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Images: Old Moto X vs. New Moto X+1

Thanks to a parting gift from @evleaks, we may have the cleanest look yet at the new Moto X (aka Moto X+1). The image he shared shows the Moto X on its way to Verizon in both black and white/wood variants, with big camera sensors and a possible button/sensor that also houses a Motorola logo on the back. The images also show a screen that may have even less bezel than last year’s model, at least on the top and bottom of the device, even with dual front-facing speakers.

Since we have such clean images that appear to be official press renders, we decided to match them up next to last year’s Moto X. 

We took both black and white press images from the 2013 model, scaled them to be the same height as the new one, and then set them side-by-side on canvasses. Now, we don’t know the exact dimensions of the new Moto X, so take these for what they are – a simple comparison for the sake of comparison (Edit: No, they are not to scale.). The new model could be taller and wider for all we know.

Overall, the design hasn’t changed much, but there are some differences. Here are some thoughts:

  • You can certainly see the obvious – dual front-facing speakers on the new model. What’s interesting, is that the new model almost seems to have less top and bottom bezel even with those speakers.
  • Speaking of speakers, with the dual front-facing speakers now featured, you won’t find a speaker on the rear.
  • On the back, at least for the black model, Motorola has gone with a change in texture for the new Moto X (smooth matte), though we could still see the dimply texture as a MotoMaker option.
  • The camera setup is obviously different as well, with the new model housing a dual-flash in a ring around the sensor, whereas the old model has a single LED flash located below.
  • The front of the white Moto X+1 is showing us what appear to be added sensors in all four corners. Are those there for some sort of gesture or are they decorative? I have a feeling Motorola may have a trick up its sleeve there. For those thinking one is an LED notification light, keep in mind that Motorola uses Active Display, so they don’t need a notification light.
  • Finally, the Motorola logo dimple is completely different, in a way that I don’t think any of us can explain.

Thoughts?

MOTO X OLD NEW BLACK

  • Jeff Kang

    >The front of the white Moto X+1 is showing us what appear to be added sensors in all four corners. Are those there for some sort of gesture or are they decorative?

    There was a recent MIT article about the ability to use infrared LED lights and machine learning techniques to turn a single-lens camera into a 3-D one.

    technologyreview/com/news/529986/turning-a-regular-smartphone-camera-into-a-3-d-one/

    Someone on my Google plus feed wrote this comment about it:

    >**MIT’s New Single-Lens 3D Camera Looks a Lot Like the Moto X+1’s**
    >
    > Thinking of Google’s +Project Tango, which is using a dual-camera prototype mobile device to provide 3D mapping of objects and of spaces that you walk through, This development from MIT that uses a single traditional camera lens in conjunction with near-infrared LEDs, which essentially turn the camera into both a traditional camera and an infrared camera.
    >
    > —
    > What’s particularly interesting about this new device is that it looks remarkably similar to the supposedly zero-flash camera being seen in early leaked photos that purport to show the upcoming Moto X+1 smartphone).
    >
    > The alleged Moto photo shows only four small LED lamps of some kind surrounding the camera lens, while there are six near-infrared LED sensors in the MIT design, but the layout and the probable sizes is essentially identical.
    >
    > —
    >
    > My guess: Moto may be one of the first to get a single-lens 3D camera, probably not in the upcoming Moto X+1, but no doubt the multilateral brainstorming that’s a part of the +Google ATAP team’s product development may have inspired some further refinements at MIT – or vice versa.
    >
    > At Google I/O next year the fruits of Project Tango in more production-ready form are likely to surface, and the form factor for Moto X+1-generation phones looks to be ready for the opportunity coming from Tango.

    Also:

    > “turn the camera into both a traditional camera and an infrared camera”


    > “sensors are coming out that can switch between regular camera and infrared camera”

    wired/co/uk/news/archive/2014-02/25/eye-tribe-android

    Eye-tracking requires a camera that senses infrared.

    Maybe this is the kind of switching sensor that the Eye Tribe eye-tracking company is talking about?

    Or maybe I’m completely wrong.

  • Stephen Garriques

    Hey guys look! It’s a Bezel party. They’ve managed to make the logo dimple on the back a complete eye sore along with making the camera look comically oversized. We know it’s a Motorola phone. No need to make the logo on the back obnoxiously obvious. The original design for the back looks a lot better, cleaner, and modern. The new back looks like something from 2007. A step back in the wrong direction design wise.

  • InsomniacSinner

    With the two speakers of the exact size and shape, has anyone remembered the patent that Google applied for a phone that could be used right side up and upside down? With the loss of the soft keys, I imagine that you could pick up the phone and use the front of the phone in any orientation. Also could the 4 sensors be used to sense which way the user is looking at the phone similar to the Kindle Fire and have a 3D display similar to the Fire?

  • Tyler

    Anyone think that the circle on the back is a fingerprint scanner? It looks big enough to place your whole finger like the iPhone home button making it significantly better than Samsung’s design. Overall I think it will be a significantly better phone and while the circle on the back looks ugly compared to last gen ill take it if it is a fingerprint scanner.

  • Wider phone and bezels = fail. Why Motorola? You guys did such a great job with the X, but the X + 1 is definitely a step back.

  • Dom Giunta

    Does nobody remember the countless other leaks of the x+1? The phone can clearly be seen in the comparison leaks that its slightly bigger. And on the looks, the black does look way better than the white, because those multiple sensors are a tad ugly. I always get black phones anyways. And the back button most likely looks like a physical button for something. I really hope it’s not a camera button. I hope it’s a power button

  • Joe Fischer

    I dont think this is the new moto x. I think this is the new moto g. The side bezels are bigger than the previous model. Plus judging by the pictures it doesn’t look like its made out of the premium materials the previous model had. Can’t really say that without having the phone in hand though. We’ll see very soon what moto has planned though.

