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LG Optimus G Review [AT&T]

When LG first announced the Optimus G, our jaws about hit the floor because of the specs. But as it inched closer to launch, most of us realized that this phone wouldn’t launch on all carriers in a way that we have seen from Samsung and their Galaxy S3, leaving us wondering if we should fully care or not. (This phone, is headed to AT&T and Sprint here in the U.S. (Verizon and T-Mobile customers will be left out of the party.) Thankfully, we have also all come to the realization that the next Nexus phone (possibly dubbed the Nexus 4) will be based off of the Optimus G, so whether or not this is coming to your carrier of choice, you should care about it. With that said, let’s talk about this device in a little more detail. 

The Good:

  • Specs:  At this point in the smartphone game, there is no disputing that the Optimus G is the king of specs. With it’s 1.5GHz quad-core Snapdragon S4 Pro processor, 4.7″ HD IPS+ display, 2GB RAM, 16GB internal storage (32GB in the Sprint version), microSD slot for expandable storage (no SD slot in the Sprint version), 8MP camera (13MP in the Sprint version), 1.3MP front camera, 2100mAh battery, NFC chip, and 4G LTE, there are few phones that even come close to matching up to it.
  • Display:  The 4.7″ HD IPS+ display on the Optimus G is stunning. The whites are actually white, brightness levels are very good, the viewing angles are exceptional, and colors pop without looking fake, all thanks to the LCD tech used. LG used “Zerogap Touch,” which eliminates the gap between the LCD and front glass, so that the display looks incredible and also seems extra responsive to touch. With close to 318ppi and a non-PenTile layout, there are few things, if any, wrong with the display on this phone. And as always, here are some macro shots so that you can see the pixel arrangement.

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  • Performance:  Thanks to the quad-core Snapdragon S4 Pro processor and 2GB of RAM, the performance on the Optimus G is second to none. You can zip between apps, home screens, or others tasks in an instant. The camera is ultra fast and gaming has zero stuttering while allowing for max frames per second. It’s the first Snapdragon quad-core phone on the market, so if you want the most powerful phone available today, this is your choice. The only complaint I have can probably be blamed on the software, and that’s a launcher and home screen refresh and lag while leaving some applications. At times, when you press home, there is a launcher refresh that takes a second or two and is a bit disappointing, since we know this phone has the power to cruise through any task.
  • LG’s New Custom UI:  Rarely do I praise an OEM for creating a custom skin that is slapped over the top of stock Android, but in this instance, I must show some love. LG and their new custom UI have given me almost everything that I can ask for. Their home screen launcher is like a 3rd party launcher that I would install on my phone anyway. It gives you options for custom transitions between home screens, the ability to customize icons, let’s you tweak the app drawer to your liking (for the most part), and is unbelievably fluid. There are no stutters here, folks. Be sure to see the software tour down below to see some of what I’m talking about.
  • QSlide, QuickMemo, and Live Zooming: LG included a handful of new UI features that they hope will help this device, along with others going forward, stand out from the crowded Android world. The three that I found myself using the most were QuickMemo, QSlide, and Live Zooming, all of which I have demoed for you below.

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  • Styling:  When initially writing up my pros and cons for this review, I had style down in the cons, but as I’ve used the phone more and more, I actually do love the look. Sure, at first glance it appears to be a giant black rectangle, but the subtle highlights and accents, perfectly rounded edges, variations of textures, and deep black front, make this a beautiful phone to look at. To the naked eye or distant onlooker, it probably won’t look like much. However, once you hold it in your hand and slowly spin it under a light, you get shimmering lights, beautiful reflections, and the realization that this device was masterfully crafted.
  • Battery Life:  LG claims to have used a new high-density battery technology to make for longer battery cycles. While I haven’t seen anything extraordinary, I have seen pretty decent battery life for a phone with a quad-core processor and massive display. In the couple of screenshots below, you can see there were times when I hammered on the device while pushing through extra long periods of Granny Smith, and others where I backed off for normal use. In one instance, I got through 10 hours and had 15% left – the other was almost at 11 hours with 40% battery remaining. Again, I wouldn’t call this the longest lasting battery on the planet, but at 2100mAh, it certainly appears to be able to get the job done.

