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DROID3 Is Released With A Locked Bootloader According To Motorola Forum Manager

This is it everyone, the biggest question surrounding every new Android release it seems – and it’s not favorable. The Motorola Forum Manager has just announced that the DROID3 bootloader is locked, just like most previous Motorola devices. This unfortunately will not be a device like the XOOM, with its lockable and unlockable bootloader. Not to say we actually thought it would release with it unlocked, but we definitely hoped Moto finally started listening to their screaming consumers.

This isn’t the end though, the DROIDX and the DROID Incredible 2 are just now seeing CyanogenMod, so who knows. We have the best developer community constantly working on these phones, so don’t lose hope just yet.

Is this a shock to everyone or is this just the same thing, different device?

*Note (from K) – Before everyone gets too nasty up in these comments, let’s stop for a minute and let some devs get a hold of this thing.  There are actually very few devices in the world that are unlockable/relockable (Nexus phones and the XOOM), so this isn’t all that surprising.  What we have to find out now is how locked down this thing really is.  Like Tato said above, our devs managed to get past the DX bootloader, so I’m sure they’ll do whatever they can to make some magic happen here.

Also, remember that Motorola said that their new bootloader policy wouldn’t go into effect until “late 2011, where carriers and operators will allow it.”  We’re technically still in mid-2011…or something.

Via: Motorola Forums

Cheers Rick!

  • CyberPete

    Here’s a question. About what percent of people buying this phone do you think actually give a $hit whether the bootloader is locked?  Yeah, I care. but the overwhelming majority of buyers wouldn’t even know what you were talking about if asked.  So, don’t buy it. I’m not going to, primarily for that reason.  Motorola’s decision not ours. I’m not angry and pissed off at Motorola for making this decision. I’m sure it’s driven somewhat by the fact that Verizon doesn’t want us to steal tethering, a product that they legitimately sell, and that I (and probably many of you) currently get for free, against Verizon’s rules that they put on the network and spectrum that they own.

  • Aesirx

    The DroidX bootloader has NOT been unlocked. CM uses a workaround to load custom software using the standard Moto kernel. If the Droid Bionic has a bootloader locked like the Droid X, I will not buy it, and there’s a very good chance Verizon will lose me as a customer.

    Its time to hit these companies where it hurts. No more paying for devices we can never truly own.

  • Anonymous

    My Google Reader has been full of these “Droid 3 Shipping with Locked Bootloader” articles for two days.  C’mon people, we all know that if the device is manufactured by Motorola, it will ship with a locked bootloader. I’d bet that the original Droid was the last phone Motorola will ship that it’s locked.

  • JeffL0320

    They’ll start listening when people stop buying their phones.  I wonder how long it would take them to change their minds if everyone boycotted the BIONIC.

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  • Stephen

    we do realize that we are only talking about a cell phone here, right people?

  • Jeez, people, get real.   The development cycle for these things is 6-10 months.  They didn’t announce a change in policy until this phone was well in development.    You don’t change fundamental things like that mid-development.  

  • Michaelvandeven

    with the speed at which the mobile world moves, i fail to see how motorola can wait until the end of 2011 to make this change.  just DO IT, already.

  • Anonymous

    So Moto is wondering why their sales are down, their products are missing the mark and other Android brands are climbing.  Its called unlocked bootloaders.  Sure a lot of users don’t know what it is, won’t use it but for that large portion that do and will you are pissing us off.

    HTC is doing it, Samsung is doing it and they are doing it on Verizon so go play in traffic or get it done.  Your call Moto.

  • Lord_20_bucks

    What ever happened with the tbolt being unlocked. Off topic I know

  • Llilsoccakid724

    I love Moto hardware, but I refuse to support a company that was such little respect for its customers. It takes a lot for me to not choose my favorite phone, but every phone bought from them will keep the hopes of an unlocked bootloader farther and farther away.

  • virtual

    As if the SGS2 needed help looking more attractive than the Bionic, it looks like that’s what will happen when Moto locks the Bionic too…

  • So i ordered my droid 3 before lunch time!!! getting it overnighted for tomorrow by 3pm!!! so excited! I had the OG droid since day 1 and now im getting the droid 3 on day 1. or is it day 2 if i get it friday? 

    lockedbootlegger just means i get to enjoy my phone, then in a few days i get to unleash the power thanks to the sweet devs!

    • Anonymous

      Amen brother!