  • scale

    Don’t feel like doing it myself, but you could size the phones to scale or double check if they are. We know the supposed screen sizes and the aspect rations. Scale the phones based on the actual screen diagonals. Should be simple enough.

  • proparham

    DAT ugly front speaker and that hideous moto logo.
    but like that new round shaped flash (though it could be slimmer)

  • Granpa0

    No flash on the X+1? Or is the flash the little dots on the side of the camera?

  • chris_johns

    god that m logo looks terrible…very disapointed…like the front speakers but not the larger width…i feel this is going backwards in design nor forwards

  • Am79

    I really want the next moto x but if it’s as wide as it looks, I’ll have to look elsewhere. Don’t know why they didn’t go with the edge to edge display again.

  • BoFiS

    Even with active display, I hope and wish it still has an LED too…and also would be nice if it managed to be similar dimensions if not the same width ::crosses fingers::

  • frstsaxman

    It look like we will have the front facing speakers of the HTC One, the five front cameras of the Amazon fire phone, the rear (power?) button of the LG G3, with moto’s superior software, motos customization, and motos lower prices. It may not have been accomplished in the prettiest of ways, but I think this is Motos attempt to take all the best features of each competitors flagship phone and put it into one “superphone”.

    • chris_johns

      thats…a thought lol

  • KarloC.

    i dont like the look of the back of the new moto x. liked last years version. plus dont like the silver with the white. white & wood is perf.

  • yummy

    On first glance, this years
    is uglier than last years. How do you sell ugly as an improvement?

    • GJV

      Huh? It’s basically the same thing with updated specs. How do you see this as worse?

  • Silky Johnson

    Im just hoping for a good camera with ois, and possibly some type of water resistance (though thats not a big deal to me at all, it would just be nice). The camera was the only thing that kept me from ditching my g2 for a moto x.

  • ATTACK

    I like front facing speakers, but I just don’t like the way Moto designed these. And the back plate, or more of the over sized Moto M logo and camera… IDK, It looks cheap. This phone just isn’t for me.

  • Steve

    The sensors are visual sensors, much like what you see on the Amazon Fire Phone. I can only imagine what they’re for. They could be for depth, color, gestures, person recognition, security. Who knows.

    The modified dimple is a button of some sort. I remember a patent Google acquired a year or two ago about having a button on the back of a device. This might be related.

  • Charles Walker

    The body isn’t AS sexy as the G3, but when you figure in the excellent software, hardware optimizations, and Motorola’s magic, I’d still take this over the G3 in a heartbeat.

  • Jprime

    What a work of…ART… on a side note, if you use developer options to switch to ART, can you turn developer options off after the reboot and stay in the new runtime?

    • GJV

      Do you mean hide the developer options from the settings menu? Why would you want to do that? I dont think you can without wiping but I could be wrong.

      • grumpyfuzz

        You don’t have to wipe, there’s an option to turn developer options off and if they still appear, clear data of the settings app.

        • Jprime

          Thanks…yeah, I didn’t mean hide the options just turn them off as it seems you got lol

      • Jprime

        No, I just meant turn them off like you turn off anything (Bluetooth, etc.)

    • grumpyfuzz

      Yes.

  • chris_johns

    i LOVE my moto x…i def dont love this….

  • Peter Blanco

    Alright, alright, I’ll start throwing my money now.

  • stabone

    The white and wood model I really don’t like. I like the black one. I have always preferred the black model phones because the camera and sensors don’t stand out as much making the phone look much cleaner.

  • Jeff C

    Note 3 may be going up on swappa to get this bad boy. haven’t had a non-samsung phone since the iphone 4. then went sammy w/ the gnex, gs3, and note 3. time for a change

  • Kock

    Thanks for this @Evleaks! Everyone please consider participating in https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/evleaks-fund to thank Evan for his contribution to tech news.

  • David Caccavo

    i liked the dimple much more than i like the button. i can possibly live with the button if it is anything except a fingerprint scanner. biggest waste of “technology” for a phone. i also hope the 4 dots are for something other than the lame eye scrolling gyroscope/accelerometer the Amazon Fire has.

  • Fooer

    The white NEW front looks like my Samsung Galaxy S3! Nooooo

    • MotDetoyr

      it pretty much look like any other phone out there

      • Fooer

        I don’t know – the current Moto X does not look like my SGS3. However, glancing at the X+1 immediately reminds me of the S3. I actually like the old front better, but whatever. It’s not THAT big of a deal

  • Bobolon1219

    So Motorola was able to put front facing speakers with minimal bezel. I wonder if HTC just had to have a logo on the front of the phone.

    • middlehead

      Most of that “wasted” bezel space is gap for the antenna. You know, the thing that makes your phone worthwhile. With the full-metal bodies they use, HTC has to have a gap somewhere for the signal to get in.

      • Bobolon1219

        Oh thanks that makes sense. I should have known better. I noticed the my m8 has less signal then my g2 did. Sometines

  • sean carey

    That looks like black wood on the black model

  • b_loner

    I think the moto logo in the back could serve as a power button. I may be blind, but i dont think is see one.

    • b_loner

      See one opposite the volume keys ***

  • steve30x

    A year ago nobody was talking about “bezels” and now it’s all about bezels.. Who cares, if you like it buy it, otherwise then don’t! I hardly notice it on my m7 at all to be honest. How picky do you have to be, it’s just a phone.. I understand being picky if your getting plastic surgery on your face but this is just a phone, plenty to choose from every two weeks it seems.

  • DanSan

    just be happy there are no verizon logos on the front……

    for now.

