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Samsung Galaxy S4 Developer Edition for Verizon Coming Soon (AT&T Too)

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If you were at all disappointed to find out that the “Nexus experience” Samsung Galaxy S4 that was introduced at I/O with an unlockable bootloader, would only work on AT&T and T-Mobile networks, then maybe this news will brighten your mood. Posted to Samsung’s official online shop is a listing for the “Developer Edition” of Verizon’s version of the Galaxy S4 (AT&T version listed too).

The current listing is of the Black Mist model, with 16GB of storage, and all of the other specs featured in this year’s Galaxy flagship. No price is given, but with Verizon asking $650 at full retail for their non-developer edition, I’d guess this will drop in at that same price. That also means that it likely won’t be available with a subsidy (discounted price). 

A date isn’t included in the listing, only that it is “Coming soon!”

We should probably point out that this is not the same as the “Nexus experience” edition. This will not run stock Android out of the box and still should have all of Samsung’s TouchWiz skin atop Android 4.2.2. It will also be on the same update schedule as the regular Verizon version, meaning you won’t see updates any quicker, like you will with the “Nexus experience” version.

For the hackers in the building, this once again is Samsung and Verizon’s attempt at giving you an option. If you want an unlockable bootloader, and a device that can be hacked to your heart’s desire, this would be the one to get. Well, it would have been had Dan Rosenberg not already cracked the bootloader on the regular retail version.

Interested?

Via:  Samsung (AT&T version)

Cheers Open1Your1Eyes0!

  • sgtguthrie

    So with Dan Rosenberg’s Bootloader Unlock method, are you able to re-lock it in case of hardware failure for warranty purposes? If I brick it, I know I’m on my own, but usually you can at least put it back to stock. The problem with these “developer editions” is that they are often sold with “no warranty” as I understand it.

  • Floodjlc

    WTF!!!! I just got the phone from this morning Verizon. Would of been nice to know before. Thanks Big Red.

    • tomn1ce

      You can always return it…I know what you mean. I’ve been wondering the same thing myself. Why is that they don’t announce all the damn version of the device including the different colors that they are planning to make available and on what carrier. This way we can wait for the version that we want instead of beating our self for jumping the gun too early. I’m not in the same situation as you are, I’m waiting for the end of the year to retire my G-Nexus..

  • Dave

    Sammy emailed me and offered me $160 for my GN2….to get the next big thing. I actually did LoL….

    • Ben Landwehr

      160? If your Note 2 is in good condition, you could have easily got at least 400-500 on ebay or Craigslist.

      • tomn1ce

        or swappa -_-

        • Dave

          Keeping the GN2…my wording didn’t make sense, I know a bad deal when it’s thrown at me.

      • Dave

        It would have made more sense if the LoL stayed on the previous line. I meant I actually laughed out loud. That’s a rip off.. ..

    • michael arazan

      You got ripped off, they are selling at a minimum of $400 for used

      • Dave

        No….I actually meant I did laugh out loud, not actually did do the deal.

  • Dave

    Sell the Note2, just for 1080p and a hair faster, with less battery life? I couldn’t ditch my GN2 that easily?

    • Ben Landwehr

      Battery is reported to hold up the same in any review I’ve watched, not worried about that. But it doesn’t matter, I won’t be getting the S4. I’ll pray the Note 3 rumors are false and it does go to at least 6inches(unless they do what they did with the S4, increase screen while keeping the body the same size, if not a bit smaller).

  • Tim242

    What’s the point? Mine is already rooted and unlocked.

    • brkshr

      Piece of mind maybe… So you don’t have to worry about updates fixing the exploit. Updates that may be necessary to move onto the next version of Android. Just speculation on my part. If you’re going to pay full price anyways, you may as well go for the unlockable version.

  • markwebb

    So, since i have never purchased a phone outright, what would VZW then charge for unlimited data? What would the montly fee be?

    • Ian Winchell

      ?? lets see if i can answer this, anybody feel free to correct me. You can’t get unlimited data on verizon, there is no amount you can pay to get it, only those that had unlimited data before they ended the unlimited plans still have them, the only way they can keep them is to purchase a phone outright and keep paying $30 a month for their unlimited data as long as they don’t make any changes to their account (i’m sure eventually VZW will find a way to get rid of us). But if you are not on unlimited data now, there is no way for you to get it on VZW.

