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German Court: Motorola’s Implementation Of Slide-to-Unlock Found To Infringe On Existing Apple Patents

Today, Apple has won an important injunction in the German court system against Motorola, that in the future, could prohibit the large manufacturer from selling devices that incorporate the slide-to-unlock feature. Apple’s patent EP1964022 was in question during the hearing against Motorola - ”unlocking a device by performing gestures on an unlock image.” It is being reported that Motorola will immediately file an appeal.

If Motorola cannot show that they are in fact, not infringing on any of Apple’s patents, they may be forced to change their lockscreen’s interface in the country of Germany.

Via: FOSS Patents

Cheers Jeff!

  • Anonymous

    … so it is time to change. i always recommended the iphone for older people (like my parents) and android for younger ones … now i will stop to recommend the iphone for anybody. FU apple.

  • Manuel Olague

    Hey, hey Apple! F*CK YOU!

  • Seannyboy39

     Frapple= Hey not fair! I created the loaf of bread first.  Dandroid= NO! My loaf of bread has nuts in it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bobby-Wright/100000797708370 Bobby Wright

    Circle unlock on Android 3.X and 4.X works just fine. Let Apple have slide to unlock, its boring just like their phone. 

  • Mustagme

    I never thought I would see the say iPhone users would out argue Android nerds. I am proud! Sorry sheep, you lose.

  • http://www.facebook.com/RECK5inCe88 Carlos Morales

    you know droid life i really wish your notifications were as goodas androids lol

  • Anonymous

    This.

    Nearly every company with an unlock feature on their phone is probably in violation of Apple’s patent. This includes previous and current versions of Android, Windows Phone 7, webOS, and perhaps newer Blackberry versions as well.The question should not be whether or not a company is infringing, because I find that it’s very hard to argue that way. The evidence of infringement is obvious.

    The issue is that *Apple’s patent should be invalid!* That’s what every mobile OS and hardware provider should be suing or countersuing about right now.

    Until the patent is invalidated, this sort of thing just gets worse.

  • Kindroid

    I hate slide to unlock.   A simple on button would be so much cleaner and modern.  Thank you for this one Apple.   

  • Anonymous

    F Apple and their patent war

  • Anonymous

    Germany….. -.-’

  • Benjamin Battat

    Hopefully Apple doesn’t win this! They are the holders of the legendary patent “The method of inserting a specifically designated KEY into a predetermined HOLE and the gesture of TURNING to OPEN or START a specific action” Then we all will be locked out of our houses and our cars wont start! OH PLEASE GERMAN COURT HAVE MERCY ON US

  • Anonymous

    Maybe if Motorola went ahead and updated their phones to ICS, they wouldn’t have to worry about such frivolous suits. On another note, this Swype for nexus is amazing

  • http://www.facebook.com/RECK5inCe88 Carlos Morales

    I love the people defending apple on an android website. what is it not enough innovation on macworld that you come to check on the android news? i feel you. why dont you just get yourself a G-Nex like The Woz did. 

    • Stating El Obvious

      I love the sheep who say things like they can’t illegally download music and play Flash on their browsers as some kind of one up on Apple.  Stupid sheep are stupid.

      • http://www.facebook.com/RECK5inCe88 Carlos Morales

        guess some people prefer SOPA and PIPA’s lockdown the internet proposal that wasnt passed over absolute freedom to upload download or share content with friends. my bad maybe you should move to china. i heard those sweat shops do real well for your type. just dont jump off the roof they installed nets.

        • Stating El Obvious

          Clearly you have no idea what SOPA and PIPA was about, sheep.  It wasn’t about “we should be allowed to illegally download music”…while you’re sitting at home unemployed or on the Occupy Wall Street line, why don’t you do some reading?

          • http://www.facebook.com/RECK5inCe88 Carlos Morales

            thats cool… anything else troll? 

          • Stating El Obvious

            No we’re done.  :)

  • King

    Someone suggest another logical way to unlock a touchscreen phone. “Shake to unlock?” “Tap to unlock?” Regardless of how you twist it, you’re gonna make a sliding motion to unlock any touchscreen device. And unfortunately for Motorola theirs, I must admit, is similar in the direction that you slide to Apple’s. Apple are still fags for this though no doubt.