  • RustyTechGuy

    Personally I think the new model looks better. Smaller bezels, much bolder logo on the back (the previous model almost looks like it was an afterthought…oh maybe we should put a logo on our phone…um lets just carve a dimple on the back and put an M in it.) Plus its nice to see someone else put dual speakers on the front of the phone I always loved that part of my HTC One. The old Moto X was the first Motorola Android phone that I actually considered buying and well the new model makes we wish I could get one the new model now.

  • does nobody even care that evleaks is “retiring”?

    • RustyTechGuy

      Yeah that’s a shame always depended on them to put out information and pics of the new phones before anyone else. Hopefully someone else can take up the slack.

  • Justin Kos

    I’ll be sticking to my nexus 5, it looks exactly the sane.

    I mean..how much can you really change the design on a rectangle with a screen on it to be honest. 😛

  • Chris Knepper

    What we’ll see next year…

    • Not enough Verizon logos.

      • koopadoop

        Also need to replace the Play Store icon with the Verizon Store icon 🙂

    • Vanquishgc

      I love that you threw in the NFL logo haha. I’ll never understand why they’ve forced that app down our throats for years. I mean I’m a big football fan and all, but I’ve never had a desire to ever use that app. I don’t worry about the X turning into a logo whore, but the next Droid? I could see this. Good work man 🙂

  • M3D1T8R

    I’m a little disappointed that the side bezels seem a hair larger than before. Otherwise, I still have my hopes up. Super happy about the front speakers. Just hoping for a display around 5″ instead of 5.2. And please let it have an SD slot in along with the SIM. And of course, a good camera. Anyone have any idea what sensor that might be just by the way it looks?

    • middlehead

      I’d prefer the side bezels be slightly larger on my X; when I have a full-screen app in landscape mode, it usually takes two or three tries to hit the top of the screen to swipe out of immersive mode.

  • evltwn

    Dual speakers, and a 1080p 5.2in screen in what appears to be almost the same form factor is a win in my book. Looks wider to accommodate that bigger screen. If that new camera takes pictures that are on par with the other phones (Samsung, LG, iPhone) out there I could live with it’s appearance. It’s not that bad at all. As long as Motorola can keep it at a reasonable off-contract price right out the gate, they should have a winner.

    • Jeff

      The image isn’t to scale unfortunately.

      • evltwn

        Even if it’s a little bigger I think it’ll be fine.

  • Michael Tran

    What’s the red messaging app?

    • grumpyfuzz

      VZW Messenger

    • Godzilla

      .

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  • wrklss

    not digging the wide look..pictures can be deceiving..like you said pictures
    not to scale

  • Bionic

    where is the flash for camera?

    • Two flash are on the left and right side of the camera unit

      @http://newmobilereview.com/

  • Godzilla
  • J.r. Coffie

    I don’t know what Motorola is going to call it, x+1 or x2? but I know what I’m going to call it… MY NEXT PHONE

    • Richard Giordano

      Yea was just bout to say tht. this new moto x looks like a rlly gd phone love the design but I’m going to wait for the new Droids b4 I go for the moto x+1 . (currently Droid Maxx owner)

      • J.r. Coffie

        2900 mah battery is pretty good but if I could get a maxx with the same physical size as the x+1 I would have a winner

        • Richard Giordano

          Yep SME here but I believe if the Maxx has a 4000 mah battery with a gd camera n front firing speakers I’ll take tht over the x+1 any day

  • senor_heisenberg

    Old white, looks good. New white, looks ugly. Old and new black, both look really good. I do wish the new models had me rounded corners like last year’s. They make the phone look even better.

  • Wesley

    I won’t go so far as to say the new one is ugly. However, I do still prefer the aesthetic of the current model. The dimple is what I’m most disappointed that they changed. That said as long as it isn’t physically that much larger, and Spigen makes a nice thin case for it, I think it will be a nice upgrade to carry.

  • Josh

    The front on the black one looks gorgeous. The back on the black one looks horrible. I think its because of the different texture / gray around the camera. If that ring was different color maybe black? to match the back it would be better. But I’m pretty sure that will be customizable! So I’m happy and excited!

  • Jprime

    Somebody better pick the ball up off the floor…

  • KoreaEastSide

    Quality, Trust, Service = Samsung, LG……..

  • Trysta

    I’m sure it will look better in person but I’m not loving the new design. It looks like a cheap knockoff version of the original…

  • tonylee427

    so ugly! did motorola change a designer again?

  • Dudesef

    we need that stock wallpaper…

  • XvierX

    I think the big logo on the back will light up. Or maybe you will be able to plug your moto 360 into the back of the moto x to transform them both into one mega supah moto x……. +1… :p

  • sski66

    A lot of people complaining, yeah it looks a little different but I still definitely want one. People are saying the camera is bigger but if u look @ just the Iris it looks the same, only the ring around the Iris/sensor is bigger, whatever, I just hope it’s an improved camera. I think last years model looks more streamlined & this version looks more industrial, give me the front of the new model & the back of the older one, & I’m wondering is the “Dimple”/Button a fingerprint reader?

  • I like the new front, but the older back.

    Still wants regardless.

    Moto, hurry up & take my money!!!

  • Suicide_Note

    The black phone definitely looks better than the white version.

  • Robzw

    Headphone jack is still on top of the phone. 🙁 not something I was hoping to see.

  • creed

    Obviously this is a fake…The verizon logo isn’t big enough.

  • LxMeister

    Any significance to the dates in the screenshots? Sept 17th is a Wednesday this year, and September 25th was a Wednesday last year… What was the release date of last year’s Moto X?

    • PoisonApple31

      August 23 was last year’s Moto X release date. September 25th is the rumored Verizon launch, maybe Sept 17th is when all the other carriers will get it.

  • manlisten

    The speaker grill on the Moto G looked better to me.

    That said, this is Moto’s flagship and they make some of the better looking devices out, so it could just be that this is a bad render. We will see on Sept 4th.

