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How to: Upgrade Phones at Verizon and Keep Unlimited Data

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What’s the number one worry around these parts when it comes to upgrading to a new phone? Keeping unlimited data on Verizon, of course. Over the last couple of years, we have seen wireless carriers realize how important data is to their bottom lines and future earnings potential, which has in turn allowed them to start charging you a premium for every single GB you consume. With that realization and price hike, we also saw the death of unlimited data and the introduction of tiered or shared data plans that offer you less for a steeper price. Yes, you are now getting screwed by most carriers. They are finding ways to take away your unlimited data, while offering up services and phones that beg you to consume more, so that they can continue to nickel and dime you. It’s a terrible situation for consumers, but since you have chosen a carrier more than likely because they offer you superior coverage in your area, you are stuck taking it.

Thankfully, there are a few ways for you to work the system to continue to enjoy that unlimited data that you locked into years ago. We have a couple that we’d like to go over to, so that as you approach contract end dates, you’ll know the proper steps to take to not give up your freedom. 

Option 1:  Buy at Full Retail

If you’d like to keep unlimited data going forward on Verizon, all you need to do is continue to buy phones at full retail. This means paying $500-$650 for top tier 4G LTE Android phones, so that you don’t have to sign a contract. You see, as you sign contracts, that’s when Verizon has the power to take away your current unlimited data plan and force you into something you aren’t going to be satisfied with. If you buy at full retail, all you need to do is then slap your current SIM card into the new phone and continue to enjoy your current monthly plan. Since there is no upfront discount or contract signing, you get an expensive new phone on the same data plan you already had.

This is probably the least attractive option upfront for most consumers to choose, since it’s the most expensive, but we still feel that it’s your best overall. If you can force yourself to save up for phones and pay for them at full retail once your contract has run out, not only are you then keeping unlimited data, but you are also turning your account status to “month-to-month,” which means Verizon no longer has control over you. With a month-to-month account, you can walk away at any time without having to pay an ETF (early termination fee).

The best place to order phones at full retail from Verizon is through the Iconic Portal.

Option 2:  Steal Another Line’s Upgrade

If you have more than one line on your Verizon account, the easiest way to keep unlimited data is to steal or transfer upgrades between lines and then use the newly purchased phones on your line with the unlimited data. Let me try to explain further, as there are details you don’t want to miss.

If you have multiple lines on an account, Verizon will let you take upgrades and transfer them between lines as long as the transfer is going from phone to phone. For example, my situation looks like this – 3 line account, two have unlimited data, with a third setup as a feature phone that runs me $9.99 per month. Since I keep my phones on a month-to-month status for the most part, I almost always have an upgrade available on one of my two unlimited data lines. So should I want to upgrade one of those two unlimited lines and keep unlimited data, all I need to do is transfer my upgrade over to that feature phone line and use the upgrade for a new smartphone.

There are a couple of ways to do this. The first would be to walk into a store, tell a sales rep that you have an upgrade to use, but don’t want to lose unlimited data. So you are going to transfer your upgrade to a different line, use the upgrade there, and then actually use the phone on an unlimited data line. They should be able to walk you through the process with no problem, just make sure when paperwork and signatures are flying around, that your unlimited data line isn’t being touched. They may have to add, remove, or tweak a data package on the line that you are technically using the upgrade for, but again, just make sure no changes are happening to your unlimited line. If you are like me, and use a feature phone line for upgrades to keep unlimited data, you can always remove a data package and return that line to a feature phone line of $9.99 per month once the entire process is all sorted out and your new phone is running on your unlimited line.


The second method involves ordering a phone online from Verizon’s store. To begin, you need to transfer an upgrade to a line that you don’t care that much about (a feature phone or tiered data line). You can transfer upgrades in the dashboard through My Verizon. Once you have the upgrade transferred to a non-unlimited data line (could be a feature phone line), you walk through the ordering process with that line, buy a phone, and likely deal with some sort of smartphone data package add-on (likely 2GB for $30).

Once the phone arrives, some recommend that you activate it on that feature phone/other line temporarily using the instructions that arrive with the phone. Be aware that this will also temporarily activate the previously mentioned smartphone data package. After activating, you will then need to call customer service to get the feature phone placed back in the system on that line as a $9.99 feature phone. This will kill off the 2GB $30 smartphone plan you just had on there and return your account to its previous state. Once that has been completed, grab the SIM card from your current phone with unlimited data and place it in the new smartphone that you would like to use on your unlimited line.

This may seem like a lot of work, and I’m not 100% sure those extra steps are needed, but it is a proven method. Should you receive your new phone and activate it immediately on your unlimited data line without addressing the feature phone/other line, there is a chance that Verizon will take that as you using an unlimited line as an upgrade, which could in turn wipe out your unlimited data. I personally don’t think that’s possible, since you are only making changes to your feature phone line and not your unlimited line, but it’s better to play it safe.

*Note – You may be able to remove the smartphone plan on your feature phone line through your account at Verizon’s website. Also, customer service can look back through your history to find the feature phone you’d like to use over and over again, so there is no need to keep that feature phone handy.

Keep in mind that even if you transfer your upgrade to another line and then use the upgrade, you are extending your contract on the line which the upgrade originated (could be your unlimited line), not the line you transferred the upgrade to.

This is probably going to be the most commonly used, assuming you have an account with more than one line attached because it is the least expensive.

Option 3:  Find an Awesome VZW Store Manager

This may sound silly, but there really are ways for managers to override systems and return your account to unlimited data after purchasing a new phone at a discounted price. I haven’t personally gone this route, but a number of readers over the last year have emailed in with their success stories from select Verizon stores and dealing with employees who help get authorization on unlimited plans. I don’t have any stores to recommend going to to keep those unlimited plans, but I’m sure readers can help you out in the comments.

Option 4:  Sign-up for New Service, Cancel, and Pay the ETF

This last option for you should technically work, but it definitely sounds like a lot of work and won’t save you all that much in the end. Should you choose to go this route, this is how it could go down.

If you sign-up a new line on your account or even completely new account altogether, you could in theory buy a phone at a subsidized price for say $199, then cancel the line or account, pay an ETF (early termination fee) of $350, and come out slightly lower than a full retail priced phone. Most top tier phones run you $600 to $650 off-contract, but at $199 for the subsidized price plus $350 for an ETF, you are looking at somewhere around $550. And that’s assuming that Verizon doesn’t charge you up front for the first month’s data and minute package, an activation fee, and any other new account costs.

I know unlimited data is important, but that all sounds like one massive headache. To keep it simple and clean, save up another $100 and buy the phone outright.


As I mentioned in the beginning, carriers are going to do whatever they can to get you out of your unlimited data plan. Hopefully these couple of options will help save some of you from being nickel and dimed with overpriced tiered data options. None of them are pretty, and you’ll more than likely use the option 2 loophole until Verizon closes it up, but you do still have options.

Also, if you successfully upgraded recently and managed to keep unlimited data, please share your story in the comments.

  • b.t.

    Can I buy used iphone 5 from a friend and keep my unlimited data from my droid and just out my number under the iPhone?
    I heard that I could NOT go from droid to iphone and keep unlimited data.

  • Jon Maier

    Just did option 2 today. Didn’t have to call Verizon, either. No issues.

    • Sam

      Were you able to do it all in one day/sitting? There was a pdf on the Activate/Switch screen mentioning you had to wait 24 hrs to reuse a SIM. So if I activate the new phone on the tiered line, can I reactivate the old line right away?

      • Jon Maier

        Yes, i was able to do it all in about 2 hours. The LG G2 came with a prrinstalled SIM but that one wouldnt activate on my dumbphone line, so i tried the extra SIM they sent and it worked. Then I rolled back to the dumbphone on my extra line and threw my SIM card from my old phone (GS3) into my new phone (same sized SIM) and it reactivated onto my line within 15 seconds…real quick.

        • Sam

          Excellent. Different SIM size in GNEX vs Moto X, so hopefully that doesn’t matter. Not sure I want to cut it. Most have said it doesn’t matter, so fingers crossed.

          • Jon Maier

            I think if anything, you may will have to go onto the website and manually switch the phone over. Good luck!

  • Chris B

    I just talked to 3 different reps; 1 in store, 2 on phone. And all said that if you transfer, the original line (which has the upgrade) will be applied a “new contract” thus losing unlimited. . .

  • creed

    I did this two weeks ago (10/28/13) and it worked! My scenario was slightly different but still involved transferring an upgrade. Here’s the gist of it…

    My wife and I have a shared account (shared talk minutes but separate text and data options) on Verizon but my line has the unlimited data plan and unfortunately her line has the 2 GB data plan. We both had upgrades available for our lines. I first upgraded here phone to the Galaxy S3, and kept her same plan. I then transferred my upgrade to her phone, and did yet another upgrade the following day. So essentially she had two new Galaxy S3 phones. I then took one of the new phones, called Verizon and had it activated on my line.

    Fortunately for us, we got the phones through Costco which allows for the Verizon activation fee to be waived and the phones are cheaper than on the Verizon Wireless web site (only $9.99 for the Galaxy S3). They activate the phone and give you the new phone on the spot so no waiting for shipping. The person at the Verizon kiosk in Costco was able to do the upgrade transfer from my line to my wife’s line and upgraded my wife’s phone the second time. Admittedly it didn’t hurt to flirt with the kiosk attendee to make sure things went smooth… :-), but that part shouldn’t be necessary.

  • Eric

    Working at Verizon we can no longer circumvent the system if you work the system to keep a customers unlimited data, it could be your last day, it’s not worth, this list should be one item long, buy full retail sine only way to keep unlimited data

    • AnotherUnlimited

      I had a conversation on chat with Verizon Wireless and they confirmed you can still do buddy upgrades and keep unlimited plans(#2). As near as I can tell you need to buy the phone from Verizon however or you risk getting charged by the third party retailer when you do the number swap. The rep also told me this would work with a feature phone that was not paying any data plan(in other words not even the $10/month) and the feature phone could go back to that after the number swap doing #2. My question now is can I do #2 buying through the MotoMaker site or do I risk getting charged by Motorola when I do the number swap.

      • Eric Kolibas

        I’m going to be trying this out when my Moto X arrives, as I ordered through the motomaker site and had it upgraded on a dumphone. I’ll try to report back.

  • jimmyn89

    How do you do option 2, 2nd method if your SIM from your original unlimited phone is a different size SIM than the new phone needs? Can you use the SIM that comes with the new phone?

  • Mia

    I just found a brand of phone that I like and go through Insurance. Insurance upgrades me to the newest model because I “lost or broke” my phone. I get a new phone and keep my unlimited data.

  • acashe42

    I have a 3g phone, can I bring a 4g phone bought from ebay or craigslist to verizon, and have them activate it with a new sim card and keep my plan??

  • DJ

    This maybe a little late but I followed the directions to option 2 second method above with swapping my unlimited line upgrade to a dumbphone line on my family plan activating on this dumbphone line and I did not lose my unlimited.

  • AnotherUnlimited

    I have been waiting to upgrade my Verizon Galaxy Nexus for a Moto X but I’d like to do the MotoMaker. Sounds like Nov 11th might be the date Verizon offers it. Any idea if you’ll be able to do #2 if you buy the Moto X on the MotoMaker website?

  • Greg Loesch

    I was able to successfully complete a version of #2 today! Staying vigilant and not taking no for an answer from Verizon reps served me well :). See http://gregloesch.com/980/verizon-unlimited-data-how-to-upgrade-and-keep-it-with-verizon-rep-chat-transcript/

  • guyinsm

    This seems pretty easy. I plan on upgrading and activating a new phone on a dumb line. Than move it over to my unlimited line. I am concerned about the sim card. The phone I have is old, 3g and does not have sim card to swap out. Is it neccessary. Do I have to worry about activating that on the dumb line. Maybe I can activate the phone without sim card in, than put it in for activation on unlimited line. I do not know what sim does and any info would easy my mind about doing this.

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  • Guest

    I have read a lot about this and my one concern is the sim card. If I activate a 4g phone on my dumb phone line, deactivate it and move it to unlimited like, do I need a new sim card. My phone now is 3g and does not have a sim card.

  • efar76



    I have ventured down the rabbit hole on option 2 and I am stuck on the switching of devices back to the old dumb phone part (the vzw site isn’t showing I am able to as it’s not registering that I’ve activated the new device)…

    I’ve sent you a rootwiki message also. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!

  • NickS

    VerizonChris, I am looking to upgrade to either Samsung Galaxy 4 or the Droid Maxx. I also have unlimited data and looking to keep that. Would you be able to help me with this?

  • swomdilly

    Hi, I was on the droid forum and noticed that you have a way of upgrading a phone and keeping the coveted unlimited package. Would you be able to give me a hand with the process so I don’t get unknowingly duped as I have heard several people have been. I have one unlimited data line and three regular lines, one with an available upgrade. My unlimited line has an upgrade but I haven’t messed with it as I have heard that is when they “get you.” Thanks for your help. I tried to pm on rootzwiki but it says you aren’t able to receive messages.


  • Eps

    verizonchris or anyone else possibly who can assist –

    I have a 4s with a sim card under Verizon with unlimited data and just got a 5s under a separate line on my family plan that just has a flip phone with. I had 5s activated on the separate line and then deactivated. So now its free. The question I have is about the below sentence. Since my 4s SIM is a different one than the SIM in the 5s, I am not sure how to proceed and don’t want to activate the 5s in case the new SIM then alerts them to turn off my unlimited data. Any ideas. Tried chris on rootwiki but had not luck. Im at [email protected] if you can message me chris. Thanks to all.
    Once that has been completed, grab the SIM card from your current phone with unlimited data and place it in the new smartphone that you would like to use on your unlimited line.

  • Ep

    Verizonchris and others-
    I have the iphone4s and got the 5s on another line in my family plan. The concern or question is the below quote. The sim from the 4s doesn’t fit the 5s plus it’s a 3G sim and I’m going to a 5s with 4g. How do I make this work and keep unlimited data? Had no luck at rootzwiki so I’m at [email protected] if you can contact me Chris.
    . Once that has been completed, grab the SIM card from your current phone with unlimited data and place it in the new smartphone that you would like to use on your unlimited line.

  • MasterSyrron

    Option 3, just no. As a store manager, I can tell you that we do not have the ability to override what the system requires.
    Option 4 causes churn, churn, churn which in turn drives up costs. Also, you are not only taking commission away from that salesperson, but the FULL SPIFF (usually $600) out of their commission. Would be an awesome way to get at someone you don’t like, but really, would you take money out of someone’s pocket?

  • Barb

    I have similar interest as others. I have s4 unlimited and wanted the note 3. Upgrade not available until nov 2014. Iphone 5 other line also unlimited. Upgeade for iphone5 us dec 2014. Whats the best method without losing our unlimited data on either phone??

  • Jeremy Martin

    I am told by VZW that if i transfer my upgrade on my unlimited account to any other phone, upgrade that line, I am renewing the contract from which the phone upgrade was originally from. They say at that point I will lose my unlimited data because i renewed my contract.

    To clear it up:

    A. Unlimited Data Phone – Upgrade available
    B. “Dumb phone” – Needs upgrade from A transferred to it

    1. Transfer upgrade from A to B
    2. Upgrade B using A’s upgrade
    3. Renews A’s contract since it originally had the upgrade
    4. With contract renewal A loses unlimited data

  • Evelyn

    Like everyone else I want to save my unlimited data but I want a new phone. I have a dumb phone but it’s my 4g that’s 6 months overdue for an upgrade. Please help me make the exchange.

  • ddcdccdd

    I have a iphone 4s (3g) with an unlimited data plan. I want to upgrade to a 4g smartphone and keep the unlimited plan, will either of these suggestions work for me?

  • William Ortiz

    What I always do is I place new phone in a good case so that when its time to upgrade I sell phone on Craigslist and usually get more than I expected and just pay the difference and get a new phone. Example, I sold my iphone 5 for 425 on craigslist, I took those 425 and only had to add 225 out of my own pocket and got an iphone 5S. $25 more than what u pay for an upgrade! I do it every year, works like a charm. Of course I save box and manuals etc, makes it more appealing.


    Thanks for this article. If anyone can clear up and help my scenario I would greatly appreciate it. I have Thunderbolt with unlimited data. My wife has a Motorola M with a 2 gb plan. I am due for an upgrade and would like to upgrade to the Galaxy S4. We’re on a family plan. Here’s my scenario

    1. My phone Tbolt Unlimited
    2. Wife’s phone Moto M 2 Gb.

    Using Method 2:
    1. Transfer Tbolt’s upgrade to wife. Then order S4 through wife’s. Keep plan the same? Or do I need to change the data plan to a higher tier so it looks like we’re actually downgrading back to 2 gb.

    2. When I receive the S4 activate on wife’s line.
    3. Go to account online and deactivate phone? Help! this is where I’m a little unclear
    4. Take out SIM from T-bolt and put in S4 and viola?

    Am I correct?

  • Justin Payne

    Iconic no longer offers “Devices without Wireless.”. It logs me in directly to a “Device+Plans” page.

  • Arthur

    I just received my Note 3 bought online via my basic phone line’s upgrade. Has anyone had success in doing the Option 2, Method 2 where the phone is activated directly as the phone with the unlimited data (as opposed to activating it onto the upgraded phone line, canceling, and switching over. Just wondering if we can skip the middle part. Thanks in advance!

    • Patrick

      I’m ordering one next Monday to attempt the same. Please let me know what you did and if you were able to keep your unlimited. I’m planning to transfer my unlimited line’s upgrade to a dummy line, activate the Note 3 there and then put the dummy phone back on that line. Fingers crossed.

      • Arthur

        Hi Patrick,

        I was able to keep my unlimited by activating the Note 3 onto the dummy line and then switching back to the original phone. It’s simple because the website keeps a history of phones used in the account in a dropdown so you just need to select the phone to switch back to. When you activate the Note, you’ll have to select a data plan, but that will be removed once you switch back to the basic phone. Lastly, switch the unlimited line to the Note by using the dropdown. Good luck, but you won’t need it. It’s super easy!

        BTW, BEST PHONE EVER! And I upgraded from the Note 2.


  • SeaniB

    @verizonchris:disqus good morning tried to pm you but your box is full…im on rootzwiki also under same user name. is there another way to contact you?

  • W.H.Hutchinson

    Has anyone been able to contact Chris?

  • krown royal

    Really..just found this out this morning…sorry if its already been posted

  • john doe

    i went to a corporate verizon store, not an auth dealer, and they told me if i did option 2 that i will loose my unlimited plan because they now track where the phone goes to by enc number and the data plan follows the phone.

    could be the manager lady was not truthful, she did have an uncaring attitude.

  • TeeRoy

    I dont know how long this is going to last but when you use the promo code: VERIZON30 at the checkout on vzw.com,it will give you 30% off the purchase price of your device.It doesn’t matter if you are paying the full retail price of the phone or if you are getting for the 2 year contract price..it works either way!!

