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New iOS 8 Features That Android Actually Needs to Adopt

Apple is done with its WWDC keynote, where they introduced a bunch of new features for iOS 8, plus a new version of OS X called Yosemite. We poked fun at a handful of them already, but believe it or not, we are also capable of giving props when we see something cool or that we would like to see on Android at some point. I know, I know, you are probably wondering what I have been drinking over the last couple of hours, but hang with me for a second. You have to admit that Apple is really doing a great job at making all of the experiences seamless from iPhone to iPad to computer. They are also doing a pretty impressive job when it comes to making it easy to get in touch with or share things with the people you chat with the most.

So here we go – these are the iOS 8 features that were introduced today that we actually found to be pretty cool. Feel free to agree or disagree, of course.

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Interactive Notifications

With Interactive Notifications, Apple is giving you actionable items in a notification. These aren’t groundbreaking by any means, but something as simple as being able to quick-reply to someone in a message without leaving your current app, is pretty cool. We have something similar on Android (have had for a while), but these seem to take the idea one step further. With Android, when you tap a button in a notification, you are taken out of your current app and into the app attached to the notification. On iOS 8, a text notification lets you respond (with a keybaord) within the notification without leaving your current position.

Sure, there are 3rd party apps that do this on Android already, but building this functionality into the OS would be awesome, especially so developers from all sorts of apps could take advantage of it.

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Automatic Hotspot and Phone calls

Apple introduced a way for an iPhone to automatically become a hotspot for your computer and then also give you the ability to answer or make calls through your computer. I know what you are going to say, “We have Google Voice and Hangouts and hotspot apps already on Android!” But see, that’s the thing – this is all seamless integration that doesn’t require launching an app or signing up for Google Voice. With Apple’s new voice call and hotspot integration, everything is just ready to work.

With the Hotspot idea, your computer recognizes that your iPhone is near and then lets you connect to it via hotspot to use your phone’s data connection. It just appears in your list of WiFi options to connect to without ever turning anything on on your iPhone. On Android, you could tap on a widget or icon to load up your hotspot, then activate it, but automatic is automatic, and something I think we would all prefer.

With voice calls on iOS 8, you can answer or place calls on your computer as long as your iPhone is attached (likely tethered) to your computer. Now, you can do this with Google Voice/Hangouts integration on Android, but that’s another app or service you have to sign-up for. Apple is allowing you to do all of this without signing up for something separate. Google seems to be moving this direction with Hangouts (or has at least promised that it’s coming), but here we are still waiting for it to arrive while Apple is rolling it out.

ios quick familyios quick family2

Quick Access to Favorite People

In iOS 8, a double tap on the iPhone’s home button not only brings up a list of your recently used apps, but it now shows you recently talked to people, along with a swipe that will quickly bring in your favorites. You can see how awesome this would be for those of us who talk to a number of people throughout a day. On Android, you would either need to load up Hangouts or the People app to call or start a conversation with someone (after you locate them), but wouldn’t it be nice to always have those people a quick gesture or shortcut away? It seems like Google could add a favorite/recently-talked-to people section to their multi-tasking screen. Again, there are apps on Android that can make accessing your favorite people pretty easy, but this is built right into iOS 8 and always available from any screen.

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Messages, Group Messaging, etc.

Hangouts is a decent messaging app on Android, but iMessage or Messages on iOS is a much better, more well-rounded solution. Apple introduced all sorts of new group controls today, like a map that shows locations of participants in a group message, a list of attachments gathered together, easy DND, and even a way to add or remove contacts at any time. They added voice notes and video notes (that play natively), along with even more access through Messages on other Apple devices.

I mentioned this above, but a lot of this stuff could be coming to Hangouts, it just seems like Google is taking their sweet timing bringing it to us.

ios family share

Family Sharing

Apple introduced family sharing of a number of items today, but most importantly, is content purchased through iTunes. Your family now all (up to six devices) have access to items purchased with the same credit card on their iOS devices. So if you are all using a same credit card and if someone used that card to buy a new album or movie, you can grab it too, at any time without having to pay for it again. With Android devices, you would have to add the same Gmail account to multiple devices in order to experience something similar. I actually have a setup like this with my wife, and I can tell you right now that it is a pain in the ass.

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App Bundles

The final feature we saw from the lengthy WWDC keynote that we would love to see on Android, was the announcement that the Appstore will enable developers to sell app bundles. An app bundle is exactly what you think it is – a group of apps that can be purchased for a single price. That could be a game developer bundling all of their games together for a discounted rate for a period of time. Or maybe Google could grab a bunch of their favorite apps from top developers and bundle them together for a promotional deal on Google Play to celebrate a holiday. You get the point. Apple is there, Google is not, yet.


Anything else you saw from WWDC today that you were a fan of? Anything you would like to take a jab at? Share it below.

  • abhilashthakur

    Android already has most of the iOS 8 features

  • Матт Реякіпѕ

    It’s nice to finally see an Android person admit that iOS has some nice features Android doesn’t. Usually Android users laugh at the features iOS has that Android doesn’t. Remember Siri was a gimmick until Android made a clone then Android users acted like it was the best thing ever. Hell most Android users aren’t even aware that Android wouldn’t even have a touch screen if it wasn’t for the iPhone (Google flat out admitted to it). Nor would it’s apps work similar to iOS without the iPhone. Android was being developed to be like BlackBerry. And most of the new features Android has that iOS doesn’t, Android wasn’t first to have. Android’s look they claim iOS 7 copied was copied from Windows Phone 8. Themes and Widgets were taken from the iOS jailbreak community. So technically iOS had widgets and themes before Android, Android just made them default first. But iOS isn’t exactly first with everything either. There were tablets before iPad. There were touch screens before the iPhone (Pocket PC). mobile apps were around before iOS. Apple just made tablets and smartphone phones popular to the mainstream, and Google made Android for those who couldn’t afford an iPhone/iPad and on carriers that didn’t have the iPhone yet.

    • Larizard

      ^ delusional

  • drathos

    WiFi calling baked into the OS. Sure, there’s Android phones that do WiFi calling on T-Mobile, but they are customized for T-Mobile to do it. I would love to be able to get a Nexus or Moto X or whatever unlocked phone and be able to do it.

  • JY

    love or hate apple, with ios8 coming on the iPhone 6 with the bigger screen, apple has made it a damn good reason to join or continue in their ecosystem with the things they lacked before compared to android. Kitkat was just as fast as ios7 maybe not as beautiful but had more features, like 3rd party keyboards, better sharing, google now, but ios8 will change that whose going to take the fight with apple? android 4.5/5.0 needs to bring something special then htc, sony, lg, and Samsung needs build on that, only Samsung has that power with their brand and other things they make including home appliances but its locked down by google and touchwiz and galaxy range needs a complete refresh, I hope tizen becomes something big in the future! I want to see a fight!

  • Guest

    As a user of both Android & ios the fact that “there are apps on Android that can make…” makes android so lovable. having something not built in is practically meaningless with Android. But having the choice is great and its not impossible to use both.

  • Lykoz

    Search it didnt make up anything.

    Regulation means non function for some.

    Fact of the matter is I can teather with my android and cant with my sisters iphone

  • HYNK

    Some good points. Apple is good as seamlessly integrating things so
    users don’t have to do any figuring out how to make things work. I’m
    sure some Android devs will figure out how to add interactive
    notifications within a few days, so that’ll be cool.

  • Sony Fanboy

    All you Samsung owners need to get off of this discussion, unless you have rooted. Samsung UI is a disgrace to Android, and if you like it, then you are not a true Androidian and should hold your tongue.

  • roiji

    I should be able to opt out of those features right?
    I don’t want my Mac to automatically use my iPhone’s (capped) data connection.

  • itpromike

    @kellex:disqus I just wanted to point out a correction for the post about one of the features. The whole thing with being able to answer calls from your computer, there are a few bits of information that need to be updated/corrected about this feature:

    1.) This features doesn’t just work on your computer but your iPad as well. If a call comes in, you can answer on your computer OR on your iPad as long as your phone is ‘reasonably’ near by.
    2.) To make use of this feature your phone doesn’t have to be tethered in ANY way. This feature makes use of Bluetooth LE and iBeacons (introduced in iOS 7 last year) to automatically (behind the scenes) determine the proximity of your phone relative to your computer. So for example if I’m in my house and leave my phone in my office or on my nightstand while I’m sitting in the living room on my computer or iPad, then phone calls would ring on my computer or iPad.

    Just wanted to make these clarifications because it adds to the usefulness and utility of the feature and also bolsters the point about wanting to have this available on Android.

