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Details on DROID Bionic Delay, Launching at Same Time as 4G LTE on XOOM

We just got off the Motorola Q1 earnings call and while the amount of money these corporations make isn’t our thing, we do listen in to see if they drop any hints at future phones or tablets.  With Moto being the leader in all things “DROID”, this is one we didn’t want to miss especially with all of the Bionic delay talk floating around these parts.  And sure enough, we got a bunch of info that will help paint the Moto timeline for the next 3-4 months, including more details on why the Bionic was delayed and when the XOOM will see 4G LTE.     

On the new DROID Bionic:

Question:  Does the push out of the Bionic impact the product lineup for the backend of the year or does the Bionic overlap other products you planned to put out in Q3?

Motorola (Sanjay):  As we saw that that product (original Bionic) was pushing out a little bit, we worked with our partners at Verizon Wireless and re-featured the device and we believe that the result of it, we will have a much better device.  We had another device which was a potentially…which had different features than…and we brought in some of the features to deliver what we consider to be a higher feature device that will launch as we go forward into the summer.

Follow-up question:  Can you say anything about what the features would be?

Motorola (Sanjay):  My anticipation is that it will be an important device for us.

Bionic delay due to 4G issues – Launching at same time as 4G on XOOM:

Question:  What kind of precipitated the Bionic delay – your side or the Verizon side?  And on the XOOM, the 4G, is that kind of the timing over the summer that you had talked about before?  Is it possible that the XOOM and the Bionic – does the timing of 4G on the XOOM have anything to do with the change in plan of the Bionic or completely different issues?

Motorola (Sanjay):  They are related and it is to do with the timing of 4G for us. That is the issue that delayed us.  We are engaged with all of the providers in the industry and we feel very comfortable with the fast forward here.  We believe that we will launch both devices with 4G capabilities in the summer here.

Follow-up question:  So once you sell one, you sell the other and they both come out at the same time?

Motorola (Sanjay):  You got it.

More on the Bionic delay – Hardware or software issue?:

Question:  On the delay of the Bionic was it a hardware chip side issue or software issue or a response to the competitive landscape?

Motorola (Sanjay):  It was really a software issue of getting the performance to a place that both ourselves and our partner Verizon Wireless were comfortable launching the device. And as you understand there is a great deal of complexity in launching any new technology like this and that was probably the main matter at heart here.

On Motorola XOOM sales:

Question:  You guys said that you shipped over 250,00 units – can you talk about how many you sold through and what the inventory situation looks like in the channel?

Motorola (Mark):  We shipped over 250,000 in the quarter – with respect to the sellout, the sellout was good.  We had shipped that product late in February, we only had about 5-6 weeks of sell through opportunity there, but we’re pleased with levels of stock and channel at the end of the quarter as well as what we’ve seen through this earnings call.

And a quick recap:

The original Bionic was delayed because it was having 4G LTE issues, but also because Motorola had another device with better specs that it decided to sample from.  The device will launch this summer along with 4G on the XOOM.  Oh, and the XOOM sold just fine and is still selling just fine.

Thoughts?

  • http://www.tonerline.co.uk/ Toner catridges

    Wow, I have just now tested DROID Bionic and it is great. I like what you said here about it. Thank you for posting and please do not stop writing article like this one.  

  • Arthur

    http://limitedcell.com/Droid/Bionic/droidbionic.png

    Here’s a bionic-esque wallpaper in case anyones looking.

  • Arthur

    http://limitedcell.com/Droid/Bionic/droidbionic.png

    Here’s a bionic-esque wallpaper in case anyones looking.

  • Socom149

    1900 battery, 12 mp camera, one gig of RAM and Targa bodystyle is my wish list

  • Anonymous

    … does Sanjay know anything about a bootloader?

