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HTC Happy About Galaxy S4 Reviews, Says They Will Be Good for HTC One Sales

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This week the wave of Galaxy S4 reviews hit the Internet, with most sites praising Samsung’s newest phone for being a decent upgrade to the Galaxy line. However, most reviews, like our own, mentioned the clear difference in build quality when compared with the HTC One. HTC is openly proud of this fact and is loving the press for their new flagship device. 

The president of HTC in America, Mike Woodward was quoted on the subject this week and is positive about their sales. While not going too far and announcing any sales numbers, Woodward said it’s been a “great week” and that sales are going well so far. He said in most Galaxy S4 reviews, the design of the One stands out, “the design seems to be attracting the most attention and we’re really proud of that.”

If HTC could get their supply chain fixed, the battle between the One and the Galaxy S4 might start heating up here pretty soon.

Via: Business Insider

  • LionStone

    Bravo…well said! +100 !

  • What’s with all the comments praising the likes of HTC One. First it’s a clone lookalike of iPhone, and like iPhone, has no removable battery, no MicroSD card option. End of story for me! As for build quality, I have never had a problem with Sammy phones and I don’t like the cold feel of the all metal phones, as well as the minuses attached to the all in one case. HTC sense really never made any sense to me, and I prefer Touch Wiz above all other “standard” skins.Also the Sammy removable back allows for the clever flip covers and the new S4 clip cover accessory with “Quick View” feature, not available on any other phone!

  • LionStone
  • LiterofCola

    The HTC One is a great looking phone, having said that, the UI sucks and it’s not available on Verizon…..yeah, not interested.

  • Chris Mullins

    The S4 gets bad reviews for “copying” the iPhone by making a tiny and insignificant change and calling it a whole new phone, while the HTC One took the route of just shoving Apple’s design in your face with an aluminum uni-body case like all iPhones have had. Bicker and moan all you want, even though the S4 and One are far superior, they’re crappy knock offs.

  • Ben

    I bet money that the S4 out sells the htc one…that’s all I need to say!

  • cb2000a

    HTC has a huge hit on their hands. Most new owners are giving this phone a five star rating and are passing on the S4 (as it is too much like the 3). This will be good for HTC.

  • cb2000a

    HTC has a winner. Reading reviews on Amazon and people love this phone. I might even take a look at one.

  • John S

    I had the Incredible for 2 years and no more HTC for me ever. Previous owners of HTC know the deal.

  • Patrick

    Samsung Galaxy S4 still better then HTC One. and this is coming from someone who bought the HTC One, but later sold to someone else because Galaxy S4 felt better and is better

  • jnt

    Also, for those bashing the Tbolt, keep in mind that half of its problems were Verizon’s fault. LTE was a beta product, at best, when the Tbolt was released. The Tbolt was basically the first phone to beta test LTE among the public…

    • Doug Wing

      I had both a TBolt and a Flyer and I swore I would never buy another HTC product ever again. The ONE …… man I’ve got to see one up close in a Verizon store (if it comes), but it could make me eat my words.

  • fanboy1974

    HTC never got the memo that One sales will be zero on Verizon. Without every”One” on board it will not beat the S4.

  • Destroythanet

    Are there any stats on the percentage of smartphone users in general and iphone users in particular who use cases? I’m thinking the “premium feel of metal” point is a bit overblown.

    • Dan

      I’m sure some web sites have done a survey……

  • jnt

    I’ve had a Inc, Inc 2, Thunderbolt, Sensation (Tmo), and now the One (Tmo). The Thunderbolt definitely had issues with LTE. But on wifi only, I could get a whole weekend of battery life. The Inc 2 was one of the best 3g-only phones out there, easily getting 2 days of battery life. The Sensation was similar. HTC’s phones have a bad rap for battery life. I’m not saying they’re the best, but they’re not as bad as everyone says they are. HTC does a good job with the phones “idling” – i.e. when you’re not using them, the battery life hardly moves (except the Tbolt while on LTE!).

    We just moved back to T-Mobile and I’ve had a One for a few days now. LTE isn’t out here yet, but I’m getting a day+ easily – and yes, I use my phone. It’s the first Android device I’ve had that felt on par with the iPhone when it comes to that ‘how it feels in your hand’ factor (not build quality, but just how it feels). It’s also one of the smoothest / snappiest Android experiences I’ve had. About the only time it lags a bit is when installing apps, which is just Android…

    I still might swap it for the S4 – *might* – I’m just a fan. But each day that goes by decreases that chance and I love the One even more.

    Just sayin… don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater! 🙂

  • Guest

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  • I had the Samsung Galaxy 3 and the Nexus 4 and now the HTC ONE….this phone is absolutely in a WHOLE different arena than these two phones! I have always loved Samsung. I have had the Samsung Galaxy S too. But holding this HTC One phone is my hand is like no other experience I have ever had! First the premium metal is sexy and gorgeous and I know I have a premium phone in my hand! The LCD 1080p 469ppi is amazing! The GS4 has a ppi of 441 and uses a variation of the pentile matrix arrangement. On the GS3 you have one tiny speak on the back, the HTC One has the BEST speakers of any phone ever! The Beats Boom stereo sound that comes out these speakers are AMAZING! I can’t begin to describe it! I LOVE HTC Sense 5.0, its a more “adult” and slim and sexy UI than the cartoonish touchwiz of the GS4. The 4.0 Ultra Pixel is amazing too! Don’t get me wrong the GS4 is a great phone, but a lot of the things that the GS4 does is just a gimmick. The air touch? Give me a break it take more effort to hoover your finger over something than it is just to touch it. And it take more effort to move your whole hand over a screen than it does just to flick your finger to move around the home screens. And come on…eye detection? That’s just freaky. Again, just gimmicks. Sorry Samsung, but the HTC is the ONE for 2013!!

  • Seth Schorr

    I have had HTC’s Droid Incredible and it was a good phone. I wouldn’t buy the One though. Sense is more bloated than ever before and with that Flipboard clone always on the home page, well that’s a deal breaker. Even it’s build is useless. It will only jar the phone harder in a fall, whereas the S4 plastic will spread the shock and do less damage.
    The only thing worth anything on the phone is the front facing speakers. Good one HTC.

    • JoshGroff

      Not to mention the signal, plastic is a lot less of an inhibitor than aluminum.

      I am currently using a DNA and am running a sense 5 port, it actually performs fairly well. It’s surprising how a quad core cpu with 2GB of ram makes even sense glide smooth as butter. 😉 That being said, I can always throw on a sense free ROM of I see a need to. Blink feed is pretty convenient for keeping up with news and what not, and I seriously doubt it affects performance more than the average widget. Sure you can’t remove it, but you can set a regular page as your home page and just ignore the blink feed page. Or you can go about throwing on a different launcher and freezing everything you don’t use like we used to do back in the good ol days.