  • mikewoods94

    For anyone that has tried option #2 (I moved my upgrade(unlimited data) to wifes phone but was told I needed to activate the galaxy note 3 (new phone) on her line and leave it for 24 hours. Is this neccessary or can I just immediatly swap it back?

  • RC

    I’m trying to transfer my unlimited data upgrade to a dumbphone; can anyone who has done this comment on where it shows that the unlimited data is the one whose contract is extended? I got to the last page before submitting the order and it said the contract would be on my dumbphone line! Just want to make sure as my dumbphone line is month to month and would like it to remain that way. Thanks!

  • Moto2Note

    So I jumped on the ‘upgrade window’ on Monday, got the Moto X picked it up in store and kept my max data. But now I’d like to return it for the Note 3.

    I spoke to 3 different customer reps over the past day, and they all said the same thing:
    When I return my Moto-X, that contract is voided, and my upgrade date goes back to what it was prior to last week (March 2013 was my old upgrade date). If I then tried to pre-order the Note 3, I’d be forced out of my unlimited data plan.
    Any suggestions?

    • T4rd

      Sell the Moto X towards a Note 3. I’m sure they’ll be on Swappa soon after launch from people selling their upgrades off. That’s pretty much your only option.

      • Moto2Note

        Not really interested in going down that route.
        Anyone else had any luck w/ returning new upgrades for a different phone, but keeping your max-data?

  • NelsonW

    For verizonchris:
    I have family plan 1400 minutes, unlimited texts and
    HTC Incredibe – off Contract unlimited data
    Iphone 4s – off contract, unlimited data
    Galaxy Nexus – off contract unlimited data
    Iphone 5 – on contract 2gb data

    How can I upgrade the Incredible to an HTC One and also upgrade the Iphone 4s to an Iphone 5s and keep unlimited data? Neither of the owners have a sim card

    The Iphone 5 user will prolly be leaving my family plan for a plan of his own in a few months. The Galaxy Nexus may also do the same.

  • Trunk

    This absolutely still works and don’t let anyone at the stores tell you differently. I had one rep tell me it was actually fraud and the transaction could be audited and the employee would lose his job. Damn! WTF?! So I bypassed that mess and did it online and just chose in store pick up. Then I activated the phone on the line that I transferred the upgrade to and went home. I swapped the phones to lines I wanted them on myself through the website. Worked great!

  • Lia Johnson

    I have family who works for Verizon and I was told it doesn’t matter if you have unlimited or not, the first of the year everyone will be tiered.

  • julia

    Hello VerizonChris,
    I have read through several comments on here regarding being able to retain the unlimited data, however I still have a question regarding our account(s).
    We want to upgrade 2 phones but don’t want to lose the unlimited data. I have another account that I am on that has 3 standard flip phones with upgrades. Can I get 2 smartphones on that account and then cancel them without having to return the equipment and apply the phones to my unlimited data account? I believe I have 7 or 14 days to cancel a transaction, correct? So if that were the case, could I cancel the purchased smartphones and then my bill go back to the exact same way with no activation fee, etc…? If this is possible, would it be better to do in the store or online?

  • Marco619

    I have a single line on a nationwide 450 minute plan with unlimited text/data. After my $9.99 loyalty discount I pay $82.75 including taxes. the way I used my upgrade without losing my unlimited data and not having my monthly bill go up is as follows: I found a flip (dumb) phone and called verizon in order to add a line no contract on a month to month basis. Of course I had to change my plan to the nationwide 700 min plan because of the add a line. An hour after I added the month to month line and changed my plan I went to a verizon kiosk at the mall and had them do an alternate upgrade from my unlimited data(which renews the 2 year contract on the unlimited line ONLY) line to the dumb phone I had just added an hour earlier. I then did a device only switch on the non unlimited data line putting the flip phone back on. Next I took the unlimited data SIM card out of my old phone and put in the new phone. The next morning I called verizon and had them cancel the line I had added the day before and had them put me back on the single line nationwide 450 plan. i did the above over four months ago and still have unlimited data:) Remember the add a line month to month no contract so there is NO early termination fee on it what so ever. I came up with this trick all on my own and it worked flawlessly.

    • T4rd

      Nice, that’s a good method for people who don’t already have multiple lines on their account!

  • milkman

    just recieved my 4th dinc2 a couple of days im one of the lucky ones who have unlimited data.my contract does not expire until april of next year hopefully this like new replacement will get me thru .100,00 for a refurbished phone is better then paying 500 to 600 outright for a new phone i use anywhere from 3 to 5gigs on my line thats mostly NFL network on verizion slacker radio google music some netflix when there is no buffering otherwise i use wi fi .my wife and my two daughters have 2gigs a piece they rarely get to that they use wi fi im the only one clinging to my unlimited wish my phone bill was current this weekend to jump on this smoking deal i would have used my wifes upgrade and purchased a new htc one.i think when my taxes are done and obama gives me back my money that i generously give buy a phone outright. 6 gigs for same what im paying for unlimited sounds good i will pass verizion i want my unlimited .

  • Ludwig Leota

    What you didn’t mention about your first plan is how to do it if you don’t have a sim card? I have a verizon iphone 4. There is no sim card used for this phone.

    • T4rd

      Go to a Verizon store and get one for a few bucks and activate it. It won’t change anything on the line/plan.

  • Debbie Nicholson

    Always interesting to know about pros and cons or other companies plans. Up till now, touch wood not had a problem with New Zealand handlers.

  • Chris Kelleher

    Hey all, does anyone know how to remove data online from the basic phone line once you do the upgrade and move the upgraded phone over to the unlimited data line?

  • Hammock

    Today Verizon is allowing you to keep unlimited data for some reason..


    I just placed my order. I upgraded Droid X directly (not with another line) and it shows unlimited data (not 2GB package).

  • Rott86

    i just spoke to a sales rep regarding keeping the unlimited plan and she said that alot of people are calling in about this and that even though the site says you can keep the unlimited, once you get the phone it will not have unlimited and even if you return the phone they are not able to put back the unlimited plan!!!! im really confused and not sure if i should even attempt to order and have a chance of losing my unlimited. this can become a really bad thing for verizon, maybe a lawsuit….

  • percysnow

    @Kellex B I actually done option 3, i found a cool 2nd party verizon rep and she (i have 2 lines) someway put my wife who has a gs4 not unlimited data though phone on my line or number put my upgrade to her line, i purchased the lg g2 at new service price which was 199.99 on her line then they swapped it back to my line and i was able to keep my unlimited data

  • Prince93

    Here’s a question not answered in this post: does the “feature phone” or whatever phone used to transfer the upgrade to lose its insurance, if someone had it, when the upgrade phone is later used by the line that originally had unlimited? In other words phone 1 with unlimited wants the upgrade and transfers an available upgrade to phone 2, the feature phone but this phone has insurance from VZW. After the whole process and phone 1 now is upgraded and keeps unlimited and phone 2 is still the same with their previous plan. What I’m asking is, does phone 2 still have its original insurance from VZW?

  • Minnesota17

    @verizonchris:disqus how does one find you on rootzwiki? I’d like your help in upgrading our phones and not losing my unlimited data. I searched for members with your name, but did not find you.

  • Gabby

    I’ve been reading a couple of forums about this loophole. Some people are having problems with it. I saw a screenshot where the verizon website asked them to choose a data plan for the BASIC phone. Can anyone tell me if this loophole still works? I want that blue HTC One.

    • cg

      Aside from that one forum on androidcentral, I have been trying to find the others. I am desperately trying to find answers so that I can decide whether or not to go through with “upgrading” to the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 with unlimited data.

      If anyone has any information, please respond to Gabby’s or my post.

      • Dlang123

        Yes the website makes you choose data on dumb phones now.. no you don’t have to keep it. Just call them up and cancel data, it’s what *someone* I know did , ahem.

        • cg

          Yeah, I saw that was the case on Androidcentral. Everyone was all excited about upgrading their unlimited data line directly without losing it over the weekend due to the Verizon glitch. I love gambling, but I wasn’t willing to put my unlimited data at risk, so I’m going with the safer method of what this conversation is about; upgrading the dummy line, putting dummy phone back in (and removing data plan) and switching Note 3 to my main unlimited line.

          Thanks, “someone…” 😀

  • Pon

    Hi verizonchris if I already did option 2 i got a confirmation email from verizon but it shows my Unlimited data phone number on the email even though i transfered and ordered the new phone from the line that didn’t have unlimited data. Is it normal for the email to show the original line (unlimited data line) on the email since that upgrade was used?

    • NoMoreNostalgia

      Same with me. Did everything work out for you in the end?

      • Iceblu333

        The same happened to me. How did things go for you? Nostalgia?

  • Clare

    Hi Chris!

    Thank you for this article! Although will this work if my old
    unlimited phone doesn’t have a sim card-I had an Iphone 4 before (which means I
    can’t switch SIMs)? Sorry I couldn’t find this answer or question in any of the comments or article.

    Thank you for your help!

    • Clare

      I should mention that I saw it once, but the answer was “please see email” in response to peruvianchick verizonchris
      • 5 days ago

  • GavinMiles

    Verizonchris I messaged you on wikirootz. When you have a chance please respond ASAP. GavinMiles

    • GavinMiles

      Chris, do you have any verizon friends that can help us as well? I can imagine you must be overwhelmed without the amount of people asking for help.

  • Terps

    Verizonchris can you help me an update. I have 5 lines out of which two have the unlimited plan.

    my email is terpsarlington(at)yahoo.com.


  • Deeta

    My situation:
    A: My Droid Bionic Unlimited Data with Upgrade available
    B: Wife’s Droid Incredible, Unlimited Data with upgrade Available
    C: Deceased (in Afghanistan) son’s feature phone keeping active to listen to his greeting :/. Upgrade available
    D: Daughter’s feature phone: Upgrade available in 6 months

    So last night I’m at Sam’s Club again and the S4 is $98 with upgrade. After reading that I can use one of my Unlimited upgrades to upgrade my daughter’s line to a S4 for her birthday I decide to verify and I call VZW and rep Deeshaun told me I could use my wife’s available upgrade to add a new smartphone to my daughters line. I had her walk the Sam’s club rep through it and she said it would not lose the unlimited data on wife’s line since we are adding the data option for our daughter’s line. I was waiting until tomorrow night to activate daughter’s new phone for a surprise.

    Wife’s phone went dead so I called VZW back last night to reactivate and the new rep said my wife’s line is now a 2gb data for $30 line and my daughters new line (when I activate it) would be too. So I get double screwed. I have an upgrade on our son’s line and didn’t use the upgrade there until I was sure I had recorded all the messages before i risked i

    I called customer service and spoke with a supervisor today and he said too bad, we don’t care what our rep said last night even though he sees it in the notes (in so many words). He told me that the only option to get her Unlimited back is to return the phone. Sale ended at Sam’s last night so that sucks!

    I’d love to use both my and my wife’s upgrades to get new phones if it would work but apparently not.

    If VerizonChris is out there and can help, email me at: 4deeta(at)gmail.com

  • chris125

    I went into verizon today and tried to do the transfer and they tried to say it would change my line to 2gb since it was “my upgrade being used” they also said they wont allow it because its jipping the system when I told them I was doing it to keep unlimited so think they were just trying to keep me from enjoying unlimited. Saved me $200+ dollars and made it that much easier for me to switch from verizon. Got to love their awful customer service. Not to mention my other line was going to upgrade and they liked my old phone and I would take the phone they “upgraded to’ and the employees told me i would have to call into customer service because they wont switch sims in store. This was after the manager told me it would work fine. Safe to say last time I will ever venture into that store again lol

  • vimsstl

    I would like to use option 2 with the second method but, the iphone 4 we have doesn’t have a sim card slot on the side of the phone. So now what?

  • speedy

    i have unlimited data plan and i wanted to upgrade to a 4g phone,unfortunately verizon would only allow me to get a new 4g phone with the discount if i renewed my contract thus loosing my unlimited plan. so i asked that if i purchased a phone somewhere else would verizon be able to add the new phone to my account they said yes. I went to craigslist and bought a phone at a much cheaper price saving me quiet a substantial amount and still keeping my unlimited data plan.

  • angelycam

    I just tried to you the upgrade on my unlimited line and transfer to a feature phone and the store told me even though I am transferring my upgrade, I would still lose unlimited data because I am extending my contract by transferring my upgrade. I called Verizon to verify and they also said the same thing. They said the only way to keep unlimited is to not upgrade at all. WTf? I told them I walked through the step online to transfer my upgrade and it didn’t touch my unlimited data, but she said it would because it asks you what data package you want and that package would apply to you transfer line and unlimited line. So have they finally closed the loop hole or am I needing to try again? I don’t want to lose my unlimited data. HELP!!!

  • If you don’t have to have the latest greatest new phone, you can get a really great deal buying on eBay and then activate the phone with Verizon. I did it and it’s saved my 10 year old unlimited data plan and I’m now free as a month-to-month customer. I got what appeared to be a new Motorola Droid Bionic and a charging stand for $200 and then I had to get a new sim card for $20. My cell phone bill is the only bill that hasn’t gone up in the last 10 years, in fact it’s gone down since my company qualified me for a total of 22% discount.

  • RB

    I would appreciate any help with my situation:

    I’ve been on the same family plan with unlimited data for over 7 years.

    There are 4 lines on the family plan.
    Line 1: Iphone 4 w/ unlimited data (upgrade available)
    Line 2: Iphone 4 w/ unlimited data (upgrade available)
    Line 3: 1phone 4S w/ unlimited data
    Line 4: Samsung Intensity III w/ no unlimited data

    I want to upgrade Line 1 (Iphone 4) to the new Iphone 5S. Based on what I read, would I be able to transfer the upgrade from Line 1 to Line 4 (Samsung Intensity) and do option 3? How would I be able to do this if there are no sim cards in the iphones? I spoke with a VZW rep on the phone and she mentioned to go into a store and have them help me keep my unlimited data, which I am assuming she was hinting at option 2 by going into a store. So what exactly would I need to tell them in a VZW store to upgrade my iphone 4 to the new iphone 5S by transferring the upgrade to the Samsung phone on my family plan?

    Any help would be so appreciated! Thank you!

  • Senor

    My wife and I have two lines on our plan that is now month-to-month. One line with unlimited data and voice minutes and one line for a basic phone thats shares the voice minutes only.
    From reading all this, my take is we could upgrade the basic phone and move it over to the line with the unlimited data. This would give us unlimited data on a month-to-month basis for that phone alone. If we want to have a second smartphone we could buy an unlocked smartphone at the retail price, but we would have to pay for another data package since the original unlimited data plan is for only the one phone.
    That is the conundrum. The extra charges start adding up just to preserve unlimited data on only one of the two phones. Right now, if we just go with the tiered data plans we could get two smartphone upgrades. As much as I want to keep the unlimited data, I am not convinced that we would use the unlimited data on the one phone enough to justify buying an unlocked smartphone at retail prices and adding the second data package.
    Does anyone have any advice or thoughts? Thanks.

  • Dennis

    Sorry if this has been answered but does option 2 not work if you’re on a family plan? I have a family plan with one unlimited data line and one basic phone, no data – I went into best buy and was told that I could not do this because of the fact that it was a “family plan.” But the girl had a few other facts wrong and her mind was also blown by the fact that my phone was rooted so not sure I should trust what she had to say!

  • I went to Best Buy to do my upgrade. I took my mom’s dumb phone with me thinking I could tranfser the upgrade there, but Best Buy’s portal doesn’t do that.. Thankfully my dad’s line (another dumb phone) had an upgrade too. I upgraded that line. We called Verizon to put his old phone back on the line, then I took my SIM card from my RAZR and stuck it into my new HTC One.

  • UbiquitousTimmy

    I need unlimited text and data but I don’t have anyone else on my contract. So… I was with Vz for 8 years… had unlimited data, went to a store in Florida where the manager offered me a Note 2 for 199 (tag said 300+) also allowing me to KEEP my unlimited data contract … To get this deal I showed him I was interested in the Note 2… he looked up my Vz history…. and then I simply told him I was going to Straight Talk unless I could find a deal with Vz. … but even after this deal I was still dishing out $140 for unlimited text, data, and a high minutes calling plan ( including fees and taxes ) …. so I decided to switch to Straight Talk. Got a Nexus 4 (199 ) got the AT&T sim with unlimited (2 gig soft cap per month data ) … and have averaged 700 meg data (not even halfway into the max data soft cap) and … ok …. 2.3 GIG wifi per month…. yeah I stream a lot of music. But still I would never look back. The ONLY reason I would recommend anyone stay with VZ is if they can’t get service for Straight Talk where they live. But with Wifi everywhere… the only people needing high data plans are those on the road to NEW locations. Heck, even McDonalds has free wifi.
    — last two cents — IF you are a single guy / gal and don’t share your phone plan with another … ST is the best deal. IF you have more than two on your plan … then the unlimited data stuff with Vz like mentioned in this article makes better sense.

  • chris13417

    I’m not sure if anyone is still reading the comments to this article or not but I was wondering if I were to use method 2 (upgrade a dumbphone, activate new phone on dumb line, deactivate and switch to my unlimited line) will I be able to go in to a verizon store and ask for a new sim card and still be able to keep unlimited? I have a GNex with a micro sim card and don’t know if i want to risk cutting it with a nano sim cutter.

  • David N

    The Verizon wireless stores I went to have been of no help to me. My fathers line is eligible for an upgrade and he already has a tiered data plan. I wanted to use option number 2 as described above. The two store reps at two different stores and the one phone rep told me that if I upgraded his line, activated and then switched it to my line that it would be tagged as an “upgraded” phone and would cancel the unlimited data on any line it was attached to.
    Was I just lied to by 3 separate Verizon wireless employees? I’m afraid what they said may be true and spending the money and then losing the data seems like a scary proposition to me…
    Any suggestions?

  • Michelle

    I also got to keep my unlimited data. all i had to do was get a line for my son- which i was going to do anyway- and that qualified me for an upgrade (the main reason for all that). that allowed the rep to juggle everything around and keep my unlimited data. we got a basic phone for my son so all it cost was the $35 activation fee and now just $9.99/mo extra for the additional line.

    i didn’t even have to mention that i wanted to keep my unlimited data- she suggested it and i told her to go for it. i had already talked to a rep beforehand who explained the whole process, so i knew i was going to be able to keep it.

    the rep that i talked to beforehand was really cool, he even offered me the BOGO promo that had just ended the day before. it really does pay to get chummy with the reps. i would have gone back to him for the upgrade but i got the new Droid Ultra and it was only available at a Verizon Wireless store, and he was at an authorized dealer retail store and didn’t have the new phones yet.

  • JustinD2473

    I have a question….

    I have a 5 line family plan, all with smartphones, all with unlimitied data, ALL WITH AN UPGRADE AVAILABLE.

