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VoLTE and HD Voice Arrive at Verizon in “Coming Weeks”

This morning, Verizon announced that it is almost ready to finally unleash VoLTE (voice-over-LTE) and HD Voice upon its customers. In fact, customers should expect to begin using VoLTE and HD Voice “in the coming weeks,” as opposed to months. Verizon didn’t mention as much in their press release, but this almost seems early. Back in May, they announced that both services would be here in the “next few months” or “later this year,” leaving us to wonder if that meant end of summer or early winter. Clearly, they meant summer. 

So what is HD Voice and VoLTE, and how can you use it? All of the details aren’t completely available yet, but we do know a few things. First of all, VoLTE and HD Voice work side-by-side together for the most part. Voice-over-LTE allows you to place high-definition, better-sounding calls (HD Voice) over your data connection, but also quickly jump on or off of a video chat with the person on the other end, as well.

Verizon is calling this first attempt at HD Voice calls “Advanced Calling 1.0,” which is a fancy way of saying that we are about to see what it’s like to seamlessly experience both HD Voice and video calls as if they were a native part of your regular calling experience. Yes, your dialer will soon have a video option.

We should point out that in order for you to use VoLTE and place HD Voice calls you will need to be in a Verizon 4G LTE area and make sure that both parties are using a VoLTE-enabled phone. VoLTE will be enabled on devices through software updates once the service is live.

Verizon is still expecting to launch their VoLTE and HD Voice services nationwide.

Update:  A number of readers asked how Verizon would treat HD Voice calls and if they would count towards data or minutes. The short answer – they will be treated just like traditional calls, according to Verizon.

Video Calling 1

Via:  Verizon
  • Stormprobe

    Will I be able to make HD Voice calls to someone on another network, like AT&T, or are these going to be Verizon to Verizon only calls?

  • Trueblue711

    I’m waiting for the announcement that being on a MORE everything plan is required for VoLTE.

  • Spider210

    Voice over lte will be billed as minutes. BAU .the video portion will be billed at 6-8mb per minute

  • droidrazredge

    I’ll probably be getting a message from a Verizon Customer Service Rep in the coming weeks informing me that new features are coming to Verizon and to take advantage I’ll need to upgrade my plan because VoLTE and HD Voice will not compatible and supported with my current unlimited data plan. /s

  • Rambocombo

    This is why GSM based Tmo and ATT will continue to have an advantage for the time being.

    ” critically for Verizon’s VoLTE service, if a customer is not on a call and the phone is in the idle state and drops out of LTE coverage, the phone will automatically switch over to CDMA 1X voice service. However, if a customer is on a VoLTE call and drops out of LTE coverage, the call will disconnect.

    In contrast, AT&T noted in a statement to FierceWireless that “if a customer starts a call on VoLTE and moves outside the VoLTE coverage area, the call automatically switches to our standard voice service.” Similarly, T-Mobile noted that customers using VoLTE “do not have to worry about dropping calls if they leave a LTE area,” because the carrier uses Enhanced Single Radio Voice Call Continuity (eSRVCC) to ensure “the smooth mobility between our various radio layers.”

    • Stormprobe

      On AT&T and T-Mobile, what happens if someone starts a call in CDMA 1X and then moves to a VoLTE area? Do they stay in the CDMA1X call or do they transition to the higher quality VoLTE?

      • Rambocombo

        On both Att and tmobile they use HSDPA+ voice and data no CDMA 1x. I’m assuming 3g initiated calls will stay that way however their advantage is not loosing a votle initiated lte call and bieng able to stay on the call if they drop down to even And edge area. Verizon will have to walk a fine line by basically offering a less interfrated volte experience compared to their gsm competitors. Lte is gsm based hence (lte stands for long term evolution).

  • Mickey A Valentine

    Dat data overage doe

  • duke69111

    Ah, something else to slow down the network even more in my area. Their network is down to 4 Mbps in downtown Wichita.

  • Alfredo Manuel Gonzalez II

    Can you use this with WiFi?

    • Justtyn Hutcheson

      Wifi calling and VoLTE are different systems. Verizon has yet to state one way or another whether they are planning on implementing this feature.

