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“Moto X+1” Under Model XT1097 Shows Up in Benchmark, Outs More Specs

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When it comes to leaks or information about unreleased devices, benchmarks are almost always hit or miss. In fact, you should almost never fully buy into the data that they provide because from one day to the next, they could show off completely different information for what they claim is the exact same device. With that said, they do often open the bucket of paint to help manufacturers go all Picasso during a press event, so we still like to see them, especially when we are only a couple of weeks away from an unveiling.

And that’s why we are taking a quick look this morning at yet another purported benchmark for the next Moto X, which was long ago dubbed unofficially as the Moto X+1

The benchmark, spotted by one of our readers over at GFXBench, shows a Motorola device under the model number XT1097, which is close to a model number we saw on a Verizon test box (XT1096) a couple of weeks back. We also saw this number in a benchmark last week that shows identical information to today’s benchmark.

In this new test, we are seeing  a device that sports a 5.2-inch FHD display (1920×1080), 2.45 or 2.5GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon 801, Adreno 330 GPU, 2GB RAM, 10GB available storage (likely 16GB total), 12MP rear camera, 2MP front camera, Android 4.4.4, and all of your standard sensors.

That all sounds pretty good to me. You are looking at a device that is similar in specs to the HTC One (M8) and Samsung Galaxy S5, however, we know Motorola will optimize the hell out of the chipset and also toss in a handful of amazing features, like Active Display. If the new Moto X looks like this and has a spec list like this benchmark suggests, plus may be customizable through MotoMaker, are you in?

Everything becomes official on September 4.

moto x1 benchmark

Via:  GFXBench
Cheers Justin!
  • Name

    Glad I got the G3 and didnt wait around for Moto.

  • Droidrazr

    Cloud storage is a JOKE. Give us at least 32/64gb or an SD card slot. Heck I’d even take another 720p display if they made 64gb standard (I know it’s unpopular opinion but oh well.) Switched from HTC one M7 to a Droid maxx and I can barely tell the difference in screens.

  • itsdmise

    I’d get it once it’s time to upgrade. Maybe wood this customization time around?

  • AbbyZFresh

    Now it’s just another boring high-end android phone. The only thing Moto about this phone is just the name. The only thing saving this is the X8 chip currently used in the original Moto X for the Active Display and Touchless Control.

  • Cesar

    What, no barometer?

  • Jeremy Gross

    dat storage…. quite possibly a moto g just saying its possible know how radical motorola is becoming

  • droidrazredge

    I’ve been using a Moto-X since last December and hands down it has been the best phone I’ve ever owned from the speedy and timely updates to the custom X8 architecture with Active Display, Touch-less Controls, and Moto Assist. I could not have asked for anything more in a phone. My next phone will be the X+1 or perhaps the new Nexus (wishful thinking on Verizon >.<) ONLY because I want to get in one last phone to extend my UDP contract before my upgrade loopholes are closed on Verizon

  • haroldhendu

    you know how you can differentiate your android site from the several other Android sites out there? good writing.

    this is not good writing: “When it comes to leaks or information about unreleased devices, benchmarks are almost always hit or miss.”

  • droidrazredge

    hmmm comparing these specs to those questionable Nexus 6 specs from http://www.droid-life.com/2014/08/13/motorola-shamu-nexus-allegedly-shows-up-in-questionable-benchmarks-outing-specs/ makes you wonder even if those specs were true why is there a big jump in memory from 1.8 GB – 2.9 GB and a bit jump in the GPU from an Arduino 330 – Arduino 420 , and a slight 200 MHz jump in ARM clock speed if they are both running near stock versions of Android. Why is the extra horsepower needed ? is it because the X10 Architecture would not be included ? I doubt that, so my guess would be as good as anyone else’s as to why such a drastic change in specs with them both being 5.2″ screens but with different screen resolutions. Anyone’s thoughts ?

  • Fooer

    Dat phablet size … 🙁

  • B Brad

    Add wireless charging and a battery door and I’m in.

    • NBMTX

      I don’t think LG’s curved battery tech is replaceable. The design benefits are worth more, imo.

      • B Brad

        What does “LG curved battery tech” have to do with the motorola x+1?

        • NBMTX

          Quite a bit. One of the great things about the Moto X is it’s ergonomic curvature, which is achieved using LG Chem produced stepped batteries. I’m assuming LG’s now curved (as opposed to stepped) batteries are going to be used in the X+1 to achieve similar [awesome] ergonomics.

          • B Brad

            Ah, interesting, I didn’t know that. Doesn’t look that curved, kinda similar to my GNex. Should be interesting to see.

        • NBMTX

          it’s probably inside of the Motorola X+1 like it was the X… which allowed the fantastic curvature of the device. Hopefully we get more of that well thought out design in the X+1.
          (I thought I posted an answer already, but maybe not?)

  • RoadsterHD1

    This is going to blow the competition out of the water. X10 computing optimized, I’m thinking 45000 plus on AnTuTu.

  • sparty569

    This looks to be awesome. The question I have is, do we know if the Nexus 6 will have the X8 operation sub system? If it does, why get the X+1 over the Nexus 6? If not, it is obvious that the X+1 is the way to go.

