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Report: HTC to Launch One Follow-up in March With “Twin-sensor” Camera and Larger Display

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According to a report out of Bloomberg this morning, HTC will release its follow-up to the One in March. Their sources – a person with direct knowledge of HTC’s plans – claim that the phone will once again be called “One,” sport a display greater than the 4.7-inch panel used in the original One yet smaller than the 5.9-inch display of the One Max, run Qualcomm’s latest Snapdragon processor, and carry a “twin-sensor” camera.

A display greater than 4.7-inches could mean 5-inch or 5.2-inch for all we know. The details given were not specific. The latest Snapdragon processor could be the 805, since the 800 isn’t exactly new these days and no phone currently runs the 805. But what about this “twin-sensor” camera? 

According to this report, a “twin-sensor” camera will “provide better focus, depth of field and image quality. It will also be called UltraPixel, just like we saw on the original One. I just hope it takes pictures at a greater resolution than 4MP.

This report claims that the phone will arrive in March. Timing-wise, that sounds about right for a follow-up. Mobile World Congress (MWC) will take place once again at the end of February, and HTC typically announces their new flagship for the year around that time. So a late February unveiling could happen, with availability happening shortly thereafter in March.

Are you ready for the new HTC One? Have you forgotten about HTC already? You tell us.

Via:  Bloomberg
  • Dante

    Faster processor, twin sensor, and a larger screen size are nice but they all pale in significance when compared with a microSD card slot. No slot, no buy.
    The HTC One has been highly regarded and it is brilliant, but it has this one big flaw and that’s why Samsung models outsell HTC ones by about 10 times.

    Lets hope HTC has learnt the lesson. All the best features cannot erase one bad mistake.

  • CasperTFG

    Bring it….. in blue

  • JMonkeYJ

    I know mockups are kinda lame, but this looks pretty much like what I’m hoping for:
    https://plus.google.com/+NikolaiPrettner/posts/JiGeZ4vZJ6z

  • T_Dizzle

    I haven’t left htc for dead because my Incredible was an awesome experience but this phone would have to be as solid as the One for me to consider it and I am upgrading this year.

  • Hammond

    I first owned a HTC DNA and loved the phone – especially the camera. The phone died (refused to charge) after 7 months. Since I have multiple lines with Verizon. I “upgraded” to the One instead of sending the DNA in for replacement. The One’s camera is mediocre at best. Why didn’t HTC put their best camera in their flagship phone? Not sure I will buy the new One when it comes out.

  • Tim242

    I left HTC behind after the Thunderbolt. That was my 5th and last HTC phone. It has been all Samsung since then. I’d consider Moto if they decide to go up just a bit in screen size and work on that camera.

    • LionStone

      You left when the getting was just getting good! :-)

  • JMonkeYJ

    I’m really hoping bigger screen means no capacitive buttons. They could increase screen size to 5″ without changing overall dimensions (maybe a little wider?). I’m excited for the next HTC, Moto, and Sony (really hoping Sony continues to step up their game). Sounds like HTC will come first, so I’ll get it and then see if the others are worth getting later in the year. Oh and, GPE edition or no deal :)

    • Chris

      Only nerds cate about the gpe

      • JMonkeYJ

        I can only speak for myself: I am definitely a nerd, and I won’t get an Android device unless it runs totally stock or very close to stock (eg Moto) Android. Just hoping manufacturers don’t consider GPE a failed experiment…I really have no idea what the thinking is there.

        • Chris

          likely the average consumer doesn’t know whats “stock” and whats “Sense” or “touch wiz”. They buy the phone that looks appealing to them. (hardware, software etc)

          in the end its really up to them and wether or not the salesman offers an unbiased opinion or shoves his views in their face thus making them buy a device they may or may not like to start off.

  • Guy Meatdrapes

    Honestly I still don’t understand the hate against the thunderbolt. Maybe if you kept it stock, but honestly I didn’t really care for any phone unrooted/stock back in the days of froyo/gingerbread. Back then rooted and running a custom rom like liquidsmooth I loved the phone.

    • Chris

      Because even in 2014 people want it to get kit kat

  • Just_Some_Nobody

    *PSA*
    Do not buy this phone if:

    A) You expect it to come with the latest version of Android.
    B) You expect timely updates while you’re on contract.

    If you expect these things, buy a Nexus. Otherwise, do not come in hear 6 mos after you buy it complaining about lack of updates.