  • Gfame103

    Does this mean we will see a Verizon Nexus now?

  • Sam

    How would they count that data? is that free or part of the data package? I still have unlimited but who knows how long will i have it.

  • Dan

    meh, i’d rather have wifi calling

  • Kanaga Deepan N

    With NO unlimited data plan, now even voice calls are going to use the limited data pack..

    • HarvesterX

      Have you even read? Oh wait maybe you were the first to reply or something. Voice calls aren’t counted ad data but as phone calls. Video chatting will count towards data

  • Ssl0408

    IPhone already has this…

    • monkeybutts

      iPhone has Facetime audio, not VoLTE. That would be like saying a call from Skype is the same thing as a regular phone call.

  • RiceCake

    Works great if your outside. Go into a building and good luck. I love having verizon and having to stand next to a window or stand outside to make and recieve calls. Premium service right there

    • skinja99

      VZWs spectrum is actually the the lower frequency of any major carrier. Lower Frequency means it will penetrate buildings better, assuming everything else is equal like distance to tower, terrain, etc.

      Are you on a Samsung phone. Moto and plastic HTCs seem to have the strongest signal strengths.

  • M3D1T8R

    Cool so that means V is going to start giving people reasonable data rates now, right? Since their current plans mostly include unlimited talk and text, they’ll have to include say 30GB of data a month just to cover the voice/video calling. Right?
    Yeah I’m not holding my breath.

    • Suicide_Note

      For the umpteenth time, VoLTE calls will NOT be counted as data usage and therefore will NOT have affect your monthly data allowance. They will be billed as minutes. If you have a plan with 500 minutes and 2 GB of data per month and make a 10 minute VoLTE call at the beginning of the billing cycle, you’ll have 2 GB of data left, and 490 minutes of talk. Follow me so far?

      • M3D1T8R

        Yeah I should have read the comments before commenting. But still, this is dumb. Just another way for Verizon to control everything. Why not just chargw a reasonable amount like $0.50 per GB and be done with it? Because that would make too much sense. This way they can continue to overcharge people for different things.
        Also what does this mean for using LTE only devices?
        The whole point of volte is so we can get off of V’s godawful CDMA device limitation and be free to buy the phones we want.

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          Calls being billed in minutes makes sense to even the simplest user. Trying to tell someone how many more minutes they have left in their data plan would be incredibly confusing, especially since the call uses a variable bitrate rather than a constant one, so it would only be “kinda sorta accurate”. That said, I wouldn’t mind seeing more reasonable data prices, but the reason they are so high in the first place is to encourage users to stay off mobile data in the first place.

          The whole point of VoLTE is to get us off CDMA so it can be refarmed to LTE-A and make them more money. The device lock-in will continue, as the only band they use with free and open use requirements is Band 13 (the infamous Block C). No such restrictions on their current Band 4 (which is why you can’t get Verizon on a Nexus 5 in an XLTE area despite supporting that band), nor the new 850/1900 MHz bands that CDMA would free up (not sure of the numbers off the top of my head). Once that is fully deployed, the Block C will likely be sold, especially if they can manage to pick up the 600 MHz bands next year for their eventual 5G deployment.

  • mcdonsco

    The comments here are a bit; screwy…this is Verizon we’re talking about, a company that has built their reputation on the reliability of their voice network (and as of late, reliability and coverage of the data side as well). I somehow doubt volte, due to congestion or throttling as many commenters are saying, will lead to poor call quality.

    For them to roll something out that’s not 100% ready to go and risk their reputation would be insane and while yes, I know, Verizon does stupid stuff (in OUR view) all the time, this, would not be one of them.

    I also seriously doubt it would count toward your data use.

    • Ace

      Just talked my brother in law who is a verizon cell tech. He has been testing it for months and he says it is really bad so far. Poor quality. This coming from someone who is a verizon apologist.

  • HotRodJohnson

    Guess I might hold on to unlimited just a bit longer and see how this pans out.

    • HarvesterX

      Why WOULDN’T you keep your ULD unless you planned on not using a cell phone again period

      • HotRodJohnson

        Verizon doesn’t have the greatest choices of phones and it’s expensive.

