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FYI: Galaxy S5 is Running the New Snapdragon 801

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Yesterday, during Samsung’s unveiling of the Galaxy S5, representatives were very careful in answering questions concerning the device’s processor. All they would say when asked for specifics was, “2.5GHz quad-core” with no mention of a manufacturer. Benchmarks showed a Snapdragon 800 on-board, but something seemed off with that, especially knowing that Sony announced the Xperia Z2 with a Snapdragon 801 earlier in the day. Why would Samsung not use the newest Qualcomm chipset available in their 2014 flagship?

As it turns out, they are using the latest and greatest. The Galaxy S5 does indeed also run the new Snapdragon 801, according to a statement released this morning by Qualcomm. 

There will also be an Exynos octa-core variant of the phone as well, but the chances of that arriving in the U.S. are basically slim to none.

The Qualcomm 801 isn’t a giant step forward over the 800, but it does help with support for larger, faster camera sensors and also improve image post-processing. It offers connectivity with LTE Advanced and has boosted performance across the board.

Here are the benefits of the Snapdragon 801 according to Qualcomm:

  • Superior mobile graphics and multimedia: The Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 processor helps enable higher quality imaging with support for larger, faster camera sensors and improved image post-processing, immersive mobile graphics and gaming with enhanced Adreno 330 GPU performance, as well as higher speed SD card memory.
  • Fast and seamless connectivity virtually anytime, anywhere:  The Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 processor offers fully integrated connectivity with 4G LTE Advanced carrier aggregation for download speeds of up to 150Mbps, as well as dedicated hardware for dual-SIM/dual active (DSDA) service in China.
  • Leading overall system performance and power efficiency: The Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 processor features Qualcomm Technologies’ custom quad core Krait™ 400 CPU at up to 2.5GHz per core, its custom Adreno™ 330 GPU for premium mobile graphics, and its custom Hexagon™ QDSP6 for ultra-low power applications. In the Snapdragon 801 processor, Qualcomm Technologies has boosted the performance of these key processing engines, and continues to achieve superior processing performance through the unique and efficient integration of all of its custom-designed processing engines, including Qualcomm Technologies’ heterogeneous computing architecture.
Via:  Qualcomm

 

  • HarvesterX

    Just curious here, but my Snapdragon 800 can also connect to LTE-Advanced, son what am I missing regarding that benefit that’s listed? Lol

  • duke69111

    Anyone ever used one of the Octacore versions? Just curious if there is much of a difference over what Qualcomm provides.

  • Diablo81588

    Although great on a spec sheet, there is no point to having this much power in a phone. Samsung might need it for BloatWiz to run smooth, but AOSP runs butter smooth on current gen dual core CPUs, let alone quad core.

  • Ryan

    I have seen specs on the snapdragon800, 801, 805 and 1000. I would prefer the 805 because it has better graphics capabilities. That being said any one of these processors will work because no app can fully utilize all 4 cores of the 800. If GTA 5 was launched for android then I would be shopping for a spec heavy device. But even then im sure the 800 could handle it.

  • jonzey231

    Why wouldn’t they use the 805?

    • Jordan

      The 805 doesn’t have cellular radios. I don’t think it’s intended for phones.

      • rals

        It is intended for phones. They haven’t used it yet because it isn’t in production yet….or not enough time to make the phone with that SoC

        • jonzey231

          Ooohhh I gotcha. Learned something new today.

        • jonzey231

          Hopefully Google will hold out for the N6 (?) or whatever the next gen Nexus phone is then and include the 805. It’d be nice to have a Nexus that is not only superior in software, but also in hardware.

    • Franklin Ramsey

      Because Qualcomm won’t be shipping the 805 till the second quarter of this year.

      • Tim242

        Actually, they said 2H (2nd half)

        • Franklin Ramsey

          Ah well that would push it even further back.

  • BigMixxx

    Sony made a serious contender. Now the question is, will it reach all US carriers (Verizon Specifically — it carries the LTE band they need)

    • Tim242

      It does not carry the CDMA it would need.

    • HarvesterX

      I don’t get that, as the phone I’m using is a Snapdragon 800 and can connect to LTE Advanced…I’m lost

  • Bald_Sasquach

    Is…..is that a bird face icon pack? I think I see camera (green), videos(blue) and gallery(yellow). WTF?

  • usuf

    I am not pretty sure , this is just in cantonese and these guys actually yested the phone with one of the the tests and tests confirms that its 800

    • Usuf

      Tested*

  • matt pitzo

    I’m sorry but I expected more from Samsung, I just got rid of the GS4 for the nexus 5 and if I’m not mistaken didnt samsung rush to release the GS5 because in their eyes the GS4 was a flop and wasnt well received but yet I see this being less well received then the GS4…i mean besides the LTE-A in the snapdragon 801 this really isnt going to be a big difference to the normal snapdragon 800 in my nexus 5

    • Jordan

      You’re mistaken. They didn’t rush, & it was well received by consumers. They update their flagships yearly. This isn’t supposed to be an upgrade from the Nexus 5, it’s suppose to be an upgrade from the S4 which is running the 600 processor.

