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Hands-on with the DROID Bionic by Motorola (Updated: Video Added)

And a DROID Bionic is in our possession.  I obviously haven’t had enough time with it to do a full review or anything, but can give you my first impressions on a device that has been 9 painful months in the making.

So what do I think of Verizon’s first dual-core and 4G LTE device?  All good so far.  I am loving the feel in hand – the build quality lives up to Moto standards.  It’s a heck of a lot lighter than I expected it to be.  Is thinner than I expected it to be.  Is definitely snappier than the DROID3 even though they have almost identical specs, aside from the doubling of the RAM of course.

“But what about the screen?  Is it PenTile Matrix?”  Yes, unfortunately it is.  However, it’s not completely killing my eyes at this moment.  You can definitely see some black pixels and some not-so-straight lines, along with it struggling to produce green.  This will be a problem, but we are going to try our best to not focus just on that as one of its downfalls.

Again, so far I am really liking the phone.  With that said, let’s not jump to any crazy conclusions until we have some real time with it to decide if it should be your next device or if you should pass on it for the HTC Vigor or Nexus Prime.

Gallery after the jump!  (Video added)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s641K-KZs6E[/youtube]

  • KC

    I bought the Bionic Friday.  A comment about battery life.  The battery is at 50% after 5 hours of mostly idle time, with a lifespan of about 9 hours before requiring a charge.  If you have Bluetooth or WiFi turned on the total life span is about 3.5 hours.  It is just awful. 
    My wife has the Droid Charge and that thing can sit with WiFi turned on (and 4G) for 36 hours straight without having to charge.  My old Storm could go the same with WiFi and Bluetooth turned on.
    If something doesn’t change quick, the Bionic going back to Verizon and I will be getting the Charge, or waiting for Samsung’s next model.

  • Anonymous

    Did anyone notice that Moto car dock, and the desktop dock now have an insert that you can remove so you can “dock” without removing the phone’s cover? I’m sure it’s probably designed just for their silicon cover… but that’s freak’n awesome!

  • Legoturte92

    I miss the charge light on my og droid and my contacts aren’t syncing correctly. That is the only things I didn’t like on this phone. I did have to return my first one for a faulty screen though.

    • Legoturte92

      They did give me a 2nd battery cover for the hassle though.

  • Joseph Sanders

    My two bits:

    I bought one yesterday.
    Screen:  its fine.  Not as much punch as the galaxy phones but usability is fine. I’ve very willing to trade a punchy screen for better battery life.

    Speed: its fast.  You never wait .

    Motoblur: I never used earlier versions.  I like it better than HTC sense.

    My opinion:  the best 4G phone on the verizon right NOW.

    -Joe

  • Nruiz

    i am trying to sync my Rdio music but it keeps synching onto internal storage.  it is very frustrating.

  • Nruiz

    Anyone know how to move apps to external sd card on this “Beast” ???

  • Got my Bionic today!!! I’m fully satisfied with it.

  • Anonymous

    I loved the phone after i got some hands on time with it, however i love to see a 4.5 inch screen( verizo still dosent have one. And a 1.5 dual core processor wouldent have hurt, it reminds me of just a DROIDX 2 with 4G.

  • tlspatt

    the lifted edge (or “lint trapping machine”) keeps you from scratching the screen or anti-glare screen protector when laying the phone flat on it’s face. it’s actually quite helpful and I hate not having one on my DX.  

  • Eric Jones

    Can you comment on the status LED?  One of the things I love about my original droid is the ability to have a near limitless number of notification colors for different types of events, but I’ve noticed that this is the exception to the rule more than it is the norm, with the Incredible 2 only supporting two colors and many devices not even having LEDs.  What’s the situation like on the BIONIC?

  • Billyrouth2000

    I was on the verizon website and they have the screen as being super amoled. What gives?

    • Billyrouth2000

      Just noticed they also say its a 1g humingbird processer. Lmao who the heck is running that website

  • Donnavon Hallgren

    It’s missing a slider!

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  • Bob

    Looks like I’ll be sticking with my OG Droid then.

  • T.O.

    How’s the mobile hotspot does it have the same problem as the thunderbolt and disconnect while using it

  • tomNasty

    That screen is crap….pass

  • Sad no Fm Radio! Maybe Spirit FM Radio (root) will work. 

  • Anonymous

    I’m here from 2014 with a very important message:  Don’t wait.  I’ve got my Motorola Droid Vendetta running Android 6.0.1 (aka KitKat).  Rooted of course.  (BTW the partnership between Googlerola and Hershey’s has been a delicious pairing.)  I can tell you that in the end all of the waiting meant nothing.  The next phone after the next phone will always be better than your current phone.  They will always be released overpriced and buggy.  Manufacturers will always put in the bare minimum to beat their last model but spin it like you’re getting an all new phone.  The Vigor and Prime came and went and many an android fan felt cheated.  Because you just can’t please every Android fan all the time.  Period.  (Although the Nexus Shockwave was a neat phone.)  But hey, you could be an iPhoney fan.  The 8th installment of *THAT* phone was just released and yup, it’s still on a 3G network.  P.S. It’s extremely hot and dirty in 2014.  Get that “save the environment” stuff going again, okay?

  • Kellex, can we see a side by side with the Bionic and GSII in very bright sunlight? Supposedly PenTile is easier to view in bright sunlight versus SAMOLED+ so I’d like to see them next to each other outdoors on a bright, sunny day.

  • Anonymous

    I’m confused and maybe someone can clarify.  Kellex’s review says it has the Pentile display but Engadget says qHD:

    “Up front is what looks to be the same 4.3-inch qHD display that wowed us on the X2, and it’s still impressive here. Very impressive. It doesn’t quite offer the eye-popping saturation of Samsung’s Super AMOLED Plus displays, but that’s not to say it’s lacking in contrast, brightness or, indeed, resolution. Viewing angles are as close to 180 degrees as you need, and ultimately this is a screen that has the pixel count and the picture quality to stand up with the best of them.”

    Are they the same?

    • Billyrouth2000

      The Bionic has a pentile qhd screen it is the same as the dx2 which did not wow anybody. Its not as bad as some mmake it out to be but its still pretty bad in some areas and looks really good in other areas.

      • Actually the review of the display on Engadget was very favorable, they mention the colors aren’t as saturated and don’t pop like on SAMOLED+ but they didn’t mention any of the negatives that are prevalent in the reviews and (more so) comments on this site.

    • Anonymous

      qHD is a resolution, and PenTile is the technology behind the way the screen renders pixels.

  • Anonymous

    tinyurl.com/2df4ccp

  • Anonymous

    Please test the battery life. And also that lint trap. I’ve got tons of lint in my OG Droid due to those edge creases. Would hate to see lint under the qHD screen… Lastly, any quick way to remove the bloatware, or is rooting a must to get rid of it. Everything else looks good. Great job as always DL!

    • Billyrouth2000

      If you want to get rid of the bloatware then yes root is required

  • Anonymous

    nice phone, being me being 4 months from upgrade elegibility effectively puts this phone as forever a non-option for me. It makes sense really… The way android devices come out on verizon, if you do not purchase a new device within 2 months of release you might as well wait until its successor or whatever is around the corner that has better build/specs. So I guess if we are lucky I would(in my dreams) get the galaxy note/nexus prime/bionic 2. This pos thunderbolt will hold me over until then.

    Next rumor please!!

  • Anonymous

    I understand that during the redesign it was probably too much to ask to upgrade the screen, but that doesn’t mean I have to like it.  So much hope for this phone that has seemingly jumped into the top spot on the leaderboard, only to be dethroned in less than a month.  At least on Verizon, while ignoring iFails.  Love my DroidX most the time and Motorola too, but Samsung’s visuals are hard to beat right now anywhere including the phone world.  That GII screen is just plain sexy.

    • Anonymous

      thats true, but I would’nt even buy the nexus prime unless it had at least a qhd screen. Samsung is lagging is screen resolution hard core here lately(gs2 for example.)

      • Anonymous

        I would have to disagree with Samsung lagging in anything to do with screens lately.  Their phones and to a lesser extent, their TVs are simply some of the best.  The contrast on the Galaxy2 is really only outdone by the iFail and even then I’d stick with the Samsung.  Hell even the original galaxy looks better than the X or X2 in my humble opinion.

