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Should We be Worried About the Bootloader on Verizon’s Galaxy S3?

Oh boy, not the way we wanted to end a week. Not only that, but this is definitely not the conversation we wanted to have as thousands of Galaxy S3 pre-orders from Verizon are about to arrive. Unfortunately, we have to go there to make sure you all know what you are about to get yourselves into.

As you know, a handful of lucky pre-orderees received their Galaxy S3s early, and as you would expect, are putting them through the early development and rooting paces. So far though, they have had zero luck. Upon trying to use any of the previous GS3 root methods, none have been successful thus far. And when I say “previous,” I’m talking about the Sprint, AT&T, and T-Mobile versions, which have all been rooted. From what I have gathered, the device is unable to flash unsigned boot.img and recovery.img files.ย 

We could be talking about a locked bootloader here, but before we freak out, let the device get in the hands of more people. By early next week, or even the end of the weekend, we should know more on the status of rooting the Verizon Galaxy S3 and how nasty its bootloader is.

My gut tells me that everything will be fine in a short matter of time. Most devs have been down this road before with one device or another. Look how long it took the Rezound to get S-OFF? The fact is that it still got it. And also, this isn’t a Motorola phone, it’s a Samsung. Try to relax. We’ll keep you updated.

Update: ย Root has been obtained.

Via: ย XDA

Cheers Doron, Jason, andย 

  • Chris Clancy

    Chill out we will get an unlocked bootloader…..Bunch of drama mama’s in here

  • All us Droid X folk are crying together “Not a locked bootloader again! :'(“

  • Jeremy

    Root means nothing without the unlocked boot loader. With a locked bootloader the custom ROMS will all be the same and no custom kernels or radios. I’m returning the s3 and switching from Verizon. Lost a customer big red.

    • jroc74

      Disagree big time here.

      There are many great root apps, many apps that have extra features for root users, things you can do to your phone with just root only. With root only….ppl can use Titanium Backup. With root only…ppl can under clock for better battery life.

      I rooted my RAZR ….and didnt install any ROMs on it. I went back to stock on my Droid 1…but kept it rooted. I went back to stock on my Droid X1…and kept it rooted.

      Ppl have to get out this mindset that custom ROMs; kernels is the end all be all.

  • The Wraith

    Cheerfully typing this message on my rooted Verizon Galaxy Nexus running 4.1 Jellybean, taking advantage of my grandfathered unlimited data plan that ends 06/26/2014. Now that I got that off of my chest, I can troll peacefully. Cheers, everyone!

    • blackmagick20

      Cheerfully not caring in the least bit

  • Wanting to do something about the locked bootloader on the GS3?

    File a report with the Better Business Bureau. File a complaint with the FCC as this violates their Block C mandate. Also you can call Kirtland and Packard and leave a voicemail giving your support for a case against VZW. They previously won a case in regards to the locked bootloader on the Motorola v710 against Verizon. They can be reached at (310) 536-1000. The more people that call them the better chance we have at a case being brought against them.

  • Goose306

    Root and custom recovery is out folks, BL has been bypassed for recovery at least already (which is encrypted, but with root we are able to adb in recovery and bypass)

    Lovely Sammy. Lock the kernel and recovery, leave /system wide open. We are on the route to unlocking. Bypassed .recovery signature in userspace once we got root access, next to try is the kernel. *crosses fingers* if so, we are all good. Verizon tried locking it down, but they failed miserably in the process as they’ve already bypassed signatures on one of the big two.

    http://rootzwiki.com/topic/29256-root-recovery-sch-i535-verizon-galaxy-s-iii/

  • sgtguthrie

    It’s been rooted, with clockworkmod recovery, check out RootzWiki ๐Ÿ˜‰

  • Kenneth Hung
  • Bionic

    Everyone saying “go nexus or nothing” its not that simple. You have to remember some people need to update their phone as soon as possible. A nexus device may not be out yet. This problem may go away though because google seems to be all about nexus devices at least once a year now.

    Also, it would be easier for me, who has always used motorola, if Nexus build quality was more consistently great. The Galaxy Nexus is only NOW a great phone after 2-3 updates to fix radios and other issues.

    Now for me personally, if Motorola makes a Nexus, i will be all about it most likely.