  • Synacks

    Your move Google (Hangouts). Keep me on Android because the grass is looking well taken care of on iOS now.

    • Larizard

      So, Google I/O has come and gone. What u say?

  • yeahh…just what my lady needs to see….a quick pop up of other girls i speak to frequently at a click of a button….smh where is the privacy anymore everything is all inyour face now

  • Brandon James Starcevic

    ugh, yuk.

  • Jason

    Which app will let you text directly from notification drop down? I’ve been looking for this for a while now.

    • CoreRooted

      None of them will allow you to accomplish this functionality the way that iOS is going to. Most third party SMS apps will allow you to open a quick reply window from the notification.

      • Android Developer

        What’s the difference? because IOS has an animation from the notification to the text area?

        the current app will pause on both OSs, and you will see the keyboard an a place to put the text in it.

        On IOS, as the video shows, the notification will take extra space while you play a game, even if you don’t want to use it currently.
        This looks annoying. look (at time 50:24) :
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w87fOAG8fjk#t=3024

        It’s not taking just the space of the status bar, but a bit more, which might be annoying on some apps (especially considering you have buttons there).

        • CoreRooted

          I get what you are saying. What Android is lacking is the actual text box in the notification. That’s what I was getting at. I’m absolutely not saying that I agree with the design aesthetic as you are correct, both OSs will pause anyhow while you mess with the notification.

          • Android Developer

            It makes sense to pause the app, since you are currently typing something, and having the game (or anything else) continue will ruin what you’ve done so far there…

            The status bar on Android is quite tiny (and I think IOS’s too), and so I’m not sure how much text you could put there while also allowing the user to click and reply to someone.

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    • Sony Fanboy

      That’s an Apple Support number

      • Android Developer

        So now you know his address and email address, and that he works at Apple-Support from now…
        🙂

  • TimTheK

    I’m not at all interested in some of those “features” you mentioned.

    Interactive notifications: I’d like to be able to quick reply to a text or message. I guess that would be useful. I’m sure there’s a 3rd party app on Android that can do it, but I try to avoid 3rd party text apps.

    Hotspot and phone calls: Why would I want my phone’s hotspot to come on automatically? I don’t. If I need to tether to my phone I want to actively turn it on. I don’t need my battery draining itself when I don’t need to tether. As for phone calls from my PC….why on Earth would I want to talk to someone on my PC when my phone is sitting next to me? That I just don’t get.

    Messaging: I really don’t need any features that GroupMe or Hangouts doesn’t already offer….and in an open system that is platform agnostic.

    Family sharing: Well, Kit Kat offers multiple logins now which makes sharing a tablet in the house much better. I do wish they would allow some sort of “Family linking”. It’s so annoying that my wife and I share a large music collection but separate Google Play accounts…because if I buy a song from Google my wife can’t upload it to her Google Music account. I have to strip the meta tags out first. Or, more often I buy music from Amazon to avoid the hassle.

    App bundles? Ehh. I rarely download any apps let alone buy multiple apps, so bundles mean nothing to me.

  • mustbepbs

    “but a lot of this stuff could be coming to Hangouts, it just seems like Google is taking their sweet timing bringing it to us.”

    It took them most of Android’s life to bring emptying your trash from the Gmail app. I have zero hope for any cool features coming from Google for Hangouts. They’re like a jittery kid hyped up on candy and soda. They have a very short attention span and are constantly running around touching everything and messing things up along the way. I’m getting really sick of it, but I absolutely hate iOS. If only Windows Phone didn’t suck.

  • Acaa Aca

    Interactive Notifications – BB have it on BB10. you can reply directly in the notification on top of any app/games running. hope android gets this.

    • David Benson

      My LG G2 UI has this also. I love it.

      • Acaa Aca

        i haven’t used any lg phones lately. nice to know they have it.

      • Ed G

        Yeah. It is VERY nice for when calls come in. LG should get more credit for doing these things.

  • Benjamin Clay

    I agree with the article. We can do quite a bit of this, but we have to jump through a few hoops to do it. Can’t wait until we have some of this stuff that just works without several apps to make it work.

  • Simplej

    The only thing I’d care at all about from that list are family sharing.

  • Smeckle

    This is kind of a clichéd expression to use….but every time I see a picture of Tim Cook I think about how much I want to punch him in the face.

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  • Lumia Nexus

    agree with all the points here but the fact of the matter is Android can naver match IOS’s optimisation and way of handling things. Android relies on hardware to perform simple task. the main trouble is the OEM’s in Android, why do they have to offer their own crap by force to people. it is not OEM’s fault either because they have learnt it from Google by forcing users to use Gmail, Music, Movies, Reading, etc from Google.

    Hangout app is crap from beginning and can never match IOS’ messaging. Yes it has group video calls but it is not for everyone. Normal consumers don’t even use video calls so forget group video calls.

  • Julio

    “this is all seamless integration that doesn’t require launching an app or signing up for Google Voice.”
    Right. You just have to buy an overpriced computer to go with it (disclaimer, I own one).

  • jay

    goog copies enough. Give it a rest.

  • Lykoz

    iPhone FINALLY GOT HOSPOT…. Android has been tethering for years

    • TroubleBaker

      1. iDevices have had internet tethering for years
      2. This is AUTOMATIC tethering, the computer sends a request to your phone to tether its internet and you don’t even have to touch the iPhone to start browsing.

      You should get the facts right before saying things like this, becuase it gets awkward at times

      • Lykoz

        iPhones need Internet tethering unlocked by service provider, and includes additional fees. The functionality is NOT just available.
        Android does not! You can tether independently and devoid of internet provider. Its free.

  • Gideon Waxfarb

    All of this. And how about the ‘do not disturb’ mode from iOS6? STILL not built into stock Android. This should’ve been in v1.0. Oh, and I’ll also take notifications on the lock screen. kthx 😛

    • NBM

      Siri sure is INFINITELY more useful: (linking video for the first 20 seconds)
      http://youtu.be/mdfLdzZNVJU?t=7s
      most of this video is irrelevant since it was just something I recorded to show my uses of a very old sound dock I had using NFC and a 30pin-BT adapter

  • Allan

    I’m pretty sure that the quick reply for messages has been in place since CM9…but Google somehow neglected to implement it I think. Looks like Apple is taking a page out of CM’s book this time around.

    Or I just haven’t been paying enough attention, maybe it’s in Kitkat already?

    Good valid points.

  • patrick

    This may be a dumb question but i was reading an article on yahoo that was covering the Apple news from today’s conference. One statement that caught my eye was and i quote:

    ” — The iMessage chat service will now let you communicate with devices that aren’t running iOS, such as those running the rival Android system from Google. ”

    What exactly does this mean? iMessage for Android? Or am i totally understanding it wrong?

    Heres the link to the article and the quote can be found under ‘WORKING TOGETHER’

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/live-highlights-iphone-mac-features-unveiled-175727986–finance.html

    • DC_Guy

      What they are referencing here is that you will now be able to get regular SMS text messages (from non-Apple device users) on your Mac and or iPad. Previously you could only receive iMessages on your Mac/iPad, so if you were “texting” with an Android user those messages only went to your phone. Whereas if you are an iPhone user who also uses a Mac/iPad “texting” another iPhone/iDevice user then those messages go to all of your devices. This is something that was very frustrating because you couldn’t continue all conversations across devices UNLESS you were communicating with a person using another Apple device and now you can. If I’m using my iPad and my iPhone is in another room, I will soon be able to get an Android user’s regular SMS text message on my iPad and not have to wait until I pickup my iPhone again.

      • patrick

        oh gotcha. Thanks for the clarification. Would have been nice to Imessage for android since a lot of my friends still use Iphones. Wishful thinking i guess. Apple would never do it

  • R2deetard

    too bad that if android did adopt some of these features, Apple would sue the pants off of anyone trying to integrate them into their own OS.

  • All quite nice features and I would love to have them on my android. One rebuttal – “quick access to favorite people” is already there in stock Android. “Direct dial” and “Direct text” widgets.

  • BRNSMRF

    Fingerprint passwords

  • StrattHacks

    While the notifications are cool, the calling from a computer is hardly new. I was doing that with a RAZR using I believe Motorola phone tools ages ago. In addition, you can dial out/message from your phone over Bluetooth in windows. Maybe not as elegant, but same thing. It is more driver Dependant, and I believe only broadcoms WIDCOMM drivers support it.

    Windows should add something like this, that is platform independent, since apple surely won’t allow non idevices to use this, and its been possible with Bluetooth for a while.