  • RGiskard

    No barometer? No sale…

  • Vanquishgc

    Had me until 16 gb storage. Damn, no go for me now. Would have been just fine with 32, but 16 with no SD…….come on man….. 🙁

    • sirmeili

      Its a benchmark, so it is the specs for that very specific phone (not the model). So just because the phone tested had 16GB of storage, does not mean there will not be other options (they currently offer 16, 32 and 64).

      Also the benchmark used does not indicate if the phone has an SD card, so you have no way of knowing if it will have one or not.

      • Vanquishgc

        Well two things: first, Google is all about no SD storage so I have no hope of that. And yes, there probably will be other options for storage. Problem is, carriers only get the 16 gb models, so if you want a 32 or 64 gb model, you have to order online and pay retail. That part is going to be an issue with many folks who don’t have that kind of cash to spend.

        • sirmeili

          And yet Motorola has a phone with an SD slot. So my statement holds true: You have no way of knowing right now if it will or will not have an SD slot.

          As to the storage, I did not know that, so I’ll give you that. I guess the thing is, if you want to have that feature, pay for it. Not saying it’s “right” or “Fair”, but not everything in life is unfortunately.

        • cns2007

          “Problem is, carriers only get the 16 gb models, so if you want a 32 or 64 gb model, you have to order online and pay retail. ”

          Don’t know where you are getting that from. I purchased a Verizon 32GB for my son.

          • Vanquishgc

            Was it in store, or ordered though? Because generally stores won’t keep a stock of the higher storage models. For instance, my store never has any 32 gb iPhones, because there’s just no demand thanks to the pricing. So if someone wants one, we gotta order it. In the case of the X though, we’ve never been able to order a 32 gb to have delivered to the store. I realize I’m comparing 2 very different phones, I’m just trying to give an example is all.

          • cns2007

            I see what you are saying. It was online through Motomaker and shipped to my home, but I was referring more to the part where you said “retail”. Did you mean full “retail” price there? Because that wasn’t the case for me.

          • Vanquishgc

            Generally yes, I did, but I get that there’s been deals on the X from time to time. So yeah, you can order one, but you’re not gonna walk into a store and get one cheaper on contract. That’s where 16 gb thing sucks.

  • donnydon

    The 801 is the Exact same as the 800 just tuned differently. Either way its 805 or nothing. The iPhone 5s STILL has the fastest processor and beat GPU and it came out last year. Android still hasn’t caught up in that dept.It looks like I might ditch android for iPhone this time.

  • Frankiie

    I call it “GARBAGE”

  • RoboCop

    Sounds perfect to me. Dropbox and google drive are plenty for storing files/photos and I don’t have that many games. Just let me have it for $400 and through Motorola’s financing on MotoMaker

  • mgamerz

    Honestly how many people (NON-TECHNIES!) use more than a few GB on their phone? Most people don’t even know how to use a smartphone to half their potential.

  • William_Morris

    Considering that my Moto X isn’t lagging even remotely, I’m not as tempted as I anticipated with this phone. However, the last “Googlerola” phone may be worth the purchase.

  • Matthew Rebmann

    I’m really hoping the Metal band that surrounds the edge is merely because of the back being wood. Similar to how on the Current Moto X the wooden pack is surrounded by plastic. The combination of plastic front, metal middle and wooden back is god awful looking.. I love the svelt feel of the original X. The Button on the back also looks flimsy :/ along with the Moto E bars on the front… I can’t say anything about it looks attractive to me. So upsetting considering I love the X so damn much. I suppose my opinions are all subjective and there are people out there who like it but it just seems so… slapped together. Hopefully Moto Maker really shines with this one. Chime in, tell me what you guys all think? I try not to sound so negative usually.

    • guesswhat

      that’s definitely a early prototype im sure final one will be way better, I remember last year when moto x picture leaked initially it looked so awefull , infact people refused to believe it could be moto x the new flagship Motorola product, until a picture came out with eric schmidt holding a finished moto x product, people started realizing that its a good looking phone.

      • Matthew Rebmann

        That makes good hearing. I can’t seem to remember what the leaked photo’s looked like. I do remember the Schmidt photo though… I lusted HARD when I saw that photo. Edit: Though I’m not really in the market for a new phone this year. I still love my Moto X, regardless of the Burn-In issues I’m noticing.

    • LSH99

      Doesn’t look like real metal to me. I think it looks like the gray, faux-metal plastic that surrounds the Galaxy S4.

      • Matthew Rebmann

        it seems to have a more brushed look to it, which makes it seem more real to me?

    • Hothfox

      Um, yeah, I’m with you. That leak was not a good looking phone.

    • Higher_Ground

      I’m 100% into the phone for the wooden backs (well, the rest is just gravy) so if they don’t offer a similar choice of materials this time around I’m going to really wish I bought the moto X back in december last year.
      I don’t like the metal band either and hope it’s not part of the final design. The button I assume will be more refined, too. It definitely looked slapped together, but I”m not sure how seriously I’d take that leak to begin with.

  • mcdonsco

    There are two things it MUST HAVE this go round for me to consider…a large battery (3k mah or better) and a great camera.

    If it lacks either of those it will be a pass.

  • Paul Hansen

    Let’s hope they pull what they did @ I/O and do the “and you can buy it today!” at the announcement along with the 360.

  • mcdonsco

    Yaaaaaawwwnn….

  • Daniel Walsh

    Last year I was not impressed with the Moto X. This looks better though.

  • Daniel Walsh

    The benchmark says 800. Not 801.