    • Alexander Garcia

      Even if Motorola doesn’t make the next Nexus phone, they seem to be heavily influenced by Google when you consider the way they lightly skinned their version of ICS on the RAZR/RAZR Maxx. Other than the icons and few welcome enhancements from Moto, their version of ICS is the most faithful to the essence of Stock ICS. Moto’s build quality and radio optimization and battery life is what keeps me stickin’ to Moto.

      • Bionic

        Couldnt have said it better myself

  • jak_341

    This is a real shame if it is true. This phone is DOA already. Figures Verizon would go all Motorola on Samsung.

    • Diablo81588

      Do you have one post that doesn’t involve bad mouthing motorola?

    • jroc74

      DOA because of the bootloader?

      You do realize that the Droid X1 and RAZR, Maxx were/are some of their most popular phones? Maybe you meant DOA for you….but you dont speak for everyone.

  • sammy sasoon

    its been rooted over at xda

  • jarch3r

    XDA updated. it’s rooted

  • C B

    To all my fellow Androidiers, you must only choose nexus or you will succumb to BS like locked/encrypted bootloaders. Make the wise choice of going Nexus……for there is no other route!!!

    • blackmagick20

      Yea…not like you sound similar to a crApple sheep or anything…

    • jroc74

      For some….bootloaders isnt a deal breaker. It wasnt for me…and I started with a Droid 1. I have had a Droid X1, RAZR, G Nex and Rezound.

      Bootloaders doesnt make or break a phone overall…IMO. Thats just one aspect of the phone. I look at the total picture. And bootloaders is at the bottom of my deal breakers.

      Some of yall gotta remember…we all dont have the same wants n needs.

  • I think because of this I’m going to make absolutely full use of my Unlimited Data. Netflix? Hell yes. Spotify? Maximum quality. Use my phone as an intermediary between two computers moving files and movies? Sure, why the hell not?

    Because eff you verizon.

    • Beka27

      That’s what I’ve been saying. Plug the phone in, lower the volume, and stream some movies while I’m at work not even looking at the damn phone. My goal is to never toggle wifi.

  • Short answer to this post right now is “probably”

  • Troubled_Asian

    I dislike Apple’s business practices quite a bit. In most cases, Verizon’s recent business practices are just as bad.

  • Jon

    I just can’t believe this. I’ve been reading up on the custom ROM development that has already started for the other carriers Galaxy S III, and was really excited.

    This is a slap in the face. I returned my Gnex two weeks ago to order the S III. And now this. WTF!

    The Gnex has such an abysmal camera, an awful speaker phone, and I also had call problems. I don’t want to go back to the Gnex. I’m screwed.

    • jroc74

      Look at your next to last sentence….

      If the GS3 has a chance to be better in those areas….you would give up that…for an unlocked bootloader? If so….whats the problem? Decide what more important to you and go from there. Figure what you really want from a phone…and the decision should be alot easier.

  • Metfanant

    I can confirm, via Level 2 Samsung Galaxy S Support that Verizon
    SPECIFICALLY requested an ENCRYPTED (not simply locked) bootloader, and
    they are the ONLY carrier to make such a request of Samsung, and as this
    is part of the OEM/Carrier agreement between Samsung and VZW there is
    100% nothing Samsung can do to remedy the situation

    Looks like my SGS III pre-order will be canceled tomorrow and ill wait
    this out…ive dealt with the encrypted bootloader on my DX for 2 years
    (pre-ordered that as well)…if I wanted another encrypted bootloader I
    would have bought a RAZR MAXX months ago, or waited on the RAZR HD…

  • JadedVerizonUser

    And here I was finally upgrading from my rock-solid as-reliable-as-death-and-taxes OG Droid that has been running overclocked (1.1GHz) for over 2 years…I had a suspicion this was going to happen…every other carrier releases the phone in June…Verizon says “Oh it’s not ready yet, we’ll give it to you all fixed up in July.” Sure…”fixed” is right.

    And this on top of the whole Net Neutrality BS that Verizon is causing…

    If AT&T had a better network, I’d cancel my pre-order and switch in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, I need reliability more than anything else, and I never had great luck with that when I was with AT&T. Or Sprint.