    • Chris

      I’m pretty sure the HTC one came with the latest Android version at the time.

      • Just_Some_Nobody

        So? Big deal…

        All the whining about updates gets old.

        • Chris

          Agreed. I’m not crying that I still have jelly bean on my own evo. Sure kit kat would be nice but this is a two year old phone.

  • Shadowstare

    So…is this the successor of the HTC One? The next flagship device.

    • Chris

      Yes…..

      What kind of question is that?

  • Robert Macri

    I hope they release this with 4.2.2!

  • Shane Redman

    Twin sensor + UltraPixel = 8MP?????

  • AndroidRulez

    Hell yeah! Cant wait for another HTC phone. Already miss my HTC ONE, its a whole lot better than any of the phones by samsung.

    • Tim242

      Unless you need to take decent pics. You must love larger than necessary bezels.

      • Marikel

        I’m not here to say Samsung devices are lackluster, because they’re far from it, but the HTC One has just ONE advantage over it, and that’s an experience that’s ALWAYS smooth. Touchwiz stutters from time to time on the S4 (which it shouldn’t). On the Note 3 it’s fine, but they need to optimize Touchwiz to run better on the S4. It’s a solid device, and people I know that have the phone have nothing bad to say about it, but I can’t stand Touchwiz. The leaked pictures of the next version of Touchwiz have made me interested in Samsung again, however. I’ll get the S5 if Touchwiz was updated. Enjoy that S4, though. It’ll probably get much better with future updates.

  • steve30x

    I was a bit skeptical with the One since I was coming from a Rezound but its the complete opposite experience. Other than Nexus devices, its lag free experience overall navigating throughout apps and the UI. Also no more “cuffing” the back speaker to get better sound since its blasting right in front with stereo sound, its a pleasure playing games on this device. If HTC wants a killer phone, upgrade the battery and bring back an SD card slot!!

  • http://thebeeobee.com/ thebeeobee

    This comment section is beautiful. HTC apologists crack me up.

    • Chris

      That’s what’s makes android so great. Choice. You have a choice of what phone you can use.

      • http://thebeeobee.com/ thebeeobee

        True. But only 2% of the phones being on the latest OS and apps not being able to include certain camera features, for example, to be able to support inferior phones are the tradeoff for that choice (not referring to HTC, just a general thought about the Android ecosystem).

        If we could just get it down to Moto and then let Samsung go build Tizen the Android world would be a better place. (LG and HTC can go away)

        • Chris

          Not much choice…

          • http://thebeeobee.com/ thebeeobee

            Absolutely FALSE!

            You have never seen Moto maker, I take it. Between that, the Moto G, and the Droid line there is SOOOO much choice. Dozens…NAY…THOUSANDS of options!

            Wood backs!!!

            Not much choices lol.

          • Chris

            You get the same phone, just the hardware it self is customizable.

            not everyone wants samsuing and not everyone wants motorolla. Wake up

          • http://thebeeobee.com/ thebeeobee

            Well, nobody wants Motorola, unfortunately, as they are doing as bad as HTC.

            But you are wrong about Samsung. Everyone wants them. If it wasn’t for Amazon taking tablet sales from them, they would be even more dominant.

          • Chris

            “Well, nobody wants Motorola, unfortunately, as they are doing as bad as HTC”

            and yet you suggested a moto G/X

            Samsung is only big because of marketing. Simple as that.

          • http://thebeeobee.com/ thebeeobee

            Chris walk away from your PC that probably has an AMD processor. You’re dumb and know nothing and make poor product choices.

  • Daeshaun Griffiths

    Sounds like the camera is slow but will produce well lit images. Just have to wait and find out.

  • karate baker

    I don’t know why you guys are so down on HTC. I have the greatest phone ever made, the thunderbolt! First LTE phone!

    Sorry was reliving my nightmare from a few years back. HTC gave me PTSD.

    Posted from my Samsung galaxy note 3

    • Cael

      HTC needs to stop trying to be first to the market with bullcrap and bring some OVERALL top quality **** to the table. Screw just an aluminum build. Battery, camera, software…the whole shebang!

    • JoshGroff

      I too had the first ever LTE phone, and the Sensation 4G, Rezound, DNA, and the One. (Among other non HTC devices)
      All first gen LTE phones were bad tbh.