  • Back Design:  LG used a new Crystal Reflection technology to design one of the coolest back plates we have ever seen. It’s a subtle design, that can really only be seen while looking directly at it or under certain lighting, but it’s really neat. There appears to be some flexibility with it as well, since the Sprint and AT&T versions have different back patterns. The AT&T Optimus G pattern is almost like a field of diamonds and pyramids under a glass sheet. You’ll see it below, in quite the sad photo of that glass covering.
  • Camera:  I’ve put the camera on the Optimus G in the “Good” category, but it should probably sit somewhere in the middle between good and not-so-good. It’s a decent shooter, but I haven’t found it to be anywhere near the shooter on the Galaxy S3 – at least out of the box. It’s one of those cameras that has potential to be great, but it’ll take some manual tweaking before it’ll get there. Most of the shots I took on Auto all let in far too much light and washed most of my pictures out. The best example is the dual-shot picture of the camera below where I adjust ISO. This seems to be another case of bad software hurting what should be a decent camera.

  • AT&T LTE:  Now that AT&T has lit up their LTE network here in Portland and a bunch of other major cities, it’s like the early days of Verizon’s LTE network – speeds are out of this world fast. It also seems like AT&T turned on LTE when they had full cities covered, rather than just parts of cities. So far, I’m enjoying AT&T’s new network more than anyone’s, and the Optimus G is taking full advantage of it.
  • Reception/Call Quality:  As with most smartphones these days, I had no issues with call quality and reception. Thanks to AT&T’s mostly-reliable network and LG’s high-end hardware, I never ran into an issue where I couldn’t make a call or couldn’t hear the person in perfect clarity on the other end.

The Not-so-Good:

  • Glass Back Plate:  Ugh. That’s all I can say about the glass piece that covers the back of the Optimus G. As you can see from the image below, I managed to crack it from top to bottom. The really unfortunate thing here, is that I don’t know how I managed to do this. I haven’t dropped the phone, so it either came from me squeezing it too hard, setting it down on my desk, or pulling it in and out of a pocket. I seriously do not know. My situation may be a super limited scenario, but I now understand what iPhone 4 owners went through with the glass plates on the backs of their devices.

  • Size:  If you are going to make a phone a giant rectangular box, you probably shouldn’t make it this big. While the weight of the device is on point, I can’t help but admit that it doesn’t feel as good in hand as the Galaxy S3 or One X. Both of those seem to fit perfectly with the contours of your hand, while the boxy feel of the Optimus G seems to want to fight them at times. Don’t get me wrong, this device doesn’t feel awful when holding it, but there are devices that feel better.
  • No Notification LED:  LG decided not to use a traditional notification LED light on the front panel of the device. Personally, I’m sad that they made this move, as a notification light is something I count on to show me all sorts of incoming messages or items that need to be addressed. Instead of an LED light on the front, they put a light that blinks sporadically around the Power switch on the side of the device. This thing seems to have a mind of its own and rarely shows me notifications when I expect that it should be. It looks neat while you are charging your phone, but that’s about all it’s good for.

  • Some Software Lag:  As I mentioned in the software tour below, there is a bit of software lag at times. What I mean is that when pressing “Home” or leaving an application to head back to your home screen, there is a refresh that takes place that runs a couple of seconds. For a phone that has 2GB of RAM and a quad-core processor, this should never happen. I’m sure it can be fixed in a software update, so let’s hope that happens with Jelly Bean in December or early next year.
  • Parts of the Custom UI:  Most of LG’s custom skin isn’t bad, in fact, I actually like a lot of what they are doing these days. It feels much more polished, makes a lot of sense to use, and introduces some really handy features like QSlide. It’s not all pretty, though. App organization in the app drawer is frustrating at times and constantly requires you to sort alphabetically to find anything. The settings menu on the AT&T version also takes a massive turn away from traditional Android, so it’s a bit confusing to someone like me that changes settings on phones many times throughout the day.
  • Keyboard:  The stock LG keyboard is some form of Swype or FlexT9 that is painful to use. You can swipe between letters to type quickly, and it will even do its best to auto-correct you. Unfortunately, the auto-correct is way too aggressive and more of a pain than it is helpful. Thankfully, you can switch to the stock Android keyboard through Settings. And of course, since this is Android, you can download one from the app store that’s probably better.