  • http://www.agrstech.com Zephaniah

    Hella off topic, but since the IRC channel is gone I need to ask here. I have a rooted Droid 2. I was flashing back to the stock rom (first backup you ever make) form HoneyComb themed Liberty ROM. After restore, the phone booted and became stuck at boot logo (which I changed through Liberty to the Droid Life logo). Hard reset does NOT work: E:cant open /cache/recover/command

    Is their a fix, or do I have a very expensive paper weight? If its a brick, where can I get a DX for about $180?

    • http://twitter.com/IFragU Tom Clemente

      i don’t see a problem. who WOULDN’T want to stare at the droid-life logo all day!

      • http://www.agrstech.com Zephaniah

        As much as I love the logo, I kind of need to make some calls.

  • ras

    Do all android phones have those unremovable apps or ads like on the thunderbolt? I hear that they’re a huge reason the t-bolt’s battery runs out so quickly. thanks.

    • DaWolf85

      …and this is why you root and remove them *rolleyes*

  • Mr.Joe

    Give me a locked bootloader baby!

    I want to read more and more complaints!

  • Mr.Joe

    Let’s play a game!

    Every time you read the phrase “unlock bootloader” take a drink.

    You’ll be drunk before you’re done.

  • Xoomnation

    This is exactly the kind of crap I was expecting…these people are ignoring the fact that technology like the Xoom becomes obsolite quicker than you can flush a toilet. By the time Motorola is able to perform this upgrade nvidia will be shipping the quad core tegra based tablets and most of us would have lost interest in sending our Xooms off for a then obsolite 4g upgrade. I think it is a safe assumption to say that the price we paid for these 3g Xooms was based on this now illusive 4g upgrade and a functinal SD slot among other things…I think Motorola needs to seriously begin consideration of a rebate to customers not interested in waiting beyond May for this would be, day late dollar short, 4G/SD update…we were promissed delivery by late May and that is what we agreed to. we are now well into breach of contract teritory. Motorola, can you say “CLASS ACTION”…

  • Taylor

    Unlock the bootloader or I’m not interested.

  • Emeraldjun

    The Bionic better blow us away, in case it those a Thunderbolt.

  • Gmen

    Was the atrix the last moto phone launched months ago? Htc has launched or is launching shortly: htc inspire 4g, htc 3d, htc incredible 2, htc sensation and I’m sure I’m missing some. And now bionic is delayed… Does moto have like 3 engineers, 2 assembly workers? What gives

    • Anonymous

      the other way around. just 2 engineers. one is Sanjay

    • http://profiles.google.com/booboolala2000 Patrick Crumpler

      It would appear that MOTO doesnt do well with LTE. Love my XOOM on WiFi, but VZW’s 3g sucks and slows this thing way down.

  • Ken

    The rumor mill has it that the tegra 2 chip didn’t play nice with the LTE radio and they couldn’t fix it, so they scrapped the current device and decided to release the Targa under the Bionic name.

  • http://twitter.com/kaiyel1 Kyle Miller

    FLUCK this phone. Give me a Galaxy II!

    • Steve Hillshire

      After having issues with the OG Droid, I’m with ya on this. I think I’m done with Moto. I personally thought the Bionic’s styling was ok. Everything about that phone was PERFECT except it didn’t have NFC which I think is going to start taking off before I’m ready for another phone. This delay is telling me they can’t get their s**t together though. Freakin Apple is going to come along with a dual core LTE device next year and find a way to get 2 days out of the battery….how can they get such life out of their batteries? I mean really, if they can do it, why can’t others who have done this stuff for years beyond them get it right?

  • Lestroisneon

    There exists an eerie parallel between the rise and fall of Motorola and the rise and fall of Sharon Stone. Both started out as tired never-quite-would’ve-been’s and then both got the idea to open their legs to the world and WHOOSH!, in came the love and praise and adulation. Problem is, all of that love and adulation went to their heads and they started to believe people liked them for ‘who they are’ so they, subsequently, closed their legs to the world. #NOT WINNING
    Flash forward and both have attempted to staple their faces upward while hanging onto the arms of deep-pocketed suitors. They may try to open their legs again, but no one will care. You can’t trust an old, diseased wh*re.