  • Matthew Rebmann

    Sorry this is off topic but does anyone here use Pulse to read their tech news? And am I the only one that has issues with it pulling news from Droid Life? It’s always missing the latest article for a good few hours. This app used to rock :/

    • LionStone

      It works fine for me, updates to the most recent article no problem.

    • matt

      ya the developers have really messed up that app :( It takes forever to load and the ui is just not that fluid as before.

  • skinja99

    HTC:
    -a higher res ultra pixel camera (maybe 8MP)
    -slightly bigger battery
    -sd card slot
    -smaller chins on the top and bottom of the phone
    -thinner bezels around the edges

    Is all you need for people to want and buy this phone.

  • Cesar

    I love my Moto X. I’ll be watching for what Moto does later this year.

    That being said, it is interesting to see what other manufacturers are doing.

  • Orion

    I think HTC is just begging to be finished.

  • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

    Pack your BAGS KELLEN! . . . MWC here we come!…

    Can’t wait for this device… really miss my HTC One… I won’t sell my N5…being one of the best Nexus devices I’ve had….. but I just really liked my HTC One a lot. Hopefully they do something different with the button arrangement but that was really my only issue.

  • MichaelFranz

    twin sensors better not mean another EVO 3D :p

  • KingofPing

    Probably the only device I might be willing to part with my current HTC One for. This is the longest I’ve ever owned/used/liked a mobile device. I’m usually bored/sick/annoyed with them after a month.

    I rarely use the camera, so couldn’t care less what it is, and so long as they release a GPe version, updates shouldn’t be an issue for me (Converted my T-Mobile One to GPe as soon as we had the ability).

    • Franklin Ramsey

      Couldn’t care less, so you care about what the Camera is? I think you mean Could you could care less what the camera is.

      • JoshGroff

        He’s right with couldn’t… It’s not possible for me to care any less than I do now = couldn’t care less.

        • Franklin Ramsey

          Actually, both could be considered wrong and were originally started to show a sense of sarcasm.

          Saying you couldn’t care less implies you care on some aspect or nature, so if you care about it in some way shape or form, there is always a way to care to a lesser extent. Could care less implies there is a little bit less caring you could could do. If you really wanted to say you don’t care about something you’d just say I don’t care about it.

          • JoshGroff

            If you don’t care about something at all, than you couldn’t care less, as it’s impossible to go below 0. (Or isn’t it?) Could care less implies that you do care, but doesn’t imply how much you care.

          • Franklin Ramsey

            A way to visually repreresnt it would be to say caring a lot about something = 1, caring less = .5 and not caring at all = 0. So if you couldn’t care less you still care at some level, such as .0000001 which means you could still care any number under that less. Saying you could care less indicates the same exact thing. Such that if you care .0000001 you could care at .00000001 or lower. It’s only when you say you don’t care where you reach 0. Saying you couldn’t care less is a way of saying you don’t care about something that was started in Britan in the 1950s, but it was supposed to be sarcastic in nature because any time you attribute a level of care to something there always becomes a lower level one can attribute to it. So if I am at .01 percent caring and say I couldn’t care less there is always .001 percent caring. If I now say it, there is .0001 percent. That’s why it is incorrect.

            In this case he is saying he doesn’t care about the camera since he rarely uses it. Couldn’t care less is the wrong term to use. I don’t care would be the correct term or could care less is if he does, infact, care even a little bit.

          • Franklin Ramsey

            But honestly I’m just bored at work today so I’m just nitpicking at this point.

      • KingofPing

        *laughing*

        Yeah, okay…I’ll bite.

        “Couldn’t care less” Meaning: Cares as little as is humanly possible. eg; Not at all. Not one bit. Zippo. Zilch. Nadda.

        Hopefully this information will help you in future forums and topics. Have a great day!

        • Franklin Ramsey

          Oh I get what he is trying to say. What he is in reality saying in that statement is he has a level of care which he can’t go below. Sadly, Unless he doesn’t care at all, there is always a lower level he could care. So the only way to really say one doesn’t care zippo zilch nadda, is by saying “I don’t care”.

          And yes, I’m bored at work so for some reason decided to nitpick. Boredom might be why people troll. Dear God I hope there is a cure.

          • KingofPing

            “Oh I get what he is trying to say.”

            Oh. You came here for an argument?

            Will that be the 5 minute, or the full half-hour?