  • ToddAwesome

    Because I didn’t accidentally hit the video button often enough in a Hangout, now I can do it while on a phone call!

  • Tony Byatt

    If they take the T-Mobile music streaming route with their VoLTE then good…

    But if not, fail…

    • Justtyn Hutcheson

      The press release states that VoLTE calls will be billed as “minutes” not “data”, just like current CDMA-based calls. Since one can swap from voice to video with VoLTE at-will, I would assume video calls would be based on “minutes” as well.

  • pyro74boy .

    WOW Verizon is now going with voice over LTE to see how fast we can eat up our data and slow down unlimited data users after 4.7 GB. THANK GOD they won’t even get a chance to play these games with me.

    • LiterofCola

      Even positive news is bad news for some of you people.

      • Dominick White

        Its Verizon. If t-mobile was doing all this they would be saying That’s it’s the greatest thing in the world

    • Justtyn Hutcheson

      HD Voice uses a whopping 13kbps, and it isn’t counted towards your data usage, but your “minutes” usage instead just like “regular” phone calls over CDMA (which, btw, are just audio data streams themselves). The additional usage is miniscule compared to video and audio streams which start around 320 kbps and 128kbps respectively.
      There are plenty of reason to dislike Verizon, but don’t spread FUD. It doesn’t help anyone.

      • pyro74boy .

        Are you speaking on behalf of Verizon wireless? this is going to effect our data trust me and Verizon is going to make sure of it So don’t insult my intelligence and claim that I don’t know what I’m talking about when I make a valid point. Verizon will do everything is their power to make this count towards our data and you’re a fool if you think otherwise. Also i would love to be wrong about this and will be the first to admit that I’m wrong if I am wrong. This is my opinion and I sure hope I am wrong. There was still no need for the insults on your part.

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          I apologize if you were offended, it certainly wasn’t my intent.

          That said, your statement (“Verizon is now going with voice over LTE to see how fast we can eat up our data”) was demonstrably false. The fact is that the HD Voice component does not count towards your data usage at all, but towards your package “minutes”, just like “normal” calls do now. According to Verizon reps, the only time you will use data is when you activate the video stream, which makes sense for the reasons I outlined above, namely the the 30-50x increase in bandwidth demands for video vs. voice (source: http://www.cnet.com/news/verizon-readies-launch-of-nationwide-voice-over-lte-service/).

          • pyro74boy .

            apologize excepted.

            However I’m not denying anything I said or how I even said it and if I’m wrong I’m glad because I have been lied to by Verizon so many times in last few years and they have gone back on their word. I made the mistake by not saying that this was my opinion and I also apologize to you about that as well.

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            No worries, bud. I certainly understand everyone’s frustration and distrust of Verizon, and will slam them as soon as anyone when they make a genuinely terrible move (Network Optimizations my ass). We will see how it shakes out; your fears could very well end up being completely true, and my (fleeting and naive) faith in companies making rational decisions will once again be my undoing 🙂

        • HarvesterX

          Um Verizon has already stated that it will count towards your minutes, not data

          • pyro74boy .

            I would not take Verizon’s word for anything as they have lied to me and have gone back on their word before.

    • Suicide_Note

      Relax, dude. VoLTE will not make you chew through any more data than you currently use. It gets billed to your plan as minutes, not actual data usage.

      • pyro74boy .

        Yeah Verizon also claimed that I was going to have unlimited data without any throttling and on October 1st they’re going back on their word for us still lucky enough to be on unlimited data after using 4.7GB anytime they feel like it. Verizon has also lied to me a few times so I would not take Verizon’s word for anything. Lately Verizon has been making some very bad moves in the wrong direction. If their point was to start losing customers then they are doing the right things.

  • MotDetoyr

    I am sure its coming to iPhone first

  • thelolotov

    Unless someone ports it to custom ROMs, I have no reason to care.

    • Rodeojones000

      Same here.

      • DanSan

        need it on my CM11 🙁

  • flosserelli

    Waiting to hear how VZW will segregate and penalize UD users (again).

  • Nick

    Not stopping me Verizon. Moto X+1 for me, Nexus X (6) for the wife, and we’re jumping to T-Mobile. You win Verizon, two less unlimited data uses on your system.