  • http://twitter.com/strifejester Justin Ellenbecker

    This is what is wrong with patents this should not be patentable.  I mean that’s like someone patenting turning a door knob.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=10602828 Mike Hilal

    I find it funny that apple can get an injunction for a non-specific patent infringement, and motorola is not allowed to leverage their chip patent against apple. If apple isnt careful, samsung and moto are going to stop licensing out their technology and they’ll be SOL. 

    • Stating El Obvious

      Yes, I’m sure that Samsung will stop licensing out its technology to a company that makes them millions upon millions of dollars a quarter.  That’ll show Apple!

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=10602828 Mike Hilal

        A drop in the bucket for samsung….

        • Stating El Obvious

          LOL…you really believe that they’d do that?  hahahahha…that’s a good one.

          “We’re going to stop licensing to our most successful vendor because the loss would be a drop in the bucket”

          Thank goodness you’re not running Samsung.

          • Stewie

            You really need to change the name to OBlivious …

  • http://www.facebook.com/princesation Prince Dela Cruz

    Did the cave men sue people who made fire or wheels ? i dont think so . I guess they’re smarter than present-day people

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  • duke69111

    I don’t know much about patents, but why do all these lawsuits take place over seas and in Germany?

    • Anonymous

      Cause German courts are basically Yes Men.

      • Anonymous

        It’s not yes men, its yes fruity…We’ll do what your juicenes desires….. 

  • Prince

    Did Google patent the drop down notification system? Because if they didn’t, those clowns up in Cupertino will patent ‘Notification center’ and sue Android for that as well. Apple have become utterly ridiculous!

  • Anonymous

    i like how apple is the “evil” one here yet motorola countinuously screws their customers by making similar yet slightly better phones within months of eachother and blatantly lie to the public about unlocking bootloaders, instead wanting you to buy their “developer” phone (with no warranty -_-)

    • Stating El Obvious

      It’s cuz android sheep love “choice!!!”  So they choose to buy outdated phones and not get updates.  It’s all about choice!  LOL.

      • Anonymous

        I’ll have to ask all those i*hone 4 and older users how they are enjoying Siri.

        • Anonymous

          Better Idea, go buy a new 3GS. That’s not an outdated phone and yet ATT still sells them. CORRECTION: They are for sale. Whether or not the actually sell any is different :p

      • Anonymous

        this si in response to a couple discussions up…chrome is not android’s default browser, the default browser has flash…whether or not chrome is google’s “official” browser is a moot point…and btw, don’t name call, it ruins your argument

    • http://www.facebook.com/RECK5inCe88 Carlos Morales

      a locked bootloader is easy to deal with if your not a developer. a phone which depends on a computer to get your content on it for free not so much.

      • Stating El Obvious

        Wow welcome to 2011…you don’t need a computer to use an iPhone anymore.  Silly android sheep.

        • http://www.facebook.com/RECK5inCe88 Carlos Morales

          yes u do. can you download music for free on your iphone without jailbreaking it? i have an ipod touch 4th gen and never bother to use it anymore since i got my Nexus. why because although i love Mac OSX i despise iOS’ inability to perform desktop tasks on your phone. for christ sakes not even the ipad can do the things desktop can.

          • Stating El Obvious

            Oh, yeah you’re right, you can’t illegally download music on an iPhone.  What a fail on Apple’s part.  What are you like 11 years old??

          • http://www.facebook.com/RECK5inCe88 Carlos Morales

            no. im a 24 year old realist. if your able to download it on your computer you should be able to do it on your phone as well. if you dont do it its your problem not mine but you should be able to as u can on OSX. 

          • Stating El Obvious

            Your a 24 year old child.  The best you can come up with is Apple doesn’t allow you to download free music (illegally) on their device?  Grow up, get a job, and pay for your music.  You’re probably one of the morons who occupy wall street cuz the “guvment took my money”

          • http://www.facebook.com/RECK5inCe88 Carlos Morales

            and your probably one of those that sit on a line for months to get what? last years tech? go back to macworld troll.

          • Stating El Obvious

            Go back to OWS, loser.  ”Man, I can’t get my music for free, Apple sucks!!”  What an idiot.

          • http://www.facebook.com/RECK5inCe88 Carlos Morales

            yeah i can also have a full browser experience. but of course theres an app for that right?