          • Franklin Ramsey

            Haha I didn’t come for an argument, I was just bored. And I’m at work for another 4 hours, so… the full half hour! I apologize if I’ve offended.

          • KingofPing

            “I didn’t come for an argument…”

            You did!

          • Franklin Ramsey

            But I didn’t! I came because I’m bored!

            (And I think/hope you were making a Monty Python reference)

          • KingofPing

            Did too!

            (If it isn’t obvious by now, God Help You….)

      • lookatmyfunnyusername

        Was this an attempt at humor, because very people get the whole ” I could care less” right but he actually did.

        • Franklin Ramsey

          More like an attempt to show both ways aren’t right, but sure. Humor. Why not.

  • Selbowdaeskimo

    If HTC wants to succeed, they need to spend more revenue into advertising. Most consumers nowadays do not know the differences between Jelly Bean & KitKat.

    • Tyler Casilio

      Which would be Google’s fault, not HTC’s

    • epps720

      Big issue is they spent their money poorly. Spending millions of dollars on Iron Man w/o the costume was just stupid!

      • John Legere

        Yeah, i like RDJ, but hes not somebody people look at, and admire a lot. Most people are still mad at his druggy years.

      • Chris

        He has a name you know..

        • epps720

          Yeah the problem is he is synonymous with Iron Man and
          without that I don’t think his value is anywhere near what they paid him for
          those commercials. Besides the fact the
          commercials were HORRIBLE! They need to
          create a good advertising campaign and stop thinking some celebrity is going to change
          their companies fortune around.

  • Tyler Casilio

    I’m very interested in this phone, and I hope it can also take the #1 phone spot and bump the One down to #2. That way HTC has the #1 and #2 phone out there and that will kinda show everyone, they have returned…..fianlly

  • Tyler Casilio

    it’s called HTC One Two

  • epps720

    I’m not sure about the bigger screen size, unless it’s just a smaller bezel. I thought the last One was the perfect size in hand. IMO the BoomSound speakers add too much size to bump up the screen size

    • Cory_S

      Unless they go to on screen buttons.

      • epps720

        very true

      • Marikel

        I think an “insider” said that it will go to on screen buttons, but we’ll see how that pans out. If they go to on screen buttons that phone will definitely be a choice for me. I wonder how Sense 6 will turn out. Sense 5 was a HUGE upgrade over Sense 4, and much smoother. Hopefully they make Sense 6 even more optimized and cleaner.

  • hyperbeatser

    the twin-sensor, just like the ultrapixel camera, will be a gimmicky piece of junk with 4mp again

    • Cory_S

      The only reason they would use twin sensors would be to go over 4MP. One would be a “fat pixel” dark shooter at probably 4MP and the other would be for well light situations at 8-13MP.

      • seeingwhite

        Could they take two pictures simultaneously and then combine them into a higher quality image?

        • Cory_S

          They tried that with the 3D crap they did awhile back. This won’t use both sensors at once.

  • David Triscari

    They need a winning feature that no one else has, that draws attention, that completely changes the way the public views and uses their phones, in order to make a dent against Apple and Samsung. If its just slight improvements, etc, no one is going to buy it over an S5 or iPhone.

    • http://www.droid-life.com Kellex B

      They need Active Display . :)

      • EC8CH

        They and everyone else need to copy Moto’s low power cores. The X8 sounded gimmicky at first, but all of the functionality enabled by those two cores constantly monitoring your phone has FINALLY resulted in manufacturer added features that are actually useful.

        Active Display… Moto Assist… hell I even use the camera shaky thing all the time. All very simply, yet very useful features all made possible by the X8 system and it’s low power cores.

        • Marikel

          This comment basically sums everything up. Everyone thought that the Moto X’s features were so gimmicky at first, but months later we can all see that those few extra features are actually much more useful than the feature packed Galaxy S4 with the OS taking up 9 GB’s of storage. CEO’s need to stop f*cking with Android as much. If they want to differentiate their devices, then a very minimal skin is fine by me, but all of this fluff that Samsung and HTC are adding is irritating me. We don’t need half of the features on the S4.

      • MichaelFranz

        ^ This…..they need something to compete with the feature of Moto phones. Im spoiled by active display and touchless control.

        that and a maxx size battery, 3000mah or larger…and please do something about the button layout

        • JoshGroff

          It’s funny, I actually prefer dynamicnotifications to active display on my moto X, but then again I’m a sucker for customization and features.