    • Justtyn Hutcheson

      The 801 is an overclocked 800. They show up in benchmarks as the same processor. The GS5 and M8 CPU SoC specs match this one exactly.

  • W. Paul Schenck

    My Moto X experience has been great so far. I will say the same thing as everyone else… “Specs don’t matter if the phone runs butter smooth and does the things you want to do.” I would like a little bigger screen, maybe around 5.65″, but this looks like something to try out.

    Oh yea, and a package deal with the Moto 360!

  • Droon

    I accidentally took my Nexus 5 swimming with me. It LOVED the water.

    Needless to say, I am now in the market for a new phone. If they offer an affordable, *off-contract* package with the moto 360, I would definitely consider a day 1 purchase. If not, I will probably just wait out until the next Nexus is announced.

    • Justtyn Hutcheson

      If they offer a package with the 360, I wouldn’t be surprised to see it drop in around $650-700. The X+1 itself will likely be $450, which would mean the 360 would be $200-250 over that, which would be a great deal when compared to $200-230 for the other Wear devices especially given the reported difference in battery life alone, let alone the difference in construction/quality and addition of wireless charging.

      • Droon

        I think the max I would be willing to go on a combo with the 360 would be $600. Maybe $650.

        I don’t really need a watch, but the 360 seems pretty cool. I could be convinced if the price is right.

      • NBMTX

        I was set on the Moto X being $450 since it was a Google Company and it had practical specs, but it launched at a ridiculous $580 min price… and we saw how well that went… now that they’re putting in comparable hardware, I expect it to be priced like any other flagship.
        Hopefully my expectations are wrong though.

        • Higher_Ground

          they also delayed the wooden backs, and initially charged $100 for them. If I can’t get a moto X+1 with a wooden back for a modest (re: $25) mark-up at launch I’m going to be pretty dissapointed.

  • cgalyon

    Would like a stronger camera, but otherwise intrigued

    • trixnkix637

      I wasn’t disappointed with it, but I certainly wasn’t impressed either.

  • LSH99

    I love everything about the current moto x… except the price. It was cheap, but it needed to be–its specs don’t stack up to the flagships. If they can make this new one competitive with the new Nexus (or even the OnePlus One) price-wise, I’m in.

    • trixnkix637

      Yet it was still widely considered the better phone when compared to those flagships. Remember specs mean nothing if you can’t use the phone readily & as intended. *Stares at Touchwiz glaringly*

      • LSH99

        Absolutely. Active notifications, near-stock Android, and the form factor were really great features for many people. (I’m sure the customizability was attractive for some, too, although I dont care about it.) They are the main reasons I love it, actually, but it needs the specs to justify a big price tag. That’s all I’m saying. I mean, as awesome as that phone is, it didnt sell all that great, despite the relatively low price. It needs to be similarly cheap and or have some pretty knock-out software features to compete with the OPO and Nexus this time around.

        • trixnkix637

          I think the phone not selling great was due to Moto not having the big marketing budget to compete with the Samsungs & LGs of the world. But I certainly agree if I’m paying +$600 for a phone it better be a spec beast. I just enjoyed that the X showed you can have a great looking phone, that responds how it should with actual useful features for less than $400.

        • cns2007

          I agree with trixkix637. The price isn’t what prevented this phone from selling well. The average consumer really doesn’t have a clue about processors and other hardware, in relation to cost. That said, I think Motorola didn’t miss an opportunity to price it lower than it’s competitors. The marketing for this phone was the real killer. IMHO, it was terrible.

    • NBMTX

      The Moto X wasn’t cheap imo, it launched at $580+… and the custom X8 system was really ahead of it’s time in a way.

      Performance wise, our current flagships usually have similar internals to one another with differences being made by software or in external hardware/casing/chassis features such as water resistance, a fingerprint scanner, dual cameras, or metal design. We might appreciate how the skin allows Android to work, but they’re not necessarily very different from one another.
      The X is still unique [as a multi-carrier device], with it’s unique features essentially always available and active, as an experience combining it’s hardware and software. Stock Android means it’s open for any individual to change it to their preference, vs an OEMs brand’s recognition via software.

  • guest

    no barometer??? no buy.

    • Droon

      I use my phone exclusively for the barometer. It’s a deal breaker.

  • Curtis Black

    I understand why people want to be spec-whores, but it’s much more important to look at user experience. Look at the GS5 – great specs, but slow as can be thanks to touchwiz.

    • PoisonApple31

      You need to understand some people do not value the user experience of stock Android or the things added by Moto in the Moto X. The user experience is a subjective experience.

      • Curtis Black

        You’re right, stock android isn’t for everyone nor is everything that is unique to the Moto X, but that’s not my point. I don’t want to keep harping on TouchWIz, but that skin is so heavy and bloated that it will take any phone with top specs and turn it sluggish. My Moto X still rarely struggles to do anything unless it’s extremely demanding.

        • Charles Walker

          I went from a Moto X to an LG G2 and the Moto X was undeniably faster. The G2 has been quite disappointing with how much it can lag sometimes.

      • Bruce

        I hate stock android. I tried like so many times, but all failed.

  • GPier

    It’s already out dated. The G3 has better specs.

    Not saying these are bad specs, but it’s really not that big of an update from the current Moto X. Same goes for the G2 (my current phone) to G3. Which is why I have not upgraded. I think I may have to wait for the Note 4.