    • angermeans

      That has got to be the best metaphor to explain motorola and this last year since the droid that i have ever seen lol. Plus 100 sir.

    • Waknatious

      Word.

  • http://twitter.com/ChrisCorp ChristopherCorpening

    I think I’m going to ask again here:

    Should I wait and upgrade my OG Droid to the Bionic? I want to upgrade to a phone that will see many updates and stay up to date with the changing smartphone and technology industry.

    • Andrew

      Why don’t you buy a phone that is fully unlockable and has good developer support so you don’t have to wait around and hope for the manufacturers and carriers to push updates?

    • Andrew

      Why don’t you buy a phone that is fully unlockable and has good developer support so you don’t have to wait around and hope for the manufacturers and carriers to push updates?

    • Anonymous

      Christopher… I was having the same battle that you’re having, to the T. So don’t feel alone. I’m a SHARE HOLDER in Motorola Mobility and gave up on the waiting game. Why not buy a Thunderbolt 4 months before the Motorola equivalent comes out, then have the opportunity 4 months earlier the next go round to upgrade your device???? The TBolt is leaps and bounds faster, sturdier, sexier, limber (by limber I mean flexible) than the OG Droid. I loved my baby DROID, but it was time for an upgrade, and MOTO didn’t deliver as promised. What happens if you don’t deliver at your job? At mine…. i lose out. So that’s what MOTO has done. If they can actually produce a product to DOMINATE the Thunderbolt, then I’ll just save an extra $10 a month and add a line. No big deal. Sooo… if you’re having the internal battle as to whether or not to wait, then don’t torment yourself. Just upgrade now, and put yourself that much more ahead of the game next year when we’re talking about the DROID Orgasmic. Sincerely… Adam

  • Anonymous

    The XOOM news certainly sucks, but sometimes I don’t think Sanjay knows what’s going on in his own company. After all, he also said the XOOM was delayed, and then it launched on time.

    I was really hoping for my LTE upgrade before my trip, but oh well.

  • tanknspank

    When I hear that the Bionic had some improvements, I would guess on it being the laptop dock and 1GB Ram split between the real os and android like on the Atrix, and nothing more.

  • tanknspank

    When I hear that the Bionic had some improvements, I would guess on it being the laptop dock and 1GB Ram split between the real os and android like on the Atrix, and nothing more.

  • Mr Blurryfingaz

    I think moto knows exactly what their doing. Other companies are coming with better devices then the original bionic. So moto went back to make it smarter better faster stronger. The six million dollar phone so to speak. Pun intended. For those who are wet behind the ears. On another note. Its amazing how many of you complain and nag like a broad on the rag. If you knew the true potential of any of these devices it might not even matter what you choose to buy. The dev community will help enhance these phones to their full potential. With motos unlock/lock bootloader strategy the bionic with be open season for devs to shape as they see fit. The Bionic will be nothing short of its name and will remain verizons flagship device. And for a season will reign over all else with incredible authority. So please have a clue before you start crying like little infants, you might just save some face

    DROID 4 LIFE

    • Steve Hillshire

      Name one phone that is coming soon that kills what we saw for specs on the Bionic please. Just one.

  • Eric

    Kellex,

    Your a complete idiot if you believe half the bs they feed you guys. No company in the world admits fault on delaying a product or says product sales are sh*tty. Come on get with the program don’t treat it us like f*cking 2 year olds.

    • DonnyMilkSteak

      relax bub.

      • Eric

        I’m fine bub.

