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Motorola Dinara to Follow the DROID Bionic, May Be One of the First Android Super Phones?

There is this empty space for devices in 2011 after the DROID Bionic that needs to be filled, and we haven’t heard a peep about any of it from any of our sources.  Well until now.  We may have just received word on Moto’s next super or “flagship” phone that is currently scheduled for a winter release and will surely fill up some “space” or at the very least, bring in some good chatter.

We’ve been told that the Motorola Dinara (codename of course) is the next big thing.  It’s still under development, but currently has an “HD” screen, 13MP rear camera, VGA front, and an internal/non-removable battery.  It will look almost identical to the Bionic in styling, but will end up as a much slimmer and lighter device.  It’s running Gingerbread still since no one has Ice Cream Sandwich yet and should be here by this winter.  No word on the processor or RAM.

Update:  A couple of additional details have been mentioned to us:  TI processor, 1GB RAM, bigger screen than the Bionic (same device size, but screen closer to the edge), lock button on the side (a la Samsung), and the internal battery has not been a problem.

There is a chance that it could end up on multiple carriers, but it’s currently being tested on Verizon’s network.  We weren’t told if it’ll be 4G LTE or not – how could it not be though?

Oh, and I should point out that “Dinara” is the name of a mountain range, something Motorola has been known to use on their higher end devices.  Anyone remember the Olympus, Everest, and Etna?

We’ve definitely flagged this as a rumor, since these things all seem to change oh so regularly.  The end of the year is pretty far away in mobile time.

The hypebeast machine has been turned back on.

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  • Motorola coming out with the first Super Android? Thought for sure it would have been samsung…

  • Anonymous

    Nice but No No No No, screen size MAX 4.3 a Xenon flash would be nice on a Smartphone

  • alun

    will it be quad core?

  • Meatloaft

    It’s not for me, sounds cool, but being left handed, I like the lock button where it belongs, on top.

  • CroGuy

    Dinara highest peak in Croatia! Moto u chose sexy name! 🙂 

  • Anonymous

    Should cost mucho Dinero.

  • LOL x 10000 @ this. Wake me up when they finally release the Bionic. I’s switching to Sprint to get the Photon.

  • Anonymous

    screw moto and their mythical locked down unicorns…just give us the damn galaxy s2 already samsung

  • Anonymous

    when samsung can send out updates without breaking critical features of the phone, i’ll think about jumping from moto to sammy…

  • I think I am going to upgrade my imaginary #DroidBionic to the imaginary #DroidDinara. Perhaps I can get imaginary unlimited data plan:)

  • Djlowproz

    VGA Front camera = Fail.
    Atleast give it a 2mp front camera.

  • Amu1

    Nexus Prime/3 > Anything from Moto

  • So now the question, upgrade in 16 days to the Bionic, or wait till the end of the year for the Dinara (actually I like that name)?

  • Anonymous

    Good. Now I don’t feel so bad about getting a Thunderbolt!

  • Anonymous

    Yikes.  The Bionic will be outdated before it ever drops and now we hear of “filler” devices for the rest of this year?  Once Motorola starts delivering, I’ll be interested.  I just want one good phone that can replace my OG Droid and be useful for the next two years.  So far this year, VZW and its partners have really (I mean REALLY) disappointed. The D3 is the closest thing to buyable yet the early reviews are very harsh on it.  Kellex, you got a full review ready yet?  I’m really thinking of the D3 and leave all the Bionic speculation behind.  My OG Droid is broke and I  *really* need a good phone…

  • Lg

    verizon customer service:

    you : my phone is not responding

    customer service: please pull your battery

    you : i cant its not possible its half motorola half iphone

    customer service: ohh then you have to buy a new phone, good bye.

  • al

    Mt. Wanahuccalugie is the phone I’m waiting for.

    But seriously a non removable battery ? Maybe it will have a pin hole reset button or something?

  • scanning through droid-life i saw the title and read “Motorola Diarrhea” 

    what a terrible code name.