    • Sean

      I am stuck on the same boat right now…Do I make the switch to Tmobile with what at this time seems like more and better options, lose my Verizon unlimited and my at most times better coverage OR do I continue to stick it out with Verizon until I can no longer keep my unlimited (I also belive that since I do have an old Alltel plan it really is effecting my call and data quality)? Anyone in the NE Ohio area with suggestions either way…..

      • flosserelli

        Remember you are talking about your phone service. If you switch to a carrier with inferior service, you will regret it, no matter what “more and better options” they offer, or how much money you save. I switched from VZW to T-Mobile and couldn’t be happier, but T-Mobile service is just as good or better than VZW in my area. But if it wasn’t, I would not have switched.

    • Need a friend? 🙂

    • s0uth

      make sure you sell your unlimited plan! your welcome! 😀

      • Nick

        I’d sell it, but I’m not sure the logistics on that one. For one, I want to keep my number. Additionally, my parents/brother are on a family plan with me, and I’m transferring the account to them, and my wife and I are getting off it. Right now we have 4 smart phones with unlimited data, and 1 “dumb” phone.

    • Edwin M

      I’m in the process now. I just used the phone upgrade transter this past weekend for my wife so she can have a Galaxy S5. I’m waiting for the Moto X+1 to use my upgrade and then letting T-Mobile pay my ETF and jump ship. We’ll sell both phones to pay for the same phones on T-Mobile.

  • flosserelli

    I’m sure the iphone 6 launch has absolutely nothing to do with this….

  • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

    What we really need is information on how this will affect plans going forward. Isn’t the whole point of VOLTE having everything use a data connection? Along with VOLTE are there any rumors of just VOLTE plans?

    • Justtyn Hutcheson

      Technically, even current CDMA-based calls are just data streams, only moving over a different network. VoLTE’s draw is the enhanced voice quality and integrated Video calling system. So, I don’t see the structure of plans changing. However, with all plans having “unlimited minutes” moving forward, that won’t likely be an issue.
      What we are waiting for is LTE-only devices, which are still a year or so out, as the CDMA fallback will remain necessary until they fully stabilize their fringe LTE network and move to LTE as the default setting rather than an account opt-in. This move seems kind of like an open beta as they solidify their VoLTE system and wait to move their “dumbphone” users over to VoLTE versions.

      • hkklife

        So the potential for an LTE dumbpone in the future? Interesting. The newest flip phone we have in our family (LG Exalt has a smartphone-sized screen but has 1x connectivity only, which I found to be a huge step backwards in comparison to my last flip (RAZR 2 V9M)

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          LTE-only devices are coming, no doubt. That will likely herald the beginning of the end for their CDMA network.

  • MichaelFranz

    Want VoLTE and HD Voice??? Well thats going to be a change to your plan so we are taking away unlimited data….

    …i know that wont happen but hey…it IS Verizon..lol

    • hkklife

      No, that’s probably exactly what they are going to do.

    • HarvesterX

      Won’t happen

  • WCM3

    Is there a list of VoLTE capable phones?

    • J. Gilbertson

      I imagine it’s probably going to be compatible with any phone using XLTE once they send the HD voice firmware updates.

      • T4rd

        I’d imagine it would be compatible with most, if not all LTE phones. Weren’t they touting the Thunderbolt as VoLTE capable when it launched?

        • hkklife

          I don’t recall that but I do remember the TB was capable of simultaneous voice & data over CDMA, which was pretty huge at the time.

          • Hothfox

            That’s just because it was the first LTE Verizon device. It used the CDMA radio for talk and the LTE radio for data.

          • Chris Hannan

            No, the ThunderBolt could do simultaneous voice and data on 3G. I know. I had one, and each LTE device I’ve had since has been a step backwards in this regard.

            My TB could do voice and data on 3G and LTE, my Galaxy Nexus could only do it when on LTE, and my iPhone 5s can’t do it at all.

            It doesn’t matter much to me because I place all my calls with Hangouts, so my calls are already going through data.