    A bit of info here:
    http://update.broadcom.com/vistahelp/phone.htm
    http://youtu.be/q2_Q_m7hGxs

    Either way, its a solid update for them. The keyboard changes are huge, and the siri updates are good as well. But I can’t wait to see what google does. We haven’t had a major upgrade in a while.

  • bibbyboi

    What ever happened to the interactive notifications? I had them before in hangouts but haven’t seen them in a while?

  • Shashwat Black

    I would rather have the ability to customize my phone the way I like, instead of it being permanently there as a part of the OS. Maybe I like interactive notifications, maybe I don’t.

  • deeshanizzle

    The automatic hot spot and phone calls on your computer is a bit hard for Android to do. Apple produces both the OS for their Macs and iPhone, while Android only does mobile devices. It would take a lot of integration support from Microsoft to make that available to Android devices.

    • NBM

      I would just put an NFC tag on my laptop, swiping turns hotspot on, laptop connects, another swipe turns it off… and that’s on an NFC/BT-less laptop. Gives more [streamlined/effortless] control for time AND place. I’m sure most people aren’t going to want to have their phone being used as a hotspot that much… or ever.

      edit: for the calls part I’ve had Google Voice for a while now.

  • Android already has 3rd party apps for most of this stuff. I’m almost sure of it!

  • Junior Youngman

    Apparently someone doesn’t know much about Android. Quick reply directly from the notification has been around for quite sometime in Android. The G2 and s5 both have it built into stock messaging for quick reply. And guess what? You still get to stay where you currently are!! Awesomeness. Samsung has offered for sometime that shows your phone screen on your laptop. You can control your entire phone from it. Not third party. And as for hangouts you can’t compare that because it’s a Google app. And every messaging app differs from manufactures.

    • wkwk

      Ok, a couple manufacturers offer some of these features. And? He’s saying these are good features that should be built into core Android, not features that are impossible on Android.

      • Junior Youngman

        They can’t be built into core android because andros is a completly free OS for manufactures to do as they please with. So with that being said apple handles one manufacturer. Themselves therfore it’s easier to keep everything to a core. I don’t get why people constantly compare them in the first place. Apple Vs. Android is like comparing apples and oranges.

  • tylerc23

    That Purple Mountain background suuuuure looks like that Nexus 5 Kit Kat background

  • enloquecido

    I still prefer most of these features on Android. Apple is forcing everyone to do it the same way, I like the choice. As for the app sharing, I suppose it’s awesome if you didn’t have any sharing but I prefer to choose what account I use to download an app rather than have it automatically shared. I like having the second shared account on my phone, plus I can share it with other extended family who wouldn’t have the same credit card but want to share a music library. Choice is always better and Apple is choice averse.

  • Richard Torres

    Its good to see competition and being able to see what is coming in the future. We need to put the apple vs android thing to the side and see the good that comes out of it for both sides.

  • j

    I love love apple, and android for my torrents on a phone – as for my daily computer it is OSX – FTW! You fan boys cn go wipe your ass with chrome os – for fags!!!!!!!!

    • Tomás De Bona

      hater

  • ts

    Family sharing is cool. Android definitely needs that.

  • Justin Strickland

    Why would I want quick contacts on my home button? I just put the hangouts widget on my main home screen. if I want to get to someone I frequently contact it already sorts it by recently messaged, so I tap their name… Done. Sounds like another feature we already had. Apple is just making it sound like a bigger deal than it is.

    • Ryan C

      What do you mean?! It is a big deal to people with iPhones! They’ve never seen something so revolutionary before! *sarcasm”

  • TheRobotCow

    I’m really stoked about the Osx and iOS integration and the interactive notification.

  • NexusMan

    Not impressed by any of this.

  • Kazahani

    I honestly would rather have android stay leaner on features and system resource usage. I can get all these “features” 3rd party if I want them, but if I don’t, then keep that crap off my phone please k thanks.

    • NexusMan

      Exactly.

  • Mike Broder

    does anyone think that the carriers will allow a free hotspot to be used? hahahahahahahahahahaha

  • John Davids

    Meh, I will wait until Google I/O is over before I start clamoring for iOS features. You never know what they have up their sleeve.

  • cooldoods

    Interactive notifications – No, the Android way is better. The iOS8 way is more seamless but it’s a compromise.

    Data connection – It’s one less step but it’s a step I prefer making for the simple reason that I can check my phone’s battery level first before using it as a hotspot.

    Most frequent contacts – No, I don’t need nor want iOS to keep track of who I contact most frequently. On my Samsung phone, I can just create a shortcut of a contact on my homescreen and tapping it will let me pick an app to use.

    Sharing – This is an iTunes feature, not an iOS feature.

    App bundles – ever hear of Humble Bundle? iOS doesn’t have support for third party app marketplaces.

    • Taurussho14

      How about a way for it be to in integrated in the the system?

  • coolsilver

    Nah none of that really seems worth it. Notifications be a pain in arse “NO I DIDN”T WANT TO DO THAT!”. Pocket dialing mom 15 minutes too late getting to a “friends” house. Automatic Pocket warmer of Wifi and Data waster … yea. iPhone can keep the exclusivity

  • MUTINOUS

    I just setup a friend up on Google voice. The ability to start and send a call from Chrome to any land line like your work phone or your home or even your cell phone really sold him. I mean convinced him because it’s FREE.

  • Guest

    My G2 does interactive notifications. I can reply to texts without leaving an app.

    • CoreRooted

      That is not native (AOSP) Android. That’s the manufacturer’s skin adding an intent and using their messaging app. What Apple is doing is native to the OS.

      • NBM

        Exactly, I bought my iPhone because I launch rockets and project stars on my ceiling like… every other day. Powerful.

        Seriously though, he says his phone does it… so its fair to say it does. Especially if it’s from the OEM via AOSP.

        • CoreRooted

          I’m not saying that it doesn’t do it. That wasn’t my point. I have a G2 with both stock and AOSP ROMs. The stock ROM does it because the messaging app that LG uses has the intent and NotificationAPI hook-up. If you switch (on ANY ROM) to Hangouts for SMS (which is the standard SMS app for AOSP now), you lose the ability to take any rich action from the notification itself. Hence, it’s not native functionality in Android. Never has been. iOS is accomplishing this natively in the OS.

          • NBM

            Rival platforms will often incorporate a competitive version of an existent feature that is seen as useful. The idea and function is what it is, and has long since been implemented.

            A chronograph [/watch] is a chronograph whether it’s integrated or modular. Their construction and the way they work may be different, and different personal views of each will be subjective based on those individual’s values, but irregardless of whatever the topic of discussion might be while comparing two such [similar] complications, if one existed first, it simply existed first.

  • enigmaco

    My moto x has that feature. Using Chrome I get all my messages and phone calls

  • CHRIS42060

    Mainly I just want to see a lot of work on Hangouts. I like Hangouts for my everyday messaging, but there is definitely lots of room for improvement.

  • Jason13L

    I assume it is coming, but since you alluded to applications that can duplicate or approximate these features, can you point them out? Besides Hangouts/GV that is.

  • Jordan Montgomery

    Some of these features would be nice. As for answering a notification such as a text without leaving the current app isn’t that already possible? I mean I’m using evolvsSMS and can do that through the notification.

    • CoreRooted

      You can, but only with 3rd party app support. It is not native to the OS.

      • Jordan Montgomery

        I thought it was something like that. I have never really used the stock messaging app.

    • Taurussho14

      Not with the stock app..

  • javier rodriguez

    family sharing sounds amazing. I am logged into my wife’s tablet and phone and it is really annoying when she gets my youtube notifications or hangouts just because I forgot to unclick my name but still want her to be able to watch and read our google play content.

  • Inspector Butters

    My G2 has the interactive notification for text messages built in…

    • CoreRooted

      That is not native (AOSP) Android. That’s the manufacturer’s skin adding an intent and using their messaging app. What Apple is doing is native to the OS.

  • Tyler Lamb

    The auto hot spot and phone calls, while awesome, they work with OSX, not Windows etc. Not saying they are a bad feature, it would be awesome if Google got all that to work through hangouts / chrome to route all the traffic to your desktops.

  • hoosiercub88

    Remember when wireless tethering became a thing way back in the day.. ?

    Then carriers were all… nope, nope nope nope nope.

    Seems like a cool idea, but I would like to see how that’s handled with carriers.

  • DoctorJB

    Imagine if there were app bundles on android, a bunch of apps for as low as a dollar. What if you could pay what you want and some of the money could go to charity… What if you could also get the PC version of the apps at the same time!!!

