was not selling well and it seems like they were accurate. I definitely didn’t hate Motorola, just the idea of some low-mid tier device priced and marketed like a high end device (they lowered the price later but too little too late). Motomaker was a nice idea but also a gimmick that didn’t make up for the noticeably outdated hardware. I was hoping they would learn from the mistakes that were the droid ultra/moto x/droid mini/etc. and then come back with a real smartphone that people would actually want, but I guess it was too much work even for Google.

    • Kelly

      “…and feeling smug”

      Well, at least you said it before anyone else could.

      Moto X was never a low-mid tier device etc. etc. this argument is tired and has been retreaded time and time again. You’re probably right about the sales, but everything else about this comment is colossally wrong.

    • sirmeili

      Just because something wasn’t widely adopted doesn’t mean it is a better choice. BetaMax VS. VHS for example. The Moto X showed that a device could get by with lower specs and perform just as well as some of the higher spec’d phones. I have yet to see any lag on my Moto X and the extra features are ones I will dearly miss if they go away in future phones (Active Display, touchless control, Moto Assist).

      The ultimate factor for most people should be “Do these 2 devices perform on the same level despite specs, and if so, does that mean I should pay any more or less for the lower spec’d version?”. AFter all, that additional cost could have gone to the extra processors that allow for battery optimization and touchless control.

      For years, Apple Macs (Before the intel switch) seemed to operate a lot better for the specs of the machines compared to the PCs of the time (a 350mhz Mac seemed as good as a 450mhz PC if not better). Now I’m no Apple fanboy (don’t own a Mac, iPhone or iPad and never plan to), but back then Apples got away with lower spec’d machines that outperformed their PC counterparts and charged MORE for them. Motorola is doing the same with the MotoX, but at least they are charging the same (and now even lower).

      Lets also not forget that some of that cost was because of US Manufacturing, which IMO, did add to the cost, and I feel it was worth it (to me).

      • kg2128

        I have no problem with people who want to get by with lower specs, I realize not everyone wants the best hardware or even the second best hardware. But your post is another example of the Moto X fanboys I was referring to. You own one and love it obviously but then you imply that the Moto X performs the same as other high end phones. That is where I find it ridiculous. It’s the car equivalent of, “my 4 cylinder feels nice and I don’t need more power, so it’s just as good as any v-8.” And yes absolutely the Moto X should have been cheaper regardless of where it was made, because the hardware was/is inferior. I know the cost of making it was close to other high end phones, but again a low-mid tier device costing that much to make is a failure. The apple example doesn’t help your case, because that was also fan boys exaggerating things. If the Macs before intel chips (i remember they had Motorola and some other chips in there) performed so well like you and others believed they obviously would have stuck with it and it would have forced Microsoft/Intel to adapt. That never happened, just like the Moto X never became a success.

        • sirmeili

          “I have no problem with people who want to get by with lower specs, I realize not everyone wants the best hardware or even the second best hardware”

          Thanks for recognizing that. Now maybe you should recognize that “better specs” do not always equal “better peformance”. It’s fact, not fiction and it is widely accepted in other areas of technology.

          “But your post is another example of the Moto X fanboys I was referring to.”

          So you assume I am a fanboy because I like my phone? You seem to be a “specs” fanboy. You naturally assume that better specs equals a better experience that that is definitely not always the case. Have you used a MotoX and compared them? I don’t see much performance difference if any at all.

          “You own one and love it obviously but then you imply that the Moto X performs the same as other high end phones. That is where I find it ridiculous.”

          See, that doesn’t mean I didn’t do my research. You seem to assume that because I own a Moto X that I’ve never used any other phone. You know what they say about assuming don’t you? I’m sorry you find it ridiculous and if you in fact have NOT used a Moto X I find you ridiculous for making and assumption based on “specs”. This is after all one of the first Android phones to show that you don’t necessarily need better “specs” to perform well and give an excellent user experience.

          “It’s the car equivalent of, “my 4 cylinder feels nice and I don’t need more power, so it’s just as good as any v-8.””