  • kashtrey

    “For those thinking one is an LED notification light, keep in mind that Motorola uses Active Display, so they don’t need a notification light.”

    Well, though I agree those almost certainly aren’t LEDs, the Moto X did have the hidden LED in the ear piece.

  • Teksu

    Moto Coin Imprint™

  • imlip

    http://imgur.com/IB6qrDb I sized this up against the Moto X for comparison.

    Technique used: Create a 5.2″ width image @ 72DPI. Created a 4.7″ width image @ 72DPI. Put all images in one document; Moto X, Moto X + 1, 5.2″ line and 4.7″ line. Both lines were scaled at the exact same proportions, maintaining ratio. Matched up the Moto X + 1 to the 5.2″ line and the Moto X to the 4.7″ line. Saved file.

    • imlip

      safe to say it is not the same size. The top of both are exactly the same. Bottom chin of the Moto X + 1 is slightly shorter, but not by much. Bezel size are the same.

    • jstew182

      The main reason this doesn’t seem right is due to the size of the headphone jack… In the blown up x+1 version the 3.5mm jack looks a lot bigger than on the original x…I don’t think the hole for the headphone jack would be bigger…

      • imlip

        then maybe it really isn’t a 5.2″ phone all the rumors led us to believe.

        • hyperbeatser

          What if….it’s SMALLER than the moto x….huh huh?

        • MistaButters

          Wouldn’t it be great if this was the new Moto G?

    • wikid_one

      This makes a lot more sense. All the people saying that the top and bottom bezel are smaller are looking at a disproportional comparison. It looks like the bezel is exactly the same size as the original X, just without the curved edge. I’ll be curious to see how they look in person. I usually like white phones but this one isn’t doing it for me. With all the metal I like the black much better.

  • TeeJay1100

    This looks good!! Now waiting to see how the Nexus 6 will look.

  • hyperbeatser

    Are they scaled correctly? Because if there’s that minimal of a difference, I’m sold. But still… that giant Moto logo….

    • Not scaled since we don’t know the actual dimensions of the new Moto X.

      • hyperbeatser

        Ah, guess I should actually read the article

  • cgalyon

    The camera doesn’t really look larger than the current model, right? Of course I don’t actually know the scale of the images…

  • Daeshaun Griffiths

    I like what’s happening here. The ring around the camera is pretty thick but it holds the dual flash so thats okay. The flash being moved looks like it gave them some space for the battery. The moto logo being so huge is disturbing and that can’t be a button because a button doesn’t need to be that big. The front facing speakers i can’t argue with. the 4 dots in the corners (top left being the largest) Makes me think Project Tango which came from ATAP. If it can see in the dark then maybe the facial recognition we’ve hoped for. Or I think of Windy Day and their VR addiction and going the fire phone route. Seriously, look at material design and the shadows and depth and tell me you don’t see the next nexus having the 4 cameras in the corner. Hopefully they pertain to the camera and detect how much light is coming from that direction.
    I don’t like that the black doesn’t have the woven look. Unlike Tim, I like the wood+metal combo but the white stripes that separate the corners aren’t cared for. It doesn’t look like it’ll feel like the OGX. The edges look sharp and don’t waterfall off like the last gen X. The last leaked photos have side shots that kinda prove me wrong but i’ll wait until i hold it to make a final judgement.

  • Flat_Stanley

    Can someone scale these images to show the change in size? I’m curious how much larger the new one will be be compared to the old one.

    • tdizzel

      “Now, we don’t know the exact dimensions of the new Moto X, so take these for what they are”
      Please learn to read, dumbass

      • Sequence of Sound…

        I feel sorry for you because you must have lived a difficult life.

    • kashtrey

      I mocked it up, and it comes in around the same thickness as the GS5 but a little less tall. I’m going out on a limb and going to say around 137-138 x 72-73 mm, give or take. No way to guess width though.

  • disastrousrainbow

    Geez some of you are so dramatic. The bezel increase (if there even is one) is barely noticeable yet it’s an automatic ugly now because of it. What the hell? I hope you all don’t have girlfriends/boyfriends because I can’t imagine how bad you’d react were they to gain weight.

    • miri

      Not so much the bezels, but what’s on them (as well as the camera module and the dimple). Kind of busy.May look nicer in person or just in different renders.

  • Ryan Powell

    Anyone else notice on the back view, the little black dot/gap off center towards the right (below the headphone jack port)? This makes me think you can slide something in there to pop the back plate off so we’ll be able to buy and swap the back plate ourselves (like on the G or maybe it was the E). I’d be excited about that for sure.

    • Carlos Rodríguez

      My guess that a secondary mic like the one on the bottom that is also off center. If I’m still guessing, the bottom mic is the main one, and in the front it’s only for speakers.

      Cheers!

    • kashtrey

      That would definitely be cool, but it’s probably a noise cancellation mic.

  • regkilla

    It got uglier.

  • Jon

    I hope the developer edition isn’t white again. White electronics are so ugly.

  • AndrewScottRox

    What’s up with the messaging app?

    • disastrousrainbow

      It looks like Verizon’s pre-installed messenger app.

  • Brady

    a step in the wrong direction. unfortunate.

  • Joseph De La Cruz

    Is it so hard to make a screen centered?

    • kashtrey

      If you factor in the on screen buttons to the bottom bezel, it’s pretty centered. You wouldn’t want to create a lot of dead space on the bottom, then have your on screen buttons, it just doesn’t work ergonomically.

  • Daniel Walsh

    Got worst…

  • wtd2009

    so, why is it that htc needed that giant bottom bezel if moto can do this?

    • Qwerty

      The One didn’t just have a fairly big chin, but there was a lot of bezel all around phone’s screen too. This new X still has a bottom bezel, but I wouldn’t say it’s all that big,

      • Justin W

        The One’s chin is partially necessary. The excessive black bezel around the display, however, is not.