    • SplashMTN

      I see what you did there.

    • Sir_Brizz

      AHHH I don’t know! What would happen in this topsy turvy hypothetical sci-fi world you have generated for us!

    • Ian Jackson

      That sounds so “humble” of you to think of. I’d totally buy that “bundle”.

    • mrjayviper

      can you update apps from the humble bundle using playstore? or you need to download the apk everytime there’s an update? thanks

      • DoctorJB

        They update through the HB app.

        • mrjayviper

          got it. thanks

          edit: so still depends if the dev updated their version in the humble bundle then? just saying they’re more likely to update the one in the playstore and may forget the humble bundle version

        • mrjayviper

          it’s more likely a dev will update his app on the playstore compared to say the humble bundle “appstore”

          • DoctorJB

            Might be true but I’ve never had a problem getting updates through HB.

  • Michael

    this is more like it Kellex. I can respect anyone that gives props to its adversary when it deserves one. you got my respect.

  • Tyler Jackson

    this is a rumor and its not that goo either http://goo.gl/YUP3jb

  • Steveo

    So why doesn’t Android think of these things? Is a Google enigneer watching this press conference or reading about it, and sitting there wondering why they didn’t think of this before now? I mean app bundling seems so trivial in the scheme of things…

  • duke69111

    I do like the idea of Family Sharing

    • Allen Yates

      Absolutely. We have a “family” gmail account setup to purchase media now…just so we don’t have to dig into our individual accounts to access media. Getting rid of this solution would be nice.

      • sirmeili

        That is what I do right now. It’s not a horrible solution, but it would be nice to skip it.

  • 213ninja

    i’m not sure how that automatic hot spot works, assuming it makes sure you’re logged into both devices and handshakes? the favorite people thing was definitely a blur widget as others cited, but could be better i guess. everything else seems like legit improvements.

  • Jedi_Skote

    Google ended XMPP for Voices in May so we could see something from them at I/O I hope. App bundles would be nice and easier sharing of apps wife would be nice. I also like the keyboard in the notification tray for quick reply but the rest I don’t see a need but that’s me.

  • DC_Guy

    Kellan – I’m really happy to see that you don’t have a problem giving credit where it’s due. Apple got A LOT right today. But you can also look at it from the perspective that they’ve taken (or will take) greater strides to keep people in their ecosystem. The device inter connectivity looks great from what they showed today. Yes they are late to the party with things like 3rd party keyboards and widgets but better large than never I guess. I’m glad they are opening up Touch ID to developers. I can’t wait to see what they do with it. I suspect we haven’t heard the last of the Touch ID oriented features this year. I still think Apple may include NFC and introduce their payment solution alongside the iPhone 6 in the fall.

    We’ll see what Google has for us at I/O in a couple weeks but Apple showed some cool stuff today.

  • SerenityNow

    I take back a couple of the wise-ass comments I made earlier about not giving the Apple guys some acknowledgement for the good features they introduced today that don’t yet exist (or exist as effectively) on the Android platform.

    Two more features I think were worth noting:

    1. The TouchID being incorporated into 3rd party apps to use as a login – could definitely streamline some things going forward
    2. The “Metal” developer tool to enhance mobile gaming graphics and speed looks fantastic. The demo of Plants vs. Zombies they showed on the iPad looked like something out of a PS4.

  • zaluskim

    Actually, iOS has another feature that is absolutely the BOMB – cloud backup/restore. Compared to iOS, the android experience has a LOOOONG way to go in this dept.

    I can restore 99% of all my iPad apps/settings inside an hour and half on fast work wi-fi.

    • hoosiercub88

      You can do the same on Android.. app data is Android’s big downfall. I hope we see something to remedy that at I/O.

    • ImmaDroid

      thats one thing i agree 100% on. thats the biggest thing I would want, is to be able to backup an restore all my apps and data

      • JoshGroff

        Especially when changing devices. I had to transfer over my boss’s data when she got the new 5C, and completely forgot how easy it was to do with iOS. (Then again, with root you can pull off something similar, but it’s not the same as having out of the box functionality.)

    • aQuickBit

      Windows Phone would like to have a word with you. I helped backup a friend’s HTC 8X because they dropped it and they had a replacement sent to them in the mail. Once they logged in with their Live ID in the setup wizard it was like magic. Every freaking personalized setting was back in place, every app was re-downloaded, all contacts were there and their pictures were effortlessly accessible through SkyDrive (which if they wanted to download they could, but decided not to because now they had more storage space). The whole process took maybe 10 minutes tops. I honestly was in awe.

      • zaluskim

        Very nice! C’mon Android. Step it up.

  • mcdonsco

    I began watching the keynote but felt nauseous pretty quick and had to stop.

    The rediculousness of all the fan boys there clapping at just about every sentence for features of which, most, have been on android and/or working between android and windows for years.

    Then to see simple stuff over looked YET AGAIN that windows has done for years in the new os x…for instance, for LITERALLY YEARS, in windows if you want to send say 10 pics to someone via email, but they are all 5mb+ and you want them just reasonably viewable, say 1280×1024 windows asks you about resizing them before hand then once you select the resolution it changes all of them in memory then attaches it to an email; takes a second or two at most. TO THIS DAY on os x you have to change each pictures resolution manually first…then attach them then send the email.

    Simple stuff like that; that’s why I cant use os x for any length of time; its riddled with poor usage functionality.

    • walkinglamp

      Um.. what? While you may be right that there are plenty of features available on Windows that are still not available on the Mac (such as the ability to snap applications side by side on the screen), your one example about sending photos is just wrong. You can import a ton of photos in Mail and then select to send them all scaled down as “Large,” “Medium,” or “Small.” And of course you can send them as actual size. This feature has also been around for years. The point of the new feature they described was to allow one the ability to send huge files (up to 100GB I think). Seems like you got worked up for nothing.

  • Kisuk3

    Apple is for old peple

  • dcdttu

    Dear Google, please hurry up with Hangouts. It has the potential to be the go-to Android (and other platform) messaging app, but your epic slowness in getting the goods in there, stable, is going to be its undoing.

    • hfoster52

      Google IO will be interesting.

    • JSo

      Hopefully we get something out of Google I/O

      • dcdttu

        Well, they fixed the battery drain issue with 2.1.233/234. Took months, but they did it.

  • Sammy Miner

    Remember those moto widgets everyone hated? Look people widgets!

    • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

      The Moto Blur WIdgets were terrible. Great widgets from that time period were pretty much all on HTC devices.

  • Guest

    remember the widgets that moto added and everyone hated bionic era?

  • JSo

    With the messaging and phone call thing, Palm/HP did something like that with their Pre and TouchPad devices. You could message and make phone calls from either one and they both synced. I always say, too bad they discontinued that OS.

    • jonzey231

      Agreed. I absolutely loved it.

  • Ray

    If someone calls my phone it rings my laptop and i can answer the call.

  • Good_Ole_Pinocchio
    • MH

      It’s an apples and oranges comparison. Mainly because Apple controls all updates directly. To make it a true comparison, look at how many of the newest nexus devices are currently running the latest OS. That’s what the apple number represents (the 3GS cannot run iOS 7 properly, and the 4 and 4s barely get by). The numbers would be closer to 95% of nexuses on KitKat. It’s cute how they twist the numbers to their favor.

      • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

        Nexus devices don’t matter in the Large scheme of things. Google needs to work on this. They’ve been promising to work with OEMs to fix this issue and they haven’t done anything. Updates still don’t come fast enough and they are never promised. The push back needs to be on Google, because this is embarrassing.

        • MH

          Agreed. I was just showing how their comparison was fundamentally flawed.

        • Kyle

          I think they’re working on it somewhat. Look at the number of apps being released that used to have to come in major OTA updates. Take all the Motorola apps for example. Pushing manufacturers to follow this model will help maintain the core Android experience. IMO

        • JSo

          Sadly its not up to Google. When you create an OS and put it out there for any manufacturer to take and put on their device, you are no longer in control of it. Google can’t keep every device up to date. Only the one’s they have direct control over (the Nexus line). This is up to Manufacturers and Carriers. Google is trying to improve this whole thing but it’s not going to happen over night.

        • Blake

          What do you propose they do then? There’s a balance here. They can’t force OEMs to do anything for one simple reason: Android is open source. The best they could hang over their heads is denial to Google apps but that’s really shooting themselves in the foot too. They can do what they can to encourage and help companies push updates and they’re doing that. This isn’t even getting into the nightmare that carriers present. Remember the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon?