          • Stating El Obvious

            Yeah we all know how important Flash is, since Google’s own browser doesn’t support it, and Adobe has no plans to implement it.  You’re the epitome of a sheep.  Get a job.

          • http://www.facebook.com/RECK5inCe88 Carlos Morales

            show’s how much you know its directly integrated dude.

          • Anonymous

            Don’t feed the troll dude.

          • Stating El Obvious

            Flash is directly integrated into Chrome Beta for Android? Yeah?  That’s cool, how’d you manage that?  You truly are a sheep.  Just saying things without having any idea what you’re talking about.

            http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/02/no-flash-for-chrome-for-android-beta/

            There’s no flash for chrome beta, and there never will be.  Flash is junk, and Adobe has stopped developing it for mobile browsers.  Pretty funny that Google’s own official browser for Android doesn’t have flash…guess Google doesn’t know about the “full internet experience”

            Damn 24 year old sheep.

          • http://www.facebook.com/RECK5inCe88 Carlos Morales

            “Yeah we all know how important Flash is, since Google’s own browser doesn’t support it, and Adobe has no plans to implement it.” i dont see Chrome BETA anywhere. do you?

          • Stating El Obvious

            …Google created Chrome Beta.  When you download Chrome Beta from the market, it says Google, Inc under it as the developer.  Therefore Chrome Beta is “Google’s own browser”.  Were you really that confused by what I wrote?  If so, seek help.

          • http://www.facebook.com/RECK5inCe88 Carlos Morales

            yes i think so. because again 
            “Yeah we all know how important Flash is, since Google’s own browser doesn’t support it, and Adobe has no plans to implement it.” doesnt state anywhere chrome beta for android. it says google’s own browser yet but apparently you forgot Chrome is on desktops as well. 

          • Stating El Obvious

            We’re talking about Android, moron.  Geez, take a deep breath and try to stay on topic.  By your stupid logic there’s no problem because Safari on Macs has Flash, yet you’re here whining about “the full internet experience”

          • http://www.facebook.com/RECK5inCe88 Carlos Morales

            did you know that chrome isnt the default browser on android? just to give you the heads up. 

          • Stating El Obvious

            Yes, and do you know that chrome IS the official browser from Google?  Just to give you a heads up.

          • http://www.facebook.com/RECK5inCe88 Carlos Morales

            but were talking about android? last time i checked android’s official browser isnt chrome. or is it chrome that we are talking about? and by beta doesn’t that imply something? 

          • Stating El Obvious

            Are you sure you’re 24?  Adults can usually keep up with the progression of a discussion.  I’m getting dumber speaking to you and having to explain everything twenty times.  

            1) You mentioned a crippled internet experience because of lack of Flash
            2)  I said the browser that Google OFFICIALLY released does not support Flash
            3)  You got confused and started talking about desktops
            4)  You start denying that Chrome is an official browser from Google
            5)  You think that because it’s “beta” that means it’s going to get Flash
            6)  Adobe states that it will NOT be developing Flash for chrome beta for android
            7)  You stand on the Occupy Wall Street line to get a handout.

          • http://www.facebook.com/RECK5inCe88 Carlos Morales

            ok to start. i never denied chrome as an official google browser. i denied it as an android browser. second you mentioned flash not me. i simply said full browser experience you assumed i ment flash which is runny perfectly on my nexus s running android 4.0.3 which the Woz loves so so much. i entertained your ranting on about google and i guess i shoould have stopped it early but heres something i do want to say i totally agree with you on. those OWS people really need to get a life. go get a job, make money rather then spend all that time standing infront of buildings getting arrested. but lets go back to the patent wars between apple and google’s preferred manufactures which apple so kindly uses parts from. what do you think about it? whats your position? 

          • http://www.facebook.com/RECK5inCe88 Carlos Morales

            i couldnt read it on the other post and i had a a** on the first one so heres what i wrote. 
            ok to start. i never denied chrome as an official google browser. i denied it as an android browser. second you mentioned flash not me. i simply said full browser experience you assumed i ment flash which is runny perfectly on my nexus s running android 4.0.3 which the Woz loves so so much. i entertained your ranting on about google and i guess i shoould have stopped it early but heres something i do want to say i totally agree with you on. those OWS people really need to get a life. go get a job, make money rather then spend all that time standing infront of buildings getting arrested. but lets go back to the patent wars between apple and google’s preferred manufactures which apple so kindly uses parts from. what do you think about it? whats your position?

