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Motorola Withdraws Entire Suit Against Apple With ITC, We Wonder Why?

This story about patent battles is unlike any that we have heard of yet. Motorola has suddenly decided to pull their claims against Apple in the International Trade Committee. There isn’t much talk of why this happened just yet, but you have to think that Google might have had a hand in this. Rumor has it that Motorola was having trouble getting their evidence in order for the legal proceedings, but it doesn’t matter much anymore.

Motorola was seen as having one of the best legal shots against Apple with their huge intellectual property collection, so this is a bit odd. Especially knowing that the filing for this move mentions that “there are no agreements between Motorola and Apple, written or oral, express or implied, concerning the subject matter of this investigation.”

Could high-level talks between Apple and Google be going on?

Via: FOSS Patents

  • http://ian.cazabat.com IanCaz

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Google was waiting to see how Samsung’s situation turns out. That way they can prepare for any decent defense that apple comes up with.

  • Alan Paone

    Posner threw the case out originally because neither side could show any harm. They probably decided they didn’t have a strong enough case still/yet.

  • jay_peter

    Probably because Motorola has no case.

  • rockstar323

    I know what it is. Apple is going to make an Android phone.

  • a.youth.in.Asia

    Google knows better then to mess with the richest company in the universe!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=10602828 Mike Hilal

    Most likely, Apple agreed to just pay motorola all the back fees owed and fees on future devices. It’s not like they dont have $100 billion liquid.

  • http://twitter.com/lolititwistter M C

    google/moto just licensed to apple probably and made bank, suit goes away and they all make $

  • http://www.engadget.com/ Jon Fingas

    Technical note: ITC matters are complaints and trade disputes, not lawsuits. The ITC only determines if there’s been infringement and decides on a product ban if that’s upheld. Lawsuits involve preliminary injunctions, fines and damages.

  • KOBALT

    Screw Apple. They tossed their dong around like it was nothing towards everyone. I say, continue the lawsuit. Hit them like they did everyone else.

    • frankandsimple

      The average fandroid IQ is just below 100. You are only attesting to that. It is not a lawsuit you know.

      • Tyler Chappell

        Are your iDevices really so boring that nearly every one of your posts is trolling on an Android site?

        • frankandsimple

          I’m spreading love an education amongst a group of fandroids who have nothing but hate in their hearts and scorn for the competition.

          • Tyler Chappell

            I am quite happy with the fact that my phone does way more than an iPhone and is not a status symbol. =]

          • frankandsimple

            A swiss army knife will do more things than a kitchen knife.. but that doesn’t mean you use it to chop vegetables, or that a chef should prefer it over a kitchen knife.

          • Tyler Chappell

            Then I hope you enjoy using your kitchen knife since chopping vegetables is the only thing you will be able to do. =]

          • frankandsimple

            okay, so to pull the analogy back to the smartphone field.. lets see what does an average person do with his cell phone. Makes calls, texts, social media, stream videos, tether, browse the internet, take photos and share them.
            in all of the above aspects.. the iphone trumps even the best android phone out there for only one and one single reason. It doesn’t bug out or become sluggish and it does the job squeaky clean every time.

  • http://twitter.com/jamesbarone97 Alexander Barone

    After talking to Samsung about their patent strategy last month maybe theyre doing something simmilar to what they did with HTC, transfer their patenets to them to boost their cases in court instead of waiting untill 2014 to start a new case.

    • Chronon7364

      Good point. That would be optimal.

  • Anthony

    Will we see an iPhone Nexus? I think millions of Android and Apple fanboys everywhere would spontaneously combust lol…”IOAndroidS1″ I need to copyright this >:)

    • http://twitter.com/kilxler tony

      Too late. Apple already did and have a patent on it. LOL!

    • JoshGroff

      12/21/2012

  • zepfloyd

    In good ol Slashdot fashion: #suddenoutbreakofcommonsense

    Patent wars benefit no one.

    • Ravi Rao

      False. Patent wars benefit lawyers and bloggers.

      • zepfloyd

        True, The paid shill that is Mueller is thrilled.

  • ericsf8

    omg did Google convinced Apple to make another version of the iPhone with Android os? iPhone 5A ….?? HAHA jk jk

  • Resident Attorney

    Despite the article’s claim, the “simplest explanation” for this move is NOT a global settlement deal between Google and Apple. In fact, that is the most complicated explanation there could be and made me laugh when I initially read the sentence. While a settlement deal is not an impossibility, the likelihood that a broad agreement were in place–or even close to being in place–right now is nothing but wishful thinking.