  • Anonymous

    So I have a Xoom, and I can unlock the bootloader, so what! I still have to root it and then install a custom ROM! 99.9% of the idiots who cry, bitch and moan about locked bootloaders couldn’t do a damn thing different to their phone without a DEVELOPER to write a stable custom ROM! So what does this say?? you whiners are just wanting to sound cool, and or just love to complain about everything! Get a life!

  • Anonymous

    Locked and Blur are the buzz-words of Haters. Here is an
    idea, start your own phone company and build your own perfect phone and sell it
    to the world and get rich! Otherwise, shut up already! I have had a lot of fun
    playing with my DX and flashing custom roms like Liberty, etc. and flashing
    cool themes too. I bought the Droid3 this morning and I am excited to play with
    it. Like all Android’s it will be rooted within days most likely. Then I
    can start removing what I want as far as apps go, and I am sure in a matter of
    time some AWESOME developer will take on making rom’s and such. Call me names
    and yell and scream if you must. I personally like these forums for the camaraderie that
    comes from users of like devices, NOT for yelling and screaming and getting
    pissed off! But whatever, sometimes I laugh at it, sometimes
    it makes me mad. I really like Droid-Life.com and I am here to stay!

  • Anonymous

    Bionic, schmionic. Motorola and all their goofy schiznit needs to be beaten with a stick, just like a redheaded stepchild. Never forget what got you here Motorola. 

    Now, if HTC could somehow manage to increase the battery life on their devices, now that’s what I’m talking about.

  • kurttrail

    So who is willing to bet that the Bionic will ship with an unlockable bootloader?

    BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

  • Anonymous

    Here’s the deal – ALL PHONES ARE LOCKED. Everyone of them has come locked. The Original Droid was locked. The Thunderbolt was locked. Devices like the Xoom and Nexus phones are also locked. The difference between them and phones like the DX and DX2 are that those locked bootloaders weren’t locked well. So developers were able to get past it easily. The bootloaders for each of the Moto phones post-OG Droid were encrypted – meaning it was incredibly difficult to get past it. We don’t know if the bootloader on the D3 is locked down tight like the DX or if it’s relatively easy to get past like the D1. And let’s not start slitting our wrists over something said by a forum moderator. Who knows how much he actually knows about the device.

  • J Dub

    Or you stick with Verizon cause you like the fact they have great coverage. I only have a cell phone so I need it to work everywhere. I pay for that service. I am not gonna jump around carriers for a certain phone. Chances are I would get fed up with not being able to use its features all the places I want. Hell, AT&T doesn’t even have my house covered with 3G yet they sure have a huge billboard .5 miles down the road advertising how their 3G coverage is so awesome in my area.

  • J Dub

    Well I was really hoping for news that this would be like the Xoom. Officially not going to take a look at this phone. Look at how many devs there are still for the D1. There are very few for the DX and D2. I will continue to wait for something worthy of the open developement Android.

  • Anonymous

    Checked out the DX2 to see about this whole pentile screen thing.

    All I can say is, if the Bionic final revision still includes the Pentile screen, I’ll be waiting for the newer Samsung Phone.  Went to droid-life.com on both my DX and Floor Demo DX2, and just a quick glance at the pink banner going across the screen, you can already notice the graininess.  Now, the blacks on the DX2 were nicer than they were on my DX.

    Was considering the Droid3 or the Bionic, but having second thoughts now.  As I said before, the hardware under the hood is quite nice, but why ruin the phones with such a sub-par screen!?  Moto could have done better.

    The screen on the Droid Charge was really nice, really puts the screen on the DX2 to shame.

    • Nick A Mathews

      The google’s official phones (nexus S and nexus one) also have pentile screens. I keep thinking there must be multiple reasons as to why pentile is taking up such a following among the android manufacturing community. 

      • Anonymous

        The Specific Pentile screen on the DX2 and D3 is different in arrangement than they were on the Samsung.  It uses a while pixe (RGBW)l for the fourth pixel instead of Samsung’s RGBG.

        I believe the Droid Charge screen is also different from the previous Samsung Screens, it no longer has blueish hue.

  • Nick A Mathews

    I pre-ordered my OG Droid which means today is the day I’m available for upgrade. Releasing the Droid 3 today was (at least in my opinion) a ploy to get people like me to move to the next droid asap. Motorola is hoping that I’ll be so eager to have a new phone that I will jump right on there droid 3 bandwagon regardless of it’s software.