  • Only Ice Cream Sandwich:  The device will come running Ice Cream Sandwich out of the box and will be updated to Jelly Bean at a later date. LG has said that the international version of the Optimus G will see Jelly Bean in December, however, we do not know how long before the AT&T and Sprint versions see it. LG has a poor track record of updating phones, so it could be a while. With this being their flagship of 2012, maybe it’ll happen much sooner than later.
  • Bloatware:  There are roughly 17 bloatware apps, 6 of which are AT&T branded garbage apps that no one uses.

Gallery:

Hardware Tour:

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Software Tour:

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The Verdict:

The LG Optimus G on AT&T is a fabulous device. The display is one of the best displays you will find on a smartphone, the hardware specs are the best in the business, battery life is above average, it takes advantage of AT&T’s ultra-fast LTE network, and the UI experience, while custom, doesn’t suck. I’m impressed, to say the least.

My “Not-so-Goods” are mostly me nitpicking little things here or there, but nothing really stands out as something for me to not recommend that you check this phone out. The one concern I have now, is with the back glass plate. Mine cracked and I can’t even recall an event that would have caused such damage on any other phone. Glass on the back of a phone is never a good idea in my opinion, so if this is your next phone, be careful or buy a case immediately.

LG, you did a great job at making a high-end phone and you deserve praise for it.

  • J.Rupinski

    I’ve had my Optimus G less than a week and a huge crack in the back glass just like the one in the review just appeared out of nowhere today. The phone has not been dropped or punished in any way shape or form. This is obviously a design defect.

  • JWellington

    That software lag you speak of is probably Garbage Collection. I believe that was improved in Jelly Bean, so those issues should be dissipated once that joins gets that update.

  • xnay

    It’s quite interesting about the screen’s “exceptional viewing angles” because the Engadget review says quite contrary.

    Also you don’t agree on the camera. While every reviewer is right to have his own opinion, one of you is wrong ;).

  • GBravo2005

    Hmmm I know this is a review for the AT&T version, but I am wondering if I should replace my EVO 3D with this or the Galaxy Note 2….. So many choices it is tough. Although I truly wish we were getting the Padfone 2…..

  • fauxshizzl

    Amazing they can release a phone with specs like that, and I STILL have absolutely zero interest in it what so ever. Screw LG.

  • cizzlen

    Despite all the negative, this phone looks amazing software and hardware wise. If only the back plate wasn’t glass and the notification led worked, LG would have my money (if it ever came to Verizon that is)

  • Diablo81588

    “Whites are actually white”
    When are blacks going to be actually black? Thats WAY more important..

  • Robert Jakiel

    Great review. From what I gather aside from the backplate debacle the handset is a beast and will allow you to control small countries from its’ beautiful 4.7″ screen. Am I close?

  • Tony

    Does the LG messaging app support threaded group texting? It seems like the only overlay that supports this feature is Motorola. GoSMS, Handcent, and VZW messaging apps are too buggy and 3rd party programs like Whatsapp are not an option. Does this phone support it out of the box?

  • Butters619

    They shouldn’t have gone with the 1280×768 display. That extra width just makes the phone feel too wide when compared to its competitors

  • Ethan

    This is an awfully impressive phone, but that glass back cover…. Man, I would be so nervous if I had this thing. I’m still on VZW with my GS3, and although Verizon is, well, Verizon, I’m actually OK with it not coming to the network. I’ll grab the best Nexus (Maybe the Galaxy Nexus, if what we’ve seen is true) when I switch carriers. Good review, though, Kellex! Always look forward to your in-depth analysis.