    I can’t add another line to my plan to transfer the upgrades, because 5 lines is the max.

    my question is, if I added a separate line to my account that was NOT part of the family plan, would I still be able to share the upgrades with that new line ??

  • rjw2

    I currently have a 1400 minute family plan with a company discount. The main line has a 4GB data plan and the 2nd line has unlimited data. The 4GB line is under contract until 6/2014 but the unlimited is month to month with an upgrade available. I would like to get a new phone for the 4GB line. Can I transfer the upgrade from the unlimited line to the 4GB line without losing the unlimited data or do I have to wait until the contract is up?

    Also, is it possible to change the unlimited data plan from the second line to the main line (switch phone numbers on the lines) without losing the unlimited data?

  • RussyJo

    However, I do hate that the unlimited data plan does not seem to allow wireless tethering without root. Dumb how verizon makes you upgrade to a tiered, limited data plan, just so you can use the features that DEMOLISH data.

  • RussyJo

    I have done option 2 about 4 times, in order to get a new phone every year. Me and my family have a deal, whomever lets me use their upgrade gets my current phone for free. Lets me keep unlimited data too.

    • Juan

      russyjo when you did the transfer of upgraded and you got the email confirmation did it showed the unlimited line phone number on the confirmation? i am just curios caused I transferred my upgrade and bought the phone with the dumphone line and wen’t trough the process smoothly but when I received verizon’s email confirmation it shows the Unlimited data line’s phone number there.

      • RussyJo

        I believe you have to activate the new phone on a different line and then LEAVE IT ON THAT LINE for 24 hours at least, THEN transfer it to you unlimited data line.

        Verizon thought about this so they added the 24 hour window to f*** people over.

        Dont remember the specifics of any email confirmations i received though.

        • Juan

          ohh ok thank you. Yeah well i ordered a phone online did the transfer to the dumbphone line and everything looked ok with the dumphone line number showing at checkout but when i received the confirmation email it said order status for line xxx-xxx-xxx which was the unlimited data one.

          • NoMoreNostalgia

            Did everything work out for you in keeping Unlimited?

  • troyboy162

    any word on option 1 working when your current phone is 3G? I dont have a 4G sim card yet

    • Michael Martin

      as far as I know, the change from 3g-4g wont work

  • Coop

    While looking to sell my Verizon unlimited data accounts I saw this Verizon unlimited data option on ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/How-To-Get-Unlimited-Data-On-Your-New-Existing-Verizon-Wireless-Plan-Bundle-/171081377878?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27d53ea856 I don’t know what the details are other than what I read in the seller’s description. You have to pay the $1 to get the fine print. May be an option for some but by all means proceed with all due caution…if it sounds to good to be true…

  • Michael Valadez

    So, I’m on the fence about paying full fare for a Moto X. I’m coming from a GNex which has had its share of problems. For anyone else in my boat, the latest build of the Shiny ROM (AOSP 4.3 from 9/2) may have just bought me a few more months.

    Thanks to all the DL staff and commenters. You guys are always informative and helpful.

  • acontreras426

    There is another option. The Verizon Device Payment Program. This program allows you to purchase a phone at full retail and spread the cost over 12 months. You keep unlimited data by going this route and don’t have to be hit with spending $600 – $650 up front. The only catch is you have to go into a Verizon store to take advantage of the deal and the whole time they will be trying to push you off of your unlimited plan and get you onto Edge. http://yourguide.vzw.com/devices/device-payment-plan/

    • MasterEthan

      Looking at the prices, it’s cheaper to “Add A Line” with the new smartphone, then swap it with a feature phone and only pay $9.99 a month for 24 months. You pay around $100-$160 less then the full price.

      • acontreras426

        That’s true but I didn’t want to be tied into a contract (all 4 of my lines are contract free now). That’s why I went with the payment plan. It could be useful for people who are off contract and don’t feel like renewing for another 24 months.

    • cg

      I did the Device Payment Program, and it is garbage!

      1) There is no easy way to separate device payments from the other charges in your bill. You have to call Verizon and let them know you are putting “x” amount toward it.

      2) If you replace the phone you bought with Device Payment Plan with another phone (such as the last one you replaced) and you want to do a warranty replacement, you can’t do it without going to a Verizon Corporate Store (and it has to be Corporate; no Authorized or Premium Resellers.) I ended up selling my phone for around the cost of the balance just so that I can enjoy the “Alternate Upgrade” method (Option 2, second method) described in the article above. The guy who bought it is happy, I’m happy, and I keep my unlimited data plan on that line. Yay!!

      But I do not recommend the Device Payment Plan/Program. It is garbage, through and through.

  • VZW fraud investigator

    Social engineering… pass it on.

    • Adam Medina

      Not breaking rules. Just finding loopholes. SUCK IT VERIZON I USE 30GB PER MONTH SUCKERS.

  • Asianflavor

    Alright, here’s my situation:

    Main account – Unlimited Data
    Second account – Unlimited Data with an upgrade

    Can I add dumb phone as a 3rd line and then trade the upgrade from the 2nd phone to this new one when the Note 3 comes out?

    • A.J.

      If you’re going to do that, you might as well just buy a cheap phone off of ebay (if you don’t already have a dumb phone) and then open a new line with the Note 3 and then put the dumb phone on the new line and use the Note 3 on one of the other lines. That way you keep your 2 upgrades.

      • Asianflavor

        I only have the one upgrade… I do have several dumb phones that I can use. So basically I should be able to add the 3rd line with no effect on the two other data plans. My wife wouldn’t mine having a dumb phone for an emergency and she is happy with her phone so I’m not worried about losing an upgrade.

        • A.J.

          Yeah as long as you don’t have any other promos you should be fine. I would just wait until the Note 3 is out and then buy it by opening a third line and then put one of your dumb phones on that new line and put the Note 3 on your line.

          • Asianflavor

            Thanks, A.J. What do you mean promos? I do have a company discount but other than that, nothing else.

          • A.J.

            Well like I got in on the Talk & Text Plus Data promo where they take $20 off of my data plan and I have that on 3 lines. If I would have done what you want to do I would have lost that promo because it would change my voice plan as they have updated those since the last time I upgraded. So for me paying full retail was the cheapest way for me to go to get the G2.

          • Asianflavor

            Ah…gotcha. Then I have no promo on my account and should be good. I’ll talk to the warden (wife) about this and should be good. She’s more worried about losing the unlimited data than me. I rather just jumped to T-Mo. Thanks again!

          • A.J.

            Just make sure they put the Note 3 on the $30 2GB individual plan when you add the new line so it doesn’t mess with your other lines. When you put the dumb phone on that line the $30 a month data plan will automatically drop off so you’ll only pay $9.99 extra a month.

          • FargoJoe

            A.J. – When you say “put the dumb phone on that line” can you give me more info? Can I do this through the web site?

          • A.J.

            Yeah, once you get the phone you want on the new line from the store or if you order it online once you get the phone in hand you can go to your account online and click manage device and it will allow you to change devices. It’s pretty straight forward.

  • Jason King

    I have a single line and I’ve tried every possible way to get a new phone at reduced price but I’m going to have to pay full retail, which I’m technically OK with. I gobble up data up and down; just depends on how much I’m on the road. With more and more things to stream (music, movies, etc), everyone’s data usage is only going to increase. Someone said VW removed the FM radio from the LG G2 because they can’t monetize it; which makes sense for them. I’ve tried every way to pay less for a new phone but in the end, I’m forced to either 1) lose my unlimited data 2) up my current old plan so I can add a 2nd line 3) pay full retail. Both options 1 & 2 will increase my monthly costs anywhere from $30 to $100 a month which is ridiculous. So my best option is to suck it up and pay full retail up front. It may cost me more up front, but it will be cheaper for me in the long run vs. those other two options.

    • verizonchris

      Usually, the least expensive way to get a new device and keep unlimited data would be to add a line. The increase in monthly cost is greater when going from a single line plan to a family plan, but the increase is usually less than what you would have to pay if you lost unlimited. I can take a look at your account if you would like. You can PM me on rootzwiki under the same username.

      • Jason King

        Thanks, but I had already had my brother try this. My plan is so old, I would have to bump my plan up then add the $10 new line. This would still cost me more over the life the new contract vs. buying the phone outright. If I didn’t have to bump my plan up from $40 to $50, it would’ve be worth it and cheaper…but it won’t work. Thanks though. I went ahead and bought the G2 at full retail today at lunch.

        • verizonchris

          I’m curious what plan you are on. There are very few out there that adding a line wouldn’t be cheaper on.

          • Jason King

            I have an old $40 plan with like 400/450 anytime minutes, unlimited nights and weekends, and unlimited mobile 2 mobile. Back then, $50 plan was the lowest plan for adding additional lines.

  • A.Miller

    Isn’t another option to buy a phone off of Swappa/eBay/friend and activate it? Would that ruin unlimited data for me?

    • faganm24

      Yes, absolutely. This is the same as buying full retail as far as Verizon is concerned. It may be a little more risky, but saves a lot of money.

      • David

        You mean no – the question was will this ruin unlimited data. This will not, but the rest of your response is correct.

        • faganm24

          I edited my response to clarify. I was answering the first question.

    • David

      No. You would not be starting a new contract, therefore they will not touch your data plan.

    • verizonchris

      Bringing your own phone to verizon that you bought used would not ruin unlimited data for you.

  • GJV

    For those who only have one line with unlimited, is it possible to add a line w/ a smartphone, then immediately transfer the new phone to my existing unlimited line and turn off the $30/month data plan on the new line? Or does the two year contract on the new line require you to maintain data service for the duration? I saw this basic scenario discussed below but I’d be concerned you would be stuck with paying for data service on the new line for the entire length of the contract.

    • verizonchris

      If you put a basic phone on the extra line you would not have to pay for the data plan on that line. I am more than happy to take a look at your account if you want. PM me on rootzwiki under the same username.

  • David

    We have 2 phones with unlimited data, no third phone. We are both up for renewal. Can she use mine and I use hers and keep our unlimited? Something tells me that would be too easy.

    • faganm24

      You would lose unlimited. The trick of upgrading with someone else’s contract is that the line you are upgrading either is a feature phone that you can upgrade to a smartphone, then swap the phone to your line and reactivate the featurephone OR you already have a smartphone line with tiered data and you upgrade and then swap. Any line that you upgrade that currently has unlimited will lose unlimited.

      • David

        That explanation was helpful. Thank you!

    • verizonchris

      No, you can’t. Whichever line the phone ends up on as a part of the upgrade would lose unlimited. If you have two lines that both have unlimited, you would have to add a third line to keep unlimited. It would only be an extra $9.99 per month so it is well worth it in my opinion.

  • Ron Perlman’s Jaw

    How can this be done when you are using phones with varying size sim cards? Let’s say my current phone has a micro sim, and the phone I want to upgrade to has a nano sim. Or vice versa.

    • MasterEthan

      Good point! Galaxy Nexus and Moto X are different size SIMs right?

    • verizonchris

      SIM card size doesn’t matter. When switching devices in the system, the correct size sim would have to be used. This might mean buying an extra sim card depending on who you talk to. I for one wouldn’t charge any DL reader for a sim card should they decide to buy a phone from me. SIM cards can also be reused if they are processed in the system correctly.

      • MasterEthan

        So if I add a new line, and get my Moto X. After I add the basic phone on the new line can I reuse the sim in the Moto X on my existing unlimited line? Which btw is a Galaxy Nexus.

        • verizonchris

          Yes, you can reuse the SIM card as long as it is process correctly in the system. There is a way to mark a sim unusable when taking it off the line.

          • MasterEthan

            If I change the new line to the feature phone online does it process correctly so that I can reuse the sim from the new moto x? Also can I activate the Moto X SIM on my existing unlimited line online as well?

          • verizonchris

            I’m not 100% sure when running it through myverizon since I have never done it that way. I would think you should be fine. The easiest thing to do would be to just let me process the upgrade and switch everything around for you 😉 I have already helped a few DL readers upgrade and keep unlimited.

          • MasterEthan

            Alright. I’m not ready right now to do anything but maybe in a few months. Are you an Verizon Employee or a Third-Party Verizon Retailer employee? Also wanting to wait to see if they’ll open MotoMaker up to Verizon by the end of the year.

    • David

      There was a post here on Droid-Life on how to do that. Essentially thought, it is doable.

  • Brett Wcislo

    I’ll have to try it when I get a chance.

  • Brett Wcislo

    This is awesome.

  • Ryan Ropero

    Or . . .
    Keep sending your under warranty phone back.
    For reals. I had some legitimate issues with my gs3.
    Memory Card wouldn’t stay mounted. VZW sent me a replacement.
    Random Reboots. VZW sent me a replacement.
    Phone getting hot. VZW sent me a replacement.
    Randomly Vibrates for no reason. VZW upgraded me into the GS4.

    The other option.
    I had insurance. “lost” my phone and filed a claim. Paid my $100. Asked if they had other options besides the current phone. They did. Got a better phone, free case, free car charger.

    This may sound like a pain but its worth it to keep my 40g a month addiction.

    Download all the things!!!!

  • gmx

    I just have one request in regards to this article as a vzw employee please don’t go into the store and ask a rep to do this for you. We do not get paid on alternate upgrades therefore you are wasting our time helping you to game the system. Do this online yourself if it is that important to you. You can come in after to switch the phones around just don’t do the upgrade in store. Also check your usage on vzw.com before you get all I NEED MY UNLIMITED DATA!!! I see if everyday people say that and I look at their usage and they use like 200MB/Mo. Also if you use unlimited data you are prob a techie and should be able to figure this out yourself. If you couldn’t you prob don’t need unlimited data.

    • SUMmaro400ex

      How you get paid, is not of interest to the customers who are getting ripped off by Verizon… Whether you use 14MB a month or 14GB a month, at the end of the day, Verizon is now charging way more, for way less and that’s just wrong. Why should someone be satisfied with 2GB for $30 when they used to be allowed unlimited GB for the same price?

  • You Stupid Fackers

    The problem with everyone here is that no one is showing Verizon the right way to conduct business. If everyone would just leave Verizon for another carrier, they might get the message eventually. I’d be sure to tell them in person why you’re leaving. I’m going back to my old carrier in November because of this change in Verizons business practices.

    • SUMmaro400ex

      I left. Took 5 total lines from them and went to TMobile. I actually just got an email from Verizon asking “what can we do to win you back”. I made a list, a LONG list, and will be calling them later to tell them why they are losing out on $250 a month ($6,000 over the course of a two year contract).

      Problem is if I’m the only one, it means nothing to them…

  • Ray

    Old family plan

    Line 1: unlimited data upgrade available on: July 2014
    Line 2: dumb phone upgrade available on: Jan 2012
    Line 3: dumb phone upgrade available on: Jan 2012

    Basically I can use my line 2 or 3’s upgrade on an LG G2 and sign up for a 2gb/$30 month plan then return line 2 or 3 back to dumbphone.

    My question is should I activate the phone on Line 2 then transfer or just pop my old sim from line 1 in as I currently own a SGS3? And if I do just pop my sim in, do I have to go back online into my account and remove the data plan from line 2 and put the ESN of dumbphone back in or just leave it as is since a phone was never activated on line 2?

  • tonerrrr

    Just did option 4 with an old LG enV ha. Being that I used a code to get the LG G2 on a two year contract for $140 + $10 in store pickup fee, switched it to my line, then just switched in the old enV with a pay as you go data plan.

    $150 for the phone, $35 for activation of the line, $240 for 24 months on the contract is $425 total paid for the phone without losing my data. So ultimately I’m saving $175.

    Without that initial activation fee I would have saved more, so in two years if it’s even still possible to do this, it should be cheaper for me. Also, I was already on a family plan.

    • A.J.

      I thought about doing something like this however I have the Talk, Text, and Data $20 per month promo on 3 of my lines ($60 a month I’m not paying) and if I would have put a new line on the account I would have needed to change my voice plan because apparently those went up as well so I would have lost that promo. So I would have paid $425 plus have to pay $20 more a month for my unlimited data. So for me paying full retail up front was the best way to go. Just on one line I save $480 over 2 years because I only pay $10 a month for unlimited data.

      • Kyle DeVaney

        Exactly the same thing here. Cant give up that free $40/ month for two lines of unlimited data.

  • Could this work if you have a relative with a separate account due for an upgrade but they want to keep their feature phone?
    My in-laws don’t want a smartphone and have never upgraded their phone (they use my old feature phone). So could I get a new phone on their line then move it to my account?
    Thinking about it maybe I should just add them to my account and cover the extra $10 a month so I can get a new phone more often.

  • RealisticConsumer

    If you use 100 gallons of gas a month, you pay for 100 gallons of gas. If you use 10 gallons of gas, you pay for 10 gallons of gas. Data is no different. Why should somebody who uses 1GB of data monthly subsidize those that use/abuse 50GB of data monthly ???

    • arthuruscg

      Because that is not now the TCP/IP system works.
      Honestly the way to do it would be to offer minimum data connection speeds( assuming good coverage) BUT allow us to hold carrier responsible for properly building the network.
      There is a great Youtube video

      Verizon artificially created the tiered data plans.

    • arthuruscg

      Here is a more accurate example. If you drive during rush hour, but I only drive between the hours of 8pm and 4 am. Why am I paying taxes to subsidizing road construction to increase capasity when you need it, when the road surplus capacity when I use it.
      So, if use data when the network has it’s lowest load, I should pay less then someone trying to use data during peak times.

  • Michael Martin

    Ok few questions/scenarios.

    I am on my own independent unlimited line. I had actually taken the buying outright route by buying a phone off ebay (got my gnex brand new for 400 shipped the december a few months from its release). My mother and grandmother are on their own account with my mother being unlimited as well with her droid 4 and my grandmother with a dumb phone.

    1st. If I had my grandmother upgrade her line since its available, get the phone, then return her line to her old dumb phone, could I then use the phone on my line or would my mom be the only one available?

    Also, verizon doesnt attempt to charge you the rest of the phones value if you use a upgrade to get the discounted price only to remove the phone from your line and put it on another?

  • Colby Edwards

    Question about second part of method 2 (or really upgrade transfers in general). If I transfer my upgrade to another line and use it would it affect their upgrade cycle at all?

  • chocolate8175

    Are they still offering the option to pay for your phone over the course of a year, monthly?

    • Tim242


  • Vu

    I’ve tried using my moms upgrade as she doesn’t have a smart phone. That’s how I grabbed the note 2. Verizon still try to make me lose unlimited data. But I kept calling around and a verizon rep was nice enough to give it back to me. But said next time I try to transfer an upgrade, I WILL lose unlimited data.

    • Tim242

      All you have to do is upgrade her line, put your SIM in the new phone, then reactivate her phone on her line. You don’t even need Verizon to do anything but the upgrade. You do the rest.