    The most likely scenario is that the two sides are having talks and those talks have made some progress. This is probably a sign of good faith by Google/Motorola Mobility to show Apple that they are serious about coming to a resolution in these ongoing patent wars. They dismissed the claims without prejudice, which means they are free to refile their claims at anytime so they have not waived any rights to pursue this action in the future.

    This is a promising sign (assuming they did not withdraw their claims due to procedural or evidentiary issues their Counsel may have identified and are correcting before refiling), but consider this your fair warning to slow down on any ideas that things are close to any final resolution.

    • Greyhame

      Gee, thanks for the warning, but I think most already came to this rationalization. The comments reflect the *hope* that there are discussions going on between the two largest tech companies in the world. Nowhere does the article state that a mutual agreement is the reason for Moto dropping their case.

      • Resident Attorney

        From the article, immediately following the quoted language from Moto’s motion:

        “The simplest explanation for a motion like the above would be a global settlement deal between the parties.”

        A settlement deal is a mutual agreement, and the article explicitly states that is the “simplest explanation” for Moto’s motion. It helps to read the article before claiming something is/isn’t stated therein.

        • Greyhame

          There’s a world outside of Droid-Life??

          I thought you were referring to the article here. Thanks for being a prick about clarifying it tho. =]

          • Resident Attorney

            Was not my intention to be a prick about it, but you can similarly understand my confusion when you said the article did not say as much. Miscommunication was all. No harm, no foul.

          • Greyhame

            Fair enough. Agreed. +1 sir.

          • Justin Swanson

            People being complementary after a disagreement? Clearly we have left the internet!

            But seriously… +1 guys :D

  • hkklife

    This can be nothing else but a sign that talks are heating up for Motorola to once again become a manufacturer of Mac clones!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1195621686 Chris White

    I hope they are having talks (Apple and Google). This patent war benefits nobody. We would all be better served with the companies being fully focused on R&D, and delivery of great products, without fear of being sued over even the most trivial of features.

  • Tony Allen

    I’m kind of happy about it. I didn’t want to see anyone on Team Android going for the low shots like Apple has been doing.

  • Mustagme

    Well. It looks like those bullet proof patents are worthless, just like every major and credible tech site said. Everywhere except here, which predicted Apple was in trouble. LMFAO!

  • Daniel Dlugos

    I speculate that the major US carriers had something to do with this. They probably leaned on Moto, scared about losing their best selling device, and told them to knock it off.

    • Resident Attorney

      Google is the world’s second biggest tech giant, recently overtaking Microsoft in market capital. The major phone providers weight combined would not be enough force Google’s hand on anything, much less one of their wholly owned subsidiaries like Motorola Mobility.

      Google does not get told what to do by the carriers. They dictate what the carriers receive. Only a peer company, such as Apple–the world’s largest tech giant–can stand toe-to-toe with Google. Keep that in mind.

      • Neomastermind

        You overestimate how much bargaining power Google has.

      • Chronon7364

        I agree in many ways. Android is Google’s. The marketshare Android has gives Google considerable leverage. Without Android, the market is left with Apple, Windows, and Blackberry. Not optimal for an wireless service providers bottom line.

  • Kindroid

    Google and Samsung had a summit recently to discuss protecting Android against patent challenges. My bet is this is the result of the strategy from those meetings.

    • http://twitter.com/infidel0331 Doug Kulp

      I have a feeling that Google is working to unite the OEMs & basically put together a class action style lawsuit against Apple. A United front would really put Apple’s balls this close to the bandsaw!

      • Mustagme

        And what basis would this lawsuit be?

        • moelsen8

          the basis would be “badass mofos”

        • JoshGroff

          Patents, lots of patents. Also, it’s not a great idea to sue the companies that produce screens for your devices.

  • vikings football

    i could see (and wouldnt be surprised) how there might have been a secret deal that went on between google and apple…

  • r0lct

    I can only imagine:
    1) They are going to re-file with a different strategy (change of IP/devices/etc)
    2) Change between the two is looming
    3) Google things with Motorola running AOSP they can just beat them and win the PR fight.

    With Google merging parts of Moto Dev into AOSP I bet they feel going forward all phones from Moto will run something very close to AOSP and therefor will be protected from Apple’s patents (as they’ve built into AOSP work-around’s to the patents) and they will take the high road and start a PR campaign against companies who litigate.

  • frankandsimple

    Yea, I said this before.. nobody believed me.. Fandroids were thumping their chests!.. LOL.. you silly guys. You don’t become the most valuable company in the world for nothing.

