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Judge Deals Samsung Legal Blows, Invalidates Patent and Rules Auto-Complete Infringes on Apple’s Tech

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Samsung’s litigious battle with Apple over device patents hasn’t gone well for the Korea-based company. On Tuesday, Judge Lucy Koh invalidated Samsung’s multimedia sync patent, intellectual property that the company intended to use as leverage against Apple during an upcoming trial in March. 

Perhaps more damaging to Samsung’s case, Judge Koh ruled that some of the company’s Android devices infringe on Apple’s auto-complete technology, a mechanism that suggests words based on syntax. The decisions come hot on the heels of the Samsung’s appellate court loss last December, which permitted Apple to argue a second time for a sales ban on over 20 different Samsung devices and tablets.

Samsung needs to convince the court that Apple’s auto-complete patent is invalid if it has any hope of countering the judgement. That may be a long shot, but considering the general hostility towards Samsung’s use of fair, resonable, and non-discriminatory (FRAND) patents, the company doesn’t have many other options.

Via: Re/Code
  • MichaelCrackMonkey

    Judge Lucy Koh clearly in Apples’ pocket. I wonder what they promised her. Cash, free apple products for life…

  • Frettfreak

    ITS THE JUDGE!!! JESUS!! This lady has been in apples pocket since day 1!

  • Elliot Kotis

    I feel as if judge Lucy koh is an apple lover. Over the 4 years or whatever has she ruled in Samsung’s favour at all? And now she is saying Google is infringing?! These patent wars need to end, apple doesn’t even use the patents they just sue people for them. Could apple hire Steve Wozniak back, the only good leader who didn’t wreck other companies products that ever worked at apple. #wozniakforceo

  • rutgersjaffo

    Seriously, Apple, go eat a d–k. I will NEVER own an Apple product. I would rather use a tin can on a string or go without. What a fraud corporation propped up by hipster idiots too stupid to see how bad they’ve got it.

  • bionicwaffle

    Apple should be sued for having such a terrible soft keyboard and not allowing third party keyboards. I have an iPhone 5S for work. The thing is terrible to type on. It has no text prediction, no tap and hold short cuts, and basically no punctuation without switching to a secondary keyboard – which you need to do for numbers as well. It’s badly thought out and poorly executed. The auto-complete it has is nothing special.

  • Patrick Crumpler

    So why was Samsung granted a patent in Tue first place? I agree with someone else here, samsung needs to get a different judge. Or better lawyers.

  • master94

    Lucy Koh already admitted she hates Samsung and yet they don’t ask for another judge. Most biased judge ever to walk this Earth

    • Frettfreak

      THIS!!!!!!!! I dont know how this bitch is still on the case.

  • Obvious Sarcasm

    Someone check Judge Koh’s pockets. They reek of rotten apple lining.

    Invalidating legitimate patents? Seriously? She should be referred to as Judge Koh-rrupted.

    • Frettfreak

      Been saying this since day 1. that bitch has to go

  • MikeKorby

    As my two years with my Galaxy Nexus came to a close, it came time to upgrade my hardware. I could have picked an S IV, or a Note 3, but I chose a Droid Maxx. I did so because I applaud the direction the moto is taking, I found the hardware to feel premium, I like the (mostly) stock android, and the battery life is about as good as it gets.

    During this transition, I came to the full realization that I no longer favored Samsung based on the direction they were headed. The fact that most common users perceive it as a mobile fight between Samsung and Apple hinders Android as an ecosystem, and denies other noteworthy devices/OEMs from shining through. My point is, Samsung did what they felt they needed to climb to the top of the heap, and in doing so, have made themselves Apple’s primary target. At this point, I am really not too concerned as to what happens with Samsung (but I also despise Apple, so my back is against the wall on that one). Overall, I am mostly just sick of these patent wars.

    • dizel123

      What’s a Siv?

      • MikeKorby

        IV = 4 in Roman numerals.

        • dizel123

          Why didn’t you just write S4? We ain’t in Rome

          • MikeKorby

            In certain contexts, the fourth iteration of Samsung’s Galaxy series has utilized roman numerals in a manner similar to how they had used them with the Galaxy S III (S3). Both are entirely valid for referring to the device, although a “4″ is admittedly the more common method (perhaps since it seems the masses cannot interpret Roman numerals, it seems?)

