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Don’t Act Surprised About the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon Not Having Google Wallet

Within the last hour, ComputerWorld reported that Google Wallet will not be available on the Galaxy Nexus that is headed to Verizon and our inbox immediately took a depressing turn. You shouldn’t be surprised by this news though. You should be annoyed and frustrated, but you should also have expected this to happen. Aside from the fact that I was tweeting about this subject 3 days ago, you have likely seen reports of the ISIS NFC mobile payment system that Verizon, T-Mobile and AT&T have partnered up to make. If you haven’t, I’ll catch you up real quick.

ISIS is the next big mobile NFC payment system that is being backed by Verizon, T-Mo and AT&T. They also signed up Motorola, LG, HTC and Samsung to make phones which have NFC chips that will work with this ISIS payment system. So basically, you have the 4 biggest phone makers in the Android game, partnered up with 3 of the 4 biggest smartphone carriers in the U.S. to help turn your phone into a mobile payment machine. It’s a direct competitor to Google Wallet.  

You probably noticed that Sprint has been left out? Well guess what, they just so happen to be the only carrier in the U.S. (maybe on the planet) to allow a phone (Nexus S 4G) to use Wallet. But since the Nexus S 4G received access to it this summer, no other phone around has. Not even the Nexus S that works on T-Mobile or any of the unlocked versions. You can flash hacked versions of the app to those phones, but it’s not available in the market or officially supported.

So with the Verizon version of the Galaxy Nexus around the corner, this report that it won’t have Google Wallet is not surprising. We know that Big Red has their own NFC payment system in the works. We also know that Google isn’t making Wallet readily available to just any phone, including its Nexus line.

Like I said at the beginning of this post, you should be annoyed at this as carriers are essentially blocking you from using apps that are 100% legal and do not violate any terms of anyone’s contract. This isn’t a tethering or root-friendly app that would void your warranty or break your contract, it’s a payment system almost like PayPal. Can you imagine what would happen if these carriers starting blocking PayPal? And as you can see above, my unlocked G-Nex can’t even access Wallet. Crazy, right? Then again, this phone is running on AT&T, who also happens to be a part of ISIS.

The good news is, that our developer community has already found a way to get Wallet up and running on the Galaxy Nexus. You may have to root and flash a custom recovery, but hey, isn’t that one of the reasons we are all waiting for this device anyway?

Via:  ComputerWorld

Cheers Taylor and BeerMe828!

  • Anonymous

    : At the end of the day these are 2 huge companies. There has to be compromises on both ends and sacrifices on each side. The long term winner here is Google. And they know that. To give up a little here and now, is at little cost when it comes to the big picture.

    Both sides gave up things they wouldn’t normally. At the end, they both win. At the VERY end, Google wins. 🙂

  • Google does no evil, apparently Verizon wireless does evil 

  • Anonymous

    I’m surprised, like you said the Nexus S 4G on Sprint is the only one to have it at the moment. Maybe later Google will get Wallet out to more devices and we just might see a fight to get it on this phone. But I’m not counting on it to happen anytime soon.

  • Ben

    Am I incorrect in saying you could just download the APK somewhere and use it? I am not very educated on what exactly they are blocking and how it is being blocked? But this seems like a pretty easy get around as they clearly aren’t blocking NFC payment system all together as theirs will still work. Anyone know?

  • Anonymous

    This is a clear violation of the block C auction rules Verizon agreed to… very, very bad move.  Everyone should file a complaint with the FCC

  • Tony Graziano

    I thought google wallet was really only linked to the citi mastercard, and is accepted only at retailers accepting paypass (it becomes the virtual credit card for the real one in your real wallet).

    I DO think think is an unfair practice by carriers. They will cite security, but really, they are watching this early act to see if they can be your bank in the next 5 years.

    Besides consumers, the FTC, SEC, FCC and “any” cunsumer protection organizations should all be crying foul. 

    Also, Google should stop billing the Nexus as a pure google phone, now that they’ve become “cavemen” to Verizon. Google needs to grow up and grow some stones.

  • One An9ry N00b

    Is this even legal. Isnt this anti-competitive, and didnt microsoft get in trouble for similer thing with internet explorer.

    • Anonymous

      Yes, lets force everyone to just use Google Wallet and kill off all other types of NFC payment systems…..makes sense!

      • I think you missed the article.  That app being blocked IS Google Wallet.  Not the other way round.  smh

        • Anonymous

          Its called sarcasm.  Every heard of it?  The guy is saying that it is anti-competitive to block Google Wallet, even though there is no report saying that it has been block, just that it hasn’t been pre-loaded.  Now if you couldn’t download it from the market or sideload the app, then I would somewhat, and I say somewhat, agree.  But if you say you must use Google Wallet then it would effectively block off ISIS because no other phone on VZW has NFC payment system, hence create the same IE incident.  The bottom line is the 3 carriers are going with ISIS and Google Wallet is creating their own system, and they are not compatible….yet.

          • PSU_DI

            Did you not see the screenshot above or read that it is “BLOCKED” on the GSM version running on AT&T hear in the US also?  ISIS is fine and if it is as good as the carriers claim that it will be than I’m sure Google wallet users will switch over, but why are we the consumers being screwed.  ISIS starts TRIALS in q2 of 2012, we won’t see stuff widely adapted til 2013-2014.  That means that VZW will block us from using mobile payments for well over a year with a phone that has the tech to start using it right away, that’s crazy and is anti-competitive, let us use google wallet till ISIS works properly and is out in the market, once it the market let the carriers choose which one they want to preload but don’t block the consumer from using one or the other.  Verizon did this with Bluetooth back in the day and we all suffered because of it.  This crap needs to stop.