      • Weber

        correct

      • brkshr

        VZW ‘accidentally’ canceled my line along with my unlimited data, last year. They told me there was absolutely no way to get my unlimited data back. I spent hours on the phone with various reps. No go. Needless to say I’m no longer with VZW.

        • Ian Winchell

          i wouldn’t be either…and i would have made them pay an early termination fee ;)

          • brkshr

            Actually, I made them eat my ETF. It was supposed to be $275, I think.

          • tomn1ce

            They should’ve pay for your new phone on whatever carrier you went to and eaten the ETF….That would’ve been crazy for them to try to charge you for them canceling your line.

          • brkshr

            Actually, I made them eat my ETF. It was supposed to be $275, I think.

        • Ian Winchell

          i wouldn’t be either…and i would have made them pay an early termination fee ;)

      • markwebb

        Thanks! You just answered my question: have been grandfathered with unlimited and get a hefty corp discount. Great! “Might” save money this way over the long run vs say a 6 GB data plan w/discount w/o buying the phone.

      • markwebb

        Thanks! You just answered my question: have been grandfathered with unlimited and get a hefty corp discount. Great! “Might” save money this way over the long run vs say a 6 GB data plan w/discount w/o buying the phone.

  • Big EZ

    What would be even better is if they released stock Android for the developer edition so we can choose (and have both for more rom choices)

  • AndrewScottRox

    Is the difference between the dev edition and nexus edition that the nexus edition gets direct support from Google?

    • brkshr

      That & the nexus edition will be AOSP Android. This version still runs TouchWiz.

      • markwebb

        But if it is unlocked, you can run any ROM /kernel and such and get the best of both worlds., no?

        • brkshr

          Ya, that would go for either of these versions. The only difference is that the developer version right here works on Verizons network (CDMA). The Google Edition works on AT&T/T-Mobile networks (GSM).

          • markwebb

            That is fine with me. Only care about VZW network. Looks like am springing for the Unlocked VZW when it is released.

          • markwebb

            That is fine with me. Only care about VZW network. Looks like am springing for the Unlocked VZW when it is released.

  • mule0331

    Wait, maybe Im wrong here but I swear that I read another post somewhere that the developers editions of these phones were close to “Google experience phones” with vanilla Android and updates straight from Google. In the article it said there would be no Samsung special software like any air gesture items. Can somebody explain?

    • brkshr

      You’re thinking of the ‘Nexus User Experience’ phone that will be sold through the Play Store. It’s GSM only, so it will only work on AT&T or T-Mo (or other GSM carriers/MVNOs). This phone is the exact same that Verizon sells, with TouchWiz & all that junk. BUT, the bootloader can be unlocked with out hacking it.

      • mule0331

        Thanks bro. Any word on that type of phone released for VZW? And because of the Dev community any possibility of adding those features to stock Android without Touchwiz?

        • brkshr

          I seriously doubt VZW will be getting a Google Edition! VZW was REALLY hard to work with when they had the Galaxy Nexus. So it’s pretty much known that Google doesn’t want to support Verizon. The reason being because VZW uses CDMA network technology & a lot of that technology is unpublished. Most GSM technology (AT&T/T-Mo) is mostly published. Of course anything is possible. I was pretty surprised that Google & Samsung even came out with the Google Edition.

          As far as TouchWiz features being added to stock android. I highly doubt that as well. Those features are heavily tied into the TouchWiz framework. So it’s almost easier for a dev to create an app with some of those same features, than to try to extract them out of a TouchWiz ROM. It’s possible, just unlikely do to the time involved. I know that the Play Store has apps that copy some of the things that TouchWiz can do. Their not really popular though & you have to search around for them.

  • brkshr

    If you’re just trying to avoid a contract, all you have to do is pay full price for the phone. Just like you’re going to pay full price for this phone.

    • chris125

      But this one is bootloader unlocked for good, no guarantees that later updates to the regular version won’t close the exploit used to crack the bootloader.

    • chris125

      But this one is bootloader unlocked for good, no guarantees that later updates to the regular version won’t close the exploit used to crack the bootloader.

  • Steve

    bootloader has already been unlocked, so every phone is a possible developer edition.