  • John Legere

    I second that “higher than 4mp”. I love my G2 where i can zoom in and not lose a lot of the image quality.

    • http://www.droid-life.com Kellex B

      What up Legere! Good morning, good sir. :P

      • John Legere

        Ah. Morning on the west coast. I’m over here eating lunch already. It’s 5 o’clock somewhere ;)

        • JoshGroff

          It’s always 5 o’clock in margaritaville, allegedly…

          • John Legere

            That it is

      • http://meatcastle.com/ Youre My Boy Bloo

        I assume you had a total sploosh moment as you typed this.

  • http://twitter.com/ebjerkeli erikbjerkeli

    The HTC One has been fantastic, I’m looking forward to seeing what the follow up will offer, especially if it has a better camera

  • Philip J. Fry

    Thanks but no thanks HTC. The HTC ceo needs to do what Dennis does, read Droid – life!

    • Cael

      They don’t even listen or respond to the complaints and criticism (not including the “my phone screen won’t work type of stuff”) they receive on Facebook and Twitter. They couldn’t handle what Droid-Life would dish.

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    • Miguel Angel Portela

      HTC phones are just so…horrible.

      • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

        Far from it. Htc one was the best reviewed phone of last year. And I loved mine

        • JoshGroff

          Same here, and then I bought a Moto X.

        • Miguel Angel Portela

          At least in my experience, they’re badly made. I like the idea of HTC. But they just. No. Hated the One, loved the ONE S but they just break down so quickly.

          • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

            “Badly Made”? If it’s one thing you can say about HTC is that they make high quality hardware. I can tell you didn’t own the one.

          • JoshGroff

            Hell, even the thunderbolt was built like a brick, looked like one too… I definitely second their top notch build quality, although the little side stickers on the DNA were terrible.

          • LionStone

            “side stickers” ? What are those?

          • JoshGroff

            The red accents on the side were basically stickers, mine peeled off after like a month in the summer.

          • LionStone

            Oh wow did not know that. Mines still good! I work outside mostly, no case either and this past summer was the hottest ever!

          • John Legere

            I can give HTC hardware, they just need to increase the size, the camera, and add a big battery. Will make it a success.

          • Miguel Angel Portela

            Aluminum only goes so far. Can it take a fall? TOTALLY. But a 720p video was enough to make that phone hot enough to feel concerned and terrified. I can’t stress enough that in my experience, I went through three. Maybe it was bad luck but hey.

          • AndroidUser00110001

            Ha! I went through 3 Desire HD where the bottom right corner of screen would flex and start separating to the point where dust would build up underneath it. Was the last HTC I would ever purchase and I came from a long line of HTC phones before that. Between that and their customer service I will never use an HTC product again, even if someone fave it to me for free.

            Funny because one of my favorite phones of all time was the TyTN II.

        • Cael

          I guess that’s why it outsold every other phone on the market! … oh wait… it didn’t? HTC is still in the red, you say? Oh well… ummm…. at least they got best reviewed phone!

          • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

            That’s not the point now is it? How many Android fans would never buy an iPhone simply based on the fact that they don’t like iOS….? Should Apple never sell a ton based on that? Whether or not a phone is great doesn’t have much to do with Sales. Sales start with marketing…something HTC is horrible at.

          • Miguel Angel Portela

            I have to agree. Sales mean nothing (from a certain point). Consider the Nexus 5′s stability and speed. Sure it has it’s short comings but that’s a great phone. Not a colossal seller. Hell, people always ask me “What is that phone? Who makes that? Oh that’s that Google thing isn’t it?”

          • Cael

            Google isn’t going for sales. Google could have sold only 1 Nexus 5 and the company wouldn’t be risking going out of business.

          • Miguel Angel Portela

            I just mean that a phone can’t rationally be judged by its quality based on sales because there’s more factors involved. I mean this from a very basic, non-business point of view. Apple comes to mind. You’ll find many people here that would argue that the iPhone is a terrible phone by our standards. But accessibility and ease and hive-mind popularity has made it a best seller.

          • Cael

            I agree with you. I’m just saying best reviewed phone doesn’t make it not horrible because people obviously didn’t buy it for a reason.

          • Miguel Angel Portela

            Gotcha.

          • Philip J. Fry

            The nexus 5 has surprised me so much. Wouldn’t have no other phone right now.