  • JulianZHuang

    dont give up yet, still too early. maybe someone will find an exploit or some way to do it.

  • cgalyon

    The ETF is one of the biggest deterrents for many people to switch off. A number of carriers are willing to cover ETF’s, however, to provide you with a free choice to switch to their network if you like. I’ve been eyeing a few carriers as alternatives to Verizon (due to Verizon’s increasingly anti-consumer practices): Credo Mobile, Sprint, and Republic Wireless. When the opportunity comes, I’ll likely jump onto Republic regardless because I like what they’re trying to do. However, Credo (which uses Sprint’s network) is at least outwardly advocating for change and trying to produce a somewhat consumer-friendly option. None of them are perfect, after all, they’re bound to certain market restrictions, but Sprint and it’s affiliates are more appealing than Verizon and AT&T to me. I’m giving it two weeks to see what can be done about the S3, but after that I’ll be looking into selling my phone and switching networks.

  • absurdhero

    so let me get this straight …you made me wait so you can put a lock on my phone?

  • droidftw

    I bought the GNex 3 days ago. I lost unlimted data but doesn’t really make much different to me. The 8 GB shared plan is cheaper than what I had before. I have 4 smart phones and 2 tablets and this ends up being 30 bucks cheaper/month.

    • I am glad it works out for you but for the individual with one phone the shared plans do not add up…

  • cb2000a

    LOL…so glad I dumped Verizon a year ago.

  • TheDK10

    the only reason they did this is because a lot of ppl jumped to this phone to keep unlimited data and verizon hates that. they know they could root it and do wireless tether and such without paying. So they said fine we will encrypt it.

  • CUSTOMER: Argh! Verizon is trying to force me into a shared data package? I will fight back! I will out-think Verizon! Ha, ha! The rootable Galaxy S3 is launching! I can pre-order before June 28 to keep my unlimited data and get one final phone at subsidized pricing! I win! My phone is in the mail and will arrive on Monday, July 9. Screw you, Verizon!

    VERIZON: Gotcha! We knew the geeks with their grandfathered unlimited plans would rush to get the Galaxy S3, thinking it was rootable. We hope you enjoy your new phone with its locked and encrypted bootloader. No? Well, you can return it. Just remember that you won’t be able to get another phone at subsidized pricing unless you switch to our new shared data plans. You see, June 28 has come and gone. Oh, you didn’t get to use your upgrade like you wanted? We’re sorry, but really meant it when we said that eventually everyone would move to shared data. Consider this just another little nudge. Muwahahahaaa!

    CUSTOMER: Screw you, Verizon!

  • sgtguthrie

    Looking like the bootloader is encrypted per request of Verizon.! Read this!

    http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28395222&postcount=167

  • According to the XDA thread someone heard from Samsung that Verizon requested a signed and encrypted bootloader. Damn it.

    • theyseemetrolling

      no

  • lmao nice ….lovin my nexus even more now.

    • yellowcanary73

      Your G/N still sucks with its half ass radios and lousy battery life.

  • What a downer after just getting my shipment notice from Verizon today…

  • JumboMcNasty

    My xperia play w/Verizon STILL has a locked bootloader, on every other network its unlocked. This is such a Verizon being a pain in the ash to its customers.

    • jroc74

      Thanks for this post….

      See….everybody was sooo hung up on hating on Moto and bootloaders.

  • so that’s why verizon waited to release the sg3. they took counter measures against the root methods for the gsm models

  • God DAMMIT Verizon

  • rayray

    if its not rootable i wont buy it

  • Tim Buchanan

    Definitely switching to Sprint when my contract is up. VZW has got to be the least technophile friendly carrier.

    • If I had one bar of service where I lived I would too. Unfortunately I know I don’t as my company phone is sprint so Verizon has me by the nads.

  • Ken Bosse

    I’m not a developer by any means, but if I was I would work extra hard to cracks the bootloader just to stick it to vzw

  • whoa what happened there to my comment? it disappeared !

  • we don’t know for sure what it is yet, but this guy may be holding the answer….
    http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1754173

  • Derek Gelinas

    This is why you buy Nexus phones, people. Android = Nexus.

