• Its interesting they brought sms into hangouts app, but it still doesn’t solve the problem of being able to “text” people or read my texts via my computer. I want a solution that replaces MightyText…

  • Mike Strollo

    Am I able to send sms messages without racking up text message overages on my current mobile plan? In other words. .. Does this use data plan instead of text message plan?

    • Matt Young

      of both receipients are using hangouts it will use datawifi

  • Ping T.

    SMS works but MMS fails on Moto X

    • Matt Young

      works fine for me. Make sure ur wifi is off when sending mms

  • @ScoreboardSteve

    Does anyone know when the official update will hit Google Play? Most Google apps say they’re updated in Google Play but they won’t allow me to update any.

    Also, to anyone who updated Hangouts already, does Hangouts have “read receipt” like iMessage does and iPhone style emojis? The emojis in the current edition of Google Hangouts are such a cheap ripoff of iOS.

  • noparkang

    Seems to have issues with 4.3. MMS on NOTE 3 with 4.3 crashes. Works on GS4 with 4.2.2. without a hitch.

    • Pdewet

      Same here…ironic isn’t it. The one time I have the newer version of android its the one causing the issues. Its a good preview but i guess we will have to wait for the official update. The same goes for the Google Home launcher. Search crashes and the icon scaling in the app drawer is awful.

  • Brien Gerber

    Anyone have issues sending MMS group messages? I can receive them but not send them

  • Pavlovic33

    Can’t seems to get gifs working. Whenever I send one to a friend they receive a picture instead of the gif. I tried with various recipients and still no luck.

    • Taylor Levesque

      both parties have to have the update

  • mak

    Anybody have luck on figuring out how to get lightflow to know the difference between SMS messages and hangout chat messages? I’ve tried a bunch of things to no avail.

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  • Matthew Addison

    I’m not receiving notifications for sms recieved from hangouts. Anyone else experiencing this or have a fix?

    I’m using an S4 Active on 4.2.2

    • Mlibbey

      im getting half of my notifications, some randomly wont tell me i have a new msg…tell me if you find a fix!

  • Chris Ta

    This is going to sound really nooby, but I can’t seem to get notifications from hangouts when i receive an SMS.

    • Toto’s Dewclaw

      Same problem here, no notifications at all- no sound, nothing in notification bar, very disappointing. Sadly, Verizon’s messaging app works better when you want to sync texts (SMS/MMS) between a tablet (Nexus 7 2012)/phone (Droid Razr) and wanting it to be fairly seamless. i really thought Hangouts would be a solid solution.

      • Frettfreak

        I am having no issues. I get notification sounds and icon in status bar. Running an HTC one with a android 4.3 / sense 5.5 rom. Actually loving the hangouts update the most so far. Only issue i have is its really not unifed messaging, more like unified app’ing. but i can live with it for now. I like the UI on hangouts better than the stock SMS app so this works.

        • Htc Jay

          I have an HtC one with 4.3/sense 5.5 too and my notifications don’t work either. Do you think it could be because of the specific apk I downloaded?

  • Péter Friedrich

    How can i display sms and hangouts masseges on one screen? Like imassege.

    • Frettfreak

      not possible… it separates SMS and hangouts. LAME but maybe its a bridge step who knows.

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  • Sam

    When using SMS, does it uses SMS from your texe plan or does it sends via google number?

    • Sam

      I mean text plan or via google number using your data

      • Steve B

        It sends from your texting plan. There’s no Google Voice # integration at this time. They’ve targeted Q1 of next year to have this integrated….but we’ll see.

        • Sam


  • Steve Tu

    This + CyanogenMod’s SMS->Voice tricks = I am one happy camper!

  • kdiperi

    NOTE 3 here . same issue once MMS is sent app fatally crashes and needs to be removed 🙁 soooooooooo close !!!!

  • Eric Bright

    I installed on the Nexus 4 and it’s working as expected. But I have one question: Will Hangouts replace “Messaging” for good once I got updated to KitKat? Thank you.

  • Digbob

    LG G2. SMS and MMS are working, but video calls freeze the shop. Also have confirmation from another user on a note 2 that video hangouts lead to a lockup.

  • No_Smoking

    Original Razr MAXX works fine so far =) thanks!

  • primarchlion

    It took a long time for the first SMS to send, but now they seem to be going right away.