          • Anonymous

            What does a screen shot of AT&T blocking the app have anything to do with VZW? Have you heard of sideloading?  This is what android can do even without root.  And, it could be blocked because the phone has yet to be released on AT&T.  Someone just bought an unlocked phone and put it on a network that does not yet have it in the system which doesn’t mean that it is currently blocked, just not supported yet.  Also, how are they screwing consumers?  Google Wallet has not yet taken off.  How do you know that ISIS won’t take off faster?

          • PSU_DI

            You realize it isn’t that simple right?? Every port of google wallet so far needs “System” files that aren’t included in the factory ROM, it requires you to flash a custom recovery and have these files added your system before you can even use the app.  This is not considered side loading and can’t be done WITHOUT root.  
            You are right about the android market permissions but those permissions are provided from the carrier to google so if AT&T or VZW or any other carrierd doesn’t want an app available on there phones they can block them from getting it on the market. Unlocked phones are supposed to be the exception but for what ever reason thats not the case here.  

            We are getting screwed because we have a phone that launchs in just a few days that has the technology inside to do mobile payment services on day 1  but because VZW doesn’t want Google Wallet to succeed we have to wait till Q2 of 2012 before they even start to trial ISIS, more than likely it will be 2013 before the VZW Galaxy Nexus will be able to do mobile payments out of the box.  To me that is clearly anti-competitive.

          • Anonymous

            Its not just VZW not wanting Google Wallet to succeed, it is everyone in the world.  The only carrier anywhere using Google Wallet is Sprint.  Elsewhere in the world they use ISIS.  So does this mean that the whole world is against Google Wallet??  Maybe you should start an anti-trust suit against the world.  As for the ports of Google Wallet, how do you know?  There is only one phone that can do NFC payments and that is the Nexus S.  That is only one phone and only got that support in 2.3.7.  That does not mean that Google designed the new Nexus to need a custom rom in order to use Google Wallet.  That would be very dumb of them.  The app should be easily sideloaded onto the Nexus.  Now if you are talking other phones, that is different but still unknown since no other phones have NFC yet.

          • PSU_DI

            XDA has already ported google wallet to all non-sprint branded Nexus S devices and also to the GSM version of the Galaxy Nexus, that’s how I know what is required.  The rest of the world doesn’t use ISIS yet, they rest of the world has there own formats that are being included in ISIS when it launches, but there still is no reason in the world that if our phones are capable of using google wallet that they wouldn’t be allowed to.  It’s our phone it’s our choice, we should be allowed to use google wallet or what ever other payment service we want till something else entices us like ISIS when it launches.

          • Anonymous

            Then:  root, rom, port….be happy.  It is a Nexus, that is why it is what it is.

          • PSU_DI

            but with a Nexus you shouldn’t need to ROOT to do this.  I will do exactly that to use google wallet but I shouldn’t need to void my warranty to do this.  

          • Yeah, sorry I missed the use of the /runsarcasm script, must need to update my version of chrome.  And I think it was stated that wallet was blocked, in other words can’t be installed without a hack.  But I do agree, it is just a matter of time.  And in someways I think that Google creates these projects just to force other companies to step up too.

  • I don’t feel strongly one way or another about this issue, but Kellen, I’d appreciate a little more professionalism out of you. If a bunch of readers are upset about something they just discovered, there’s no reason to take this tone: “You shouldn’t be surprised by this news though… you should also have expected this to happen. Aside from the fact that I was tweeting about this subject 3 days ago, you have likely seen reports…”

    I appreciate your efforts to “catch us up,” but try not to lash out at disgruntled readers, let alone your entire audience. If they are upset, CLEARLY they didn’t know beforehand. Clearly they’ve missed some things. You are not a high-school english teacher. You don’t assign us reading and quiz us on it later.

    Angry emails are data. The data currently suggests that a few things aren’t clear to all of your readers. Make it clear. Link to articles with more information. Get on with it.

    • PSU_DI

      As one of the disgruntled readers I didn’t take offence to the article Kellex wrote, he has been saying this for days and I think he took this article to en lightness to why VZW has choosen to do this.

  • Anyone else find it funny that we can’t watch movies on a rooted phone, but we can install a digital payment system with access to real money accounts on a rooted phone?

    • dang is it still that way?  I haven’t tried on my OG yet and been rooted since i can’t remember when.

  • Anonymous

    While I do find it suprising that a Google app will not be allowed on a pure Google phone, I’m neither annoyed nor frustrated. Call me old-fashioned (despite being only 35), but I like paying for things the more traditional way. Heck, just for fun I sometimes write a check at the grocery store. Also, where I live (rural northwestern Wisconsin) I cannot name one place that has the capabilities for NFC payments. Some places (the very middle-of-nowhere places) still use a dial-up connection for their credit card purchases. If I mentioned NFC to them they’d assume I was talking about football.

  • Anonymous

    How is this legal? Is this really legal? How do they get away with blocking wallet but not paypal or even square?

    Are they not using their monopoly (it is a monopoly when you have 3 major carriers conspiring to not let a competitor use a competing program.) to their advantage and stifling the competition?

    • Anonymous

      Oh yes, Google (one of the most wealthy companies on the planet) is disadvantaged.  Here is the thing, there are 2 technologies out there for NFC payments.  One is Google Wallet supported, one is not.  Just because the 3 carriers are going with ISIS doesn’t mean that it will succeed or that Google Wallet will never be apart of it.  Once NFC payments actually start to take off in the US, they will combine the technologies or make Google Wallet compatible with each other.