    • http://androidforums.com/members/kwest12.html kwest12

      Indeed. I wonder how likely it is that they’ll come up with a way to lock it again and keep us out permanently.

    • chris125

      This is just a less worrisome long term one since you don’t have to worry about it being relocked once you unlock it, unlike with the regular version, but I understand what you mean.

    • sgtguthrie

      Actually, it’s not unlocked. If you look at the Dan Rosenberg’s exploit it’s just a bypass of the bootloader. He even states that the exploit will likely be patched with the first software update. Then what? I’d rather not have to worry about that down the road. If i’m already going to pay full retail to keep my unlimited data, I’d be a fool to not buy the developer edition…

  • Zach

    I might be in the minority, but I just can’t jump on this phone with only 9.6gb of available storage. SD slot or not, it’s not the same.

    • Blue Sun

      Agreed.

      • Zach

        As I mentioned in another post, this phone looks great overall, the storage issue just won’t work for me. I wish Verizon would’ve offered the 32gb version. This developer edition could have been the perfect opportunity to do so.

        • Armorthane

          I was speaking with a Verizon sales rep and he said the 32 gig version was going to be a special order item, but not sold in stores. Who knows, kinda sounds like the typical BS Verizon would pull.

        • tomn1ce

          I just hope that Samsung makes 32GB of internal storage the starting storage capacity on its flagship devices starting with the G-Note 3. I hope they get burn with the investigation that the EU Agency is doing on them for the 16GB GS4 and the lack of user available storage, this way the’ll be forced to move up on the storage dept in the upcoming flagship devices.

    • r0lct

      Yes, SD swap is the only thing that made my note 2 tolerable with 16gb, this sounds even worse.

  • Dave

    Phew…..I’m glad they didn’t pull Safe Mode off it. I like to explore Android at my own pace.

    • DanWazz

      I was gonna ask why they highlighted safe mode on a developer edition device, but this was funnier.

  • huh

    I wonder if Verizon will allow a payment plan for the phone as they will the “retail” phone at full contract price

    • BRIM

      Was going to ask the same. But I doubt it since it’s sold directly from Samsung rather than VZ.

  • GarnetandBlack

    And this is what I get for pre-ordering…

    • mjmedstarved

      My fuggin thoughts exactly

    • r0lct

      I just don’t get pre-ordering a phone. You can get any phone at a store on launch day. Not trying to be negative, but these alternate editions seem to be the norm now and might as well wait.

  • http://androidforums.com/members/kwest12.html kwest12

    I am wondering if CM will rethink their stance on developing for the S4 given the mass sales numbers out of the gates AND the availability of the developer addition and the AOSP addition.

    • brkshr

      CM is already developing for the S4. The only thing that changed is the team that usually develops for Samsung Galaxy phones, TeamHacksung, will not be the ones supporting the international Exynos version. Someone else will be developing CM for it. CM has said all of this in press releases, G+, twitter, FB, everywhere. Someone misunderstood what TeamHacksung was saying. The U.S. variants are Qualcomm versions, so there is really no problem developing for those.

      • http://androidforums.com/members/kwest12.html kwest12

        Thank you so much for that info, I hadn’t heard that. This just made me so much more confident in the decision to buy the S4!

  • coolsilver

    Well since I spent my hour lunch at a VZW store about 30 mins ago and most I did was pace around the store and left empty handed… I’m hoping soon is VERY soon.

  • tkdchampxi

    You mean – can’t stand verizon… ever

  • http://androidforums.com/members/kwest12.html kwest12

    Can someone explain to me the major differences between this version and the regular one? I’m thinking that the S4 will be my next phone and I’m planning on buying it off-contract so as to keep my unlimited data. I’m not sure which one I should be buying though…

    EDIT: Wait, is the Cyanogen team still planning on skipping the S4?

    • http://www.droid-life.com Kellex B

      There is no difference other than it has an unlockable bootloader.

      • http://androidforums.com/members/kwest12.html kwest12

        Gotcha. So essentially, if you’re buying off-contract, it doesn’t make sense NOT to buy the developer edition, correct?

        • La2da

          Unless you want a warranty. The developer edition has no warranty.

          • http://androidforums.com/members/kwest12.html kwest12

            Hmm, can it be insured under the Asurion TEC contract that Verizon offers?