    • Justtyn Hutcheson

      Officially no, but we deduce a pretty reasonable list:
      One M8 (update delayed til mid-September due to “requirements rework”)
      2014 Droid/Motorola devices (rumored launching mid-late September)
      Note 4 (rumored launching mid-late Sept)
      Galaxy S5 (because all its other variants are VoLTE-capable)
      Galaxy S4/Note 3 (see above)
      LG G2 (The Verge tested VoLTE on one)
      LG G3 (If its on the G2, the G3 is a lock)
      iPhone 5/5s/5c/6 (VoLTE is supposedly built into iOS 8, and is supported on their baseband radios)

      We could also expect that most of the XLTE-capable devices will be VoLTE-compatible, but will need a software update to switch on the function.

      • hkklife

        Building on that superb list above as a “maybe”….maybe the 2013 Droids since they are pretty much on par with the equivalent Sammy & LG handsets in all of the areas that would impact VoLTE and they are Verizon’s “signature” devices.

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          It depends on the baseband and transceiver used in the device mostly, and whether the OEM would want to pay to develop the patch and certify it (I doubt Verizon would foot that entire bill themselves).

      • DanSan

        Im curious how people running custom roms will do with this. Is the VoLTE something the rom dev can just bake in? especially if running AOSP roms like CM11 like i am on my GS4

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          VoLTE is not supported by AOSP, so I severely doubt it will work without the relevant Verizon bits. Whether those can be successfully ported to an AOSP project is anyone’s guess at this point.

      • karpodiem

        One correction – wifi calling in the iOS 8 beta is only available for the 5C and 5S (which use a slightly different band selection compared to the 5). If I was to guess, it will only be available for the 5C, 5S, and 6.

        While this has nothing to do with VoLTE, I expect them to pattern VoLTE support off of this.

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          Wifi calling and VoLTE are separate systems that use different radios and protocols. The 5/5c/5s use different wifi radios (Murata 339S0171/339S0209/339S0205 respectively) which would explain the absence of wifi calling on the iPhone 5 (assuming that feature was added in the S02** version). There is no reason to expect that VoLTE would be absent from the 5 as it uses the same baseband radio as the 5c/5s and uses the same transceiver as the VoLTE-capable Galaxy S III, so it should be fully capable, unless Apple is intentionally restricting the feature to “encourage” upgrades.

          • karpodiem

            “unless Apple is intentionally restricting the feature to “encourage” upgrades.”

            apple is notorious for this 😉

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            Correct, but I can at least be optimistic that they wouldn’t restrict what is ostensibly a network feature to do so. At least the vast majority of the feature restrictions could be “blamed” on a lack of hardware support; in this case that excuse really wouldn’t hold up.

    • Allen Yates

      I think technically the Droid DNA could do VoLTE as it has the same modem as the iPhone 5. It is limited to LTE Band 13, and it’s old. So, probably not, but maybe. 🙂

  • Chad

    “over your data connection” … Sooo, how data heavy is this HD Voice? Is it like streaming a YouTube video that can go though how many MB per min? If so, between these new calls (which will most likely become the standard in a coulpe years) and regual data use, how is anyone going to be able to actually use their phones?

    • J. Gilbertson

      When you quote “over your data connection” you’re quoting the writers at droid life and not digging into Verizon’s landing pages for these features that they include in the link source at the bottom of the article. Check this out: http://www.verizonwireless.com/wcms/consumer/advanced-calling.html

      They say that “HD Voice will be billed according to your existing calling plan.” Meaning it will be billed according to your minutes. However that’s only for HD Voice. HD Video is a bit more vague and I dare to say it will probably cut into the data plans.

      • karpodiem

        that’s interesting. I wonder if that also holds true for those of us with grandfathered unlimited data (counting against minutes, not data)

        • PoisonApple31

          Why wouldn’t it hold true? Why would Verizon give unlimited data users unlimited HD voice minutes?

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          The VoLTE system does not count as data usage according to their press release. Making it count for unlimited users would be a royal pain for their internal systems, so it is easier just to ignore them. However, the increased LTE load may activate the Network Optimization-based throttling more often for unlimited users’ data connection. It should not affect VoLTE, again as it is not treated as generic “data” by the network.

        • Hothfox

          They’ll probably say you need a More Everything or tiered plan to take advantage.