    You know what? 

    I think I’m going to get the incredible 2. Motorola will stop making shitty devices if we stop buying them. If you buy it (and still figure out how to break their security), how are they supposed to know that’s why you bought the phone? The money tells them “HEY THEY MUST REALLY LIKE ALL THIS BLUR CRAP! PILE IT ON BOYS!” If droid3 comes out with a whimper instead of the BANG they expected, they might consider that it’s not worth slaughtering android with their craptastic app library. 

  • THEGOD

    I really hope that the Bionic has also a locked bootloader to make all the net geeks furious,
    Seriously rooting is so OG Droid, rooting was cool when you wanted adobe flash and LWPs first.
    ROFLCOPTERS

  • derkk

    When are you guys going to realize that locked boot loaders are a product of Verizon and not Motorola. VZ requires these things and I doubt that will change.  What will test this is HTC saying “no more locked boot loaders period”.  If HTC can launch unlocked bootloaders on VZ and Moto can’t?  Then we know it’s moto, but I guess we’ll see. 

    But it’s Vz who’s notorious about locking things down, not Moto.

  • derkk

    When are you guys going to realize that locked boot loaders are a product of Verizon and not Motorola. VZ requires these things and I doubt that will change.  What will test this is HTC saying “no more locked boot loaders period”.  If HTC can launch unlocked bootloaders on VZ and Moto can’t?  Then we know it’s moto, but I guess we’ll see. 

    But it’s Vz who’s notorious about locking things down, not Moto.

    • Jeff

      Im sorry but that makes no sense, you say its verizon that requires it but then go on to say that if HTC gets away with it then its not verizon…sounds like you you have your facts straight…

      It is not just that verizon is locking them down because then why are all other moto devices locked on every other carrier??? You cant say its the carriers there either because the nexus devices came out unlocked/relockable on other carriers. I dont understand why this is so hard for people to understand

    • Anonymous

      If its vzw why are all Motos locked down? Enough with the its vzw bs Samsung lg and htc all are unlocked on verizon it is all moto not Verizon!

  • no shock here…definitely not purchasing a motorola product any time soon.

  • Stelv81

    Go to the support forum and tell them you are returning your device if you plan on doing so, so they can know that they are pissing customers off https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/53563?start=45&tstart=0

  • RW-1

    No Kellex, we don’t have to hold off on being nasty, you’re obtuse to believe they would release it unlocked…

    The final nail in the moto coffin will be the bionic with a locked down loader, and it won;t make any difference if moto says it can be unlocked, because they won’t do it. It just isn’t going to happen because Jha is a tool and in bed with VZ.

    I’ll give moto the chance to prove me wrong as always, release the bionic unlocked. I dare you.

    Suffice it to say I’m confident that dare will not be met.

    Sad state of affairs, and lol’s post is correct, NO ONE has cracked or bypassed the bootloader, it has been partial replacement successes, however each boot it has to be bypassed again, it’s a band aid at best, and not true AOSP or ROM with custom kernels.

  • lol thisismyname

    Nobody has gotten past the Droid X bootloader. What happened was people were able to load partial custom ROMs via bootstrapping but you cannot replace the kernel and you cannot upgrade to a new version that is not based on something from Motorola. That means if your device gets EOL’ed (like the Droid 2) and Motorola stops putting out updates, you’re stuck on Froyo or Gingerbread or whatever they last thing they developed was.

  • Rizzidy

    F Motorola

  • @Jaycity216

    The Bootloader will get unlocked just like the DX. I have faith. Just have to decide if I want to have a keyboard again…or a 4.5 inch screen…Decisions decisions…(and RIP HTC Thunderbolt)

  • Anonymous

    Anyone else turning blue from holding their breadth?

  • Maniko (Meister_Li)

    Actually, you are wrong. All LG and Samsung phones are unlocked, including the latest Iterations like the Galaxy S II. And HTC has announced they will unlock the boot loaders of their phones as well soon, so there’s no excuse for this shit. Not to mention that “They do it too!” *point finger* isn’t a very good excuse.

    Thanks for reinforcing my negative opinion of you, motorola.

  • chmcclellan

    Maybe it’s the hopeful/totally irrational side of me, but the prolonged delay in the Bionic combined with Moto’s cryptic statements on unlocked boot loaders make me think it might be unlocked.
     