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  • Anonymous

    As long as Bionic has 1 gig of ram and i have the ability to or should i say “freedom” to exchange or buy a extended battery.. im happy.  I get 200mb or ram free on my droid X and boy do i can tell when jumping to camera mode and back etc..

  • Davros

    wtf?  one of my favorite things to do in front of my iphone buddies is change my battery and keep on going.

  • Mr. Joe

    A phone very similar to this is coming to AT&T.  In fact this sounds like the AT&T one.

    • Anonymous

      It is the at&t one. check out hofo and they say this codename is coming to at&t not verizon. fone sex
      Damnit, sorry guys, looks like my guy gave me wrong info. I had to tell him it wasn’t the Bionic! After further examination looks like its a phone for ATT. If the Bionic is anything like this however I’m still on it. Here is what I was able to gather:

      Model Number: MB886
      Android Version: 2.3.4
      Webtop Version: “Unknown”
      Build Date: July 7, 2011

      Possible name or code name: Dinara

      Def 13 MP camera
      Front facing camera
      Power button is on the side
      Rubberized back
      Says “Dual Core technologies” at load screen
      Super fast

      Sorry again guys, I’m just as disappointed as you are.

      Yeah, that isn’t for Verizon.

      Great source Kellex you might want to change it.

      • you’re so confident that Kellex’s sources are wrong and the one you posted are 100% correct. 
        how do you know Kellex hasnt done the research, douche?

        • Anonymous

          Pretty sure the sources who actually have the phone would know. Forename Dinara is at&t maybe they are doing like the gs on all carriers but it isn’t called Dinara. Maybe do some research then talk to me dumbass.

  • FortitudineVincimus

    “Dinara” or “Dinero’.. cha chinggg

  • Is this that “Droid HD” that we saw pictures being taken with at the Motorola campus in Libertyville, IL?

  • Anonymous

    Kellex your so called source is off check howard forums this is for at&t!

  • Kon101

    Is it “Dinara” because you will have to shell out lots of Dinero to buy it?

  • QQMore

    Wow, well, if nothing else came out between the Bionic and this, and this turned out to be a great performer, it could have been my next upgrade.  I’m finally eligible (20 month mark) to upgrade my OG Droid in November.  The sealed in battery kinda kills it though.  Especially if it comes with the “new policy of not locking the bootloader” we were supposed to see at the end of 2011.  I guess they could put a reset button on the side kind of like what a PC has but otherwise uh uh.

  • GinoSylum

    I love everything about it, but come on, the screens are just too big.

  • I paid $32.67 for a XBOX 360 and my mom got a 17 inch Toshiba laptop for $94.83 being delivered to our house tomorrow by FedEX. I will never again pay expensive retail prices at stores. I even sold a 46 inch HDTV to my boss for $650 and it only cost me $52.78 to get. Here is the website we using to get all this stuff, LiveCent.com

  • Anonymous

    a 13MP camera with a VGA front??  Man, how cheap!

  • Anonymous

    ive waited more over half a year for the Bionic, whats another 3 months!

  • Anonymous

    This may be my next phone, we’ll have to see….

  • Anonymous

    how much bigger do you need? It will really be a brick and probably another 6 month delay. Non removable battery? Here comes apple lawsuit lol.

  • Anonymous

    13MP? They would be better off just not making pieces of S 8MP cameras.  The one on my OG needs 3rd party apps to make pictures pass as viewable.    

  • david

    August 4 or we riot

  • d-roids

    wake me up when a quad core phone comes out

  • Anonymous

    This phone is for AT&T according to fonesex on HoFo who got all these details. Don’t get too excited guys.

  • Anonymous

    thought this was for at&t that’s what someones source said so who said it was for verizon?

  • mdeblaz

    who cares… the smartphone industry is becoming saturated now… too many phones available.  At some point – now – people are just going to stick with they have and be happy with it.

