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Don’t Act Surprised About the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon Not Having Google Wallet

Within the last hour, ComputerWorld reported that Google Wallet will not be available on the Galaxy Nexus that is headed to Verizon and our inbox immediately took a depressing turn. You shouldn’t be surprised by this news though. You should be annoyed and frustrated, but you should also have expected this to happen. Aside from the fact that I was tweeting about this subject 3 days ago, you have likely seen reports of the ISIS NFC mobile payment system that Verizon, T-Mobile and AT&T have partnered up to make. If you haven’t, I’ll catch you up real quick.

ISIS is the next big mobile NFC payment system that is being backed by Verizon, T-Mo and AT&T. They also signed up Motorola, LG, HTC and Samsung to make phones which have NFC chips that will work with this ISIS payment system. So basically, you have the 4 biggest phone makers in the Android game, partnered up with 3 of the 4 biggest smartphone carriers in the U.S. to help turn your phone into a mobile payment machine. It’s a direct competitor to Google Wallet.  

You probably noticed that Sprint has been left out? Well guess what, they just so happen to be the only carrier in the U.S. (maybe on the planet) to allow a phone (Nexus S 4G) to use Wallet. But since the Nexus S 4G received access to it this summer, no other phone around has. Not even the Nexus S that works on T-Mobile or any of the unlocked versions. You can flash hacked versions of the app to those phones, but it’s not available in the market or officially supported.

So with the Verizon version of the Galaxy Nexus around the corner, this report that it won’t have Google Wallet is not surprising. We know that Big Red has their own NFC payment system in the works. We also know that Google isn’t making Wallet readily available to just any phone, including its Nexus line.

Like I said at the beginning of this post, you should be annoyed at this as carriers are essentially blocking you from using apps that are 100% legal and do not violate any terms of anyone’s contract. This isn’t a tethering or root-friendly app that would void your warranty or break your contract, it’s a payment system almost like PayPal. Can you imagine what would happen if these carriers starting blocking PayPal? And as you can see above, my unlocked G-Nex can’t even access Wallet. Crazy, right? Then again, this phone is running on AT&T, who also happens to be a part of ISIS.

The good news is, that our developer community has already found a way to get Wallet up and running on the Galaxy Nexus. You may have to root and flash a custom recovery, but hey, isn’t that one of the reasons we are all waiting for this device anyway?

Via:  ComputerWorld

Cheers Taylor and BeerMe828!

  • Anonymous

    : At the end of the day these are 2 huge companies. There has to be compromises on both ends and sacrifices on each side. The long term winner here is Google. And they know that. To give up a little here and now, is at little cost when it comes to the big picture.

    Both sides gave up things they wouldn’t normally. At the end, they both win. At the VERY end, Google wins. :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/mikekrnboy Mike Lim

    Google does no evil, apparently Verizon wireless does evil 

  • Anonymous

    I’m surprised, like you said the Nexus S 4G on Sprint is the only one to have it at the moment. Maybe later Google will get Wallet out to more devices and we just might see a fight to get it on this phone. But I’m not counting on it to happen anytime soon.

  • http://twitter.com/DodgingDonkey Ben

    Am I incorrect in saying you could just download the APK somewhere and use it? I am not very educated on what exactly they are blocking and how it is being blocked? But this seems like a pretty easy get around as they clearly aren’t blocking NFC payment system all together as theirs will still work. Anyone know?

  • Anonymous

    This is a clear violation of the block C auction rules Verizon agreed to… very, very bad move.  Everyone should file a complaint with the FCC

  • Tony Graziano

    I thought google wallet was really only linked to the citi mastercard, and is accepted only at retailers accepting paypass (it becomes the virtual credit card for the real one in your real wallet).

    I DO think think is an unfair practice by carriers. They will cite security, but really, they are watching this early act to see if they can be your bank in the next 5 years.

    Besides consumers, the FTC, SEC, FCC and “any” cunsumer protection organizations should all be crying foul. 