    Here is the thing, as angry as I am when I see every Moto come out locked, it almost makes me want an unlocked one more.  With all the OG users coming up for upgrades, they could sell a ton of those things if they had a strategic change of heart.
     
    I know I for one could not punish them for all the disappointment by refusing to buy what will be an awesome phone (if unlocked).

  • Well that’s pretty piss poor news, but to be expected…

  • Anonymous

    watching Matt fold like cheap $2 suit is hilarious on that thread, trying to use security as an argument is beyond pathetic. Either he’s a real moron who doesn’t deserve his job or paid really well to spew absolute bull crap.

  • Droidrage729

    Theyll crack it. Just give the community some time .

    • DX’s still isn’t cracked. They’ve worked around it as best they could.

    • DX’s still isn’t cracked. They’ve worked around it as best they could.

  • Unexpected62

    if anyone gets this thing can they try gingerbreak?? http://www.droid-life.com/2011/05/19/droidx2-already-rooted-using-gingerbreak/

  • Unexpected62

    if anyone gets this thing can they try gingerbreak?? http://www.droid-life.com/2011/05/19/droidx2-already-rooted-using-gingerbreak/

  • Lord Feyr

    Bah who cares. This will make a great device for normal people who don’t get all crazy with modifyingand don’t live in lte markets. I just ordered this phone for my wife to replace the og droid. I’m still rockin the og myself but used my upgrade for her and will upgrade my phone around november when her upgrade is due. Plus 119.99 is hard to beat. Discounted pricing of 149.99 plus new every 2 30 bucks off. Check the vz site because I had to call and send a screen shot to prove the 119.99 price before they honored it.

  • Lord Feyr

    Bah who cares. This will make a great device for normal people who don’t get all crazy with modifyingand don’t live in lte markets. I just ordered this phone for my wife to replace the og droid. I’m still rockin the og myself but used my upgrade for her and will upgrade my phone around november when her upgrade is due. Plus 119.99 is hard to beat. Discounted pricing of 149.99 plus new every 2 30 bucks off. Check the vz site because I had to call and send a screen shot to prove the 119.99 price before they honored it.

  • Lord Feyr

    Bah who cares. This will make a great device for normal people who don’t get all crazy with modifyingand don’t live in lte markets. I just ordered this phone for my wife to replace the og droid. I’m still rockin the og myself but used my upgrade for her and will upgrade my phone around november when her upgrade is due. Plus 119.99 is hard to beat. Discounted pricing of 149.99 plus new every 2 30 bucks off. Check the vz site because I had to call and send a screen shot to prove the 119.99 price before they honored it.

  • color me shocked!  /sarcasm

  • BTGGTR1

    What a surprize!! Moto, you are really stupid. Or, it could be a Verizon thing. I’m betting it’s Verizon. That’s why a Nexus phone has yet to be on Verizon, cause God forbid you have an unlocked bootloader you know…

  • I’m due for upgrades on my 2 lines in Sept.  It’ll be rooted by then.

  • Robert

    everyone is blowing this way out of proportion he is simply stating it is not unlocked, what bootloader has been released unlocked??

    The xoom was locked it was up to the end user user to unlock, all this means is its not unlocked from the factory, no one has expected this anyways..

    • Anonymous

      Agree as long as it isn’t encrypted that is what matters.

  • I’m un-familiar with bootloaders. I have the Droid 1 right now. Droid 3 is in the mail. I haven’t rooted my Droid 1 either. So right now I could care less if its locked or unlocked. But we’ll see when I get it.

    I just want a phone that won’t run out of storage space, loads icons on unlock, doesn’t freeze, and occasionally makes phone calls.

    • Then an unlocked bootloader doesn’t seem to be for you. I’m sure the D3 will take care of all your needs straight out of the box.

    • Stelv81

      Well if you get a phone with Moto Blur on it, it will freeze and be laggy, even if it has a dual core. The Droid 1 was one of the only Motos without blur and a stock android interface. That is why people loved it so much.

    • Stelv81

      Well if you get a phone with Moto Blur on it, it will freeze and be laggy, even if it has a dual core. The Droid 1 was one of the only Motos without blur and a stock android interface. That is why people loved it so much.

  • Max

    So yea, I’m not happy about this, but has everyone forgotten about the Atrix? They gave us the ability to unlock it. I know they promised more dev friendly devices, but you guys need to calm down. Perhaps we will have the same option. We don’t know yet. It took them like 5 months to give us the unlock for the Atrix. Give it some time.