    • Mustagme

      Apple is predicted to become the first trillion dollar company. They could buy Google 3 times over. That’s a company I want to be associated with. Not one that steals OS claims to innovate.

      • http://twitter.com/Cnote215 Buddha

        Then why are you on this site? Stop associating with Android. Enjoy your company that stopped being innovative 5 years ago

      • JoshGroff

        All tech companies steal from one another, Apple is far from innocent. Apple also is an older company with a much farther reach into tech, of course they’re worth more. Give Google time to mature and then we’ll see who the better company is.

  • Greyhame

    Although I despise apple with the best of ‘em, I hope this signifies a beginning of the end of the android vs.apple patent battles.

    • TheWenger

      It won’t end as long as Android exists and Steve Jobs is worshipped as the messiah.

  • MichaelFranz

    as much as i would love to see apple go down for something for once. I hope google stepped in and said, oh hey apple, we will drop this of behalf of motorola because we have your nuts in a vice and in return you stop suing everyone else and make this about technology advancements and not pattents.

    wishful thinking but hey…what happens behind closed doors…

    • http://androidforums.com/members/kwest12.html kwest12

      Came here to say this and I’m glad to see it getting lots of positive attention. I really hope they’re calling a truce. I mean I’m sure there will still be lawsuits, but if they can agree to drop the nonstop nitpicking BS, everyone is going to be better off IMO.

      • MichaelFranz

        Seriously our economy has gotten so bad and greedy that its all about money and being on top. There is no such thing as friendly competition anymore. Granted that Samsung is an International based company, but some things in this world as just moving in the wrong direction…

    • Royal2000H

      But wouldn’t that be coming to an (oral, at least) agreement?

      “there are no agreements between Motorola and Apple, written or oral, express or implied, concerning the subject matter of this investigation.”

      • Trey Porter

        Motorola is the key word there…

    • Naga Appani

      Hey, well said Hey…

    • http://twitter.com/wonderyak wonderyak

      I’d suspect the culture of being really paranoid about being ‘ripped-off’ may have hit the end when Jobs left. He was bitterly upset about what Microsoft did to the Mac and this really reflected in the ways they tried to protect iPhone/iOS.

      I hope everyone has come to their goddamned senses.

      • enigmaco

        I thought it was apple that stole from microsoft?

  • MikeSaver

    I don’t really care about this. On the one hand, I want Apple to be served swift justice for starting all this crap. On the other, it’s kind of hypocritical for me to hate Apple for stifling innovation in the courtroom, and then rooting for other companies to do the same to them.

    • moelsen8

      no, it’s justice at this point.

      • zepfloyd

        in thermonuclear war, no one wins.

        • moelsen8

          except the winner of course.

          • zepfloyd

            Right, do some reading comprehension first.

          • moelsen8

            ouch isn’t that a little juvenile? i get what you’re saying, but we’re not talking about thermonuclear war here. and even then, i’d argue that you could pick a winner. war is hell.

          • zepfloyd

            Your retort was juvenile to begin with. We are talking about thermonuclear war here, that’s what Steve Jobs called it and what he wanted. In actual thermonuclear war, if everyone is nuked and dies clearly there is no winner. Enough stupidity, Google has tried to take the high road and this is likely an extension of that. The comments here these days make me wonder why I bother reading at all.

          • moelsen8

            hey just because you have a different opinion doesn’t mean you have to go below the belt. i’m all for stopping the patent wars too. they’re a ridiculous waste of time and money. but if we could give apple a knock-out punch right before that happens, bonus. they deserve a little retaliation at this point.

          • JoshGroff

            Cold war.

  • JazzoRenee

    Don’t mean they can’t submit one later on.

  • philnolan3d

    I’d like to know why too. They had the perfect chance to put apple in their place.

  • http://twitter.com/jasenmaster Jasen Master

    “Oh, hey Google. how ya doing? We could sure use your maps right now and in turn you don’t sue us? Good deal?”

    • Paul

      They sure could, but aren’t allowing google maps for their iphone. They don’t want to admit they can’t do AI well.

    • http://www.engadget.com/ Jon Fingas

      Come to think of it, that would be the best of outcomes if Google offered Maps on terms more favorable to Apple (no forced branding or Latitude, but with turn-by-turn and 3D) in return for an end to the legal disputes. iPhone users get reliable mapping information built-in once again, and Android OEMs don’t have to worry about software patent disputes… except with Microsoft, that is.

  • Tyler

    This is a very disappointing story :(
    I was looking forward to this case!

    • moelsen8

      yeah same here, i wanted to watch apple burn. oh well. maybe some sanity will come of all this.