    Also, Google should stop billing the Nexus as a pure google phone, now that they’ve become “cavemen” to Verizon. Google needs to grow up and grow some stones.

  • One An9ry N00b

    Is this even legal. Isnt this anti-competitive, and didnt microsoft get in trouble for similer thing with internet explorer.

    • Anonymous

      Yes, lets force everyone to just use Google Wallet and kill off all other types of NFC payment systems…..makes sense!

      • http://twitter.com/Justinwrites Justin True Anderson

        I think you missed the article.  That app being blocked IS Google Wallet.  Not the other way round.  smh

        • Anonymous

          Its called sarcasm.  Every heard of it?  The guy is saying that it is anti-competitive to block Google Wallet, even though there is no report saying that it has been block, just that it hasn’t been pre-loaded.  Now if you couldn’t download it from the market or sideload the app, then I would somewhat, and I say somewhat, agree.  But if you say you must use Google Wallet then it would effectively block off ISIS because no other phone on VZW has NFC payment system, hence create the same IE incident.  The bottom line is the 3 carriers are going with ISIS and Google Wallet is creating their own system, and they are not compatible….yet.

          • PSU_DI

            Did you not see the screenshot above or read that it is “BLOCKED” on the GSM version running on AT&T hear in the US also?  ISIS is fine and if it is as good as the carriers claim that it will be than I’m sure Google wallet users will switch over, but why are we the consumers being screwed.  ISIS starts TRIALS in q2 of 2012, we won’t see stuff widely adapted til 2013-2014.  That means that VZW will block us from using mobile payments for well over a year with a phone that has the tech to start using it right away, that’s crazy and is anti-competitive, let us use google wallet till ISIS works properly and is out in the market, once it the market let the carriers choose which one they want to preload but don’t block the consumer from using one or the other.  Verizon did this with Bluetooth back in the day and we all suffered because of it.  This crap needs to stop.

          • Anonymous

            What does a screen shot of AT&T blocking the app have anything to do with VZW? Have you heard of sideloading?  This is what android can do even without root.  And, it could be blocked because the phone has yet to be released on AT&T.  Someone just bought an unlocked phone and put it on a network that does not yet have it in the system which doesn’t mean that it is currently blocked, just not supported yet.  Also, how are they screwing consumers?  Google Wallet has not yet taken off.  How do you know that ISIS won’t take off faster?

          • PSU_DI

            You realize it isn’t that simple right?? Every port of google wallet so far needs “System” files that aren’t included in the factory ROM, it requires you to flash a custom recovery and have these files added your system before you can even use the app.  This is not considered side loading and can’t be done WITHOUT root.  
            You are right about the android market permissions but those permissions are provided from the carrier to google so if AT&T or VZW or any other carrierd doesn’t want an app available on there phones they can block them from getting it on the market. Unlocked phones are supposed to be the exception but for what ever reason thats not the case here.  

            We are getting screwed because we have a phone that launchs in just a few days that has the technology inside to do mobile payment services on day 1  but because VZW doesn’t want Google Wallet to succeed we have to wait till Q2 of 2012 before they even start to trial ISIS, more than likely it will be 2013 before the VZW Galaxy Nexus will be able to do mobile payments out of the box.  To me that is clearly anti-competitive.

          • Anonymous

            Its not just VZW not wanting Google Wallet to succeed, it is everyone in the world.  The only carrier anywhere using Google Wallet is Sprint.  Elsewhere in the world they use ISIS.  So does this mean that the whole world is against Google Wallet??  Maybe you should start an anti-trust suit against the world.  As for the ports of Google Wallet, how do you know?  There is only one phone that can do NFC payments and that is the Nexus S.  That is only one phone and only got that support in 2.3.7.  That does not mean that Google designed the new Nexus to need a custom rom in order to use Google Wallet.  That would be very dumb of them.  The app should be easily sideloaded onto the Nexus.  Now if you are talking other phones, that is different but still unknown since no other phones have NFC yet.