        • Anonymous

          man I agree with you on the overall display quality on sammy’s devices, SAMOLED is awesome!! And yes I have a pn64d8000 so I know what you’re talking about their plasmas are best in the industry. I was just saying that compared to other OEMs sammy’s displays are still the same ole’ 480×800 from a year ago – HTC, MOTO have moved up to QHD resolution. The GS2 will be a fantastic device, but I was literally shocked when I read the same resolution as last years GS phones. I’m still hoping sammy gives big red the galaxy note, but that will likely never happen…

          • Anonymous

            I hear ya.  I guess, in my opinion, if they can do more with less resolution then I say go for it.  I’m a bit disappointed the GS2 won’t be coming to Verizon if the rumors are true, but my contract isn’t up till March so it doesn’t matter too much in the long run for me personally.  I’ve enjoyed my DroidX but unless things change I just don’t see me sticking with a Moto phone again.  I’ll also agree the Note looks pretty cool as a fun and somewhat functional device to play with.

  • I’m very interested to know just how long the battery life is … I have a Sammy Charge and the battery is not that great.  I’d like to move to another LTE device that has better battery life. Let us know that you find Kelex! Thanks.

  • Does is have the fabled FM tuner or not? – just curious.

  • Have you done a Vellamo benchmark yet?  I was kinda shocked when I tested the thunderbolt, X2, and the Incredible 2 in store that the X2 was the slowest and the Inc. 2 was fastest.  Is moto blur really that much bloat on a phone?

  • I know this may be a silly question since it’s motorola but is the Bionic bootloader locked? Since kellex has it in his hands he should be able to tell us right? If anyone else who has it in there hands could they let me know =]

    • Anonymous

      its locked down so hard, harry houdini couldn’t have a whore’s chance in church of ever breaking it out of jail!!

    • Billyrouth2000

      I do believe it is locked down but i believe it has allready been rooted.

  • Kevin

    Is that power button on the left? Why!?

    • Fkfh

      Because it’s sucks phone~

  • Anonymous

    Droid Bionic is irrelevant and will be assimilated…we are Borg…

  • Anonymous

    Droid Bionic is irrelevant and will be assimilated…we are Borg…

  • Lakerzz

    If the pentile screen is REALLY that much of a battery saver, then this is my device. I work out in the field all day without a chance to charge.

  • Anonymous

    You’re not sure what to say … disappointment maybe?
    9 months and it didn’t even raise my heart rate during the video. That’s how i know it’s not for me at least.

    I’m praying that android releases a phone that is just badass and innovative (roll eyes), and that android developers get some sense of design smacked into their heads for their UI or else I’m going to have to jump ship.

    • Anonymous

      me too, but verizon will get it a whole year later than everybody else as usual so it will be doubly outdated by the time we are all excited over +insert device name here+

  • Anonymous

    Whether you buy it or not, the fact that this is a 4G LTE + Dual-Core on Verizon’s network = Sickest smartphone to date. & don’t give me that SGS2 crap, cause I already said the 2 things that make this phone buyable on first sight anyways. Also waiting for Prime and Vigor? Good for you, but some people just want something to literally control all machines, pun intended. O_________o

  • Should I unroot the Droid before buying the Bionic??

  • Dylan Hageman

    I just ordered this phone on the phone! haha

  • Anonymous

    I had the chance to try it out at the Verizon Store today after asking if they had a unit to “play with”. I was extremely impressed and I’m picky when it comes to phones. The iPhone (yes, hiss at me I deserve it) just doesn’t work for me anymore. I’m too much of a phone fanatic.

    After having a major scare where I accidentally dropped the Bionic on the floor (thank god for the carpeting like floor), and the ensuing joke by the employees that I’ve bought it now, I played with it for about 5 minutes. Decided that I really liked how they improved Blur on it and it’s very useful/functional now compared to when I used test units before.

    Plus the large screen made it perfect in my hand compared to the cramped iPhone, especially in texting. So I’ve decided tomorrow I’m getting it at retail and if all goes well after week 1 of heavily testing the Bionic, I will sell the iPhone and not miss it =)

    The only reason I even went to iPhone was because I had an OG Droid that was struggling even after cleaning it up on apps and unfortunately in February there wasn’t any Android phones I wanted. I want the Bionic now

    • Anonymous

      I am just wondering if the Bionic is just a big version of the D3 w/ LTE and a updated version of Blur???  I would imagine it’s snappier with double the Memoery and 1Ghz of proc. power  But all in all it’s a bigger version of the D3??  Your thoughts 🙂 

      • Anonymous

        It can seem like a big version of the D3 but the specs are much more powerful than the D3 from what I’ve read. The only downside is no physical keyboard.

        I love physical keyboards but with a 4.3″ screen, and the fact I was forced to adjust to go from no HW keyboard to touch only on the iPhone, it makes up for missing physical keys. I didn’t get a lot of hands on time with the D3 though, so I can’t compare it as well

        • Anonymous

          Besides the LTE and more RAM I think everything else is the same.  So more powerful than the D3, but not hugely so.

          • Anonymous

            Both devices have pros and cons. I can’t sway your decision one way or the other. My opinion is I really liked the Bionic

  • Anonymous

    Glad to see you’re happy with it. I’m still not sold on it, especially not at the expense of the Galaxy S2 (if the rumor is true) but if you have LTE this is definitely the best phone that can use it.

    • Anonymous

      I would consider it the bigger, faster, more up-to-date brother of the Droid X. I mean look at it. It looks like MOTO basically took the X2 and upgraded the internals. Otherwise the camera is the same, and the display is the same. Like Ive said before, all the bionic is(is) a turbo-charged droid X!!

  • Ad3pt

    dang dude pulled out like 3 verizon android phones… hook a brotha up my og droid touch sensitivity is shot and since i dont have an upgrade for a while im stuck on an ally 🙁 send me one of those (x, d3, tbolt) im dying over here

  • Ad3pt

    dang dude pulled out like 3 verizon android phones… hook a brotha up my og droid touch sensitivity is shot and since i dont have an upgrade for a while im stuck on an ally 🙁 send me one of those (x, d3, tbolt) im dying over here

  • Used my early upgrade and will have 4g LTE and dual core goodness in my hands Friday! Can’t wait!  If you order online with Big Red it’s only $249 not $299.  I’m going to send my X in and use that $100 gift card for my brothers upgrade.

    • dude

      do they take smartphones for that 100 dollar trade it thing? i thought it said just basic phones

    • Anonymous

      100 gift card ONLY applies to folks with a dumbzor phone upgrading to a smart phone so you would be better off pawing you DX to gazelle/ebay for bionic funding

  • Anonymous

    tinyurl.com/2df4ccp

  • yeah i see it on the site also whats even more mind blowing is the charge costs the same for me as the bionic would.

  • Sparking22

    just ordered my BIONIC!

  • Eswom

    Just upgraded from OG Droid to Bionic on Verizon’s Site.  The phone cost me 249.99

    • droidlvr

      the phone is available on their site?

      • eswom

        Yes and I got it for $50 less than I thought I would!

  • Dominick

    After seeing the pentile screen (HIDEOUS) I decided not to get it, but one thing I AM curious about is if/how its technology can handle Facebook games like Pet Society, if it can at all. If you could check out how that works or doesn’t I’d be interested to know. Thank you.

    • droidlvr

      just leave troll

      • Dominick

         I’ve been waiting 9 months for this phone. I have a right to state my opinion.. which wasn’t JUST mine but another person who walked in around the time I did to the store and noticed the same things I did.

      • hes not a troll hes stating his opinion and i also went to a store today and looked at it i can definatley see what people are talking about with the screen. that’s really the only reason i went to see it.  locked boot-loader and blur isn’t for me.  but i could really see problems with the screen.  would it bother me in everyday use i dont know. but definatley a problem with smaller text. and my g2x screen definatley is much clearer and sharper.
        since i have the g2x and no lte here its easier for me to wait.  if i only had my droid though i still think id pass on this phone.  due to locked bootloader,(rumors are root methoud is patched-but im sure there will be another way), pentile was not impressive, blur(or not blur what ever the name isnt), the ddr2 that was spoken as such an advantage shows nothing of the sort in any benchmarks, 

        But i am sure many will be very happy with the bionic.  its not a bad phone at all, its just not for some of us. 
        not sure why those that like it get so angry with those that dont.

