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New Nexus 7 Made by Asus Stops by FCC With LTE on Board (Updated)

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Here it comes, the Nexus 7 refresh. After months of speculation that it would arrive anywhere from Google I/O to July, the device finally stopped by the FCC, making it somewhat official. And thanks to the filing from the FCC, we know a lot about the device, including the processor, the fact that it has a rear camera, and that there will be LTE on board. 

We’re looking at an Asus made tablet, labeled as “nexus” for “marketing purposes,” a Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Pro quad-core processor (APQ8064), rear camera (likely 5 MP), LTE, and a 3,950mAh battery. That’s a solid package that should be able to remain reasonably priced thanks to the processor being last year’s high-end chipset. We’re also happy to see a camera, since the original Nexus 7 didn’t carry one. And for those connectivity junkies, the LTE mention should make you quite happy.

Sources of ours have indicated that July 30 would be a good day to pencil in on your calendars as a potential launch date. We should see both WiFi and LTE models at that time.

No pricing information is officially know, though we’d assume that Google will keep it close to the current $199 and $249 price points.

Who wants one?

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Update:  Reader Tyler points out that a similar Asus tablet under the model number K009 stopped off at Bluetooth SIG recently, and even presented itself via blurry-cam photo. The device definitely looks like a Nexus 7. The description even mentions that the tablet features a 7″ LED-backlist capacitive multitouch screen. Where it gets confusing, is the mention of a Snapdragon 600 processor instead of the Snapdragon S4 Pro listed at the FCC. I think I’m going with the FCC filing on this one.

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Via:  FCC | Engadget

  • Majeed Belle

    I’d prefer a decent front facing camera on a tablet. I personally don’t see or have a need for a rear facing camera. Either way I’ll be getting this.

    • TylerChappell

      PhotoSpheres ppl, cmon now. I have a Nexus 7 and my dad’s retired GNex. Gnex sucks for photospheres.

  • Matthew Jackson

    I really hope this is correct. I just sold my iPad for a Nexus 7 and I am hoping that by the end of the summer I can get a new Nexus Device.

  • Guest

    Does being a stepdad count?

  • Daeshaun Griffiths

    i think i want something bigger.

    • BulletTooth_Tony

      That’s what she said.

  • chris420o

    doesnt seem enough to make me wanna “upgrade” from my current n7 which i still love…and ive yet to root it but i gotta sit down one day unlock her n root her n throw some custom rom goodness on her give her new life…do wish she was thinner

  • Kenton Douglas

    … “gets confusing, is the mention of a Snapdragon 600 processor instead of the Snapdragon S4 Pro listed” … no real confusion. The S4 Pro and S600 are virtually identical at the core level. Really Qualcomm have just undertaken a bit of a rebranding exercise with their SoCs (probably to to avoid confusion with the Samsung S4 range) and tweaked the performance a little.

    • Keith0606

      I read somewhere that the peformance difference is up to 40% better at times with the 600. So i’m still hoping the bluetooth site is right vs. the FCC. Since the FCC image is bad maybe the model of the chip is just missing it’s T

      • Kenton Douglas

        Spot on mate it’s about 40% … which is a tweak as far as I’m concerned! :) The S800 at 75% better performance is closer to what I’d call a performance improvement (which should be 100%). Take Apple as an example, most upgrades improve performance by that factor.

    • JMonkeYJ

      I’ve seen this said in several places, but it’s not actually true. The 600 is a new core architecture, with new features and better performance than the S4 (Krait 300 vs Krait 200). Anandtech has a good article:
      http://www.anandtech.com/show/6568/qualcomm-krait-400-krait-300-snapdragon-800
      The architectural difference is not as big as ARMs A15 vs A9 (Qualcomm does not use ARM cores), but it definitely is a newer architecture. I really hope the N7 has a 600, but probably not a deal breaker if it doesn’t. The model numbers of the S4 and the 600 differ by one letter (an added T on the 600) so there’s a slim possibility the FTC report messed it up.

      • Kenton Douglas

        Correct there are improvements to the pipelining, execution order etc, which you get from the Krait 300. But in terms of GPU (A320) and L1/L2 cache its the same.