  • EC8CH

    I’m fine with this, so long as the ICS unlock is not found to be infringing if it is ever challenged.  The ICS unlock is distinctly different, more elegant, and more functional than the dated i*hone unlock slide.

    • http://twitter.com/55938 MrSix

      If i recall correctly that’s exactly whats happened. They’re suing Samsung, not google for some reason, because of ICS’s lock screen.
      Notice the wording, “performing gestures on an unlock image”, so apparently apple now owns moving your finger(s) across a lock screen in any fashion to unlock a device… If apple keeps getting their way with this pretty soon we’ll be back to the days of dedicated unlock buttons and double taps and that sort of crap.

      • Anonymous

        If I remember correctly Google was awarded a similar patent a month or two after Crapple was awarded with theirs….The idiot who signed off on those patents most likely have never seen a present day smartphone….Crapple gets awarded with a patent for something that 99% of the smart phone industry is using to access their device….

  • SH

    What a load of crapple.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HLCDWAIB2FFWG2YQCBLOJJ2WMI LarryT

    Google should sue Apple for stealing the notification tray they implemented on iOS 5

    • Facts

      you cannot not sue for an idea on a patent. Google doesn’t own a patent for a notification center. 

      • Facts

        “idea, only a patent”

    • Anonymous

      except that google didnt invent drop down notifications…hell SBSettings in cydia was using that before android

      • http://www.facebook.com/RECK5inCe88 Carlos Morales

        thats a mod for one. and its been in android since the G1. 

      • Billyrouth2000

        And apple hasent invented anything, they just steal everyone else’s ideas and pretend they invented it

    • http://www.facebook.com/RECK5inCe88 Carlos Morales

      the notification tray, the long press to see running app’s the wallpaper in the background. the folders. even the camera effects. all things apple should be sued for.

      • Duh

        you don’t long press to see running apps. it is a double tap. get your facts straight. you look dumb. 

        • http://www.facebook.com/RECK5inCe88 Carlos Morales

          cool story. now remind me what the double tap does again? brings up the running apps/recent apps correct?  yeah thought so.

          • Duh

            you said long press. long press is voice control. double tap is running apps. did you already forget what you typed or can you not read? yeah thought so

          • http://www.facebook.com/RECK5inCe88 Carlos Morales

            my point was the running apps not the method of getting there. ill admit i should have probably just said the running apps but i guess no ones allowed to mis-word anything. in the end apple will attempt to put claim on anything they use even if they arent the first to do so. 

      • Anonymous

        you mean the notification tray that google DIDNT INVENT?

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HLCDWAIB2FFWG2YQCBLOJJ2WMI LarryT

          Yeah, like Apple invented many of the things they are suing for too, right? BS

          • Stating El Obvious

            It has nothing to do with inventing, it has to do with patenting.  System sucks, but that’s what it is.  If there was prior art, the patents would be invalidated.  If there wasn’t the patents would be upheld.  Anyone can patent whatever they want, and sue for whatever they want.

        • http://www.facebook.com/RECK5inCe88 Carlos Morales

          iif you didnt notice i didnt say google in anything i wrote. i said “all things apple should be sued for”… go back to macworld troll.

  • Dsel928

    Breaking new apple files a patent against Google for making a nexus every year.

  • Ghostrda

    Pefectenschlag

    • Stating El Obvious

      Pork Penis Sausage?

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=10602828 Mike Hilal

        Pork sword

  • Anonymous

    Germany, you guys are nuts. Do you just accept every patent lawsuit that shows up at your doorstep?

    • Anonymous

      And someone told me Germany was supposed to be a 1st world nation… I feel sorry for German consumers for everything blocked in that country for dumb patents.

  • Stating El Obvious

    Fandroids are pissed.

  • Butters619

    ”unlocking a device by performing gestures on an unlock image.”

    Just seems so vague….

  • Bob Martin

    slide to unlock is like 2 years old. who even cares about slide to unlock besides the fruity company? now we have the new lockscreen from honeycomb and ICS which works differently.

    • http://www.facebook.com/jonathanf Jonathan Fingas

      Five years.  Apple’s been showing it since January 2007, or about a year and a half before the G1 showed up.