          • PSU_DI

            XDA has already ported google wallet to all non-sprint branded Nexus S devices and also to the GSM version of the Galaxy Nexus, that’s how I know what is required.  The rest of the world doesn’t use ISIS yet, they rest of the world has there own formats that are being included in ISIS when it launches, but there still is no reason in the world that if our phones are capable of using google wallet that they wouldn’t be allowed to.  It’s our phone it’s our choice, we should be allowed to use google wallet or what ever other payment service we want till something else entices us like ISIS when it launches.

          • Anonymous

            Then:  root, rom, port….be happy.  It is a Nexus, that is why it is what it is.

          • PSU_DI

            but with a Nexus you shouldn’t need to ROOT to do this.  I will do exactly that to use google wallet but I shouldn’t need to void my warranty to do this.  

          • http://twitter.com/Justinwrites Justin True Anderson

            Yeah, sorry I missed the use of the /runsarcasm script, must need to update my version of chrome.  And I think it was stated that wallet was blocked, in other words can’t be installed without a hack.  But I do agree, it is just a matter of time.  And in someways I think that Google creates these projects just to force other companies to step up too.

  • http://www.kevinkuramura.com KevK

    I don’t feel strongly one way or another about this issue, but Kellen, I’d appreciate a little more professionalism out of you. If a bunch of readers are upset about something they just discovered, there’s no reason to take this tone: “You shouldn’t be surprised by this news though… you should also have expected this to happen. Aside from the fact that I was tweeting about this subject 3 days ago, you have likely seen reports…”

    I appreciate your efforts to “catch us up,” but try not to lash out at disgruntled readers, let alone your entire audience. If they are upset, CLEARLY they didn’t know beforehand. Clearly they’ve missed some things. You are not a high-school english teacher. You don’t assign us reading and quiz us on it later.

    Angry emails are data. The data currently suggests that a few things aren’t clear to all of your readers. Make it clear. Link to articles with more information. Get on with it.

    • PSU_DI

      As one of the disgruntled readers I didn’t take offence to the article Kellex wrote, he has been saying this for days and I think he took this article to en lightness to why VZW has choosen to do this.

  • http://profiles.google.com/pdenson Paul Denson

    Anyone else find it funny that we can’t watch movies on a rooted phone, but we can install a digital payment system with access to real money accounts on a rooted phone?

    • http://twitter.com/Justinwrites Justin True Anderson

      dang is it still that way?  I haven’t tried on my OG yet and been rooted since i can’t remember when.

  • Anonymous

    While I do find it suprising that a Google app will not be allowed on a pure Google phone, I’m neither annoyed nor frustrated. Call me old-fashioned (despite being only 35), but I like paying for things the more traditional way. Heck, just for fun I sometimes write a check at the grocery store. Also, where I live (rural northwestern Wisconsin) I cannot name one place that has the capabilities for NFC payments. Some places (the very middle-of-nowhere places) still use a dial-up connection for their credit card purchases. If I mentioned NFC to them they’d assume I was talking about football.

  • Anonymous

    How is this legal? Is this really legal? How do they get away with blocking wallet but not paypal or even square?

    Are they not using their monopoly (it is a monopoly when you have 3 major carriers conspiring to not let a competitor use a competing program.) to their advantage and stifling the competition?

    • Anonymous

      Oh yes, Google (one of the most wealthy companies on the planet) is disadvantaged.  Here is the thing, there are 2 technologies out there for NFC payments.  One is Google Wallet supported, one is not.  Just because the 3 carriers are going with ISIS doesn’t mean that it will succeed or that Google Wallet will never be apart of it.  Once NFC payments actually start to take off in the US, they will combine the technologies or make Google Wallet compatible with each other.

  • tmcgradyr01

    I thought this phone was supposed to be pure Google experience? Removal of Google’s original app = not a pure Google experience.