      • Zack Hollon

        The GS5 is supposed to be the best phone on the market hands down! If it isn’t then ol Sammy didn’t do its job. The GS5 will retail for over $600 while the Nexus 5 is under $300. There is absolutely nothing on the GS5 to make someone pay double for the phone! 2014 will be the year LG and Sony start closing the gap!!

        • Jordan

          I hope you’re right about the gap getting closed. But as it’s been shown year after year, Samsung doesn’t need the best device on the market for it to sell like crazy. They have a really high marketing budget.

          • Zack Hollon

            I’ll give Samny credit the GS2&3 were great phones that nothing else on the market could compete with. Fast forward 3 years and everyone else now has real competition! Samsung will always be 2nd in the race but with thus lackluster phone the field is given a opportunity to catch up. So wish Google would promote more but Sammy is using there OS so its like free marketing for them

        • Ron H

          How do you know it will retail for over $600? Prices haven’t been annouced yet, and it’s been reported that the price will be lower than the S4.

          • Zack Hollon

            It was also reported for a 2 tier GS5 one of which would of been a cheaper version. That didn’t happen! This is Smasungs flagship it will be a $600 phone unlocked like the Nexus is!

          • Tim242

            See below…

          • Zack Hollon

            See below…

          • Tim242

            Dude, you said, “would of.” It isn’t even close to right.

          • Zack Hollon

            OMG!!! AM I UNDER ARREST!

          • Tim242

            Yes, and I do have handcuffs.

          • Zack Hollon

            Well you come on down to Texas and we will show you how we treat the grammar police. FYI no one gives a damn about grammar anymore. Trust me you will never change this!

          • Tim242

            People care about grammar, if they want to be taken.seriously. I am only 2 hours from Texarkana, 4.5 hours to Dallas. I can be there pretty quick.

          • Zack Hollon

            Taken.seriously? I’m confused!

          • Tim242

            That explains it all.

          • Zack Hollon

            It explains you have no argument your punctuation skills are as good as my grammar.

          • Tim242

            My punctuation was correct.

          • Zack Hollon

            Someone can’t even admit they were wrong. Taken.seriously. isn’t correct. Sorry. I didn’t write the book

          • Tim242

            Are you drunk? Do you need to put on your glasses?

            People care about grammar, if they want to be taken seriously.

            There is nothing wrong with that sentence. SMH

          • Zack Hollon

            Are you drunk?

            Taken.seriously. you see nothing wrong with that?

            Since your so dumb and can’t figure it out yourself. Here is how it should be.

            Taken seriously. No period and a space between the words!

            Jeez you must be from Arkansas!

          • Tim242

            You finally pointed it out. It’s about time. Point proven. That is obviously not a punctuation mistake. It is a typo. Are you too dumb to know the difference? Using “would of” is a 1st grade grammar mistake. You must be from Texas.

          • Zack Hollon

            Taken.seriously.

            That’s saying you want to seriously take me! What you say is a typo is actually worse grammar then my error.

            Go be a grammar Nazi somewhere else. You just sit around on forums correcting people? This isn’t High School there is no grades!

            This is a article on phones that are slowly dumbing down America as it is. I’m a horrible speller and never use punctuation but because my phone is so smart it makes me seem a genius at times. Please take your trolling arse somewhere else and let my southern dillect not need to be corrected because someone SHOULD OF kicked your arrogant ass a long time ago!

          • Tim242

            It’s too bad that phones can’t correct bad grammar. People like you wouldn’t get so butthurt and shamed.

          • Zack Hollon

            I write as I talk!! Should of, could of, would of, if you don’t like it come do something about it!

          • Tim242

            So you pause between one word that you have made into two words? A space denotes a pause. You are Texas special.

          • Zack Hollon

            Damn right! And proud of it! HOOK EM’

          • Tim242

            I would insert a “woo pig sooie here”, if I cared even a little for pointless sports. Don’t act like Texas has played worth a sh!t in recent years, either.

          • Zack Hollon

            Someone who doesn’t care about sports would not know how Texas has been playing in said sports! You won’t say WPS because you know that’s a argument you will never win.

            Nice try troll!

            GIG EM’

          • Tim242

            I don’t care about sports. But, I do have friends that do. Luckily, my boyfriend doesn’t.

          • John

            *This isn’t High School, there “are” no grades!

            The word “grades” is plural, so you need to use “are.” You would use “is” if you were saying “grade” which is singular.