        • Krazonite

          Love it.

          See, I own the M8…and feel the bezel could be *larger* on the sides. Damn thing keeps getting input just from being *held*.

          I actually liked the M7 much better. It’s going to be funny as hell when people start complaining about phantom touches on all these “bezel-less” devices.

      • wtd2009

        i agree with you, that’s basically what my previous comment was getting at =)

  • shecalledmejay

    I like how it looks, It’s pretty much the same with some added features.

  • Bharath Kannan

    maybe this isnt the new moto x but the new moto g? doesnt the moto g have that texture already?

  • RoadsterHD1

    Looks good to me.

    • Godzilla

      every time i look at your name i think road head. no offense, lol

      • RoadsterHD1

        No offense taken. I’m in the entertainment industry, Stagers

  • Alex Niehaus

    If you could mix the back panel of the old one with the front of the new one I think you’d have a winner. That new back panel is pretty terrible looking, esp with that big grey M instead of the nice subtle dimple on last year’s.

    • jimt

      Not to worry it will probably have a verizon logo there.

      • tdizzel

        what a stupid comment

        • Sequence of Sound…

          stop being so judgmental.

  • Sequence of Sound…

    the messaging icon in the dock looks ugly and verizon-ized. it’s not even uniform with the design language, with a big red box around it! it better not be the default and only messaging app on the phone!

    • tdizzel

      yes, because Android phones are known for only being able to have one messaging app installed…dumbass

      • Sequence of Sound…

        woah, I don’t appreciate you personally attacking me. stop spreading hate.

      • PoisonApple31

        lmao – that seemed a little bit harsh and random =P

  • 775summit

    looks pretty nice but I’ll let you know what I think for sure when its in my pocket

  • Tony Byatt

    The only issue that bothers me are the front speaker grills…

    I wish they went with more for a HTC look for the speaker grills…..

  • John R

    I think if the wallpaper was changed the phone might look better. It looks like a kids phone with that wallpaper.

    • cns2007

      For some reason Moto keeps putting unattractive wallpapers on their product shots.

  • Joe O

    The number of people that complain just for the sake of complaining will never cease to amaze me.

    • moew

      I for one support your post with nothing to say!

    • Brady

      by implication, you’re complaining about people who complain. =P

      • Joe O

        I call it more of an observation. 🙂

  • Nick

    It looks like a Samsung phone from the front….

    • jimt

      No there is no home button.

  • wtd2009

    side bezels look galaxy S5-sized =D

  • cns2007

    I still think the logo has something to do with wireless charging.

    • Godzilla

      no

      • cns2007

        Ok, guess you know something I don’t

        • jimt

          Have you seen the back of a Nexus 5? It has wireless charging no switch looking thing there.

  • R

    So on September 4th it will be announced with maybe a September 17th launch??? Already starting with the bloatware of Verizon messaging.

  • chris

    Yay for google launcher and extra sensors on bottom (gesture controls?)

  • Godzilla

    What would you rather have? Bezel? or lag?

    • Bryan Mills

      Lag free G2 and G3 here.

      • Godzilla

        The G3 i would believe, not the G2, come on man. I know that lag is a relative term but you are not gonna tell me the G2 is lag free

        • moew

          My G2 is lag free and I’m running the VZW version. Not sure what godzilla apps you have loaded that are stepping on each other.

        • Josh

          I can tell you the G3 also has lag

    • sj0808

      Moto Laggy X?

  • Brian Winning Jr.

    How people think this is thing are ugly is beyond me. Its almost identical to the original. I think some people have a problem with a little change.

    • Nick

      It’s all about the tiny details. All those added sensors on the white front make it look like a Samsung design. I think the new black front does look better than the original though, with a sharper edge that makes the screen more prominent than the frame. However, that black back is hideous (probably just a bad render).

      • kashtrey

        The lack of the textured look from the original doesn’t help at all. The non-textured back makes the white look super cheap and plasticy.

    • Dave

      They’re the same ones that gripe when a phone doesn’t change enough from year to year.

      • Justin W

        Or doesn’t have an SD card slot that can read a 128GB SDXC card vs. a 64GB SDHC card.

    • Justin W

      IMO it looks better with the clean back, and now we have front-facing speakers (which look pretty good I think).

  • King Lo

    The motorola logo is a fingerprint scanner

    • rgfafg

      But it still can be a dimple like last years no need to make it ugly and bulky looking

  • Superman

    Ring around the cam and the M symbol are ugly the front is alright

  • Yaniv

    More like Old vs Ewww. Am i right guys? right?! 🙂

  • Gfame103

    Ugly??? It’s just as beautiful as last year. Now it has front facing speakers. Good job moto. If battery life and camera are good. Bye Bye LG G2.

    • sj0808

      You must be dreaming lol

      • moew

        He is dreaming, I went from an X to a G2 and couldn’t be happier. NO WAY I’ll buy a Moto that locks itself and you can’t root it a few months later, which was the case with the moto x.

        • Justin W

          If you had to root the Moto X, you weren’t it’s intended target audience.

          • moew

            You weren’t intended. Who doesn’t love to root and run that 1 special app? Not a rom, not a boot loader, etc… just that one special app that allows cool stuff. Not much to ask IMHO.

            You probably have an iphone based on your statement.

          • Justin W

            And based on your statement I should stop feeding the troll.

            Also, the last Apple device I had was a 3rd generation Nano, thanks.