    • James_Ever

      Yep, can’t agree more. I was like that with my first device, had to know what was coming next, now I have a DROID2 and droid2global sitting in a box that was used for less than a week. I learned my lesson and am happy with the Droid3. Don’t get me wrong, I love reading about new technology but to wait over and over for the next best thing will likely be forgotten in a few months now.

  • RW-1

    Jha Rhetoric …

    ” It will look almost identical to the Bionic in styling, but will end up as a much slimmer and lighter device.”

    How is that going to happen? I’m laughing at that statement.

    Device does more more more, but the batt will be smaller yet give twice the lasting power compared to what’s out there now.

    Jha, let’s drop pentile and go 8bit to save power on the screens …

    13MP cam?  The Jha camp doesn’t get it. It’s not how big it is in MP, it’s the size of the sensor … and the SW.

    non removable batt – the next evolution in (Jha) Droid fail.

  • Alex W.

    13 MPx… wow… Pictures will still look like crap until they put a decent lens in there. 

    Megapixels don’t mean a damn thing unless you have the lens to support them.  I’d pay $50 for a better lens as opposed to a 20 MPx camera on a phone.


    I think its Apple time. Tired of having an out dated Android 4months later , tired of waiting on updates ,tired of bloatware. Until VZW let’s me get a nexus, because of all the carrier data changes I’m not leaving VZW.till then Im retiring my o.g. ,dinc,x ,and tbolt.

    • Why not root your devices and be adventurous? You have a Droid X? that’s one of the best Android phones!! and one of the consistently supported in the community. I have one running CM7beta and it’s still awesome.



        • Mack

          So much shouting…

    • Rich Floresjr

      I just flashed Liberty on my overclocked DX and man, this phone just got even better.

  • Bewara2009

    I guess once I get the Bionic, and after this phone comes out “Dinara” and wait and see the reviews, if its a killer phone than I just have to sell my bionic on ebay and get this phone…

  • Interstellarmind

    non-removal battery? what gives?

    also, gonna just wait for HTC’s next big offerring, but, i AM intrigued.

  • The Observer

    .I’ll wait for HTC’s next device. I just can’t put my trust in Moto.

  • jimbob

    Smells like the original Targa.  Not the downsized, has-to-be-like-the-original-Bionic thing we have now.

  • Anonymous

    Droid HD anyone?

  • Jake Bailey

    I really don’t want to wait again like I did with the Bionic.

    • Anonymous

      Same then something else will be right around the corner.

    • Anonymous

      OH you’ll wait AND you will like it!!! just kidding dude.   🙂

  • Earleepa

    Non removable battery kills it for me. If I wanted that I would go with crapple.

  • Cb3fsu

    Motorola should try releasing a working product before leaking details of the next great device they have planned.  At this point I don’t know if I will ever buy another Moto product. They have ruined any sort of brand loyalty they earned with the OG Droid.  Getting one product right doesn’t make up for:

    1) Locking down the bootloader on the DX
    2) Selling a partially functioning Xoom Tablet for $800 that still isn’t 4G or SD card capable
    3) Dropping the price of the Xoom without offering Xoom early adopters anything even though the features they used as a selling point to buy at a premium still are not operable.
    4) Releasing the X2, which is a carbon copy of the original with a crappier screen and improved internals

    Seriously, what has Moto given anyone to be excited about since the OG Droid?  A bunch of promised devices that never materialize?  Attempting to lock developers out of using their products? Bloatware?

    Samsung gets it, so they will likely be getting my money when the time comes.

    • xoom is sd card capable and samsung tab is not..

      Samsung gets what….samsung charge….retards still buy it, ugly, overpriced, plastic, underpowerd, etc.

      You will keep crying about bootloaders but 99% don’t give a shit about them or even know what it is.

      DX was the best selling android phone on Verizon last year.

      Go buy an Atrix since it’s unlocked now.

      • Cb3fsu

        Apparently the Xoom SD card is read only, according to the newest post on this very site.

        Samsung is bringing the Glaxy S II which will be better than anything Moto comes out with for the next 2 years.  Better screen, thinner, thinner and supported by the developer community.