    I am mad bros

    • Anonymous

      Did you complain when the Nexus S did the same thing?                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

      • tmcgradyr01

        I don’t know much about Nexus S to make the same complaint.

  • http://twitter.com/Phaze08 Cody Revels

    If its hackable, then thats fine with me. Verizon and the others will do as they want no matter what because they know we have no choice really, even if we leave carriers. There will be millions of others who stay and deal with it so they’re going to do what they want. So, Ill just do what I want with my device. :P

  • 2ceedz

    So does this make the nfc chip in the nexus as obsolete?

  • b00ky

    This news gave me a great idea. Why doesn’t Droid-Life.com have a petition page where all of us (being loyal android and droid-life fans) can choose to easily sign various e-petitions that we feel are a worthy cause – like this Google Wallet craziness. What do you think, Kellex? Might droid-life consider something like that? I am not sure of the exact number of viewers your site has, but we can all tell by poll results, comments posted, etc that we could account for a fairly large group of petition signers. It isn’t like we would be forced to sign any particular petitions you create, but it would give android users a central location for finding and signing those petitions. It would even help to bring new users to your site who are loyal to android but may not have stumbled upon droid-life yet (because they were living in a cave somewhere apparently).

    • Anthony Vella

      Worthless, companies like Verizon don’t care about customers, they care about money. Not allowing Google Wallet saves them money. In all honesty, they ruined this Nexus by putting their branding ESPECIALLY on the back. (I am buying a Google branded one). They also rushed those white boxes because they didn’t have any others developed, it doesn’t even look like an icecream sandwich… Its white on the outside and red velvet on the inside. Did Verizon have its period or what?…

      • b00ky

        I hear what you are saying, but independent of whether any sort of petition would help in this particular instance, I still think utilizing the droid-life community to work towards accomplishing a worthwhile cause would be a good idea.

  • Anthony Vella

    You guys are so silly! Its just been delayed so Verizon can get a license to charge us 4% VERIZON TAX on every purchase. Can’t wait for that ISIS either, 5% VERIZON TAX, take more of my money you greedy pathetic company.

  • John Hicks

    This is why we mod our phones, boys and girls.

    • Anonymous

      While it does suck that the average person will be stuck using ISIS, I find it hard to imagine that somebody wont make it work with the Nexus for those of us who will mod.

  • Counsel Dew

    The Nexus is a complete failure IF it is supposed to be a Google-experience phone… Now V is dictating software… Swell…

  • dfsahlk

    Im sure there will be a way around it sooner or later

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  • Christian Bennett

    Android will find a way…

  • Scott Hartman

    While we shouldn’t be surprised by this, we also shouldn’t accept it. It’s a clear violation of anti-trust laws, and Verizon should either cease and desist from forcing one type of ecosystem over it’s pipes, or they should be forced to (hopefully with large fines) stop playing favorites with ecosystems just because they own the pipes.

    • Tim242

      3 current Nexus S models in the US…only the Sprint version has Wallet. How do you figure Verizon has anything to do with this?

      • Stewie

        Ignore this Verizon Troll.

  • Anonymous

    linkhide.com.ar/47632

  • Anonymous

    i dont see the big deal, by the time google wallet is deployed to stores and available everywhere you probably wont be using this current nexus lol.

  • Brian Worhatch

    Screw Verizon just another reason to hate them

    • Tim242

      3 current Nexus S models in the US…only the Sprint version has Wallet. How do you figure Verizon has anything to do with this?

  • Anonymous

    I’ll be ROMing and installing google wallet for sure

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000155987673 Austin Mutschler

    I now know why Verizon hasn’t gotten a Nexus phone until now. If I were Google I would never ever ever make this mistake again. Why can’t carriers just stick to what they ‘re good for, letting people talk, text, and browse on a phone. THAT’S ALL.

    • Tim242

      3 current Nexus S models in the US…only the Sprint version has Wallet. How do you figure Verizon has anything to do with this?