        • whoops forgot…..dont ever buy an lg phone unless you want problems ,lies, phones sold with known issues and lies and coverups and silence to hide them. lack of updates or communication at all. 

          I love my moto droid and hope moto puts out something great ..hey google how about it.

          • Anonymous

            the same goes for HTC phones… damn thunderbolt!!

  • Glasgow126

    The specs on verizons site don’t match up to what is being reported. It says there is 32gb of internal memory and only a 2gb sd. Here’s the link. Lots of other differences also. https://m.verizonwireless.com/#/Shop/Details/Smartphones_-_4G_LTE/2350

    • those specs are wrong in many cases. not sure what is up with them but they are totally wrong maybe earlier thoughts on what the bionic would be.  just wish the screen mentioned was correct 🙂

  • Anonymous

    Ewwww full of bloatware…

  • chefr

    I bought a Droid X from Verizon last year, what will my bionic options be?

  • 93techxx

    Sep.8!!!

  • Shane Spencer

    Now is a terrible time to be a poor college student. 

  • Balls

    locked bootloader

  • i got my droid bionic a few hours ago and it is a very solid phone. loving it already!

  • Jac White

    Honestly…..I like it better than expected……but Verizon has given me no real reason to upgrade.   I live in Virginia (Richmond) and have an OG droid.   I also have an acer iconia tab that I can tether to that droid.   Until they decide to open up 4g in this area I will be just fine with what I have………..When they do release 4g here I will buy a new phone.   I would like to say I would switch carriers but honestly as fed up as I am with Verizon the service on Sprint and ATT suck around here. 

  • Anonymous

    Well, watched the vid. Nothing to see here, move along.

    • Anonymous

      Yeah, seriously. How about all of the hate for the DX2 yet he won’t even consider the screen an issue in this case? Cut me a break.

  • Thehitman004

    So will the Bionic bundle at Costco be available on release day?

    • Anonymous

      Yes.

    • Dritnul

      I asked my local Costco and they said they will not receive it for another 3-4 weeks. you may want to call your local one.

  • Anonymous

    If other companies didn’t make some really nice displays, you wouldn’t notice the Motorola Bionic screen sucked. Then again it wouldn’t matter what other companies do, because the Pentile screen on the Bionic would still suck.

  • Anonymous

    PENTIILLLLEEE??

    /me vomits

  • Lumpysherman

    I think the pentile screen alone is enough to make me not want it. Waiting to see the Vigor or the Prime. Patiently waiting with my tank, OGD, indestructible little bugger.

    • droidlvr

      you guys just dont get it. unless u have your face pressed up against the screen you can’t tell. The battery life is worth the very minor difference.

      • Anonymous

        Or playing a game, scrolling through a website, opening/selecting an app, etc.

      • digsoreos

        Or taking and viewing pictures. The color rendering on the DX2 looks like it’s using a box of 16 colored crayons instead of 16 million colors.

      • Dominick

        If half blind, maybe, but I beg to differ, that’s just not true. You can see it without your face up against the screen, you can just see it much more clearly if you’re up close. Turn on a live wallpaper, look at the notification screen, scroll the screens up and down or around. it has a very nervous odd movement to them.. you can clearly see the lines, the choppy non smooth rendering, the dull color/blacks/whites, and just overall lack of quality. I put my Droid X next to it and without saying anything the guy next to me said mines much better, brighter, sharper than the Droid Bionic, as well as the other phones.. Droid 3 and Droid X2.

        • droidlvr

          i haven’t seen it yet so maybe your right.

  • Anonymous

    I went to my local VZ store today and they were saying that they hadn’t gotten the Bionic shipment yet.  So it won’t be released until the weekend.  I’m still running my OG until I get my hands on that Nexus or Droid Prime.  Whatever it will be.

  • Jon

    The guys over at This Is My Next, have already reported that the battery life is only so so. 

    • Anonymous

      That is to be expected I mean the supposed battery tests were with the phone sitting around pretty much all day. Nothing special here.

      • digsoreos

        My DX2 sits around all day at work and the battery goes from 100% at 8AM to 45% by noon.

    • LionStone

      I wanna see what the battery is like after tethering on 4G for a couple hours…

  • Anonymous

    What the crap is with no one having a dedicated camera button anymore!!

    • LionStone

      Because its not necessary…its a waste of space on the phone.

  • Destin246

    yall hate for no reason lol bionic all the way!

  • Mr.Joe

    Not liking the video at all.  WAY to negative. 

  • Anonymous

    Sooo, this is what the Droid X2 should have been…

  • Azilla

    looks like a droid2 minus the keyboard from the front view

  • Anonymous

    So does anybody know if this phone will be out at best buy??  My contract is up from two years ago with the good ol OG Droid.. im just wondering is it better getting this at bestbuy or at Verizon?? 

  • ThatGuy

    I cannot wait until I get to open my new phone tomorrow!

  • Anonymous

    4.3″ screen! Holy Mother of Monkeys, we might all just as well use tablets as our cell phones. And these phones are only getting bigger.You will never see a high-end 3.7″ screen cell phone again, yet you can bet the monkey farm there is still a demand for it

  • Kangateq

    Blur us so awful. I will never buy another moto phone again simply because of blur. I Donny want to Jane to root and load a custom ROM to be happy with my phone. With HTC, I love the way it looks even with sense.

    • Str8RippinEm

      just throw a launcher on there…and you said “even with sense”..so you think sense sucks also.

  • Tpaynk23

    Love my Bionic , running smoothly so far and put my rooted D Inc. 2 running MIUI Redarkened back in its box. however I could do without blur but threw on ADW EX and some minimalistic widgets…………. ALL GOOD 

  • Josue

    i got called in this morning to get mine in advance….i was surprised the vzw rep called. it was 299 for upgrade plus another 50 bucks for the otterbox case…and for you guys asking whether it has a notification LED, yes it does on the upper right corner 

  • droidlvr

    Kellex, can we see this beast with the accessories?

  • Flip74k

    Nice phone. But really reminds me of my x2. So ill hold off on my upgrade. Gonna let it sit there for a while even this u want a dual core 4g device

    • Flip74k

      Even tho I want * dam spell check lol

  • Hey where did you get that extended battery for the Tbolt?

  • Str8RippinEm

    Is this the first phone to offer webtop?

    • Anonymous

      By the way a little birdy told me that the webtop is only $200. Literally she was a bird, a babe, a hotty Verizon manager.

      • Str8RippinEm

        lol good $hit

      • Teevo0108

        She was wrong. I have a friend that works there its 299 trust me.

        • Anonymous

          I’m pretty sure there is a $100 mail-in rebate making it $200.

  • Anonymous
  • droidlvr

    This will be a solid device for the next 6-12 months at least.

    • Str8RippinEm

      Agreed

  • Anonymous

    Kellex, you have nice hands. Just saying.

  • Ray

    looks really nice i dont think i can wait 2 months for my upgrade

  • droidlvr

    It’s finally here, thanks for all the updates Kellex. You guys slamming this device will miss out on a great phone.

  • droidlvr

    It’s finally here, thanks for all the updates Kellex. You guys slamming this device will miss out on a great phone.

  • droidlvr

    It’s finally here, thanks for all the updates Kellex. You guys slamming this device will miss out on a great phone.

  • 11knives

    The the highpoint of this video was seeing the Galaxy S2

  • OG

    i want to see a comparison between the bionic and the galaxy s 2

  • Have you noticed the phone getting excessively hot when over LTE?