          That said, it’s getting better. More and more core components of the OS are being offloaded to applications. Apple waits for OS updates to make improvements to siri but look how much change comes for Google Now through simple application updates.

          Maybe if people stopped buying low tier phones and focused on flagship models, which are more consistently updated, then it’d be less of a problem too. Moto X, HTC One, and Galaxy S series are generally kept up to date.

          • Ray

            How about providing manufacturers with updates plenty of time in advance before they are released in order to get them out in a timely manner?

          • Blake

            They do this already and have for nearly 2 years. It’s called Android PDK. The aim is to give OEMs access 2-3 months ahead of time. Any other suggestions?

          • Ray

            nope thats all i got. besides demanding that OEMs get updates to phones within 2-3 months or else they lose access to Google play services

          • Blake

            That could be an avenue for them in the future, I imagine that’s a bit like poking a sleeping bear though. Last thing they need is another fork like Amazon’s app store and such. It’d hurt them just as much, if not more. The only thing I can think of is them offering money/resources as incentive. “If you comply with our update strategy we’ll pay your legal fees and/or put advertising dollars behind you” – something to that effect. But that might not be viewed very kindly in regards to anti-trust suits depending on the implementation.

      • Adam Truelove

        It’s even cuter how Google never even mentions Apple in their conferences. In fact, they show off their software running on Apple products. Apple takes every opportunity to remind people they’re cool. Google just shows cool stuff.

        • hfoster52

          Yup. Google makes money no matter what apple, android,…..

      • SerenityNow

        It’s not a twisted comparison at all. There are a lot of benefits of Android – choice, features, different screen sizes by OEMs, etc, but it comes at a cost. Doing a comparison of iPhone software updates vs. the Nexus phones only is irrelevant because the Nexus share is tiny compared to the overall Android install base.

        If people are going to make the argument that Android’s huge market share is evidence of its superiority over Apple, then they need to acknowledge one of the costs of that market share – the share is being driven by dozens of OEMs, many of whom are launching crappy phones that nobody on this site would want any part of. Further, these OEMs control the software update process even for the most premium Android phones that actively market against the iPhone (e.g. the Samsung Galaxy and Note series). That pie chart above is a direct result of the Samsungs, LGs, HTCs and other OEMs of the world failing to issue timely Android software updates, even for their high end devices.

        An Android enthusiast can’t argue on the one hand that a Galaxy S5 is better than the iPhone and then mention in the same breath that the Galaxy shouldn’t be considered when analyzing the timeliness of software updates in the Android world. When you pay $600 for a phone you’re buying the entire experience, including some expectation of future software updates. And if the Samsung, LG and HTC lag in this part of the experience, it absolutely should be viewed as a knock on Android because the OEM dynamic is a key part of the Google/Android go-to-market model.

        • MH

          It is twisted. and you’ve gone completely the wrong way with it. Look at it with cold logic. the only device that gets it’s updates straight from google or it’s OEM (just like the iphone gets direct from apple) is the nexus line. Everything else is held up mostly by w/e carrier the device has. The market share is not what’s being discussed here, rather it’s why only 9% of android devices are running KitKat. Carriers are to blame here mostly, the other small part is the rapid changes in SOC.

          To make it a fair comparison, you need to eliminate the carrier. Boom, you’re back to a nexus device (and to a certain extent, a GPE).

          You’re lumping two arguments together that are totally unrelated. If you want to compare apples to apples (no pun), we’re talking direct/timely updates from the OEM, then you can truly only compare nexuses to iphones for the purposes of that graph. That’s how the numbers are being twisted. Or did you not understand what I was getting at?

          • SerenityNow

            I understand what you’re getting at, but you and I are looking at it from two different views. You’re telling me all the technical reasons why Apple will always have an advantage over the various Android OEMs when it comes to issuing timely software updates, and that the only “apples to apples” experience where between the 2 is the Nexus line. The Nexus line’s KitKat distribution numbers are either at or near 100%, thus the pie chart should be disregarded.

            And where I’m coming at this is from the customer’s point of view. Do you honestly think the average customer wants to hear about OEMs, carriers and the like? The customer who is given the choice of spending $600 on two premium phones (iPhone vs. Galaxy) is only interested in his end user experience. He doesn’t care why the latest software update isn’t available on his $600 Galaxy phone, all he cares about is that he hasn’t yet received it even though it supposedly has all these awesome new features. In the meantime, his friend who bought the iPhone for the same price keeps getting software updates timely whenever a new iOS release is issued.

            When the goal is to sell your product, the ability to market timely software updates over the competition can be a distinguishing feature. And considering that Samsung is the #1 phone maker in the world and viewed as Apple’s chief competition, I’d say that the failure of Samsung to issue timely software updates is an indictment of the entire Android experience. Because whether you like it or not, Samsung is synonymous with Android at this point to the average customer. Nobody knows or cares what a Nexus is, but everyone knows what a Galaxy is.

            So if you want to argue that the distribution chart doesn’t matter because of how much the OEMs and carriers mess up the software update process for Android, just remember that that entire distribution model is Google’s choice. They know full well when they issue a new release of Android that it will take longer than necessary to make it to the masses, but they do nothing to shift this paradigm. They have created a completely inefficient mechanism for delivering their completed software to end user customers

          • Zee

            I completely agree with this. In fact, the only thing that is making me hesitate on my next Android phone is this exact issue. If Nexus is ending, and Silver isn’t a solid replacement line, my concern is going to be that new features on phones will either take months to get, or another $500 for a new device. I think this is an incredibly problematic issue for Android/Google. That is one of the best selling points, IMHO, for Apple. You know that your device will receive updates when everyone one else does.

          • SerenityNow

            Yep, I agree. And being that I’m a VZW customer with no Nexus option, I have struggled to find an Android phone that can stay “fresh” for me for more than 10-12 months. I’ve got the HTC One M8 now and one of the reasons I bought it was because of their recently stated emphasis on delivering more timely Android updates. And even if they don’t, their software overlay and performance is a lot smoother than the previous Galaxy phones I owned, so maybe that will keep me more engaged.

            I have an iPhone 5 for work and will be able to upgrade to the 6 in the Fall. As a result, I get the best of both worlds and don’t have to definitively choose one platform over the other.

            They both have their strengths and weaknesses, but I do think that iOS 8 took a nice step towards remediating some of its existing weaknesses.

          • MH

            “I understand what you’re getting at, but you and I are looking at it from two different views. You’re telling me all the technical reasons why Apple will always have an advantage over the various Android OEMs when it comes to issuing timely software updates, and that the only “apples to apples” experience where between the 2 is the Nexus line. The Nexus line’s KitKat distribution numbers are either at or near 100%, thus the pie chart should be disregarded.”

            Precisely my point, that chart is 100% BS.

            “And where I’m coming at this is from the customer’s point of view. Do you honestly think the average customer wants to hear about OEMs, carriers and the like? The customer who is given the choice of spending $600 on two premium phones (iPhone vs. Galaxy) is only interested in his end user experience. He doesn’t care why the latest software update isn’t available on his $600 Galaxy phone, all he cares about is that he hasn’t yet received it even though it supposedly has all these awesome new features. In the meantime, his friend who bought the iPhone for the same price keeps getting software updates timely whenever a new iOS release is issued.”

            Your point is valid, but iOS gets major updates once a year….same as the galaxy devices. The difference is that apple has control of the update procedure, and pushes it to any/all apple devices (vs selective/tiered updating from AT&T and Verizon). With that in mind, that’s why I state that the facts are twisted by apple to make them appear better.

            “When the goal is to sell your product, the ability to market timely software updates over the competition can be a distinguishing feature. And considering that Samsung is the #1 phone maker in the world and viewed as Apple’s chief competition, I’d say that the failure of Samsung to issue timely software updates is an indictment of the entire Android experience. Because whether you like it or not, Samsung is synonymous with Android at this point to the average customer. Nobody knows or cares what a Nexus is, but everyone knows what a Galaxy is.”

            Again, They get updates at around the same frequency. The carriers are who hold up the show, and selectively update which devices get what.

            “So if you want to argue that the distribution chart doesn’t matter because of how much the OEMs and carriers mess up the software update process for Android, just remember that that entire distribution model is Google’s choice. They know full well when they issue a new release of Android that it will take longer than necessary to make it to the masses, but they do nothing to shift this paradigm. They have created a completely inefficient mechanism for delivering their completed software to end user customers”

            I’m not saying that it doesn’t matter, just that the comparison that Cookiemonster is doing is not telling the whole truth. Period, complete. I agree that google needs to take the reins back from the likes of ATT and VZW.