  • Anonymous

    Everyone should start flooding the DOJ website with Apple anti-trust complaints.  Between their practices with publishers (must go through iTunes), their anti-competitive patent trolling, and their restrictions against sideloading, etc., they define the definition of anti-trust.  

    • Facts

      Hold on you must go through Apple to sell things on Apple devices. How scandalous. Next you are going to say that I should be able to walk into Barnes and Nobles and sell my books without giving them a cut. Are you 11 years old. 

      • ??

        Are you confused about where you are posting?

        • Facts

          are you confused about what i am doing?

          • EC8CH

            nope, you’re pretty obvious

  • http://www.facebook.com/RECK5inCe88 Carlos Morales

    ehhh slide to unlock is soo last year. motorola needs a new method anyways. this is actually better for google because now even more nexus-like features will be implimented into Sense, Blur and all other overlays. so in a sense thnx apple for this lawsuit you seem to care alot about the android community =) 

    these stupid lawsuits are just gunna make android better but unfortunately apple doesnt get it.

    • Anonymous

      Apple is trying to get an injunction against the Galaxy Nexus as well for slide to unlock…

      • http://www.facebook.com/RECK5inCe88 Carlos Morales

        yes they are trying but are they going to win? lets be real, the G-nex slide method isnt apple’s slide method. they can take the 2.x and down method of slide but to be honest by now who would care if that changes. 
        in the end the whole patent war started by apple is stupid because if they look at there track record it only makes companies stronger rather then destroy them. by gimping some android functions they are only pushing android to be more innovative and soon enough apple will have nothing to say “your stealing from me” just as microsoft has nothing to say to apple.

        • Anonymous

          That begs the question, Why the heck did the do away the Rotary Unlock? 
          That thing was never confused with crApple

      • Anonymous

        If you read the judgement, the Xoom was found to not be in violation of Apple’s patent. So anything running the Honeycomb / ICS style lockscreen should be safe from this patent.

        The GNex as well as all of the tablets named in Apple’s US lawsuit run the HC / ICS lockscreen, so on the surface, this patent won’t apply.

        For the rest of the named Samsung phones, they all unlock when you slide a full-screen image off the screen in any direction. That should be similar enough to the HC / ICS method that this patent won’t apply as well.

  • Anonymous

    Another reason for Motorola to get there ICS updates out.

    Also, you shouldn’t be allowed to patent something so vaguely worded. They might as well just patent, “doing something with something that does something.”

    • Stating El Obvious

      I have a strong hunch that the patent application doesn’t just say “slide to unlock” with no other explanation…pretty sure it’s pretty detailed…just a hunch….

      • SH

        I have not seen the actually patent, but after seeing some of the other patents apple has, it wouldn’t surprise me if it really says “slide finger across screen to unlock device”

        • Stating El Obvious

          Patent applications are several pages long, it’s not just a one liner that says slide your finger to unlock.  So no, it wouldn’t say just that.  And no, the courts wouldn’t just decide based on looking at the violation in question without actually reading and understanding what the granted patent was for.

      • Anonymous

        I was referring to the quote in the article about performing a gesture on an unlock image. El Obviously. Maybe change your name to El Notsogoodat ReadingComprende.

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  • Jeff Simpson

    “Motorola’s Implementation” as if it’s functionally any different than stock android…

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002918282828 Christopher Grame

      Apple is afraid to go after google though…just think about how many services apple uses of googles and besides their bankroll is 100x that of any phone manufacturer.  Apple should grow some balls and try this patent bs with microsoft or google 

      • DowJones

        hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Google doesn’t build anything and then sell it so how could apple go after them. You also know that Apple has enough money in cash to buy 50% of Google. Google is small potatoes compared to Apple. 

  • Anonymous

    I just hate apple

  • http://whitemarket.freeforums.org/ Avery Dejuan Herron

    Next patent typing with a onscreen keyboard!

  • Anonymous

    PATENT: Petty Apple Tramples Emerging Technology

    • Anonymous

      Where’s the N?

      • http://www.facebook.com/TJHRULZ tjhrulz

        Where we are going we dont need N’s

        • Derek

          Paradise

        • B Diggs82

          Nice! This is one of the most entertaining threads I’ve ever read

      • Nick

         PATENT: Petty Apple Tramples Emerging (New) Technology

    • Nideda24

      PATET?