        DX has physical buttons for whatever reason but was a good phone, locked bootloader was a huge PR gaff, if it weren’t they wouldn’t be unlocking them.

        Why would I buy a POS Atrix?  Another disappointing product that no one who owns one is happy with.

  • Brendan

    I just yelled “13MP rear camera?” out loud to myself I was in such shock.

  • I dont understand why any one cares about a vga camera….I dont need it for pictures all I need it to do is make it decent enough so the other person can seen me I dont need a crazy 20mp ffc its just stupid….vga is adequate enough for everyones needs…Unless  your that loser that takes pictures of themselves and uploads it to facebook every day……..

    • Anonymous

      That’s fricken HILARIOUS!!! 🙂 You are so right too. 

  • Anonymous

    … cool, so we have to skip bionic, and go for dinara?

  • Sounds like a Bionic for other carriers….

    1gb ram, I already have that on my phone…ugh… want  2gb ram………

  • So many people carry spare batteries around??? Does everyone have HTC’s…or what? lol

    • Interstellarmind

      i had a spare battery and external charger for my DX. most usefula accessories i bought for it (also kinda necessary since i was overclocking it to 1.3ghz)

  • Sounds a lot like the original Targa rumors. 

  • OG Droid

    I want no part of a phone that is involved with AT&T.

  • PowersUSA

    Yeah my “next gen” device will have a VG -Fing – A front camera. Guess there is not much hope for the Bionic having a nice front camera. I still like to take the occasional self portrait and that is near impossible to do with a touch screen only device (Bionic will not have a dedicated camera button). This is where a decent front shooter can help make up for the lack of camera button. 

  • BJ P.

    what happened to droid targa(?)..?? i’m waiting for that..

    • This IS the Targa

      • Anonymous

        The Bionic is the new name for Targa

        • The NEW Bionic is using the OLD Targa’s design, the NEW Targa (since they changed the device from its original design) is the new Dinara which would have been the Targa.

          The Bionic’s code name is Targa because it used the old Targa design, it WAS Etna until the redesign.

  • Anonymous

    A NON-removable battery? Ehh…no thanks. I’d rather get a bit lesser phone that has a removable battery over a much greater phone that has a non-removable battery.

    Thanks, but no thanks! (Also, still waiting on that Bionic system dumb…anyone?)

  • You have to be kidding me lol… Just when you think the bionic is it they do this

  • Rich Floresjr

    If it’s quad core that’ll be my phone. I have an upgrade in December and another in April. My OG DX has new life now that I put the Liberty mod on here and clocked it to 1.3ghz lol. I see no reason to not wait for the big boys towards the end of this year/beginning of next year.

  • Buckgrad

    Non-removable battery? No thanks…

  • Anonymous

    Anyone want to get the D3 now?

    From the AMAZING keyboard to the great size screen, I may have to get it now.
    I am sure the Bionic will have better specs, but I have waited long enough.

    • PowersUSA

      D3 screen = barely “OK”, not great. I use a mostly green background and it likes like a checker board mess when I tested on the X2. The D3 is slightly better than the X2 due to its the higher pixel density (same resolution on a smaller screen = more pixels per inch). Now compare the D3 screen to the Sensation for example and you will see that it simply not as nice.

      • Anonymous

        Id take a screen that nothing special over a non removable battery….

  • The Droid Abides

    There’s a poster on HoFo who’s actually seen the Dinara.  He originally thought it was the Bionic but when he took a closer look yesterday to report back on specs/os version he found out it was actually the Dinara and this particular model was headed for AT&T.  He described it as being a pretty large phone, noticeably bigger than a DX, but with a 4.3″ screen still due to a wide bezel. 