    • http://profiles.google.com/apostrafee Luke Johnson

      id say that everything they are saying there is true. they arent giving any sort of excuse they are saying that the device didnt launch because it wasnt ready, makes perfect sense to me bs how? though i wish they would have waited to launch the xoom when it was complete(4g, micro sd ready, even adobe for the first week or so) perhaps they are learning

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Travis-Royer/100000358962998 Travis Royer

    Honestly, I was pretty happy with the original specs of the Bionic when it was first announced, and I loved the design of the phone. I’m a little pissed at what they are planning now. I’m all for better hardware tweaks, but the ‘Targa’ design is NOT what I was waiting for. Maybe I’m alone here, I don’t know; but that’s just me.

    • Kamuhl67

      I’m all for a better phone but why can’t they release the Targa and then the bionic or the other way around?
      HelloMoto we want options!

    • M3droid

      I agree with you, the reason why I fell in love with the bionic was due to the design, and the specs of course :)

    • Steve Hillshire

      You are not alone in that assessment of what we saw in the Bionic. I know Kellex says the new design will be worth it but if it looks like that leaked shot of the Targa, I thought that thing looked like crap compared to the Bionic’s design. Looked like a cheap phone from a vending machine. I was totally turned off when I heard of the design change. They had the phone that everyone wanted ever since it was shown off at CES….the one people were calling the phone of the year and then just nix the design? I’m not sure what was running through their heads.

  • Anonymous

    Was the person who posed the second question not a native speaker of English.

    • Aubreyvt

      Good, I was begining to think I needed reading lessons…… again.

    • Aubreyvt

      Good, I was begining to think I needed reading lessons…… again.

  • http://profiles.google.com/ewhitak Eric Whitaker

    I think motorola better make sure this thing is amazing because with the galaxy s2 and the inc2 looking as good as they look motorola is going to get left behind.

    • Ken

      I would agree with you, but Inc2 definitely isn’t LTE and Galaxy S2 most likely won’t be, either.

      Until there’s a dual-core phone WITH LTE, there will be no serious competition to the Bionic on big red if it releases in the summer.

      • Steve Hillshire

        Didn’t the leaked VZW roadmap show the S2 as LTE for May?

  • Anonymous

    my company is making everyone on the corporate plan get one of the current Flash capable phones (death to the iPhone on the corporate account (guess what company i work for ;-) )) by the end of our Q2 (May) so i was hoping for a May Bionic launch.

    what should i get? T-bolt? Inc2? Charge?

    • Rizzidy

      This can’t be a serious question. T-Bolt by far.

    • Ken

      T-bolt is probably your best option out of all of those. Inc2 won’t have LTE and the Charge is overpriced for what you get. Samsung also has been notoriously bad at updating their phones. The fascinate JUST GOT Android 2.2 (froyo) at a time when devices are being upgraded to Android 2.3 (honeycomb)

      • Undergroundwire

        No device has 2.3 yet other than Nexus. Also 2.3 is Gingerbread.

  • Cjreyes666

    Maybe the so famous request to have bootloaders unlock on facebook has something to do with the Bionics delay?

    • Anonymous

      That would be a miracle….lol

  • The Dave

    Translation : In late June, we will bring the hammer down. We have to fix blur and might as well make the whole thing better. In order to cover our butts, we advanced some specs.

    They better hope that hammer is big enough.

  • Anonymous

    Samjay didn’t say No to the competitive part of this question:

    “On the delay of the Bionic was it a hardware chip side issue or software issue or a response to the competitive landscape?”

    I think Moto saw better devices coming out from HTC and the like. In this industry you live and die pretty fast off of your products and if you start going down that road like Moto did last time. HTC might just put Moto back into the Danger Zone again. HTC is knocking on that door to unseat Moto. Moto better rethink the Bionic to make it a better device and it looks like thats what Moto is doing. We will see soon!!!

  • Anonymous

    They should have asked if Motorola was still interested in Android, maybe thats why the delay…they are going to push it back until they get their OS up and going, release it on the “Bionic”……THEN SINK LIKE A SHIP AND CLAIM BANKRUPTCY …….while Android continues to crush the competition!

    WE SHALL WAIT AND SEE…..