  • Str8RippinEm

    Got to play around with it in the store earlier…this thing is the REAL DEAL…I F’ing love it and I don’t get impressed that easily…As for as better phones coming out, there is always something better right around the corner but my OG droid literally just shat the bed 2 days ago and no better timing to get the Bionic…If you have the patience and a solid phone, you should wait, there are some sick phones coming out…But if you need a phone or have no more patience, this thing will most likely exceed your expectations…Its the best looking and performing phone out for verizon…If something revolutionary comes out, then ebay and craigslist will be used, but until then…Enjoy your Bionics people, I know I will

    • Anonymous

      +100……..one of the most reasonable & straight forward comments in this post, feel the exact same way (get 1 if u need it/its a solid device OR chill for a bit & see whats dropping soon if u have 1 of the more solid vzw devices….cheers 2 u dude

      • Str8RippinEm

        thanks bro

    • Q

      Agreed.. tried the phone out at the big VZW Corporate store today in San Diego and the device is awesome.  

      Also, I was suprised at how well the lapdock worked.  A lot of the reviews that Ive seen for it say it doesnt work good, but it felt like using a laptop to me… 

      • Str8RippinEm

        thats good to know, I was really curious about the lapdock, or is it webtop? Idk but it’s a brilliant idea…is this the first phone to offer something like this?

        • Anonymous

          Nope, the Atrix was.

          • Str8RippinEm

            Nice, was it successful as far as functionality?

          • Anonymous

            Never used it, so I wouldn’t know.

  • Lfkiter

    So the same screen as the x2, but it’s better because it’s on the Bionic?? looks the same to me.

  • Wier F

    I might get this phone or I might wait longer. My OG droid is slow, but manageable. 

  • Alec Bush

    At this point it doesn’t matter. I was ready to get rid of my OG Droid, which until a while ago was the fastest Android phone I have ever seen. (Running with Bugless Beast) But lately it has had the worst battery life ever (Barely an 8 hour day at work) Running slow (Could be my fault) No 4g, and the hardware itself is finally crapping out (I don’t use a case or screen protector, so given the age, I got plenty of use out of it)

    The OG Droid was awesome, and I’m definitely putting it on a shelf somewhere during it’s retirement, but it’s time for an upgrade. I could wait for the Prime or whatever, but by that time everyone will be saying wait for the next thing, so I figure I’ll go with this, and if something better comes up in the next few months I’ll sell it on ebay for roughly what I paid and get the next thing.

    But this thing is (or will be) fast after root + Bloat + blur removal, and I’m sure someone will come out with a custom ROM and Overclocking for it, so no matter how you look at it, it is a nice phone. Sure I have reservations about the screen, but what do I really care if I can see it, it’s 4 inches. If I want HD quality I’ll use a damn HD TV and a computer that can render HD 1080p .MKV files. If it gets me better battery life, I’m happy.

  • GotSka81

    I think it’s worth noting that it looks like that thunderbolt has an extended battery…so it may be about the same size as the standard thunderbolt and weight may not be as bad.  Can I get confirmation, kellex?

  • Stelv81

    So how much available memory does it have in terms of ram? What does it tell you in elixir or a system info app for the total available memory?

  • Chip Chiperson

    Droid x since launch day now on CM7 – GB kernel.  This STILL is not good enough to upgrade. I will pass, that screen looks like its got a screen door covering it or somthing, tss tss 

  • BigRed4X15

    Always knocking the Charge, the Charge (and other Samsung devices with the Super AMOLED+ display) still has the best screen of any android device and its unlocked for easy access. I changed the kernel to a 1.4GHz voodoo kernel, and my experience with the phone couldn’t be better. Is the Charge as fast as the Bionic or have as much RAM as the Bionic…no but that doesn’t make it a bad phone. Sorry getting all emotional and stuff

    • Anonymous

      Blindingly oversaturated doesn’t make it the best screen… just the most eye seeringly “popping”

      Unlocked??  It better be, because Samsung sure as hell doesn’t support their phones.  Of course, unlocking doesn’t help the GPS that never locks, and can’t change the cheap ass plastic it is wrapped in.

  • Anonymous

    Yawn

    • Pennywise

      Yawn, huh? Don’t care about technology? What do you need your phone to do that this one can’t?

      • Anonymous

        Not have butt loads of bloatware, no blur, unlockable bootloader. I will wait for the Prime or something else.I have tried this new Blur via Droid 3, and I do not like it at all. I have been using my custom DX for so long now, going back to stock blur boils my blood! That is why, YAWN!

        • Pennywise

          huh… as an imminent BIONIC owner who has been interested (waiting) since the first announcement 9 months ago, stay strong with your wait for an unlocked superphone on Verizon!

          (If Verizon allows another unlocked superphone on their network, which they probably won’t do for a long long time since they want to charge for tethering, hotspot etc and have historically shown great concern for network security, then I imagine such a phone would also mark the day where carriers are permitted to retroactively unlock their 2011/2012 superphones)

          Good luck!!  BIONIC here I come 😀

          • Anonymous

            Uum the charge, revolution and tb are all unlocked. It is how moto locks down their phones that makes them so hard to root and the bootloader is a mess.

          • Teevo0108

            Why is everyone. Blaming moto for the bootloaders its clearly Verizon doing. I don’t see the thunderbolt unlocked and its an htc phone. Moto is more likely. Forced to do this. Why? Because Verizon sells them and if moto don’t, hey, that’s their bad.

          • Anonymous

            I am not hating the phone so much as the OS. If this thing ran pure Google I would have one in the mail. As it is, I will wait and see if some dev’s cook up some killer roms. IF that happens maybe I would buy Bionic. But I do have the patience to keep waiting because D3 was a let down and Bionic is basically the same thing with a bit more ram.

            I wish you luck and hope you love it!

  • Anonymous

    Bionic? Motorola Nexus Prime spotted in the wild already….

    http://i.imgur.com/UkyYk.jpg

    /troll

  • Pennywise

    Screen looks pretty good in that video.

  • Anonymous

    Just love how he starts whipping out superphones at random.   Does anyone know if the memory is 16gb internal + 16gb sd = 32gb total?  

    • Anonymous

      yes it is

  • AstralWeeks

    I would like a demo of an actual call being made. On my og droid the screen went black the second I hit call and it was very hard to come back on. Thanks.

    • fartbubbler

      wait- it makes phone calls too?

  • Pennywise

    WOOOOOOOOOT!!! Looks freakin awesome! Can’t wait to get mine!!

  • droidxer

    Nexus/Droid Prime, whatever it turns out to be will be my next phone…..if this exact phone would have been released at around the same time as the atrix I would have it.

  • Anonymous

    Definitely gonna pass on this one.  Nothing on it stands out to me.  I will be just fine holding on to my Droid X until something worth $300 comes out.  And what do you need such fast processors and RAM for? My phone runs just fine with what it has, it never lags. The only thing I would like is 4G.

    • Pennywise

      Exactly! 4G!! And the dual core omap will be damn fast enough for a good damn long time… Question is, what are phones going to offer in the future that the BIONIC isn’t offering NOW?!

      • Anonymous

        not locked down, no pentile screen.

        • Pennywise

          Screen is lookin’ great to me! And I’m a videophile (and an audiophile; MP3’s are not allowed on my home stereo ; )

          The locked-down bit is tough to ‘counter’ except that IF an unlocked phone is allowed on Verizon (by Verizon) than I would expect said day would also be the day where ‘bootloaders are retroactively unlocked on 2011 phones’ (IF the carrier allows it).

          That said, I have a rooted OG and have tried every rom that I know of. The BIONIC looks like I won’t have to mess with it… looks like it is going to do everything I want, and more; looks like it won’t be a big issue.

          Lastly, this sucker’s gonna get the shit rooted out of it by the droid devs.

          • Anonymous

            charge, revolution, thunderbolt ring a bell? It doesn’t need to be unlocked out of the box, it is the fact moto encrypts their bootloaders that is what people are complaining about. Better root it quick since moto patched the exploit currently used that will be out in an ota probably shortly.

        • Pennywise

          Screen is lookin’ great to me! And I’m a videophile (and an audiophile; MP3’s are not allowed on my home stereo ; )

          The locked-down bit is tough to ‘counter’ except that IF an unlocked phone is allowed on Verizon (by Verizon) than I would expect said day would also be the day where ‘bootloaders are retroactively unlocked on 2011 phones’ (IF the carrier allows it).