          • Vanquishgc

            How does that make any sense whatsoever? By that logic, I own an iPhone too. I don’t, and never will. Justin W is right, if you felt you had to root the moto X of all phones, you made the wrong choice in device. To also answer your question asking who doesn’t love to root their phones? Me. I get that people love custom ROMs and such, but the way I look at it, if I have to customize and alter the software that much to get the desired experience I want, I made a bad phone choice (like just about every Samsung I’ve owned). I love my M8 the way it is and wouldn’t change a thing. Rooting isn’t for everyone. Android alone gives us tons of customization options, which is why we love it as opposed to Apple. No need to bash the majority of Android users out there who don’t root. Kinda rude, and comes off elitist, man.

  • Superman

    M on the back so ugly compared to the dimple last year. Was looking forward to this but not anymore

  • Bryan Mills

    You dun goofed, Moto. But we know you’re not in the selling business anyways. Wanting to compete with Apple and Samsung in the same month.

    • moto

      you have so much hatred for moto, I see you bitching about them on every moto article ..you must be praying everyday for them to go out of bussiness ..you will be happiest person in this world when that happens 🙂

      • jimt

        The Moto X was a good phone. If the camera and screen are kick ass and the rest works like the old Moto X they will have a real winner on their hands.

  • guesswhat

    im sure this is not the best looking device ever, but i dont see anything wrong with this, it looks to have same design principles as moto x, and looks Ok. doesnt look ugly to me ..

  • BlackMaGiC1o0

    How are people saying this phone looks ugly, its almost IDENTICAL to last years model. WTF!?

    • droid army

      yes i dont get it, these droid life peeps are a finicky bunch

      • whoa

        Sorry to post unrelated.
        I seem to remember a moto patent that involved a button on the back. And a method of going through menus? Anyone remember anything along these lines or I am I just misremembering things?

        • Nicolas Johnson

          I recall this as well. Doesn’t detract from the fact that the newer look is remarkably worse than the original. It’s funny to me how much the aestetics of this thing can be botchs by just altering the bezel around the camera, and changing hte dimple.

          • whoa

            I might be thinking of a patent for a touch sensitive back.

        • Alex Rieck

          wasn’t that the motorola cliq?

      • the_real_patrick_bateman

        Personally, I think the back of the phone is less attractive than last year’s model. The camera and moto logo both went from subtle and elegant to bulky and gaudy. It’s subjective, of course. I don’t think the new phone is hideous, just a small step backward from last year. I still plan on buying it, although those two elements may affect my decision to pay extra for a custom back through moto maker.

        • Jared Denman

          I don’t mind the aesthetics of it so much, I just want it to be waterproof. It would be nice to just jump in the pool and not worry about my phone. Lol

          • theotherguy

            Yes waterproof would be amazing! My moto x just went swimming with me in the lake last month. Rice doesn’t work to dry it out. Galaxy S5 waterproofing is a must but I cant switch to phone without on screen buttons. Seriously hoping this will have waterproofing!

          • 4n1m4L

            Mine took a swim in the canal, didn’t even shut off. The speaker was crackly for a little while then it went back to normal. Love this phone.

          • ki11ak3nn

            How did that happen?? Did you knowingly jump with the phone in your pocket?? Or were you pushed??

        • TheDrizzle

          Yes, the key factor for me is subtlety. The new one is far less subtle and elegant.

        • Raven

          I love my Moto X, but all I can say with this new one is that Moto logo better do something like be a button or mini touch pad or there is going to be a revolt of some of the supporters that they have left.

      • Bob G

        Sadly, not just D-L people, but keyboard warriors everywhere.

      • Dustin Kear

        I like the new look personally

    • Bryan Mills

      The speakers are gross, bezels are larger, and don’t get me started on that back panel.

      • guesswhat

        please get started on back panel ..please explain what is wrong with it?

        • Bryan Mills

          The ugly camera and logos.

          • BlackMaGiC1o0

            -_____-

          • guesswhat

            front doesnt look that great compared to old one, but i think the back looks better than old one, what wrong with the camera..i think all moto haters are jumping on this article

          • Allen Yates

            These are renders. You can tell it’s not the actual device because the transition between the logo and the rest of the back is too clean. It will look better in real life.

      • BlackMaGiC1o0

        Everyone wanted a bigger screen, better camera, but still kept in the same size package. It seems like Moto has done that but people are still complaining. AND front speakers just like the M8. I just don’t get it =

        • Bryan Mills

          There are ways to do that without ruining the look of it.

        • Speak for yourself. I was happy with the same size screen.

        • Tim Hickey

          It’s not the same size package. They scaled the original Moto X to match the size of the X+1 render for purposes of comparing. I definitely agree with Bryan regarding the bezels…not sure why they wen’t away from edge to edge

          • BlackMaGiC1o0

            idk the bezels dont look that bad to me tbh.

          • wtd2009

            they look about the same size as the gs5 on the sides. i’m fine with it but i know plenty of people knocked the s5 design because of that.

          • Big EZ

            If it is larger with a larger screen then the bottom bezel looks the same. The top and side bezels look larger by a little bit.

          • vzwuser76

            If you notice from the render of the X, the sides of the original are slanted in towards the screen, where the new X+1 appears to be more of a straight edge or right angle. Think like the iPhone or Galaxy S4/5, a flat edge around the phone meeting the screen without slanting or beveling. I believe it’s more of an optical illusion than anything.

          • Nick

            WTF does “wen’t” mean?

          • calculatorwatch

            It’s actually pretty amazing they kept them that small considering they added the metal rim to the outside, especially when you look at the HTC One and see how much bulk metal can add.

            I guess some people will think it’s a mistake and they should have kept the bezels as slim as possible, but I think it’ll turn out to be worth it and make the phone feel much sturdier.

        • Frettfreak

          They haven’t done that… Did you read the article? The pic of the old x was scaled up to match the size for comparison. We have no idea how big this will be

        • Pootis Man

          Sometimes people just don’t know what they want. Personally I love this design and can’t wait for the phone to come out.