  • tmcgradyr01

    I thought this phone was supposed to be pure Google experience? Removal of Google’s original app = not a pure Google experience.

    I am mad bros

    • Anonymous

      Did you complain when the Nexus S did the same thing?                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

      • tmcgradyr01

        I don’t know much about Nexus S to make the same complaint.

  • If its hackable, then thats fine with me. Verizon and the others will do as they want no matter what because they know we have no choice really, even if we leave carriers. There will be millions of others who stay and deal with it so they’re going to do what they want. So, Ill just do what I want with my device. 😛

  • 2ceedz

    So does this make the nfc chip in the nexus as obsolete?

  • b00ky

    This news gave me a great idea. Why doesn’t Droid-Life.com have a petition page where all of us (being loyal android and droid-life fans) can choose to easily sign various e-petitions that we feel are a worthy cause – like this Google Wallet craziness. What do you think, Kellex? Might droid-life consider something like that? I am not sure of the exact number of viewers your site has, but we can all tell by poll results, comments posted, etc that we could account for a fairly large group of petition signers. It isn’t like we would be forced to sign any particular petitions you create, but it would give android users a central location for finding and signing those petitions. It would even help to bring new users to your site who are loyal to android but may not have stumbled upon droid-life yet (because they were living in a cave somewhere apparently).

    • Anthony Vella

      Worthless, companies like Verizon don’t care about customers, they care about money. Not allowing Google Wallet saves them money. In all honesty, they ruined this Nexus by putting their branding ESPECIALLY on the back. (I am buying a Google branded one). They also rushed those white boxes because they didn’t have any others developed, it doesn’t even look like an icecream sandwich… Its white on the outside and red velvet on the inside. Did Verizon have its period or what?…

      • b00ky

        I hear what you are saying, but independent of whether any sort of petition would help in this particular instance, I still think utilizing the droid-life community to work towards accomplishing a worthwhile cause would be a good idea.

  • Anthony Vella

    You guys are so silly! Its just been delayed so Verizon can get a license to charge us 4% VERIZON TAX on every purchase. Can’t wait for that ISIS either, 5% VERIZON TAX, take more of my money you greedy pathetic company.

  • John Hicks

    This is why we mod our phones, boys and girls.

    • Anonymous

      While it does suck that the average person will be stuck using ISIS, I find it hard to imagine that somebody wont make it work with the Nexus for those of us who will mod.

  • Counsel Dew

    The Nexus is a complete failure IF it is supposed to be a Google-experience phone… Now V is dictating software… Swell…

  • dfsahlk

    Im sure there will be a way around it sooner or later

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  • Christian Bennett

    Android will find a way…

  • Scott Hartman

    While we shouldn’t be surprised by this, we also shouldn’t accept it. It’s a clear violation of anti-trust laws, and Verizon should either cease and desist from forcing one type of ecosystem over it’s pipes, or they should be forced to (hopefully with large fines) stop playing favorites with ecosystems just because they own the pipes.

    • Tim242

      3 current Nexus S models in the US…only the Sprint version has Wallet. How do you figure Verizon has anything to do with this?

      • Stewie

        Ignore this Verizon Troll.

  • Anonymous

    linkhide.com.ar/47632

  • Anonymous

    i dont see the big deal, by the time google wallet is deployed to stores and available everywhere you probably wont be using this current nexus lol.

  • Brian Worhatch

    Screw Verizon just another reason to hate them

    • Tim242

      3 current Nexus S models in the US…only the Sprint version has Wallet. How do you figure Verizon has anything to do with this?

  • Anonymous

    I’ll be ROMing and installing google wallet for sure

  • I now know why Verizon hasn’t gotten a Nexus phone until now. If I were Google I would never ever ever make this mistake again. Why can’t carriers just stick to what they ‘re good for, letting people talk, text, and browse on a phone. THAT’S ALL.

    • Tim242

      3 current Nexus S models in the US…only the Sprint version has Wallet. How do you figure Verizon has anything to do with this?

  • Anonymous

    Someone should make a complaint to the DOJ or FTC. This is really anti-competitive. Of all of the frivolous antitrust investigations going on right now, this would be at least something useful.

    • Tim242

      3 current Nexus S models in the US…only the Sprint version has Wallet. How do you figure Verizon has anything to do with this?

  • Austin

    Kellex if it is true that they are blocking Google Wallet than they could be sued by forcing their customers to use this service and only this service that they are probably making a lot of money on.

    • Tim242

      3 current Nexus S models in the US…only the Sprint version has Wallet. How do you figure Verizon has anything to do with this?

  • Jordanmc109

    ISIS sounds like a anti-competitive monolopoly….Google should bring a lawsuit against all of the partners involved, or get the DOJ involved. Its sucks that if you are not on Sprint you are going to have to end up choosing a carrier-led initiative with no other options. With no other options, there will be nothing stopping the carriers from abusing the the program, say 1% off each transaction or something ridiculous like that. Competition works against these abuses and drives innovation, and ISIS does not equal competition.

    • Tim242

      3 current Nexus S models in the US…only the Sprint version has Wallet. How do you figure Verizon has anything to do with this?

  • Welp, I’m bout to open up a can of MURDER

    • Tim242

      3 current Nexus S models in the US…only the Sprint version has Wallet. How do you figure Verizon has anything to do with this?

  • Anonymous

    You people are placing too much faith in Verizon. The fact that the GSM version came out a month ago should make you worried about Verizon controlling updates and other aspects of the VZW GNex. Might be a good idea to wait a couple weeks after this is released to see how things go. Just my opinion…I know it doesn’t matter.