    • guesswhat

      I have to say it’s not.. in fact better than g3 which is using qhd with 801 chip

    • Justtyn Hutcheson

      Moving from an S4 Pro and 720p to an 801 and 1080p is pretty massive moving from the original X to this.
      Only thing “better” in the G3 is the QHD screen (marginally useful, I’d rather have a super-high-quality 1080p than a mediocre first-gen QHD), and 3GB in the 32GB version, which isn’t really useful now or in the near future, especially with Google actively reducing RAM usage across the board in KitKat and further reducing it in L.
      Agree though, it is most definitely a lateral upgrade for the G2 spec-wise.

    • SA_NYC

      Screen size has jumped considerably. That was the initial reason I didn’t consider the X, 4.7″ won’t cut it for me. I love the 5.5″ size I had on my Note 2 and now G3, but 5.2″ might just make the cut, especially now that it’s up to FHD.

  • Eric Sorensen

    My year-old Note 3 has better specs. 3GB ram, USB3, bigger and replaceable battery, MicroSD card, minimum 32GB, etc. Apparently, it’s pointless to compare specs on the new Motorola phones because they are a year behind, but people say the phones run good. I bet you only notice the spec difference when playing graphics-heavy games.

    • guesswhat

      Nope not even then .. In fact moto x performs better with graphic intensive games with great frame rate

      • Eric Sorensen

        Well, the current Moto X isn’t pushing 1920×1080 pixels, so “better” may be relative.

    • alberteezy

      It doesn’t confirm if it has an SD card slot or how big the battery is.

    • trixnkix637

      It’s a case of customer needs. I couldn’t care less if the battery is removable or has an sd card. Actually, not having that saves me money in the long run. You know how many sd cards & extra batteries I had to carry around for my old GNex? Never again friend. I’d rather have a great user experience with minimal bloat and near stock Android than what Sammy is putting out these days.

      • Eric Sorensen

        That’s all true. For me, if I’m flying all day, I like an extra battery so I play games on the flight and don’t have to be a “wall hugger”. I also like to back up my phone with the SD card, and use it to move stuff to my new phone. And using Nova launcher, I don’t notice the Touchwhiz. Samsung has good cameras, too. I think I will stick with the Note series phones. They fill my customer needs.

    • cns2007

      Seems to do okay with games to me.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDgaWt7PyAU

      • Eric Sorensen

        Yes, it looks OKAY.

  • OneForTheGoodDays

    No Barometer!!!? I’M OUT.

  • TheDave1022

    Need battery size and if it has SD slot. Too bad RAM wasnt upped to 3 GB

    • hkklife

      2GB is OK *for now* due to Moto’s minimal UI bloat but I worry about its longevity down the road.
      no microSD slot is a massive disappointment, especially considering its standard on Moto G LTE and Moto E and everyone has gone back to it this year.
      We still need battery capacity info, agreed!
      Also disappointing is 16GB base storage, especially if its not expandable.

      • TheDave1022

        Hopefully there is another model with more storage. If there is no SD slot, would have to think there is a 16, 32, and maybe a 64 GB version.

      • Justtyn Hutcheson

        Google is actively cracking down on RAM usage between Svelte in KK and ART in L, and they are pushing devs hard to slim their own apps down. I wouldn’t worry about 2GB RAM. If Samsung, HTC and LG are good with it, then I wouldn’t worry about it with Moto whose UI, as you mentioned, is less RAM-hungry than any of their UIs.

        No concrete info yet on the presence or absence of an SD slot, though I’d lean towards “yes” as there are very few reasons not to include one with the SAF and the improvements already seen in L.

      • Bryan

        Let’s be honest, you won’t keep the phone long enough to have to worry about “future” needs of more RAM. People always think this is going to be the last phone they buy and it needs to last them several years. In reality, they upgrade the phone after 1 or 2 years and future proofing doesn’t really matter.

        My Moto X with 2GB RAM always has about 1GB free. My wife’s S5, though, with 2GB RAM only has about 400MB free. So if you want a phone with tons of bloat, then yeah, 3GB is probably needed.

        I don’t know what in the near future would require more RAM than what I already have. The stock OS is getting leaner and more efficient, not more bloated. Maybe if you play some intense games that have huge RAM requirements, but even then, I think we are a ways off of actually needing 3GB or more of RAM on stock Android.

  • Cael

    The Moto X is Android’s iPhone!

  • Ralph Bretz

    Unless there’s a slot for micro SD card they have to ditch the 16GB.
    I can’t wait to get one since I’m ditching Verizon finally but seriously.

  • MichaelFranz

    the camera needs to be on par with the S5. the camera on the moto x/droid form 2013 while they werent terrible they arent nearly as good as the S5. Sd card would be a very nice addition too but we will see. So far it all looks good. Hoping for a 3000mah battery too

  • Jeff C

    Even though I love my current Moto X, I’m going to have a real hard time not giving it up for the X+1 or a Moto Nexus.

  • rawson815

    I’m sure they will have 32 GB option … MINE!!!!!!!!!

  • Looking good so far. Specs aren’t everything. Optimization in the Moto X proved that you don’t need the fastest CPU to perform.

  • hyperbeatser

    I *hope* it doesn’t look like that awful, hopefully early prototype, model that was leaked.

  • NigelTark

    I would consider it, but if there is no sdcard, then there is no chance.