          • dizel123

            So you have low self esteem so you come on the internet and make posts that you think make you look like an intellectual type so you can feel better about yourself. Got it.
            BTW, I learned Roman Numerals in 2nd grade, I just don’t feel the need to use them because that generally makes people look like a total DB.
            Just sayin

          • MikeKorby

            My styling was in no way meant to present me as an “intellectual type”, it was just the nomenclature I had decided to use. My apologies if it seems to have offended you that some people may prefer something different from you. Seems to me like you may be the one who has the issue with self esteem if you require that everyone coincide with your preferences, lest be called out for their divergence.

          • dizel123

            Boy, you really broke out the thesaurus for this post didn’t you. Or are you just trying to get a lot of mileage out of your word of the day calendar?

          • MikeKorby

            Or it could simply be that many of the folks I deal with daily tend to be verbose, and I suppose it becomes second nature over time. That said, I will take your responses under consideration for future interactions with users on the internet in an effort to provide for a greater degree of clarity and understanding.

            As I can see this discussion has veered entirely from the original post, I shall take this opportunity to end our exchange. Thank you, and have a pleasant evening.

          • MikeKorby
  • Orion

    These two companies can destroy each other for all I care.

    • Kevin

      Can not agree with you more.

  • alzeis

    I feel like a lot of things in IOS 7 were directly “borrowed” from android. Apple should really not throw stones in a glass house. Just saying

  • NorCalGuy

    Apple might not have the patent on it but they sure have perfected stupid lawsuits that help no one out including them selves

    • Adrynalyne

      Samsung is copying Apple on that too!

      ;)

  • Brandon

    If you can’t innovate, litigate.

  • Wolfpack93

    The patent system needs to be revamped. “How” a concept is accomplished should be patentable rather than the “concept” itself. Patenting the auto-complete feature is akin to Mozilla patenting a condition loop in JavaScript and then suing any other language that implements a similar function.

    • michael arazan

      Amazon just patented “Stocking Shelves.”

      Amazon patented a process of predicting a person order from their browsing of products and then to ship that product to the closest amazon shipping center to that customer. SERIOUSLY, they received a Patent on this?!

      • Frettfreak

        THIS is the root of the problem. The complete MORONS at teh USPTO handing out patents. Gonna go snag a patent for wiping my ass then sue EVERYONE!!! lol

    • j

      Agreed. Auto complete.. I have to think there is prior art for this. Google implemented autocomplete for searches in 2008 which doesn’t predate the iPhone, but they can’t be the first.

  • JMonkeYJ

    My feature phone had autocomplete with T9 in 2004 and my computer had autocorrect with MS Word in 1997.

  • HerroMoto

    I feel like there are some people on this site post memes just to get likes even if they have nothing to do with the topic/comments. Really gets annoying to see these pointless memes in every article.

    • Philip J. Fry

      I really feel like you are a troll.

      • HerroMoto

        Says the troll trolling my comment…

        • Philip J. Fry

          Oh, what’s up Chris?

          • HerroMoto

            Nope… Didn’t mean to hurt your feelings seeing that you posted a meme on the last article as well. Don’t take it personal

          • Chris

            He will. Spoiled rich kid.

          • John Legere

            Lol Chris again. Look how he made a fake account to fight himself up top

          • HerroMoto

            Lol this is not Chris! I don’t even know who that is. I only see one other person named “Chris” above me I don’t know if that’s who you guys are referring to. I did not mean to hurt your guys’ feelings lol! I’m sorry.

          • John Legere

            Funny how you mention memes when there are none in here. Move along, Chris.

          • Chris

            Funny how you assume it’s me. When I haven’t been on here in a few hours.

          • John Legere

            Sure buddy. Keep it up.

          • Chris

            The children above are talking about me. They love to get worked up over little things and put the blame on others.

          • EdubE24

            I thought the same thing as I read that. Thanks for confirming!

          • Chris

            If it was an account you can click on it.

          • Chris

            And no one else can have the same opinion? Quick call the opinion police….

          • Chris

            Nothing much man. Just had a steak dinner. Nice and full….

      • Tim242

        You are definitely a troll, no feeling or thinking needed.

        • Adrynalyne

          A troll calling others out as trolls?

          I guess trolls can recognize their own.

          • Tim242

            Well, you are the resident troll.

          • Adrynalyne

            I feel like in a kindergarten class.

            I know what you are, but what am I?

            A troll calling me a troll.

            Classic!