  • Doc3

    Have the HTC One and loving it!

  • shmigga

    So HTC is happy that the S4 has owned the One in the latest reviews?

  • ApplesNAndroids

    If HTC would leave android alone and continue to use premium build qualities I’d be “one” that would be all I’ve their devices. Hell, I hate to say it but I prefer touchwiz over sense.

  • Jack

    S4 will be my next phone for sure and it will be the best till note 3 and nexus 5 comes out in the fall. Just not digging the HTC one what’s so every.

    • jack

      What so ever I meant damm auto correct lol

  • Hatyrei

    it’s almost 9 months now, from the promised update and my HTC Incredible 2 haven’t seen the light of the official ICS update. rofl , I’m still hesitating on buying an HTC product tooo. I’m happy with my Nexus 4 for now…HTC ONE & GS4 is still on my list. hmmmp.

  • Tim242

    Reviewers and HTC are crazy with their opinion of build quality. First of all, most consumers couldn’t care less what the phone is made out of, as they immediately smother it with a plastic case. That being said, there is nothing bad about the build quality of the S4. The entire front of the device is Gorilla Glass 3. The rim around it is a high quality polycarbonate like the praised One X. It even fooled some reviewers, like Droild Life, that claimed it as metal in their review. The back PLATE is a flexible plastic that allows for a removable battery. A polycarbonate or metal back would mean no removable battery. This build quality BS is made up by bloggers and fanboys. That is all.

    • Chris

      Yes, but go ahead and look at the millions of people with iPhones. Every single person I know raves about and loves the “premium” feel and “metal” feel to it. So while you may not care if it’s plastic or not, tons of people do. I think it would be neat to have the HTC One, but it’s not on Verizon.

      • Tim242

        Dude, I have been working in cell phone stores for over 2 years. Not one person has mentioned the metal build. As a matter of fact, 99% buy an Otter box immediately.

        • Chris

          Weird. I guess it all just comes down to personal preference then. All my friends always talk about the premium build and it’s aggravating lol

          • Tim242

            They are just iPhone fans that try to win some imaginary contest. The S4 is a much better phone, build and all. If they need more battery, they have to put on a mophie juice pack. The S4 has a bigger battery, and it is removable. Aluminum is not exactly premium build. It dings and dents very easily. It’s quite fragile.

      • So funny because I rarely ever see a naked iPhone in the wild. Those millions of iPhone owners must have loved the feel when they unboxed it and that was it.

        • Chris

          Really?

          You know what I love and shows that iPhone build quality really isn’t good?

          I’ve seen at least 15 people with naked iPhones. About 14 of them have cracked screens, lmao.

        • flosserelli

          Naked iphones are as rare as virgin sorority girls. Besides, once you drop an all-metal gadget, it’s just like the first door ding on a new car — it’s never the same. If your device is at least partly plastic, then you have a chance of erasing drop damage by replacing the defective part.

    • EC
      • Tim242

        I have seen that already. Did you not notice that more people PREFERRED THE S4 ?

  • PhillipCun

    I WISH I HAD IT FOR VERIZON :[[[

  • Jesusv

    I just pre ordered 2 S4’s as an upgrade to our Tbolts, I would have considered the One as an upgrade option if it was on Verizon. In the end though, it will take more than aesthetics to be the deciding factor for me. Every phone has their pluses and minuses, some people care more about the look and feel than others. I just want the damn thing to work smooth and fast!

  • yungqb7

    Ok you have aluminum…… that’s it. Played with both phone already for an hour +. Had more fun using the gs4, definitely worth having for 2 years. Sorry HTC, you can’t make your phone out of adamantium and I still wouldn’t buy it if was just like the One.

    • jahsoul

      But bro, your phone would be indestructible..

      • yungqb7

        You do have a good point, but I would be bored of it nonetheless. The GS4 had me going through the settings and features like it was a priority. Used the phone just to use it, nothing too enthralling. I cannot see myself using Zoe at all.

  • The Dude

    Stop saying ‘build quality’ when what you mean is ‘good looks and non-plastic material’.

    I can’t believe an Android site like DL of all places would perpetuate this myth. If a Samsung phone starts to fall apart or is less durable than the HTC/Apple phone, *then* you can talk about build quality.

    • Chris

      I’ve seen more samsung cracks than HTC cracks. Pure and simple.

      • Tim242

        Negative

        • Chris

          Positive. I’ve been selling phones since 2007. I think the stats I’ve witnessed speak for themselves. A lot more than your 2 years in the biz. HTC has always had less structural problems.

          • Tim242

            HTC less structural problems? Hahaha What are you smoking? My store is a warranty repair store. HTC phones make up 99% of the phones brought in for hardware failure. Some issues include: earpiece failure, display failure, display detaching, and the worst software issues you can imagine. I was a Sprint customer back in the day. I remember my display moving up an down on my EVO. The battery cover never hooked on correctly. I had the Incredible and Thunderbolt on Verizon. Don’t even get me started on that. The store rep actually bent the aluminum on my Thunderbolt trying to get the battery cover off. I’ve had many HTC phones over the years, even before Android even existed. I’ve learned to avoid them at all cost.

    • Tim242

      Agreed! I posted a long comment above saying the same thing.

  • hinder portillo

    The galaxy s4 active will fix the cheap feel of Samsung so all this htc one fanboys can stop talking about how great the thc one feels…. just in case you’re wondering i own a Samsung note 2 and couldn’t be any happier:)

  • Ryan Clayton

    As a current Thunderbolt owner…there is ZERO chance I’d ever buy another HTC phone. I hate Sense with a passion and having to install a bunch of different apps to replace what was already perfect in AOSP (IMO) is a waste of space and processing power. Not to mention is slows down the update process. Getting Ice Cream Sandwich recently, months after Jelly Bean has been released is a joke. I want AOSP and I will never buy another device (phone or tablet) that isn’t. (

    -Nexus 7 owner and seriously eyeballing the Nexus 4

    • David Dudovitz

      The Droid DNA is a great phone, don’t judge them by their 2011 crap, the update situation has more to do w/Verizon than anything else.

      • Ryan Clayton

        It’s not just VZ. I do understand they cause some delay in releasing updates but Sense makes that take even longer. In some cases (I forgot which phone) they said they couldn’t even update it because with Sense, the update wouldn’t fit on the phone (which turned out to be pure lies if you look at the custom ROMs). If I can’t judge a company by their past products, what do I judge them on? Their promise that things have changed?

    • roberthenderson

      Just get a really good case, that back is fragile.

      • Ryan Clayton

        Never used a case on my phones. Don’t use screen protectors either. I am careful with my phone. My Thunderbolt (aside from the kickstand) is mint.

        • Tim242

          I like my phones naked too bro.