          • michael arazan

            This is what I want, glad I passed last year’s model for this. I can’;t wait for the release, been budgeting for 6 months for this phone

        • Iskandar

          I like the speaker idea… but I will prefer better battery and camera.

        • tyguy829

          who wanted a bigger screen? and it is NOT the same size. pics are not to scale. also, nobody asked for more size bezel, a fat ugly camera ring or a gross moto logo. What people have been saying for months is please use the same design with a 1080p panel, better camera, current processor and a bigger battery

          • chris_johns

            this +1000

          • Jkdem85

            So basically replacing and upgrading all the specs that you guys claimed didn’t matter anymore?

        • Vanquishgc

          Hate to admit it, but he’s right about the speakers. I feel everything else is fine, even the back logo, but the front speakers….Holy crap they’re ugly. They might be awesome and be almost as good as Boomsound, who knows, but design wise they’re hideous. It’s not as noticeable on the black as it is on the white, but it’s not good. I mentioned in a previous post that they should have taken a cue from HTC and made them look integrated so they blend in rather than stand out like a sore thumb.

      • Joe O

        They aren’t. Plus, I’d much rather have speakers that look gross and sound incredible than the opposite.

        • The side bezels look bigger to me

          • Joe O

            Sorry, I was referring to the speaker portion of his comment only. I should have specified.

          • hkklife

            Me too. Slightly surprised on the specs but slightly disappointed in the design on this one.

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            Trick of the perspective. the rolled edges of the X make the bezels seem much smaller than they are. The X+1 looks like it is flat to the edge, so it seems larger while actually being smaller by absolute measurement.

          • miri

            Looks like the bezels may be the same size, just proportionally smaller given the larger screen.

        • Dave

          No more cupping your hand behind it when you watch videos. Yeah!

      • alberteezy

        Yeah I mosly agree with you if moto would have put the speakers in a “HTC fashion” it would have better and the back “dimple” no longer looks nice. Only complaints I have. As for the bezel they look about the same…

      • wtd2009

        i do prefer the look of the back on the old device. but if they can sell me on why the change is for the better, then i’m all ears.

      • Bobolon1219

        Compared to the M8 the bezels are great and not much bigger than the first moto x.

    • Tony Byatt

      I think the front speaker grills and alleged rear button are what’s riling up folks…

      • erikiksaz

        I know right, let’s complain about all the potentially useful additions like an extra front-facing speaker and a button/sensor on the back. ROLLS EYES.

        • Higher_Ground

          well, for some people, the lack of physical buttons was directly part of the appeal. Even if it does something fancy, I know I don’t need it and would rather just have the nice looking back.

    • John R

      Change the wallpaper and the phone automatically looks better

    • peelabrownie

      i didn’t think last year’s model looked ugly or spectacular, but this year, the dimple just nukes the phone

    • NexusPhan

      Anyone else notice the white breaks around the edges? I’d bet a lot of money that means it’s metal. Reminds me of the M8. I’m getting pumped!

    • mcdonsco

      Aside from it gaing some width, looks fine to me, good even…here’s to hoping they didn’t put another circa 2011 camera in it though (and hopefully better battery too).

    • Maxim∑

      I think it’s the speakers that people are complaining about. The back also looks like the gate of a submarine but functionality over looks

    • Alex

      thats why its ugly… It looks too much like HTC or Samsung. I personally prefere droid razr design

    • Justin Kos

      Moto be like… Apple makes the same phone each year and it sells… Let’s try it!

    • S.Ober

      I like it better then the carbon fiber back. Might consider Moto again will see after Sep 3rd

    • TheDrizzle

      It’s less subtle. The camera has a huge ring around it that makes it stand out and look bulkier. The giant moto logo stands out more. Just overall less subtle.

      • ddpacino

        Looks perfectly fine to me in black. However, I’ll probably pick up a wood back for mine… preferably a dark-colored wood. It looks worse in white with the grey and that shade of wood.

    • Terrance Steiner

      Taste is subjective. I am not a big fan of the design of the Samsung Note but other people love it. I am not saying it is a bad phone. When I see it I just do not immediately think how cool it looks. I personally like the Moto X+1 design. I have been up for a new phone for two weeks and the itch to buy something new is palpable but I want to wait and see what the new awesome sauce from Moto is like first. There is accounting for taste. If everyone agreed on everything this sure would be a boring world.

    • Stephen Garriques

      They’ve managed to make the logo
      dimple on the back a complete eye sore along with making the camera look
      comically oversized. We know it’s a Motorola phone. No need to make the
      logo on the back obnoxiously obvious. The original design for the back
      looks a lot better, cleaner, and modern. The new back looks like
      something from 2007. A step back in the wrong direction design wise

  • BlackMaGiC1o0

    “ahh @evleaks pissing off manufacturers since 2012”

    • ToddAwesome

      and kids, and the parents of said kids…

  • Michael Contreras

    It could look better, but you’re insane if you think it looks ugly. I’ve seen worse, cough Bionic, cough.

    • Godzilla

      hey, i wasnt ugly

      • Justin W

        I concur (the phone, anyway). I thought it was a beast. Then, the Razr spawned.

  • Josh

    Larger screen, larger dimple, larger camera, and I swear it has larger bezels, too.

    • sj0808

      I think this wins the worst looking phone of 2014.

      • hkklife

        No, that title is securely held by the gold GS5.

        • sj0808

          Sorry but i have to disagree. The new moto x is unforgivablely ugly. At least you can swap back cover on GS5..

          • guesswhat

            you can moto make x+1

          • koopadoop

            Allegedly… That factory is closing down and they haven’t really said they are moving it to NC or using the one in Asia.

  • FortitudineVincimus

    I actually like the carbon style textured look and feel of the “old” back. A wood back phone.. yuck!

    I would take the white one, and replace with a different back off ebay when people started cranking them out.