      • I have three lines, one is mine (unlimited) and my mother and grand mother) thats how we do it. then they get my usually 8-12 month old phone and i get the new hotness. ha

  • googlyeyedfrog

    Thank you for writing this well-written and concise article Kellen

  • btbk2010

    As a Verizon store manager I have 3 things to say. Yes, if you already have a second line that has either has 2gb of data or no data, the 2nd option is a no brainer (provided your sales rep has a brain of course). 2nd- Beware that if your sales rep does this, there may be a buy-back associated stuck to the store (Verizon screws us over too, if you are in-direct like I am of course). Third, Option 3 is NOT an option. I would keep every single one of my customers on Unlimited if I could, but I can’t. Hell, even if you bring the phone back within 14 days I have to fight Verizon to give you back Unlimited Data.

    3.5th thing to say. Droid Life, you should have ran this article a while ago, this is nothing new. My store has been doing these work around options since December…

  • Bradley Michael

    So I have a family plan with my dad that shares minutes, and I have unlimited data and he has tiered data. He wants to switch to T-Mobile or Sprint to cut costs. Is there any way to turn my family minutes plan into an individual account and keep unlimited data?

    • Tim242

      Unmm, switching from a family plan to individual plans will increase cost. Tell him no haha. But, once his line drops ooff, you can change the base plan without changing the data plan.

  • James Hill

    If you order the phone through the VZW website the phone will be sent to you in a non activated state. You can then proceed to place your sim card (if your current sim fits in the new phone, otherwise cut it) in the new phone. This works; since you already ran the upgrade through the non smartphone line the system will not automatically do a switch-a-roo on you. I’ve done this before and plan on doing it again.

  • Tim

    Just when I think I have got it….
    My Wife and I are both eligible for upgrade.
    I have unlimited…she has 4gb.
    Can I use her line to upgrade my phone to a Moto X and keep unlimited.
    Then take my upgrade that I had and use it to upgrade her phone to the Droid Maxx…and she then loses her 4gb of data and now only has 2gb of data?

    • Tim242

      No. If you upgrade your line, you lose it. You can only use one of the upgrades.

    • Dr. Idiot

      I think that this will actually work. well, i certainly hope it will, because i’m about to try almost the exact same thing.

      I talked to two VZW CSRs. one said no effing way, but he was also definitely factually wrong about some other things i tested him on. the other was surprised at the question and had to think about it, but eventually he said he couldn’t figure out why it wouldn’t work.

      my plan is: use my wife’s current upgrade to get her a galaxy s4 this week. wait til next month (next bill) and transfer MY upgrade to HER line. using HER line (4gb/mo) with her new upgrade (my transferred upgrade), order a galaxy note 3. once the note 3 arrives, activate it on her line, thus deactivating the s4. then reactivate the note 3 with my sim on my unlimited line. then reactivate her s4 on her 4GB line.

      honestly… why wouldn’t this work?

      the CSR who shut me down said that if i transfer my upgrade to any line at all, i will automatically lose unlimited, period…. which we all know is false. rather than argue with him, i just decided to disregard that and try again with a different person. the second person followed my logic and basically said “i dunno, it seems like it’s worth a shot”


      probably gonna try it regardless, heh.

  • Gordon

    I used my upgrade to get the LG G2 for $200 while keeping my unlimited data and what I did doesn’t seem to have been mentioned so far…this is what I did:

    I went to the Diamond Premium Verizon Retailer at AMC 16 Santa Anita and told the manager that I wanted to keep my unlimited data and use my upgrade. He told me that they had a special promotion where he adds a ghost line for $7/month, and me, and both my parents will all be able to upgrade our phones and all keep our unlimited datas. I am not entirely sure how this works, but I just got it done.

  • MetroGnome711

    So I had a crazy experience after reading this post today. My wife purchased the HTC One from Best Buy yesterday at full price to keep unlimited (the Blue so we can have the same phone and know which is which). However, last night we noticed the camera had some issues and decided we needed to return it this evening. During the day i read this post and thought why the heck not? So driving home i called customer service. The woman on the other end basically said: “if you go to Bestbuy, exchange the non-working phone and just buy it again at upgrade price, it will kill your unlimited data… but i will call you back at (given time) and re-add it for you.

    This sounded nuts and certainly couldn’t work. But the upgrade price of the phone is $49 vs. $700 at full retail, so we took a gamble.

    We returned non-functioned Blue One, and re-purchased through upgrade process. We signed away her unlimited plan. At the given time, no phone call was received. Sweating bullets as i’m not sure who the wife is going to blame, me or verizon.

    An hour after given time, the phone rings and the Verizon operator on the other end quickly and easily removed the 2GB plan, and re-added the 29.99 unlimited option.

    I’m still in shock that this worked, and certainly know that we took a HUGE risk moving forward this way, but suggesting the options listed above over the phone didn’t seem to work and she said this was the only way. Needless to say, super relieved that things worked out but please: TREAD CAREFULLY.

  • Macloven

    I bought a phone from vzw certified pre-owned which doesn’t renew your contract. You just have to check often as inventory varies. Cheaper than new,full warranty and no hassle.

  • nmac9

    I just dealt with all of this a few days ago… Due to some bizarre circumstances, I (18yo at the time) became the account owner of a plan with 1 unltd. line, 1 2GB line, and a 9.99 feature line. Both my unltd. and the feature had been renewed 2+ years ago on a BOGO phone deal and both ran up in April. I went in to get the G2 last week, and upon saying I wanted to upgrade, I was turned away saying I needed the account owner and administrator access to the account (due to not looking the part as a college soph.), which my line has.

    I finally got through to this lady that I was permitted to make changes, after checking my ID, providing the last 4 of the social on the line, and the account password. I said that I wanted to renew the feature phone, get the G2, and activate it on my line. I was sternly shot down and turned away being told “things no longer work like that” and that they “can revoke your unlimited data if they find you did that”.

    Realizing that this woman clearly hated making commission and that she wasn’t interested in helping me, I left disappointed and called customer service. I was told that it wasn’t an issue what-so-ever, to add the data package as I renewed the contract, then to call in when I had the device to have the ESN activated to my line. F*** that VZW rep for trying to sell me into the VZW Edge program for an additional $25/mo with limited data.

  • schlanz

    If this hasn’t been posted before, then it is long overdue. I’m kind of surprised this isn’t common knowledge at this point for DL readership. Still, it’s a good refresher for anyone with an upgrade coming up.

    I feel bad for all the sad bastards I’ve kicked off unlimited data when they could have kept it with one of these methods. This stuff is tracked in the stores so if you want a sales rep to process everything for you they may advise you to do it online.

  • ckdk44

    To be honest, I almost pulled the trigger today on a Maxx, just because battery was impressive and looking at all droid/moto x devices side by side. It was tempting. But the price tag is where it will hurt. I do say that these devices and any new ones out now are really pretty. But I have an unlimited data plan to look after, its my baby, cant go out and splurge willy-nilly! So I said to myself, ‘ if you are going to spend $500 + on a device you better be able to customize it. So i looked at the Moto X and said, ‘man your pretty just add my fav team colors on you and your perfect’. So got off that train wreck, my advice is if you have unlimited data and buying a new phone outright is the only way make sure its a phone you will LOVE…….for a couple of years at least =D

  • Brandon

    I guess I’ll be giving option 2 a shot once the Note 3 drops. Cheers for the information.

  • edmicman

    Just recently, I changed my plan from unlimited data to a share everything plan with 4GB. I was grandfathered in with two smartphones, 1400 shared minutes on a family plan, and a hodgepodge of text message allotments between the two of us…she had like 1000 messages and free in-network messaging, I had 500 and mobile to mobile or something. And my bill was ~$180 before corporate discount.

    I looked at my numbers and we weren’t coming close to using 2GB/month combined for the past 6 months. This is with me on a GNex and her on an iPhone, and I’m streaming music or podcasts on my commute most days. The share everything plan let me stop worrying about text messages and 4GB should give me plenty of headroom. And it’s costing me $150 before corporate discount.

    I realized the unlimited data thing was purely psychological – I didn’t want to lose it because I already had it, yet I realistically never would come close to using even a moderate fraction of what I could get at a much cheaper rate. Is it worth 30 bucks a month to have a clumsy old plan and data availability that I’ll probably never need to use? For me, no.

  • UncagedChipmunk

    You forgot one Kellen, I went to buy a DROID MAXX (which fried its screen in 6 hrs and its replacement was filled with bugs so I’m back on the Nexus) at full retail and they offered me the Device Payment plan. They spread the full cost of the phone in twelve equal payments plus a $24 dollar charge for the program. You first payment is due right then an there but they don’t touch you plan whatsoever. Yes, you pay $24 over the full price but it lessens the sting for most people who can fork out the full amount on the spot. I found it weird they offered it to me but I guess they want to make money somehow. Your account has to be in good standing though.

    • Adam Medina

      They offered this to me on the day they started it. It’s called Verizon Edge. I was swapping phones and needed a sim card or i wouldn’t have gone in. They said I would still lose my unlimited data package but they would offer me 6 GB per month for the price im paying now. But they also told me not to do it because my three month average was 19GB per month. So I don’t think this is an option for us unlimited data users.

      • Uncagedchipmunk

        We are not speaking about the same thing here. I am not referring to their Edge program which is a complete rip off. I am talking about the Device payment program which they rarely speak about to customers as it is a better option for unlimited data users.


        • Adam Medina

          Ahhh. Nice. Didn’t know there was 2 payment plan options. Thank you for clearing that up.

      • VetteVert

        No, it’s called the Device Payment plan. Edge is completely different.

  • moosc

    You forgot the device payment plan. It’s 2$a month to use this option but not a bad deal. I just did this for my lg G2.

  • djcs219

    What if you have two phones that are both able to be upgraded? You don’t want to lose unlimited data. I am confused how I would be able to keep my unlimited data. Won’t I have to get a third phone and when I do since I want a new smartphone I will have to pay the $30 for the internet access? Can someone help me out? Thanks.

    • Tim242

      If both of your lines are unlimited, you can’t upgrade either to keep unlimited. You can add a 3rd line, it adds a $30 2GB plan to that extra line. Then, swap SIM’s. Then, all is left is to find a non smartphone to put on the extra line. Then, you just pay $10/month for the extra line

  • Nathan Devall

    Also I used to work at Best Buy so I know how to finagle the systems so unlimited data can be kept so if anyone has questions let me know

    • Mark Faustino

      You mean finagle the systems in which we would pay the discounted price *AND* still keep unlimited data?

      • Nathan Devall


    • Dinky Peterlage

      Yes, I want to get the HTC One at Best Buy for $50 and keep my unlimited. I didn’t want to think I was wasting my time talking to a blue shirt about it.

      • Nathan Devall

        Just to clarify the upgrade must be on any other line but yours. If you really can transfer upgrades between lines on verizon’s website (I didn’t know this was possible but if it is that is awesome) then it’s quite easy to keep the unlimited data while still getting a subsidized phone in a Best Buy. If the person in store doesn’t know how to do it it’s simple. You basically are “upgrading” the other line on your account that has the upgrade to whatever phone you want to get. Then they go back in the system and put the previous device for that line onto that line. That frees up the phone you just bought to now be hardware swapped (this doesn’t touch the data on your line since you aren’t signing a contract for this part of the process) onto your line and thus keeping the data but still getting the upgrade price.

    • Adam Medina

      I see on the best buy website when I put in my verizon info it says they can sell me a discounted phone and keep my current data plan, but I didn’t trust it. They can upgrade me and let me keep my unlimited data??????

      • Nathan Devall

        No if you upgrade a line directly with unlimited data you will lose it (unless it’s an error) or if you go into a Best Buy and have them just do an alternate upgrade so you get a new phone but use another line’s upgrade that also loses the unlimited. The method I described above is a way to keep it. It’s basically an alternate upgrade done the harder/manual/long way because Best Buy has a button in their system for alternate upgrades but it removes unlimited data. Swapping hardware manually does not though.

        • Adam Medina

          But can I still buy the phone at the subsidized pricing?

          • Nathan Devall

            Yes. As long as you don’t use YOUR upgrade you can keep it. It requires work arounds like I described above or in the article here

  • Dustin Casper

    Most “OBVIOUSLY” post evar from DL.

  • Nathan Devall

    The easiest way I have found to keep my unlimited data is to order a phone from Bestbuy.com under the line that has the upgrade (in my case it is one of my family members that either has a feature phone or a non-unlimited data plan) and then when it comes to my house I pop my SIM card in it and voila it is now my phone with unlimited data and never touches or affects the line that had the upgrade. This is by far the easiest way to do it. This won’t obviously work if your SIM card doesn’t fit the new phone but you can always cut/punch it down to size or go to verizon and have them activate the new SIM on your line.

  • richkoos

    So the way I got my htc one at contract price and kept unlimited data was by opening a new line on our family plan with no phone attached to it. They made it a demo unit or something, and the plan is only $10 a month + $35 activation. So in the end I paid $200 for the one, and I am going to pay $10 a month for the next two years. Which adds up to be $475 over the two years, which I think is way better than spending $600 all at once, and in 2 years I can upgrade this number again or use my upgrade finally.

  • Jason Self

    Here’s what I am wondering about getting a phone at Costco.
    The phone you get there is the wholesale cost of the phone.
    You only pay tax on what the phone cost…so if the phone is $200
    then the tax is biased on $200.
    After you buy the phone you walk back to the phone area and they
    set up a new contract.
    The thing is – if your rep at Costco is willing – they will set you up for
    an added line for $10 per month on a dumb phone just like in “option 2”

    They just want to get the 2 year contract. Weather or not it is for a
    smartphone or a dumb phone.
    So what I am getting at is: Why could we not …
    1 buy the phone at the register
    2 walk to the phone area
    3 setup an account with an old phone for $10 per month (add a line)
    and 2 year contract.
    4 use new smart phone for unlimited account
    5 go home
    6 cancel account for dumb phone and pay 175 ETF for dumb phone
    7 ????
    8 profit from the savings over the cost of buying a phone at full cost

    • Tim242

      Not so fast there. If you cancel the line, it’s $350, not $175.

      • Jason Self

        It is 175 to cancel a dumb phone line
        Moreover in step 3 an account was set up for a dumb phone
        therefore the fee would be 175

  • jownzy

    Well, too bad this post wasn’t made around the lunch hour. Just went in and bought a full price Maxx. For the 30 minutes it took for them to sell it to me at full price, they certainly did the hard sell trying to convince me I didn’t need unlimited and nobody thinks they need that much data anymore, blah blah blah. I have 5 lines on my plane, two of them are dumb phones which don’t require their upgrades.

    Right before they cutoff the upgrade with unlimited two years ago, I used all the upgrades to buy SG3’s and sell them for profit. I’m not sure why I didn’t think of this this time around.

    Now I wonder, should I go back to the store try and “return” the device and re-buy it with an upgrade? I guess I’d have to pay the 30 dollar restocking fee, but I could still potentially save a couple hundred dollars.

    I’m not real interested in extending my contract with Verizon, so I may just be satisfied with option 1.

    • Tim242

      They don’t even try to tell me that I don’tneed unlimited haha

  • David’s

    one question. i have a family plan with my wife. i have unlimited data; she has 4 gb x month. i have an upgrade available she does not. mine is a note 2; hers is a gs4. can i transfer my upgrade to her, order one phone then switch sim cards and keep unlimited data?

    • Tim242

      Upgrades don’t transfer. Your line would be upgraded, and contract extended on your line. It is a cross upgrade, meaning upgrading your line, but phone goes to the other line. So unfortunately, your plan won’t work : (

      • DanSan

        what he said is exactly what kellen described in method #2…

        transferring his upgrade to a dumb line or a phone u dont care about.

        Back in april i used my moms upgrade, extended her contract on her dumb phone and stole the S4 from it, reactivated her dumb phone.

        Now i have an upgrade on my line. I dont want to use it because ill lose my unlimited data but my mom wants a new phone soon. I am going to transfer that upgrade to her and let her do what she wants with it. this way it shouldnt affect my line at all.

  • IanAndersonLOL

    You forgot the adding a new line to your family plan and having them put the ESN of an old dumb phone you used to have on it so you don’t have to pay for data, just the $9.99 dumb phone charge, and put the new smart phone onto your primary line.

  • yummy

    Time to make the donuts

  • mcdonsco

    I have another method that I just used that worked too…best method so far.

    Setup a new $10/month line, got the phone, then changed NUMBERS on accounts (not phones), then changed phones, then changed numbers back…the new contract went onto my unlimited plan and I was able to cancel the $10/month plan with no etf and kept the new phone…this results in a new contract on the unlimited data line, but who cares?

    • tomn1ce

      What happen to the other data plan. In order to get a smartphone you have to get a data plan….

  • Regarding option 4. If, I go to, say Amazon Wireless, open a new line and buy a discounted new smartphone like the HTC One here:


    It’s $49. Activate and then cancel the service, pay the $350 ETF. Now, the $649 HTC One becomes $399. Will that work?

    • Ray

      I was thinking the same thing! anyone know if there is a problem here?

      • Dusty

        Yes it will work but you have to remember that you have to cancel after 14 days in order to keep the device. So to add some missing fees. $49 for phone + $350 for ETF + $35 Activation Fee + Prorated amount of monthly bill (Assuming you go with lowest shared plan of $80 for 500mb??? and paying 1/2 of that for 15 days of service = $40) so you are looking at roughly$475 or with taxes rounding up $500 ish… and for Amazon remember they charge a double ETF if im not mistaken if you change something within 6 months can’t remember but double check their fine print.

        • Tim242

          Nope. Amazon charges a separate ETF. You’d pay them and Verizon.

      • Tim242

        No. Amazon also has an ETF.

    • Tim242

      Nope, Amazon charges a separate ETF than Verizon. So, you’d be hit twice.

  • Sam

    Here’s my scenario.

    Two Lines: $139.99 unlimited data/text, 1400 minutes 3rd Line: $9.99 plus $29.99 unlimited data MINUS $20 data discount.
    4th Line: Standard $9.99 plus $29.99 unlimited data.

    3 lines are month to month, my line is not upgradable until Jan 2014.

    3 of the people are looking to leave to other family plans because they use next to no data.

    How can I get one of their upgrades before they leave and retain my unlimited? Trying to get down to one line.

    • Tim242

      TIf you use their upgrade, it extendsthe contract on that line.e

  • Chippah

    Can Anyone help with my scenario?

    Line #1 Gnex Upgrade AVAILABLE
    Line #2 Gnex Upgrade Available on 02/14
    Line #3 dumb phone on month to month.

    I need to turn the 2 gnexes into Note 3s and keep unlimited.
    Do I have any options?


    • Aj Bastedo

      yes…upgrade the dumb phone line,..get a note 3
      put the note 3 on line 1
      transfer line 1’s upgrade to the dumb phone line….get a note 3
      wait til 2/14 to get your third note 3 by transfering the upfrade again to the dumb phone

      • Chippah

        Aj, Thank you sir! You are the mane, and this finally makes sense now. This here is a PLAN!
        Cheers to you !
        Now I dont have to listen to the old lady bitch and moan when i sit there with my Note 3 while she still rocks the gnex with the shattered (but still running) screen.. Bububububu Boooyah! Double gunz! pew pew!