  • roberthenderson

    HTC,
    Give me a call when you get a big screen, sd card and a big and/or removable battery

    • T4rd

      And he never heard from HTC ever again…

      • roberthenderson

        Big lol

    • David Dudovitz

      Droid DNA has a 5-inch screen. If you want a Note, go get a Note.

      • Tim242

        But it lacks the other 2. Comprehension is key.

  • Bert336

    If Verizon would had snatched this as well their numbers would had increased tremendously!

  • mcdonsco

    I have been buying Motorola’s for years now (og droid, x, x2, RAZR, RAZR Maxx and now RAZR Maxx HD) primarily because of build quality (and for the maxx’s, battery life)…but at this point, knowing my phones are always in an otter box anyway, I’m buying the s4 for function…motirolas build quality is and always has been amazing, but the phones LAG now, not sure why, but ever since the first RAZR they do…so…by moto, hello Sammy.

  • snobrdr2324

    I’m glad the android world has finally put out two phones worth arguing over. The samsung vs apple argument was getting really tired.

  • How much must it hurt HTC to have to admit that their “design” was so ripped from the iPhone that they had to pay Apple to license it just so they didn’t get sued.

  • jamie stevens

    If they would have said fu to att and allowed other carries to sell the 64gb they would have sold/made more

  • mcdonsco

    Why does the T-Mobile site still say galaxy s4 available online April 24th? Do they not have any proof readers for their site? The date has come and gone guys.

  • Daniel

    GOOD, because the One is a superior phone, just a shame it hasn’t been announced for Verizon yet…

    • T4rd

      It won’t be announced for Verizon either. There’s rumors of the DLX (I think it’s called so far) that might be a One variant, but I’m sure it’ll be watered down and ruined somehow like all Verizon HTC phones are compared to their GSM flagship and you can only expect 8 months of real software support for it.

      • It’ll have VZW logo slathered all over it, red highlights, excess bloatward, a locked bootloader and probably something (other than the CDMA radio) to make it more of a PITA for the devs. No AOSP, no dice for me.

    • Tim242

      To claim an HTC phone superior makes me LOL…no, literally

  • BroChaos

    man, bunch of fan boys. do you guys not remember samsung flat out lying to their customers about support? do you not remember motorola being saved by the OG Droid and then locking down everything since then? do you not remember most of the crap HTC has released in the past 2 years? every manufacturer has/had their issues.

    • T4rd

      Anything that happened more than a year or two ago is pretty much irrelevant nowadays. Having said that, I think HTC has a bit more issues than other OEMs.

  • touchwiz is the ugliest skin put over android since the original blur days with Motorola. Almost all of the new “features” are completely useless and don’t make using the phone any easier.

    Don’t get me wrong, I’m a big fan of samsung, my gnex was a great phone. However I think Samsung are focusing on the wrong things right now. Instead of gimmiky software features they should be working on better build quality and legitimate improvements to Android.

    • andrew galvin

      +1 for their hideous UI

    • Tim242

      Some of the features may be gimmicks, but some are very useful. The hover feature comes in very handy in browsers to explains menus. Multi window is not something I use every day, but when I need it, so glad it is there. The camera software on the S4 is best in class. Have you seen the reviews?

      • Bionicman

        yea not to mention if it is similar to the spen, you CAN use the hover feature to zoom in on other applications. I use my spen from my Note 2 to go left or right, up down on a webpage, zoom into long text sentences but again thats assuming they are similar in that way.

      • turb0wned

        I fail to understand how the hover feature is useful at all. It’s more of a wow factor for the first week.

        • Tim242

          I explained its most useful use. There are many websites with expandable menus. On a computer, you would use your mouse to hover over it, then choose the option to click. On a phone, all you can do is click. It will be nice to not have to pull out an S-Pen to use that feature.

    • jzwerlz43

      If you think it’s hideous put a third party launcher over it and hide whatever features you don’t like problem solved

      • Diablo81588

        Touch wiz is not a launcher.

        • Christopher Riner

          It would still get covered up and look like stock (android) if you put say, nova on there

          • goodbyebb

            Not really…have you tried it? That only affects the home screen and app drawer. Touchwiz is still highly obtrusive in every other part of the phone (notifications, menus, settings, etc…).

          • Christopher Riner

            Ahhh, OK, and no I haven’t tried it. Not since gingerbread and that definitely took all of touchwiz (except for system ui stuff like status bar). Even just putting launcher pro on there kept you from being able to use touchwiz widgets. Someone else made this comment in a forum so I figured it was still like that

  • Bryce Mrozinski

    I love my One, I know at least 10 people that have bought one in the last week and they love theirs. All of them coming from a Samsung device. With a CM build in progress and about daily usable, this phone is absolutely amazing.

    • Tim242

      The camera is already lacking. When you put CM on it, it will be even worse. It will not have the software that enhances it.

      • Bryce Mrozinski

        I think the camera does pretty well. Especially low light. Have you used the phone or basing it off friends thoughts? Reviews of the camera say it’s fantastic btw.. even Giz said it was good.

        • Tim242

          It only does well if you are just taking pics for Facebook. Every reviewer has said that normal photos lack detail due to it being 4MP. I rarely print pictures, but I need that to be an option. I do a lot of zooming, cropping, and editing. It looks horrible on the One. I tried it and discussed it at the Sprint Store I used to work at

  • Rickerbilly

    If you want polish go get a rock and polish it! I want a awesome device and the Samsung line offers it. I am tired of hearing about build quality when I’ve dropped all my Samsung s multiple times in all kinds of situations. Each time they have survived! Isn’t that good build quality?? Give me break!

    • Yes its all well and good but people these days are so superficial that they care about looks and the status symbol associated with their phones.

      Its just all part of the downward spiral of American Culture.

      • andrew galvin

        you act as if designer clothes, diamonds and sports cars are an american thing. People like well built things. Bottom line, an aluminum phone feels and looks more premium than a plastic one. But plastic is more durable to scratches.

        • Tell that to my note 2 that got a scratch at the back while I’m running my finger across the surface

        • Tim242

          The entire front of both phones is Gorilla Glass 3. What people are looking at looks the same.

      • ceejw

        People who care about their phone as a status symbol will be buying a Galaxy S4 or the iPhone. Those are the popular brand names that people know about. The new metal phone from HTC that no one has heard of is not a status symbol.

        • MicroNix

          Yeah, the buzz at the office is *not* about the HTC One. Its about the release date of the S4. Sorry, but those who get off on build quality are totally in the minority.

    • kg215

      Yup people forget that Aluminum is more likely to break or chip/dent than polyurethane. The HTC One looks better that is for sure, build quality wise it is not better it might even be more fragile. Aluminum is not exactly the strongest material.