          • Miguel Angel Portela

            Oh and with ART turned on? Forget it, this phone is great.

          • Cael

            It is the point, because if HTC has to pull out the phone market that best reviewed phone won’t mean crap now will it?

          • jnt

            The original point was stated that HTC phones are horrible, that’s what people are responding to. You’re arguing with those people on issues that have little to do with the quality of the device. Your points back up how poorly HTC handles marketing, and that’s about it.

          • Cael

            The HTC One could have been made out of moon rock, got God’s seal of approval, and the device would still be horrible. The build material reflects little on the overall device, best reviewed or not.

          • jnt

            That’s your opinion, and I’m sure others share that opinion. But there are also people out there that really love it, not just reviewers. Plus, “best reviewed” could very well be referring to user reviews, which were very high for the device.

            HTC was already in the hole before the One – the One just hasn’t pulled them out of it. HTC’s viability as a company, and their marketing ability, have nothing to do with the quality of the device. You seem to simply be using those two problems to back up *your* opinion of the device.

          • Cael

            HTC viability as a company and their marketing ability has a HUGE impact on the quality of their devices and vice versa.
            I’m also not using those two problems to back my opinion. My opinion of said device is because of the fail camera, size, small battery, Sense, etc. I wasn’t even getting into that.

          • jnt

            It just seems like backwards logic to me. Many people love the camera, the size, the battery life (or at least are satisfied with it), and Sense. How does a person in that boat (which there are many out there) rationalize your logic? Their marketing doesn’t dictate the quality of the device. The quality of the device can help with marketing (and it did early on, they just didn’t market enough when their commercials were normal) – but the quality of the device can’t make the choices for the route they take in marketing. Their current state financially doesn’t retroactively make the One a poor seller – it just wasn’t enough to turn them all the way around.

            I don’t know, not trying to fight or anything, and maybe I’m just misunderstanding you – but it just didn’t make sense to me.

          • Cael

            I’ve seen MANY many people say the camera is the phone’s biggest flaw. I’ve seen MANY MANY articles hoping that HTC ditches the UP camera or go with a higher res one with the next flagship. The phone has a 4.7 inch screen and its what? Almost the same size as the G2? The phone is thicker than both the G2 and S4 iirc and it has a smaller battery.

            HTC used to boast about Blinkfeed and the front facing speakers in the earlier commercials. Now they are raving about the reviews for the build quality in their commercials. Marketing is supposed to highlight all of the reasons why you should buy the phone and highlight what it does, which is why it works for Samsung. Yes, Samsung may bash the iPhone but that’s by highlighting the stuff the S3/S4 could do and the iPhone couldn’t. People aren’t just going to buy a phone solely because its all metal, just like they won’t buy a phone because trolls are doing a carwash. Because really, why is a troll carwash supposed to make me want the one? The commercial was stupid…the phone might be stupid if that’s how they have to advertise it.
            HTC phones could clearly be better, especially with how the competitions is going. They can throw in bigger batteries in a phone without making it thick as a brick. They can go with a bigger screen without making the phone super tall in and wide. It’s completely possible, yet HTC doesn’t do it. I’m not saying HTC should pull a Samsung, I’m saying they should keep up.
            Also iirc, there were articles that the HTC One was delayed because HTC couldn’t get the necessary parts for it because they lost their foothold in the mobile world. So yes, that could impact and make the One a poor seller.

          • Hammond

            Agreed – the HTC One camera is by far it’s biggest flaw.

          • JBartcaps

            You think Moto X outsold every other phone? or the LG G2? or the Nexes 5? Nope they didn’t, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t good phones

          • Cael

            I know they didn’t… but I don’t see them airing commercials on TV saying they were the best reviewed phone so you should buy it. I see them actually showing off useful features of the phone like what HTC did in the beginning before it got desperate.

          • michael arazan

            But none of these phones ever make it to the Indian and Chinese Markets either except for Samsung phones, which is why they always sell in the tens of millions.

      • Frettfreak

        Talking like a guy that has never owned one or at least not a newer model. HTC is fantastic. In every way. Even sense is awesome now.

        • Miguel Angel Portela

          Oh no, I owned the One. And the One S. The One S was great. The One’s camera was a disaster and the phone itself kept breaking down. Three replacements in, I just gave up. Sense is a great interface and they have good ideas. But at least in my experience, they’re just badly made.