  • The specs of this device sound almost identical to the new Targa, the new Bionic is the old Targa if everyone recalls the design swap.  The Targa has the 13mp camera according to those leaked images of a very svelt device, so slim it rivals the Galaxy SII. But the screen size is unknown.  The design for the back is almost identical to the new Bionic but the front its alot different.  It almost looks like a G2x from LG thats currently on the T-Mobile network (front of the design that is)

    Remember this beauty?  http://i1.phonearena.com/images/articles/38712-image/verizon-motorola-Targa.jpg  
    The leaked Targa render that said about the 13MP AF camera

  • Derek Stiles

    Why would I want a non-removable battery?  I always carry a spare with me just in case.

    • j07

      a non removable battery can be bigger and last longer, plus they can fit it in anywhere they can maximize space.  the end result is usually a much larger capacity battery.  its the same reason apple doesn’t have removable parts, it creates more space within the device.  it sucks if you want to be able to remove batteries, but for the vast majority of users it makes sense.

      • Earleepa


      • Anonymous

        For the vast majority of users, the battery deteriorates around the 1yr mark and cant hold a charge anymore. They better adopt a better battery if theyre locking it in. I have 2 spare batteries for my Droid, and rarely ever use it. But on some days when i anticipate heavy usage, I’ll be on my last battery before the day is done.

        30% more battery life is great on a daily basis (when you usually have an outlet or a charger around), but is useless on days when Im spending the day @ the zoo w my kids, taking pictures all day in the sun w screen brightness on maximum, and highly likely doing some Google+ Album uploading.

      • Anonymous

        People in my office have iphones and their battery life sucks, they need a charge inside of three quarters of the day. So yeah, a removable battery is good especially on the go. 

  • I would take a high quality 5mp camera with a nice lense over a crap 13mp camera any day.

    • PowersUSA

      Amen to that.

    • T Hall

      Totally agree.  Problem is too many people think megapixels means everything.  People have to remember how small that lens is…

    • Anonymous

      So I guess you prefer the geebees to the empees?

  • DroidTre

    Non-removable battery *scratches head. Am I suppose to be excited about that? 

    • TheAndroid1

      Sometimes integrated batteries can be larger so they will last longer, think macbook pro.

      • Earleepa

        Think maybe you’re not near a charger when you need one.

        • Think you won’t need the charger because the battery lasts an incredibly long time. But also think of all the  times you’ve needed to do a battery pull, especially with custom roms.

        • shr1k3r

          if you’re carrying a back up battery, you can easily carry a battery powered charger… or an extended battery case

      • Anonymous

        Yea but the iTouch doesn’t have a removable battery, and once mine froze. Nothing worked and I wasn’t by a computer to restore it. Its a huge pain in the ass….

        It would be ridiculous to not have one. No extended batteries? What if you need a battery pull when installing a ROM? 

        This would be the reason I pass on the Bionic. 

      • Anonymous

        I’ll have to agree with this, My asus transformer has an internal battery and that thing gets about 9 hours of usage at 1.4 GHz.

  • GotSka81

    Really?  This is the next “superphone”?  Sounds more like a phone that adds more features that no one wants.  Non-removable battery?  No thanks.  And on a different note, can we stop chasing after ridiculously high megapixel cameras and pursue making the pictures not look like crap?  High megapixels does not mean good pictures.  And finally…VGA still?  Talk about hardware from my first flip phone.

    • It’s the same camera they used in the Razr 😀

    • Anonymous

      So true. My voyager took better pic’s then my OG Droid does. And that was with a 2.3 megapixel camera. My droid has a 5 in it. For shame.

    • Your’re right. High megapixels is not related directly to outstanding pictures. But when implemented correctly with good software amazing photos are produced. Google “Nokia N8 photo samples”

      • Anonymous

        Those pictures are gorgeous!  I certainly don’t have any problem with higher megapixel cameras, but it’s clear that manufacturers are pursuing higher megapixels so they can claim a higher number than everyone else…most times at the expense of quality.

  • caseyisajim

    I’m waiting for the Motorola St. Helens.

    • The Observer

      Motorola Krakatoa FTW!

    • Anonymous

      The Motorola Vesuvius!