  • Anonymous

    Translation: We can’t get our hardware and software working together properly on LTE like HTC has done. Need more time, but we’ll throw in a few minor tweaks to make it look like we did this to improve the device

    • DanSke

      Pretty much. Thats what they get for bringing a half baked product to CES. Don’t show if if you don’t got it.

    • L55

      HTC is also far from perfecting their LTE.

      • DanSke

        *Looks down at Thunderbolt* Uhhh, I see otherwise…

        • chaoscentral

          How’s that battery treating ya?

          • DanSke

            Its great actually. If more people did a little more tweaking than bitching then they could get 10-15 hours like I have been.

          • http://profiles.google.com/jlperry54 John Perry

            Yeah, I mean I sometimes only get about 6-8 hours of battery life, but that’s only when I play games and text non stop. With normal usage I get about double that.

          • DanSke

            Thank you. Some people just want to be haters. Getting more than 10 on the TBolt is not that hard, but they have to bring in these distant stories…..Oh my mom’s friends sister owns one and blah blah blah.

          • Own3d

            Why you mad? it’s the internet, who cares what someone else thinks. This clown

          • Mr.Joe

            I don’t care what you think IRL or online.

            Unless you’re mad at the bootloaders. Then give it to me baby!

          • Own3d

            Why you mad? it’s the internet, who cares what someone else thinks. This clown

          • Own3d

            Why you mad? it’s the internet, who cares what someone else thinks. This clown

          • Adam Metzner

            BS, I work with 3 people that tweek the t-bolt the best it can. Dont get me wrong that phone is sweet, but 10-15? I think not. With normal use and about 2 hours of the day being hard use they are just pressing 8. At the end of the day they are running to plug it into the car.

          • DanSke

            Oh, you work with people that tweek the TBolt? Looks like you have grade A first hand experience. Guess what, I own one. So take your BS and shove it. I get 10-15 with normal use. You wanna prove me wrong then buy one and come back and tell me your song and dance.

          • http://twitter.com/jbernard703 Jeff Bernard

            Are you using LTE?

          • Steve Hillshire

            Come on man, reviews and posts all over the net talk about the T-Bolt being lucky to make it to 2pm in the afternoon with any use. Sure, you can take it to work and let it sit and maybe make it 10 hours, but that isn’t what I call average use of a smart phone. I’m all about bragging but if you “tweak” the thing until its almost useless, then what good is it?

          • Undergroundwire

            I use the Thunderbolt with LTE on. Two Gmail accounts, an Exchange account that’s on push, I’m either on my Facebook, Twitter, web, or phone on my 6, 10 min smoke breaks. In that 10 hour period with no charge’, I have 55% battery left when I put in the charger driving home.

            If you can’t get a full days worth, you’re an idiot. Go buy an iPhone.

          • Socom149

            The battery is tiny and it has crappy battery life no opinion or argument necessary.

          • Undergroundwire

            I use the Thunderbolt with LTE on. Two Gmail accounts, an Exchange account that’s on push, I’m either on my Facebook, Twitter, web, or phone on my 6, 10 min smoke breaks. In that 10 hour period with no charge’, I have 55% battery left when I put in the charger driving home.

            If you can’t get a full days worth, you’re an idiot. Go buy an iPhone.

          • DaWolf85

            Reviews & Posts ≠ Experience.

          • LionStone

            I guess the “Like” button only works whens it wants to….so I’ll just type it- Like!

          • Datbizzybone

            Ill be posting a screenshot of my 20 hours without charge soon.

          • DanSke

            Oh, you work with people that tweek the TBolt? Looks like you have grade A first hand experience. Guess what, I own one. So take your BS and shove it. I get 10-15 with normal use. You wanna prove me wrong then buy one and come back and tell me your song and dance.

          • angermeans

            I have to say I agree. Its funny that people say, “hows the battery treating ya?” But have never even used the thunderbolt. I am gettinf great battery life after a few tweaks and i have yet to see a launch of an android phone where droves of people haven’t bitched about the battery life. LTE is what 7 to 10 times faster than 3G but we are only seeing it be a little worse on our battery. I’d say that’s a great trade off.