      • Tim242

        You can’t transfer upgrades and keep unlimited.

  • Riza

    Or you can do the option I do, get a best buy credit card buy the phone from them purchases over 300$ are 6 months no interest. pay it off in monthly installments before the 6 months is over not any cheaper but at least it don’t hit you all at once. also as they added bonus become a reward zone member and get yourself points towards best buy gift certificates in which you can buy more stuff 😉

    • Riza

      As a added bonus

  • Aj Bastedo

    HELP!…this is my senario and my question:
    Line A: unlimited data …month to month..upgrade available
    now i have old feature phones…what if i added a line and activated one…and then transfered my upgrade….to the dumb phone…whats my best option to get the upgrade…and how much would i have to pay for the dumb line….and could i cancel the dumb line after the upgrade is complete?

    • Nathaniel Newman

      I’d use the Add a Line option. Is cheaper up front. But it does add up over the years.

      • Aj Bastedo

        so id have to pay 9.99$ for 24 months? is the etf for a dumb phone the same cost?

        • Nathaniel Newman

          You’d be using that new line for a lower cost Smartphone buy. So ETF is based on smartphone purchase. No matter if you put a feature phone on it or not. $350.

          • Aj Bastedo

            just got done talking with vzw….i could add a dumb phone line with one of my old dumb phones…upgrade asap…switch the phone over…and just pay 9,99 for the added line a month for 24 months…

          • Nathaniel Newman

            You got it. I did that 2 years ago to get the Bionic.

  • Nathaniel Newman

    I did option 2. It was painless. I wanted to get the free Commando 4G to go along with my Galaxy S4. So I used one of my upgrades on my 3 line account. Bought and activated on that line. Then swapped SIMS to my phone. Called VZW had Data dropped and feature phone put back on.

  • TheDrunkenClam

    Great.. Now if only Verizon had a device worth upgrading to. As in not locked down all to hell. And the Moto X has only 16gb storage. Is there not a 32gb version or have I missed something here?
    16gb.. You guys can’t be serious here.

  • Bryant

    Option 4 would be a real pain.

    There are so many automatic fees in place that you’ll be calling back for months getting each one waived. My situation. Preordered the MAXX. Canceled before it shipped and was told everything is A-OK. I was slapped with activation ($35), device cost ($300), ETF ($350), 1st Months fee ($110), pro-rated current months fees (~$50 or whatever).

  • RepsolRider

    Line 1 (mine) unlimited – upgrade available
    Line 2 (wife) 4GB plan – upgrade available.

    If I upgrade line 2 and then move that new device to line 1 what happens to my other upgrade? Does line one still have it? I want to upgrade both devices, keep unlimited on line one and not pay full price for either. Is this possible to do?

    • Tim242

      Yes, that will work just fine. All you have to do is swap SIM’s.

      • RepsolRider

        So after I upgrade line two and move the new phone to line 1, I will still have an upgrade left on line one? that I can then transfer to line 2 and upgrade that one again.

        • Tim242

          I’m sorry, I misread your post. You can’t use line 1’s upgrade at all, without losing unlimited. A cross upgrade extends the contract on the original line, not the one that gets the phone. So, only one upgrade is possible. You can add a line though, if you can find a dumb phone to put on it. Then, you are only out $10/month.

          • Cameron

            I have been told at least by a few managers in my area at Verizon stores that if you “give” the upgrade to line 2 from line 1 you won’t lose unlimited data. That is what I was told by a few people.

            Go into a Verizon store talk to a few people and ask the coolest one and they will probably get you what you need.

          • Tim242

            Line one cannot be upgraded without losing unlimited…unless a manager goes against policy. The contract applies to the line with the the upgrade, not the line the phone goes to.

          • RepsolRider

            Well in that case, I guess it’s new phone for me! In about 6 months or so, when my wife can’t stand her gnex anymore, she can have my phone and I’ll have to suck it up and pay full retail or add a dumb phone line.

  • luthi3n

    Went into a Verizon store today and asked about option 2. Was told it wasn’t possible. Two lines on the family account. I currently have an S3 with unlimited and am eligible for an upgrade. My father is the other line on the account. We asked if I could transfer my upgrade to him, have him get the new phone on his line with tiered data, and then just swap my S3 with the new phone he got. The rep said we couldn’t do it and Verizon Customer Service said the same thing on the phone. But from reading #2, it sounds like what we tried and others are saying it’s possible. Were we getting the run around?

    • Tim242

      It would have to be his line eligible, for it to work. If you transfer your upgrade, your line is still the one that gets the contract. You can add a line, put your SIM in the new phone, then put a dumb phone on the added line. Then, you pay $10/mo for your new phone.

  • My new strategy: buy last year’s device on eBay. Then put CM on it. My new(old) S3 >>>> the Gnex I replaced it with.

    Next year around this time, I will . ve this summer’s hottest device, so long as it runs CM.

    Of course, if Verizon does kill my unlimited, i will be gone

    • Oh, and the best part is that Verizon doesn’t make any money selling phones to me (I know profit margins are slim but still).

  • Altnine

    Okay so i have a question. This is all fantastic news, because i plan on getting a new phone in the near future. My parents both have unlimited data currently. I currently have a tiered plan of my own. If they were to add a new line, not just a feature phone, say the Moto X, would that new line also get the unlimited data?

    And if so, since their upgrades are coming up soon, they have the 4s now, possibly want to upgrade to the 5s this weekend, would option 2 of the above instructions work on my newly acquired unlimited line?

    • Tim242

      An added line gets the 2GB tiered plan. You can just put your SIM in the new phone, put a dumb phone on the extra line, only out $10/month.

      • Altnine

        Thank you. 🙂

  • Ian

    If you have an older family plan like my wife and I (2 smart lines on unlimited). You can add a new line (up to 5 lines total for our plan), purchase the smart phone on that new line and then transfer the new phone to one of our original smart lines and place a dumb phone on the new line. In our case I didn’t have a dumb phone handy so the VZ employee put a dummy test number on the line. At the end of the day I got the new device for $200 + $10/mo. for 24 months on the new line, so $440 for a $600 device ($240 of which is spread out). I keep my unlimited data and this doesnot extend my contract. (Yes, i now have a line on my account that is under contract for 2 years) If I want to leave I can ETF that new line and still come out under $600 for the device.

    And as a bonus we can use the new line as an emergency line if we lose a phone or something or even give it to a family member who could use a phone, maybe the family/friend would even pay you the $10 for access since it just pulls from our 700 mins shared and unlimited text.

    • Tim242

      ^^^Best Option^^^

    • Frank512

      I guess this only works if you already have a family plan? I have an individual plan and I can’t seem to find any way to add a line without switching to shared data plan.

  • 213ninja

    i can confirm that when using the second (online) method described in option 2 that there is no need to activate the new phone on your dummy line first. just slap your sim card in that summamabitch and you’re done. i have done this at least 5 times with zero issues over the past 2 or 3 years.


    How come you skipped used phones? Craigslist? eBay? Swappa? All used LTE phones will work on unlimited data accounts. I do this all the time. Why pay $650 for a device, when you can get a barely used one on Swappa for $400

  • they call me Rob

    I currently have 3 devices – my GNex (contract ends 12/2013), wife’s iphone 4 (month to month) and a feature phone for my mother-in-law (month to month). I’d like to upgrade my GNex and the wife’s iphone but since there’s only one feature phone, that means only one of us can shift the upgrade, right? We both have individual UNLTD data plans, so one of us would need to lose it – if I understand this correctly? OR I can just upgrade one of ours and pay full retail for the other device (even over 12 months, non-EDGE).

    I’m leaning toward an HTC One, but I’m holding out for it to be unlockable and rooted. The Wife already told me she wants an Iphone 5S so we’ll have to decide which one gets the upgrade – but how do I get the SIM into the iphone?

    • they call me Rob

      or do I just go full retail on both and eat the cost. Ugh.what a PITA.

    • Tim242

      You will have to get a nano SIM for the iPhone. That, or get her a Moto X haha

  • LiterofCola

    Paid full retail, totally worth it.

  • Haqodeshim

    Having worked as a VZW CSR through AFNI and being a former SME (Subject Matter Expert – reworked bills and had to proficient in policy), I can tell you that GRANDFATHERED means they can’t take it away from you. I have an AT&T account personally, and when I went to upgrade my last smartphone the clerk behind the counter started to say, “Well we need to get you a new data plan!” And immediately I said, “I have the unlimited data plan, and it’s GRANDFATHERED and so you are changing nothing” and he got a “shocked” look on his face, but then proceeded to upgrade my phone and leave my GRANDFATHERED unlimited data plan in tact.

    Basically, technology wise is the only way any WSP could change your Grandfathered feature. VZW was full of little companies that they acquired and bought, and customer’s still had Grandfathered features going back to those little companies, and they COULD NOT CHANGE THEM, by policy and law.

    The on exception was the old analog car and bag phones – once everything went digital, the customers were forced to upgrade to digital phones, because analog service was being phased out by the US Government itself, who had ordered it done by such and such a date.

    Now if the US Government or the WSP comes up with some NEWER technology and frequency upon which to use your data access, then in theory they could FORCE you to upgrade, and lose your Grandfathered feature, and when I left 4G was coming into existence over there, and they might forbid you to get a new 4G phone with SIM card without changing the data plan from your previous 3G phone which didn’t have the new CDMA SIM card.

    However, over at AT&T they already had SIM for the GSM, and you really only need to upgrade for travel overseas to access GSM or CDMA frequencies, but domestically you are okay.

    Basically last I heard VZW was throttling towers to slow them down when traffic got to heavy, verses AT&T throttling USERS once they passed a certain GB threshold of data but consider how small AT&T’s real 4G network is, I use WIFI as much as possible as it is 52 times faster on a good day, especially here at home. So I’ve not been throttled yet, and even if that happens, well at the end of the month it resets.

    • Tim242

      AT&T lets you keep grandfathered unlimited when you upgrade. Verizon does not.

      • Haqodeshim

        Apparently, you can keep that unlimited data plan on VZW, and here is how:

        http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57564716-94/unlimited-verizon-data-customers-beware-make-sure-your-next-phone-is-4g/ – unless they changed the policy since this posting in January.

        • Tim242

          Not if you upgrade. That article is mostly about throttling. LTE isn’t throttled. The author was saying to avoid throttling, be sure to get a 4G device…but you have to get it subsidy free

        • Zach B.

          Tims right. Not if you upgrade. Second, that article is hilarious, as Verizon hasn’t sold a single 3G only smartphone since late 2011/early 2012, kinda making the whole point moot.

  • Tim242

    Option 5: Add a line, put SIM into new phone, put a non smartphone on the extra line. That way, you can remove the 2GB data plan from the new line. Then, you only pay $10/month.

  • ushneb

    Option 2 would work only if the line eligible for upgrade was the feature phone line. The new device would go to the unlimited line and the contract, the feature phone line. If, for example, we used the example of buying a new device on contract for the feature phone line, with the contract going to the unlimited line, the contract itself would eliminate the unlimited data because you can’t extend the contract on an unlimited line whilst keeping unlimited. At least that’s how it has been for a long time unless something have changed in the past year.

  • SoccerRef12

    This is really a great comprehensive list of options! Thanks!

  • SchnitzTech

    I was just able to get my Droid Maxx using EDGE (payment plan) without loosing my unlimited data (my lines contract just went month-to-month) because of a company discount. I guess some companies have an arrangement with VZW that lets employees keep the grandfathered unlimited data. Helps that I work on the campus of a certain major hardware/software company in the Redmond, WA area that has a lot of pull. Either that or the sales guy was just able to give me a major hook-up.

    • Tim242

      There’s a difference in edge, and payment plan. Maybe you are just on the payment plan…everybody keeps unlimited on that.

      • SchnitzTech

        Just verified. It is EDGE. Shows I’ve paid 5% of it off so far. Upgrade is available at 50%. Strangely enough my data plan is listed as “Unlimited Blackberry/EVDO” on my wife’s (iphone 5) and my (D-Maxx) lines. All I care about is that it’s unlimited and only costs $20 per month per line.

        • Tim242

          I hope for your sake that all goes well. But usually, you have to have an LTE data plan on LTE phones. Cross your fingers!

  • jmiranda3983

    I get my upgrade through my third party insurance and with my phones on the 3rd tier which is the highest I get any phone I want for the deductible price of 140. Insurance is called esecuretel. Did it to go from Galaxy nexus which believe it or not was a 3rd tier device to my note 2 and plan to do it again for my note 3. Brother went same route to get his droid 3 replaced by an s3.

  • Daniel Russell

    BTW, according to the jerk of a manager at my local store in LA, I was not allowed to do the second method in store. He told me flat out that you couldn’t do this option anymore without altering the data plan of the line with unlimited. He did tell me that you can do this online or by calling Verizon and having them upgrade which I successfully did giving me my new Droid Maxx. So you’ll probably have to check with the local store/if your store’s manager is a douche.

  • kashtrey

    Here’s a question somewhat related to Option 2: Can I have a friend who has an upgrade available to a non-smartphone line on a completely separate plan upgrade their phone to a smartphone, give them the money for it, and then have them go back down to a non-smartphone? So it’s not really a transfer per se, they are just upgrading their dumb phone line to a smartphone which I will purchase for/from them, and then immediately downgrading back to a dumb phone. My big concern is, will they be able to downgrade back to a completely dumb phone line.

    • Ian

      That should work. Only thing to make your friend aware of is if they want to cancel before their contract expires is that they will have to pay the smartphone ETF fee $350 minus $10 for each month paid, opposed to the dumbphone ETF which is like $170 minus $5 for each month.

      • kashtrey

        Awesome. Now just to wait out moto maker for Verizon.

  • IBT

    I just did this by way of upgrading another line on my account from the web. When the new phone arrives, simply power down YOUR phone, remove SIM, place in newly arrived phone and you’re done. You activate and assume the new phone, the phone you used to upgrade with reverts to its original state. Any data plan you chose will automatically fall off if its a dumbphone. Easy, no contacting of Verizon required.

    • mh0520

      Not waiting for the dev edition moto x or a 32G version? I’m tempted as well. How are you planning to deal with no SIM in the droid incredible? Going to go to the store and get one once you get your new phone?

      • mh0520

        Never mind. Some weird glitch on here is saying that that you’re not who you are…mn bad.

  • umbrellacorp

    So, what if I don’t have multiple lines on my account? It’s just me.

    • Tim242

      You’re screwed : ( full price, or payment plan for you!

  • JBartcaps

    What about financing plans offered by Best Buy and Amazon and other places. Pay off ful, retail over 18 months

    • Ian

      Plus financing fees

  • “Keep in mind that even if you transfer your upgrade to another line and then use the upgrade, you are extending your contract on the line which the upgrade originated”

    This concerns me. I was going to upgrade twice on one line within a 1 week period. 1) use my wifes feature phone upgrade and get me a MotoX. 2) transfer my upgrade to her line then try to upgrade again on her line and get her a Moto X. The above quote from the article makes me think i couldn’t do that. thoughts?

    • Tim242

      You can only upgrade a line once every 24 months. Upgrade = contract.

      • um. I’ll have to disagree with you on that. otherwise, why would they even have an option to transfer an upgrade at all. the point of the transfer is to upgrade any phone on your account at anytime. say my phone breaks but my wife has an upgrade and I’m still under contract. I can steal her upgrade and get a new phone at discount price rather than pay full price. I would have thought I was extending my contract but according to Kellex I’d be extending my wife’s contract.

        • Tim242

          That’s correct. It extends the line that is upgraded. I’m saying that you can only do that once every 24 months

          • so my plan won’t work according to you but will according to Kellex. who to listen to here? I don’t know.

          • Tim242

            You are misunderstanding what he’s saying. If you have 2 lines, with only one of them eligible for upgrade, you can only use that upgrade once. Once you use her upgrade to get your phone, her line is no longer eligible for an upgrade for 24 months.

          • Tim242

            You can’t transfer an upgrade, if both are eligible for upgrade.

          • I was only going to transfer an upgrade when only 1 had an upgrade. not when both. the whole 24 months can’t transfer upgrade is really killing my theory. a VZW chat rep even suggested I do this whole plan once the moto x comes out on moto maker on Verizon.

          • Tim242

            I’m still not sure that will work. If you upgrade her non unlimited line, then move it to your line, all will be good. But, to use your upgrade, transferred or not, you will lose unlimited.

          • just goes to show how much you can trust info from aVZW chat Rep I guess. good convo.

          • I figured out the best option. Buy a 3rd line. Yes it will cost me $9.99 (old plans) but with my wife’s employee discount on data, it’ll only cost about $5 more per month. And I still get to keep my unlimited. AND it still costs less than going to tiered (which really wasn’t an option to begin with for me IMO).

  • Detonation

    If you like to upgrade often Full Retail is the way to go. Keep your phone in good shape and you can sell it for $300-500 after 6-12 months, making the net cost of the next full retail purchase only a couple hundred dollars – not much more than the on contract price.

    • ben7337

      Except you’re paying that $200-$300 every 6-12 months, which is quite a lot of money, and if you kept it for 2 years the same as you could keep it on a contract then you’d be paying the $600 vs the $200. Also current phones are holding value longer. A used GS3 on verizon is still $250-$300

      • Detonation

        Right, but if you like to upgrade often (more than once every 2 years) it’s going to cost you more either way.

  • nickyb

    Anyone wanna buy 1 or all 4 unlimited data lines on verizon?

  • Has anyone tried/had success with using a mobile device with unlimited data as your home’s primary internet connection? Here’s why: I moved two lines from a gloriously large and feature-filled corporate account after I left that company. Long story short, only one line kept unlimited data (my wife’s; unlimited data for $20…yes $20 per month). Of the tens of thousands of gigabytes she could be using each month, she uses about half a gig per month. Our current home network is through AT&T’s notoriously-awful Uverse “service” (12/2MBps for around $56/month that normally clocks in around 9MB/.5MB). FiOS is NOT available in my area (or I’d jump on it). If I were to move my wife to a different line and tether from her current line, I’d double my maximum down speed, increase my up speed ten-fold, and save money. Thoughts?

    • Tim242

      I do it. I dropped Uverse internet a few months back. I have used 60 GB this month. I figured that since I have to double pay Verizon, might as well use it.

  • John Suh

    Avoid the store in College Park, MD at all costs!

    The manager played me for 30 minutes, trying to get me to buy every single accessory for the Droid Maxx, then proceded to tell me that an “alternate upgrade” was not possible. I told her, “yes it most definitely is”, and could not persuade her. After asking her to simply transfer my upgrade to a dumbphone line and leave my data plan alone, she finally consented to do so and only upgrade that line. I repeatedly asked her to avoid changing my unlimited data plan on my line and simply add a 2GB plan to the dumbphone line.