          • Chris

            Feeding them is something you love to do.

          • Jarred Sutherland

            Your level of trolling must be Inception like .. a troll within a troll, so much trolling you forgot you were trolling.

        • Philip J. Fry

          LOFL you out of all people shouldn’t be calling somebody a troll.

          • Chris

            Are you even old enough to know what a troll is? You know before the term was invented for people you disagree with on the net?

          • Philip J. Fry

            I know exactly what a troll is, you and tim are perfect examples of one and horrible ones at that.

          • Chris

            Wah wah wah mommy mommy. Someone posted something on the net and I disagree with them. I’m gonna call them names…..

          • John Legere

            Exactly what you do.

          • Philip J. Fry

            Is this all you got? You have literally got to be 8.

  • MandrelStraughtrider

    Apple is yesterday. All they have left are frivolous lawsuits. Litigate don’t innovate.

    • Maxim∑

      keep telling yourself that

      • MandrelStraughtrider

        Because I like telling myself facts? What significant upgrade has there been to the iPhone in years? The extra row of icons in the still woefully small screen? EVERY tech savvy iPhone fanboy I know have moved to Android devices. EVERY LAST ONE. The only people left on iPhones are old people that think it’s cool or the few remaining fan boys that enjoy deluding themselves into thinking that it’s heyday wasn’t years ago.

        • Adrynalyne

          Apple knows very well that familiarity and simplicity make a successful device. We can argue all day long on the successfulness of Apple vs. Samsung, but Apple is worth a lot more as a company and has more cash reserves.

          You don’t get that on accident, you get it by doing things that work.

          • Patrick Smithopolis

            You also get there by having no competition in the iOS sphere unlike Samsung which has tons of competition in the Android sphere.

          • Adrynalyne

            I think users typically associate the OS and hardware together so I don’t know how much effect that has.

            Apple haters hate on the OS more than the hardware.

        • pappy53

          iPhones account for more than half of all smartphone sales on all 4 U.S. carriers. That means that they sell more than all Android phones COMBINED. Yep, they are so “yesterday”.

  • joejoe5709

    Apple is either paying off judges or they’re just as clueless as the iSheep. This whole thing needs to go away. Sorry you’re butt hurt, Apple but someday you’ll just need to innovate something really revolutionary to keep up.

    • Adrynalyne

      Samsung is not exactly innocent.

      • Jarred Sutherland

        Shhh don’t tell them that, let them keep talking about iSheep. If you break it to them that their just Galaxsheep their world will crumble! ;)

        • Jeremy Martin

          Galaxsheep just does not roll off the tongue as well as iSheep…maybe gSheep or something for the Galaxy fanboys.

          • Jarred Sutherland

            “Geep” … going off to patent this BRB

          • Patrick Smithopolis

            I don’t think you’ll find a lot of Galaxy fanboys on Android websites but you’ll find a lot of Apple haters like me.

          • Chris

            So much hate in the world….

          • Adrynalyne
          • Chris

            Right…… There are other Chris’s in the world. You do understand that right?

            Never said that. You can keep crying all you want. Won’t change the facts.

          • Adrynalyne
          • John Legere

            I love how he says it’s not him when you called him out, he removed the pic, then again he made his account private. And the fact that they type the same. And troll the same way.

          • Chris

            Do you and your buddies have concrete evidence that it is me?

          • John Legere

            The fact that you continue to troll, make fake accounts, and everyone knows it’s you? Yeah. We notice.

          • Chris

            Define “we”

            And fake accounts? Care to share these accounts? Names and urls?

          • Chris

            My account has always been private and with no profile picture

          • John Legere

            That’s why i saw all those comments on CNN? Keep digging your self a hole.

          • Chris

            Don’t visit. CNN .

            Nice try though

          • John Legere

            Like i said, keep it up.

          • Chris

            Sure. After all I wasn’t the one who started this argument. You brought me up….

          • Adrynalyne

            Is that why I was able to preview where you were trolling by clicking on your name a few days ago?

            Must have been private back then, too.

          • Chris

            I don’t know. You spend an awful amount of time on here commenting on articles that have no relation to the article it self. I just respond because you respond to my comments.

            You go on and on about how Tim or my self “trolls” and yet look at what you are doing right this second.

            I’m surprised they haven’t deleted any of these yet or placed a ban/suspension on us.