    • Suralin

      If a recall correctly, we didn’t normally have to worry about bootloaders on Samsung devices, even for Verizon. Now it looks like we’ll be waiting for the Nexus phones from here on out.

      • Lavoisier1794

        What do you think the odds of vzw selling another nexus are? Will/can Google sell unlocked phones from the play store that use vzw bands? Or can VZW block this?

        • MrSteve920

          One option someone mentioned is that they can sell a phone that is 4G only. But as far as 3G is concerned Verizon can block them.

          • Johnson

            Would that work? A friend of mine that works for them says 4g is data voice is still different so you need more than the sim?

          • MrSteve920

            The people behind 4G have been working on doing Voice over 4G, but I don’t know how far away we are from that.

    • Android = freedom of choice, Mr. G. Sheep.

    • jroc74

      edit….

  • KennyVeltre

    I have faith that the developer community will crack the bootloader. This isn’t Motorola we’re dealing with.

  • Knlegend1

    yes touch-wiz must die!!! I didn’t understand what people were saying but Samsung really did screw Touch-Wiz up on ICS!!!

    • jpfrasier

      Try Nova Launcher, it is awesome!

      • Knlegend1

        That is about the best solution right now!!!

      • Bionic

        Go launcher is more stable and super supported

        • jpfrasier

          I disagree. I have used go launcher but when I downloaded ics for my skyrocket I switched to nova immediately. Can’t beat it. I tried apex too but nova was the right fit for me. I’ve long forgotten about go launcher.

  • Immolate

    If you can keep your head while all those about you are losing theirs…

    Might want to wait and find out for sure if Verizon went Dr. Evil on us before spazzing out.

  • fartbubbler

    so when does the RAZR Max HD come out?

  • Aaron

    This why there was a delay?

    FML,

  • Matt

    That sucks, I really hope one of the devs figures out how to unlock it – I love the freedom of the gnex…on another note, your and you’re have separate meanings, as do their, they’re and there.

  • I got this phone ordered because it looked like the biggest upgrade from the Droid Razr that I could get with my last discounted upgrade. Verizon you better not screw me cause I know you have a strict no lube policy!

  • JazzoRenee

    They charged by card, so I should be receiving my S3 any day now.

  • Destroythanet

    I have a lot of faith in the devs to figure this out.

  • jpfrasier

    Anyone who sticks with Verizon is a sucker, so glad I left them back in November. Rooting any Samsung device should be a ridiculously easy process.

  • trixnkix637

    I’m not concerned. I’ll fight tooth & nail with Verizon to keep my unlimited data (since no else is offering it). Coming from a Droid-X I’m actually quite comfortable with locked bootloaders. I probably wouldn’t know what to do with myself if I could root & flash without any hiccups or troubles. lol.

    • I’m right there with ya!

  • Glad I went to t mobile. Got my siii, done with vzw

    • I did the same thing! Broke my VZW contract since my GNex couldn’t get good service and now I have a SGSIII on T-Mobile and loving it! Rooted too.

  • Maui

    Anyone else foresee Sprint becoming the new Verizon (assuming of course they can properly and quickly roll out their LTE network). I mean unlimited data, 4G LTE, full support for Android/Nexus phones…I may have to jump ship if Sprint’s LTE network is any good.

  • Jorge Hurtado

    That may explain why Verizon was the last one to release the phone to their customers…

  • Why must the best network be with the worst company? We can’t win these days…

    • Tony Allen

      It is an unfortunate situation.. I wish I had an option with carriers around here. ๐Ÿ™

      • WickedToby741

        Ditto.

    • blood

      ask yourself this. how do u think they got to be the best network?

      • Liderc

        by building the most towers?

        • WickedToby741

          They got to be the best network by giving consumers the best value. Now that they are solidly the best network, they’re flipping the bird and saying “Screw you!” to all of the loyal customers who got them to where they are.

          • michael arazan

            So if I get their 4g card for my laptop are they going to lock down my laptop too?

    • Alan Hayes

      Why must the best network be CDMA requiring bespoke phones? I sure do wish I could have a Galaxy Note with Verizon…

    • C-Law

      Don’t forget about their lte network that you can’t use! Their ongoing notification reminds you to turn on WiFi whenever possible. I hate you verizon

  • CHRIS42060

    So when the FCC steps on Verizon’s toes they cry and whine, but Verizon can possibly be the only US carrier to force Samsung to lock down the device consumers own and that is fine? That kind of hypocrisy only leaves one question…… when did Apple but Verizon?