  • I feel a Cave Johnson Lemons coming on here… When the Carriers give you ISIS, don’t make lemonade, make the Carriers take the ISIS back! Get mad! I don’t want your damn ISIS, what am I supposed to do with these??? Demand to see the Carriers’ CEO! Make the Carriers rue the day it thought it could give the Android Community ISIS! Do you know who we are??? We’re the ones who are gonna burn your house down with the ISIS!!! We’re gonna get together and invent a combustible ISIS that burns your house down! Anyway, /rant over, thought it would be fun for some laughs. The link to the Cave Johnson Lemons audio 
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8ufRnf2Exc

  • Gnex_fizzle

    Verizon blocking Google Wallet from Google’s flagship device.. = grabbing the ankles & bending over.

    Pathetic. Why the heck would anyone even buy a product from google is beyond me. They’ve already shown that they have zero interest in streamlining android and have simply no control over their android marketplace or the carriers.

    • Tim242

      3 current Nexus S models in the US…only the Sprint version has Wallet. How do you figure Verizon has anything to do with this?

  • All I got from reading this was “blah blah blah nexus doesn’t have blah blah blah” I’m buying a D4.

  • EC8CH

    Showing off the phone list again???

    😛

  • Dominick DeVito

    Everyone ask Google about it for other phones.

    https://services.google.com/fb/forms/walletinterest/

  • Ishan Patel

    Verizon, seriously, F.U.%.K YOU

    • Tim242

      There are 3 Nexus S models in the US. Yet, only the Sprint version has Google Wallet. Is that Verizon’s fault, you goons? Blame Google for signing that agreement with Sprint. This is Google’s fault.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for setting me straight, sir! I remember reading about ISIS, but I suppose I figured, being a Nexus device, that Verizon wouldn’t/couldn’t block Google Wallet (wow, just typing that makes me feel naive). I personally find restricting my access to apps, especially ones made by Google, even more offensive than putting (disableable) bloatware on my phone…

    btw, do you think we should be refreshing at midnight tonight looking for a pre-order page?

  • Chad

    Please make your next G-Nex post about the official release day, Kellex!!

  • Anonymous

    Verizon needs to stop trying to ruin perfection.

    • Tim242

      There are 3 Nexus S models in the US. Yet, only the Sprint version has Google Wallet. Is that Verizon’s fault, you goons? Blame Google for signing that agreement with Sprint. This is Google’s fault.

  • Scott Marvin

    why is everyone blaming Verizon? I’m a little curious about that. I read the article above and it doesnt sound like its entirely Verizons fault. It sounds like its Googles fault. Verizon decides what goes on their phones and Google most likely also decides which phones and carriers can use Google wallet. And since this is supposed to be a Google phone then everyone should be blaming Google for not allowing their new creation to be on their phone. Because from what i’ve read above Sprint is the only carrier to get Google wallet on their phones.

    so for the first time ever I actually don’t think its Verizons fault.

    • Ulnek75

      it’s only google’s fault because they decided to put it on verizon.  so i guess the root of if is their fault.

      • Scott Marvin

        They decided to put the Nexus on Verizon. ut Google also decided NOT to put Wallet on Verizon. But its also not available on T-Mobile and AT&T. Could that also be Verizons fault? nope. Thats Googles fault also. Its only available on Sprint. So why blame Verizon over something they have little control over?

      • Tim242

        There are 3 Nexus S models in the US. Yet, only the Sprint version has Google Wallet. Is that Verizon’s fault, you goons? Blame Google for signing that agreement with Sprint. This is Google’s fault.

  • Jose Guitian

    i wouldnt even know where to use this app so i dont see it as a big deal. ive never seen a store accepting wallet.

    • Anonymous

      i agree.. google wallet is a whole different payment system and i see it no where.. then isis itself should be another one as well, by the time its available in 2 stores out of 50 stores, this phone will be so outdated its going to be pitiful.. consider the beam feature.. i doubt most of us will ever use that with anybody unless you live in a metro city.

  • I’m never surprised about the crappy things Verizon does. Never.

  • J. Gilbertson

    back in college we had to sign up for classes on a system called ISIS. It was always broken and slow. Probably like what will happen with this. We called it Incredibly Stupid Information System… ISIS

  • EC8CH

    Gee Verizon… I guess I should thank you for giving me a reason to root my G-Nex the second I pry it from your greedy money grubbing hands.

    • Tim242

      There are 3 Nexus S models in the US. Yet, only the Sprint version has Google Wallet. Is that Verizon’s fault, you goons? Blame Google for signing that agreement with Sprint. This is Google’s fault.

      • Dominick DeVito

        Is it stated anywhere how long that agreement is?

      • EC8CH

        You’re probably right, it’s late and I have a knee-jerk reaction to think Verizon is evil.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    1. Root
    2. Uninstall all Verizon Apps.
    3. Install Google Wallet.
    4. Curse Verizon for trying to ruin your only hope at a good smart phone on their service.

    • EC8CH

      5. swap out battery cover to gsm version to replace vzw logo with google

      • Anonymous

        I guess at Verizon’s current Nazi ways it would be best to remove their logo.

        • EC8CH

          my laptop connects to my wifi without having Cableone stamped all over it, I don’t see why my phone needs to say Verizon.

  • Anonymous

    linkhide.com.ar/47632

    • Stop, just….stop.

      • Cam

        I wonder if all ‘linkhide.com” URLs can just be banned from disqus.

  • Jeff

    Talk about ungrateful. They all run GOOGLE’S software and would shit without it! Time for Google to start their own cell service! Verizon hates customers with brains.