    After she hands the phone to me, I see that I no longer have unlimited data and have been switched to a 2GB plan on MY LINE! She essentially lied to my face the whole time. I got another manager to switch everything back to normal and that manager even goes as far as telling me I am “cheating the system” and says people like me should not keep unlimited.

    The kicker: after all that is finished and my unlimited data is restored and I am Droid Maxx-less, she then charges me a restocking fee of $35.

    I am done with VZW stores

    • Tim242

      Next time, upgrade the line, and just switch the SIM cards. You then log onto your account and put the dumb phone back on the line it was on.

  • dprk

    There is another option that I use. A lot of people use an available upgrade on their accounts to buy the latest phone, then sell them at full retail price for a profit on Craigslist. Buy it there after the phone is released and you should pay slightly less than the full retail price and NO TAX! Win!

    • Detonation

      So you’re selling the phone only to just buy it again? Why not just keep it and switch it to your line? That way you keep your warranty and don’t have to deal with craigslist. You can’t be saving that much to make it worth it.

      • dprk

        Sorry let me clarify. I don’t mean I’m using my upgrade. I’m just saying there is another option for people who want to get the latest phone without losing unlimited data. For example, I want a Verizon Note 3 when it comes out but I don’t want to lose unlimited data nor do I have an upgrade available. To get the phone, cheaper than the most expensive option above, which is to buy at full retail, I would buy from Craigslist to save some plus the not pay tax. 🙂

  • hfoster52

    Another way if you have a Family plan, have an old flip phone, and have a new line open get a new smart phone and then swap it out for a flip phone. They will drop the data off the new line because it has a phone that cannot use data. Issue with this you are stuck with an extra line with no use but at a cheaper rate than moving into a share anything plan. (There is a rumor you can do this with a ghost IMEI number)

    I call this operation desperation.

  • Sixto Manuel Hernandez

    amazon wireless is letting me keep unlimited data.

    • Travis Keany


    • DJ ILLusive

      I keep reading the same thing and did a trial order on Amazon for an HTC One and verified the same thing, although I didn’t finalize the order. So you logged into your VZW account and does it say you still have unlimited data and your contract is now good til 2015? Let us know! Werd.

  • ddh819

    should this work with a home phone connect as a 2nd line?

  • Stephen Cox

    I have two different accounts, one with a feature phone (I used it to get a GN2 on contract and then activate a feature phone for my father-in-law to use), and the other one is the main account with 5 smartphones, all unlimited.

    I know old family shareplans have a max of 5 lines, but can I merge the feature phone with the original account under a separate plan? I could have sworn you could do this in the past. And, if you can, can you transfer the upgrades between phones on different plans? Or do they have to be on the same voice plan?

  • dgarra

    I bought a used S3 for $200 as an upgrade. I’m good with it.

  • Chad Baker

    I’m on the unlimited data plan but with only 1 line so I’m hosed. I have not found a cool manager in San Diego that has been willing to work with me. For now I guess I will keep messing with my rooted GNEX

    • Chad Baker

      Does anyone know of a cool manager in San Diedo that will upgrade my phone without losing my Unlimited data?

  • Ethan Hartman

    So, let me get this straight. If I am on a VZW family plan w/ unlimited data, and one of the other lines wants to upgrade (they don’t care about keeping unlimited data), them upgrading won’t cause me to lose unlimited data on my line?

    • Exactly.

      • Ethan Hartman

        This is great news. Here’s to hoping I’ll be able to get a Verizon Moto Maker Moto X off-contract…

        Thanks Kellex!

      • Ian

        Hey Kellen,

        Another thing to consider posting is if you have an older family plan like my wife and I (2 smart lines on unlimited). They can add a new line (up to 5 lines total), purchase the smart phone on that new line and then transfer the new phone to one of our original smart lines and place a dumb phone on the new line. In our case I didn’t have a dumb phone handy so the VZ employee put a dummy test number on the line. At the end of the day I got the new device for $200 + $10/mo. for 24 months on the new line, so $440 for a $600 device ($240 of which is spread out). I keep my unlimited data and this does not extend my contract. (Yes, i now have a line on my account that is under contract for 2 years) If I want to leave I can ETF that new line and still come out under $600 for the device.

        And as a bonus we can use the new line as an emergency line if we lose a phone or something or even give it to a family member who could use a phone, maybe the family/friend would even pay you the $10 for access since it just pulls from our 700 mins share and unlimited text.

        • Tim242


    • ddh819

      were there vzw family plans with unlimited data? i thought they only started the family plans when they were stopping new unliminted data plans?

      • Zach B.

        I think he’s referring to the ancient times of the OLD family plans. I think the setup was you were on a family plan related to talk/text, then each line added a $30 unlimited data plan.

        • Ethan Hartman

          Yes, I was referring to those plans.

  • hfoster52

    So last month I was trying to use my upgrade (unlimited data) to upgrade my wife’s Droid 4 (4GB Data) to an S4. What I was told by VZ If you do this at an 3rdparty or store you will lose your unlimited data. If you do it online it only changes the terms on the line you upgraded too.

    When I got my Note 2 in December I used my parents upgrade and activated the Note 2 on my parents flip phone line (cheaper buying them a phone for $250 then a $700 phone). Then transferred the phone to my line and reactivated the flip phone on my parents line.

    Do not do this at Amazon, Best Buy, Costco, or a 3rd party Authorized VZ Store. You will lose your unlimited data there is a flag in the system (I can’t remember the name) that when you do this it is set and there is no way to get it back.

    • chris420o

      i was about to say this…these options ONLY WORK THROUGH VERIZON…i tried through wirefly and amazon and they both screwed me and changed my data plan and i FLIPEDDDD out and they undid everything….only through verizon so if u see a phone cheaper elsewhere your out of luck and u gotta pay a 30 buck fee on top the phone purchase

    • jbegs

      I had used my wife’s upgrade a while ago to get the Galaxy S3. So her line now had the new upgrade date. I then had my father get the Galaxy Note 2 which I then swapped my GS3 for the GN2. My wife needed a new phone so when the GS4 came out we used my upgrade date on her line. This was done at Best Buy without affecting my unlimited data at all. I made sure to explain to them what I wanted to do and that it should not change my plan at all. It worked without any issues. This was back when the GS4 was just released.

      • hfoster52

        Best Buy told me otherwise so that might be depends on who you talk to. I was all set to do it there when they pulled that wrinkle on me.

        • jbegs

          Maybe they changed their policy or Corporate VZW is breathing down their necks. I was in a Best Buy mobile store. My wife was ok with losing the unlimited. I kept telling them to make sure it stays on my line. This was done on 5/25 of this year.

        • Tim

          I did it successfully with Best Buy 8/22/13. They said Verizon blocked it through the Best Buy system, but if they go directly through the Verizon site (or something like that, according to the rep I did it with), it works.

  • Apostrafee

    I work at a Verizon store and there was a three hour window at our location that did not remove customers unlimited data…it was pretty awesome

    • Sara Frey

      When did this happen? And why wasn’t I notified? Although I could see Verizon just taking unlimited away after the fact. I doubt any of those people will keep unlimited for very long.

      • Apostrafee

        Well it was a couple months ago, and they had to honor every one I did. According to my Verizon rep our location code was the only one showing the “error”. However all these methods work just fine. You’d be better doing them at a corporate location as many indirects will charge your credit card back the full value of their commission because they don’t get paid on a couple options so be careful.

  • jnmigr

    Or go to Tmobile and let your money talk. That my move for this year, last year I added a 3 line for the note 2 and right at the store the guy did the switch to my number and droped the data services.

    • Tim242

      DAT network won’t work for most.

  • fauxshizzl

    Does anyone know of a way to transfer an unlimited account into someone else’s name? I am leaving Verizon at the end of this month and someone actually offered to buy my unlimited plan if there was a way to do it.

    • Ian

      Assumption of Liability (AOL). Go into a corporate store and ask about it, they will know what to do.

    • Tim242

      You get the name of the person. Then call Verizon. You will authorize the AOL. Then, the person has to go to a store to complete it.

  • downtownjeff

    So no one has a option 3 person they wanna share?

    • chris420o

      I used to have a girl at the costco in new rochelle ny who used to hook me up i got maybe 4 phones from her she just kept exchanging them for me…i promised her dinner n to bring her lunch n this n that…now she dont answer me anymore…prob because i never came through…fail on my part

    • Tim242

      3 person? Damn boy!

      • downtownjeff

        OK I see it now.

        So no one has a option 3, dude or dudette, they wanna share?

  • marc

    how do you get passed the upgrade fee? i’ve had verizon since they first came out and they really charged my aunt a $30 upgrade fee after thanking her for being a customer for over 12 years… for a basic phone – no text, no data… how can you avoid this fee.

    • Tim242

      You can’t .

  • AndrewScottRox

    This article also reflects a need to spread the word when you can get a great price for an off contract device.

    • Detonation

      Unfortunately it doesn’t happen much. Verizon rarely has sales/deals on full retail devices, and other authorized retailers (Best Buy, Amazon, etc) charge more on full retail than Verizon does.

  • Zach B.

    Am I understanding that method 1 and 2 are basically the same, in that you basically steal the other line’s upgrade? (I can read, I just want to make sure I’m understanding this properly)

  • steve

    heard from my local vz rep that the current customers with unlimited data are bunched in a separate group and vz throttles down the speeds to those who have unlimited…no proof or nothing just word of mouth from a friend who works for VZ corporate

    • nicholas cusmina

      Yeah I will tell you this, I have unlimited data. I used another lines upgrade to get the moto x, my 4g was way faster. I realized VZ canceled my unlimited data, I called the HQ and they reinstated it. but the data is also way slower now too…

    • chris420o

      yeah this wouldnt surprise me…esp when im doing 7-8gigs a month teathering netflix/hbogo(if they ever update it) to my n7

    • Buur

      If they are on 3G perhaps. They aren’t allowed to throttle LTE.

    • Fresh360

      I am currently at 17.30GB (I just discovered how awesome Burn Notice is on Netflix) with 2 days left in my cycle and there has been no throttling at all. Also I believe that T-Mobile was sued and lost a case when they said unlimited data and it was being throttled so now companies must tell you at what amount in their ‘unlimited plans’ that you will be throttled.

    • Tim242

      I have never been throttled. I am at 60 GB this month. Verizon’s throttle policy states they only throttle if your usage is causing congestion on your local tower.

  • Leo Sanchez

    Nooooo everytime you guys expose a secret way around something…it gets changed or taken off

    • kwubba

      Exactly..I just did this twice this month..This will now get blocked.

      • Ian

        Shush, we’re all in the same boat…at odds with the carriers and trying to help each other. VZW knows about these and could block them if they wanted.

      • Leo Sanchez

        I know I have a upgrade I was holding onto now I think I should hurry and use it

    • Tim242

      This isn’t a secret

  • Reading this post makes me wish Google do 2 things:

    1) Make a watch that does nothing (besides being a watch) but acts as a mobile hotspot
    2) Make Google Voice work entirely over data w/o a voice plan

    We can then kiss goodbye to Verizon’s (or any carriers’) crap. Use any phones we want — even a Nexus 4.

    • Guest

      Google has nothing to do with any of that, the carriers have to enable Voice Over LTE. As soon as they do that and Verizon/Sprint can turn off CDMA for voice, that’ll be how it is.

      • >> the carriers have to enable Voice Over LTE.

        That is, if you want official VoLTE from the carrier. But you don’t need VoLTE to make IP phone call. Ever heard about an App called GrooveIP (or something similar to that)? I have it installed on my OG Droid after I switched to a Galaxy Nexus. The OG Droid now becomes my home phone (it uses my home Wifi.) It works even if I bring it out and tether the OG Droid to my Galaxy Nexus.

    • middlehead

      Enabling GV without an active phone number won’t help anyone unless the carriers start selling data only plans. And even if they do, those plans won’t be unlimited and it still helps no one.

      • Assuming such device exist, you can pop your activated grandfathered SIM into the device, then tether your phone to it. You will still have unlimited data (see all the fuss about the Nexus 7 LTE activations today.) As for why enabling GV w/o an active phone number matters — Verizon still uses CDMA for voice calls. You need someway to make and receive calls. GV as a true IP phone service will allow you do exactly that. It will work just like what you can achieve now with something GrooveIP + Google Voice.

  • CaptainDisillusion

    I can confirm that this works. I JUST did this (option 2, second method) to get a new Moto X, and I did everything online without speaking to a single Verizon rep. It was super simple, and I live 350 miles away from my mother, whose line I used. I just emailed her that briefly her phone wouldn’t work.

    When I got the new phone, I activated it online using the device ID. I picked the cheapest tiered data plan ($30/month for 2GB), and this deactivated her old line. I tested by calling myself from the new phone, and it appeared as my mom’s number.

    Then I reactivated her old phone using her old phone’s device ID, which I had her email me beforehand, and online it showed me that she was going to be returning to her old $9.99 plan. Very simple. All of the extra fees and data stuff was being removed, and her old plan was being added back in. It’s a very good interface. After this, the Moto X no longer worked, and I had her call me again to make sure her old phone was working as normal.

    Last, I activated her old phone on my number, again in the Verizon online system. This time was a little less smooth in that it took a while for the phone to stop registering as her phone, and start registering as my phone. But after maybe 15 minutes and a few restarts, it was all mine.

    Seriously, it’s easy as can be, and it sounds WAY easier (and cheaper) than any of those other methods.

    • Thanks for posting this!

      • CaptainDisillusion

        Just so glad it worked 😉

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        • Former_VRep

          Perfect way to do it. Just a bit time consuming. 😛

        • Jeff C

          i was doing this online when the VZW support chat popped up. i asked them if this would wipe out my unlimited data if i transferred my upgrade to a feature phone line and “it” said yes. do i believe them?

          • lacima44

            No … they don’t know. When I ask them questions they always tell me to call customer Service in the morning Lol I’m off contract also trying to buy the HTC ONE ,but I want to keep my unlimited data plan… and I don’t want to sign contract with verizon anymore.

      • p_droid

        So if I transfer my upgrade to another line on my account and then use that upgrade, will that other line have to wait 2 more years (or however long the upgrade-wait time is now) to upgrade?

        • Craig Sweany


        • Joseph

          The other answer is incorrect. I have used this method to upgrade my phone. When I upgraded my sister’s phone using my upgrade, she will still be able to upgrade her phone in 13 months as opposed to the 24 months my line has to wait.

          • p_droid

            Thanks for the info.

      • Jeff C

        do you know if they closed this loophole. I went to a verizon store yesterday and had the guy transfer my upgrade to my dad’s dumbphone line. preorder the note 3 and check if my unlimited was still there. he said it was…..called customer service to double check and they said if my dad activates the note i lose unlimited.

        who is telling me the lie lol?

        • Vl3X

          Did you mention anything about “wanting to keep your unlimited data?”

          Side note, I’ve also read through the forums today Wednesday 9/25 on some people claiming the loophole no longer works. Can anyone confirm this as of 9/25/13?

          • Jeff C

            i told the rep at the store my dad wanted the note. since i got an S3 as a replacement from vzw for a GNex that’s believable. i mentioned i wanted to keep my unlimited to him. I went back to the store the next day and told him i called customer service. he looked at me with disappointment. he said the way he did the transfer and upgrade i’d keep my unlimited but calling customer service would take it away. so i felt like i let him down. it didnt take effect yet so im assuming customer service didnt take it away.

            Guess now you need a combo of option #2 and #3. or at least that’s what happened for me

          • dr.akw

            Has this been verified?

            How do they know the difference between a phone we purchased with the discount vs one I bought full-retail off ebay? Technically, they can know based off the serial number. But do they program their system to detect this?

            In other words…is option 2 still an option?

            Grr. I just need a new phone. Still using the ol’ iPhone 4.

          • CaptainDisillusion

            No, you aren’t giving your unlimited to anyone. The way you have to do it is in separate steps.
            Step 1: Transfer your upgrade to your dad.
            Step 2: Upgrade your dad’s feature phone to a Note 3, and activate it on HIS NUMBER, which puts him on a 2GB data plan.
            Step 3: Reactivate your dad’s feature phone on HIS NUMBER, which automatically deactivates his Note 3.
            Step 4: Activate the Note 3 on YOUR NUMBER.

          • Sam

            Captain D, thanks for this post. Need some clarification on the last step.

            1) Transfer my upgrade (unlimited data) to my wife’s iPhone (already 2GB plan).
            2) Upgrade her iPhone to an LG G2, and activate it on HER NUMBER.
            3) Reactivate the iPhone on HER NUMBER, which will deactivate the LG G2.

            This is where I don’t want to screw it up. Should I…

            4) Activate the LG G2 (w/ new SIM) on MY NUMBER.


            4) Take my existing SIM (Galaxy Nexus) and stick it in the LG G2. I’ve seen some posts that say this is the best practice since the SIM that shipped w/ the LG G2 is tied to the 2GB plan. Kellen also mentioned this in the main article.


          • Eric Kolibas

            This! I want to know this!

          • Sam

            Really great timing. Going through it right now. I’ll follow-up shortly.

          • Eric Kolibas

            Sweet! I just ordered a Moto X through a dumb phone line and hadn’t thought about the SIM cards at all. Hope it works out well!

          • Sam

            Wow, finally worked. But, extremely painful. I ordered a Moto X as well through my wife’s tiered line (iPhone). Different than the LG G2 I had mentioned above (just couldn’t pass up a free Moto X). So the different size SIM came into play as I was coming from the GNEX. Things started off smooth, but then got dicey.

            1) Got the Moto X and activated it on her tiered line. Painless, worked right away.

            2) Waited like an hour to go back online to the Activation/Switch portal. When trying to reactivate the iPhone back onto her line, I was getting an error message and had to call. Probably didn’t have to, but made up some story that my wife had to go out of town. Didn’t want to deal w/ learning a new phone right away and wanted her iPhone reactivated on her line.

            3) Tried to go back into the Activation/Switch portal, and switch my GNEX to the Moto X. I kept getting the Moto X activation screen as if it had never been activated. Freaked me out, so I just stopped at this point.

            4) Next morning, I tried again and was getting same activation screen. So I called and gave them the same wife out of town story. Lame and probably not necessary, but said I just wanted to play around w/ it while my wife was out of town for the week. Let them know I didn’t want any changes to my plan (unlimited data) and she reassured me that wouldn’t happen. Only had the GNEX and Moto X w/ me. So after hanging up, shut down the GNEX, powered up the Moto X and registered w/ the network within a couple minutes.

            So far so good. Account is still the same online, Moto X on my line, iPhone on the wife’s line. You probably won’t have to deal w/ much if any of this, but thought I’d share. Good luck!