    • JMonkeYJ

      I posted my while spiel and then realized you said the S4 Pro, not the regular S4. I believe you are correct that the S4 pro and 600 are the same, altho it’s worth noting that the FTC lists the model number for the regular S4 (the one in the Nexus 4) NOT the S4 Pro, so the listed model is the lower performance architecture.

  • BulletTooth_Tony

    The one I’ve been waiting for…

  • Flyinion

    Tasty!! I will finally own a Nexus 7. (was actually going to own one a couple months ago, decided to wait after hearing a new one was imminent)

  • Tyler Durden

    No 1080p. Nope.

  • http://twitter.com/zbaltrip Zach B

    Mine as well! 2 Zach B’s….weird

  • Chris Cannon

    So it has a REAR camera so you can look like an idiot taking pictures with a tablet, but
    no FRONT camera so you can Hangout with video?

    • 4n1m4L

      Learn to read :-P

  • NexusMan

    May be a silly question, but does this filing at anywhere state that this is a 7″ device? How do we know? The drawing, as well as the landscape orientation, seem to suggest to me that this could very well be a “full sized” Nexus tablet offering from Asus. Why assume it’s a Nexus 7 successor? Why not a Nexus 10 successor?

    • TrueDat

      Why would it be a Nexus 10 successor when that device isn’t even a year old? You think Google would release a successor to the Nexus 10 rather than the almost one year old Nexus 7? I don’t think so.

      Also, if you tilt your head to the side, it becomes portrait. Problem solved :)

      Seriously folks, you can rotate a tablet in portrait and landscape. Just turn it.

      • Cory_S

        Do the labels turn too?

        • BCoils

          i didn’t realize the pic was the actual device.

          • Cory_S

            FCC Filings are usually pretty specific. The entire point of the drawing is to document regulatory labeling.

          • BCoils

            drawing, exactly.

        • TrueDat

          Just cuz the label is in landscape doesn’t mean the device isn’t capable of running in portrait. Ever tried a 10″ tablet?

          • Cory

            Its just an indicator of the intended primary orientation of the device. Aspect ratio plays a big roll

  • dannyWHITE

    I would be VERY surprised if they kept the price around $199. With LTE and a camera added you would have to imagine the price jump.

    • Cory_S

      Basically, it’s a Nexus 4 with a bigger screen. i can see them maintaining that price being long long that’s been out.

    • Butters619

      The $199 one won’t have LTE. Problem solved.

  • clay

    anyone know if those radios support 5ghz wireless N? annoying to run a separate 2.4ghz network just for my nexus 7 (and now ouya too). in my apartment, i can see 50+ 2.4ghz networks, and it only has 3 channels that dont overlap!!

  • Butters619

    That moment of glory when you called an S4 Pro over a 600 or 800.

  • jbreezy

    display resolution? what wifi standard will it have? ac?

  • jdhas

    Oh yes do want.

  • EC8CH

    I don’t really care about LTE or the rear camera…

    • Cory_S

      Oh, crap.. now they aren’t going to make it…why’d you have to go and ruin it for everyone?

      • EC8CH

        Nah, I gave ‘em the go ahead to make it anyway.

        LTE is no biggy anyway you can get a wifi only.

        Back camera adds some cost for little functionality, but I’m sure some people want a camera back there.

        • Tyler Durden

          In a time of smartphone cameras. You have to be stupid to use your tablet as a camera when you have a phone.

          • Roy Harper

            I want it for document scanning, that is all though

          • Tyler

            I would use my tablet over my phone. Nexus 10’s camera is way better than my gnex.

    • TylerChappell

      People who want to take PhotoSpheres care about the rear camera. =]

  • JetRanger

    Those FCC overview drawings are usually a pretty accurate depiction of the device in its primary configuration. Those labeling locations are not consistent with the current N7. Plus the overall aspect ratio of the device does not appear to be the same as the current N7. Maybe the screen size will be a bit bigger (more in line with the iPad Mini or Kindle Fires?) Seems plausible to me considering the labeling suggests a landscape oriented device. Here’s a link to the N7’s 3G FCC filing … Notice the differences in orientation, labeling, and aspect ratio when compared to this current Nexus filing.

    https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=1803995

  • Raven

    It better have HDMI or some kind of wireless display tech like Miracast or I won’t even be considering it. I always feel so limited by that on my current Nexus 7 and I have to keep using my old TF101 for playing video on my big screen.