  • Awe, that sucks.
    Good thing I’m switching to and getting the GSIII on AT&T in a few months.
    So long, Vzw.

    • jpfrasier

      I got the SGS2 Skyrocket back in November and it was ridiculously easy to root.

    • Diablo81588

      Bad decision. I hope you enjoy your service with ATT, or lack of.

      • Mike Smith

        I currently have Verizon but let me tell you this. I had AT&T for 6 yrs and never had problems with them. Being military I traveled all over the place and we all know that military bases are not always in the best places. REMOTE cough cough. Why do people complain about them. Their LTE network is as fast as Verizon and their HSPA+ is way faster than Verizon’s 3G network when LTE is not available. Not seeing why people complain so much.

        • Diablo81588

          HSPA+ is a joke. Yes, it’s faster than Verizon’s 3G, but thats only because 3G on Verizon is slow as hell. I have yet to see any of my friends with ATT get any more than 3mbps on HSPA+. Just to be clear, that’s the MAX speed that I’ve ever seen. Most of the time its less than 2mbps. At least Verizon 3G is reliable..

      • GalaxyNote!!

        I switch from verizon to AT&T and let me tell you that AT&T Lte is way more faster than verizon lte and far as service goes i get the same service that i was gettinf on verizon with my Galaxy Note now. Dont knock AT&T until you try them and to be honest AT&T have a way better selection of phones to choose from besides all the overhaul Droid brand that verizon has…

        • Diablo81588

          Trust me, I’ve tried ATT. I have much experience in the constant dropped calls and general unreliablility. I was stuck with them in a two year contract, and will NEVER go through that again. It’s not just me either. The majority of people in my area that have ATT have nothing but problems. I bought a Droid X two years ago, and now have a bionic. Care to guess how many dropped calls I’ve had with Verizon since that first day I bought the phone? ZERO. I don’t even know what the dropped call notification sounds like!
          On a side note, the only reason ATT has faster LTE than Verizon is because there they have 6 TIMES less coverage. Wait until LTE on ATT gets more widespread, they’ll slow down just like Verizon. Even then, do you consider an average download speed a 20mbits per second slow?

          • GalaxyNote!!

            Well it the other way around in my area verizon service is suck down here.. i never had a drop call yet on AT&T.. and far as speed go even AT&T

  • Akashi_Raikoh

    Lulz… Obviously Samsung is the champion of the user Droid Life has always made them out to be /S

  • azndan4

    The idiots at verizon strike again. When will they learn that they are alienating their customers?

  • Trevor

    So maybe everyone bashing Motorola for locked bootloaders on VZW should have been giving agro to Verizon the whole time.

    • dude

      moto phones on at&t like the atrix are locked too

      • Trevor

        Haha, then let the Moto bashing continue!!

  • CHRIS42060

    Double post.

  • jason

    i ordered my S3 so that i can keep my unlimited plan. does anyone know that since i already pre ordered it, can i return it for a GNEX and still keep my unlimited plan? i say ‘yes’ but not 100%? any help is appreciated…thanks!

    • do it up

      i don’t see why not. i would do it though, you’d be running JB by the end of the day!

      • jason

        Thanks for the quick reply. I was leaning towards the S3 in the beginning because of the hardware specs. But I do not want to wait a year for JB, when they’re going to have whatever ‘K’ flavor android by then.
        Guess I’ll see how the devs tackle this issue within the next week or so.
        Thanks again.

        • you will likely have to pay a “restocking” fee, but, sure, you should be able to keep unlimited data and swap out for the gnex.

    • elmansdrone

      No. If you return it for a different device, your upgrade will be reset and you will be technically upgrading that day instead of pre-June 28th. You can, however, return it completely and buy a nexus off of craigslist and you’ll be fine.

      • I think he can. When I check my account it says my contract is for two more years even though I haven’t even gotten my phone yet. Don’t think they can shorten it.