    • Tim242

      There are 3 Nexus S models in the US. Yet, only the Sprint version has Google Wallet. Is that Verizon’s fault, you goons? Blame Google for signing that agreement with Sprint. This is Google’s fault.

  • Sorry but I’m pretty sure this falls into FCC territory under the Noncompetitive portion. Won’t be disabled just not preinsalled. You can side load it. Also, wondering if ISIS will be compatible with the NFC chip on the Galaxy Nexus?
    I think that Google will have much more leverage next time around. After VZW sees how well this phone sells. Not Apple like leverage but more nonetheless.

    Google and the internet will provide us many work around and we can all sit back and laugh at VZW.

    • Christopher Riner

       Yeah, I’m thinking they can definitely make isis compatible with the nfc in the nexus.  After all, its the hardware that enables abilities, and the software that sets boundaries.  Google might not have seen this coming, so as long as they don’t put some kind of nfc firewall in the code then technically any developer should be able to make use of nfc hardware in any device, especially if they are dealing within the realm of the same os.  I’m no developer but this would be my guess.

    • Tim242

      There are 3 Nexus S models in the US. Yet, only the Sprint version has Google Wallet. Is that Verizon’s fault, you goons? Blame Google for signing that agreement with Sprint. This is Google’s fault.

  • MASHED POTATOES!

  • Bill Mitchell

    So… how long until this get’s fixed by devs?

  • Ufcjeff

    they should give us a choice of isis or google  wallet  let them offerus something for their service rather than forcing it on us

  • Sp4rxx

    Why is everyone so pissed?  You all wanted unlocked bootloaders and all that (and you’re STILL getting it)…. just root it, install a custom rom or recovery and install the the apk ….

    Geesh you guys will complain about ANYTHING ….. GEESH!

  • Chargree

    Google claims Motorola will remain independent when they purchase it. Does this also mean Motorola will continue trumpeting Isis over Google Wallet on Google’s own OS under Google’s own roof? I suspect Droid owners will at least have the option to use either from the Android Market.

  • STiK

    You all wanted a Nexus device on Vzw… This is what you get…..

  • smooth_b

    Sprint has an exclusive contract with Google wallet until the end of he year. We should see GW on other phones after January.

  • So wait, we’re being told what apps we can and cannot install?  Why is this happening, it’s not an iPhone.

    • Tim242

      There are 3 Nexus S models in the US. Yet, only the Sprint version has Google Wallet. Is that Verizon’s fault, you goons? Blame Google for signing that agreement with Sprint. This is Google’s fault.

  • babadush

    Verizon strikes again.

    • Tim242

      There are 3 Nexus S models in the US. Yet, only the Sprint version has Google Wallet. Is that Verizon’s fault, you goons? Blame Google for signing that agreement with Sprint. This is Google’s fault.

  • I hate these carriers.

    • Tim242

      There are 3 Nexus S models in the US. Yet, only the Sprint version has Google Wallet. Is that Verizon’s fault, you goons? Blame Google for signing that agreement with Sprint. This is Google’s fault.

  • Goblueboy

    I’m sure there won’t be problems of getting the apk to work on the galaxy nexus on Verizon (without root). You just probably won’t get it through the android market.

  • Im tired of hearing about what the Nexus DOESN’T have … Damn Y’all are Killing it … Damn !! Lol

  • JC

    People need to start asking why the carriers need to involved in a credit card transaction. They have ZERO nned to be involved in that. 

    Don’t support this crap.

    • Christopher Riner

      agreed, Im wondering where the money is going to be made in this whole system.  I kinda thought it would be a free service when google opened with wallet (the incentive for them being that they could more or less direct consumers towards businesses and sales, as opposed to making money off of single transactions) but now that big red has tagged in At&t from the corner ropes, I’m thinking we should start expecting to be clothes-lined.  brought to you courtesy of….thheeee……NAAAAAAAAATUUUUUUREEEE BOOOOOOY!!!!!

      (WHOOOOO)

      • Jason

        The money in this is going to be just like using your debit/credit card. They charge the merchants to use the device and the merchants raise there price to cover it. This is something there are trying to get to replace the card. It will be easier and people will like it eventually, company doesn’t have to make cards any more and can more easily track your every purchase then sell to advertisers

  • Whett Phartz

    Screw Verizon. They’re sicker than a box of dicks. 

  • Anonymous

    Ok I know it sucks that we can’t use a perfectly legal app on our phone that we definitely should be able to. But what if ISIS ends up being more widely used than Google Wallet. Even though ISIS isn’t out yet Google Wallet has yet to find a huge audience either. Who know which will be the norm?

  • Dan Brown

    Sprint has an exclusive in the US with Google Wallet. At least for now. So Blame the Google Sprint deal, not vzw.

    • Anonymous

      That’s what I think to. VZW was like okay, if you’re not gonna let us use it then we’ll have our own service. And have even more carriers/manufacturers support it.

  • I’m jealous of your device list. (:

    Also that’s a real downer, I want to use google wallet to get the $10 lol, i’ll get it on there anyways.

  • Anonymous

    How? Why? What???

  • Anonymous

    As annoying as this is, I’m also wary of installing something that uses my credit card from a anonymous source albeit someone part of this community.

    I guess I can use a google gift card type thing to limit my exposure, right?

  • Dominick DeVito

    Enough complaining on the internets and it will be available by Jan 1st, no worries.

  • Jason Purp

    I don’t even want it

  • Annoyed poster is annoyed…

  • Bob

    This is clearly anti-competitive and Verizon using its own network to hindering competition.  Why is nothing being done.  Justice department goes after Google every week for this same thing.