  • Anonymous

    Someone should make a complaint to the DOJ or FTC. This is really anti-competitive. Of all of the frivolous antitrust investigations going on right now, this would be at least something useful.

    • Tim242

      3 current Nexus S models in the US…only the Sprint version has Wallet. How do you figure Verizon has anything to do with this?

  • Austin

    Kellex if it is true that they are blocking Google Wallet than they could be sued by forcing their customers to use this service and only this service that they are probably making a lot of money on.

    • Tim242

      3 current Nexus S models in the US…only the Sprint version has Wallet. How do you figure Verizon has anything to do with this?

  • Jordanmc109

    ISIS sounds like a anti-competitive monolopoly….Google should bring a lawsuit against all of the partners involved, or get the DOJ involved. Its sucks that if you are not on Sprint you are going to have to end up choosing a carrier-led initiative with no other options. With no other options, there will be nothing stopping the carriers from abusing the the program, say 1% off each transaction or something ridiculous like that. Competition works against these abuses and drives innovation, and ISIS does not equal competition.

    • Tim242

      3 current Nexus S models in the US…only the Sprint version has Wallet. How do you figure Verizon has anything to do with this?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Zack-Pudney/16112745 Zack Pudney

    Welp, I’m bout to open up a can of MURDER

    • Tim242

      3 current Nexus S models in the US…only the Sprint version has Wallet. How do you figure Verizon has anything to do with this?

  • Anonymous

    You people are placing too much faith in Verizon. The fact that the GSM version came out a month ago should make you worried about Verizon controlling updates and other aspects of the VZW GNex. Might be a good idea to wait a couple weeks after this is released to see how things go. Just my opinion…I know it doesn’t matter.

  • http://profiles.google.com/davidajmartinez Dave Martinez

    I feel a Cave Johnson Lemons coming on here… When the Carriers give you ISIS, don’t make lemonade, make the Carriers take the ISIS back! Get mad! I don’t want your damn ISIS, what am I supposed to do with these??? Demand to see the Carriers’ CEO! Make the Carriers rue the day it thought it could give the Android Community ISIS! Do you know who we are??? We’re the ones who are gonna burn your house down with the ISIS!!! We’re gonna get together and invent a combustible ISIS that burns your house down! Anyway, /rant over, thought it would be fun for some laughs. The link to the Cave Johnson Lemons audio 
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8ufRnf2Exc

  • Gnex_fizzle

    Verizon blocking Google Wallet from Google’s flagship device.. = grabbing the ankles & bending over.

    Pathetic. Why the heck would anyone even buy a product from google is beyond me. They’ve already shown that they have zero interest in streamlining android and have simply no control over their android marketplace or the carriers.

    • Tim242

      3 current Nexus S models in the US…only the Sprint version has Wallet. How do you figure Verizon has anything to do with this?

  • http://profiles.google.com/spc.hicks09 Gary Hicks

    All I got from reading this was “blah blah blah nexus doesn’t have blah blah blah” I’m buying a D4.

  • EC8CH

    Showing off the phone list again???

    :-P

  • Dominick DeVito

    Everyone ask Google about it for other phones.

    https://services.google.com/fb/forms/walletinterest/

  • Ishan Patel

    Verizon, seriously, F.U.%.K YOU

    • Tim242

      There are 3 Nexus S models in the US. Yet, only the Sprint version has Google Wallet. Is that Verizon’s fault, you goons? Blame Google for signing that agreement with Sprint. This is Google’s fault.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for setting me straight, sir! I remember reading about ISIS, but I suppose I figured, being a Nexus device, that Verizon wouldn’t/couldn’t block Google Wallet (wow, just typing that makes me feel naive). I personally find restricting my access to apps, especially ones made by Google, even more offensive than putting (disableable) bloatware on my phone…

    btw, do you think we should be refreshing at midnight tonight looking for a pre-order page?

  • Chad

    Please make your next G-Nex post about the official release day, Kellex!!