          • Adrynalyne

            Oh yes, I am definitely trolling you, who likes children molested or dying. You deserve to be trolled to the max.

            You are sick and disgusting.

          • Chris

            So you admit that you “troll” as well?

            I never said that.

          • Adrynalyne
          • Chris

            that wasn’t me.

            question: Why do you keep a screenshot of some guys face on your computer?

          • Adrynalyne

            That is YOUR face! You changed your avatar after I mentioned it.

          • Chris

            No its not. As I said before I never have my photo shown on here….

            I understand why you are mad, but blaming other people with the same name won’t help anything.

          • Adrynalyne

            Sounds like a duck, walks like a duck…

            You post, the same way.
            You trash on people, the same way.
            You deny things, the same way.

            Are you really going to sit there and tell me that all Chris accounts act the same way? Please.

            I checked those comments after you said them, and they were linked to your account. The account that is now private.

            Of course, you deleted the first comment and edited the second one and then denied any wrongdoing.

          • Chris

            and you trash on people? Like you are doing right now?

          • Adrynalyne

            Only those who wish death and sexual defiling of my daughter. You need help, bro.

            Sick and twisted.

          • Chris

            I don’t even know you. Why would I say such a thing?

          • Adrynalyne

            Because you don’t know me. You rely the anonymity of the Internet to hide and act out your predatory fantasies.

          • Chris

            Same can be said for you.

          • Adrynalyne
          • Chris

            and you know this is a 100% fact?

          • Adrynalyne

            I do.

            I was also there when you denied it after editing it.

            Not that I am worried or anything, my daughter is quite adept with the sword and would lop off your weiner if you tried.

          • Chris

            So you let your kid play with sharp objects?

          • Chris

            Nice “guest” voting BTW….

          • Adrynalyne

            LOL, ok.

            I am not quite as shallow as you, who creates guest accounts, makes comments, then denies it.

          • Chris

            How do you “create” a guest account?

          • Adrynalyne

            You tell me.

          • Chris

            well the account will have a user name and link. If not then its not really an “account” now is it?

          • Adrynalyne

            Once you leave the board or sign in, those links go gray.

            You knew that though.

          • Chris

            Really? Care to show proof of that? REAL proof, not made up screenshots.

          • Adrynalyne

            Crying photoshop again I see.

            So predictable!

          • Adrynalyne

            He thinks we are idiots when we (and others) watched him do it.

          • Chris

            Not my comment.

            You can keep crying and throwing a fit about it all you want. How about you just get a life.

      • Pedro

        According to Lucy Koh, Samsung is anything but innocent.

        • Adrynalyne

          Neither of them are (Apple and Samsung).

          • Adrynalyne

            Mr. Downvoter, how does that work? Do you think they are both innocent?

            LOL.

          • Chris

            As with you. No way.

      • joejoe5709

        Duh. Of course not. But this judge is so far off that it doesn’t take much to assume she is uninformed or blatantly anti-Samsung. This is definitely a biased judgement.

        • Adrynalyne

          We just need some judge to rule that the patent system is bullsh!t.

    • Chris

      Android users are smart?

    • master94

      They aren’t clueless. Lucy Koh just has it out for Samsung. She admitted it during the past trial and refused to let another judge take over claiming her bias didnt affect the case. Than again it could call be BS since it comes from BGR which puts facts on the low list of priorities.

  • BK

    I think it is important to point out that decisions like these implicate arguably core features of Android. The wider view is not just about Samsung. For example, the Galaxy Nexus was one of the examples cited in Apple’s suit.

    I’m not a doomsday sayer suggesting Android’s existence is in danger. But it’s hard to look at the patent wars and not to feel a little disheartened and pissed off as an Android enthusiast.

    • Kyle Wiggers

      Agreed.

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    • EP_2012

      “The wider view is not just about Samsung. For example, the Galaxy Nexus was one of the examples cited in Apple’s suit.”

      Wasn’t the Galaxy Nexus made by Samsung?

      Honestly, for all the BS Apple dishes out about being creative and giving people tools to express creativity, it really is an exclusive club they are trying to form… in the end, it’ll be what kills them.

      • MistaButters

        Yes, but is has stock Android. That’s the point. It’s not just Samsung phones infringing.

        • BK

          Exactly. Yes, the Galaxy Nexus was made by Samsung. But it’s not like Apple is going after TouchWiz in its complaint regarding autocorrect. It’s targeting the stock Android keyboard. Any Android phone using the infringing technology is a potential liability. And that is why the patent wars are a shame – perhaps BS, perhaps not – but hard to stomach right now as an Android user.