      • Lavoisier1794

        Or couldn’t he sell the S3 on ebay and then buy a gnex on ebay?

    • sgtguthrie

      Nope… Already tried it! There’s about to be a bunch of pissed off people!

  • TROLOLOLOLOLOL

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

    -gnex owner & a troll

    p.s but seriously, that sucks big time

    • Tim Allen

      I should of got the Nexus instead…

      • It’s not too late. If the bootloader is actually, honestly “locked,” I will very seriously consider returning my GS3 for a Nexus.

        • Just make sure you tell them very specifically why you want to return it.

    • ITROLLUHARD

      galaxy s3 sucks

      not only does it have a locked bootloader, but physical buttons? Seriously? What is this 2010? Keep your “inspired by nature” crap, I’ll stick to my gnex.

      • +1

        Nature doesn’t have buttons.

        • jroc74

          And nature has on screen keys? I’m just trying to understand this comment….

          • Fair enough. I was thinking of the on-screen keys in the metaphorical sense of “you interact with nature (the screen) directly (the buttons being part of the screen), not through a physical proxy (the buttons)” but it’s not like nature has screens either, I s’pose.

            (I actually am currently deciding between the GS3, for me, main adv. being gpu) and the GNex, for me, main adv. being everything else)

  • realfoxm

    OH GAWD HERE WE GO…

  • fanboy1974

    I almost got this over my Nexus just to get one last upgrade in before losing unlimited data. I really hope you S3 owners do not get screwed. Every Android phone should be unlocked.

  • Gus

    I am going to buy an otter box and keep my Nexus forever. I am hunkering down against all future Verizon BS.

  • Damnit. Coming from a droid x, i went with sammy because i thought this phone would be a little more hackable. Eff you verizon.

    • jason

      Same here! Looks like im going to have to pay VERIZON $$$ stocking fee just to exchange for G-NEX, because they messing with my S3..sheesh!
      touche verizon.

  • I can wait for the community to work on it. It’s unlikely that Verizon chooses this samsung phone to be the first to lock up.

  • I’ll probably just mess around with my SGS3 for a few days and keep my Thunderbolt running in the mean time. I’m waiting on a SIM card adapter so I can swap easily.

    • Tyler Chappell

      I have a Thunderbolt with grandfathered unlimited, but won’t by eligible for an upgrade until december. I’m waiting for my Nexus 7 tablet to get here, and after unlocking and rooting my dad’s GNex, I will probably never go non-Nexus again!
      My next phone will most definitely be an HTC or the next Nexus, assuming Google feels verizon is even worthy of getting another Nexus device ever again.

  • Tim Swann

    This shouldn’t surprise anyone.

  • MrSteve920

    Cough, cough, blow me Verizon, cough

  • Michael_NM

    VZW: Rule the Air, and bloatware, and notification bar, and bootloaders.
    They should shorten their motto: Rule the Despair. Regardless, I’m still looking forward to my GS III and my last subsidized unlimited data phone. ๐Ÿ™‚

  • TheFirstUniverseKing

    All right, good thing I didn’t preorder this. I was already planning on moving over to Sprint, and this gives me another reason to.

    EDIT: Btw, assuming the bootloader is locked, wouldn’t this be the first Samsung phone to have a locked bootloader?

    • bob martin

      I switched to virgin mobile 2 weeks ago. Sure the service sucks but at least there is no contract and no hidden fees at random times. And I pay when I feel like paying.

  • New_Guy

    Be afraid…be very afraid…

  • JFMFT

    This makes me extremely sad. ๐Ÿ™

  • Diablo81588

    Hahahahahahahahaha….hahahahahahaha

    • angermeans

      Why laugh at other people’s hard times. The Android community has turned into nothing more than whiny little babies that want nothing more than to call their subjective choice in a phone the “best.” I got words for ya no phone is the best just your best. Grow up man.

  • Why am I not surprised VZW would do this? ๐Ÿ™
    I’m thinking of canceling my pre-order. First they pull the Dropbox 50gb promotion and now this.

    • wickets

      I cancelled mine this week,,,,,,,,,would take a bootloader locked and sealed forever over a home button, plus jelly bean is so sweet on a galaxy nexus who needs these headaches right out the box

    • Jack Coleman

      Who cares about dropbox anymore? google drive forever.