          That said, I have a rooted OG and have tried every rom that I know of. The BIONIC looks like I won’t have to mess with it… looks like it is going to do everything I want, and more; looks like it won’t be a big issue.

          Lastly, this sucker’s gonna get the shit rooted out of it by the droid devs.

  • Dream

    Yea ill wait for the Prime, im To spoil with Super AMOLED to downgrade 

  • Other than the 4g and FFC, my X rooted, bloat removed and using go launcher seems about the same. I just saved myself over $300.

    • Str8RippinEm

      Do you realize when you say things like that, you are speaking to very small group of people. What about the people who are ready for an upgrade from a OG droid, Eris, Inc, Droid 2 ect…And have been waiting for this phone for almost a year? This is a very worthy upgrade…The only positive I could say for you is you have the luxury of waiting to see what comes out in the near future, I along with many others, Don’t…Enjoy your 300 bucks bucko, no one cares

    • hugeMeatstick

      I agree. New blur not worth. $300.

  • Cpalo2602

    does it have a notifaction LED i know the paper work said it did before but havent seen it ?

    • fartbubbler

      other review videos have shown this – yes it has the LED notification.  It’s to the right of the speaker on the front/top/middle.

    • Anonymous

      Only Samsung seems to think that an LED notification light is an unnecessary thing.

  • Jasonjw12

    If you have time would you mind testing Bluetooth pairing and reconnecting. I’ve had problems with pretty much every Moto Droid device reconnecting to various Bluetooth devices. It pairs fine but is hit and miss when it comes to reconnecting. In particular, the Blackberry Bluetooth Music Gateway.

    Thanks

  • Alright so should i get this phone tomorrow or should i switch carriers to get the galaxy s 2 or just wait for another verizon phone?

    • Anonymous

      That is something you need to answer since it is for you.

  • M

    Yawn……..Crickets Chirping……….. Moto….Fail 

    The review was cool just dogging the Phone itself if you like then that’s all that counts,

    • Anonymous

      Thanks for adding your VERY insightful comments… the android community is forever indebted to you. 

  • Anonymous

    Let me just say about the bezel, that reminds me of the OG Droid, which in my opinion was one of the best design features of that phone.  Reason is because it is raised. I have dropped my OG Droid several times face first on to concrete and the bezel was all that got scratched and saved my screen’s life.  I am VERY happy that they chose to continue that design with this phone.

  • fartbubbler

    Kellen, is there a setting to disable the shutter sound on the camera?

  • Anonymous

    is it NFC enabled? that’s the big selling point for me. 

  • Anonymous

    Man hold it a little closer and obviously you would see the pixels. Who holds it that close to their face? People put too much on the supposed god awful pentile especially you kellex.

  • Scea67

    About 7 months to late for my liking! If this came out at least back in April or May I probably would have bought one but no chance now as far superior phones are just around the corner, you would have to be stupid to guy this phone now, especially with its $300 price tag, after all the waiting everyone was forced to do from there failed promises, you think they could have given people a break had priced it better than they did! The phone is yesterdays technology before it even comes out. The atrix has been out for months with similar specs!!

    • Anonymous

      Funny, the GSII is only a month younger, and yet somehow people are still clamoring (or in VZW case mourning it).  Somehow in that case it isn’t “too long”.  Most people forget, the design that was released back in January was scrapped.  This is essentially the rumored “Targa” which was rumored at the time for a later in the year release.  So really, other than keeping the name, they are right where they expected to be, except they didn’t release a dud 4G phone like HTC (Thunderbolt), Samsung (Charge) and LG (Revolution) did.

      If they had released the Bionic back then everybody would have crucified them saying they should have waited to get it right… well, now they did.  There was one failed promise… the initial release.  Everything else was simply guessing and rumors, not a series of changed dates.  This isn’t HTC with their, “We will update it, We Won’t Update it, We hear you and now we will update… really” game.

      And there are alway far superior phones, “just around the corner” and when that one gets here… guess what… something else will be just around the next corner.

  • Anonymous

    … i’m also interested in a battery test with LTE  switched off, this could be a 3G only monsterdroid

  • I’m getting the Bionic for one reason, it’s verizon’s first dual-core 4G phone. Know why I’m getting it? Because I’m still rocking the D1 and it has the most support. Since this is the FIRST phone of its kind on the VZW line…I’m sure that devs will target it more than anything else. Tha’ts my .02

    • Anonymous

      the d1 also wasnt locked down.

  • YouMad

    repost… in response to OG Droid was vanilla… in a sense yes but… it had bloatware just not MotoBlur cuz it hadnt been developed yet, the verizon-ware was there and the N1 saw updates months before it… some vanilla android phone it was… Luv my OG droid no disrespect but dont act like it was updated in a timely fashion or had no bloatware ect…Verizon passed on the N1 for the incredible and will pry have contol over the prime because its even rebranding the name according to most rumors… droid prime not nexus prime…. you see what im tryin to say?

    • Anonymous

      1.  The original shipped with no bloat, that was added in the 2.01 and 2.1 updates.

      2.  Blur HAD been developed and already released (or at least announced) on the CLIQ for T-Mobile.

      and even when you consider that there were a few apps added, it was still the unmitigated OS, so yes, the OS was VANILLA.  

      But you do bring a good point, just because a phone may be vanilla, does not guarantee that it will get timely updates.  Only when you have a Nexus phone can you feel fairly safe in that regard… but if it is Samsung, then the tradeoffs between quick updates, and a crappy built phone makes the decision so much harder.

  • Anonymous

    Anxious to see what the battery life is like.

  • jjl207

    If this had been released in June or July, I probably would have gotten one.  I’ve had an upgrade available since July 6th.  Now it looks like I’ll get a VIgor, or preferably a Nexus Prime.  Too bad, loved my OG Droid and Droid X.

  • Anonymous

    Is there any evidence of homescreen refresh issues when coming back from apps?

    • tha mexican

      no they fixed that bug

    • Anonymous

      Definitely seems to be fixed.

  • MOTOX

    Im going for my vigor…want my beats and htc so far has it “ok” with me…this phone looks good but no data over voice on 3g…and a couple other things kill it. Though i am sort of getting sick of sense…maybe ill go this or the prime..

    • Anonymous

      There is no data over voice on 3g for ANY VZW phone.  Even if the phone supports it, VZW’s network doesn’t… and what “other things”?  What battery life?  Better than anything HTC had done.  Build quality, better than anything Samsung has put out.  And while Samsung and HTC have been bloating up their skins, The Skin formerly known as Blur has slimmed down and become as close to stock as you get with any skin.

      • He is talking about the Thunderbolt with SVDO

        • Anonymous

          Yes, I know the Thunderbolt has the SVDO support.  But VZW doesn’t have support for it everywhere, nor do they seem interested in it since it seems to be so doggone slow where they do have it that they do not even list it as a possible feature.  So is that really then worth claiming it to be the reason to not get this (or any) phone?  Unless (or until) VZW chooses to fix the problems with SVDO, then this is a moot point.

      • Anonymous

        thunderbolt does voice over data on 3g.

        • Anonymous

          I know it is supposed to (in theory), but either SVDO is not rolled out in my area, or it just plain doesn’t work (which wouldn’t be all that surprising since even the reviews of SVDO on VZW has been wrought with terribly slow speeds)

          • Telephoneteck

            I can talk and surf at the same time on my TB! Although I would trade it for a Bionic any day..

          • Anonymous

            II cam do OT with the 4g, but not when I a I’m 3g mode.

          • Anonymous

            II cam do OT with the 4g, but not when I a I’m 3g mode.

  • Lakerzfan80

    my lil bro just confirmed the Costco deal with the goodies valued at $160 and the phone for $279!..I am adding a line just to get it plus if I like the prime or vigor return policy is 90 days you can’t beat that …

  • Splicer78

    Pas. Already reported that root exploit closed and will probably affect all but first run of phones. So I will paitently wait for something more friendly

    • Anonymous

      Does anyone really doubt it will be long before another work-around is exploited to gain root?

      • Anonymous

        Most likely it will be awhile. look it took almost a month before the d3 got root and now they have to find some other way it will take awhile.