  • Dominick DeVito

    By the time an electronic wallet system is useable to the mass public, this app will easily be available on any Nexus phone. Not a big deal folks.

    But Verizon is a bunch of pigs, I tried to tell you all but got slammed for it a week ago. Do you agree with me NOW?

    • Billy Jenkins

      I agree. Not many people even know what Google wallet is and I’ve never seen or even heard of a store talking about installing a Google wallet machine to make purchases. I seriously doubt this new idea will become that popular throughout the rest of this year and next year before the next Nexus phone is released.

      • My25rs

        Macy’s actually accepts Google wallet.

      • Dirtiyadi

        So does Duane Reed

        • Scott Marvin

          I think you’ve missed the point of my comment. Google wallet is new and theres no denying that. Yes its being used in many stores but its also not in many stores. which would mean you will still have to carry around a credit card for the stores that dont have google wallet. so google wallet not being available in the nexus really isn’t a big deal since by the time the next nexus device is released it will probably be available in many more stores. And then when the nexus device after that is released it will be available in even more stores which will be in like 2-4 years. so once google wallet is being used in at least 95% of the stores throughout this country that is when everyone should be complaining if its still not available in Verizon phones.

          • Jason

            The whole purpose of VZW doing this is to make sure that doesn’t happen and you are using there system that they are muscling onto the phones. there system is ISIS and is different from Gwallet. There are trying to stiff arm competion.

      • Dominick DeVito

        NJTransit uses it, I was actually looking forward to using it. HOWEVER, by the time the smoke clears Google will open this up to VZW also. I’m not sure how long the Sprint deal was supposed to last.

      • The Macy’s at Herald Square accepts it at EVERY register in the store. And all the Duane Reade’s I’ve been in accept it as well.

        • GWallet_rules

          Agree, I was in a mall in Long Island, NY and their Macys had Google Wallet at all of the registers as well.

      • Sublime8696

        Come on, even George Costanza knows what Google Wallet is…..

    • EC8CH

      for most people you are correct, Google Wallet payments aren’t accepted at enough businesses yet for this to seriously effect a lot of people… but I am disgusted on principle alone.

      • Dominick DeVito

        Yeah, me too – not sure who to blame here, Verizon or Google, or both.

        • EC8CH

          Hopefully it is just an exclusive deal between Sprint and Google that will expire once Wallet is ready to go prime time.  Hard to believe the telecoms would so openly try to suppress competition. 

          • Dominick DeVito
          • EC8CH

            Months ago though, zep was saying there was a lot of debate between google and verizon regarding the inclusion of google wallet though, so who’s to say google wanted to include wallet in the vzw g-nex, but vzw wouldn’t agree it to.

          • Anonymous

            you got it, Dom doesn’t believe anything I say but you landed on it. It was either this or no Nexus unfortunately. Best of a bad situation. 

          • EC8CH

            Thanks, and that’s ridiculous.

            *Rengaging AntiVZW Rage*

          • EC8CH

            http://www.webpronews.com/galaxy-nexus-wont-get-google-wallet-at-least-right-away-2011-12
            sounds like it won’t come preloaded, but will be available from the market once Verizon addresses “security concerns”. I guess I can live with that so long as G-Wallet is cleared at the same time Isis is rolled out. 

          • Anonymous

            I would be okay with this, if regulations stated that carriers had to support any compatible devices on their networks and that they couldn’t enter into contracts with their OEM’s forbidding them from releasing retail phones to public directly.  Then Samsung could sell us a pure LTE nexus device outside of our contract for a market driven retail price.

  • Anonymous

    What are the risks associated with sideloading g wallet??

    • Anonymous

      I don’t think there are any technological risks (like your phone being bricked), but its technically illegal.

      • Anonymous

        Illegal? I think that might be going a bit far…

      • Anonymous

        Why?

  • R00t-ftw

    r00t > all

  • Anonymous

    One major reason I don’t buy an iPhone is that I can’t trust Apple to play nicely with Google.  I may now have a major reason not to continue with Verizon.  It pains me to say it – but if this news is true, I don’t want to support a company that operates like this.  

    • Anonymous

      Sadly, the only carrier in the U.S. that supports Google Wallet is Sprint. We are all saying “hate Verizon” (which I have my share of gripes with them), but this is not Verizon acting alone.

      • Anonymous

        You make a good point.  I think I need to chill. . . .  Frustrating stuff with these carriers, though.

  • Couldn’t this be considered anti-competitive behavior?

    • I’m assuming at some point soon, this is going to turn into some sort of lawsuit.

      • Ravnos CC

        Can’t current net neutrality laws apply?  hmm

        • net neutrality ignores wireless

          • EC8CH

            last I heard the FCC thought differently to the dismay of Verizon

      • Anonymous

        Apple will be on this lawsuit too, I’m sure.

        • Scott Souder

          How so? The Nexus S could do it before the iphone.

          • Anonymous

            Apple will at some point want to get into the mobile payment arena with their future products, and they will not stand for a carrier-monopolized system. Even though they neglected to include NFC on the 4S, I would be very surprised to see it withheld from the iPhone 5 (or whatever the successor is).

          • Billy Jenkins

            in 5 -10 years when Google wallet is being used in every store Apple will release something new for the Iphone which is the same idea as Google wallet but they charge you a monthly fee to use it and they will claim to be the first to use something like this. just like what they are trying to do with Siri. I gurantee you something like this will someday happen.