  • Agunimon

    Interesting seeing the flash around the camera lens instead being on the side. Can’t wait to see it in action.

  • Jake from state farm

    anyone else notice the new messaging icon?

    • FortitudineVincimus

      look close, all 5 are new not just messaging.

      • Ryan

        More like the standard Kitkat icons, plus the Verizon Messaging app.

        • FortitudineVincimus

          was just implying that from “old” to “new” all of the icons changed, not just messaging.

    • That’s the verizon messenger app.

  • Godzilla

    Cant wait until you all hear about the off contract price. Then you will stop bitching about it’s looks.

    • NexusPhan

      God, I hope you’re right.

    • Dave

      You will be disappointed

      • spearman792

        Pretty sure he meant that we would stop bitching about looks and start bitching about price

        • Godzilla

          no, i mean when you see the price, you’ll gladly disregard the looks

          • spearman792

            I’m not falling for that again. Not after last year! I’m expecting at least $499 off-contract

          • Godzilla

            499 would be pushing it……..but acceptable. I am actually betting on $449 for 16GB. The price of the 360 indicating a level head here.

          • moew

            Looks to be a $349 phone off contract and unlocked… oh wait, that already exists!

          • Justin Kos

            499 is not acceptable for me when I can just get a Nexus or OPO

          • hkklife

            Same here. $499 16GB full retail, $549 32GB, $599 64GB (not on VZW)

      • mustbepbs

        Per Sarge.

    • Bryan Mills

      Uhuh what did your buddy Sarge say? Prob nothing that will come out to be true.

    • Greyhame

      Don’t you ever learn?

    • koopadoop

      Why do cheap phones have to be ugly? Plenty of cheap things can be designed well.

  • Rolando Chapa

    It looks, well, I think It looks like a Motorola phone.
    They were never gorgeous, except the wood variants.
    Just a leak, let’s wait and see what the final product looks like. And software

    • Josh

      I love the way my moto x looks

  • chris125

    Nice verizon messaging logo. Not sure how I feel about the look and that huge logo on the back, moto should have kept the small motorola logo on the back.

  • Dave

    This phone is crap zone of waste your money on it!

    • Dave

      Don’t waste your money*

  • sj0808

    So.. top bezel is bigger than bottom? Oh god this is so ugly.

    • NexusPhan

      Same as it was in the Moto X…

  • Alex B

    Ugly phone motorola.

    • NexusPhan

      Looks like a big Moto e with much slimmer bezels. And the Moto e is an elegant phone in person, even tho it’s ugly in the pictures. I’m really liking the black one.

      • Alex B

        I think even if it does look decent in person it should look great in pictures because those renders aren’t gonna sell units.

        • NexusPhan

          Absolutely agree. The Moto E renders were the same and hopefully it will be the same here. The white one just looks horrible.

      • Dave

        Looks like a toy phone, no thank you!

    • Dave

      Agree, I can’t imagine wasting my money on this company that Google sold!

  • Droid Ronin

    I wonder if 11:35 has any significance…

    • Greg Madhere

      September 17th release date?

    • Suicide_Note

      Of course it does. It’s November 35th, silly!

  • Jpx

    The problem that I am seeing is the scale. The speakers are too large, should of made them thinner and less pronounced. The Camera ring is a bit too large. But the biggest eye sore is the logo. It is far too large and the spacing between that and the camera could be much better. I will wait until I see a physical model, but so far I think Im waiting for the Nexus 6

    • kashtrey

      I agree somewhat, but you can’t just go shrinking the speakers while still trying to go for quality sound. I’m still holding out hope that you can customize the speaker grill color to get them to “disappear.” It’s possible they are using contrasting colors for the speaker grill in the renders so that people know it’s a feature.

      • Jpx

        Trust me I know that that can’t go shrinking the speakers, but just following what the original moto X had and making it larger is such an eye sore. Look at how the moto X does it, I mean look at the back of the moto X. this is so much more aesthetically pleasing then a huge gap in my opinion. Very true about the possible color changes, but I’ll definitely be getting black if they look like that

    • abqnm

      What if the logo happened to be more than a logo? Maybe a heart rate sensor? Maybe it is magnetic and is some sort docking point for an accessory? I can’t say for sure, but I am betting on it being more than just a logo.

      • Jpx

        I definitely think its going to be something functional. I still feel like the fingerprint scanner theory is still the best one. But either way, this doesn’t need to be that big. I mean it looks almost 2.5 x larger.

        • abqnm

          So I saw the leaked photo of the device that was posted earlier and I have to say I am starting to doubt it is anything optical, so heart rate and fingerprint are less likely.

          I think my wishful thinking got the best of me. I am now leaning more toward it being customizable in Moto Maker. The leaked image looks like the logo is actually cloth, which could indicate some interesting added touches, if that is indeed the case and it isn’t just the photo.

          Or maybe my original theory holds and it will be something different. Maybe it is radar assisted auto focus for the camera. Who knows.

          As for the size, it looks like it was made to match the camera. I do agree though that it could be smaller.

  • sj0808

    Moto Ugly X+1

  • Matt Lang

    I like the front of the new one, but the back of the old one looks a lot better imo

    • Josh

      My exact thoughts, couldn’t say it better!

  • Mario

    OLD FTW

    • Godzilla

      the old one had the offset microphone, eww

      • Mario

        LOL true new looks like it has surround sound mic

  • Godzilla

    New FTW

    • sj0808

      FUGLY LOL

      • Godzilla

        get a case

        • sj0808

          Based on purely render image above, this has to be the ugliest phone to date. Lol

          • Miguel Angel Portela

            I hope if Moto does make a Nexus that it sure as hell doesn’t look like that

    • koopadoop

      This is obviously a bad render (or at least I hope so), the back looks cartoony bad. The front does look better on the black one though