      • Steen Kendle

        I like K2

      • Legoturte92

        Motorolla Eyjafjallajokull

        • Anonymous

          haha…now pronounce it

  • Anonymous

    Same device as the photos by the Droid HD via Pocketnow? Btw, that’s apparently the codename for AT&T version according to a guy at HoFo.

  • digsoreos

    I hear if you “bump” two of these phones together, what’s displayed on one screen is doubled to fit onto both screens simultaneously. Bump two more of these phones together and you’ve got close to a tablet-sized display. /rumor

  • Anonymous

    They should worry about getting the Bionic to market first. Continuing to tease the “next big thing” only paralyzes the consumer that doesn’t want to buy (borderline) obsolescence.

  • 13 megapixels with crap camera phone optics is overkill. It’s putting racing tires on a Ford Focus. The number is big, so it sounds awesome, but all it means is you get really big image files taken with crap optics.

    But as someone else said, non-removable battery, WTF?

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for the new rumor tip. Moto is testing its newest flagship phone before releasing the Bionic? Really boosts my confidence in the Bionic… not.
    The real problem as I see it is thus, it is all about the Blur and not the Android. If these manufacturers ran Android instead of their BS version, I am sure the bugs would be fewer and be released quicker!!

    • digsoreos

      I agree. Remove the Blur and then you would have the interest of most of those willing to pay the costs of an early upgrade. Hence, more money in their pockets, more good-will and loyalty among customers.

    • Ice Cream is supposed to remedy this.  It will allow OEM’s to keep there skin or features and still have the same functionality as stock Android.  Honeycomb currently has no custom skins even when Samsung launches TouchWIZ UX it won’t change the look of it entirely. It will have a little splash of custom UI just like the Transformer from ASUS had.  Thats just an example of how Google is making sure they don’t screw with Honeycomb and Ice Cream is supposed to merge the two and they already said at IO there going to work with the OEM’s to ensure updates and functionality remain the same across the board of all those devices.  We should be glad its not like Windows Phone 7 with its extremely strict UI restrictions. There are some UI’s out there that make it easier for new users to use the devices. Sense being one of them.  If anything, Google should allow two different UI’s on the devices.  an option to have Stock Android or OEM skinned Android while both retaining the same exact features minus the OEM added ones.

  • Funkybeat101

    This sounds like the phone everyone thought was the Bionic. Pics were released a few months back it was said to have 13mp rear camera and vga front facing.

  • LivinFree

    If it comes with a non-removable battery they can keep it. Dumbest thing on planet earth to do. Specially seeing as they can’t get decent battery life out of a smartphoen running LTE. That said I want an option to be able to swap batteries if need be. Many time folks are not near or around a charger so this idea is ABSOLUTELY terrible.

  • Bib

    Toshiba HD screen, 2gb ram, 2ghz tegra 3 quad core. Simple, just do it.

  • digsoreos

    At last, the death knell rings for that oh-so-helpful bit of tech support advice: “Have you tried a battery pull?” 

  • Zebra

    So it’s basically the Bionic with [I’m guessing] slightly better hardware and an improved form factor, at the major sacrifice of no battery access? I’ll pass. Give me the Bionic and then an Ice Cream sandwich phone next year.

  • chmcclellan

    Could this be the 2 GHz phone Sanjay referenced for 2010 release?  If it has nfc and 4g it could compete with the nexus prime.

    • Zach

      No he was just confused and thought 1Ghz dual core meant 2Ghz.

  • Sickofwaitingforthebionic

    I bet its the original targa (before the bionic was changed to targa)  

  • Zach

    Thought Winston25(on the howard forums) said this wasn’t a Verizon phone and someone who has it says it’s a AT&T phone, Dinara that is.

  • Anonymous

    I’m pretty sure this is for AT&T, not Verizon. 

  • Bullet Tooth Tony

    There’s really nothing “super” about these rumored specs… A VGA camera? 3.3mp front-facer or bust… 3.3 is 1080p video recording… 13mp back camera?  You’d be better off with carrying around an LG Dare for pictures with how poor the sensors are that Moto uses… if we’re going to throw around the “super” tag, it should at least be top of the line in every respect when it drops.  So far, it’s not even close.