          • Eric Kolibas

            Thanks for the update! That sounds about what I would do if I had to call and talk to them haha. What about the SIM cards then? Did you use the one from your GNex and then have to trim it?

          • Sam

            No cutting, just used the nano SIM that shipped w/ the Moto X.

          • Eric Kolibas

            Hmm so you don’t need to switch over the SIM card from the previous phone to keep unlimited?

          • Sam

            Correct. Never had to swap SIM cards.

        • Brian W

          Because you used the upgrade from the unlimited line. You needed to use the upgrade from any other line. Basically
          If you ever use the upgrade from your unlimited line, you will lose your unlimited data.

          • Jeff C

            wrong! me, my note 3, and my unlimited data are holding a vigil for my since passed away upgrade. it saved a life (unlimited) and brought one (note 3) into this world.

    • florious80

      Maybe I’m reading this wrong, but did you mean “last, I activated her NEW phone…” the Moto X, or her “old phone”- feature phone?

      Sorry I got confused.

      • CaptainDisillusion

        Oops, yes. You are correct, I will edit that!

        • florious80

          Oh ok that makes perfect sense. Thank you very much for sharing this!!!

    • Uriah Bullard

      Sounds great! My only question is, will this work with “New” lines? I have an upgrade waiting, but I don’t have a line that’s has a feature phone on it. If I open a new line with a feature phone, can I still transfer the upgrade, then take the line back to it’s feature phone once I receive the new phone?

      • CaptainDisillusion

        I can’t imagine why that wouldn’t work, but you’d have to pay $9.99 per month for the full 2 year duration, since the feature phone line gets locked into a 2 year contract.

      • Tim242

        That will not work. Here is what you do for it to work. 1. Add new line, with the smartphone of your choice. 2. Swap your SIM’s. 3. Find a feature phone to put on the extra line

        • Uriah Bullard

          Okay, but what about the data that comes with a new smartphone contract? What happens to it, once I put the line on a feature phone? Would I still pay that $30 a month fee?

        • MasterEthan

          So $9.99/month for 2-years. That’s a total of $239.76, plus $199.99 for a grand total of 439.75. Saves about $160.24, which is pretty good I guess. Then buying a feature phone if you don’t already have one will run another $20-$60? So an average savings of $160-$100 right? Basically the $9.99/month is a payment plan with a small discount. My only question is do we pay the $30/mo added (when adding the line, assume it gets removed when going back to feature phone) get charged upfront and is there any activation fees or other BS fees added when adding a line?

      • schlanz

        Technically this will work. But you will end up paying both an activation fee AND an upgrade fee. As Tim said, it’s better to add the line with the new phone you want. Then switch the new line to a feature phone and the new smartphone to your line.

      • annoymous

        You would open the new line then activate the phone. Next you would move the equipment on to the line you want. Most stores will not perform this action for you. So, you would have to perform this on your own online. But yes you could then put your old phone on the new line but you will still be paying at least $30 a month for that line for two years. This will equal $720 at the end of two years . which will actually end up being higher depending on the discounted cost you paid originally. Example: $200 iPhone plus $720 2 year contract= $920. All in all your better off purchasing the phone outright. Keep in mind they can take the unlimited feature away at anytime without your consent.

        • annoymous

          Also, swapping the Sim isn’t always so easy. Most new phones will have a nano Sim while your old phone will have a micro. So, you will have you have to order a new one.

    • YankInDaSouth

      So, I guess you have to activate the phone on the line upgraded, huh? I used my basic line upgrade to pre-order the note 3 and I just intended to throw my sim card in it when it arrives.

    • T4rd

      I don’t think you had to activate the new phone on her line in the first place.

      I just did the same thing (transferred my lines upgrade to my mom’s line that has a 2GB plan) and when I got the phone, I simply swapped SIM cards from my old phone to the new one and was good to go. Never had to mess with her line at all other than transferring the upgrade to it.

    • Brady Wassam

      You emailed your mom?

    • Michael Valadez

      1. Did your mom have an upgrade, or did you transfer it to her line? 2. did you have a phone with a micro sim? I’m fuzzy on the activation process of the new sim on the unlimited line. I’m trying to go from a GNex to a Moto X

      • lilly

        You can’t transfer the upgrade without losing the feature. So, you would have to upgrade the line first then move the phone to the line with unlimited.

    • DanSan

      did you transfer your upgrade to her line THEN upgrade her line and take the phone or did she already have an upgrade and THEN you upgraded and took the phone?

    • verizonchris

      The alternate upgrade option to keep unlimited is what I use the most for customers. The reason it works is because the system take unlimited away from the line that the phone ends up on as a part of the upgrade. If there is no unlimited on the line then no unlimited is lost. As long as you have at least one line on the account without unlimited, you can run upgrades without losing unlimited. If there isn’t a line on the account without unlimited that is when you would need to add a line.

      You can do all of this yourself through the Verizon site, or you could just let me take care of it for you. I have already helped several DL readers upgrade and keep unlimited data. I’ll take care of the phone switching for you.

    • Jorian Wulf

      Me and my brother also both did this, back when the S4 was released and IT WORKED!
      I told my mom and grandma that their phones wouldn’t work for a little bit. Now we both have Galaxy S4’s on Unlimited Data.

    • Mayur

      Will the feature phone line get the 2 year extension or the unlimited line get 2 year extension.

    • Craig Sweany

      We did this a couple years ago but we didn’t activate it on the original line and then deactivate it. We just simply activated it on the line we wanted the phone for. No problems.

    • John Friend

      I went in last sunday to upgrade. Have 2 lines with grandfathered unlimited data, and 3 feature phones. They would not let me transfer an upgrade from a smartphone to the feature phone to upgrade. The woman said if I did that, I would lose unlimited data. Not a huge deal, I just used one of the feature phone lines, and the rep swapped everything out right in store. Also too, she told me they do not receive commission on these types of upgrades. RIDICULOUS!!! No wonder we have so hard of a time trying to get anything accomplished in stores…

      • Neil Fujiwara

        Go to Costco or another retailer. The only thing is that if you cancel the feature phone line it is a $350 ETF not a $175 ETF due to you getting a smartphone credit.

    • jliang77

      how do you transfer your contacts, media files, and everything else to your new phone?

      • CaptainDisillusion

        -Contacts should be backed up to your Gmail address. That will all come through.
        -Media files you must pull off of your old phone, put them on your computer/dropbox/etc. and put them back onto your new phone.
        -Apps will either be restored automatically through your Gmail address, or you can reinstall them manually through Google Play.
        -Text messages I recovered with “SMS Backup and Restore”. I just had to go into a file manager app and locate the saved backup file, put it on my new phone, and restored it on my new phone.

    • NickS

      when you do this though, don’t you lose your warranty on the new phone?

    • MatthewSimmons

      I’d like to add an update to this (10/31/2013) this still works but Verizon now makes you add a data plan to the dumbphone. I picked the smallest plan 75mb/10month plan. You can remove this by either going into a corporate store, calling CS, or doing a live chat and they will remove the data plan.

    • garrisonwa

      Hi Verizonchris —

      I am looking to upgrade 2 phones with unlimited data and add a new 3rd line. I would love it if you could help me do this. Thanks so much. Username is garrisonwa.

  • chris420o

    verizon…you will have to pry my unlimited data plan from my cold dead fingers…that is all

  • Armus

    If the Note3 ships with the f’ed up boot loader like the S4, I’m buying a dev edition straight from Samsung. Verizon seems intent on screwing the Dev community over not only with data but also with modding. Only safe bet is the Dev phone.

    • Tim242

      LOKI works great on the S4

  • beng8686

    I recently switched from my aging gnex to the Droid Maxx and haven’t looked back. Paid full retail to keep my unlimited data and I have a phone that does everything my gnex did but better (except Google wallet). This phone is a beast!

    • Andy Taylor

      Google Wallet now available! See other DL article

      • beng8686

        Seen it dude. Tap to pay doesn’t work on the Maxx yet.

  • sk102704

    Well you could always just buy the Nexus 5 when it comes out and…..oh nevermind

  • MichaelFranz

    Im stuck where i have upgrades but on tablet lines, VZW will not let me use them for anythign else but tablets. I need to find a store who will let you. Its not fair i have upgrades I am unable to use because of this.

    I have no problem with the rules after the fact, I just do not agree with them doing all these changes before contracts ended and then saying they have the right to do what they want. I personally think that is crappy customer service

  • Armus

    The device payment plan – mentioned several times and left out of the article- had one big catch. It is for in store phones only. They can’t order it online or in the store – it must be present for the sale. So no 32gb S4, or pre-order Note3s. Sticks but if you are willing to style you can keep the data.

    Also: I find that store managers are incredibly powerful. They can do things no one else can such as restoring data plans and in my case trading an S3 for a Note2 on warranty.

    • Thanks for the info. Currently deciding if I should payment plan a Droid Maxx or a Note 3. Hmmm…

      • Futbolrunner

        Same here. I’m waiting on the DL review to see if the Note 3 is all it’s cracked up to be. If not, hello Moto X with 2 day battery life, bigger screen and wireless charging.

  • ColoradoXJ13

    I am planning on doing option 1, if and when the Moto X Developer edition comes out and is available on verizon, or if Verizon ever releases a 32GB Moto X. Currently using a barely functioning Droid Incredible, which does not have a SIM card. How do I go about getting a Verizon SIM for it, if I buy the phone one of those ways.

    • ozo012

      Once you have the new phone, you go into an official VZW and ask for a LTE SIM, I’ve done it for 2 phones now (One was an older large SIM) and the new one in my Note 2 is the Micro-SIM.

    • sk3litor

      The sim comes in the box. Since you pay full retail you should be able to just go and have them activate it on your current line. (No changes) I think.

    • sunnycali

      I also have old 3g smartphone that doesn’t have a sim card. Can someone confirm that if I do option 2 (order phone online) and activate the sim card that comes with it, it will not affect my unlimited plan? Do I have to go to a store to activate it or can I activate it online?

  • mh0520

    I’m still running a droid incredible and I don’t think that has a SIM card, at least not an easily accessible one that I’m aware of. Is there any way for me to do method two where you upgrade the feature phone online or would I have to go in store? I’d like to upgrade to maybe a Moto X. So, I’m just curious.

    • Zach B.

      I’m going to cautiously tell you no. Back in the transition to LTE, there were separate data plans for 3G and LTE customers. And since 2011 or 2012, Verizon sells only LTE smartphones. So anyone still on 3G phones still have 3G data plans. In order to upgrade, you’ll be forced to upgrade to an LTE data plan, which constitutes a change in your plan, which effectively takes your unlimited data.

      I may be slightly off, but this was explained to me by a corporate store rep and I hastily hopped on the LTE bandwagon early to lock in my data plan before they started cutting it off in the beginning.

      • mh0520

        Sounds reasonable except that you can purchase one full price and continue to use the unlimited data. So, maybe there is a way?

        • Zach B.

          I could be wrong… but I don’t think it looks good for you.

          In their computer system, 3G and LTE data plans were separated due to method of activation among other things.

          WHen you switch to an LTE phone, the system requires that you “change” your data plan. So even if you get a full retail device, it will still require a “change” in your plan, which then forces you out of unlimited.

          I would go to a corporate store and explain your goal in detail. AND MAKE SURE YOUR REP SEEMS COMPETENT AND DOESN’T MUCK WITH YOUR PLAN ON ACCIDENT (I had words with a store manager one day while upgrading during the mad rush to lock in unlimited data last year).

    • M3D1T8R

      Yeah, just go in and ask them for a sim card for your line. Might take a little while to get sorted out but should work eventually. When I switched from my Incredible (3G, no sim card) to the S3 when it launched, the service with the new 4G sim was glitchy for the first few hours.

  • II have a question for option 2. Will Verizon find out and charge you ETF on the phone? After all, you are supposed to use that subsidized phone for the data package!

    • M3D1T8R

      No because you are still on contract with the 9.99 line, you just removed an extra feature from that line (the data) so it doesn’t count as breaking contract.

  • Greg Abbate

    Long time Unlimited data user here. I recently gave it up though. Pre-ordered the Note 3 with Verizon edge and they gave me 6 gig a month for same price as 2 gig a month. I never went over 6 gig a month usage. Average was 4-5.

    • gokusimpson

      You’re now on Verizon Max plan. It’s a special part of Verizon Edge to get unlimited people off of unlimited.

      • Greg Abbate

        I was very surprised at the numbers. I really thought I used 10+ GB a month. Over a 12 month span, never over 6. And i never used WIFI. Was a no brainier for me. And here I thought I was a power user.

        • Power user? I know someone who used 32GB last month. Not only that he’s not alone, but there are people using more than he does.

          • Tim242

            4 days left in cycle.

    • M3D1T8R

      But that’s a terrible deal. You’re still paying $330 plus tax (likely near $400 total) for the upgrade contract price, and lose the most valuable part, unlimited, even if you don’t currently use over 6gb. With more high def video and cloud storage you could use 6gb in one day.. In the future. Using Netflix or whatever. Now you’ll never have these options, just so you could save $400 on the phone today.

  • mec

    option 4 requires you to pay 1st months plan, plus $30 activation fee. you lose out unless the phone is under $100 subsidized.

  • Armus

    I’ve used option two and Verizon folks will even tell you about it and walk you through it. Very easy. Damn Verizon and their evil ways.

  • Lesser Version

    I went with Option 2. Bought the phone online with a 2gb plan on the feature phone, saved $60 and used the pick up instore option. Went in, told them what I wanted to do and the new phone was activated on the unlimited line. Data plan cancelled on the feature phone line and feature phone reactivated. They are well aware of the backdoor, but will do it here where I live.(That doesn’t sound right)

  • Kyle Miller

    No Swappa or Craigslist love?

    • Famouz Starz

      thats what im saying! lets include all methods here!

  • Thomas

    I tried option 1 when I pre-ordered my Note 3. It kept telling me my data plan was no longer available so I had to call & get a CSR to do it.

  • Doug

    Verizon offers a plan for unlimited customers who have an upgrade $30 6gb of data, they should offer it if you decline share everything.

    • Armus

      That is a limited time offer and who actually uses just 6gb? I average 30 and that’s light compared to some.

      • ToddAwesome

        Much like the percentage of the total user population that comments here (small) the number of people who use over 6gb is ever smaller (see: tiny).

      • Col_Angus

        I average 2.5gb a month, 6gb seems pretty legit for my needs. Gives me a good buffer for when LTE coverage expands more here, and content gets more data heavy over the next 2 years of my contract.

        • socarwolverine

          If you’re considering that plan then you should do the device payment plan. About the same cost, but you get to keep your unlimited data and do’t have to sign a new contract.

        • Armus

          Shame on you for wasting an unlimited plan. It is your civic duty to screw Verizon an much as they do us. Not get streaming!

    • socarwolverine

      That’s the EDGE plan, and you’re still paying full price for the phone. Why wouldn’t you just do the device payment plan, and keep you’re unlimited data? You’d pay about the same amount, keep your data, and you won’t have to sign a new contract.

  • Matthew Rebmann

    DEVICE PAYMENT PLAN. The Verizon Edge’s better and older brother. Take the full price of a phone, add 24 dollars and divide by 12 for a monthly payment for one year. Contracts will not be touched 🙂

    • Famouz Starz

      But you lose Unlimited Data once your opt for the EDGE plan or MAX Plan (8gb for $30)

      all in all the ways noted above are the only options for keeping unlimited day if you choose to purchase from VZW.

      Of course you can opt to buy on swappa, ebay, craigslist.

      • Wilsonian

        The device payment plan isn’t EDGE. It’s actually what I’m using right now. For a GS4 it added about $55 to my plan per month for a year. It didn’t touch my data. I was the first person to actually use this at my local store. They don’t advertise it very much and I pretty much had to explain it to the employees on how to actually do it. And as for it being a loan, sure it is, but at $24 worth of interest, it’s a great loan.

        • Matthew Rebmann

          Exactly, Wilsonian 🙂 an extra 24 bucks is a steal to keep unlimited.

        • Famouz Starz

          True i read over the OP i assumed Rebmann was talking about the MAX plan.

    • j__h

      So you are taking out a loan. Same for me as just paying the full price, No Thanks!

      • Matthew Rebmann

        A loan that only costs an additional $24 and you can pay it off before the 12 months if you so wish. It’s not for everyone but I want a new phone and I want to keep my Unlimited Data. This eases the pain of doing so.

  • JamesU513

    I ordered 2 Moto Xs on Verizon.com, paid with a credit card, dropped unlimited data on both lines and signed up for their new share everything plan. its been 2 weeks since I did that and there are no plan changes on my account. Spoke with a rep and they are not showing any changes except for the new phone. Looks like I fell through a crack. For now…

    • sylent101

      Same thing happened to me when I ordered my s4 online back in May. I didn’t ask any questions and everything is still unlimited lol, I tether my lte all day man.

      • JamesU513

        So sweet. Verizon is f ing stupid for not taking care of this issue. obviously it’s been going on for a while. I’m going to take advantage of the unlimited data more than ever

  • Brian Utne

    Selling my unlimited Verizon plan for someone that wants to take it over for 1000.00 USD + a Nexus 5. 🙂

  • King Ding Ling

    This would of been helpful last week when I bought my G2 🙁

    I bought my G2 for $139.99 (sold my Nexus at the same price so phone was technically free), then changed our plan to 10GB of shared data between 4 people. This ended up actually being $1 cheaper than what we had been paying for 6GB of shared data between 3 people in the last year.

    In reality unless you use hotspot a lot or are not around Wi-Fi often, it’s not worth the time and money to keep your unlimited deal.

    • mustbepbs

      That’s how it was for me. I’m literally on WiFi 95% of my day. Unlimited is useless for me.

      • Famouz Starz

        are you fronting the WIFI Bill? for myself i only have wifi at work no ISP at home which i use my various devices to provide hotspot services to.

        all in all its cheaper for me to have unlimited and not to have a dedicated isp for home service, also for travel i have a consistent connection for business work not having to deal with airports, hotels etc..

        • mustbepbs

          I’m paying for my home internet if that’s what you’re asking?

    • ScottM

      I use smart actions to switch me from 4G to WiFi when I’m at home. I rarely get anywhere CLOSE to 2GB data a month on my phone.

      Now I’m trying to figure out WHICH new phone I want to get. Choices, choices, choices. MotoX, LG G2, GS4???

      • mustbepbs

        G2 looks pretty choice except for the god awful logo on the top. GS4 would be a solid choice. I’m anxious to try the Moto X in a store.

  • ßen Murphy

    Also, the Device Payment Plan you forgot to mention is just as effective so you’re not spending $650 in one go, but instead over 12 months.

    • litobirdy

      Can’t have unlimited data with that

  • litobirdy

    so in order to do that multiple line method, you need a line that DOESN’T have unlimited correct?