    • andrew galvin

      you could use the term “build quality” to describe the grade of materials and design of a product, or you could use it to describe the durability, as you are. The overall design and materials used in the HTC One blow the doors off the s4. It simply is a better designed phone from an appearance and materials stand point. Samsung’s phone likely is more durable since it is plastic but to me that doesn’t equal build quality. If the phone’s screen fails or something like that due to poor quality control or design then you could say it was bad build quality. A rolex has higher build quality than a G shock watch but the g shock is much more durable. You could make something beautiful out of glass but at the end of the day it is still fragile. That doesn’t mean it was built poorly.

      • LionStone

        Agreed. Again! +100

      • MicroNix

        At the end of the day, what exactly does that high build quality give you other than yourself a boner? Seriously. For something you will throw away in a year or two, what *advantage* does that build quality give you?

  • Chris

    After having the Droid Eris, I’ll never touch an HTC phone again; yes, it was that bad.

    • cryosx

      you’re missing out

      • Urugami

        My wife had the Eris, its touch-screen failed. The HTC she has now is eating batteries in 6 hours, just sitting on the table, on wifi. New battery, too. A reset from VZW didn’t fix it.
        I’ll believe this legendary HTC “Build Quality” when I see it in the wild for a few months. Honestly, how well can they build things if they can’t get the parts?

        • Feed Jake

          The Eris was a CHAMP! How dare anyone speak harshly about that phone! It was the Rudy of Android smartphones. It was my first…yes I said it, my first. And I loved it, and it me. I learned what rooting and roming were all about. And then I gave it to my brother, and he destroyed it. And a piece of me died. LONG LIVE THE ERIS!

          • Tim242

            Haha. Love that song that bares your screen name.

        • Butters619

          What phone does she have now? You just say ‘HTC’ but give no details.

    • angermeans

      I say the same about every Motorola and Samsung device I’ve ever owned.

      • kg215

        They have had some worthless phones but they never failed as badly HTC has done with the Thunderbolt, or the Eris for that matter.

        • New_Guy

          Previous Thunderbolt owner myself and the thing was garbage. Such a bad taste. I now own a Note 2…yeah, I’m not even going to go into the difference. Lets just say Samsung has EARNED my dollar for quite some time.

          • LionStone

            Oh thank you for not going into the difference between 2 phones that are 2 years apart! Hehe!

          • New_Guy

            Oh you again. Evening, kiddo. Didn’t think you’d be hanging around the threads. Had I known, I would have made sure to speak more clearly. This is for you:

            I was referring to the experience I had with each company and not the devices. For example, I took my Note 2 out of the box, 2 weeks later it received an updated version of Android, has battery life that is out of this world, and is blazing fast . On the other hand, I took my Thunderbolt out of the box and the battery died in 4 hours, never maintained a signal, and received its first version of ICS… hmm, when was it again… oh yeah, 2 months ago…

            I even have an Asus Transformer which Asus recently made the only non Nexus tablet with 4.2.1. Asus has even stepped up their game. What version of Android does the One have?… Oh, and the S4 has what, you say? Oh… Okay…

        • angermeans

          I disagree. I owned the thunderbolt and hated it, but I far hated my Droid x, Xoom, gs1, and gs3 (this one wasn as bad as the thunderbolt i just dont like the cheap hardware, display, and touchwiz) even more.

          • MicroNix

            Funny but *my* S3 has a fantastic display and great hardware. Oh yeah, and was upgraded to JB. Oh yeah, and scheduled to be upgraded to KLP. In fact, my S3 is the first Android phone that I didn’t need to run out and root/rom it out of the gate just to get performance. Its the first Android phone with 2GB of ram which makes it butter smooth compared to others. While everyone has their personal tastes, to say the S3 display is bad can only be called trolling.

          • New_Guy

            With a good amount of experience with the S3, I have to agree with you on that.

        • turb0wned

          Droid Charge? Motorola Bionic?

          • LionStone

            Yep…Fascinate? lol

          • Diablo81588

            Bionic is fine.. Still using it with zero problems.

    • HonestPig

      After having gs3 sudden death, and ativ tablet keyboard connection nightmare , I will never touch those plastic crap from Samsung, yeah, it’s that bad.

      • New_Guy

        At least Samsung worked their butts off to remedy the suddon death issue going forward. Us Thunderbolt owners on the other hand…if you never owned one, I’m not sure you could understand. HTC is going to have to prove itself before it gets money from a lot of us who owned it. Just the way it is.

        • Dain Laguna

          Kinda unfair to compare the thunderbolt to the s3 isnt it? The s3’s equivalent was never on verizon. They have proven themselves.

          • New_Guy

            And…who’s fault is that?… All they’ve proven is they can make a decent phone with slow updates that hasn’t sold well. All I know is HTC went into the toilet after the One X was released, while Samsung took over the world after the S3 was released.

    • Kevin McDole

      My first Droid, got it the day it came out. Then upgraded to a Rezound. Will be upgrading to the One if it comes to Verizon. If not will leave Verizon for AT&T.

  • GarnetandBlack

    Great design for the One or not, the Thunderbolt soured me on HTC permanently. I will never buy another HTC phone again.

    • If that was the norm, who would we buy from, Apple? Samsung has its own failures. HTC had the Blunderbolt and Motorola had the Bubonic.

      • GarnetandBlack

        Not sure where I said that my opinion was the norm… Nevertheless, my experience with Moto is limited to the OG Droid. With Samsung, to the Galaxy Nexus, and with HTC to the Thunderbolt. Two of those were good experiences… If it were not for the Blackberry Storm, the Thunderbolt would be the worst smart phone I’ve ever owned.

        Add in that it does not allow for more storage or a removable battery and is absent from Verizon and HTC has zero opportunity to redeem itself in my eyes with the One. Again, great design or not.

        • PhillipCun

          Funny. I had the SAME exact phones. OG Droid > Thunderbolt > Gnex. Pretty sure it won’t go to Verizon, but if it did I would still buy the HTC One. HTC is turning over a new leaf, this is going to make or break the company. I think this is THE BEST android out today IMO.

          • michael arazan

            Only because Verizon tries to label every phone on their network with Droid, and wants something Different to differentiate itself from other carriers. Sometimes Different isn’t Good! The same way Manufacturer’s think they need skins on top of android.

        • Definitely had the same exact line up of phones as you did. I absolutely hated the TBolt. Nothing but lagging and restarts. I said I was never going to get another HTC phone ever since they always seem to have problems pertaining to their ui (never liked Sense). But I got the HTC One and love it. The speakers are amazing and the display is above all. Could not be happier. Though I still have my GNex. :p Taking that to the grave with me. 😉

      • endurotech

        …”and Motorola had the Bubonic.”

        Well played.

      • kevin

        Its kinda funny…My very first android phone was the Bionic…God at first I hated android so much when I did that…Then I got a Gnex and all was well again 🙂

    • New_Guy

      And build quality isn’t enough for me. Sure, it has a better build, but that’s not to say the S4’s is bad, just not as good. Otherwise, other than those monster speakers, the S4 outshines the One in screen quality, battery life, camera performance (in normal light), and in functionailty with the removable battery and storage. Sine most use cases on their phones I still say this will be an eye-opener for HTC in a not-so-exciting way.