    • Anonymous

      Amen to that. Moto cam sensors suck hard.

  • Anonymous

    A 13MP cam packed into a tiny cameraphone sensor makes me wary…there’s no way it’ll be good quality unless they increase the size of the sensor also, and considering it’s supposed to be thinner than the Bionic, which isn’t thick to start with.

  • Illegitimi non Carborundum

    You think they would wait until post-Bionic so we all jump on the Bionic and then get device envy and buy the new beast come winter…

  • Anonymous

    All I want for Christmas is a Super Device that has pure Google, with next years technology in it. Oh and no Bloatware and make the GS2 look likes it’s standing still. 😛

    • Rich Floresjr

      I’m with you on that.

    • Anonymous

      Yes, Moto has yet to give us another phone that has come even remotely close to what the original Droid did for Android and VZW. They tried everything except what made the original Droid the go-to Android phone of its time.

  • Vaporware.

  • Teng247

    non removable battery?  WTF

    • Anonymous

      Thats the thing that scares me…

    • Seriously? Removing your battery is one of the most overhyped “features” on a smartphone. 

      • Anonymous

        Not really. You can have extras, an extended battery, and have the battery pull option if something goes wrong.

        What if I am installing a ROM and it freezes? No more Bionic for you. 

      • Stephen

        Completely disagree.  Putting an extended battery in my phone was the best purchase I have made in a while.  Unless the phone gets 2 full days of use out of the box like my current phone then having a non-removable battery would be a non-starter for me.

      • No.

        Like hell it is- the option of using extended batteries and swapping out spent batteries is HUGE for me and has saved my bacon more times than I can count.

      • 1loudLS

        when the worse happens and you spill something on your phone, taking the battery out right away is the number one thing you can do to increase the chances of your phone surviving.

  • I want the dam Bionic to be released. I have had my upgraded since aug of 2010. Why won’t it drop already. GEEZ!!

    • Zebra

      At this point you could have used your upgrade then and had another now. It’s a shame the annual upgrade was discontinued. 

  • Anonymous

    Non-removable battery is worrisome… I like my ability to remove and/or replace batteries on the fly when needed – esp when your device locks for w/e reason and it needs a good battery pull. AND there goes the EXTENDED BATTERY and EXTRA BATTERY sales for the crowd that feeds on those. Just seems… dumb. But hey, “DUMB” has been the definition of Motorola for how long now? Yeah. Carry on.

    • I hope that Apple hasn’t patented non-removable batteries or Moto may get sued!  /sarcasm

      • Tesseract 3


    • TheAndroid1

      As long as it gets me through the day i couldn’t care less.  The inability to do a battery pull worries me though.  Plus, if the back wasn’t removable, would they still put in a micro sd slot on the side of the phone or lose it altogether?

      • they would have a hard reset procedure if there is no battery….ex xoom if you press vol up and power it hard resets it…if you ever get stuck

        • Anonymous

          Same thing with the Asus Transformer. They’d probably just put the card slot on the side, I can’t imaging them doing away with MicroSD cards.

          • hkklife

            Why not? Samsung’s Nesus S has done away with microSD support already and several Honeycomb tablets do not have slots (LG’s tablet and the Galaxy Tab 10.1 come immediately to mind). Plus, Honeycomb doesn’t officially support removable storage unless it’s 3.2 and Moto Xoom 3G users are still awaiting their updates.

            SD-less. No, I think Google is gradually moving to an Apple-like, unexpandable storage future, maybe as soon as Ice Cream or the “J” era.

          • Anonymous

            Untrue, My Asus Transformer came with Honeycomb 3.0 and it has MicroSD card support, The Xoom was just lagging behind with support for some reason. Just because a few devices don’t have support for it doesn’t mean its going to be the future.