    (On my Verizon LG G2, so happy I could replace the keyboard =), don’t know why but the prediction on the LG one always seemed off compared to my CM Bionic, even though it’s behavior with punctuation and the fact that it had a number row was really nice).

  • Lucas Rains

    Main issue I’m having is it will create separate threads for the same contact for Hangouts and SMS. Wish I could just toggle between the two. Actually, I wish I didn’t have to (i.e. iMessage). It’s a good start, but the app still needs work.

    • Daeshaun Griffiths

      I almost understand you. iMessage goes strictly from iMessage to iMessage. Hangouts does strictly Hangouts to Hangouts. Sms goes from Sms to Sms. Sms doesn’t turn into an iMessage. iMessage doesn’t turn into a sms. I can send an iMessage from my iPhone to another iPhone and have that synced to my mac. If I turn iMessage off, or if theres no data in the area, i don’t get to see the message on my mac. Hangouts 2.0 separating Sms and hangouts is a good thing, we couldn’t directly rip off the color recognition and having a bunch of tags in a single thread can get messy. I think it’s less confusing than staring at the computer screen wondering why certain messages aren’t showing.

      What google should’ve done (i’m sure v2.x or 3.x will have this) is backup my SMS to hangouts. I would see my SMS on the computer and maybe add some Moto Connect action. (connect & trusted devices are reason enough to not get the nexus 5).

      • Lucas Rains

        Totally get what you’re saying. Being able to do both in the same thread was dreaming.

        But this is what I’m talking about when it separates the same contact into different threads:

        • Daeshaun Griffiths

          WOW. I haven’t seen that (yet). Did you join the contacts? Try erasing one entry then adding the email address to the other?

          • Lucas Rains

            I tried that too. When I go into the bottom one for Hangouts, I can toggle between that and SMS but it still creates the two threads here. I deleted both contacts and made a new one too. There isn’t even an option to separate anymore. This is the only contact that this happens to. Of course it’s my brother haha.

    • jimv1983

      If you didn’t toggle back and forth how would you decide which type of message(Hangout or SMS) you would be sending?

      • Lucas Rains

        I’m not sure, but somehow iMessage does it. I think on iOS 7 the text boxes change colors based on what you’re using.

        • jimv1983

          From what I understand iMessage always uses the iMessage service if it can and automatically goes to SMS if it can’t. They user has no control over that.

  • dax mcanear

    i have to hand it to roy amadeo. Well done sir!

  • Elden Lashley

    Works perfectly for me on the htc one sms works, mms works, even that location share thing works and group messages work with iphone users… love it! thank you droid-life

  • afazel

    Will it swap back and forth between sms and Hangout depending on data connection like iMessage does? That would be pretty swell.

    • Ian Case

      Nope. It lists SMS and Hangouts separately in a drop down menu on the contact name.

  • droidomega

    You can use Google Voice texting with this if you have cyanogenmod and voice+ 😀

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  • Hargleblargle

    So I just tested this, and it seems like installing Google Play Services 4.0 will allow mms to be sent from Hangouts 2.0. Also, it allows Hangouts to send and receive sms/mms without mms.apk being installed. My tests were done on a Droid RAZR HD running Eclipse 5.1 (Jelly Bean 4.3 custom ROM).

    • Brian Wolfman

      Where is the google play services 4.0?

      EDIT: I think I need 4.3 anyway for that…damnit. guess no MMS for me

  • juancarlos ramirez

    Is the same for me :'( nothing new, still no SMS. Help!

  • smooth

    running on my GS4 (android 4.3, stock, no root), but crashed when you send MMS

  • Steven Berger

    YES!!! Just in time too, since the new FB Messenger got rid of SMS support for some odd reason.

  • John Furster

    A few bugs/wrong things I see currently…hangs once I attempt to send a photo or too many messages at once and have to uninstall/reinstall to get it going again. Gifs work but only as a Hangout message to prevent it from hanging. Contact list is a nightmare! Lists every contact multiple times. Once via phone #, email, and Google+. Messages should thread together or give an option how to send it as a default. Suggested people needs to be removed from contact list or hidden somewhere. Swipe to delete instead of archive or have one for a left swipe and the other for the right.

    VZW Moto X

    • Lucas Rains

      I’ve had the same issue with contacts. It’s creating separate threads for SMS and Hangouts. Have you found a way to solve the problem? I tried deleting the contact and create a new one, but the same thing happened.