          • brkshr

            No. You would have to insure it through ensquared.com (cheaper & better than squaretrade.com). It comes out much cheaper than Asurion in the end. You just have to pay up front. The deductible is cheaper as well.

          • http://androidforums.com/members/kwest12.html kwest12

            I haven’t looked for phone insurance since I got my DX in 2010, but this seems pretty impressive. IIRC, back in ’10 TEC was basically the only reasonably priced option if you wanted lost/stolen coverage in addition to accidental damage. Thanks for the info (again).

          • Eldorath

            Having used squaretrade for years, I have issues with your statement.

            First off, when my Galaxy Nexus broke last year, it was replaced with a brand new (non-refurb) device. Secondly… what deductible?? If you’re referring to squaretrade, there isn’t one. (Asurion has them, I’m aware, however)

            Overall, don’t tell people they won’t get full coverage on their smartphone from Squaretrade.. that’s not only deceptive, but an outright lie.

          • brkshr

            Take a chill pill man! Things could have changed since last September when I tried to insure my International Galaxy S3 & they said it would be treated as a refurbished phone. Which I believe meant that I couldn’t get the accidental damage coverage. So I apologize if this is not the case anymore. It wasn’t my intention to deceive people. I’m sure squaretrade is going to be just fine after the comment I made.

          • Eldorath

            Not upset, man.. no worries ;)

            I vaguely remember someone on Rootzwiki having an issue getting an international phone insured by Squaretrade early last year… (it may have been xda.. can’t remember which) It was treated differently due to the fact they weren’t certain they’d be able to get replacement devices for International. (might have to dredge the thread up) It’s all good, no worries ;)

            Also, tip for some folks too regarding Squaretrade. They often have agreements with certain credit card companies (in my case, Discover) which allows ya to insure it later than the 30 days they normally require. If I *DO* remember, however, Ensquared allows ya 90 days (which may be a better deal for some people) and their prices are generally cheaper than Squaretrade (non-sale) warranties. :)

          • brkshr

            Cool. With everything said here. I will have to take a second look at squaretrade for my next phone. It does appear like some things have changed there since I last checked.

          • brkshr

            Cool. With everything said here. I will have to take a second look at squaretrade for my next phone. It does appear like some things have changed there since I last checked.

          • Eldorath

            Not upset, man.. no worries ;)

            I vaguely remember someone on Rootzwiki having an issue getting an international phone insured by Squaretrade early last year… (it may have been xda.. can’t remember which) It was treated differently due to the fact they weren’t certain they’d be able to get replacement devices for International. (might have to dredge the thread up) It’s all good, no worries ;)

            Also, tip for some folks too regarding Squaretrade. They often have agreements with certain credit card companies (in my case, Discover) which allows ya to insure it later than the 30 days they normally require. If I *DO* remember, however, Ensquared allows ya 90 days (which may be a better deal for some people) and their prices are generally cheaper than Squaretrade (non-sale) warranties. :)

          • tomn1ce

            Thanks for the info about the insurance. My vzw bill is going to be a bit less once I retire my G-Nexus…

        • coolsilver

          I’m debating the same whether to bother trying again tonight or to wait. I’d say either way with bootloader hack and unlockable boot loader… I’m about to say it won’t matter.

        • coolsilver

          I’m debating the same whether to bother trying again tonight or to wait. I’d say either way with bootloader hack and unlockable boot loader… I’m about to say it won’t matter.

  • ObviousNinja2

    I love pure google just as much as the next guy. But I see the following happening.
    1) Samsung nexus experience. then developer wants some of samsungs tricks like multiview, hover, etc.
    2) Puts tricks into samsung phone.

    3) now you have a samsung phone running pure google with samsung apps.

    …isn’t that basically the same as buying a touchwiz phone and adding nova launcher?

    and don’t cry about bloatware. The performance difference is neglected with a saturated performance platform.

  • chris125

    For those looking to keep unlimited data this will be enticing, but depending on how long it takes them to actually launch it this time may determine that.

    • sgtguthrie

      Hopefully it’s soon!

  • JLO

    Will it be available on Viva Movil?

    • http://www.droid-life.com Kellex B

      You tell us, JLO. :P

    • El_Big_CHRIS

      Came here to say the same ha!

    • http://twitter.com/belogical2 Be Logical

      I’m pretty sure someone can mention Viva Movil anytime and I will laugh.