        • Cael

          HTC is not fantastic. If they were then they wouldn’t be in the situation they are in now.

          • Chris

            True, but they are making some money otherwise they would have gone out already.

          • Cael

            They had to sell their remaining stakes in Beats to make money last quarter. This new quarter is going to be back in the red.

  • Robert Willis

    2 months later the S5 will be out and HTC will become irrelevant again.

    • John Legere

      Only because of marketing.

  • MistaButters

    They need to focus on two things that matter: bigger battery & smaller body.

    • John Legere

      Less bezels too. The One was so distracting.

      • Craig

        Not crazy about their button configuration, either.

  • OG Droid

    HTC is dead to me. If they aren’t going to update devices there’s no point.

    • Grayson Carr

      The HTC One Unlocked and Developer Editions have had KitKat for months. Maybe they aren’t updating their older one-off devices, but they seem to be committed to updating their flagships promptly from last year on.

      • MistaButters

        Every year HTC says they will keep their devices updated, and every year HTC breaks that promise. Sure, going forward they may actually keep that promise, but anybody who has been burned in the past is not going to dive back in until they are reassured, which sucks for HTC because pretty much everybody that has purchased ANY HTC phone before the One has been burned. And going by their last announcement, they still haven’t figured it out.

        • Grayson Carr

          As far as I’m concerned, they kept that promise this past year. My HTC One came with Android 4.1 and is now on 4.4, the latest version. Nothing more I could ask for as far as updates go.

          • Cael

            The phone hasn’t been out for a year yet so that point is irrelevant and once it has it looks like you only got 6 months to go. Doesn’t look like it’s going to get any L flavored desserts then because HTC will be too busy with the One+ and the One+2 updates. They’ll probably say the One lacks the hardware required for Sense 6.0 or Sense 6.5 so they can’t update it because they have to provide a stable and optimized Sense experience.

          • Franklin Ramsey

            Just wait till their next phone comes out and see what updates you get at that point, is the point people are trying to make.

          • Grayson Carr

            Well I probably won’t see what happens because I never keep devices longer than a year, but I can understand the concern from people who keep phones for a long time.

          • Franklin Ramsey

            Wait, someone who understands someone else’s argument on the internet? Is that allowed? I think you just broke the internet.

      • Edwin M

        Wait until that phone reaches a year old and they have a new flagship phone and stop updating it. They move on to their newest phones and drop their older phones like bad habits.

        • Grayson Carr

          HTC went through some radical changes last year. With how fast they’ve been updating their 2012 flagship, I’m willing to give them a pass on their 2011 devices that were released before their changes. Even Google doesn’t update Nexus phones after about 20 months, so I don’t really expect HTC to still be keeping early 2011 devices up to date either.

          • MistaButters

            The HTC One was their 2013 flagship.

            Their 2012 first half of the year flagship was the One X, and it was abandoned.
            Their 2012 end of the year flagship was the One X+, and it too was abandoned.

          • Grayson Carr

            Fixed the dates in my post.

            The One X has not been abandoned. Some variants were already updated to Sense 5 / Android 4.2, and an Android 4.3 update is on the way for the One X. It probably won’t get 4.4, but neither did the Galaxy Nexus that was released only 5 months prior to the One X. Plus, I hardly saw any difference between 4.3 and 4.4 on my HTC One, so no big loss there anyways.

            I consider the One X+ to be a one-off device, not a flagship. The One X+ was only sold by a single carrier in the US and a single carrier in Canada. I never expect one-off devices to get updated as much as they should. Just look at any Galaxy phone that is not the flagship Galaxy S or Galaxy Note. They hardly get updated.

          • MistaButters

            The One X+ was also sold internationally as well….

            And no, HTC confirmed the One X and One X+ will not be getting 4.3 or 4.4, so I don’t know where you got that “4.3 update is on the way” info from.

          • Grayson Carr

            Wasn’t sure about international availability, but if a phone is only available on a single carrier here in the US, I probably wouldn’t buy it. It usually means the company isn’t fully invested in that phone. You’re asking for trouble. Another red flag was the fact that it was nothing more than a midyear refresh, with a worse processor than the original North American One X IMO.

          • MistaButters

            The One X was only available on one US carrier as well…

            No offense, but it seems like you know very little about HTC phones before the One.