  • Montrale Hammonds

    I’m loving this. Not to sound greedy but can we get the apk for the keyboard those built in emoji are calling me.

  • Taylor Abrahamson

    Working perfectly on my verizon S4 running CM10.2 .

  • Brian Wolfman

    Would like the option to combine SMS and Hangouts, but I understand why not. If it starts sending messages to hangouts automatically…all these people are gonna be all confused what its going on. As new phones come out, they can probably start to combine it. Good start.

  • nosedive94

    Working on my Note 3. The only thing I’m wondering is when they’ll integrate this into the desktop version so that it’ll work like MightyText/mySMS combined with iMessage. That would make this so much more potent.

    • William Kister

      That is what I am waiting for.

    • netPIMP

      working for SMS on my VZW Note3, but hangs/quits on anything MMS

      • Ken

        VZW Note 2 on Android 4.1.2 and I can confirm that MMS (sending and receiving) is working on my end.

  • Knlegend1

    Okay does this mean google can read my dirty little msg?

  • PooCaster

    I installed the APK on my nexus 7 hoping I’d be able to send SMS from it but dont see the option in the new hangouts?

    • Colin Huber

      Because tablets don’t send SMS.

      • prestone1

        Google could and should sync between devices.

    • Carlton Crasher

      unless you have a google voice number and google voice (apk) installed it won’t send because it has no carrier to send through wifi.

      • but its suppoed to send SMS over data to other hangout users…

        • yellowflash94

          Ok ima repeat this others have said it but I think you guys can’t read.you don’t send sms over data. iMessage doesnt send sms through data. It sends an IM if the other user has iMessage and if they don’t it sends a SMS through the CELLULAR PROVIDER. Hangouts doesn’t work this way. SMS and IM are separated and not unified into one thread. Hence why you can’t send an SMS from your tablet.

          • TR

            The confusion about sending SMS via data has to do with Google Voice. You can send SMS messages to other people using only data on your end without any cell service (and it will be sent from Google’s servers and received by the other person via their cellular connection). Thus you can send SMS on a tablet, etc with only wifi. That is what I as well as others were expecting with hangouts. So for now, it’s the Google Voice app still.

      • jamontoast129

        It would be nice if they rolled in the functionality of something like Mightytext where you could send it from your tablet, but it uses your phone to send the actual SMS and it just shows up on both

  • Drummer62

    Sending MMS on GS4 on 4.3 causing app to crash.

    • rjayjayc

      Any fixes for it? or work arounds

      • S9Bad

        no. still keeps for closing.

    • fester113

      Try turning off the stock messaging app and then back on again.

  • Jpx

    I don’t think Im receiving text, but it is sending them out for me…

  • Dustin Carney

    This doesnt work on 4.3 galaxy s4.

  • MikeSaver

    No SMS is sending for me. Anyone else having this problem? I sent a group MMS though and it said it sent..

    Im on rooted gnex running shiny 4.3

    • Carlton Crasher

      worked for me on Galaxy S3 CarbonRom 4.3.1, with VZW # and GV #

    • AxemRed

      I’m having the opposite problem on my Moto X. SMS works fine but MMS doesn’t send.

  • Axl’s Cornrows

    No option yoni my mobile number on my Nexus 7 to be able to send SMS seamlessly from my tablet yet Verizon messaging app does it fine?

  • jbreezy

    so, i don’t see any way to save a photo/MMS that someone sends you.. that sucks. I have to go into the sms app to save it. wish i could save it from hangouts…

    • Nick Floria

      i just checked you click a photo top right has the menu button click it and you have the option to save.

      • jbreezy

        many thanks, the layout was a little screwed up and i couldn’t really see that upper right corner. needles to say i can still get to it. Thanks agian!

        • LionStone

          Yea that is odd, the layout is off…I can barely see the menu option, if you didn’t ask I wouldn’t have known either, thanks!

  • chocolate8175

    MMS working here, Verizon galaxy s3, rooted, clean ROM

  • Brian

    Working fine on my S3. I have one issue with Hangouts that’s existed since it first came out. My friends and I have an ongoing Hangout that we all join and leave whenever we want, so in the app, it’s ALWAYS there. Every time I join again, it creates a new entry so most my Hangouts feed is “You were in a video call” or “Ongoing video call”. Any way around this?