    • JoshGroff

      To be honest, I’m scared enough with the screen, having a second glass plate to worry about would make me completely paranoid, and it would probably never leave an Otterbox.

  • Knlegend1

    Good review…interesting this is the same company that made the intuition lol. Yeah I’m bitter.

  • JustTrollin69

    Funny how the background in the gmail icon macro shot looks strikingly similar to the backing of the LG Nexus 4.

  • descendency

    Serious question: How does the back crack so easily when the glass on the front hasn’t?

    I don’t understand how one side of the glass is so easy to crack and the other practically requires a hammer to break.

  • Dave

    Yikes, that back. Anyways, the hardware overall is getting my excited for the upcoming Nexus. The Optimus seems like a nice phone overall. Good review.

  • ConCal

    What? Glass on the back? That’s a deal breaker.

  • albert

    I hated the home refresh lag on my old moto phones. My gnex does not have it. This super duper top spec phone should not have it out of the box. Poor software is not an excuse. Lg has put the best of the best of……the best in this phone, just to slack on the software that takes advantage of it……that just proves, lg nexus….maaaybe. lg w/o pure aosp= epic fail!

  • DainLaguna

    with all of apples litigating, i wonder why they didnt come after lg for their keyboard…its a dead ringer for the ios keyboard. I first noticed it when i was setting up email on a customers account at my job…he was on vzw…i want to say it was the lucid? even the keyboard clicks were very ios like.

    anywho, as far as this device goes, it seems like the biggest issues are the software: stock android fixes that. (though i’ll admit i’m totally in love with the idea of a sony nexus. I love stock android, but stock android on a sony styled device would be epic)

    its unfortunate about the camera though…just goes to show you more mp doesnt necessarily mean better quality…despite the fact that it still takes better pics than the gnex. the difference the iso tweaks made are impressive, but dieter from the verge sums up my feelings nicely when he reviewed both the at&t and sprint versions of the the optimus g:

    ‘At the end of the day, though, a smartphone camera should make you feel like it’s overachieved relative to the amount of effort you put into composing your shot, not the other way around.’

  • ChuckDz3

    Just curious why does AT&T’s LTE network not suck the life out of batteries like Verizon’s? Or are you getting good battery life because of the software tweaks and LG’s ”high density battery technology”?

    • Diablo81588

      It has nothing to do with AT&T. Efficient processors and integrated LTE are the key.

      • slmhofy

        Although I will agree that the new integrated LTE radios are helping battery life, my g/fs Skyrocket will disagree with your AT&T statement. It easily gets the same or better battery life than my Galaxy Nexus and I have my LTE turned off all the time. If it’s on, say good bye to my battery.

        j973 either learned me something or made me remember it. Verizon having to have the CDMA radio on at the same time as the LTE is what kills the batteries on their network.

        • Diablo81588

          Really not sure what you’re getting at. You can’t compare the battery life of two phones when one has a HD screen and the other has a super low resolution 800×480. The processor in the nexus has drive more pixels, which in turn reduces battery life significantly.

          My friends’s girlfriend also has a skyrocket and when she drives into a LTE area, battery life drops like a rock as well. The skyrocket, as far as I know, doesn’t have integrated LTE either, and since LTE is a data only network at the moment, having an external radio at all sucks battery. The only advantage AT&T has over Verizon with regard to LTE is the fact that since they are GSM, hand offs between 3g and 4g are seamless and don’t require eHRPD. Battery life will only be affected if you’re in a fringe 4g area and hand offs are common.

    • albert

      Its the s4 pro bro….very efficient when it comes to power consumption

      • http://twitter.com/dark_funk dark_funk

        Same reason the Droid Inc 4G LTE and SIII on Verizon have pretty decent battery life, and I expect stellar battery life from the RAZR HD MAXX. The 28nm process + integrated LTE modem on the S4 chips are a huge improvement over the 45nm process + external modems required for previous processors like the RAZR and Galaxy Nexus.