      • Dain Laguna

        Ill give you removable storage and battery, but screen and battery? You been reading reviews?

        • New_Guy

          Yep, more than I can count on two hands. I guess you could say screen is up to subjection as I love the vibrance of AMOLED screens. But you’re not seriously about to argue battery life…

          • The One

            What about the AMOLED burn-ins? Arent AMOLED screens by Samsung supposed to degrade after 5-6 months??

          • New_Guy

            I’ve heard that being an issue with the old S1, but I haven’t heard that since. My wife has the S2 and hers looks like the day she bought it. I work with a lot of people with S2s and S3s and they all seem fine. My uncle has the original Galaxy Note. His is great. I really don’t believe this is an issue any longer. Would be pretty difficult to sell 50 million S3s if the screens didn’t last.

          • New_Guy

            Here’s everything you need to know:

            http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S4_ShootOut_1.htm

          • LionStone

            Speaking of battery life… If you love Amoled screens then you must love using lots of battery on it. No wonder Samsung is sticking with removable backs! My stock dna, all 4G, all…day…long 🙂

          • New_Guy

            Pffff, ha! Try again. The Note 2 comes standard with a 3,100mAh battery. Battery has never been called to question by… well… anyone.

            Enjoy hand-holding that DNA battery though. It’s a good phone. But battery life vs the note 2 is just the wrong battle.

          • LionStone

            As my good friend Tim242 says, “Reading comprehension is key.” I never questioned the battery ‘life’ of the N2, I mean duh, it’s a brick so uh yea…I was talking about battery efficiency and I mentioned the battery efficiency of the DNA’s 5″ 1080p screen. Over 3 hours screen time and 9% battery used! If you call 17 hrs average, “hand-holding” for a 2020 mAh sealed battery, then you must really have some special usage needs.

            But go ahead a side step my point about the battery usage of AMOLED SCREENS…but it doesn’t really matter right? because it gets them through the day, just like the DNA does for me. It’s a choice to have a brick of a phone, don’t have to get so butt-hurt over it, enjoy your brick 🙂

          • New_Guy

            … I will enjoy the most capable and productive mobile device on the planet.

          • kioshi

            all you showed was stats. No info on what apps you used and “HOW” you used your phone….give better stats. I can stare at my screen on my Nexus 4 and achieve those stats/even better than your DNA.

            Show me what apps you ran and for how long..not enough detail to brag, guy….

          • MicroNix

            I have absolutely no issues with my stock S3 battery and have only once needed a charge inside of a day.

          • LionStone

            That’s great, me too as you can see… except I’m pushing a bigger, 1080p screen, 441 ppi, with a 2020 mAh battery…oh, and that “1” in the notification indicates hotspot, tethered about 3 hours 🙂

          • kg215

            Even if your battery doesn’t crap out, all batteries decline over time. Good luck trying to get the same amount of battery life in a year or two. Don’t get why you are trying to brag, the DNA is inferior to the One and S4 and it hasn’t been out that long (HTC and Verizon completely screwed you, as usual). If you mess with settings the S4 has more headroom to improve battery life, and amoled is generally more power efficient than lcd. HTC has better power management with the pre-installed software but you have to when your battery is smaller and non-removable. Even then the S4 lasts longer than the One and when it’s battery declines you can get a brand new one for cheap. You can also get an extended battery or bring spares. Oh yea and your DNA battery is even smaller than the one on the HTC One, lol.

          • LionStone

            Yep that’s right batteries degrade over time, but do you have any evidence of how much over how long? Especially with newer batteries like the DNA, if you do, please include your reference.

            Brag? Ha… just sharing what it can do. The One’s screen is a little smaller with a bigger battery, so its just fine, as many are reporting already. DNA “inferior”? Hilarious! But, of course you said so… so it must be true!

            “Even then the S4 lasts longer than the One…” Really? Battery tests have already shown the One is as good as the S4 AND beats it in Browsing! Like over an hour difference with a smaller battery!
            http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-battery-tests-are-done-heres-how-it-did/

            Ok buddy, I’m getting screwed with an average battery life of 17 hrs! You guys are really funny! 🙂

          • Chris Hannan

            3 hours of screen on time isn’t anything to brag about. If you’re not getting at least that, your phone has terrible battery life.

          • Diablo81588

            Agreed.

          • LionStone

            Again, let me spell it out…The screen shot I shared is for showing battery efficiency on a 5″, 1080p screen!
            Also, screen time doesn’t always show complete battery results because when you’re TETHERED, the screen is OFF! Furthermore, I’m pretty sure I have great batt life, since I’m the user of my phone and it handles ‘my’ usage extremely well.

          • Chris Hannan

            That’s good that it handles your usage okay but it’s still not impressive. It’s just average.

          • Diablo81588

            Not that impressive..

          • LionStone

            for 9% battery used for over 3 hours screen time, on a 5″, 1080p screen? Ok, please share what IS impressive then. Remember back before the DNA came out, how everyone said it was gonna suck the battery? Yeaa… 🙂

          • Diablo81588

            Impressive is 7 hours of screen on time, over double what your phone got. 3 hours of screen on time is less than average for most phones.

          • LionStone

            HaHa! I have a life…I’d shoot myself if I was staring at my phone that many hours in a day!

    • RaptorOO7

      I was a launch day Thunderbolt user and soon after hated it, and within 2 months it was gone. One of the biggest POS HTC ever put out.

      • New_Guy

        Right there with you, but I held on to mine. Rod and customs roms until it couldn’t take it anymore. Glad it’s gone.

        • LionStone

          No wonder… you jacked it up. Mine is stock and still runs perfectly fine to this day 🙂

          • New_Guy

            No it doesn’t…

            I returned mine to stock hoping against hope that HTC got it right…

            They did not. I’ve got friends who have the T bolts running stock and theirs are crappy too.

          • cb2000a

            I will never run a custom rom after what one did to my OG Droid.

      • chris125

        I hated that phone. Even with the extended battery, battery life was still atrocious. Not to mention the multiple replacements I had to get because the phone kept having hardware issues due to poor QC

    • Shaikh&GuestLoveMe

      Yea, and the Samsung Droid Charge soured people from Samsung permanently… Yet they buy a GS3
      LG G2X soured people from LG permanently…Yet they continue to buy a Nexus 4
      Point is that just because one phone is bad it won’t mean the new ones are as bad.

      • New_Guy

        Faster updates (ie Galaxy line, Nexus 4), that would be a big step in the right direction. Then reduce the Sense. Another step. Until they are willing to do at least one of these, they’re going to have a tough time regaining customers they’ve squandered away. Aluminum unibodies are not enough.