    And stop being cry babies. It makes us look bad.

    • Hoosiercub

      No they didn’t give us anything.. an exploit was found through a not so official build for the Atrix. That is all.

      • Anonymous

        Well since moto sent out that build yes they did give you the unlock!

  • Same lies – just different phones.  Between this hot mess and the lack of 4G LTE and other items for the XOOM yet, I’ve finally had enough of Motorola.  The Droid X2 is my last Motorola phone.  Hell, even when HTC locks their bootloaders, it’s still able to be accessed via the devs who pass it on to us.  Moto for all their supposed voicing of support, sound just like a bunch of used car salesman and I’ve finally had enough.

  • Tesseract 3

    Par for the course… 

  • This pretty much seals the deal on me not even going to get my hopes up for an easily unlockable Bionic.  If the GSII doesn’t have LTE then I’ll just hold on to my T-Bolt for a while.

  • It’s locked, it will still get ROMs and people will still Root it.  It would be nice to see an unlocked bootloader but at this point I have given up hope on MOTO doing that on anything but Dev devices.  I like having my XOOM ready to unlock but until they make the re-locking process a little more bulletproof I will not do it again.  I had to SBF three times to get it back so I could get to 3.1 and watch movies on it.  There are just too many Apps from big players out there that will require a stock phone and locking the bootloader helps keep it that way.  Netflix HD should be coming to the D3 and you can bet it won’t work on a rooted device.  So the main question should be would you rather tweak or get some really great features and apps.

    • Chris Norris

      Why would Netflix HD not work on a rooted device? The app they have now works just fine.

    • One thing I would like to see is something like 6 months after the phone goes EoL or something like that they should unlock everything make it an optional update that you can get to completely unlock the device.  Like on the Droid X since its replacement is out why not unlock it so new kernels can be made and make everything easier.  I generally only screw around on my OG Droid and in a month or two when I replace my X and its not my daily use phone then I will mess with that as well but until then using it for business I can’t be wiping it every few days.

  • mysticdarkhack

    That is disappointing to me, Motorola seem to not want to listen to customer’s, and I agree that we do have AWESOME developer’s out there willing to open the door of FREE choice.

  • Mctypething

    Enough with the bootloader whining. If you don’t want a phone with a locked bootloader, don’t buy it. And if this site has such a problem with it, stop creating 6,000 blog posts about the phone. Enough already.

    • Anonymous

      Ouch, looks like someone just got there panties in a bunch 😛 Must be someone from Moto!!! 

    • I personally have the OG Droid. It would be nice to have a nice upgrade available with an unlocked bootloader. I may be waiting a long time with my OG Droid, but I will not upgrade to a phone with a locked bootloader.

      • Anonymous

        There are dual core phones out there right now with no locked bootloader. Ditch Motorola. Send them the only message a corporation ever really gets; the message of a dollar lost.

        • Challenger

          Which ones other than the atrix

          • Anonymous

            Samsung Galaxy S II (beast of a phone), LG G2X (vanilla GB), LG Optimus 2X, HTC Sensation 4G; probably others (and derivatives of those). If you’re married to Verizon, then you don’t really have options right now. Of course, it’s a bit silly to be loyal to any tech or telcom company. They either give me what I want for my money, or I walk and say, “better luck next time.” I wish more consumers were like this.

          • Anonymous

            Not everyone can leave. Verizon has best coverage by far in my area and id rather know ill have service w.e I go. Also the gs2 isn’t out in the us yet.

          • Anonymous

            If you’re going to wait for a phone on VZW, don’t wait for the Bionic. Just get whatever version of the SGSII they come out with. Just my $0.02.

          • Immolate

            SGSII’s blessing is its curse. Beautiful screen screwed on to a phone that has the durability of a model airplane. Thank you Samsung.

          • Anonymous

            WTF? You know it’s not a durable phone, how?

          • Anonymous

            I actually prefer plastic, like on the Droid Incredible. Just as durable as anything else out there (mainly because it can flex on impact) and far lighter.

          • The SGSII looks like an amazing phone. I would definitely upgrade to that… just wish it had a slide out keyboard. I am one of those that likes the physical keyboard. I can’t stand playing games that have buttons taking up landscape on the screen.

            Perhaps with a larger screen, these problems will be offset though. I am coming from the OG Droid which didn’t have much extra screen landscape.