          • John

            This one is a common mistake, but I’ll help you out so that you don’t look quite as uneducated in the future.

            *Since “you’re” so dumb and can’t figure it out yourself.

            “Your” is a possessive pronoun. It is used when you want to say something belongs to someone else. For example, “That is YOUR hat.”

            “You’re” is a contracted form of “you are” which is what you meant to use. For example, “you’re an idiot.”

            Hope that helps.

            Cheers!

          • Zack Hollon

            See below…

    • Tim242

      Rush? They released the S4 last April…S5 comes this April.

  • Herinel Pichardo

    We’re in what I like to call a software curve in mobile. Next year will be a hardware curve. Meaning this year there will be more emphasis on software and not that many huge leaps in SOC’s like last year.

  • http://infotainmentempire.blogspot.com Rob

    Aren’t most of the 800 chips clocked at 2.26 ghz? If so, I thought it had a good chance of having an 801 considering it was clocked at 2.5. Still not mind blowing to me though, can’t wait for 805 and beyond.

  • http://www.baldypal.com/ BaldyPal

    How much storage is left out of the box on this thing? last time it took up over a third, almost half.

    • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

      8GB

      • The Narrator

        HahahahahhaHhhHhhHhHhHhHhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaHhahahahHhHaha

      • Kevin

        Now I know why Samsung users like SD cards. Lol

  • Liquidretro

    While not directly comparable an ARM to a X86 chip, my 4 year old i7 920 is at 2.66ghz stock, the new 801 is at 2.5ghz. Pretty impressive.

    • T4rd

      Still running my “old” 920 at 4 GHz on air. Haven’t felt the need to upgrade. At least it has 8 logical cores (with HT) though. ;-)

      • Nathan Borup

        If you did any sort of rendering you would be feeling the need to upgrade for sure…

        • T4rd

          Nope, just gaming and homework. But wouldn’t most rendering be more dependent on the GPU?

          • Nathan Borup

            Thats what you would think, but currently Autodesk products don’t support GPU rendering unless you pay through the nose for it

    • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

      “While not directly comparable an ARM to a X86 chip” . . . it pretty much ends right there.

      • Carlton Crasher

        The fact I cun run my nexus 5 @ 2.9GHz stable is amazing..though battery life is appalling haha

    • Diablo81588

      Not comparable in the least. That CPU is 130 watt TDP… Clock speed means nothing when comparing completely different architectures.

  • Synguest

    I must admit I’m confused. But, I wasn’t surprised when I saw the unit had 2gb of ram. Reason for confusion… Didn’t samsung say the next phone (which should be the s5) would be 64 bit?

    • Mark2134

      Good question….

    • The Narrator

      That’ll probably be the international version. I’ll wait til Qualcomm makes it.

    • Alex Boro

      This isnt their “next phone” its the galaxy s4 bandaid edition with new touchwiz

      • Zack Hollon

        Judging by the multi million $ unveil I’m pretty sure Samsung considers this there next phone!

        • michael arazan

          Considering their TW takes a minimum of 800MB of ram with all other apps off, and when using about 6-10 other apps uses 1.2 or more ram I would of thought 3 gb of ram would of came with it as well.

      • jamaall

        It’s the S4s… They might as well say it, they already copy apple

  • Radgatt

    I wonder why Samsung doesn’t put their own processor in all of their phones. Not just certain markets. They proved with the Note II its not an LTE issue. They are just putting more money into Qualcomm’s pockets.

    • 213ninja

      and the note 2 is a top performer in my book. mine is still beasting….

      • SA_NYC

        Same here

    • KingofPing

      Probably something to do with production capacity and keeping a “friendly” supplier on hand in case things go really bad at Samsung’s fabs for whatever reason.

      • http://people.ign.com/mrfrodo24 MrFrodo24

        Seconded. Samsung may not have that kind of production going yet for their Exynos line. Unless they start making leaps and bounds with it, no harm in sticking with the leading mobile processor manufacturer.

    • http://infotainmentempire.blogspot.com Rob

      Maybe they don’t have enough chips to meet worldwide demand? I have no clue.

    • WickedToby741

      Qualcomm probably just has more compatibility with networks worldwide. Qualcomm has a lot more time and money to invest in radio development. Even the Exynos chips likely use Qualcomm radios, so in some scenarios it just makes sense to pick a Qualcomm chip.

      And not all of that money is going to Qualcomm. If I’m not mistaken, some of Qualcomm’s chips have been produced in Samsung foundries since the Snapdragon S4 (probably the chips going in Galaxy devices). So it’s almost more like Samsung is licensing the design to produce Snapdragons for itself.

    • The Narrator

      Because Qualcomm is way better and developer friendly

  • htowngtr

    Meh

    Phone as GPE would be nice but otherwise no thanks.