          • SerenityNow

            The comparison is fair – it tells the story from the customer’s view point. Using one platform, the customer is guaranteed to get an annual software update right when it’s released. Using the other platform, it’s a crapshoot.

            You keep stating the reasons for why the Android updates are delayed and all I’m telling you is that the average customer doesn’t care. All he knows is that if he buys a high end Android phone, it’s less likely he will get a timely software update compared to his buddy who bought an iPhone. And so if software updates are important to customers, this would make them more likely to buy and iPhone than an Android phone.

            So if you’re competing against Android and trying to trumpet the advantages from a customer’s perspective of choosing iOS, how is it not fair or relevant to use that pie chart? Again, think from the perspective of the average customer, not from the perspective of a techie who overcomes the issue by only buying a Nexus device.

          • MH

            We’re not arguing that your point is valid, but consider the venue. World Wide DEVELOPER conference. These are NOT average consumers, these are people in the know. So, as I stated….not a fair comparo…even if the rest of the world can watch.

        • angermeans

          Very well said.

          • SerenityNow

            Thanks, much appreciated.

        • Sony Fanboy

          I’ll take an Android with Gingerbread over iOS8 any day. Who cares about updates? Most of the time with Crapple, they just mess stuff up anyway. With Android, there is always an easy option, regardless of OS version.

      • Michael Harrison

        umm, iOS 7 wasn’t released for 3GS, so it’s probably a sure thing it doesn’t run it properly!

    • Kyle

      I blame the carriers for this one and the fact that those charts aren’t correct at all. Show me one with only the Nexus line of products (maybe GPE as well), because that’s the only line of true Android phones that follow a similar structure as Apple has with the iPhone.

      • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

        Don’t blame the carriers, they don’t care. Blame Google. Google needs to come up with a better process for this. Why are “Carriers” not an issue on iOS? . . . it’s the same update process, the only difference is that on Android their are multiple OEMS. Why doesn’t apple have an issue with carriers holding up Updates? . . .

        The carriers aren’t the blame. The onus is on Google to come up with a better plan for getting updates out to Android Devices.

        • Bloo

          I think it’s fair to at least partially blame carriers; Apple pushes updates directly to iOS devices without carrier interference. But I agree, Google’s gotta put pressure on the carriers, same as Apple did.

        • MesaysI

          This has nothing to do with Google. The reason carriers and OEM’s take so long to update their phones is because of all the unnecessary customizations they throw on those phones. If they had no customization and used vanilla android builds, the only thing they’d have to do would be to update drivers and small tweaks like physical button code and some hardware drivers.

          • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

            So how do you explain the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon? It’s just Vanilla Android….why did it take forever to get updates? Compare the Galaxy Nexus to Any iPhone during that time on Verizon’s network. iPhones get updates directly from Apple unrestricted by the carriers, why isn’t this the same with Android even for a Nexus device?

            The disconnect for me is that carriers hold back android updates to do all this damn “Testing” why isnt the process as painful for Apple?

          • Blake

            You’re only proving your point here. GSM Galaxy Nexus was updated without issue, Verizon version not so much. The difference is leverage and demand. Apple can easily say “We’re going to do it this way, if you say no, then no iPhone for you”. There’s only 1 iPhone a year and there’s dozens of Android phones. Google simply doesn’t have the leverage to demand things like that.

          • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

            This is the problem. Google has the muscle, they’re just not using it. The problem with google is that they never intended to be “in control” of Android. It was just another plan for the ad services, which is fair. But their name is now attached to Android They ARE android and they need to take more pride in the platform.

          • Blake

            There’s a difference though. Apple is both the software and hardware provider of the product, an exclusive product too. Google updates the Nexus device just as timely as Apple updates their products. But when Google is not the sole provider they can’t arbitrary force things on people – again Android is open source. They ultimately have little leverage in the matter. What can they hold over Samsung or Verizon’s head to FORCE them to do it the way they want? Apple can deny the phone to the carrier. Google can’t prevent Samsung or Verizon from selling an Android phone.

          • Sir_Brizz

            Really, Google updates Nexus devices more timely, since there is no “beta period”.

        • MH

          The carriers are to blame, but so is google. Now that Android has clout, they need to cut the carriers out of the update process as apple has. Then that 9% would be closer to 90%. Dont forget, those iOS #’s are inflated by the 4 and 4S which barely survive running iOS 7

          • pappy53

            Wrong. My wife has a 4s on iOS 7, and it hasn’t slowed down a bit. I just sold my 4s with 7, and it was as fast as it was when new. So don’t make blanket statements without research.

          • MH

            You must be lucky, as the 12 we have deployed here at my office were so bad that we had to upgrade. We now have 5S’ and they scoot along nicely. Glad you dont make blanket statements w/o knowing things. Yup.

          • pappy53

            There have been very few complaints from 4s users, so it must be something that your office was doing wrong.

    • hfoster52

      One hardware manufacture vs many.

      • Fatty Bunter

        Not our problem.

      • Scott Simon

        why does that argument not work when Android people talk market penetration?

    • breethon

      I have to admit my 4S has 7. But man, the stupid thing is so slow it is almost unusable. It is only 5 months old and is slower than crap…Christmas present from work.

      • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

        You don’t see iOS devices lag a lot……………but when they do, it’s bloody painful to use. I’ve experienced that. At that point they are pretty much forcing you to update.

        • cfusionpm

          Girlfriend has a 4S and it became unbelievably slow with iOS7. So much so, she’s switching to a MotoX (or something similar) after her contract expires in a few months.

      • cozybop

        That is why I haven’t updated my iPhone 5 to iOS 7. I haven’t updated due to sentimental reasons actually but I did some comparisons with another iPhone 5 with iOS 7 and there was a difference in performance, very slightly but my iPhone 5 with iOS 6 ran faster than the one with 7.

    • Droid 1967

      This is not a true representation. Each android version put out is the same. Each ios system is changed to each device. So while they may be running IOS7 Not all IOS7 running devices have the same software benfits in them. they are tailored made to each device and features that are in IOS8 for the new iphone wont be available in the IOS8 for previous devices. So yeah they update But its not the same OS just the same name. Not that im arguing about the piss poor updates that android receives from manufacturers or cell phone companies But the overall number is misleading!

      • Michael Harrison

        Many would consider that a huge bonus that they get all the features of the new OS that their phone can handle as opposed to being completely dropped 12-16 months after release.

        • Droid 1967

          That is not what i said and i just read that Iphone 4 wont be getting ios8 . This doesn’t say anything about features its talking OS and Im telling you its comparing apples to oranges as each ios version is not the same to each device.

          • SerenityNow

            The iPhone 4 came out 4 years ago – probably makes sense at this point that it wouldn’t get another software update.

            And I don’t think you understood what Michael Harrison was trying to say. He was acknowledging that different Apple devices only get a portion of the newer software updates as a happy medium. Apple continues to provide support for them for multiple years, while at the same time not implementing certain features that could kill the performance of the phone.

            Note that this really becomes more of an issue once an iPhone model hits the 2 year mark. The iPhone 5 last year received everything that came with the iOS 7 update. So assuming the iPhone 5 only gets certain features in iOS 8, that will mean the phone got full support/upgrades for 24 months followed by additional updates for at least another 12 months.

            I’m pretty sure that if most high end Android phones got similar treatment, there wouldn’t be so much complaining in the Android world about software updates and long term OEM support.

    • Ian Jackson

      Obvious low blow. How about adding up all the android 4.x together instead of just Kit Kat. Because they’re including 7.x..

      • SerenityNow

        Not the same comparison. Android 4x was released nearly 3 years ago, while iOS 7 was released 1 year ago. Pretty sure that Android’s 4.X offerings over the last 2-3 years have been of the same magnitude and frequency as Apple’s 5, 6 and 7 series offerings.

    • Sony Fanboy

      I’ll take an Android with Gingerbread over iOS8 any day. Who cares about updates? Most of the time with Crapple, they just mess stuff up anyway. With Android, there is always an easy option, regardless of OS version.

  • Garrett Sechelski

    I agree totally with the Messaging. Hangouts is still relatively new as a complete messaging app, so I expect Google to add most of this functionality in. In fact, I was surprised it wasn’t already there. When I purchased my G Pad 8.3, I figured I would be able to reply to SMS messages via Hangouts on my tablet… Couldn’t. Although LG has built in that functionality on the tablet, it’s through their own app instead of Hangouts. I really hope Google focuses on making Hangouts everything it can be.