  • Paul

    If the new nexus is indeed 5.9″, then I’m definitely in for the X+1.

  • Ballerado

    I was contemplating jumping from the G3 but I can’t give up 96gb of storage for 16gb…

    • NigelTark

      Same here.

    • Justtyn Hutcheson

      Geekbench doesn’t indicate if a device has an SD slot or not, so that is still up in the air. The very first spec leak listed one, the pictures don’t show anything but a suspiciously tall SIM card cover, so we have no idea yet.

      • Ballerado

        SD slot would be a gamechanger. I don’t own a tablet so I’ve been using my G3 for videos and music when I travel. 16gb would hold MAYBE a couple 720p movies.

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          The 10GB free it shows above would hold ~4 hours of video (@ 5Mbps) with about 2GB for apps/music, so yeah, gotta agree there.

  • Tony Spencer

    I’m wanting and waiting for something like my Droid Maxx. MOTO MAXX?

  • Silver Veloz

    Just almost a year into the first Moto X, I’m not ready to switch to a new phone. Still loving it. If I were in line for an upgrade, yes, I would definitely look into this. People are complaining about the 16G. It will probably be available with 32 and maybe 64G also. I think the 5.2 might be a great size. Nothing bigger for me (at this point). I’ll see what comes out the following year, when my contract is up. Thanks Moto. Moto360 is tempting.

    • droidrazredge

      I totally agree with you in regards to my Moto X. It’s the perfect phone for me, something I could not say about other phones I’ve owned prior to this in the past. I have yet to see it have lag, something I could defintiely say about other phones after owning it about the same amount of time. I get timely updates and I’m on the latest version of android only weeks after Nexus devics get the update, something I could I never ever saw on other phones. Between the touchless controls, active display, and moto assist I don’t see myself updating for a while. The only reason I’d want to upgrade was to take advantage of the last few Verizon loopholes so I could keep my unlimited and get which will most likely be the last Verizon phone I can upgrade to without losing my unlimited data plan.

  • Me

    On a positive note this thing might be $400 off contract. Bundled w/ the 360 or that wireless headset they have for a packaged price.

    • sirmeili

      If it were bundled for a decent price, say $600-700 for the pair, I would get both with out a second thought….I’d likely get them both (I plan to) for more, but I would have to think about the timing.

  • Todd Bettenhausen

    I’ve been using a Moto-X since last December and it’s been the best phone I’ve ever owned. My next phone will be the X+1 or perhaps the new Nexus (but only if it’s made by Motorola and has all the unique goodies of the X).

    • Riz Virani

      Why would a Nexus phone have the goodies of the X?

      • The current rumor, that Android Police broke a few weeks ago, states that Google has wanted Motorola’s X stuff for a while now. That they’ve been working together on incorporating it into the Nexus phones.

        This kind of goes well with another rumor (that’s been accidentally confirmed by Google Now at this point) that Google wants something called Google Hands-Free in the OS eventually.

        • grumpyfuzz

          I still doubt that these kind of features would be built into aosp

          • Google Hands Free is pretty much confirmed at this point so it’ll probably be built into Google Now but not all phones would be able to access it.

            Not to mention there’s a ton of things the Nexus 5 can do that no other phone seems to be able to do such as low power usage when you’re only playing music. There’s a core in the 5 that specifically handles that, for example.

          • Jason B

            Google services aren’t AOSP. Google features are closed source, so Google Hands-Free won’t be available via AOSP. The Nexus phones/tablets aren’t completely AOSP because of that.

          • grumpyfuzz

            Yea I know that google services aren’t aosp, and hands free will be built into Google search/now. I was talking about some moto x like features, some people said it would have it’s own version of active display. That would mean it would have to be built into aosp, or it would be it’s own seperate Google app just for that.

    • alberteezy

      Since Motorola released those apps in the play store, maybe they can be compatible with the new moto nexus? 😀

      • Justtyn Hutcheson

        You’re reaching bud. Those apps are mostly an interface between Android and their custom sub-system. A Moto Nexus may use the SD800 on-die DSPs, but no way it would have their proprietary work in it.

        • alberteezy

          Aww. Moto x+1 it is then lol

    • Higher_Ground

      so even though it’s the best phone you’ve ever owned you still aren’t going to keep it for a full 2 years?

  • Kassidy Klink

    I think these specs are fine, but I think the real issue is timing. Moto needs to stop releasing flagship phones in the second half of the year. We’ve had the GS5 and the One (m8) for most of the year already, so releasing something with similiar specs while valid for a flag, seems stale to a lot of us phone nerds. I’m on a GS2, and will probably consider this for a lateral upgrade (I am a sucker for Moto build quality, radio, gps, and os-variant), but I think they definitely need to consider moving up these release events to around the same time as Samsung and HTC. As an aside, it really doesn’t matter what anyone else releases in September due to the annual new iPhone.

  • Me

    No prob w/ 2GB of RAM but 16 gigs? Cmon Moto. At least put a micro SD slot in there.

  • Z

    Waterproof?

  • jimt

    16 gig is a joke

  • AngryBadger

    No OpenGL ES 3.1 either.

  • Michael Persico

    Says Snapdragon 800 not 801

    • Xavier_NYC

      remember moto doesn’t really go for specs with this phone it’s more about software optimization so I’m not surprised.. But I’m holding out for a Nexus..