    • Stating El Obvious

      Michael_NM:  My idiotic crappy humor acronym explicitly left “n” missing

      • Anonymous

        Impressive

      • B Diggs82

        Nice!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000106808261 Keith Sumner

    “Slide to unlock….the bootloader”

  • Anonymous

    Quick, someone get some whiteout and turn that lock symbol into a key.  Patent worked around!

    • http://www.facebook.com/TJHRULZ tjhrulz

      This surprisingly may work. lol

  • http://www.facebook.com/LuisElTiburon Luis Rojas

    F it ill buy a iPhone, you win apple you win

    • Bob Martin

      i’ll use a brick phone from the 1980′s before I even think about buying any Iphone

      • Facts

        no you wouldn’t 

  • http://twitter.com/thelazzyone Lazy

    Why would Google even care. They won an injunction on Android 2.X implementation of Slide to Unlock.. They didn’t win on the Android 3.X and Android 4.X implantation with the circle. 

    To me they already won this. Time to move on because that patent that Apple has ..has already been worked around.

    • I B HatenApple

      “This just in, Ford Motor company has filed an injunction against General Motors, Chrysler Group, LLC, and Toyota Motor Co. claiming that their use of a rounded directional device is infringing on Ford’s steering wheel patent.”  ;o)

      This patent crap is making some lawyers rich but making some companies look foolish!!!!!

  • https://plus.google.com/114483312559013915960/ Timoh

    its pretty obvious that it would be in violation of the patent. I dont think something like this should be patentable in the first place.

    • Democracy

      Well maybe you should start a campaign to change the patent laws or you could just bitch on a tech blog. 

      • Anonymous

        Or he could bitch on a tech blog about people bitching on a tech blog. Would that be better?

        • Democracy

          i’m not bitching. i was offering constructive steps to solve his problems. 

          • EC8CH

            thanks for clearing that up….. cause it sounded like you were bitching

          • Anonymous

            And Timoh wasn’t offering constructive steps to solve the problem of needed patent reform?

            You really need to troll better if you want people to get all uppity and reply angrily to your comments. Here’s what you should have done (feel free to edit your first post):
            “If it’s so obvious, why didn’t anyone but Apple think it up in the first place? Or do you really want me to believe that some kid on a tech blog knows more than the US Patent Office?”

  • rocketdaddy

    OK, I wish I had the patent on turning doorknobs to open a door. Kudos to Apple for pulling off the slide to unlock patent.  What a joke.

  • http://www.facebook.com/TJHRULZ tjhrulz

    Victory? Victory you say? Master Kellen, not victory. The shroud of the apple has fallen. Begun the Patent War has. 

    • Anonymous

      Would be funnier if this was something new….. A for effort.

      • http://www.facebook.com/TJHRULZ tjhrulz

        It was not ment to be new, just better than the standard the patent wars have begun

        Also, YES I got an A

    • Anonymous

      I think im the only one that read this as Yoda….

      • Anonymous

        False.

        You should read that as Dwight Schrute.

  • http://www.facebook.com/TJHRULZ tjhrulz

    Or they could show that apple was not the first to have slide to unlock.

    • http://www.facebook.com/TJHRULZ tjhrulz

      Oops did a link instead of image add

      • http://www.facebook.com/RECK5inCe88 Carlos Morales

        lol gotta love this. 

  • Anonymous
  • Ry D

    Apple is so ridiculous. Google should wake up and play that same ridiculous patent game as Apple. How was Apple able to add “Notification Centre” or patent something like “Face Unlock” is BEYOND ME!!

    • Leonardo Benveniste

      I think they’re waiting for the deal with motorola to complete. they are probablyu keeping a low profile for now but when everyone aproves the operation, they will return all this crap back to apple, kinda like a “stop suing or you’ll never make a cellphone again”

      • Ry D

        That would be pretty damn sweet to see. On a other note concerning patents, I really do think Google should have gotten in on that Nortel Patent Portfolio deal too.

        • Anonymous

          They tried to, but were outbid. Being part of the consortium wouldn’t have made any sense, as Google got the DoJ on their side to ensure the Nortel patents could not be used for anti-competitive means. Still, I would have like for Google to have won those since Google only uses patents as a defensive measure. I sure wish Apple did that.