          • Anonymous

            I actually found the OG Droid’s keyboard frustrating, either for games or for typing. Once I got the Swype/Gingerbread keyboard combo, I found I never slid the keyboard out for anything other t than Clockwork Recovery. For gaming, I’d usually go with a Wiimote+classic combo. Physical keyboards are overrated, in my experience.

          • Djstar2k2

            actually G2x still froyo but unlocked some u can rom gb.  but for me i need a physical kb and notification leds.  why cant the end user jump online and order the phone stock?  i would foolwith this if it was stock and probaly never rom

        • Which ones are they?  Are they available in the US?

          • Anonymous

            G2X in the US is awesome on T-mo. Tegra 2 (very underrated chip due to crappy benchmarks out there; it’s really quite competitive), HSPA+ (T-Mo’s 4G; comparable to LTE given the same network congestion), and vanilla Gingerbread.

            HTC Sensation 4G if you’re on Sprint. It’s like the Evo 4G with two cores.

            If you’re going to wait for something, make it the SGSII. Uber.

      • Anonymous

        I am still using the OG Droid as well with Pete’s GPA 15 which allows me to run GB on the OG. Looks like my next phone might be a Sammy GS2.

    • Dd

      Sounds like you’re the one doing the whining.  derp.

    • Jbarb

      ….and if you don’t like reading about people who have some thoughts or opinions on this issue that may be different from yours, than maybe go somewhere else….

      • AndroFan

        It’s really astounding the level of anti-intellectualism that (presumably) full grown adults are capable of. 

    • So uh, FYI…blogs tend to talk about issues their readers care about. As customers we weigh the pros and cons of getting a particular phone – a locked bootloader is as important to some as other information about the phone (provided in the other 6,000 blog posts?). If you have a problem with it, READ OTHER ARTICLES.

    • Granted

      I constantly enjoy your posts. 🙂

    • Granted

      I constantly enjoy your posts. 🙂

    • Endisky

      You do realize that you not only have the choice to read or not read a topic BUT you also have the choice whether you want to post in said topic!

  • If you don’t like blur, You can still use ADW or LP to change icons, dock, launcher etc right? 

    • Granted

      Hell yeah you can! Which of course just makes complaining about this about as retarded as thinking that pretty well kept whore on the street corner, won’t give you genital warts and probably some creepy crawlers.

      • kurttrail

        Nope, what is really “retarded” is believing that Blur is just a launcher, numbnuts.

        • Anonymous

          Actually, in the latter revisions of Blur, it really isn’t much more. if you can the launchet (corresponding widgets by proxy) what you wind up with is minor cosmetic changers and their social service still running. But why let reality get in the easy of a good witch burning, eh?

  • Anonymous

    Now we have MOTO DRAMA!!! The lights on but the elevator just isn’t making it’s way to the top. When will they ever learn?? Listen to your faithful customers snd some of them are starting to tire of Moto’s “I don’t care what you think policy”.

    It’s a wait and see game with Moto “No/Relockable Locked Bootloader on Moto devices” Surrreeee I’ll believe it when I see it or Moto sends the check in the mail, oh wait thats my bill 😛

    • Anonymous

      Why does Moto have loyal customers? Why does any company have loyal customers? I’m a huge Google and Subaru fan (WRX, at least), but if something better comes along for my money or time I’ll go with that, instead.

      Brand loyalty is about as smart as staying with a low paying job where they treat you like crap instead of going with a high paying job where they treat you great simply because you feel you ought to be “loyal” to your boss. Wait, it’s even stupider than that.

      • Anonymous

        I agree as well with you, but you would like to voice your concern when the
        company starts to go down the wrong track. I know this forum gives us that
        ability, even though it’s like preaching to the choir. Thats why i still
        have my OG and have been tempted to change back in Jan. when the Tbolt came
        out. Honestly just waiting to see what the final specs are with the Bionic
        and compare to what the other OEMs will bring to beat the Bionic.

        • Anonymous

          I dropped my OG Droid for a Streak 7 tablet. I know it appears crazy, but it’s an HSPA+, 7″, Tegra 2 tablet that’s silly easy to root and was $99 (plus, Dell’s “Stage UI” is just a launcher; install LP, ADW, Zeam, etc. and all of the “manufacturer customisation” is gone; it’s stock freakin’ Android!). Dell, Moto, Samsung; I couldn’t care less. Just give me what I want for the price I want.