          • Anonymous

            There’s no denying the t-bolt has bad battery life relative to most other android phones.

          • Socom149

            True I sell/buy a lot of phone on Craigslist, I just got a incredible hardly used with the same battery as the thunderbolt and its dying 24/7 can’t imagine having the thunderbolt without the extended battery. I miss my Droid x

    • Xoomnation

      If they can’t fix it, then they should have absolutely no problems letting the community fix it…GIVE US THE DAMN KEYS…

    • Anonymous

      Yeah and they did it with year old hardware.

  • Porschephile2k3

    If they gave the Bionic global capabilities then I’m really sold!

  • http://AndroidTaskForce.com Chris Gustafson

    So ass kicking phone in late June?

    Thats what i saw.

  • Rizzidy

    F Motorola

    • Anonymous

      Ahhh I miss the days of the OG Droid Moto was doing great, Now they are on the Dark Side of the Force LOL

      • Monkeyman

        They are making iPhones?

        • Anonymous

          No, but it’s close enough LMAO :P

      • http://twitter.com/jbernard703 Jeff Bernard

        Are you members of the Rebel Alliance scared yet? For the first time since Android was released they lost U.S. market share. Down 3 points since winter, meanwhile Apple is up 9 points. Imagine what those numbers will be once those millions of t-mobile customers have access to the iPhone. Trollololololol….

        • Anonymous

          You seem to waste an awful lot of time trolling this site. Those are the actions of someone who’s desperate.

          • EC8CH

            I think someone needs to “welcome him to the party pal” if you know what I mean.

          • http://twitter.com/jbernard703 Jeff Bernard

            Yes i spend about 10-15 mins per day about 5 days a week on this site. So according to my math that is roughly 1 hour per week. So while i don’t consider that amount of time to be “an awful lot” maybe you do. However, this begs the question why you spend nearly the same amount of time replying to all of my comments. As for being desperate, I am not quite sure what i am desperate about. Perhaps I am desperate about my younger, hot Brazilian girlfriend or the fact that i don’t live with my parents. Who knows? Thanks for playing!

          • jtr-1

            lulz@troll. +1

          • Datbizzybone

            On this thread i’ve seen posts by you 12 hours ago, 10 hours ago, 1 hour ago.. seems like a awful lot lol.

          • Anonymous

            dude you have a Brazilian gf? me too :]

          • Anonymous

            You have 485 comments of trolling on Droid life, far more than any other site using disqus. Of those, I’ve responded to maybe 20. Even if you only spend 10-15 minutes per day (which I doubt) that’s still over an hour of wasted time per week being a general assclown and fanboy, congradulations.

        • Anonymous

          Jeff, stop the dreaming and let the little boyl go!!! Android has and will
          keep taking over the market share. That’s already been proven. You like to
          refer to your little Apple fan boy stats that somehow is different from the
          rest of the stats that shows Apple losing ground Hmmmm

          Time for you to hit the Genius Bar and get a life :P

  • )v(urphy

    If this phone isn’t of Epic proportions, then I’m done with Moto.

    • angermeans

      If it isn’t unlocked then I am remaining to be done with moto. I was hoping that the Xoom would do great and show moto the error of their ways but for some reason it seems moto still has their head up their ass. I love the Xoom but i bought it knowing it would be the last (and first since I dropped moto last year) unlocked, moto product I would buy. I am loving it just like i loved my droid. Just give us a choice don’t make it for us.

  • Anonymous

    Translation:

    We’re not ready for LTE, but we’ve perfected our bullsh!t talking points.

    • Anonymous

      LOL so true, don’t bring a knife to a gun fight and expect to scare anyone because you name is Motorola. The competition smells blood in the water and Motorolo has “Soldout” with lockedbootloaders and that horrible Blur

      Redeem yourself MotoYeah, We’re looking at you Moto!!!!