  • wtd2009

    is there a way to get out of a group message conversation? i really liked that feature they introduced today, but haven’t found a way to do it on my android phone. maybe it’s a razr thing…

  • Daeshaun Griffiths

    If google abandoned android, I would too. I only use android because the google. Just nit picking at the title.

  • Champloo

    A feature you guys missed that I actually really like is that when you get a voice message and have listened to it via the notification center, you can respond by holding the phone up to your ear and it’ll automatically start recording. After you move the phone away from your ear, the message will automatically be sent. I really think this is one heck of nice feature.

  • Ray

    All good things i wouldnt complain about. I hate having to add my Gmail to my gf phone so she can have all my paid apps then remove my account it really is a pain

  • Adam Truelove

    This is surreal. Reading about iOS features that haven’t been in Android for years. It’s just not normal.

  • d-rock

    “With the Hotspot idea, your computer recognizes that your iPhone is near and then lets you connect to it via hotspot to use your phone’s data connection. It just appears in your list of WiFi options to connect to without ever turning anything on on your iPhone. On Android, you could tap on a widget or icon to load up your hotspot, then activate it, but automatic is automatic, and something I think we would all prefer.”

    I can see this going very badly for people with limited data (majority of users). I don’t want a visible hotspot option coming from my phone. I want 100% control of when it’s accessible and when it’s not.

    • This isn’t a forced connection, just an optional one you can enable on demand, and if it’s anything like other AirDrop features it will likely be one you can turn off so it doesn’t happen anyway.

    • JSo

      This is why I like NFC tags. If you have a laptop, put one on there and assign it to turn on hotspot. Whenever you need it, just tap it.

      • Blake

        That’s not much better than without NFC truthfully. The difference in rubbing the back of my device on a sticker versus tapping a widget is trivial. With Apple’s solution you don’t have to think about it – you don’t have to take the phone out of your pocket/purse/jacket, you don’t have to tap/touch/rub anything.

    • ImmaDroid

      The problem with this is that Apple can do this easily because its between two Apple products. Sure my Android and Android tablet can make connections with each other. But I have a windows laptop, so Google can’t make this seamlessly happen like Apple can, because they have no control over them and are limited. And you know its sure as hell won’t happen between Android phone and a Mac

      • d-rock

        AHHH…okay so good point here…it’s an airplay thing essentially. The article said ‘computer’, not ‘Mac’, so it was a little misleading.

        • ImmaDroid

          Yup exactly. So even Kellen saying it as a thing that Google should implement into Android really doesn’t help if it won’t seamlessly work on a windows comp, or a Mac. And not many people are using Chromebooks as comps yet

    • Blake

      I have to imagine somewhere in iOS you can turn it off if you’d rather do it manually. Problem solved.

    • mrjayviper

      you forget the part where he wrote “just appears on the list of WiFi options to connect without ever turning anything on on your phone”

  • JT

    I think its time for Google to take messaging more seriously. Imessage is light years ahead of Hangouts right now

    • wtd2009

      yeah, they are piecing it together step by step, but a major and complete overhaul would be nice. they are putting all their energy into hangouts, which is fine, but wow it is so inconsistent on my phone that i have tried and come back to it several times only to be disappointed by it’s limitations and unreliable performance.

      • Ryan

        True but not handled like iMessage and its server issues. I want Google to handle it all and not the OEMs.

      • JT

        Exactly. I think Hangouts needs a major overhaul. Imessage is just more consistent and it’s better designed right now. Im sure Google can definitely change this, i just hope they do it sooner rather than later

    • TheDrizzle

      This is true, but it also reveals the beauty of Android. Notice Kellen kept saying there are 3rd party apps for nearly every new feature added. If you want to do it on Android, there’s a way.

      • George264

        I honestly prefer built-in more than 3rd party. There’s always pieces that don’t fit perfectly to the OS with 3rd party. Say you want a nicer lock screen than the one installed, and want a minimal one like stock Android. Installing a 3rd party lock screen doesn’t always work, sometimes skips to the home screen, doesn’t show up, doesn’t turn on the screen, etc. A 3rd party messaging client like Go Messenger has the quick reply feature, but damn it is laggy, buggy, and annoying as hell. It pauses your entire screen, plops the bubble slowly, and after you reply it goes away with delay.
        The worst part, is that none of them look like they fit in. Like a pencil in a case of markers. If Google can build all this in, we’d have a perfect OS.

      • Scott Simon

        Theres always a way to do it on iOS as well, up to and including jailbreaking. Which speaking of…..the equivalent processes between jailbreaking and rooting are also 10 times easier on iOS.

    • MUTINOUS

      The day I can install iMessage on my Moto X is the day the world can acknowledged iMessage as a decent messaging app. Really, how good can it be if I can’t install it or someone with iMeassage can not MESSAGE me with it. Sure, it can send plain text messages but is that really cutting edge tech?

      Apple only plays in a world without variables because they can’t handle the unexpected.

      • cozybop

        I hope that happens. That would mean Facebook wasted $19 billion for nothing.

  • Derek Duncan

    Most of these things seem very trivial from a technical standpoint for Google. It’s just a matter of whether or not they want to do it.

    • Ray

      Yep i think they would be easy to do

    • Rui Nelson Carneiro

      Googlers are too busy grooming their dog at work to bother with these simple things.

  • anon

    My G2 and G Flex have the interactive notifications. My G Pro 2 / G3 also lets me split the screen with my app so i can read the whole message if i need to.

    • callumshell1

      I think most people immediately install a new launcher when they get their phone so they never even realise stock has some great features.

    • morpho4444

      Yes but we are talking about Android in general.. LG is not the whole Android population, being a feature for LG doesnt make it for Android. And actually Interactive notifications are not APPLE creation, BlackBerry was the first on this.

  • Frettfreak

    Here is the thing. And I completely agree with you on most your points, but, Apple would sue as soon as one of these made it to Android, but apparently it’s cool for them to borrow whatever they like.

    • Blake

      That’s assuming they have patents for it though. Which they might not.

      • Maxim∑

        Google and Apple settled, we don’t know what happened behind the scenes

        • Motorola and Apple settled, big difference. Everyone jumped on saying it was Google, it wasn’t.

          • Maxim∑

            Initially it was Apple and Moto, Google also settled about a month after

          • michael arazan

            But Rockstar Consortium is still trying to go Nuclear all over Google with Apple ordering to charge

          • angermeans

            Where is the source for apple ordering the charge for rock star? Rock star has its own CEO and agenda. Google was given the opportunity like everyone else to join rockstar and they were on board but during the 23rdhour they tried to buy all the patents out from everyone. That was very shady and they did this to themselves. Apple is not ordering anything they are just playing ball as they would be the ones being sued if they didn’t buy in. Rockstar is a joke. It’s nothing more than patent trolls trying to make money without ever making products. Apple (like everyone else) was put In a hard spot. Buy In or risk losing everything. Google had that same opportunity but tried to buy them all themselves. There is the real problem, but no one talks about that do they cause for some reason google (and Samsung) are never the problems they are just picked on by apple. Do some research. Google isn’t the always above board company that we all think they are. They have used people just like apple has. Apple deserves to protect their inteleectial property just like everyone else. Samsung deserved to get sued. Why isn’t that the problem?

        • Rui Nelson Carneiro

          It’s just Samsung that likes to be “too cool for school”.

          Every decent company makes agreements. For example: Microsoft and Apple.

  • Paul Neumann

    Fair and Biased.

  • Droid Ronin

    At least Hangouts doesn’t hijack your SMS messages and send them into a black hole if you decide to switch platforms.

    • jvader2012

      true

    • EdubE24

      Hangouts is just a bad messaging app. I went back to the Samsung messaging app. Way to cluttered. Why do I need to do extra steps to add people in a conversation? I’m back and forth between IOS and Android, iMessage IMO is just tops in this department.

    • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

      Is that really an arguable point? It’s a bug yes, but this doesn’t matter if you’re sticking with iOS.

      • EdubE24

        It gets very annoying for those of us who get bored easily. But its strange cause I always know the three people it will affect when I switch. Its not all IOS users I contact daily, and one is an Android user.

        • George264

          I know the struggle, it’s difficult popping my SIM back and forth sometimes. A lot of the time, iMessage bug corrects itself after a couple of hours, but then there are times it doesn’t and it drives me nuts the next day when I see someone and they are very mad I didn’t respond to texts for an entire night. The fix they promised, they better roll it out fast.

      • Rui Nelson Carneiro

        What’s the problem with them droiders?

        They never used iMessage…

        They’ll continue to send and receive SMS from iPhone users just as usual.