    • Cory_S

      It will have Miracast. The T3 didn’t support it, the S4 Pro does.

  • Mitch Joa

    It has LTE and a smaller battery than the last nexus 7? Very strange…

    • Butters619

      More efficient chip by a lot. But still would have liked to see battery stay the same or get larger.

  • Blue Sun

    I’m betting it will. June 10th has come & gone without a mention of 4.3…

    • tyguy829

      Kellen said on the DL show that he was hearing June 20th as a possibility

  • Keith0606

    S4 pro is a bit disappointing, was hoping for atleast the 600.

    • Reginald Jefferson

      It makes sense to use the S4 pro over the 600 for the purpose of keeping the cost down.

      • dark_funk

        I don’t know if S4 Pro would keep the price down. Unless the 600 is a larger chip physically, or Qualcomm is sitting on a massive unsold stockpile of S4 Pro chips, I wouldn’t think it’d be any cheaper for Google to order the S4 Pro instead of the 600.

    • Butters619

      S4 Pro has the same Adreno 320 GPU, same cache size, and similar speeds. They even have similar model numbers, You probably wouldn’t notice much between them.

      Plus it should keep price in the right range.

      • Keith0606

        probably right still feels weird paying for what is almost a processor that’s a year old. I’m on the fence about upgrading my current N7 to the new one.

        I see on a few other sites showing that there is another document stating the 600 chip from here https://www.bluetooth.org/tpg/EPL_Detail.cfm?ProductID=30096

        • Butters619

          I bought my gf a Nexus 7 last year but was really waiting until a full HD Nexus 7 came out to buy one myself. I have way too much 1080p ripped content to buy a tablet that can’t support that resolution natively. If you have the last gen N7, the upgrade is a little hard to justify unless you have a similar situation.

        • Kenton Douglas

          Could be S4 for WiFi and S600 for LTe??

      • Kenton Douglas

        Spot on.

  • scb1898

    This makes me a bit excited. If it has a T-Mobile LTE radio, I’ll use T-Mobile’s $30 plan.

    • Cory_S

      Or it’s only 10 bucks as an add on device! With T-Mos new plans I can finally justify having a cellular tablet.

      • scb1898

        Well, hot damn!

  • Justin W

    Really? My WiFi range seems fine, but mine has a massive input lag right now.

    • David Benson

      Yeah, not sure what is going on. I am on the 2nd device (returned the one I bought in Dec) and still having the same issues. I am 25 feet from my router with all doors open and the SpeedTest does not connect and I can’t load a lot of youtube…. sad because everything else about the N10 is awesome

      • Cory_S

        My Nexus 7 lags like crazy now. Seems for whatever reason I have to format data (not wipe data, actually format it) every 6 months to keep performance good.

  • Justin W

    Bets are on 16 and 32GB.

    • Blue Sun

      I want you to be wrong justin W. But I know you will be right.

      • Justin W

        I sure hope I’m wrong. I love my HTC One with 32 GBs onboard, and would love for Google to begin doing the same with their devices.

  • Bobby Cornwell

    I don’t mind the Asus logo on the back, but I want the Nexus logo! Plus I want a soft rubbery grip on the rear of the device like the last one

    • Ian

      I assume the branding will be in line with the last one, small ASUS on the bottom and larger Nexus logo near the top. Don’t fret.

  • Will

    So, since Google is letting a “Nexus” device get LTE…would that not mean that the chances of the next Nexus phone having LTE are now higher?

    • Justin W

      It’s likely. I’m assuming it’s unlocked LTE connectivity, but we’ll have to wait and see.

    • r0lct

      From the new Nexus experience phones I think it’s safe to say it’s going to be ATT/T-Mo only.

    • David Narada Brown

      The next Nexus phone will have LTE, but thats gonna be T mobile and At&t LTE.

    • trophynuts

      also assuming it’s referring non CDMA LTE….