    • Justtyn Hutcheson

      The 801 identifies in Geekbench as an 800 because it is little more than an overclocked version. Same is seen for the One M8 and the GS5.

      • Limey

        Thank ya for that bit o’ clarification, good sir.

    • Jordi Agricola

      Normal 800s only go up to 2.3GHz, this one is 2.5GHz. The 800 and 801 are basically the same chip at different clock speeds, that’s why they both show up as an s800.

  • James

    I hope the Motorola Nexus will build on this size factor with beefed up specs.

    It will be hard for me to get excited about the X+1 until more information about the Nexus comes out.

  • hfoster52

    What no Barometer!!!!

  • Xavier_NYC

    Interesting. Thought they might bump up the Ram since that’s the trend at the moment. Then again Android L will be more efficient so probably wont even notice the difference when it it finally on the X + 1.. More onboard storage would be nice.. 32GB should be the minimum

    • Nikuliai

      16 plus an SD slot (128gb support) would be enough for most of the users out there

  • ZeeX1

    But it does not have a barometer… lol!

    • hfoster52

      Ha. Said the same thing.

    • breadable

      No Barometer? I’m out

  • Dave Watts

    Mediocre specs- NOT similar to M8 or S5 (16GB, 1.8GB, 12/2MP…? Meh.). Let’s hope this is not the new X.

    • hfoster52

      Last year specs. Note 3 has the same processor. So it will be quick but when looking at a S5, G3, and the M8 vs this you will have to look at price.

      • Xavier_NYC

        Chances are the Moto X will cost the same as newer phones that’s why I didn’t buy the original one.. But the average consumer wouldn’t know or care about that..

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          Doubting they will put it back up at $550+ for the 16GB. I am looking for it to drop in at $450-ish for the base, $500 for the 32 GB and $550 for the 64GB. That’s not quite Nexus pricing, but well south of their competitors. Fair value, I think.

    • Mark

      Honest question, what are you looking for. My best friend had an S4 that out “benchmarked” my moto x, although his phone takes better pictures he often uses my phone to make phone calls and is on his 3rd S4, this maybe a unique experience, but why do specs matter so much to people if the performance is awful? My phone is 9 months old and has not has “ANY” lag the first phone I’ve ever owned to still be that way. I just don’t get it

    • Jordi Agricola

      How is this not similar to an S5 or M8? Snapdragon 801, full HD display, 2GB RAM. The M8, S5, and X+1 (apparently) all have this.

    • Justtyn Hutcheson

      Actually, its specs are virtually identical to the M8 & GS5, 5+” 1080p, SD 801, 16GB ROM, 2GB RAM, 2 MP FFC. Only difference is a 12MP rear cam, but the G3 is 13MP and takes fantastic shots for a mobile, so it could still be a really great cam. And we don’t know if it will have an SD card, which would but it even closer to those two.

      Funny how ZOMG AWESOME can be “mediocre” 6 months later when there isn’t really anything better available that would make a tangible difference.

  • Tony Byatt

    Not bad…

    Only issue I see is manufacturers’ refusal to kill the 16GB option…

    • Paul Hansen

      So buy the 32 or 64 variants?

    • sirmeili

      I have a 32gb, but I could easily make it on the 16gb option. I stream everything. The only space hog is my pictures, which I could just go through every once in a while and thin out or backup.

  • michael hill

    It would be nice if it had more on board storage.

  • FortitudineVincimus

    Come on, why not 3gb RAM.

    • evilfatcow

      Supposedly with Android L, it’s going to use less memory.

      • hfoster52

        Less memory and using the newer run time.

    • jimt

      Why not 4. /s

      • FortitudineVincimus

        It use to be 1, then some went to 2 and now 2 seems to be the sticking point. Some push to 3, but most stay at 2. Given what we do with our phones and multitask and the OS, 2 is tight now. 3 “should” be a minimum at this point and certainly on new flagship phones.

        • jimt

          I don’t have a problem with 4 even if it is to much, why mess around if you can use more than 3 gig.

        • grumpyfuzz

          the note 4 is rumored to have 4g of ram, maybe samsung will add a gig of ram for every note? note 5 – 5g of ram lol

    • Justtyn Hutcheson

      Because even in Kit Kat it’s completely unnecessary, and L will further make it less useful? The extra savings can be put into improvements elsewhere, such a better screen, bump the SoC from 800 to 801, etc. When looking at mass-market devices, the $1-2 difference between including 2GB and 3GB RAM is *huge*.

  • Guest

    (Slaps Motorola with newspaper) No, Bad Moto, No 16GB,

    • Miguel

      Also this are last years specs, processor, GPU, ram…
      Now let’s get something clear, for them to keep the price down, they had to cut corners somewhere, the OG moto x didn’t have the best specs when it came out so it only make sense that they go the same rout as last year.

      • How is the 801 last year?

        • Matthew DiGiacomo

          ITS THE 800

          • Except it’s not. Like someone said below. The 800 only goes up to 2.3, this one is at 2.5. The 801 identifies in Geekbench as an 800 because it is little more than an overclocked version. Same is seen for the One M8 and the GS5. Also your caps lock key appears to be broken.

          • Matthew DiGiacomo

            It’s possible its a modified version of the 800

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            If it is a modified 800 that runs at the exact same clock speed, and that was the only significant difference between the 800 and the 801 in the first place, then why is it inferior to the 801? Serious question.
            Performance is what matters most, not the model number, correct?