        • Shaikh&GuestLoveMe

          Ive been waiting for the next HTC Nexus since the original Nexus ONE. I liked the design and how it had a scroll-ball with RGB light notifications.

          • New_Guy

            I loved the lighting effect that the notifications beneath the scroll ball had =). THAT was innovative. I’m not sure where the innovation is these days with HTC. While Samsung is throwing every feature at the wall to see what sticks, HTC seems content with Sense and blinkfeed and trying to convince us all that 4mp cameras are cool. Neither of those three are cool but these are the “features” that they’re pushing.

            And I know the One takes good low light pictures. But honestly, I use a flash. And it’s normal light photos are all terrible when enlargend. They’ve been described as looking like watercolor paintings.

    • JoshGroff

      Need I point this out to everyone that all first gen lte devices had their fair share of problems, and surprisingly it was the bionic that had the least. Did you ever hear someone say I love my droid charge? Not saying the thunderbolt had an excuse, just that it wasnt the only lemon to come out of the first line of lte devices.

    • MicroNix

      If anyone hasn’t learned from the T-Bolt and the Rezound, then there’s just no talking sense into them. When the S3 and S4 are on KLP, the HTC One will no doubt still be sitting on JB based on their track record. Build quality is not what the majority of people look for in a phone, its function. Now if we actually used the same phone for 10 years, then maybe HTC has an advantage, but with the way they update their phones, hell no!

    • Christopher Riner

      Yeah, but how Long ago was that? Don’t miss out on the best phone of today BC of a 3year old device.

    • Every company lays an egg every once in a while (some more than others). You’re entitled to your own opinion, but me personally, I can never hold a company to their past failures. Companies like Hyundai, Kia, Ford or Microsoft, Apple, Samsung, would all just wilt away into nothing if everyone had the same thought process as you.

  • Retrokid223

    Im a huge samsung fan but its time for a change. I want the htc one but I do not wanna leave verizon, hopefully we get a varient soon.

  • Jeremy Case

    I don’t see it as a competition S4 has a removable battery, SD card support, bigger screen and a bigger battery. S4 FTW

    • I’m more with what David Pierce from The Verge said:

      “I think design matters. Polish matters. The Galaxy S4 is fast and impressive, but it’s also noisy and complex. The One is refined, quiet, comfortable, beautiful, and above all simply pleasant. I love using that phone, in a way I haven’t experienced with anything since the iPhone 5. That’s why, when my contract is up in June, I’ll probably be casting my lot with HTC instead of Samsung.”

      • Design matters but not at the cost of utility and functionality – which is why all these people whining and complaining about plastic phones is so bothersome. Having a unibody, metal phone is all well and good, but I’d rather have the removable battery, the durability of plastic, and the other options that the plastic phone gives me as opposed to something that just looks nice.

        Having a Ferrari in your driveway is one thing – but if it doesn’t have an engine then what use is it?

        • andrew galvin

          only the hardcore old guard of android are complaining about lack of SD slot and removable batteries. The average consumer does not care about that. A battery than lasts over a day and 32/64gb storage is more than enough for me. I do not see any compromise in functionality. I do wish inductive charging was possible but the feeling of a cold brushed aluminum phone in hand is worth the compromise.

          • Tim242

            Only the harcore old guard of idiots really believe that fragile aluminum is better build. The average consumer does not care about that. They cover them in plastic cases. PS. I work in a cell phone store.

          • andrew galvin

            so that is supposed to give you some kind of authority? I have a college degree and a real job so GTFO with your condescending tone. All the “normal” people i know have iphones and dont give two craps about the battery not being removable and there being no SD. Aluminum is a more premium material to make phones out of, period.

          • Tim242

            Authority? No, but I know that every aluminum iPhone I sell goes into a bulky, plastic case, usually an otter box. I know that most people couldn’t care less about aluminun. You think it’s so great? Aluminum is a very soft metal. It dents very easily. The entire front of both phones is made of Gorilla Glass 3. The S4’s rim is all high quality polycarbonite that has been mistaken as metal in many reviews. The ONE has some polycarbonate in it’s rim for antenna purposes. So, the only difference in this perceived build quality, is the back plate. They both are thin. The ONE is fragile aluminum, the S4 flexible and durable plastic, that allows for a removable battery. iPhone users may not care about SD slots, but they do care about battery life. A lot of them buy Mophie juice packs. So as I said, the only difference between the 2 phones, is the thin back plate. In closing, I also have a college degree and earn 75,000/ year selling phones.

          • MicroNix

            Which promptly get covered with a plastic case. Especially with the iPhone you can choose from over a million different cases. So if the aluminum body is so freakin fantastic, why are those phones the first to get a case that covers it? Again, the average consumer doesn’t give a rip about a aluminum body phone.

        • first paragraph, point well made

          second one you lost me. If by “engine” you mean everything except looks, it’s a wash. You get better daylight camera, removable battery, memory with sammy. Better lowlight camera, better sound/speakers, wireless radios, and arguably display with HTC. Were you making the point that HTC is style over substance? Because, as unintuitive as Sense may be, I still prefer it to the ugly, cluttered, gimmicky mess that is TouchWiz.

          • MicroNix

            Gimmicky? You mean all those innovative features that Sammy is putting into their phones that everyone talks about?

          • Not sure if sarcasm or samsung fanboy…

            If its the former, yes. those features

            If it’s the latter, read my next paragraph

            read every single Galaxy S4 review ever. Including the one from DL. They all say Samsung has gone overboard with features and that most of them, while seemingly great in theory, are poorly implemented in practice and generally useless. DL’s first paragraph from their review contains this: “Is it better than the HTC One? Are all of these new software features gimmicks that no one will really ever use? Is the overall package enough of a jump to keep Samsung relevant?”

    • hackthis02

      For many people the bigger screen is a turn off. And most people I know that have the S3 didn’t even know it had a SD card slot. The build quality of the One is leaps and bounds better then the S4 and for most users that’s what will impact them more.

      • And the first time you drop the One, all of that “design” is going to have a huge blemish/scratch on it.

        And if you go “yeah well no it wont because I’ll have it in a case” then I’ll just call you silly for saying that build quality matters if you have to put your quality-built phone in a plastic box.

        • Tim242

          I wish I could give you more than +1!

        • MicroNix

          The most sensible post in this whole thread.

      • kg215

        No for many people the bigger screen is a major plus, the sd card slot is a plus too but not a major one. And the One is leaps and bounds ahead in DESIGN, not durability or build quality.

      • Tim242

        The S4 has a bigger screen, but is a smaller device than the One. They are both made up mostly of Gorilla Glass 3. Most users couldn’t care less about the perceived build, as they smother their phones in plastic cases. PS. I work in a cell phone store.