    • lensgrabber

      as long as it has the drivers that can take advantage of the camera features and can be purchased in black, I’m in.

  • Mark2134

    Why hide that?

  • Beavis

    “Running the new Snapdragon 801″

    ….. and TouchWiz to drag it down to normal speeds.

    • 213ninja

      maybe the new version is faster…..? i’ll wait for a review before i assume it underperforms.

      • Asimoalex

        It sure looked snappy in all the videos

        • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

          It sure looked as snappy as tochwiz can be….which is not at all.

    • Dean Milo

      Here goes the TouchWiz whining.

    • LiterofCola

      Isn’t the Z2 also running the same chip?

      • rals

        I want that phone now. Wishful thinking if it comes to Verizon….

        • LiterofCola

          Right there with ya

        • Eric R.

          Sony+Verizon=Never getting software updates

      • thecokedragon

        From what I’ve heard, the Z2 is actually the MSM8974AB — a Snapdragon 800 chip. But everyone’s been reporting it’s an 801 when that’s simply not true.

        • thecokedragon

          Nah, it’s still 801, though up until yesterday it was considered an 800.

      • thecokedragon

        The Z2 actually has a slightly different one. The S5 has the MSM8974AC, while the Z2 has the MSM8974AB. The difference between the two is max clock (which is 2.36GHz for the AB, and 2.46GHz for the AC — no idea how the S5 is being listed for 2.5 unless they’re rounding up) and GPU clock (550MHz for AB, 578MHz for AC). So the S5 has the bare upper hand here (in both speed and new-ness).

    • crazed_z06

      Do you guys ever stop with this? Even in the hardware/software video the DL didnt not any lag or anything… This is such a tired meme. You guys think a 2.5ghz quad core processor cant handle some UI tweaks..?

      • Lucky Armpit

        No, we don’t. TouchWiz is terrible, bloated, slow, and requires high-end power to run without lag. Unfortunately, Samsung will sell tons of these and users who are not cognizant of what Android really is (in other words, not DL readers), they think TouchWiz “is” Android. And that, my friends, is a crying shame.

      • Diablo81588

        Give it a few weeks of normal use. It will lag just like all other Galaxy devices do.

        • Carlton Crasher

          I agree even when my buddy bought the new note 3 he was telling me how it was lag free… But I was like ewwww ui fps laggg lolllll…s3 was the same until cm11…not to worry I like my nexus 5.

          • roberthenderson

            Note 3-Root, freeze TouchWiz home, lag gone.

        • Gideon Waxfarb

          Except my Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 is about 3 months old, and doesn’t lag.

          You fail :P

      • Nikuliai

        the biggest problem is when you destroy the advantages of getting a new proc… besides you destroy all your mid and low end devices with that UI and bloat… it’s pretty stupid if you ask me, but again, people is too

        • crazed_z06

          Does it? I saw a review recently where the reviewed current smartphones to see which ones had the best REAL WORLD performance games. Not just benchmarks which we all know can be tweaked by Samsung uncorking the CPU.

          Anyway, the GS4 and Note 3 had some of the best performance. People constantly crying about touchwiz ruining everything seems to be a meme that people repeat because they heard it in comments sections. I havent seen any technical explaination of how and where Touchwiz is impacting performance to the extreme extent that people here claim.

          Here is the writerup:
          http://www.engadget.com/2014/02/20/which-android-phones-win-at-gaming/

          So the idea that Touchwiz is destroying performance on Samsung phones does not seem to be the case.

          • Nikuliai

            I happen to receive a lot of complains about the S4, tested it, and without a doubt is the worst high end Android smartphone outhere, in games it may be good, but that’s not something where you use the UI (it’s running in the background ergo not destroying much the performance), the S4 is the only high end I’ve seen that lags, it may be a low lag, certainly less than the mid and low end devices, but that doesn’t make the UI good, I say that by experience, not because engadget, so I don’t really care about the “writerup” since I’ve seen the performance being not “high end worthy”, the best point on the phone is the camera and on that front I can’t say a thing, but the whole UI thing is making the phone a lot more crappier than it should be

            PS: I don’t really buy anything Samsung anymore (on smartphones, their cameras and tv’s are actually really good), that’s because I’m one of those guys that test the phone and reads a lot before buying it, and since the S2 I haven’t seen anything noteworthy about any Samsung Smartphone besides the Notes (which are Phablets and have MONSTER specs, but have some nice adds like the pen thing)

    • Justen DeBowles

      It’s really funny… because Most other Android sites are doing nothing but praising the S5 and the newer touchwiz/Magazine UI on the S5 (yes Magazine UI is on here too). But the hip thing to do it whine about touchwiz I see…

      carry on…

    • Danny Dodge

      Does the note 3 on an older processor lag? No.