      • smartguy05

        There is no such thing as CDMA LTE. LTE is a GSM technology. What I’m guessing you mean is Verizon band LTE, if that is the case it shouldn’t matter since this is a tablet and has no voice capabilities.

        • BulletTooth_Tony

          Since we’re being technical… LTE is not GSM. It’s LTE, a completely new technology that the GSM *Association* named their 4G tech. GSM as a technology was abandoned at EDGE, and WCDMA was chosen as 3G…..

          • smartguy05

            If we’re getting technical and all I didn’t say it was GSM. I said it is a GSM technology. LTE is an evolution of GSM technology and like I said, there is no such thing as CDMA LTE.

          • BulletTooth_Tony

            Exactly. You said it’s a GSM technology. And just now said it’s an evolution of GSM technology. It is *NOT* a GSM technology. It’s a new technology, chosen by the GSM *Association* to replace W-CDMA, which had replaced GSM as part of the 3GPP.

          • smartguy05

            But according to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE_(telecommunication) and this http://www.4gamericas.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=page&sectionid=249 you are wrong. You find a better source and I’ll believe you.

          • BulletTooth_Tony

            According to that, you can’t read. “using a different radio interface”… Here’s one right from the source,
            http://www.gsma.com/aboutus/gsm-technology/lte
            “Designed to be backwards-compatible with GSM and HSPA, LTE incorporates Multiple In Multiple Out (MIMO) technology, the Orthogonal Frequency Division Multiple Access (OFDMA) air interface in the downlink and Single Carrier FDMA in the uplink.”

          • Zach B.

            Bravo. Such a fascinatingly awful argument on his part. Thanks for doing research and taking the time to learn the different standards and evolution of cellular communication. It’s nice to know someone else GETS it.

          • Tanuj Chokshi

            dude you won a long time ago, let it go it’s nothing to get heated about.

          • BulletTooth_Tony

            The comments are out of order… This is my first reply.

          • smartguy05

            Also W-CDMA didn’t replace GSM, that was cdma2000 which became EV-DO.

          • BulletTooth_Tony

            Are you retarded? CDMA2000 replaced cdmaOne – these are all Qualcomm technologies in the Verizon/Sprint “CDMA” world. W-CDMA is not related in any way, shape, or form. It was developed by NTT DoCoMo, submitted to the 3GPP as a candidate technology for 3G, and adopted and formalized as UMTS which then superceded the GSM 3G technology, EDGE.

          • smartguy05

            And you are still incorrect and have yet to show any form of source for your information. I would submit that you are in fact the one with the mental insufficiency. Here is another link proving you wrong once more. http://electronicdesign.com/content/evolution-lte

          • Zach B.

            Nope. This link kinda shoots yourself in the foot.

          • BulletTooth_Tony

            Dude… just stop replying. I provided a source. From the GSM Association itself. Not only that, I know the technologies. I also read your newest link, which you clearly haven’t. You’re wrong. Get over it.

          • Zach B.

            Correct. Very correct.

          • Zach B.

            Nope. Not even close.

    • Jared Tau

      I don’t think there will be another Nexus device on Verizon until VoLTE rolls out.

  • Nicholas Tino

    Landscape hmm, we sure this is a 7in?

    • BCoils

      I hope it doesn’t come in white with that orange/red square on the back too! lol

  • http://www.droid-life.com Kellex B

    I’m almost thinking that’s just a terrible mock-up by the FCC.

    • EC8CH

      god I hope so.

      Landscape orientation on a 7 inch tab is wack.

  • Ray Garcia

    Time to put my Nexu 7 on ebay or Craigs List. :P

  • JoshGroff

    And to think I just bought a Galaxy tab 8.9 to hold me over. >.>

    • ahhh yes

      and i just looked for one…wesellcellular on ebay has them for only $149 w LTE

      • JoshGroff

        I know, grabbed one from them. :) Should be coming in either today or tomorrow. LTE enabled with decent specs for 149, and I can throw Ubuntu on it, definitely seemed like a good buy.

        • ahhh yes

          just bought myself one!

          • JoshGroff

            Mine just came in. Much better condition than I expected. Web browsing is fairly slow on stock, but i plan on remedying that later.

  • Shane Redman

    All my hopes and dreams!