          • karpodiem

            that’s what I fear – they could make VoLTE require a non-unlimited data plan, because…they can.

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            That would be a tough sell to the FCC. There is no technical limitation that would require VoLTE to be on a capped plan; the exact opposite, in fact. Unlimited data users don’t have access to a plan with unlimited talk, so they already have a built-in restriction on how much they can utilize the feature. Verizon is also already under scrutiny for the upcoming “Network Optimization” that can’t adequately be explained why they only seem to target unlimited lines rather than any line in the top 5% of data users, so I don’t think they would want to try their luck with a VoLTE restriction.

      • Chad


      • this should be top comment so people don’t freak out..

        • Blue Sun

          I agree. But people will still freak out.

          • zepfloyd

            People want to bash Verizon for whatever they can, even if it’s not fact. Just makes them feel better.

          • michael arazan

            Verizon Tension Sheet

            Every time You Experience hatred towards Verizon, pop the bubbles

          • flosserelli

            Nice, but there isn’t enough bubble wrap in the world.

          • HarvesterX

            That creates note tension because you’re telling me to pop the bubbles and I can’t pop the bubbles it’s a version logo with pictures of bubbles I can’t pop why why why are you being so cruel

      • michael arazan

        Wonder if an app can be created to Use HD Voice/ Video and be converted to let people get more data for other things that regular data uses but through a phone app but it’s counted through unlimited voice plan. Like a modern day AOL app to use over your voice connection as an example

    • Tony Spencer

      Maybe they are hoping to lose enough customers to be financially in the red, then Verizon will sell their wireless division to Google. /sarcasm, lots of it!

    • Justtyn Hutcheson

      Ostensibly, HD Voice moves from CDMA’s 8kbps to 13kbps. However, it uses a dedicated routing separate from the data connection, and as such it is billed as a “call” rather than “data”. Therefore, it will not count against your cap. Since Video Calling is built-in to VoLTE, I will hazard a guess that calls made through Verizon’s dialer/phone “app” won’t count against your data cap while other VoIP systems will, similar to how such things work now.

  • AndrewScottRox

    So Verizon’s message is…we want you to use all the data you can so we can rake in the cash.

    • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

      I don’t see what’s wrong with that….they are a business after all

    • Justtyn Hutcheson

      They want to get everyone off CDMA so they can refarm that great spectrum to enable LTE-A, and finally deprecate their legacy network equipment.

      • LiterofCola


      • DanSan

        so everyone with those feature phones are going to be pretty heartbroken lol

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          They will probably offer exceptionally good deals to existing flip-phone and 3G-only device owners when the changeover begins, or simply inform them of the coming change and let the user decide if they want to stay or switch, as both would require new equipment.

  • yummy

    Livin life like howie hughes
    Got the kleenex boxes for my shoes
    Aint no need to go outdoors
    I got dirt squirrels to do my chores
    But one thing this robbie caruso needs
    My voice calls to go through HD

  • Nelly547

    How long will it take Verizon to upgrade the software with their “rigorous testing”.

    • I would hope that they have been testing already and that updates will be available right around the time of launch, otherwise, this new service would be worthless.

      • Kevin

        most devices in the last year or two will have this capability, right?

      • ace

        I know for a fact they have been testing volte since last fall. My brother in law is a verizon cell tech. He is using the g2 to test.

  • J. Gilbertson

    I wonder what devices will be available after firmware update for VoLTE? Hopefully any of their newer flagship phones. I believe I’ve heard that voice calls over LTE will be charged as standard voice minutes but I wonder about video calls if and what they’ll charge that as?

  • Stephen Lucas

    Here use this data calculator to see how much we can save you when you switch to the more everything plan…. well guess we got everyone off their unlimited data plans that we’re going to get, time to roll out the data useing volte service to screw them…. muhahaha


      Yeah… How is my calling experience gonna be when I get throttled??

      • Jim

        exactly, can you hear me now, sorry being throttled, talked to much with my unlimited calls and data plan

        • michael arazan

          When you get throttled does it slow down the speech, or does the other end just hear every other word?

          • flosserelli

            You start sounding drunk, slurring everything.