        • Firant

           So did Google.  Saddly MS and Apple disagreed.

          • Duh

            not true in the least. Apple and Microsoft tried to get Google to join and they refused. Research is important. 

          • Anonymous

            You have a bit more to do, if you really care to know the facts of the matter. Something tells me, though, you already “know” all you need to.

          • Stating El Obvious

            As do you.  Google was asked to join, they refused because they felt the patents could be used against their own OEMs, then they made some stupid bid (which the sheep all thought was so cool), lost and then started whining about being gang up on them.  

            Sheep like yourself love that type of stuff though.

          • Anonymous

            Seriously, you’re still doing it wrong. You can’t troll someone who’s already in on it. You need to find someone that doesn’t know you’re a troll, and then hook them with some mildly inflammatory rhetoric.

            It’s really not that hard; most of us learned how to troll back in Jr. High when we thought that sort of thing was fun. (Pro tip: you can turn this comment around by saying something like, “you’re still in Jr. High!” or a well placed joke about my mom).

          • Stating El Obvious

            So you’re “in” on my trolling, and you’re still feeding me?  That’s…cool.

            What else you got?  I mean, I would like more tips.  LOL.  Because…you’re helping me, and not actually being baited by me…

          • Anonymous

            Use more pictures. People like pictures, and then they don’t have to read.

          • Stating El Obvious

            Ok cool….I am going to bait you some more.  What else?  Now now, I know you’re “in” on this so don’t worry you’re not being baited?  What else can I do??

          • Anonymous

            You must live a very sad life El Obvious, so sad.

          • Stating El Obvious

            You again?  You’re one of the biggest sheep here…

          • Anonymous

            So sad…

          • Stating El Obvious

            so sheep….

          • Stating El Obvious

            Well now it seems like you realized you were getting trolled…because you’ve suddenly stopped responding…and here I thought you were “in” on it…

      • Ry D

        Lol Knowing Apple sheep, they wouldn’t care if their i*hones made calls.

        • Stating El Obvious

          Knowing Android sheep, they wouldn’t care if their phone loses data randomly and randomly reboots, and doesn’t get updated for a year, and stops getting updated after a year, and and and….

          • Anonymous

            Mine doesn’t do that. Maybe I’m holding it wrong?

          • Stating El Obvious

            Yours doesn’t do that because you’re a sheep.  I doubt we’re getting all these bugfixes because these phones don’t do that…

          • Anonymous

            Swing and a miss. Your troll powers are slipping of late; maybe you should go under your bridge and regroup. Here are some ideas to help you out for future posts:
            -Talk about how Android was originally a BB clone.
            -Compare Android owners to WalMart shoppers.
            -Cite iPhone satisfaction surveys.
            -Use the word “fandroid” instead of sheep. Mix it up a little; it’s fun!

            These aren’t written in stone, either. You can take some of these ideas and tweak them a bit or build on them. Remember not to turn to personal attacks too quickly, or you’ll lose your audience (but feel free once you have your mark hooked).

            Happy trolling!

          • Stating El Obvious

            Pretty lame.  You’re a sheep, it’s blatantly obvious and you’re pissed because of this decision by the courts.  So now you’re going around giving “suggestions” to trolls in a transparent attempt to deflect from your sadness.  

            Come on, man…at least give it some effort to hide your feelings….

          • Anonymous

            Your loss. You could have had some great trolling; I’m telling you, those are troll gold ideas.

          • Stating El Obvious

            Well clearly I’ve got you hooked…guess you’re the mark huh?  Thanks for the advice, weak minded troll feeders like yourself really do fall for your tips!

            Come on bro tell us how you really feel about this decision?  You’re pretty upset that your Droid Bionic won’t have slide to unlock anymore huh?

          • Anonymous

            It’s like watching the fat drunk girl take off her top. Kind of funny, but kind of sad in a way, too.

          • John Davids

            I hope you realize that you both look catastrophically moronic. Please take your BS trolling, anti-trolling, pre-trolling or whatever the hell else you want to call it somewhere else. 

            We all come here to get Android related news / rumors / info, not to listen to a pair of idiots slide the comments to the right side of the screen.

            Don’t. Feed. The. Trolls.