          • EC8CH

            Credit cards are rectangular, thin, and have round corners.
            Google Wallet is kinda like a credit card.
            Hence, Apple sues Google Wallet.

        • Maybe Google should hire Apple to start sueing all the carriers for them.

      • Dan Brown

        Kellex, I’ve been looking all over the interwebs (and still am looking) for the direct source, but I’m pretty sure I remember reading that Google and Sprint have a US exclusive deal for Wallet… for a certain amount of time.

        There’s no talk of it recently… any ideas? I could be totally wrong; you’re the expert. It’s a conspiracy, I’m sure!

    • EC8CH

      you would think it wouldn’t take millions of dollars and a team of lawyers to prove that… but you’d probably be wrong.

  • You’redoingitwrong

    Pushing fast forward to an age when carriers are a pipe and nothing more….

  • Dominick DeVito

    That’s what unlocking the bootloader and rooting this phone will be for, if nothing else. Not a deal breaker.

    • Anonymous

      I get it.  But Verizon hasn’t shown any class since the Galaxy Nexus was announced.  Clearly they think they hold all the cards. . . and I’m feeling resentful and unwilling to support their greed.

      • Dominick DeVito

        Can’t agree with you more (for so many more reasons than NFC or the G-Nex launch)

  • JoeInMo

    I hope EVERYONE that buys a Galaxy Nexus will file a Better Business Bureau complaint against Verizon about this issue.  I know I will.

    • Anonymous

      Would this actually be the proper avenue? If so i will do it!

    • Jason

      Does the BBB actually do anything any more??? I remember throwing that threat out a long time and it would get peeps attention but now they just don’t care. Just wondering if it’s still relevant

  • SugaShane

    Kellex tells me I should be annoyed. I’m annoyed.

    • Anonymous

      Kellex is right. And now, so are you!

    • seriously, Google get your sh@#, together. How in the hell are you getting bossed around like a subordinate colonial wife. WTF is the point of a nexus device… first off, they shouldnt even be able to stop this app. Screw these rules, the carriers are too powerful, we need a full revamp of this f#$# country and its business laws. FCC, get your A@@ on this.

      • WTF is the point??  He just said you can make it work if you root and flash a custom recovery…thats the point of a nexus device, you can do whatever the hell you want regardless of who tries to tell you to do otherwise…

        • Jason

          But by them getting together and muscling out competion they will make the google wallet incompatible and therefore useless. VZW is trying to block what you can do on your phone like apple for there own gain. This shouldn’t be allowed. Google is already going up against pretty much everyone on this and I doubt there system will be used because of this. The common person is not going to go through all that to use something that is new and they don’t really understand. They will go with what is easier and that is what is going to win.

          • Anonymous

            This isn’t Google’s phone.  It’s Verizon’s phone.  Made by Samsung for their customer: Verizon.

        • Anonymous

          Some people don’t want to void their warranty.  I’m not one that cares.

    • EC8CH

      Call Verizon and ask how to load Google Wallet.
      If they can’t help you, tell them you’re going to call your congressman and see if they can give you any better support.

      Then just root your phone and do it yourself.

  • This may be true, but please don’t even think for a second that computerworld is a credible source… Preorders on the 29th, right??? Confirmed, right??? Give me a break!

    • I write the blog at Computerworld where this came from and can assure you it’s legit. If it’s under the “Android Power” header, it’s under my byline — and it has nothing to do with any other blog you’ve read elsewhere on the site. Like Kellex, covering Android is my job. I take this stuff seriously.

      Cheers,

      JR

  • Anonymous

    ok, im not a android fan what so ever. i just like reading about this kinda stuff. but google need to light a fire up these carriers ass, it shouldn’t be up to them. please believe if this was apple and the carrier try to restrict something like this, Steve Jobs would literally rise from his grave a bitch slap every person in charge up in there

    • Amen.

    • Anonymous

      Your so right, but in Apple case they play the part of the carrier restricting you to only use their product and crippling everything that is not. Google gives free choice it the carrier that says “You must obey me” Apple just doesn’t give free choice at all, take or leave it.

    • Anonymous

      Unfortunately, Google doesn’t have anywhere near Apple’s negotiating leverage.

  • Anonymous

    Still bullshit that a Google experience phone is not compatible with a Google application.

    • Dominick DeVito

      I don’t disagree with you in any way, but no where is it officially stated that the VZW version is a Google experience phone. I mean, the Google logo has been replaced with the Verizon one after all…something to ponder…

      • Anonymous

        Which is equally as bullshit…

        • Dominick DeVito

          agreed in full.

  • It’s not a true Nexus. I have a feeling it won’t receive updates at the same time as the GSM version. All testing will have to go through Verizon first. We all knew Verizon would try to tarnish this phone as much as they could. It’s unfortunate.

    • Anonymous

      Google stated in the same article that the updates would all come from Google. No Verizon hold-ups.

      • Anonymous

        Google also is quoted in saying “its Verizon’s phone” when talking about the Galaxy Nexus. 

        How a “pure Google” phone ended up with bloatware(useful or not ITS STILL BLOATWARE which you f%cks said for 9 months it would have “ZERO BLOAT”) and not being able to use that “OH EMM GEE HOWZ DO WE LIVE WITHOUT IT ZOMG TEH NFC!!!!” for a Google service is beyond me. 

        Im just waiting for that first person to try and unlock the bootloader on the VERIZON version to be stopped dead in their tracks. I will laugh til my balls fall off. 

        • Bill Mitchell

          Such a silly boy! There are two Verizon apps that can be easily turned off with ICS… and like it was previously stated, the OS has not been tampered with Verizon. Programs are different than the OS itself, and the bootloader will be able to be unlocked.