        • Anonymous

          Well mine was rooted within the first hour of owning the phone.

  • I’m so curious as to how apple has such an amazing screen/battery life ratio and moto has to reduce itself to this display type…

    it’s sad cause sammy stepped their game display game up as well

  • Anonymous

    That’s a sexy Bitch!

  • I’ve been playing with all day…it is well worth the wait. 

    • Anonymous

      careful, I hear you can go blind from that….

      • Whcoleman37

        LOL!!!

  • Anonymous

    bottom line….who is going to get it?  who is going to wait.  my guess is motorola and verizon would have sold a ton more if it came out back in may.  fail is my gut feeling.

    • David Evans

      Getting it, after my OG Droid got ran over multiple times 2 weeks ago and having it still work, for the most part, I will stand by Motorola from now on.

      • Anonymous

        My og fell off the top of my car at 60, and it still works, the outside is scratched a little.

    • Anonymous

      If it came out in may I would have got one right away. Now I will wait and see because of the whole root issue that seems to be patched and how anti dev community moto is. Atleast with samsung and htc they don’t lock their phones down so much.

    • Anonymous

      If it came out in May, it probably would have been a dud like the Charge, Thunderbolt and Revolution.  They didn’t pull this phone back because they wanted to, they knew there was a problem and couldn’t risk making this years “flagship” device to be a big waste of time and money that the the others.  Instead they slimmed it down, ditched the underwhelming Tegra2 processors, added more memory and made the phone the best phone released this year.

      • Anonymous

        The charge a dud? How so is that? They ditched the tegra 2 because it can’t be locked down like omap can.

        • Anonymous

          In fairness, it isn’t just the Charge, so far, it seems all the 4G phones have been… lacking.  Certainly none of them are setting the world on fire… it is only a question of what tradeoff you want to make.  

          You can buy the LG if you want cheap… just plain cheap, and have that 2 year reminder that you get what you pay for, you can have the Thunderbolt which has fabulous build quality but a battery that can’t get you through to lunch, or you can pour the money at the Charge, and get the cheapest plastic phone with GPS issues, but what some consider the best screen, and “better than Thunderbolt” battery life.

        • Anonymous

          In fairness, it isn’t just the Charge, so far, it seems all the 4G phones have been… lacking.  Certainly none of them are setting the world on fire… it is only a question of what tradeoff you want to make.  

          You can buy the LG if you want cheap… just plain cheap, and have that 2 year reminder that you get what you pay for, you can have the Thunderbolt which has fabulous build quality but a battery that can’t get you through to lunch, or you can pour the money at the Charge, and get the cheapest plastic phone with GPS issues, but what some consider the best screen, and “better than Thunderbolt” battery life.

    • Matthew Galyon

      OG Droid owner, I’ll wait…

  • Jason Purp

    I’m thinking of buying the Bionic at full retail price. I need a new phone already and honestly will find it hard to wait for the Prime. Besides, I kind of like Motoblur now. I just need to go into a VZW store to check out the problems with the screen. I still don’t know what people are talking about.

    • Anonymous

      thats what i said, my friend has a droid x2 with pentile and unless you like holding your phone up to your face about 3 inches away its really not that noticable.  I can say its brighter and a little better to look at outside..seems to have a better color look, i compared it to my friends dx2 and she had the brightness to like 20% to my phone which i had it turned up all the way at that! I went as far as getting the same wallpaper and beautiful widget theme. im comparing this to my droid x1. 

  • Anonymous

    I heard the web-top uses Firefox. Is that correct? If so, why not Chrome? Would seemingly be a much better option.

    • Anonymous

      It is Firefox.  Not sure why it’s not chrome…I guess Firefox wanted less money? No idea actually heh.

      • Anonymous

        “I guess Firefox wanted less money?”

        Not sure if joking, or I am misinformed?

    • Mr.Joe

      Remember when Firefox was really popular? Guess it’s not any more.

      • Anonymous

        Yup, remember when Firefox was popular… that was before it went and started sucking up memory and getting as bloated and ugly as TouchWiz.

  • Anonymous

    good luck w/ that….tell them you will cancel the contract and see what happens. 

  • Anonymous

     Is there any way to get this as a replacement for my D3?
    I am returning it tomorrow to get a new one since my volume rocker broke, and it is supposed to ship in a week and a half.

    Could I maybe pay a little for the Bionic instead?

  • YouMad

    4g on verizon with the same specs as a honeycomb tablet? with good battery life? have fun waiting suckers… this phone is legit no matter who tries to diss it… and it will be mine…

    • J Dub

      Waiting is right…for new OS updates. With ICS literally right around the bend and you wanna lock in on last years OS with Blur on top? Pass. Look how long it took the D2 and the DX to get GB.

      • YouMad

        you do realize the Droid Prime (if it comes out, which i think it will one day) with be loaded with verizon bloatware… (also hope sammy decides on SD card support and notification lights ect..) verizon has never released a vanilla phone. wait on waiter… GB is fine and the Bionic is rooted.. gonna be runnin the sandwich soon enough… next…

        • Anonymous

          The OG was released as a vanilla android phone…

          • YouMad

            Yeah right… it had bloatware just not MotoBlur cuz it hadnt been developed yet, the verizon-ware was there and the N1 saw updates months before it… some vanilla android phone it was… Luv my OG droid no disrespect but dont act like it was updated in a timely fashion or had no bloatware ect…

          • Anonymous

            What “bloatware” was on the OG Droid as shipped?  None. And yes, Blur had already been developed and released on the Cliq.  The only correct part is that it took longer to get VZW approval for the updates, but they still came and did not suffer the fate of devices with Blur, TouchWiz or Sense, none of which were released with 1.6 or earlier saw anything CLOSE to timely updates.

          • Matthew Galyon

            He might of been thinking of Amazon MP3; some have considered it “bloatware.” I think there was one other app, but I can’t remember what it was at the moment…

          • Anonymous

            Yeah, I guess revisionist history.  Amazon MP3 was a deal cut by Google to help answer the question of “what is Android going to do to combat iTunes on the iPhone.”

            I actually thought it was a smart move, because rather than trying to create their own music service and not measuring up, they simply cut a deal with Amazon that knew how to do it already.  Nobody complained about it then… now suddenly it is “bloatware”

          • Biblo

            If you can’t remove the app without root and it is in ASOP it is bloatware.

          • Anonymous

            So, by your definition, the Market, GMail, Maps, etc are all Bloatware.  This is the same sort of stupid argument that kept projects like LiMo from ever seeing a successful light of day and why, despite being superior to MAC or Windows in so many ways, that Linux continues to dwell in corners with single digit marketshare.

          • Anonymous

            So, by your definition, the Market, GMail, Maps, etc are all Bloatware.  This is the same sort of stupid argument that kept projects like LiMo from ever seeing a successful light of day and why, despite being superior to MAC or Windows in so many ways, that Linux continues to dwell in corners with single digit marketshare.

          • YouMad

            Yeah right… it had bloatware just not MotoBlur cuz it hadnt been developed yet, the verizon-ware was there and the N1 saw updates months before it… some vanilla android phone it was… Luv my OG droid no disrespect but dont act like it was updated in a timely fashion or had no bloatware ect…

        • Jason Purp

          Why wouldn’t the phone have SD card support? The Charge had it. And I’m sure if the past Nexus phones have had LEDs, the Prime will as well (I don’t know if they did, I’m just saying theoretically). AND P3Droid said that the Prime will most likely be Vanilla.

          However I agree, the Bionic looks very nice. I might get it very soon if the Prime isn’t already out by then.

          • Anonymous

            Actually the Nexus S was quite crippled with no 720p, SD card support and no notification light. For a lot of people, that’s a deal breaker for some reason.

          • Mr.Joe

            Most Samsung android phones lack the notification light.

        • Jeffgilbert1967

          verizon has never released a vanilla phone. Really? OG Droid ring a bell?

          • Mr.Joe

            Xperia Play is also vanilla (why do people forget this?).  The LG Ally was also (to an extent) stock android. It had an LG theme that was optional.