    Edit: Location sending doesn’t seem to work. S3, VZW, Rootbox

  • Luke Berry

    no pop-ups D:

  • DC_Guy

    ::Sigh:: I was hoping for true unified messaging, but nope. Oh well…

    • JRomeo

      what additional functionality would you have this app include?

      • DodgingDonkey

        I expected the conversations to be linked. For example I have someone who uses hangouts and SMS, there is one thread for that. In this case I have two threads. One that reads “sms” and the other for hangouts. You can easily switch in between them by clicking the users name in the SMS. Not quite what I was expected though.

        • Daeshaun Griffiths

          we couldn’t rip off the color recognition in ios. That would’ve been too much.

        • what if they are seperate conversations though? Google accounts aren’t really linked by phone number are they?

        • Sasquillian

          The little tab to switch between them only seems to be working one way. From hangouts I can switch to that friend’s SMS, but when I’m in the SMS thread, there’s no option to switch back to hangouts. Kinda bummed.

        • jimv1983

          If it did just merge into one thread how would you decide if a message was going to be sent over SMS or Hangout? I’d like to keep the option to choose.

          • Mike Schreiner

            The best way for them to do this would be to look at how Windows Phone does their SMS integration with Facebook Messenger giving users the option to switch back and forth between FB and SMS. It’s pretty user friendly.

    • Derek Duncan

      I agree. This is more of an app that will do SMS/MMS as well. It won’t integrate SMS into your Hangouts conversations on other devices, which is a BIG bummer. Also, it doesn’t seem to sense whether or not the other person has Hangouts too and then bump up the video/audio/photo quality on the receiving media.

    • Bill Mitchell

      I saw in some software tour different options in the Nexus 5’s app. There was an option for linking an email to your SMS that’s not available in my app, so I think there’s hope for the Nexus 5 to have that functionality, and future devices as well. Maybe only 4.4 can use it? Who knows, but someone will figure it out.

  • Guy Meatdrapes

    Now give us the keyboard!!

  • jra716

    It seemed great, was impressed at first, then I tried to send an MMS and it locked up. I can’t send anything anymore using it even after deleting the texts then retrying. Perhaps turning delivery reports on in the middle of sending the MMS broke it. Hmm….

    EDIT: NVM. working again.

    • Ryan Ropero

      What did you do to fix it? I having the same issues.

      • jra716

        Should have clarified/updated but I had a hard time finding my post :X. After deleting the MMS and any texts after it, regular SMS eventually started working again. Tried another MMS and it responded exactly the same as the first time. Have no idea why some people have MMS working and others do not.

        Phone: VZW Droid DNA on newtoroot’s GPE Rom

  • Logan Berry

    I wish it had an expanded / expandable notification with options to reply via a pop-up and mark the message as read.

    • rodney11ride

      im with you on this… i use the quick reply ALOT… but with AOSPA and the HALO feature i won be pissed

  • Shane C.

    So far it seems you can receive MMS but not send…nor emoji’s… Unless your composing an actual hangout

    • Alix8821

      Friend with Note 2 and my GF with her iPhone both saw my emojis

      • Shane Redman

        Did you send them through SMS? My friend with an N4 said he couldn’t see them through sms

        • Alix8821

          Of course…. Wouldn’t be saying it if I sent thru normal Hangouts. Of course that works….. I’ll just avoid MMS for awhile. NBD

          • Shane C.

            My emoji finally went through, but 8 min later

          • j6nguyen

            My emoji works fine coming and going to an iphone 5 from a Note 3. instant. MMS, no go….

        • Emojis work fine over SMS here. Using Galaxy Note 3. MMS sending is a no go though. Haven’t tried receiving

    • Shane Redman

      Don’t think emojis will work until we all get the updated keyboard that utilizes the libraries in the system and not the app

    • Chris Schmucker

      Works for me…..wierd

    • pookietookie

      Yeah I tried to send an MMS message and the dots kept moving but it never went out. SMS also seemed extremely slow to send out. Sticking with Chomp SMS for now.

    • I sent a couple MMS with no problem.

      • Carlton Crasher

        Same here

    • Anthony Saylor

      do you have the HTC One on Verizon? thats my phone and i have the same issue.

      • Shane C.

        Nah, I have the Moto X Dev Edition on Verizon

    • Dixon Sider

      I use this on Gingerbread and I can tell you emojis and MMS are working for me. The only issue I’m having is it doesn’t display my contacts’ names, but their phone number (which is confusing when you can’t remember most phone numbers)