      • lilmoe2002

        Well everyone I know who has a Galaxy (or any other device with an SD Card slot) actually buys a card AND plugs it in…

        People like buying the cheaper model and cheaply expand its storage. People always look for bargains. HTC’s One is a great bargain since it has 32GB as the base model, but the thing is, it’s VERY hard to repair if you buy it without warranty or the warranty expires. Any monkey can repair a Galaxy phone on the other hand… My late SGS2 had water damage and the Samsung dealer refused to repair it, they demanded I pay for a new PCB and screen ($200 each). Guess what, I got it repaired by a 3rd party for $50… Good luck getting the same deal if you crack or water damage your HTC One, as the guys at iFixit…

    • SD card support is the biggest thing for me.

    • Bryce Mrozinski

      Bring a charger, stop downloading porn, buy a tablet, bring another charger. HTC One Wins.

      • /s

        • Bryce Mrozinski

          Haha oh definitely sarcasm.. but I’m getting sick of the whole I’m not buying a device because it doesn’t have a removable battery or sdcard slot. Everyone should give credit where credit is due, the One is an amazing device and has the best build quality out of any Android phone I have seen.

          • kg215

            The problem isn’t the battery being removable by itself, it is not removable and SMALL. Why not put a 2500mah+ battery in there, would it have been so hard? The sd card issue is secondary to that, depending on how they price their devices. And I am tired of people like you confusing design with build quality, and thinking aluminum is stronger/more durable than plastic (it’s not).

          • Bryce Mrozinski

            The actual size of the battery hardly matters.. with normal use my One lasts me well into the night. Especially running a custom ROM and kernel, it would easily last till the next morning. You’re confused about what determines battery life..

            Now let’s talk build quality.. my S3 creeked and groaned and generally hated having its back plate taken off. A back plate that I had to replace due to the little tabs breaking off for no reason. The power button felt like it was going to fall off at any moment of use. I also had to get a full replacement phone due to my first one not seeing the battery or usb charger any more.. There’s some Sammy build quality for. Mass produced plastic.

            My one feels quality all around. The power button feels solid to press, the volume rocker is great and has some awesome knurled effect on it. The whole thing just feels quality. That is what this is all about, how the phone actually FEELS. The One is the best feeling phone to hold ever. Hands down.

      • T4rd

        So get the One and spend several hundred more dollars to make up for its shortcomings? Sounds logical..

        • Bryce Mrozinski

          I was joking. But blatant bashing of a really nice phone isn’t logical either. I realize there are some people that need certain things, like an expandable sdcard slot. That’s why there are choices. But again as I said below, give credit where credit is due. HTC built an amazing device. It’s silly not to see that.

          • T4rd

            Concurred. They both certainly have their trade-offs, as with every generation of flagship phones. If he likes to stream/download lots of porn to his phone though, then the GS4 would probably accommodate that all those HD pronz files a bit better ;-).

          • Bryce Mrozinski

            Dem GeeBees fill up fast! I did get the 64gb One to handle all my “media” lol

      • Hell I’m convinced then, I’ll stop bt Verizon on the way home tonight and just get myself this HTC you speak of.

      • Jeremy Case

        Have a charger, don’t download porn, have a tablet with its own charger and after having a Thunderbolt…. HTC never again. Plus all the Beats by Dre stuff is a turnoff.

        • Bryce Mrozinski

          Yeah the red Beats logo on the back of the One does bother me.. too many Bros asking about my phone.. “Oh you gotz Beats.. thats tight man!”…

          • PimpDaddyWiteBoy

            doubt anyone wants to talk to you.

          • Bryce Mrozinski

            Says a person with a screen name of “PimpDaddyWiteBoy”…. You spelled “white” wrong by the way… I’m sure you’re the type of person who actually wears Beats just because you want everyone around you to notice you. Oh and you talk with the speaker in public so we can all know how important you are. Go back to high school.

    • Sqube

      The removable battery matters (a) if your usage dictates that you be away from a charger for extended periods of time; or (b) if it breaks. A is situational, and B is universal suck. I’ve never gotten a gimp battery, or know anyone who’s gotten one, or know anyone who knows anyone who’s gotten one. That’s not to say it isn’t an issue. I just don’t think it’s a huge one.

      SD card support is, again, not relevant for the majority of users. I would be fascinated to find out the percent of users who have more than 32GB of anything on their phone.

      As far as screen size is concerned, some of us don’t subscribe to the bigger is better thought. The GNex is about a big a phone as I want, and the One is more appealing to me from that point of view.

      Again, raw battery size isn’t an indicator of overall efficiency when it comes to using power.

      This isn’t to say you’re wrong; I just happen to disagree with the common logic behind all of those points because of how I use my phone. I doubt I’m alone in this.

      • Tim242

        First of all, the ONE is a bigger device than the S4. That alone shoots your credibility down. Also, not everyone wants to be tethered to a wall.

        • Sqube

          … credibility? I made no attempt to come off as an expert. I really thought the One was a little smaller, or at least the same size. I’m wrong on that point, but I’ll still take the One because I just prefer it. That’s something I’ve never made any attempt to hide. I like the build materials. I am in LOVE with BoomSound. I’m intrigued (but not entirely sold) on UltraPixel.

          I’ve never liked TouchWiz, and I don’t like the SGS IV’s plastic. Are the internals amazing? Yep. Is it a great phone? Beyond a shadow of a doubt.

          Also, just because a phone has a battery that can’t be removed doesn’t mean that you have to be “tethered to a wall.” The fact that the battery can’t be removed doesn’t automatically mean it’s going to die in 12 minutes.

          I know you’re not, but you really sound like you’re white knighting for Samsung. They’re both great phones and we can just like different phones for different reasons.

          • Chris Hannan

            Any time you need to charge your phone, you are tethered to a wall. If you have a swappable battery, you can charge one battery while you use another. When one dies, swap it for the one on the charger and you never have to plug into a wall again.

      • MicroNix

        With 13MP cameras becoming the norm, storage (and lack of it) will be more and more important. Same for music. The cloud was nice, until data plans became limited. I have to switch off what playlists are sync’d to the my 32GB SD card as it is.

        • Sqube

          Well, I’m kinda hoping that UltraPixel is going to be the opening salvo in the (largely meaningless) war against MOAR PIXLZZZ. We played this game with digital cameras when they first came out, and I’m hoping that we’re going to see a little more of a focus on bigger batteries and lenses, and less focus on “our phone is 3 microns thick.”

          Eight megapixels with a bigger lens and bigger microns is probably the sweet spot, considering the current state of tech.

  • troy studnicka

    HTC YAWN!!!!

  • I personally am a huge fan of HTC. The first Android phone I had from them was the original Incredible, which at the time was an amazing device to me. I really want to see them bounce back in a huge way. I am just frustrated with Big Red not picking up this device… and who knows when they’ll get the supposed dlxplus or whatever is possibly coming. That’s what I’m waiting for… for now!