    • j973

      Reasons why lte on verizon drain battery, Verizons old school CDMA network is one reason and another reason is you have two radios running all the time your lte radio and your cdma radio thats how you can make voice calls and have data . But drains battery significantly , Personally verizon has best network but the programming and authentication of cdma network ruins the phones , Im switching back to gsm network regardless of less coverage just want pure google phone not verizons crap that they still control and claim it to be nexus . At&T will be better in time do to better backhaul as well as tmobile verizons 3g is garbage as well as sprint . At&t is faster on LTE becuase they are using fiber and verizon is using copper in the cabinets i know this because my brother does telecom install . At&T might not have the big coverage but there doing things the right way. Verizon will be good when they get volte

      • yarrellray

        Leaving Verizon and it’s overrated battery draining LTE network is the BEST THING for everyone to do. Plus all the handsets on it’s network all operate different and that shows outright inconsistency. Poor Dbm/asu as well as dreadful reception/signal strength are common place on Verizon. People on Verizon remind me of Apple iphone users misguided and uninformed people who think paying more proves it’s better than any other network. Tmobile pimp slaps Verizon silly in major big cities and Tmobile and it’s GSM HSPA PLUS 42MPS network simply blows Verizon out of the water. It simply works every day 24hrs a day without fail. Plus Tmobile will have it’s LTE ADVANCED 10 NETWORK working sometime in September 2013. It’s entire network will be back hauled to it’s current HSPA PLUS 42MPS network which means one hell of a consistant network with excellent battery life.

        • Abgar Musayelyan

          i switched to t-mo for 2 months. after about the 4000th dropped call in two months, i was ready to blow my head off. i doubt at&t is as bad but my experiance in los angeles with t-mo was god awful.

          • Diablo81588

            You get what you pay for. Don’t listen to this cheap fool and his bargain bin network. Tmobile is only decent in major cities. Travel slightly out of town and its useless.

          • LionStone

            Hehe yep, and he never gives us a screenshot of his pimpslappin’ network speeds…its hard to be jealous.

  • Anthony Anobile

    Where can a fella pick up that rainbow leave wallpaper?

  • Stimpy

    This is a bit illiterate. Extra commas in weird places, it’s instead of its, based off instead of based on. Etc.

  • Anthony Anobile

    Hey where can I get that rainbow leaves wallpaper?

  • http://www.facebook.com/andrew.t.roach.90 Andrew T Roach

    If a tester managed to crack the screen in a short amount of time like that; you can count me out. Glass back is attractive but honestly I think that the lesson shouldve been learned after the iPhone 4. Apple even got the message for heavens sake.

  • UrDoGG

    Hate to be negative, but I wouldn’t own it.

  • C-Law

    Thanks for the review! Too many negatives now for me to consider this over the new nexus or note2

    • http://www.facebook.com/gregyoung135 Gregory Young

      I think the only difference between this and the new Nexus is stock android. The glass back is on the Nexus as well, which means the only real cons are software which can easily be fixed with a different launcher, camera app, etc. If the glass back is your issue, you might want to go with the Note2.

  • ~dArK.AnGeL

    WAITING FOR THE MOTOROLA NEXUS 5 MAXX HD

  • abhele

    to me i think this is the Hyundai genesis of phones lol , cheaply made , but got the horsepower when needed

  • http://riteshtripathy.wordpress.com/ Ritesh Tripathy

    This indeed turned out to be a nice device.
    But..
    The PadFone 2 will be unveiled in a few hours and could very well steal the thunder from the Optimus G. Almost identical specs but expected to have better design, build quality and a reportedly bloody good camera.

    I have a month to make a decision… between the PadFone 2 and (one of?) the new Nexus.

  • dick johnson

    Pass…enough said

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=535178558 Nathan Massouda

    “Thanks to AT&T’s mostly-reliable network”
    That’s not something you hear every day…

  • Rufus

    Too bad the LED notification light doesn’t work so well. That’s kind of a deal breaker for me. Still holding off for the LG Nexus

    • paul_cus

      Yeah, really strange move to kill the traditional LED notification light and randomly put it within the power key. What the hell is that? I think LG was just trying too hard to be different right there.