          • JMonkeYJ

            Here’s a great explanation of the differences:
            http://www.anandtech.com/show/7846/the-difference-between-snapdragon-800-and-801-clearing-up-confusion

            But to answer your question, it depends on which clocks they would be able to tweak, since there are many parts of the SoC running at varied frequencies. If they match the core clock speed, but the ISP can’t be clocked as high (as an example), that would be a significant disadvantage for camera functionality. Also, there would be no eMMC 5.0 support, but it’s not clear what impact that has on current gen phones.

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            The eMMC 5.0 support is interesting, but would require additional hardware (likely expensive) to get working as an advantage. As for the rest, if it is a custom 800 they could likely tweak it to their heart’s content. We have no idea if Motorola will even use the on-die DSPs and the like though, considering they have their own sub-system, though I wouldn’t be surprised to see them utilized for image capture, as you mentioned, and audio output processing (to make use of audio tunneling capabilities).

            All that said, I’m nearly 100% certain that it is an 801. Its setup matches the M8 and GS5 much too closely to be a truly custom job like the S4 Pro was last year.

          • NBMTX

            I hope it IS a modified SD800. If they can get both performance AND battery life out of the SD800/801 like they did the SD600-beating, X8 optmized, “S4 Pro”, then a modified/optimized SD801 is EXACTLY what I want.
            my GF’s Moto X is better than my Nexus 5 in that it’s design and size are great and it can actually make it through a day on a charge… the same was the case in November when it was the M7 vs GS4 vs N5 vs Moto X. Perhaps not the G2, due to it’s badass 3000mAh curved battery and quality camera.

          • guess what

            Its same processor as s5 and one m8 that released this year

          • Matthew DiGiacomo

            We’ll see but I doubt it

          • specs

            So you only care about specs on paper? Please help yourself and buy laggy Samsung and lg phones with great spec sheet s ..moto phoned are not for sheep like you

          • Matthew DiGiacomo

            You are a moron.

          • specs

            no sir you are

          • Rob

            Nothing laggy about my G2.

          • OreoMan

            It G2 runs smooth as well. Not sure where “specs” is getting that information from.

          • OreoMan

            My is what I meant.

          • Vanquishgc

            Hey now, leave LG out of it! Lol. Samsung is the true king of lag. I’ll give you that the G3 can be laggy at times, but a software patch can fix that. TouchWiz though……..that abomination needs to be killed with fire lol

          • Grayson

            Not exactly. Look at the clock speed. It is either an overclocked 800 (which would basically make it an 801), or it is in fact an 801 and this benchmark is just reporting it wrong.

        • I was about to ask the same thing. Phones with the 801 chipsets didn’t even start coming out until early this year. Besides, we should know from the previous Moto X that cutting edge specs aren’t necessary to deliver an exemplary Android experience. The 801 is FAST. I can’t slow down my HTC One M8 for anything. I can’t wait to see what Moto will have in store for this year’s X.

        • Big EZ

          It’s like a million years old in tech years. If the original X is anything to go by this may have the best performance until of any phone until late next year. The original X was better than other phones with (not considering optimizations) much higher specs. Spec wise this is much closer to up coming phones, so if they do as good with this as they did last time this should beat any 805 device.

          • FortitudineVincimus

            Sony Z3?

          • Big EZ

            What about the Z3?

          • Qwerty

            A million years old is a stretch, my friend. The 801 should be more than enough to power a device like the Moto X running stock Android.

          • Big EZ

            I was being sarcastic. It was announced less than 6 months ago, and people are calling it “last year’s tech”.

          • No.

            Except it doesn’t run stock android. It runs Moto’s theme-less version of Android.

        • Birtzer

          At this point, manufacturers should be going towards the Denver K1 of S810. Yes the X+1 will do it better, but people want next year stuff. Hopefully the N6 uses one of these to benchmark the 64 bit Android L OS.

          • Jason B

            The K1 runs hot, and the S810 won’t be available until 1Q 2015. So, how exactly are you going to design a phone without the hardware being available?

            The S805 would’ve been nice, but it has no integrated modem, so that requires more space on an already crowded PCB.

          • Birtzer

            I’m more than happy with my S800 N5. If it doesn’t have bleeding edge specs it gets called DOA. I’m not calling it that. With the other big names bragging fastest and biggest, Moto gets thought of as 2nd place. Its amazing what hardware/software optimization can do though. As long as its not running Touch Wiz, made of flimsy plastic, or full of bloat, I’m happy.

            I think that the current class of phones is specd out and its all marketing pushing numbers until the next class of silicon.

            I will be waiting for 64 bit to upgrade.

          • Jason B

            And what exactly will 64-bit support bring to mobile? 99% of apps will remain 32-bit, just like on the desktop.

            Addressing more than 4GB is good, but it’ll only matter if manufacturers ship phones/tablets with more than 4GB when 64-bit SoCs are released.

          • Birtzer

            It will bring more than a reclocked S800. Also will have a better GPU and better support for higher resolution cameras and screens(thinking tablets here) amongst other things.

          • NBMTX

            while the 64-bit advantage is debatable, the big.LITTLE design of the same next gen processors should be beneficial.

        • Miguel

          For a flag ship phone it is, it doesn’t matter if the GS5 or the M8 have it, this is going to come out in October most likely.