          • Grayson Carr

            By a technicality, yes, only on AT&T, but the Evo 4G LTE was a variant of it on Sprint, and two carriers in Canada instead of one like with the One X+. Plus there was a lot more hoopla about it at launch. HTC was clearly more invested in the original One X than the refreshed / slightly tweaked One X+.

          • Cael

            They’ve already confirmed that the One X and X+ aren’t getting 4.3. Just like how they’ve dropped support for the Evo 4G LTE. LBR, the DNA won’t be seeing an update past KitKat if the “delays” or the excuse that the Sense experience isn’t optimized or stable enough to run on it don’t kill the KitKat update first.

          • Grayson Carr

            Last I saw from HTC, they said the One X+ wouldn’t get 4.3, but the One X and Evo 4G LTE would.

          • MistaButters

            Here is the exact post from HTC

            We can confirm that the HTC One X and One X+ will not receive further Android OS updates beyond Android 4.2.2 with Sense 5. We realize this news will be met with disappointment by some, but our customers should feel confident that we have designed both devices to be optimized with our amazing camera and audio experiences.

          • Grayson Carr

            Ah, I see this is from a couple days ago. I must have missed that.

          • Cael

            Not to mention their HORRIBLE choice of OUTDATED software and hardware that makes the problem so much worse.

          • Chris

            Jelly bean and kit kat is outdated?

          • Cael

            Didn’t the HTC One launch with 4.1 and not 4.2? Yeah that’s how they typically do their phones.

          • Chris

            4.1 is jelly bean

          • Cael

            and 4.3 is the newest version of Jelly Bean but Jelly Bean has been replaced by Kit Kat.

          • techpro1993

            The only phone company still support 2010 phone is called Apple. But in reality, you should never upgrade your iphone 4 or 4s to iOS7 because it’s too slow and missing too many new features.

            Abandoning ONE X+ is a bad thing though. I am sure though it’s HTC or nVIDIA. Do you own a Nexus 7 which uses Tegra3 also? It’s now a piece of junk, so slow and so many problems with WIFI. It was working great with 4.2.2. I guess I will flash mine back.

          • Marikel

            I updated my iPhone 4S to iOS 7 and it’s fine. I only have an iPhone because I couldn’t stand the slowness of my OG RAZR, but I’m definitely going back to Android when my upgrade comes in April. The only people that shouldn’t update their phones to iOS 7 are iPhone 4 (like you stated) and 8 GB 4S’s. Any 4S with problems is definitely an 8 GB.

          • Cael

            Google doesn’t update Nexus phones because of hardware. If the Galaxy Nexus didnt have an OMAP, lbr, they probably would have updated it to KitKat if TI still supported it.

          • qwert3y

            then why did Google lie and say it was out of their 18 month update period?

          • Cael

            Because quite honestly it was?
            It was released November 17, 2011.
            4.3 for the Galaxy Nexus was released on July 24, 2013.

            It received 20 MONTHS of support. 18 months obviously doesn’t mean crap to Google if TI was still in business providing the drivers.

          • qwert3y

            What? i still don’t understand why Google said the Gnex wasn’t getting 4.4 because it was out of their “update” period if that wasn’t the actual reason.

          • Cael

            The Galaxy Nexus is outside of the 18 month period and TI is out of the chip business so it doesn’t provide driver updates.
            TI being out of the chip business is not Google’s fault. They have no control over that. What they do have control over is the period they say updates are guaranteed for, which is 18 months. Galaxy Nexus is outside of 18 months. They gave the reason they have control over.
            HTC is the only manufacture to say that the chip maker has the real control over the what phones get updates, which is why it is important to go with relevant chip makers. Which is why everyone is jumping on the Snapdragon bandwagon.

      • athom07

        Your basing that on their ability to update their current flagship device. Nobody is going to know if they have really changed until the HTC One is replaced by a newer model. It’s a bit of a risk to take.

        • justin

          you’re*

        • Grayson Carr

          Not a risk for me as I never keep a device longer than a year, but I can understand the hesitation from people who keep their devices super long. If I couldn’t afford to upgrade my phone but every two years, I would probably go Nexus.

    • Tyler Casilio

      HTC Droid DNA updated in December, HTC One updated, and will update again. Unless you mean One X and those guys. Yeah that’s kinda dumb

    • Chris

      They’ve been updating their phones. Older models won’t get updated due to hardware.