          • Anonymous

            LOL Cool, and it only costed you 99 bucks thats awesome. Pure Android
            goodness 🙂

          • Anonymous

            Not to steal from McDonald’s, but I’m loving it. I’m even trying to learn to dev on the thing (with abysmal results, but it’s only been a few weeks). That’s the beauty of Android!

          • Anonymous

            Dude, thats something i’ve always wanted to learn, just not enough time
            right now. I guess I could start with a couple of books. I don’t have any
            java or C,++ experince. I do have a technology background with Petroleum
            Engineering and software sales.

            Any good starting points??

          • Anonymous

            Give this a gander:
            http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/26481-where-do-i-start/page__gopid__214388#entry214388

            I’m Zandar on those forums, so I had the same question. I’m just getting into it; seems half the battle is getting the tools, then you can play around with the coding. There are so many scripts that making a ROM can be pretty automated, if you know what all to do. Of course, it can also be a nightmare if it doesn’t go smoothly; which is often the case. Still, it’s pretty simple to customise stuff once you get a feel for it. I’m hoping to start theming at the very least, even if I never get all the way up to ROM’ing.

            For app creation, you basically need to know Java. Even if you know only a little bit (I’m getting some base knowledge), you can get started with Android’s App Inventor. Pretty simple, but we all start out simple.

            I have nothing to show for my efforts, yet, but I am having fun (call me a geek, I guess). Dive in; the water’s great!

          • Anonymous

            Thanks for the info, will check out the CM link you provided. I noticed
            from Tato’s Dev’s interviews that some of them had no dev experience or very
            little and they just purchased books to pick up on the coding and studying
            like you’re doing.

          • Anonymous

            Droidzilla,

            Are you on Googles +1?? If so can you please send me an invite?? Just trying
            to get an invite to try this new social site by Google out 🙂

          • Anonymous

            I’m on Google+, but they’ve killed the invite workaround. I’ll send one out anyway, just in case.

  • MJ

    I don’t really care whether it’s locked or not – I used stock for AGES until just very recently on my OG Droid… and CM7 isn’t the least buggy ROM out there. If the phone works as it should, I’ll be happy.

  • Jonathan Hunt

    Didn’t realize what a “Motorola Forum Messenger” says on a forum post is to be made front page news.  Does he also know the answer to the question of life?

    • Chris Norris

      42

  • Anonymous

    I’m pretty much positive that I will get the Samsung Galaxy SII if it comes with Lte

  • Same old, same old.

  • Anonymous

    It’s only a matter of time. The devs will unlock it just like they do for all the rest.

  • Vire

    The correlation is simple. If you see Blur then the bootloader is locked. What does that tell you?

    • Jeff

      If they would remover Blur which just about everyone seems to dislike and give us updates in a reasonable time frame ( not 1-2 years ) This would not be much of an issue.  However, refuse to do so….

      The funny part is that I do not know of any other manufacturer that would go so far out of their way to add a feature ( I say bug) like Blur and expend resources on it that virtually not one likes…..  It seems a little crazy….

    • Jeff

      If they would remover Blur which just about everyone seems to dislike and give us updates in a reasonable time frame ( not 1-2 years ) This would not be much of an issue.  However, refuse to do so….

      The funny part is that I do not know of any other manufacturer that would go so far out of their way to add a feature ( I say bug) like Blur and expend resources on it that virtually not one likes…..  It seems a little crazy….

    • Granted

      That Alice from the Brady Bunch was a necrophiliac in real life? And that she always ate a bowl of Corn Flakes after having a wild romp with a corpse?

  • Hey Moto, people dont want your shitty MotoBloat UI. Stop being stupid or you will remember what it like Post Razr fad

  • I’m tired of their excuse that it has to be permitted by Verizon. Look at LG and Samsung! Their devices are open on Verizon, why can’t yours be Moto?

  • Anonymous

    Maybe Sony should have hired Moto Dev’s to lock down their server’s from hackers.

    • tjhrulz

      Well moto has done a poor job keeping us out though haven’t they. Maybe they could team together to make an even worse locked bootloader 

      • Anonymous

        Not really. The bootloaders are still locked pretty tight. The DX is only now starting to see sign’s of full acesses after how long? I think they have done a pretty good job on that. All though not a job that I agree with.

        • Anonymous

          and it’s not really seeing full access just a full year of work arounds to put the bastard to sleep to run what we feel like, not that that really completely changes the game.