  • http://www.facebook.com/wgangers Will Angers

    Great review. It’s unfortunate that this beast dosnt have a LED notification light but one thing can make or break this phone: is the bootloader unlocked? I have a GNex and I might go for it if the Nexus 4 is disapointing (no LTE, 16gb storage) but I will never purchase a locked phone. I need AOSP roms, kernels and mods to be happy

    • http://www.facebook.com/wgangers Will Angers

      I’d like to know the screen on time too!

  • BSweetness

    “At this point in the smartphone game, there is no disputing that the Optimus G is the king of specs.”

    The Galaxy Note 2, with specs that match or exceed those found in the Optimus G, would like to have a word with you.

    • http://www.facebook.com/wgangers Will Angers

      Note 2 has quad core A9 processor, outdated tech compared to the Snapdragon S4

      • Spoken Word™

        Outdated according to you. Performance wise it’s at the top f the smartphone world. Will the S4 take it down a notch? Time will tell.

        • Paul

          We’ve already had benchmarks of the S4pro. It’s definitely faster.

        • http://riteshtripathy.wordpress.com/ Ritesh Tripathy

          No, outdated according to technical FACTS. Are you actually suggesting that the slightly higher clocked A9 Exynos 4412 could match the A15-class S4 Pro? You need to read up on mobile SoC tech..

          • descendency

            The S4 Pro is not “A15 class”. I realize you probably realize that this isn’t an A15 based architecture, but it’s fairly far behind the projected A15 based SoCs. It’s about 2/3s of the way between the A9 and A15 (closer to the A15).

          • http://riteshtripathy.wordpress.com/ Ritesh Tripathy

            I fully realize that and you’re right to an extent. I work in chip design, so I know how exactly the Krait core matches up the the in-development A15 based chips. Krait (a bit like the A6) is a heavily modified A9 architecture. Its not exactly A15 class, but pretty close on many areas. Integer and FP are mostly where the A15 is clearly ahead, but to that detail, its unfair to judge just based on numbers. In practical use, Krait cores are almost up there with A15 (of which we still don’t have any real-world performance numbers).

        • Diablo81588

          It also doesn’t have integrated LTE like the s4 pro. The pro is definitely faster than the exynos.

      • BSweetness

        I won’t disagree that the Snapdragon S4 Pro will outperform the quad-core Exynos, but the review says “king of specs” not “king of performance.” From a specs point of view – and let’s face it, right or wrong, when talking about specs most people are talking about what’s written down, the Note 2 is in the same league. Is it outclassed in certain categories? Absolutely. But the Optimus G is also outclassed in certain categories by the Note 2.

        • Diablo81588

          Please enlighten us how the G is outclassed, other than battery size?

          • BSweetness

            Removable battery, storage options (internal memory and a SD card slot on all models), screen size (this is important to some, not to others), and possibly the camera (which, by the way, why wasn’t camera performance mentioned in the review?) all come to mind.

            I’m not saying the Note 2 is the superior device, only that the specs on the Optimus G really aren’t all that far ahead of other devices out there.

          • al

            I’d say that the note 2 is the superior device. Yes the g has the s4 pro…..newer tech……but the lg has laggy software and the note 2 does not. At least in seems like a hundred reviews no one has mentioned it. Wait till the a15 quad Exynos will be on par or better than the s4 pro. (I know, I know there is always something better down the road) I’m just not impressed the the lg………mostly, its just lag……lag is what was androids biggest complaint…. thus project butter…..oh wait jelly bean has been out for 4 months and this lg still has ICS……vs the note 2’s jelly bean

    • Diablo81588

      How does the note 2 specs exceed this in any way? Screen size doesn’t count because not everyone wants a phablet.

      • BSweetness

        Screen size may not be important to you, but it is to some people, so it definitely does count (whether one counts it as a pro or a con is entirely dependent on what they want). The Note 2 has a larger – and removable – battery, there are more choices for internal memory, and all versions have a SD card slot. Beyond that, the Note 2 matches up fairly well. I’m not saying it’s the superior device, only that the specs of the Optimus G aren’t mind blowing compared to an already existing device. Depending on what a person is looking for, it could be argued that either is superior.