          • Anonymous

            Most people prefer to forget failures like the Motorola Devour, Samsung Moment, the Sony Xperia Play and the LG Ally.  They are all quite forgettable phones.   Fortunately each of those vendors have better phones… well… except for maybe LG…. oh, and Sony.

          • Mr.Joe

            huh?  LG and Sony both have very successful android handsets outside of the States.  In addition Sony was one of the first companies to push out 2.3 when other companies was still pushing froyo on their phones. 

          • Anonymous

            Really?  Sony?  Which ones?  The X10?  X10 Mini?  Anything with TimeScape is such a joke that it doesn’t even worth a mention when talking about badly skinned phones.

            Yes, Sony pushed out an early Gingerbread phone…. to a resounding THUD.LG?  Their closest thing to a sucessful phone was the Optimus line and that was because they priced it low enough and sold some variant of it to anybody that would look at it.  Even in their last earnings called they spoke to their disappointing phone sales.

          • Anonymous

            arc was a pretty nice phone. Just cuz verizon doesn’t get them doesn’t mean they aren’t a good phone.

          • Anonymous

            A cheap plastic feeling, 1GHZ phone with TimeScape which makes the phone lag worse than any of the other top skins does not make it a “nice” phone.  Yes, it looks slick, but is underpowered, by most accounts uncomfortable to hold, and terribly laggy thanks to TimeScape.  I guess if style over function is your thing, then yeah, it is OK.

          • Anonymous

            So you are comparing something that comes out tomorrow to something that has been out for months? You’re right it shouldn’t be underpowered months after it came out because the bionic will be the same way.

          • Anonymous

            No, I would never do that.  But the Arc was considered underpowered when it LAUNCHED.  Remember, the Arc lauched at CES, around the same time everybody else was first introducing dual core phones.

            Look at reviews (and complaints) about even the Thunderbolt and the Charge.  At a time when others where showing dual cores (Motorola Atrix, Samsung Galaxy S2, Optimus 2X) or faster single cores (Samsung Infuse), the mindnumbing slowness of the TimeScape interface could have certainly used the boost.

        • Droid 1 was vanilla

      • Teevo0108

        Omap 4 on the bionic it wont be long before the update for IVA TRUST ME.

      • Teevo0108

        ICS. Typo

      • Anonymous

        If I remember correctly the Droid X was the first (non Nexus) phone to get Gingerbread.  And yes, if it is a choice between waiting for the OS on a solid phone, or the latest OS on a cheap piece of plastic that is “rumored” to be coming out “soon”… I will take the solid phone and wait.

        • Anonymous

          I’ll take the plastic=) I waited this long whats a little longer? I don’t need a phone that feels like a brick the plastic is plenty strong.

        • Mr.Joe

          No.  I can’t remember phone dates but:

          Xperia Play was released in May and had Gingerbread.  The Galaxy S II also had it and I think that was like April?

          • Anonymous

            Yes you are correct that they did launch earlier with Gingerbread, but I was speaking to UPDATES to phones already out.  Sorry if that was not clear.

        • Anonymous

          I think the evo had gb before the droid x.

          • Teevo0108

            No it didn’t. It had 2.2 first but not 2.3 moto was first to that.

          • digsoreos

            First is good in a race, but getting GB first when it made a great device mediocre and problematic isn’t the feat you want to be proud of. I would’ve rather waited for Motorola to get GB right. We’re still waiting.

          • Madcow06

            I thought the GB update made my Droid X far better than when it had froyo.

          • digsoreos

            You were lucky. Just read all the bugs, issues and deleted features that came with GB in the DX forums on the Motorola site.

          • Anonymous

            Nope, it did not.  Droid X got it on May 27th, and the Evo June 6th.

  • Matt4542

    Gotta wait until like 5PM EST to get this phone…I really hope they still have units in the store.

  • Anonymous

    Hard to ignore the screen when you are constantly looking at it…

    Does the root method still work? Heard it was patched already.

  • Anonymous

    The bevel around the edge. Whoever designed that should be shot for what a dust bin that will quickly become.

  • Anonymous

    it does not have that big hump like the X does.

  • Whcoleman37

    Not impressed with this phone. It looks like a droid x on steroids nothing more!

    • Anonymous

      But do you actually own the Bionic yet…or…just all hot air?

    • ehhh

      What’s wrong with a Droid X on steroids? lol

      • Bub

        Its a quicker 4g X with a lower qaulity screen.

      • Bub

        Its a quicker 4g X with a lower qaulity screen.

  • Anonymous

    I got to play around with one yesterday for a short time.  I really liked what i saw but still up in the air if i am going to get it.  still need to see how the battery does for one.  also i would like to read some other reviews before i decide.  

  • I was wondering when you’d get the phone for a hands on. 

  • Its gorgeous, but that screen bezel is going to catch a ton of lint!

    • Anonymous

      It already is heh.

  • Looks like a stupid place for the mic.  Cases are going to be fugly with the cutout partially on the front.  Ewww.

    • Anonymous

      Cases are always fugly. Unless they’re hiding an iPhon’t.

  • Brian Fernald

    With as many reviews that are being posted out there. The lack of in hand time by blogs like this might be the downfall of the Bionic. 

    With that said, I plan on hitting up Costco tomorrow morning when it opens…

    • David Evans

      Is the Costco deal confirmed?

      • Mr.Joe

        100 times over.

      • Anonymous

        What Costco deal? Please explain!

        • Anonymous

          You will still pay approximately the same amount ($299) but will get maybe $100 in accessories.

      • Brian Fernald

        I talked to one of the Wireless Guys that work the stand in one of the local Costco’s around here and he did say that the bundle is a go. 

        I also asked him about being grandfathered to Unlimited data and he said that it won’t be a problem. The reason I asked is that I had seen some comments about getting a new phone somewhere other than a VZW store would cause you to lose your unlimited data plan.

  • I’m sure there are those who will be ecstatic with this phone, but it just isn’t for me. I’m holding out for the Prime or Vigor.

    • Anonymous

      And when those come out, you will be waiting for what is coming out at CES.  And then by Mobile World Congress you will be looking at the Galaxy S3, and then it will be what is coming this summer… and so on, and so on.

      • Nope. If the Prime comes to VZW and is a true Nexus device, i’m buying it with no reservations. Should the Prime come to VZW and not be a real Nexus device, i’m going with the Vigor. Simple as that.

        • Pennywise

          The Vigor?! Why would you get that over the BIONIC? Doesn’t make any sense; though the Vigor will probably come in at $249

          • Jac White

            You mean other than the fact that a lot of people prefer sense to motoblur and it will have a true HD screen instead of the pentile qhd?

          • Anonymous

            As well as poor battery life, signal quality and average processor performance.

          • I will fight the next person to the death who disagrees with me!  FIGHT TO THE DEATH RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW!!!

  • Anonymous

    To Buyonic or not Buyonic. That’s the question…

    • The D3 has older software.  Once the update comes out, I’m sure it will be every bit as snappy.  The RAM issue should theoretically only affect multitasking.  (at least that’s what I keep telling myself…)

      • Stephen D

        RAM WILL only affect multitasking. RAM literally makes zero difference in speed, especially on an OS like Android. Kellex is probably just imaging that it’s snappier, because the one I used wasn’t.

        • Anonymous

          Or maybe you’re imagining that its not snappier, because everyone else that has reviewed has commented on how fast and smooth it is

          • Stephen D

            Same with everyone who reviewed the D3…

        • Anonymous

          with more RAM it can keep more things cached for fast retrieval. 

          More RAM is greatly appreciated by me as my DROID 1 has a horrible issue with it(but yes this mostly surfaces when multitasking). 256MB is not enough.

        • Anonymous

          With more RAM shouldn’t more elements of the OS be cached in memory and hence be faster to access?

        • Mr.Joe

          RAM type plays a big difference.  Like if it’s DDR, DDR2, or XDR.

    • This is where someone is supposed to say, “Dude! The Prime will pwn the Bionic!” 🙂

      • Oh yeah! With it’s old Cortex A8 based processor. That’s why they need to clock it to 1.5GHz because it couldn’t compete with the OMAP4 otherwise.

        • Mr.Joe

          OUCH.