          • MicroNix

            Hasn’t autocorrect been part of data entry in programs like Word long before Apple came along with its precious little iPhone? Prior art?

          • Frettfreak

            it has but unless that patent is invalidated it doesnt matter anymore. He who patents first wins.

        • michael arazan

          If Samsung had just used stock android and made all their features into apps this wouldn’t be as big as it is. But Samsung having to make their own version of everything android, is working against them terribly now. Need to get rid of TouchWiz go stock android and make all their extras into apps that come with their phone. And if they become popular sell in the play store for other devices and additional profit.

          • MistaButters

            Not at all! That’s completely wrong. The Galaxy Nexus is infringing too and it has Stock Android. That is the point; even stock Android is infringing on these patents.

            The reason Apple is going after Samsung is because they are the biggest Android OEM in the states by a massive margin.

          • Elliot Kotis

            The own 45 percent of world wide market share of phones, that is why.

  • user311

    Hey apple… Fu.

  • Brent Cooper

    Doesn’t SwiftKey auto complete words bast on syntax? Am I missing something, or do I just not understand legal jargon?

    • Intellectua1

      I thought the exact same thing when I read the auto correct line..

      • Adrynalyne

        Well if they are going after Samsung for autocorrect, they are going after Swiftkey too, because Swiftkey makes Samsung’s keyboard.

        • Intellectua1

          I did not know they made Samsung keyboard..

          • Adrynalyne

            The most recent ones. They have Swiftkey Flow abilities.

    • Kyle Wiggers

      Yep. Pretty broad ruling that could do significant damage.

    • Frettfreak

      And i KNOW they have to have patents for their stuff.

  • Chris

    This whole samsung VS apple thing is becoming real old. Both offer great products but both are not perfect either. (Apple’s “closed” system. Samsung’s touch wiz etc)

    • MWF

      WTF are you talking about? Android and Samsung are PERFECT. otherwise no one would be buying them. no one buys iphones anymore. Its all android. Nothing is wrong with android. its as perfect as it can be.

      you brain dead?

      • Boblank84

        can’t tell if serious?

      • Philip J. Fry
      • Maxim∑

        Your 100% right, analysts expecting iPhone to sell upwards of 60 million units this quarter. Samsung is so perfect with touchwiz and the amazing fake plastic leather design.

        Only company near perfect right now is Motorola not Samsung, not Apple

        • Tim242

          Motorola? Haha were you able to type that with a straight face?

          • Jarred Sutherland

            Ah Tim242, always here to troll!

          • Tim242

            I would say bringing moto up in a Samsung article is the true trolling.

          • Jarred Sutherland

            That must mean discussion in general here is trolling.

          • Tim242

            Yep, just like anybody that disagrees with a differing opinion.

          • Jarred Sutherland

            No not at all. It’s just that is all you do here.

          • Tim242

            And silly moto fanboys like to troll Samsung articles. That’s the comments section for ya.

          • Jarred Sutherland

            Oh I so hope you’re calling me moto fanboy. That will just add to every other claim that I am a fanboy of X. I think HTC is the only one I’ve not been accused of being a fanboy for.

          • Adrynalyne

            On Droid-Life Discus, I have been called:

            Apple fanboy
            HTC fanboy
            Moto fanboy
            Samsung fanboy

            I wish they would make their mind up.

          • Adrynalyne

            “Yep, just like anybody that disagrees with a differing opinion.”

            Wait, are you finally admitting that you call people who differ with your opinion trolls?

          • Tim242

            I can’t tell if you are trolling, or battling your reading comprehension issues again.

          • Adrynalyne

            Neither. It is precisely what you said.

            Jared: That must mean discussion in general here is trolling.

            Tim242: Yep, just like anybody that disagrees with a differing opinion.

          • Tim242

            He got it. If you need further understanding, read his response. I knew you were slow, but damn…

          • Jeremy Martin

            let me introduce you to an awesome phone:
            http://www.motorola.com/us/FLEXR1-1/Moto-X/FLEXR1.html

          • Tim242

            Thick phone, small screen, small battery.

          • Jeremy Martin

            Ah ok i see what you are doing there….who let you out from under the bridge?

          • Jarred Sutherland

            If you see Tim242 posting here just assume he is trolling.