        • tjhrulz

          Well the thing is is we just get around the bootloader, the hackers did the same thing they just circumvented the security. So motorola would be worse than sony I think 

    • Tesseract 3

      Or maybe instead Moto should have Sony lock down Moto’s phones so lulzsec can unlock the bootloaders for us. 

      • Anonymous

        I really did LOL at that. That was great.

      • Anonymous

        Hah plus *1 🙂

      • syrenz

        Ha. Hilarious 😀

  • To be honest the biggest reason i wanted to root my D1 was to overclock the kernel and the Themes. As far as rooted apps go i am not using many of them and the ones i do use is cause the D1 needs alot of help keeping it from lagging. I don’t see these issues with the bionic so i will get the Bionic unlocked or locked. Just a matter of time before the dev community cracks it as well.

    • Jmikel222

      I somewhat agree, but in 18 months the Bionic will probably need the same help that the D1 needs now

      • Anonymous

        Not really. The bionic is much more future proof than the of Droid was. Way more memory, dual core, etc. I don’t think it will have the slowdowns like the Droid has although hopefully by then either moto unlocks the bootloader or the devs crack it with a similar method used on atrix? One can hope anyway.

  • tjhrulz

    🙁

  • Rperez076

    GIVE ME CYANOGENMOD FOR MY DX2 PLEASE!!!!

    • Granted

      Granted! Your wish was for a puppy that could do your taxes and bite girls that say “it’s not you, it’s me, and let’s be friends”, on command right?

      • Rperez076

        WELL ITS JUST WISHFUL THINKING….:- *SIGH*

  • MFG

    It could have the same lock as the OG Droid, though, couldn’t it?

  • Calumnium

    I personally love motorola phones, and i’m still going to get the bionic, but there really starting to wear down my patience to be honest

    • mtbhk44

      Agreed.  And while the average consumer doesn’t care, I do – and they said they would start unlocking the bootloader and so far they haven’t.  What are they waiting for?  Just tell us “Eff you, ROMing community, we’re not unlocking the bootloader, deal with it” rather than play of all these stupid games

      • Max

        They did. Atrix.

        • Anonymous

          Who gives a *bleep* about the Atrix though :)…

      • Anonymous

        Maybe it’s job security, I don’t know but. it’s a pain and if the other OEM’s fall through with unlocking thier devices with great specs and listening to the rooting/Android community then Moto can suck it!!!

      • Anonymous

        I guess Moto wasn’t lying when they said it was up to the carriers. As Max just pointed out. They did it with tha Atrix. Time to go to VZ then?

      • lol thisismyname

        There might be a much bigger contingent of ROM enthusiasts than you think – Clockwork is one of the highest selling apps of all time.

  • Anonymous

    Thank goodness Moto is looking out for me so i don’t accidentally brick my device.
    #sarcasm

  • Kierra

    This consumer doesnt care about this particular issue. Just give me my updates in a timely manner.

    • Anonymous

      “Just give me my update in a timely manner.”

      …then you actually do care about this issue; ‘cuz it’ll never happen

      …just sayin :-)…

    • Anonymous

      Yes the consumer does care about this issue. At least the male consumer does.

  • i think you ment droid 2 not droid inc 2 😉

    • Kierra

      I thought the HTC Inc 2 was locked…

    • disregard ^^ this

  • Dorian

    look  this  android  t-shirt    for  android  fanboy ,   http://mrgreenrobot.spreadshirt.fr/

  • Rperez076

    BOOOOO LOCKED BOOTLOADER!!!!

  • Hello Moto

    More like Goodbye Moto

  • Trdracer21

    that a nice looking phone

    • Granted

      Be dat gud phown i dun tink tooz yeus i dooz.

    • Anonymous

      Yeah, it’s surprisingly sexy from the back, then looking at the front I was reminded why I originally thought it was kind of ugly.

  • Trey Motes

    Even the OG Droid came locked… the question is, is it encrypted like DX/D2?

    • Anonymous

      “It’s not “unlockable” like the Motorola Xoom. Beyond that, I have no
      idea how hard it might be to unlock. Not a topic we entertain on this
      site in general.”  From Moto Forum manager

  • Anonymous

    damnit they need to get there sh*t together

    • Granted

      They sure do! And then roll it into a massive ball and slam it into Paris Hilton’s gimp eye!

  • Goblueboy

    Did you really expect Motorola to unlock something without a fight?