        Plus, it’s only a problem for those who are dumb enough to don’t disable iMessage on the UI.

    • No, it probably sends it to a hole in Google where they all get read. You then get adverts based on what you said 😉

      • Rui Nelson Carneiro

        Touché!

    • timrcm

      Eh, I’m a technology enthusiast and switch platforms every time the wind changes, and I’ve never been effected by this bug. Literally all it takes is disabling iMessage on the iPhone before wiping it and switching your SIM card to the Android phone. One setting change. That’s it.

      The problem is people who walk in to a carrier store and switch out their phone and expect the sales rep to know or care to check for it. Yes, it’s still a bug, and a bad one at that, but it’s being fixed and easily avoidable.

      • sirmeili

        I’ve actually heard plenty of stories of people who have done it the “right” way to still have their messages hijacked for months. Even Apple has acknowledged this bug publicly. Hell, I’ve heard where people have called Apple support to be told either it is fixed or there is nothing they can do. In the case of it being fixed, it apparently doesn’t always fix it.

        I think this issue is more complex than you’re making it. Sure, it has never affected you, but that does not mean that it doesn’t affect others. Anecdotal evidence is anecdotal.

      • “technology enthusiast”

        And that’s why other people are having problems. They’re not technology enthusiasts.

    • CHRIS42060

      If you are going to quite using iOS then you need to cut all of the other people who use iOS out of your life. Just kidding. Honestly I am sure that would be really annoying; however, I have sent several hangout messages to people instead of SMS messages. I am sure Apple will fix it now that there is a class action suit out there.

  • Nick

    But why should Android adopt these features if Apple will just sue them in return?
    Only Apple can get away with that.

    • Carlos Lopez

      Im sure with everything they copied this puts android in a good position to copy back

      • Ray

        Copy back good one

        • Carlos Lopez

          Huh?

          • Nathan Borup

            iOS features are patented because iOS is closed source, however many of Android’s features are open source and are not patented or copyrighted

          • Carlos Lopez

            Thanks for the clarification, i didnt understand what he meant. But that is true so hopefully they find a workaround i would like some of these features

          • sirmeili

            I don’t think that’s the case. Open source merely means you can use the source for your own purposes, but it still includes licenses to it’s use. Blatently stealing a patented feature, even in an open source project, is still something you can sue for (Oracle suing Google over the Java code in Android for one).

            Note however, that even though Google has a lot of these features patented, they believe that one shouldn’t sue in these cases. They often patent to prevent others from patenting something and suing over it. Basically, they only really ever pull out their patents when they need them to either defend their stance or when they need to show their clout: I.E. You say we infringed on this patent, yet we see that you’ve infringed on these 20 patents of ours. How about we just agree to go our own ways (not that this always works).

          • angermeans

            I agree with everything but your last paragraph. Google is not the company that everyone thinks they are. They very much patent for the same reasons apple does and if stolen won’t hesitate to sue. You can bet your bottom dollar on that.

          • sirmeili

            I have to say is that their actions speak worlds in this case. You rarely see Google initiate a suite based on a patent. they even have patents for the notification pull down which apple might infringe on. I seriously doubt that there are no infringements on Google Patents, which makes you wonder why you never year about them suing over them.

          • AOSP can’t be copyrighted. Google’s Android bits can.

          • angermeans

            What? Do you know what open sourced means? Some (very little actually) of android is open source, but everything Google (which is the majority of the OS) is def not even close to open source. Google has many patents that they won’t hesitate to sue if stolen. In fact, they’ve done just that many times.

          • Nathan Borup

            I understand what open source means… and I also know that google’s extra features are not open sourced, that is why the play store and other applications require some sort of licensing from google. Still, apple has taken some features from AOSP Android, which is completely open source, therefore apple can take them

    • Fatty Bunter

      because we want them?

    • angermeans

      Are you serious? You obviously haven’t done any research have you. Why doesn’t apple have the right to use someone like Samsung when they blatenly copied patented features. Samsungs own papers even showed they set aside money knowing they would be sued. To them it is a business cost much like others set aside for research and development. Samsung just waits while others innovate and then rips it off. With the GS1 they blatantly set out not only directly copy apple, but they set out to confuse consumers (obviously not people like you and I who know technology) that they are buying an iPhone. Samsung would not be where they are today if they hadn’t copied apple. Not only that but have been found guilty twice already. Yet as you say apple is somehow the bad guy?

      Phone and tablet OEMs are constantly using great ideas. Most of her features you all love on android were on iOS first either through first party or third party apps. The whole pull down to refresh that works in close to every app came from an iOS only dev. Much of the multi touch came from iOS ideas that google borrowed. Android has borrowed from iOS for years and vice versa. I don’t know why this is so hard to understand. Most of the features of iOS 7 and now 8 came from webOS not android and android also got many from webOS so that doesn’t mean they copied android.

  • jvader2012

    acutally you can do that just dont log out of Googlr that works as exactly as you say . MOtorola has this you dont have to anything just add the software and it works been like this since Photon4 g. SO its already their, just mess with your pphone just a bit more no need for APPLE TO THROW A FANCY SLIDE SHOW to tell you this feature that has been on android for a while..

  • sagisarius

    I think the iOS feature Android needs most is a notification manager. In fact, I would say thats about the only thing they really need out of iOS. Every news app trying to give me breaking news notifications is getting old.

  • aNYthing6

    Hangouts definitely needs some of those features. iMessage has quickly turned into the gold standard of messaging.

    • Jon

      I hope that Apple has fixed the issue with Texting between Android users and iOS users. Its a mess. Responding to group text from iOS users often means that my response only goes to one of the recipients and not all, or I will miss whole parts of the conversation somehow. All of this began occurring after Apple released iMessages app. They somehow managed to break texting. And it seems that only recently anyone has even given a damn that they’ve screwed with a basic standard.

      Every time they release new features for iMessages, I wonder if it’s going to further screw with communications with non iOS devices.

      • Meltdown07

        Personally I havent noticed this issue in awhile with my iphone friends, but I definitely remember it was a huge PITA last year.

    • Meltdown07

      Agreed. I wonder if hangouts had all the functionality of iMessages if, over time, it could become the defacto standard, especially since it is supported by multiple platforms whereas iMessages is not. Getting my iphone friends/family to install hangouts is always a chore (especially with the less technologically inclined).

  • This is not the Kellen post android users need right now, but the one we deserve.

    • jvader2012

      DESERVE SOMEONE WHO MESSES WITH PHONE just a TAD MORE MOTOROLA AND GOOGLE HAS THIS ALREADY.

      • Frettfreak

        You obviously have no clue

      • T4rd

        Please restrain yourself. =p

        • jvader2012

          ill try

    • Kevin

      We don’t deserve this.

    • GNewt

      TDK – An all time favorite.

  • droseum20

    And THIS is why I read DL. Biased yet unbiased 🙂

    • jvader2012

      I GUESS IT SOUNDS OFFICIAL IF APPLED DOES IT Android already does it guess we know what he likes

    • Maxim∑

      yep the problem is the people who read DL…

      • I guess is has something to do with our “inferior devices”, we should seek a “better life” lol

        • ImmaDroid

          lol, come over to the dark side Luke.. where the grass is always greener!

          • michael arazan

            the grass may be greener but it stinks of manure

          • ImmaDroid

            Lol.. Yea That’s because it stays inside the “Ecosystem”. When Tim cook steps in poop, everybody knows about it!

      • trumpet444

        The fanboy hate is just as bad or worse on apple sites. The WWDC doesn’t help because it always riles this crap up with Cook and company constantly talking $hit when they should just show off their work.

        • Maxim∑

          Tim cook made a joke and it was pretty funny…. Im not disagreeingwith you. Its just as bad everywhere apple forums tend to be worse sometimes

        • George264

          Oh, don’t be so sensitive. It was one little joke to lighten the tension during the event and make it seem more engaging. Making the crowd chuckle once in a while is what makes Apple keynotes fun to watch, they seem down to earth. Samsung, HTC, and Microsoft all make jabs at competitors. Honestly, they did show off their work and it looks very good. Can’t wait to see what Google has in store for I/O.

      • Somedude

        iOS is the superior system.

        Apple is the best

        • Rui Nelson Carneiro

          iOS MASTER RACE

          Everything that was good from iOS, now with everything that was good from Android too. Plus some more new-fangled sh*t…

          • Somedude

            Continuity is awesome.

            Apple is the best. Go apple! Go apple!

          • Edward Smith

            Obvious troll is obvious.