  • http://profiles.google.com/ewhitak Eric Whitaker

    Corporate talk is so hard to sift through to actually find out what they are trying to say.

    • Anonymous

      they talk a lot without really saying anything

      • http://profiles.google.com/ewhitak Eric Whitaker

        Exactly I was sitting here reading and rereading and my head hurt worse reading this than when I try to do my engineering HW.

    • palomosan

      It’s more like, the Bionic wasn’t good enough to compete with the competition, we’re going to make it better.

      Hopefully they’ll give the phone the same specs or better than the Atrix.

  • Raptor007

    Meh, so they are making the “early adopters (suckers) wait for the XOOM to get 4G until “summer” which is a really wide window of time between June and September. NOT what I call exciting if you have a XOOM.

    Since they can’t get the 4G Bionic out, why no mention of other Droid related phone updates, aka the Droid X2 which would be a welcome product for those who a) don’t care about 4G or b) won’t ever see 4G and c) want a Dual Core Tegra2 w/ qHD NOW.

    • Undergroundwire

      My Xoom has 4G. It’s called tethering your Thunderbolt. Ha!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rahiem-Graham/100000489273746 Rahiem Graham

    Talk about evasiveness on some of those questions.

  • Anonymous

    Sounds like Motorola has some serious plans for the Bionic. This summer is going to be big with Motorola. Hopefully they unlock the boot loaders by that time. This is exciting. :)

    • http://twitter.com/jbernard703 Jeff Bernard

      Your right this is a huge summer for Motorola Mobility….they will be filing for bankruptcy.

      • TD

        “net revenues of $3 billion. That’s up 22 percent from this time last year, which brought losses down to $.27 per share — much nicer than the $.72 in Q1 2010. Mobile device revenues were up 30 percent and 9.1 million total mobile devices were sold, of those almost half (4.1 million) were smartphones.” Oh yeah they’re done…..:-p

        • http://twitter.com/jbernard703 Jeff Bernard

          this website isn’t fun because the people who respond to me have no clue what they are talking about. revenue is not the same thing as profit. motorola mobility lost 89 million dollars in the 1st quarter. their revenue could be 100 gazillion dollars and it wouldn’t mean jack if they lost money.

          • Anonymous

            Puerile buffoon.

          • jtr-1

            Companies last while losing money. Can’t do it for too long, but they do. I wanna know how ;)

    • angermeans

      I agree this locked bootloader stuff has finally come to a head. They need to drop it and i think they know it as well. The bionic is simple, unlocked bootloaders and it will be a great device, locked up they will still sell well but HTC will continue to dominate. They need to stop thinking like motorola and that their shit doesn’t stink. They forgot so quickly after the og droid where they really were. I just don’t understand what they are attempting to accomplish. This is android and “open” is what sold millions’of droids November 2009 not locked down phnes like the iphone.

      • Anonymous

        HTC is locking their phones down as well, your bias has blinded you.

        • DaWolf85

          But of course, nobody wants to remember that because Moto did it first.

          • Anonymous

            As far as I can tell I still cant have a custom rom on my Droid X, I can on my thunderbolt

          • Anonymous

            Uh, yes you can. You just can’t have a custom kernel.

    • angermeans

      I agree this locked bootloader stuff has finally come to a head. They need to drop it and i think they know it as well. The bionic is simple, unlocked bootloaders and it will be a great device, locked up they will still sell well but HTC will continue to dominate. They need to stop thinking like motorola and that their shit doesn’t stink. They forgot so quickly after the og droid where they really were. I just don’t understand what they are attempting to accomplish. This is android and “open” is what sold millions’of droids November 2009 not locked down phnes like the iphone.

  • Anonymous

    Wow FIrst :)

    • Anonymous

      are you that bad at 69 that you have to make it your username? :P
      first to suck one. :P

    • L55

      Wow loser :)