        • Diablo81588

          Fair enough.

        • Larizard

          I don’t think the bigger the screen size is necessarily “better” though. For say, the amount of RAM, of course 2 GB > 1 GB. But for screen size, 5″ is not necessarily better than 4.65″, because it really comes down to preferences.

          On the battery, though, I totally agree with you.

          • BSweetness

            Agreed. That’s why I said screen size could be a pro or a con depending on what a person is looking for. Either way, it’s something that should definitely be considered.

          • Paul

            Though battery life specs will be more relevant than the battery size. The S4pro is a more efficient processor and I’d assume the Optimus G’s screen takes up less power as well.

    • Josh Nichols

      Yes, along with its inferior screen as well as 32nm SoC that’s based on A9.

      • Diablo81588

        The note 2 screen is not pentile, so not necessarily an inferior screen.

        • http://www.hypable.com/ Joshua Nealey

          It’s 5” though, which the majority agree is too large. 4.65/4.7” is good, it fits in pockets and large hands, I’m really not trying to generalize, but I have large hands and 5” is just too much. I know it’s all personal preference, but there’s a line to be crossed and 5” crosses it.

          • Diablo81588

            Its 5.5 inch, and I agree about the size, but personal preference doesn’t make the display inferior.

          • http://www.hypable.com/ Joshua Nealey

            Fixed.

          • al

            This thing is projected to sell upwards of 20+ million device’s……so I think you are wrong about the “majority” part.

          • http://www.hypable.com/ Joshua Nealey

            You honestly believe a 5.5” phone will outsell the SGSIII? I’ll await the results before I make my judgement. Trust me, I have no problem being wrong, but I know that 4.7” is pushing it for the majority of people I know and they’re enthusiasts. 5.5” is almost comical.

          • BSweetness

            The original Note sold over 10 million devices worldwide, and that was with it launching on a limited number of carriers and being a new device. The Note 2 will be launching on many more carriers, it has the success of the first building anticipation, and it will have a larger advertising campaign. The Galaxy S3 hit the 20 million mark a month or two ago, so it’s well past that now. I wouldn’t expect the Note 2 to outsell the S3, but 20+ million in total sales for the Note 2 by the time it’s phased out is entirely possible and expected by Samsung.

          • al

            What he said ^^

  • http://www.youtube.com/kimirPORTALS kimir

    What was the screen on time? That is the most important for me…

    • Diablo81588

      Agreed. Battery life shots are worthless without screen on time.

    • yarrellray

      Talk about glamour and glitz this thing is knock off of my current Galaxy S3. Lg should’ve spent more time on jellybean instead of all the unnecessary software features of the device. This alone is reason why buying Lg just won’t happen until they learn up to date operating systems mean the world. No handsets should be coming to market now I’m Oct/Nov with ice cream sandwich. Great try Lg but still a ” NO GO”

    • IgotGAME

      I agree 100%. Why are battery shots always shown without “Screen On Time”? It’s pointless.

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  • Mrhug3

    I sometimes question my loyalty to Moto and Verizon… THIS is one of those times.

  • Paul

    So the back design is a positive thing even though its material easily led to a large crack in the back?

    • Diablo81588

      He was referring to the pattern in the good section.

      • Paul

        Yes, but the point is he liked the look that it had which requires it to be made with glass, which cracked without even being dropped.

  • Benjamin Sicard

    The glass back-plate is a deal breaker. Most of the other stuff is either minor or resolved with new software. The only way to fix the glass is to not buy the phone.

    • teleclimber

      I do not understand why everybody is so hung up on the backplate. If there is one part of the phone I don’t care about it’s what the back is made of. This thing would be going in a case on day 1 and it won’t come out until I’m taking pictures of it to sell on cl.

      • Emilio Fahr

        I really just can’t do cases. How do you look at your beautiful device?

        • mustbepbs

          I don’t consider tech “beautiful”. I consider my devices “beautiful” when they don’t have scratches or cracks on them because I protected my $600+ investment with a $15 case and $5 screen protector.