          • Jarred Sutherland

            Thick phone .. perhaps you need to change out of your hipster skinny jeans?

          • Tim242

            The Note 3 fits in my pocket better than the Moto X. FYI, I wear boot cut jeans.

          • Jarred Sutherland

            Then you have pants from another dimension, perhaps you should turn those things in for a case study.

          • Tim242

            The thinner the phone, the better it feels in the pocket. Plus, the moto x has that weird shape on the back that pooches out.

          • Jarred Sutherland

            Curved is a weird shape?

          • Tim242

            Yes, in a pocket. Pockets are flat.

          • Jarred Sutherland

            But .. if you put the curve facing OUT .. the material jeans are made out of is made to take the shape of an object in the pocket. But again, if your jeans are too tight (and it sounds like they are), this will be a problem.

          • Adrynalyne

            I’m not understanding the problem, either.

            Hell, I put my Droid 1 in my pocket without issue and it was a damn brick.

          • Jarred Sutherland

            Yeah I am at a loss on this one. He’s got some quantum jeans or something.

          • Tim242

            You think because I’m gay, that I wear tight jeans? What other stereotypes would you like to share?

          • Jarred Sutherland

            I think because you complain about the Moto X being a thick phone in that it doesn’t fit in your pocket .. that’s what makes me think your jeans are tight. I had no clue you are gay, nor do I even care.

          • Tim242

            I never said it doesn’t fit. As a matter of fact, you are the one that brought up pockets and tight jeans. I merely said it is a thick phone. I meant that in the hand, it feels much thicker than all current flagships.

          • Jarred Sutherland

            Blah blah blah. Have a good evening I’m done.

          • Tim242

            You too : )

          • Adrynalyne

            Do you forget what you post?

            “The Note 3 fits in my pocket better than the Moto X. FYI, I wear boot cut jeans.”

            The thinner the phone, the better it feels in the pocket. Plus, the moto x has that weird shape on the back that pooches out.”

          • Tim242

            You seem to not be able to follow the flow of a conversation. That was said only in response to his tight jeans claim. I knew you would post this. You are too predictable. My point stands. I simply called it a thick phone. I am not the one that got started on pockets and tight jeans. If you can’t keep up, stay out of other people’s discussions.

          • Adrynalyne

            Gay has nothing to do with it.

            Not being able to comfortably fit a Moto X in your pocket is why he mentioned that. Overly sensitive? Nobody mentioned your sexual orientation.

            Nobody cares if you like men.

          • Tim242

            Again, your reading comprehension is lacking. I said nothing about pockets or jeans. I simply said it is a thick phone. He then said I need to stop wearing tight jeans. Again, I didnt mention jeans

          • MK

            I think you wear pocketless jeans and thats why you’re having a problem. Buy yourself some nice tablet sized cargo pants bingo problem solved.

          • Kevin

            That doesn’t mean your legs are flat.

          • Tim242

            Think about that. That would only be relevant if the phone was curved inward

          • Kevin

            Flip the phone buddy.

          • Tim242

            It would still not curve to your leg, and it still pokes out.

          • Maxim∑

            yeah I was able to

        • Intellectua1

          Motorola??? Perfect??? Hope you’re being sarcastic..

          • EdubE24

            Hey Chris…

        • Chris

          There’s always room for improvements. Nothing is ever perfect.

  • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

    Oh Samsung and Apple……. Anyway looking forward to some rumors on the S5. I don’t care if Samsung and Apple kills each other anymore.

    • John Legere

      Or your beloved M8. Which can be a great device, if HTC doesn’t F up.

      • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

        True True. I’m already skeptical about the dual camera. But there wasn’t much to fix on the M7, so I’m still looking forward.

        • Frettfreak

          Could be… who knows. I hope it is. I love my One (but the camera HAS to be MUCH improved or i am out). I dont honestly see this hurting android too bad in the near future and by the time everything rolls down hill (up hill??) to google they will have SURELY changed the infractions. Its a cat and mouse game

    • EdubE24

      Agreed…pretty boring these days.

    • Jim890

      Same here! Looking forward to it, especially With the crazy rumors going around with the specs of the S5.

    • Kevin

      Two trolls going at it.

      • KingofPing

        Damn, Son. You pretty much just described not only the article, but the vast majority of comments on this article.

        Good call! (This site is getting so ridiculous lately…)