          • Stating Your Obvious

            Listen…can you hear that??? It’s the crying of Apple sheep. SEEN 1 Iphony SEEN THEM ALL!!! You can’t say that about all Android devices…and bugfixes are not for everyone you Idiot! 

          • hatethefansnotapple

            you do realize steve jobs is dead…? you don’t have to suck his d*ck anymore…

          • Billyrouth2000

            You mean like how ios only gets updated once a year just to catch up with android?

      • Anonymous

        Motorola is already in lawsuits with Google’s key competitors (Apple and Microsoft), all over the world.  You have to believe they’ve already thrown their best ammo into those fights.  

        I think the moto buy was more about keeping those patents out of Apple and Microsoft’s hands.

        • Facts

          Wow someone with common sense. This whole idea that they bought Moto because of all of these great offensive patents is laughable. Moto is getting their ass handed to them in court and their patents aren’t helping. Google bought Moto so they could control the hardware production just like Apple does. Has very, very little to do with patents. 

          • Stating El Obvious

            Google realizes that vertical integration is the only way to be successful.  Unlike what the sheep here think, selling under a million units of your flagship phone is not a good thing.

          • Facts

            Exactly. I think what Google is doing is smart. Vertical integration is the present and future of operating systems and although i don’t like Android I think Google is very smart to recognize that and attempt to follow Apple’s lead. Just like they did with a mobile OS, web browser, music store, app store, movie store, etc…

          • Stating El Obvious

            Yep, and with Motorola’s great hardware and Google’s software, the phones are going to be far more successful.  The sheep like to think that “open” is all amazing, but clearly that doesn’t translate it anything people want.

          • Facts

            Open is sooooo important. That is why Ubuntu is taking the world by storm. Oh wait….no they aren’t.

          • Stating El Obvious

            LOL.  Open is important to the sheep who think it makes them cooler to own an Android phone.  People in the real world don’t care, as evidenced by the iPhones ridiculous success.

          • Stating Your Obviously Not

            Your assumptions are idiotic. Not every who wants Android devices desire Google’s flagship phone….some perfer Moto just like I do. That’s why Android sits on top of the world as a whole…and that’s with or without the lawsuits!!! Being OPEN is why everyone wants an Android device, including you.

          • Stating El Obvious

            If assuming that when I buy a phone it won’t be outdated a week after purchase is idiotic, then yes, we are all idiots because that’s what happens.

            “Check out my new RAZR!!”
            One month later…”Verizon Wireless is proud to announce the RAZR MAXX!!!”

          • Stating Your Obvious

            That’s what Isheeps said when they couldn’t get Siri if they didn’t have a 4s….FAIL!!

          • Stating El Obvious

            You can do better then that…

          • EC8CH

            ummm… Motorola has recently won a number of patent suits against apple, and on technology that is substantially more important than an unlocking gesture.

          • Facts

            Where in one court in Germany that was promptly overturned. hahaha nice try

          • Stating El Obvious

            You mean the FRAND patents?  Yeah, let’s see how far they get with that…

          • EC8CH

            and the work around for this is going to be sooooo hard to do?

            about as hard as adding 5mm to the edges of a tablet and putting the speakers in front, no wait… it’ll actually be much easier than that.

          • Stating El Obvious

            Huh?  You can’t sue for FRAND patents, which are what the patents that motorola sued for, and that’s why the injunction was overturned in what was it, 5 minutes?  In fact, suing for FRAND patents is anti-competitive and Moto probably got themselves in a crapload of trouble for even trying.  There’s no workaround involved, you simply cannot sue for FRAND patents.

          • EC8CH

            the work around for this ridiculous slide to unlock patent.

          • Stating El Obvious

            Yes, of course it’ll be easy.  No one said it wouldn’t.  That’s not the point, I was referring to you saying Apple lost far more significant patent cases, and the truth is no, they did not, because those were FRAND patents and that’s why the injunction was overturned about 2 seconds after it was granted.

    • Stating El Obvious

      Probably the same way Google was able to add making folders in ICS (iOS) and the People App (WP7).  People copy all the time.  

  • Brian Azzi

    These patent wars are out of hand on all sides & its the consumers that lose. :(

    • Kyle Fullmer

      No one can even pretend this is for anything more than to put more money in peoples pockets.  R&D costs money, so why spend additional funds innovating new ideas when you can just try keeping everyone else away from what you already have.