    • The Incredible was terrible. I’d know. I used that pos.

      • Bionicman

        it had its issues but i still have a soft spot for it because it introduced me to Android and helped me get hooked! it was the first phone i every got excited about.

      • kg215

        The Incredible was one of HTC’s best phones, along with the very similar Nexus One. It’s most of their other phones that have been behind the competition or just straight up garbage.

  • HTC just a bunch of tools

  • jahsoul

    I’m probably one of the only dudes that don’t care about “build quality” considering I put my device in a case right when I get it. *shrugs*

    • Spider210

      naked device is the only way ! FTW

      • The amount of people who don’t use a case = 2%

        • hackthis02

          I’d bet it’s larger then that.

          • T4rd

            Yeah, probably more like 5-10 percent =p. That’s literally about what I’ve observed when I’m out in public. I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen a naked iPhone or GS3.

        • Warwick

          I feel so special to be in that 2% 😀

          • Kevin McDole

            Me too!

          • cb2000a

            A lot of people don’t use a case. It really is not necessary if you take care of your phone.

        • Bryce Mrozinski

          I’ve never cased a device. They’re bulky and ugly. Hang on to your phone.

          • T4rd

            You’ve never seen or heard of a slim case? There’s lots of them that aren’t bulky and ugly and still provide adequate protection against falls and normal wear/tear.

          • Bryce Mrozinski

            Doesn’t change that they are ugly. I bought a device because of how it looks and performs. Cases ruin one of those. I’ve owned everything from 1st gen iPhone to my current One and have yet to drop one. Zero cases.

          • T4rd

            No, that’s what I’m saying; there are plenty that aren’t ugly, are made of premium metals/materials and that can actually enhance the look of the phone. If you’re denying that, then I’m sorry to say that you’re either extremely picky or uninformed/ignorant.

          • Bryce Mrozinski

            Let’s go with picky.. haha As an engineer I wouldn’t want someone to wrap some piece of plastic or metal around something I have designed.. I want it to be seen and used as I have made it. Style and use go hand in hand, and have been designed in a certain way for a reason.

          • T4rd

            Hah, alrighty. Well just be careful then.. I’ve read several reports that the One is pretty susceptible to scuffs, pitting and marring of the finish ;-).

          • Bryce Mrozinski

            I love aluminum wear. My OG iPhone and Inspire can attest to that. Wore beautifully. Again, personal taste.

          • T4rd

            Ugh.. you’re crazy, lol. I can’t stand any imperfections on my phone (or almost anything else I own), hah. Even if I get a scuff on my case, I rub it like crazy to get it back off =p.

          • Dain Laguna

            You mean it doesn’t change the fact that YOU think they are ugly. Stop with the generalizations. And no case i ever owned physically affected my device’s performance

          • Bryce Mrozinski

            Pretty sure I have been talking about my personal tastes and opinions the entire time? When have I generalized anything?

          • mcdonsco

            I doubt anyone drops them on purpose…I myself have just about literally thrown my phone on accident, right onto concrete / asphalt etc…would have easily knocked $150+ off resale if it hadn’t been in an oterbox

        • I don’t use a case because my phone is made of plastic and therefore – doesn’t require a plastic box to enclose it.

          (Plus you can’t use a case with a car dock)

          • raed81

            yes you can …i use UAG case for my s3 and it fits in my ibolt car dock

      • mcdonsco

        I wish I could do that, but A) I’m clumsy and B) I’m a devicaholic, no matter what phone i have, after 6 months I want something else…resale is much higher when its in new condition.

    • Rickerbilly

      Amen!

    • Mark Mann

      unless you put it in an otterbox, build quality is important even if you don’t go naked…i put my phone in a case, always have, always will…i still worry about build quality

  • T4rd

    Well… no shiat. =p

  • Tirionfive

    I sure hope this isn’t the case. I want HTC to die a quick and horrible death.

    #REZOUNDNEVARFORGET

    • T4rd

      As much as I am disappointed in HTC’s software support (esp. in the case of Verizon exclusives), I definitely don’t want them to die because competition is good. Hopefully Samsung and other OEMs will take note of the One and start emphasizing oh their hardware design more now. Front facing speakers are awesome no matter how you slice it.

      • They have plenty to catch up on. Especially the camera, and storage.

        • T4rd

          I’m confused. Are you talking about HTC or Samsung? I thought they both the One and S4 had great cameras in their own right (Samsung being a bit better in good lighting and HTC being a lot better in low light) and storage (they’re both available up to 64 GBs of internal storage – more than sufficient for most people).

        • cryosx

          at least HTC offers the 32 as the default…

          • T4rd

            Well they kinda have to since they don’t have any expandable storage options. You can get a 32 GB SD card for like $20 and then have 48 GBs of storage.

      • Can you imagine if Samsung would be the only builder of Android phones? iPhone and Galaxy as the only feasible options? I think I’d go back to BB

        • kg215

          Lol blackberry is one of the few companies worse than Apple. I don’t want a world with only 1 android manufacturer either but Samsung still wipes the floor with Apple/Blackberry in any scenario.

    • I’m sure this will come off sounding like a GNex fanboy, but what the hell were you doing wrong with the Rezound? I’ve owned mine since December ’11 and it’s been great. It’s a workhorse

      • Tirionfive

        Lets see:

        -Broken promise of ICS within the 1st quarter, which didn’t hit till the 3rd

        -screen leakage (especially from LED lights at bottom)

        -terrible battery life (Better than the Gnex, but not worth a mention)

        -Bad sound equalizer, especially over headphones

        -screen brightness was very low, and not readable in sunlight

        -lack of any decent developer support, due to lack of RIL drivers/support

        -thick and heavy

        -terrible radios (Gnex is also bad in this area)

        – No forseeable jellybean support.

        – Camera low light performance was garbage

        + Screen resolution, tighter pixel density

        + SD Card slot and removable battery

        With the Gnex:

        – Battery life is bad

        – Radios

        – Camera, Decent in well lit areas, bad in lower light, (Bonus: zero shutter lag)

        -/+ No SD Card, but 32GB on VZW

        Other than those outstanding drawbacks, the Gnex beats the Rezound in every way. Software, Hardware, Etc. One of the best designs in a phone is the Gnex. Hands down.

        HTC can jump in a lake, they could have done so much better with the rezound.

        • T4rd

          Yup, pretty much what I’ve observed on my Wife’s Rezound except for the bad radios. Her Rezound beat the hell out of my old Gnex in reception and seems just slightly better than my Note 2.

          • Tirionfive

            Really? I always thought the Rezound had the crappiest radios, stability wise. Try putting hers in 3G only mode, and just let her use it.

            When I did it to mine, It would just bootloop at random times. Or just a straight up radio crash and it’d reinitialize, but to do so it would have to show the Verizon 4G splash logo.