    • Famouz Starz

      NO you do not need a line that has unlimited data however if you choose to upgrade a line that has unlimited data you will have to move over to a shared data / single data line plan

  • Welp, looks like me and the GNex will be together til death do us part. Thanks for the info, DL.

    • Blue Sun

      My take on it is:
      Looks like me & my GNex will be together til death do us part. Then see ya Verizon!

  • Rosalvo

    Has anyone been successfule with option 2? I have been told that even if you use the buddy upgrade, the line that has the unlimited data is affected and that it would lose the unlimited data.

    • burkett375

      That’s what I was told when we tried to upgrade my wife’s line…both in store and verizon.com chat. we ended up just paying full price for the droid maxx. It was $300 on contract, but only $650 outright, so we figured we’d save the difference after 11 months by not switching our plan

    • Jeralmac

      I just did it last week to replace my Gnex with a Moto X. I still have unlimited and my wife is on the 2gb plan. I had an upgrade available so I transfered it to her, upgraded her Note 2 and then when the Moto X arrived, I called their support line and had them transfer the numbers back. Worked like a charm and I still have unlimited. The weird thing was that they extended my contract 2 years, leaving my wife’s alone. But in the end, I still have unlimited which is good because I used 31gb just last month.

    • gokusimpson

      I got that too. I couldn’t transfer my unlimited phone upgrade to a feature phone to get a new one. Neither the corporate store, authorized retailer, or best buy would do it. I don’t use huge amounts of data so I dropped unlimited and got my Moto X from Best Buy for 79.99. ($50 reserve card, $50 old phone trade in (feature phone), $20 for signing up for credit card)

  • johnediii

    I switched to T-mobile as well with a Nexus 4. For my 4 line family plan it’s saving me over $100/month.

  • Ben Landwehr

    I’ll be doing the second method to upgrade to the Galaxy Note 3. I’m debating on if I should wait till October 15th (or 14th?) though, you know.. just in case.

  • Sonic

    Great article. Thanks!

  • Futbolrunner

    I buy and sell from Craigslist. Comes out to be cheaper than full retail but you just have to be careful you’re not getting jipped.

    • mustbepbs


      You’re racist and you didn’t even know it.

      • Futbolrunner

        Thanks. It’s one of those words I’ve always said but never typed. Will urban dictionary it.

        • mustbepbs

          It’s okay, I was just playing around.

    • Instead of Craigslist try Swappa.com

  • Fred

    Still going to try the Amazon route…

  • itsgonnalast

    After 9 years on Verizon I finally made the switch to T-Mobile (month-to-month plan).

    • andrew borrelli

      I’m thinking of doing the exact same. How did you like this and what plan did you go with?

      • itsgonnalast

        JR Raphael’s blog was my inspiration: http://goo.gl/HKncjW

        My timing was lucky; I switched from a VZ Galaxy Nexus to a (recently discounted) $250 16GB Nexus4.

        Just like JR, I bought a SIM-only plan for a $30 one-time fee, and a $30/month-to-month plan. It includes 100 minutes (since I rarely talk on the phone) and unlimited HSPA+ data that gets throttled to 3G speed after 5GB (Recently a VZ support rep told me I was using 7GB/month of unlimited data).

        If I bought the Droid Maxx (the VZ phone I considered) I would have paid $300 on-contract for the phone and $110/month for a new “Share Everything” plan.

        T-mobile data coverage was my biggest worry and so far it’s been a pleasant surprise. I live in a VZ LTE area, but for some reason I often (daily) ended up on VZ 3G, which is molasses-slow. It sounds ridiculous but so far the T-mobile data coverage seems better than VZ, even without LTE.

        Even better, since I’m using HSPA instead of LTE I’m getting great battery life.

        • Ben Landwehr

          Wait, are you saying T-Mobile throttles you to 3G after 5gigs? Isn’t that a bad thing if you normally use around 7gigs on Verizon? So on a monthly basis, you will eventually likely start being forced to use 3G on an “unlimited” plan.

          • itsgonnalast

            My other options were not very good:

            * Pay $110/month (plan) + $300 (Droid Maxx) for a 2GB LTE data cap from VZ.

            * Pay $650 for the Droid Maxx to keep unlimited data

            * Do nothing and continue using the horrible VZ GNexus.

        • Aaron Clow

          The only thing that gives me any trouble is the poor building penetration on TMobile’s higher frequencies. I am going to try Aio for a month and see how the signal is at my desk. As for the 5GB limit, I used to be wild and free with my data after 10 years with Verizon. Now I just use WiFi more. Saving $90 a month, I can be a little more careful. 🙂

      • itsgonnalast

        I was feeling really bold last week so I paid Google $20 to port my 9-year-old VZ phone number to Google Voice.

        This automatically canceled my VZ account without having to talk to Verizon at all.

      • itsgonnalast

        T-mobile HSPA+ speed test

    • adamcorwin

      I just switched from a Gnex to Nexus 4 on the T-Mobile $30 prepaid plan. It has been great for me. Haven’t missed LTE yet, and saving few hundred a year that will more than pay for next phone.

      • lensgrabber

        It’s not bad if you don’t travel and are in a area with good reception. I recently traveled (car) and had a N4 on ATT and a SGS3 plus Galaxy Nexus on T-mobile $30 plans. The coverage on the ATT phone was exceptional throughout the trip. The T-mobile coverage on these phones, well, sucked. Waze thought I was off road most of the trip. My wife, who is a T-mobile $30 worshiper, was pretty disgusted with the differences. Our T-mobile lines also didn’t get any cell broadcast warning of floods in the area. The N4 alerted us three times via the broadcast warning network. It may have been that T-mobile doesn’t have that capability but it was a nice warning to know what was ahead.

        I’m letting my $30 sim expire now.

        • Guest

          Are you sure the cellular broadcast thing isn’t dependent on the phone? My wife’s Droid Bionic gets the alerts on Verizon, but my HTC Rezound running Cyanogenmod doesn’t receive them. I don’t remember if it received them when running the HTC stock ROM either though. In any case, I have a weather radio so it’s not a big deal. 🙂

          • Guest

            It may be. She is running CM 10.1.2 and has all the cell broadcast options checked. I’m running PA 3.9 on the N4 and CM 10.2 nightly on the SGS3 and both of my phones got the warnings. As soon as the next Nexus comes out she will be getting the N4 as a hand-me-down. Either the next Nexus or Note 3… hard to decide.

          • lensgrabber

            It may be but I’ve gotten broadcasts (amber alert) before on the SGS3 running CM but with the AT&T sim in it. Then I got the alerts using the N4, again with the AT&T sim. I haven’t gotten any on Tmob yet. I’ll pass down the N4 to her when I upgrade to either the Note 3 or N5 so we’ll see.

        • itsgonnalast

          I was affected by the VZ Galaxy Nexus signal-strength defect: http://goo.gl/wpycmX

          I’m not sure if this affected all Galaxy Nexus phones (regardless of carrier), or just those on Verizon.

          I just switched from the VZGNex to Nexus4 and the GPS/data signal is much, much stronger now.

        • adamcorwin

          Yeah it works for me since I’m in the city 99% of the time. Data tends to drop out if I am more than an hour and a half away from home. Probably not the best option for someone traveling a lot, but great deal if you don’t.

      • icantremember

        You can get LTE on the N4 (as long as it’s in your area):


        • adamcorwin

          Yeah, I tried it out but didn’t seem like a huge difference in my area. I seem to have better signal on HSPA and it has been quick enough. No problem watching netflix or doing google hangouts on it.

    • Ian Smith

      feels like this is an AA meeting.

      we’re all proud of you buddy, we’re all proud.

      my name is Ian and I’ve been using for the past 2 years. i plan on quitting this November by going month-to-month with another carrier…

      • itsgonnalast

        Thanks! It feels great to finally have a Nexus with no bloatware, the latest Android update and Google Wallet.

      • nickyb

        I guess its time for me to face reality as well. I am going to stop using when I switch over to T-mobile next month when the Note 3 is released.

        I feel much better.

        Gonna try and sell my 4 unlimited lines on verizon first though. 😉

        • Ian Smith

          we know acceptance is the hardest step. we’re here to support you.

    • MReprogle

      I wanted to do the same, but I have to bring this HTC One back to them. From work, I used to stream all my Google Music and FLAC music from Plex on Verizon with no problem. On T-Mobile, it might show a 4G connection, start playing, then drop down to 2G and stay that way for a few minutes. This kept repeating itself, and I am tired of it. I’d rather pay for a phone outright with Verizon, keep my unlimited data, and end the T-Mobile headache..

    • Aaron Clow

      I did the same. Unlimited data is overrated, and so is Verizon. I was freaking out with every little change on my account. Then I said what am I stressing myself out about, and switched to TMo. Saved $90 a month on my family plan, data speeds are faster in my area than LTE Verizon… Bought a Nexus 4 and went contract-free. Good riddance, Verizon!

      • itsgonnalast

        Good job sir!

    • ben7337

      Wish I could make the switch, but 2g and 3g are a no go on Tmobile for me. Time to use the unlimited upgrade loophole and get something nice.

  • Chris Batson

    I went with option 3 when I got the GS4 back in the summer.

    • faganm24

      So a manager was able to give you back your unlimited data after upgrading with a new contract? How exactly did they do it? Everyone I talk to says that “It’s not something that we can do in the system”. Blaming it on the system.

      • Chris Batson

        Didn’t give it back bc it was never taken away. Just extended my current contract for 2 more years. Used my upgrade and got the GS4

        • faganm24

          So you upgraded your unlimited data line without doing anything to other lines and kept unlimited data? It sounded like Option 3 in the article was something that took overriding of the system to accomplish.

          • Chris Batson

            I know the owner. He said since I was a longtime customer that he could do that. I guess it’s some kind of override.

  • dwill

    When your contract goes month-to-month, it’s still up to Verizon whether they want to continue to offer unlimited data. They haven’t started taking that away from customers yet, but they could at any moment as long as there’s no contract.

    • If I’m reading it correctly tho if you do Option 2 then the contract is extended on the line that the upgrade originated from, not the one it was transferred to. I’m not sure about all the legal garb but in theory shouldn’t this lock you into unlimited for another contract cycle?

      • Ben Landwehr

        I wouldn’t think so, because it’d be the other phone that has the renewed contract. The line you’re keeping unlimited on stays the same because it was not renewed.

        • Clintro

          Actually they do extend the Unlimited line. I don’t recall if it is for the 2 years or not, but they do increase the contract on the unlimited one.

          • Ben Landwehr

            Really? But you’re simply just switching phones, aren’t you? So that would mean buying a phone off eBay or CL would also extend unlimited if that was the case.

          • Clintro

            No only if you purchase from Verizon, using an upgrade.

            When you use the upgrade the time has to go somewhere…right?

          • Ben Landwehr

            That’s what I’m saying. Like the article says, you’re renewing the other lines two year contract. After that, you’re only taking the phone, not the contract. So I don’t see how that change/extends anything on the line you’re keeping unlimited on.

          • Blue Sun

            The limited data line gets the 2 year contract extension, not the unlimited line. I can confirm this as I did it in early 2012.

          • Clintro

            Incorrect. I did it on 5/2013 and the line that originally had the upgrade is extended for the 2 years.

          • Clintro

            See screen shot of my account. I have done this a few times…LOL

          • Clintro

            But the other line has time on it…. you don’t get out of any contract time early.
            Unless you do this:

            Line A (unlimited) No upgrade (12 months left on contract)
            Line B (Unlimited) Upgrade Available
            Line C (Feature only no data) Upgrade Available

            You would in this case just use the upgrade on Line C and wouldn’t change Line B

            But this is more likely the case:

            Line A (unlimited) No upgrade (12 months left on contract)
            Line B (Unlimited) Upgrade Available
            Line C (Feature only no data) No upgrade (18 months left on contract)

            In this case you would switch the Upgrade to Line C but the contracts would stay on those lines so Line B would renew for 24 months and Line C would stay at 18 months. Moving the upgrade doesn’t effect the contract time on the line.

            After upgrade it would look like this:

            Line A (unlimited) No upgrade (12 months left on contract)
            Line B (Unlimited) No upgrade (24 months left on contract)
            Line C (Feature only no data) No upgrade (18 months left on contract)

          • Blue Sun

            Lets try this one more time using your verbage:

            Line A (Unlimited) No upgrade (12 months left on contract)
            Line B (Limited) Upgrade available (0 months left on contract)

            I upgraded Line B’s device, contract now extended 24 months. Moved Line B device to Line A, Line A device was replaced with Line B device (or older device). Line A contract was not extended, data still unlimited.

          • Clintro

            Correct… in this case you are not moving an upgrade. When you move the new phone to line A (after first activating it on Line B just to make sure nothing on Line A changes) you will have to put the feature phone back on Line B and that will remove the data plan. (You can do it online or with a CSR on the phone).

            My other post were assuming you were moving an upgrade which you would not be doing.

          • Clintro

            But what you can do is in 12 months you can upgrade again by moving the upgrade to Line B and then doing this all again. Assuming they don’t close this loophole by then, but they haven’t yet.

          • Ben Landwehr

            Haha, let me try one more. What I mean, and in my case;

            My contract has been up for like a year because I bought my Galaxy Note 2 off eBay to keep my unlimited data. So when I use another lines upgrade, their line gets upgraded and my stays the same only with a new phone, similar to buying a phone off eBay, therefore meaning nothing gets extended.

            In another case;

            If you’re contract with unlimited data is not up and you use another lines upgrade, again, that line gets extended to 2 years. Now the line with unlimited, everything still stays the same. Contract isn’t up yet so you’re safe and Verizon can’t take it from you yet (if they ever choose to take away peoples month-to-month unlimited) and you got a new phone. But nothing on the contract-unlimited plan is “extended”.

          • Clintro

            I think some of these comments get out of order….. The easiest way to explain it is :

            Posted By: Paul Hansen Ben Landwehr

            The line that the upgrade originally belonged to would get the 2 year extension.

          • Ben Landwehr

            Does it? I’ve done this before, to my knowledge you simply lost your upgrade cause you gave it up? Not actually upgraded. I guess either way that’s pretty much the same lol.

            Haha, but I was actually talking about method two. Meaning you’re not transferring anything. You upgrade that line, then give that phone to another line. So the upgraded line is what gets the two year extension, the one you gave the phone to, simply just got the phone.

          • schlanz

            The line eligible for renewal is the line that gets the contract, no matter the scenario. If the eligible line is the smartphone, you transfer the upgrade to the basic phone. If the eligible line is the basic phone, you simply upgrade the basic phone. Where the equipment ends up after the upgrade is completed is of no consequence.

          • T4rd

            This is 100% correct. I did exactly this (the second scenario) just last week for me wife’s 32GB GS4. My line (on unlimited data) was due for upgrade. Her line (with unlimited data) and my mom’s line (2GB plan) was not due for upgrade. I logged into Verizon’s site, transferred my upgrade to my mom’s line, bought the phone and it extended the contract on MY line (with unlimited data).

            BE AWARE though; the Verizon reps, both in store and online, for the most part are totally clueless as to how this works though. Literally at least half of the reps told me that I will lose unlimited data if I transferred my upgrade. But I found one rep that did me right and walked me through the upgrade process in order to ensure that I wouldn’t lose unlimited data. So if you get reps telling you that this won’t work, DO NO believe them.

          • Justin Barrett

            How did you transfer your upgrade to another line. I’d love to do that!

        • Paul Hansen

          The line that the upgrade originally belonged to would get the 2 year extension.

          • Clintro

            Yes This!!!

      • MattC

        The data is affected on the line the system thinks is actually getting the new device. So if you tell it your using the upgrade from your unlimited line to give to the other line is extends the contract on the unlimited line but does not change any features on that line including the data….only on the line it believes gets the new device. Then its just a matter of switching the device back to your line.

      • CaptainDisillusion

        Correct. When I did this, my mother’s feature phone was renewed on a 2 year contract, and my phone is still unlimited and month-to-month.

    • Kyle Miller

      But don’t they still have to notify you of a change in your plan/data? They can’t just remove it without notice right?

      • CaptainDisillusion

        One day I’m sure they’ll force us to pick between a number of options, whereby at a certain date if we don’t choose, they’ll pick one by default. At this point, I might just bail for another carrier.

        • Jon McCardell-Sameulsson

          I’m guessing when VoLTE comes around we’ll be forced to choose.

    • Luigi90210

      Actually their contracts state they can change your plan at any given point but if you dont agree with the change you have the right to cancel with no ETF since Verizon broke contract.

      • loyalty888

        But if you’re month to month, then you’re no longer on a contract and you wouldn’t have an ETF anyway. That’s what makes this worse, they can take away unlimited at any time because the incentive (potentially forfeiting the ETF you would pay) is no longer there.

      • schlanz

        Historically speaking though, I don’t think VZW has forced anyone to change plans other than moving to account level migrations which was more a structural change (cost/benefit was the same)

        There is no reason for vzw to change this as it does not cost them anything and it would guarantee lost customers. And like you said, many of them would have an etf waived because flip flopping upgrades to keep unlimited keeps the line in contract.

        • Luigi90210

          i feel verizon is at a point now where a lot of the old unlimited data users either moved to another service(i personally moved to tmobile and i couldnt be happier) or moved to tiered data because they upgraded

          if the percentage is low, verizon might just cut losses and drop unlimited data all together at the risk that all of those unlimited data users will drop verizon and move somewhere else

          i really wouldnt put it past verizon to do something like that seeing as AT&T practically made unlimited data users switch to tiered data by killing their data speeds

          • schlanz

            Doubtful. CDMA is a more costly data transmission for VZW than LTE so throttling wouldn’t be in their best interest. Killing it altogether wouldn’t help them either as it would be a surefire way of reducing their revenue stream. They are still profiting healthily from customers with unlimited data, they wouldn’t want to lose them out of spite that they aren’t making as much as they wished.

    • umbrellacorp

      And they will continue to honor the month to month service. I’ve been eligible for an upgrade since March 2013 and I have not renewed my contract but still maintain unlimited data. So far, I don’t think they are axing any service that are month to month that still have unlimited data.

      • brent greaud

        Why would Verizon want to axe off their unlimited customers that are out of contract. Verizon is still collecting subsidized money from us every month. Money that would normally need to be guaranteed through the contract. Now that the phone is paid off, we are just giving them a spare 30 bucks(which is normally included in your contracted plan to help pay for the phone). So now your 30 for data plus 30 for the subsidized phone that is already paid off. 60 dollars for data for Verizon. Basically if I use less than 14 gigs at their current price structure, they win.

        • umbrellacorp

          I agree. I see no reason why my current unlimited data would be ended unless I chose to do so.

  • MacNificent

    wish I had this article last night when I was ordering my Lg G2.

    • Eric R.

      Return it and reorder

      • MacNificent

        I still have my unlimited data. it would’ve been a heck of a lot easier if i had this article. i was searching through all the comments from new device articles. Because I knew it was explained so many times there..
        Great article DL!!!