          And I’m so glad that you brought this up. I happen to drive a 4 cylinder. A Pontiac Solstice GXP to be exact. Its relatively light and in it’s stock configuration (which I currently am running) it has more than enough power for it’s weight (though I could easily remove the software limitations on the HP (root) and get a healthy increase in power). Driving around, I always get those guys in their V8 monstrosities (Older Muscle cars, but some of the new ones as well such as the new Cameros) and I can easily hold my own and I often do.* So I don’t see how your comparison really works on in real world life. My “smaller 4 cylinder engine” often performs and even outperforms V8s. It’s all about the optimizations. My car is lighter and the engine is optimized to get the most out of it. It can be pretty damn good on gas at times (some owners get 30-40mpg when just “cruising”, I normally get closer to the 30mpg).

          “And yes absolutely the Moto X should have been cheaper regardless of where it was made, because the hardware was/is inferior. I know the cost of making it was close to other high end phones, but again a low-mid tier device costing that much to make is a failure.”

          Perhaps it should have been cheaper, but we don’t know the cost of the R&D it took to optimize the processor setup. Yes they are older chips, but they are used in a very innovative way that allows the user to get the most out of it with lower specs. Couple this with the very thin skin Moto put on it and you’re left with a very good performing device that can hold it’s own against other phones that might have better specs.

          “The apple example doesn’t help your case, because that was also fan boys exaggerating things. If the Macs before intel chips (i remember they had Motorola and some other chips in there) performed so well like you and others believed they obviously would have stuck with it and it would have forced Microsoft/Intel to adapt. ”

          This is where you are wrong. The era of computers I am talking about they most definitely did out perform the equivalently “spec’d” PCs. This was mainly due to Apple’s control over the hardware they use and optimizing the software for that limited range of hardware. The PowerPC chip also could have had some play in this as well. That kind of control works (we see it today in iPhones where they can easily hold their own against their higher spec’d Android competition). True, there was a point that Apple moved away from the PowerPC chips, but that was AFTER Intel went back to the drawing board after the big Processor wars with AMD (Faster clock speed vs more efficient chips). See AMD saw things differently, they knew that power and performance did not come from higher clock speeds and chips that could double as space heaters, but more efficient computing. At one point AMD was considered to be the chip to get for power and perfromance, especially with the gaming crowd and even though they were often clocked slower. Then Intel got smart and started redesigning their chips to follow the same line of thinking and you can see where we are today. Apple did not move to Intel until after that swap (Which occurred during the P4 which was ultimately taken over by the Core 2 chips which were lower clocked chips that out performed their predecessors.)

          “That never happened, just like the Moto X never became a success.”

          But it did happen, it just wan’t Apple that caused Intel to “get smart”, it was AMD and once Intel made the change, Apple made the swap to the better architecture.

          It’s been fun and I really hope that one day you pull aside me in your V8 so I can show you how well an optimized piece of machinery can perform just as well as a more powerful machine.

          *When I monstrosities, I mean they are just big. They have big engines, but they have a lot of weight to push around as well. About 33% more than my car. I actually love the looks of the new Cameros and other “retro” styled muscle cars that have come out in the past few years

  • Chad

    Apple doesn’t really seem like the evil antichrist anymore.

  • anezarati

    “Yuanqing quotes President Obama who said now is the time to invest in America.

    “We heard him and are doing exactly just that,” Lenovo executive says.”

    Thanks Obama

  • Never Hide

    :)

  • Ken

    there goes the hope for a more blended google/motorola…

  • Chad

    This will probably be what finally sends me to the crApple side. More than likely making the Moto X my last Android device. After a bumpy 4.5 year relationship that began with the OG Droid. Just really burnt out on trying to keep up with all of the phones, rooting, flashing, etc.

    • LaFave07

      I agree. At least with Apple you know what you’re getting. It’s too hard to keep up with Android and know if you’re device will be updated and if there will be any apps that won’t work with your phone in the future (still can’t pay San Andreas on my Note II).

      Android is becoming a mess.