          • Chris Hannan

            Neither. Your call just keeps buffering.

    • soccerburn55

      I really want to know how this will affect your data plan. If all calls are on data if you make a lot of calls couldn’t you in theory use all data with just calls?

      • Suicide_Note

        Their system will differentiate between data used for calls, and data used for web browsing, downloads, games, etc. Data used for calls or video calls won’t be counted against your monthly data allotment

        • Robert Macri

          I read on CNET that video calls will count against your monthly data allotment.

        • morgan boyle

          For now….they will switch that over and start counting voice data as “regular” data. just a matter of time.

        • Champion1229

          That means they’re gonna be snooping through your usage (albeit bots will be doing it automatically).

          • Suicide_Note

            They’re doing that now. What’s your point?

    • SJ

      If LTE is so “crowded” that “we” feel the need to throttle people to alleviate network stress, why do “we” feel comfortable adding tons of new usage to LTE? Wouldn’t this create more of a problem?

      • Lucky Armpit

        I was thinking the same thing. If the LTE network is already congested, without a ton of available bandwidth this is going to suck. Also, what does that do to our data plans? This feature will probably chew through data, yes? I don’t see this being used a lot if it’s going to be a hit on people’s data plans.

        • Raven

          It more than likely won’t count against your data because they want you to use it if you can.

          • Cael

            This is Verizon…

          • DonSerrot

            I wouldn’t count on this. For the longest time you had to buy minutes for talk and text until people stopped using those as much in favor of using data for stuff. That’s when Verizon tried to kill off unlimited data and gave people unlimited talk and text instead. VoLTE is going to bring keeping track of minutes back in the form of your data usage. They are going to tout this as the best thing ever and push people towards it to try to get rid of the last of the regular voice customers just like they’ve been doing with the unlimited data customers, then they’ll kill off the CDMA network so there’s no way to go back. They’ll cut the cost of maintaining the CDMA network and focus on just the LTE network but I’d be surprised if they pass any of that savings on to the customers.

      • Justtyn Hutcheson

        VoLTE is a tiny amount of additional usage compared to, say, streaming music or a YouTube video. The fact that it is opt-in and only available on certain devices, and will only activate under certain conditions, means that the initial hit to the network is most likely going to be pretty small all things considered. As it ramps up, they should be able to begin phasing out CDMA where their LTE is strongest, using it to achieve LTE-A status for their network. The process may be greatly accelerated depending on how they fare in the spectrum auction next year.

        • michael arazan

          Tiny Amount x 87 Million = Seems Legit

      • pyro74boy .

        Very good point on your part and this only proves my point that this isn’t about how many people are slowing down LTE by using it at the same exact time and is in fact about Verizon is not making any extra money on their unlimited data customers. So now Verizon has forced people like me to leave their greedy company by acting this way toward me the customer who Verizon claims is the best part of their network. [I’m quoting Verizon not myself] We can only hope that others follow my lead and then maybe Verizon will get the hint [I’m not counting on it]

        • kunit

          I’m sorry, but did you really think they would keep unlimited data without eventually throttling it? Back then data was plenty and there wasn’t 1440p video streaming or 2gb games. Yes they had an agreement, but was it always being high-speed data part of that?

          • pyro74boy .

            Yes I did and yes it was as I was told this by my Verizon rep who told me in their very own words that I would be able to keep my unlimited data and use it as much as I wanted to without being slowed down and the ONLY WAY that I would not be able to keep it this way is if I was to ever change plans. Keep in mind I singed this back when I got the HTC thunderbolt and so Verizon knew full well that this was being used with LTE speeds. I was lied to and there is no way around it. This is why I laugh when the Verizon rep tells me thank you for being the best part of their network so by rewarding me they are going to slow down my [UNLIMITED DATA] speeds whenever they feel like it after I use 4,7 GB starting on October 1st lol I know I’m only one person but I’m going to be writing Verizon wireless a very nasty letter before I leave explaining to them in full detail the exact reason why I’m leaving and how unfair I feel I have been treated during the past few years and I hope others who are just as mad about this as I am will follow my lead.

      • Stormprobe

        Maybe they’re going to implement IPv6 at the same time.