  • What’s the Bionic again? 🙂

  • What’s the Bionic again? 🙂

  • Anonymous

    I paid $32.67 for a XBOX 360 and my mom got a 17 inch Toshiba laptop for $94.83 being delivered to our house tomorrow by FedEX. I will never again pay expensive retail prices at stores. I even sold a 46 inch HDTV to my boss for $650 and it only cost me $52.78 to get. Here is the website we using to get all this stuff, GrabPenny.com

  • I will not be using my upgrade until i get a phone with an nfc chip, I see this as becoming a big thing and will not be left behind. 😀

  • Kevoskee

    Hypebeastin is back huh? Once the Bionic drops finally and I see pictures of this device later this year, then I will be interested.

  • Ed

    I heard Dinara was for AT&T

  • 13MP?!? Are they shooting billboards with that thing? 

    • This is not a phone, its a camera that makes phone calls 😉
      When will Nikon make a phone???

    • tbaybe

      considering, the only camera i use is my phone… higher end cameras are a plus to me! 

      • Dave

        Sadly, more pixels does not necessarily equate to improved image quality.

    • Anonymous

      EH, billboards are printed at under 30 dpi.

  • Whaaaaaa?! A 13MP camera?? That’s ridiculous. 

  • I think its safe to say someone has ICS (besides Google).  😉

  • Dash Speeds

    So, if the planned release is winter we should expect it roughly by 2013?

    • Dash Speeds

      I’m sick the of waiting game anyway, the OG was outdated within months and its served me pretty well.

      • Anonymous

        Agreed, I bought mine when it was arguably already outdated(X was out already I think), and I’m still loving it.  It’s been running kinda crappy lately, but Trey of MIUI convinced me in the comments the other day to try his port.  We will see if that works.

        • cmbdds

          I just installed the latest MIUI on my wife’s OG and it runs pretty well, although not as well as the latest Project Elite (which was on it previously).  MIUI is definitely the pretties ROM out there, though, and has some great features.

          • Yte13

            Do you know of a way to get the MIUI Camera on Project Elite? I tried Miui but didnt like it.

      • Jason Frasier

        I tried MIUI but for some reason it just didn’t get along with my phone.  I decided to try Liquid Gingerbread and it is easily the best I’ve seen since Project Elite.

    • Tesseract 3


      I don’t even want it though, the lack of a removable battery is a complete deal breaker for me. 

      • John

        As stable as some android OS builds are (well, mainly custom roms), a battery pull is still required sometimes.  My phone will go a month without issue, but every now and then I still need to pull the battery when 3g stops working, or the browser freezes or something.

        • Anonymous

          i’m sure someone has already said something to this effect, but even with my D2, if i’m using my phone heavily during the day all day, the battery doesn’t last.  i always carry a spare in my purse.  i can’t imagine what a beast like this would do to battery life, so i would hope there would be an ability to do SOMETHING under those circumstances.  as for freezes, if i go with the bionic, i am going to miss my ability to “shift+alt+del” on my physical keyboard.  i haven’t had a need to pull my battery in many many months for any reason other than it being drained.

        • I’m sure it will have some way to reset without a battery pull.  But like apple, without having to create a battery dock into the phone you effectively create more space for a bigger battery which in turn equals better battery life.

    • Whiteandnerdy55

      Considering a 2 GHz phone was supposed to be out by the end of 2010, I don’t know if we can ever expect a rumored release from Moto…

      Anyone remember this story?

      • Anonymous

        That was the Atrix which got pushed back a month and Jha meant a phone with dual 1 GHz cores, thus he said 2 GHz incorrectly.

        • Imanjja

          2 ghz should come with solar power panels

      • Yep-ThatWouldBeAwesome

        I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t even want a 2ghz phone. Can you imagine how spectacularly terrible the battery life would be?

  • Anonymous

    Sounds similar to the next Nexus specs.

  • Sean

    see this July 2012.

  • Anonymous

    Pass. Any news from HTC or Samsung coming up with a Superphone that will actually be released?

    • so this is probably the “motorola slimline” that was teased a month or so back