          • QFT

          • Anonymous

            So? You can remove bloat with Titanium as well. The POINT OF A NEXUS is ***NO BLOATWARE AT ALL PERIOD***.

            Also proof that you can unlock the VERIZON Galaxy Nexus’ bootloader would be swell here guy.

            NOONE has CONFIRMED that as Google said “its Verizon’s phone” Galaxy Nexus can have it’s bootloader unlocked…..infact everyone just assumes it can because it has the words “Nexus” in it….even though it’s NOT A REAL NEXUS. It’s just pretending to be.

            Every phone that has come out in the last 9 months I’ve been here has had early info on the bootloader and such……but what about the VERIZON version of the pretend Nexus?

            “oh sure it can be unlocked, it’s a NEXUS!”

            Sorry but we’re gonna need more PROOF than a name. The RAZR is  ONLY LOCKED ON VERIZON so what makes the Nexus special in Verizon corperate eyes?

          • Bill Mitchell

            Because developers use this phone. That’s who Google directs it towards, and development is most open on an unlocked phone.

            Not that it matters that I’m telling it to you, I can see from your posts that you’re either a troll or a child. Go back to Gizmodo 😉

          • Anonymous

            Exactly. That’s not PROOF. Just rumors.

            I mean ACTUAL PROOF of a VERIZON branded Galaxy Nexus with a unlocked bootloader. Sure the GSM version is unlocked….so developers can develop for that and it would work on the Verizon branded one. But you STILL have yet to provide concrete PROOF of anything.

          • Bill Mitchell

            Yes, I am aware… Then again, neither do you

          • Anonymous

            From what I’ve read, you’re correct, the apps will be easily removed.  However, kixofmyg0t is correct in that for months everyone has been hyping this phone up to be pure in the sense that the carriers will not/can not tamper with it at all.  This even means no carrier branded apps.Now, to most of the people who would have preferred that, their disappointed because of the way Verizon is handling this phone. 

          • Anonymous

            Can you please post the link to where it was stated by Google that Verizon has not tampered with this OS except for installing their crapware behind the system partition.

        • Christopher Riner

           sounds like some type of fanboy fearing nexus competition.  I never understood what type of person that it takes, to actually WANT to see someone else fail or become dissappointed.  You must love apple, because your taking their approach.  You want the tallest building around, and so instead of building yours the highest you go around trying to tear all the other ones down (with lawsuits and hammers) and restrict worldwide innovation from other people.

          It’s okay, not everyone enjoys competition.

          • Anonymous

            Not sure how you twisted my comment to say I “love apple”…..you even threw “lawsuits” in there…..wow. Are you on drugs?

            My rant is directed towards the “G-Nex” fanboys that have hypebeasted this thing to religious level and whatever faults come up they backpeddle and say “ohh no it’s ok”

            ALLLL fricken year no matter what phone it was it was “a piece of sh#t” because it had bloatware…..or it had this…or it had that….then Verizon added two bloatware apps(which btw means they TAMPERED WITH THE OS THERE GUY) and the “G-Nex” fanboys all of the sudden were like “ohhh no it’s ok bloatware is ok!!”

            I’m calling out the hypocrites. I don’t care about the Galaxy Nexus myself. It’s because of the Nexus trolls that I don’t even WANT ICS anymore. I’ll wait for CM9.

            I don’t WANT it to fail but when you hype something fricken STAND BEHIND YOUR WORDS.  

          • Christopher Riner

            well you definitely don’t want to see it do well, because if it doesn’t then you can’t laugh your balls off.

            and yes i’m on drugs.  just not right now.

          • Anonymous

            I never said I don’t want it to do well. Find where I ever said that.

            What I said was *IF* the bootloader turns out to be encrypted I will laugh my balls off. Do you know why? Because the Nexus trolls have bashed EVERY SINGLE PHONE since the OG Droid because of the stupid bootloader issue. A locked bootloader hasn’t stopped ROM development for anything….and I’ve even seen people who have grabbed their virtual pitchforks before say that they arn’t gonna even ROM their Nexus. So wtf is the point of having an unlockable bootloader that you claim is so DAMN important if you’re not even gonna ROM ur phone?

            IDC how well the pretend Nexus does. I WILL be glad once it’s relased though. Then DROID-LIFE will hopefully get back to being DROID-LIFE and not “NEXUS RUMOR-LIFE”.

          • Anonymous

            Your not mad bro… Your pissed..

          • Anonymous

            You seriously got problems bro…

          • kixofmyg0t’s dildo

            u off your meds, bro?

  • As long is there a way to hack it on there I’ll be A OK with it. Since day 1 my phone will be rooted and week 1 once the ROMS are made, I’ll have one on there and it’ll be cooked in (hopefully).. moving on… 

    • Christopher Riner

       btw, already a couple (purportedly) nice performance enhancing drugs–err, I mean–roms, for the galaxy nexus and ice cream sandwich.  Can’t wait to unlock this bad boy and give it the juice! 

      As a side note, I have had smidgens of dismay here and there about the ui of the nexus (number of homescreens not customizable, not sure if you can change icons of stuff, no gestures like launcher pro– loved those things), but overall I kept telling myself that even tho it was a nexus, ICS was sweet enough to leave well enough alone (but of course rooting for the occasional rom here and there).  Now I’m starting to think that there will (hopefully) be some really sweet roms with major performance tweaks, and minor ui tweaks here and there.   That would hit the sweet spot for me

  • mkrr23

    wow.

  • Yizzoooooo Vzw is wack