  • Well, mine arrives Tuesday. If its not rooted by then, well, Craigslist or eBay it goes…

    • bazazzle

      You won’t get much for it. It is a Verizon device.

      • I don’t see why so many people are thumbs downing this comment. Most unlocked phones that sell on eBay or Craigslist are sold for more.

  • Wasn’t planning on rooting for a while anyway, I can wait.

    • thatsdapper

      I think you will plan to root as soon as you notice that there is an always on Wi-Fi notification tell you to turn on Wi-Fi that you can’t turn off.

  • nightscout13

    Uh oh….

  • Sobr0801

    Its Motorola’s fault.

    • Yeah, I like how no one in the comments says anything about Samsung, when any thread about Motorola’s bootloaders has hundreds of truly unbiased and properly informed hamsters bashing Motorola for locking the bootloader while making Verizon look like a big fluffy bunny that tells โ€œwe asked Motorola to stop, but they just wouldn’t listenโ€.

  • Kenneth Hung

    Although an unlocked bootloader is a requirement for me when picking a phone, I’m not too worried. I wanted to give the stock ROM on the GS3 a shot for a little while anyways. I’m confident the developer community can crack this thing by the time I’m bored of it.

    • I’d prefer unlocked bootloader. Might take 6 months or more to get JB on VZW S3.

    • FortitudineVincimus

      my thoughts exactly… literally… almost like your in my head.. are you?

    • jpfrasier

      Install Nova Launcher and it’ll be all good.

    • bjdechant

      I agree. I’m sticking with my Nexus, but on my first android phone the Droid X it was maybe a month before the bootloader was cracked enough to install froyo. I think. basically, the android community was very vigilant in hacking that phone and I expect they will do the same with the GS3. It sucks that its locked, but I’m not too woried about it.

      • The bootloader on the X was never broken, they just used the Moto kernels too boot and altered the /system directory.

  • Ken

    Eeerrrrrrr…..Verizon!!! No worries though, got my rooted GN right here running JellyBean, so all is good!!!

  • teng247

    Verizon doing it for the lulz

    • Maui

      lolz

    • Jack

      lulzapalooza

  • Bakani

    Verizon, not only do you make people pay more to play.. you limit the amount of play we can have. Why do we choose your network again…

    • AlexKCMO

      Because unfortunately, it’s the most reliable.

      • Knlegend1

        Damn I really heard you now!!!

  • FortitudineVincimus

    Preparing for the obligatory – “OMG, if they can’t root this SOB in 3 days I am returning this mofo and quitting VZW those rat f*** bastards with their GD locked bootloaders”

    (yawn)

    • Michael_NM

      Here ya go:
      OMG, if they can’t root this SOB in 3 days I am returning this mofo and quitting VZW those rat f*** bastards with their GD locked bootloaders. ๐Ÿ˜›

    • mustbepbs

      People are just so damn impatient. Relax, people. So many developers have gotten/are getting this phone. I mean, only a handful of people have it, and I bet they’re mostly just users who whine and complain anyway.

      Give it a week (or..*GASP*..two!) and it’ll be dealt with.

  • Liderc

    No, but you should be worried about that hideous home button.

  • William

    Eat [email protected] Verizon.

    • whoa whoa whoa… everyone attacking Verizon with no reason at all here, nobody knows what is up yet. haha, sad internet kids

    • kixofmyg0t

      No its Motorola’s fault remember? Everyone says its only Motorola that locks and encrypts bootloaders.

      • jroc74

        E X A C T L Y…..

        But whats happening now wont stand in the way of haters. I see the Rezound needs a wire trick for S-Off…..and ppl still wanna hate on Moto….

        Amazing.

  • OhAaron

    Oo Hmm… Verizon? Or worse… VERIZON!

  • kc

    yay more fun to have

  • ddevito

    Either you’re Nexus..or you’re not. So therefore, it’s irrelevant on any other phone.

    • Diablo81588

      Huh?

      • thatsdapper

        I think he meant to say “Either you’re Nexus… or you’re not.”

        • Bob Martin

          your either nexus or your against us.

    • TheMan876

      Or you’re on an S3 on a different carrier and you’re golden.