      • I like to complain

        You are a knuckle head plain and simple. What phone had these specs last year? Oh wait none!

      • kixofmyg0t

        Are we seriously going to do the “last year specs” thing again? Jesus Christ you people will never be happy.

        FYI if it makes you feel any better the 801(which is has) is just a binned 800. What was the difference between the S4 Pro in the 2013 Nexus 7 and the One M7? 200Mhz. Over clock it and you have a 600.

        Even if it had “just” the 800 is that enough to fault it? EDIT: So it has specs to match all the current flagship(except for S5 Prime and one I’m forgetting) and we’re gonna do the “OMG LAST YEAR SPECS” thing again?

        Hilarious.

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          Hell, even the 805 is more-or-less “last year’s specs”. It has the new 440 GPU, but that is a complete wash when mated to a QHD screen performance-wise.

          We won’t see “new” SoCs in phones until the 64-bit ones ship next year.

        • Vanquishgc

          Remember when people were freaking out when they found out the first X was going to have a dual core processor among other things that were considered yestertech? Yeah… Considering how it turned out (that is, awesome), maybe we should give them the benefit of the doubt this time….

      • Bruce

        to the majority, those are old specs.

      • Vanquishgc

        I see nothing wrong on the spec front. All of that looks good to me. With those specs running on near stock, the X+1 ought to fly. It’s the storage I have issue with

    • middlehead

      Why would they bother putting enormous amounts of storage in a test phone? The current sells with 16/32/64, there’s no reason to believe this one will STOP at 16.

    • Guest

      No MicoSD no Sale

      • Lucky Armpit

        Agreed. Flash memory is cheap. 32GB should be the absolute minimum, period, end of story. If you don’t want to include a MicroSD card slot, so be it. But in the current age when all carriers are charging based on data used, and people who want music and photos local, 16GB is laughable. Hope these specs are wrong.

        • Grayson

          Every other manufacturer still ships a 16GB variant of their flasgship, so I don’t see why Moto wouldn’t, especially considering they will likely try to hit a lower price point than the competition. At least Moto offers 32GB and 64GB versions of the X, unlike most other manufacturers.

          • Vanquishgc

            True, but carriers only get the 16 gb models (HTC and LG being the exceptions because they’re smart). So if you want more storage, you gotta go retail, and buy online, which many of us can’t do unfortunately. I know I don’t have the scratch for that.

          • CheckYoFacts

            Not LG. The G2 and G3 only came in 32GB in the U.S.

          • Lucky Armpit

            Not on Verizon they didn’t, which is one of the main reasons why I went with the Droid Maxx and not the Moto X. Having options is fine, but onboard storage and different price points because of it is ridiculous. Storage is cheap. Cheap, cheap.

        • cns2007

          Do you actually think that 16GB will be all that’s offered? They have 32 & 64GB versions now. Why would they not continue to offer those options as well?

          • Higher_Ground

            no, but it’s certainly an oppurtunity to upsell you to a more expensive package. I guess that’s what it takes to offer a truely inexpensive phone, though.

          • Lucky Armpit

            The key word in your sentence is “now”. They didn’t at launch. Sorry, I don’t have time to wait around for them to decide to release the same phone with more storage later. Consumers are fickle, and there are lots of options out there. If I don’t see exactly what I want/need at time of purchase, I’ll simply go elsewhere. Which is what I did with the Droid Maxx. Basically same phone, double the storage, massive battery, for just a few dollars more.

            Waiting to release something with more storage a few months down the road is a stupid decision. With the life cycle of electronics being as short as they are, especially smart phones, you can’t wait on your laurels. I hate to make the Apple comparison here, but when they release an iSheep device, every option (color, storage) is available right then and there. They don’t release a version with more storage 3 months later. Companies have much to learn from the Sheep in that respect. And that might be a good reason why Moto didn’t sell a whole lot of Moto X devices, coupled with the AT&T “exclusivity” at launch for MotoMaker, which was another dumb decision.

            Hope they learned from their mistakes.

        • Mudokon83

          YES I’m in the same group. I need to feel like i can load up my 32gb of music on an micro SD without taking up all the space on my phone. Due to data restrictions.

      • billiebob808

        no barometer no sale. lol

        • Pootis Man

          Really?

          • billiebob808

            kidding, brah. did i really need to add an “/s?”

          • Pootis Man

            Dude I know. I was just thinking that thefeature could be cool to have.

    • Bruce

      no MicroSD + no replaceable battery = no sale

    • LiterofCola

      16gb, no SD slot, 3gb of RAM?
      Shame.

    • Pootis Man

      I would just like to ask in all seriousness what kind of content do you have in your device that would requires more than 32gb? Just curious. I mean do you have a lot of movies or music stored on the device?

  • rich

    While I do like moto products. These specs are just OK. I’ll pass.

    • David Caccavo

      if the original Moto X showed us anything, it’s that specs only matter to certain extent. I originally wanted nothing to do with the “mid tier” Moto X but i’ve been using it since December and it is hands down one of the best phones i’ve owned.

      that said, to each his own

      • jimt

        But 16 gig, come on, give me a break. 32 OK

        • David Caccavo

          oh, yeah total BS. but it will prob be an option type thing (16/32/64). i’m sure they also ASSUME everyone has their music, pics, etc in the cloud. even if that’s true, they forget that very few people have unlimited data anymore and can access music/files at a whim

  • michael hill

    Yes please!