      • Chad

        Exactly! So tired of waiting for updates to fix issues from the last one, scanning forums (xda) to find fixes for my issues, wondering if it’s an app that is causing my phone’s battery to die rapidly or causing it to respond sluggishly. I was really hoping that the new Motorola under Google was gonna be the saving grace. Now I’m just ready to join most of my friends with iPhones who enjoy iMessage and apps that are for the most part, just better on iOS.

        • LaFave07

          I know what you mean. Been there done that. Don’t even get me started on the shitware that comes on them from AT&T and Verizon that’s almost impossible to get rid of without a custom ROM.

          People can blame the carriers for that but why is this not present on iPhones?

    • Jimmy Debacher

      I’m in the same boat. I’ve had nothing but Motorola.

    • jimt

      A Nexus 5 should satisfy your OG Droid needs.

  • Aooga

    I don’t know…..with all this talk about the Nexus line going away and now this, I might just get the next iPhone. Google’s becoming a bit too greedy now. That is if apple gets their act together and releases a bigger phone.

    • hkklife

      Greed is a terrible thing. Google is increasing becoming more Apple-like. A shame, really. I was hoping HTC would have acquired Lenovo and someone else would have grabbed Moto. I said from day #1 that Google’s heart was never in the Moto acquisition. This is ALL indirectly Jha’s fault, by the way. He set up Motorola up for failure years aho and Google had no patience for them to right the ship.

  • tom riddle

    “After reading comments from all parties, are you feeling any better?”

    Not a chance…

  • Travis Walls

    Thoughts about this as they come to mind:

    – Sad to see a U.S. company go to Chinese ownership (how long before the Moto X assembly gets moved overseas?)
    – This is probably good for Google for lots of reasons
    – Less baggage from loss of profits, etc.
    – They don’t alienate other Android phone makers
    – They got what they really wanted (patents, etc.)
    – This is good for turning Lenovo into an anti-Apple
    – How many other Android makers cover so many other product categories?
    – A company can buy everything IT from the same place, now including Android smartphones

    As a new Moto X owner, I feel rather uncomfortable about this. One of the primary reasons for me to get this phone was because of the parent company and their influence on the decisions that were made in producing it. In the end, I can’t blame Google for looking after themselves, but it doesn’t make me feel any better about the deal.

    • anezarati

      those last 3 bullets can be said about samsung as well. samsung also has the brand recognition already. samsung is becoming too powerful.

      • Travis Walls

        I guess that is true. I guess I just only think of Dell, HP, and IBM/Lenovo from an enterprise IT perspective. It is like how Asus also sells PCs, but they wouldn’t be in the data center where I work.

        • anezarati

          ah, i see what you are saying in that last bullet now. i think autocorrect got you on “enterprise”

      • sirmeili

        My issue with Samsung isn’t that they are becoming so powerful, its that they are becoming too Apple-like. They lock their devices to only their own devices (Gear only works with Samsung phones for instance) and they are trying to hard to make “Android” their own. I think one of the reasons the motoX performs so on par with higher spec’d devices is because they don’t have the bloat that companies like Samsung load on their devices. You really need more “power” when you have more crap to deal with.

        That said, I bought my GF a Lenovo Yoga Pro 2 for xmas. Best laptop ever. I now want one to replace my Dell Precision M6600 (Yes, I realize that are not on par performance wise). I just love the features in the laptop and it’s usability. If Lenovo can keep Motorola’s current path of innovation and mix in their own innovative spirit, I can see it being a win.

        I will agree with @disqus_WRox8kuLiF:disqus though and say that I’m sad to see Motorola going oversees to a non-american Company. I also hope they keep the manufacturing in the US as it was one of the reasons I bought the MotoX.

  • Booyabobby

    I worry that Lenovo is gonna be like Samsung. Developing their own android skin that nobody likes with features nobody wants.

    • hkklife

      They already have. Their tablets ship with that hideous carousel launcher, never receive updates and are always under -spec’d. Occasionally they ship with show stopping bugs (I recall a Lenovo tablet that launched last year with 16GB internal storage but less than ~ 1 gig of actual space to install apps due to wacky partitioning.