        • Anonymous

          The vigor is 1.5ghz isnt the prime rumored to have the 4470? Thought thats what was being said. The vigor yes has old cortex from what rumors say.

          • More likely the 4460.

          • Anonymous

            Still then it would be better and newer than the bionic.

          • Essentially it’s an overclocked 4430, the processor in the Bionic. With root the Bionic could be overclocked to the same.

          • Anonymous

            Well good luck with root since moto with updates fixed the exploit. Idk why moto is so anti development.

          • Ppeklak

            is this true?  its basically the exact same CPU?

          • Anonymous
          • Biblo

            Overclocking requires a kernel change which is impossible with moto’s encrypted bootloader.

          • Anonymous

            Depends on what the kernel allows, we’ll see.

          • The Droid X has been overclocked for quite some time and it has an encrypted bootloader, so this is not true.

          • Anonymous

            If I’m not mistaken the 4460’s gpu is clocked a lil bit higher too. Ya know to help it win benchmarks.. lol

            Seriously, the higher clocked gpu should give it a lil bit better gpu performance than the 4430 in the Bionic.

            The gpu in the 4470 is gonna be nice. It should be on par or maybe better than the gpu in the iPad 2….which is also nice.

          • Anonymous

            But it also doesn’t have a release date.

          • Anonymous

            I can wait another month or so and compare I am not in a hurry.

          • Anonymous

            Depends on which Rumors you read or want to accept.  I have seen the Prime rumored to be a Tegra3, an OMAP4, an Exynos.  So far really that is all it is… rumor.

          • Anonymous

            Either way none of those are “old” as the one person stated.

          • Anonymous

            agreed… wasn’t trying to argue with you… just trying to point out that it is hard to argue the point at all (from either side) since the rumors have been all over the place.  I have no doubt though, that you are correct that the Prime will most likely have a better or newer processor. It only makes sense.

          • Anonymous

            Let’s waiti and see what the final specs are on the Prime, too  many people are talking a lot of nonsense from rumors instead of waiting to see the final product with true and reliable information.

          • EC8CH

            The Prime will be OMAP… I think that at least is substantiated beyond rumor at this point.

        • Gamer28

          I was under the impression that the Prime would have a TI chip, not Qualcom. Where did you hear it would be the Cortext A8 and not the newer TI chip?
          Whatsmore there are no dual core Cortext A8 chips. Qualcom’s dual core chips share a similar architecture but saying that they’re A8s is missleading.

          • He edited his comment to say Prime instead of Vigor.

          • The MSM8260 and MSM8660 chipsets use a Scorpion CPU which is based on the Cortex A8. The EVO 3D has the MSM8660 SoC.

            Every manufacturer TI/Qualcom/Samsung/NVidia use either the Cortex A8 or A9 logic and then build upon them. So in all actuality none of them are PURE Cortex based, but the CPU core itself most definitely is.

          • Anonymous

            Right now Qualcomm alone designs its own cores based on the ARM instruction set. It is the only SOC manufacturer in the Cellfone/Tablet space to do that right now. NVIDIA will attempt something similar but more ambitious to that with their 64bit ARM based Project Denver.

            So SnapDragon-Scorpion is a implementation of the ARM V7 instruction set + Adreno GPU 
            by Qualcomm. So you cannot say SD-S is equivalent to Cortex-A8. It can be between A8 and A9 or in some cases better than a implementation of A9. 
             
            ARM Cortex A9 is Advanced Risc Machines’s own core implementation of ARM V7.

            Different SOC manufacturers license the core + instruction set from ARM and then add their  Graphics cores (Power VR for OMAP4 & A5, Geforce ULP for Tegra2, Mali400 for Exynos) to provide a SOC. Also these manufacturers may leave aside certain sections of the instruction set. For example Tegra2 does not implement the NEON SIMD instruction set of other A9 based SOCs. But Kal-El will be using NEON SIMD even though it will be based on the A9 cores.

        • Stephen D

          Still can’t compete with the OMAP4, Tegra 2, or Exynos, even at 1.5ghz. The new Snapdragon uses their Scorpion core(two of them), which is an A8 based core. The A9 chips are more power efficient and also perform leagues better, even at lower clock speeds. To top it all off, the Adreno 220 still struggles with gaming. I can only hope the next Nexus will use an OMAP4. Any of the 3 variations will be fast enough, especially with hardware accelerated ICS.

          • Andrew Akker

            the newer Snapdragons are going to start using Krait cores. Every dual-core snapdragon out now uses Scorpions, but Krait has been benching pretty well so far.

        • Anonymous

          Don’t hate man or in ESPN’s words “You Mad Bro?????”  😛

          • Anonymous

            You hate constantly.

      • Can Droid-life please add some widgets to the screens…like all 5?  My D3 is responsive as well with no widgets…

        • Also….ROOT??? Yes or no?

          • Yes, its been rooted already.

          • Anonymous

            well the exploit has been patched p3droid was talking about it on twitter so if you want to root you may wanna get one right away before any updates get pushed that make it have to start from scratch to root.

          • Sporttster

            This is totally the reason I’m not buying one! F Motorola! I KNEW they’d patch that exploit! They aren’t serious about unlocking this! F them! I’m going with the Prime and Samsung….I’ll get a phone that is open and can be developed….let Motorola rot….

          • Sporttster

            This is totally the reason I’m not buying one! F Motorola! I KNEW they’d patch that exploit! They aren’t serious about unlocking this! F them! I’m going with the Prime and Samsung….I’ll get a phone that is open and can be developed….let Motorola rot….

          • And, and don’t just boot the phone up and then give us impression based speed tests.  Let it run for a day and let that RAM fill up so we can see how good the RAM management is.  Any phone does well 5 minutes after it’s booted up!

          • 1. It does not take a day to fill up RAM and a day of filled-up RAM doesn’t make a lick of difference from a minute of filled-up RAM

            2. RAM has little to do with performance in Android 2.2+. 
            3. You complain and want him to do a day long test? The phone hasn’t even been released yet, but you were expecting full array of tests? As if kellex has had this phone for weeks and is holding back on us? Wait for the full review…

          • Anonymous

            dalvik is not infallible. Some phones get dog slow without wiping cache.

      • You edited your comment to say Prime! Cheater!!

      • Anonymous

        How about the Prime will “Body Slam” the Bionic, and then do a Hulk Hogan fore arm shiver to the throat while putting his hand to the ear to hear all of the little Prime Maniacs screaming for Ice Cream Sandwich :P.

      • Anonymous

        How about the Prime will “Body Slam” the Bionic, and then do a Hulk Hogan fore arm shiver to the throat while putting his hand to the ear to hear all of the little Prime Maniacs screaming for Ice Cream Sandwich :P.

        • DROID VADAR

          Are you wrestling as we speak?

      • Baconvikes

        That is a generic form sentence: “Dude! The will pwn the !” 

        Who cares. I’m sick of everything being obsolete before I get through the clamshell packaging. 

    • Anonymous

      It depends… compare the battery life with an OG Droid..

    • Alec Bush

      Buy.

      Upgrading from an OG Droid, so anything at this moment is a good upgrade.

      • Sgtblack

        I’m in the same boat I want to wait for the prime but my OG is on its last legs.

      • Anonymous

        That’s one way to look at it….I on the other hand am just not sure yet. I need some clarity!

    • Anonymous

      Just watched the video and Kellex doesn’t have that “We have the Beast of a phone” excitement in his voice like usual.  like he stated in the written part of the post “It’s All Good So Far” is that well it’s not giving me that SG@ type “Wow” factor since Moto has had the device for 9months now LOL

  • Anonymous

    Please report on battery life!

    • Anonymous

      If that report comes today, I’ll wait for a different phone.

    • Mr.Joe

      CNET gave the phone an editors choice after doing battery tests.  

      • Anonymous

        Oh nice…. very nice 🙂

        • Mr.Joe

          That’s what Nicole Lee said (the one who reviewed it) on her Google +:

          “Yeah, I’m thinking of adding Editor’s Choice to it after battery tests.”

          And voila it has an editors choice. 

  • ChrisI

    ooooooo……ppprrreeettttyyyyy….it’s thinner than I thought…