          • http://www.hypable.com/ Joshua Nealey

            I use a screen protector on my Gnex, but no case. Too nice to hold/use without a case. Never dropped it, not worried.

        • teleclimber

          “How do you look at your beautiful device?”

          I look at the screen not the back.

      • Paul

        Cases are like car bras. Yeah it keeps it from getting scratched, but stands out and looks uglier than a few barely noticeable scratches.

      • Beezey

        i usually agree, like with the flimsy plastic backs on samsungs…. but not glass. a case will help… but i cant stoop to ifruit level by paying $200 to lock myself into a device i use all day that is protected by glass for 2 years.

      • ERIC REED

        I’m with you. The ones on here claiming they don’t use a case will eventually ding their phones. Then put a case on it to hide the ugly nicks on it. I’ve done it plenty of times. My case comes off at home only these days!!

      • C-Law

        The look isn’t the problem, the fact that Keller snapped it in half without doing anything is

        • teleclimber

          I agree that’s weird, and possibly alarming if it breaks that easily.

          I heard a lot of gripes about the back in other reviews or in the nexus leaks where there was no cracking. Some people, it seems, don’t like the look of it and make that a reason not to buy the phone. That’s more what I was referring to.

        • michael arazan

          The first phone that’ll need front and back glass protection. Spigen SPG is going to have to make 2 glass covers for this phone.

      • Butters619

        1. I don’t use cases.
        2. This broke from normal use.

    • http://www.facebook.com/metalmatze1234 Along Came Morgi

      think its more of an issue with the AT&T version, since in some pictures or videos you can cleary see that the backplate somehow bends a little, or at least looks like it would. rly strange.

    • http://www.facebook.com/shutterbird13 Katrina Passick Lumsden

      The crack confuses me since these phones are made out of Corning Gorilla Glass 2.

  • Mrhug3

    I sometimes question my loyalty to Moto and Verizon…. THIS is one of those times.

    • Calvin Williams

      I would definitely wait until christmas to see all the other s4 pro phones. Galaxy Nexus 2 should get it right this year

    • kixofmyg0t

      Wait til you see the review of the RAZR HD then.

    • Booyah

      Unlimited data. That’s the extent of my loyalty.

  • Jeffrey Garcia

    I’m debating between this or the new One X+ coming out soon. Any suggestions?

    • vitriolix

      I think I’ll stick with the one that doesn’t shatter for no reason

    • LionStone

      If I was on At&t I’d definitely get the OX+…on form factor and better camera/vid. would win me over the LG, even though it looks like a nice phone too.

  • http://www.youtube.com/kimirPORTALS kimir

    It sounds like LG made a step in the right direction for once, but it seems like it just wasn’t a large enough step.

    • Rufus

      The best processor and GPU you can get in the mobile market – MicroSD, above average battery life… looks to be good build quality – what wasn’t so large about this step?

      • http://www.youtube.com/kimirPORTALS kimir

        Maybe it was the ending of the article that left a sour taste in my mouth. Anyway, I’d still heavily consider the Galaxy S III over this. LG hardware just tends to be sketchy.

    • casey

      Im buying it. Done like that. How many phones have jb ? Not many at all. 4.2 wont be on any other phone till late summer. You complain about plastic backs now you complain about glass backs. The screen is what I go for. Way better then my sg3 for sure.

  • http://brgulker.wordpress.com/ brgulker

    The battery is non removable correct?

    • http://www.droid-life.com Kellex B

      Correct.

  • brad

    Sounds like you are being too nice…the NOT SO GOOD doesn’t sound appealing at all.

    • http://www.droid-life.com Kellex B

      Really not a lot of major things to worry about. LG did a really nice job with this phone.

      • atari37

        You didn’t bash it enough to validate the hate for the LG Nexus. I think a lot of people on here were waiting for it to fail.

      • http://www.hypable.com/ Joshua Nealey

        Minus the back cracking without dropping it? =x

      • vitriolix

        You shattered it without even realizing it. Sounds like a deal breaker