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DROID RAZR HD Developer Edition Available Now for $599

Tinkerers, get your wallets ready. The DROID RAZR HD Developer Edition is now available from Motorola. If you are interested in an unlocked bootloader combined with a Motorola product, something that hasn’t happened in a while on a Verizon phone, this is your option. For $599, this phone and a world of hacking can be yours.

We should point out that it won’t ship until the week of 10/22. There is no MAXX version of the developer edition.

Via:  Motorola

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  • http://noelcohen.webstarts.com/ RisaRichardson

    Will it come out though, there was assume to be an unique Razr Dev versions too, and they never came out.

  • DW

    Sorry for a newbie question. I really like the form factor of the Razr M (4.5+ screens are too big). I’m not interested in writing custom ROMs but want to be able to update with the latest updates from Google. I know the new Nexus phones are coming next week. If it turns out they are all giant, will I be able to update the Dev Razr M easily, once unlocked, or will it be a lot of work?

  • Arthur Malachevsky

    Please, share… Anyone knows, is it compatible with another carriers abroad U.S. ?

  • http://twitter.com/kanagadeepan Kanaga Deepan N

    Unless one don’t want to miss their Unlimited data plan on Verizon, Dev Edition are almost pointless… It is actually applying salt to the wound, to those friends who have been waiting for Motorola phones with Unlockable bootloaders…

  • Barkley Fan

    If they didn’t care, we wouldn’t be discussing developer edition phones. That said, bootloader doesn’t mean that much. I’m running JB on my “locked” Maxx right now. Dan has already rooted the HD firmware. Kernel development is the only real advantage of an unlocked device, thanks to a VERY active Moto developer community. We have everything else already, including TWRP recovery. I posted up because there is some very inaccurate rhetoric in the comments here. As a Moto owner, my only real concern going forward is the battery fade I am experiencing on an 8 month old device. Looking around, my options are expensive/complex to remedy what should be an easy and inexpensive fix.This is the only thing that makes a Dev edition (maxx or not) seem like a less desirable investment.

  • Sporttster

    If you want a Dev edition MAXX HD, I would suggest doing what I did with my Razr. I bought the upgrade batt to Maxx, and now I have a Maxx. Get the regular HD Dev, get the upgraded batt, install yourself as I did and WALA, ya got yourself a MAXX HD Dev edition! Problem is you should prob wait a bit till the ridiculously high $599 comes down cause it ran me about $160 to upgrade. I got my Razr cheap enough to make it work out.

    • Arthur Malachevsky

      but Razr HD’s battery(and HD MAXX) is not replacable, no?

  • timdg

    at the original announcement they said there would be a developer edition of the MAXX – I even signed up for updates on it, what happened to it?

    • timdg

      Per “Carl” at motorola when asked about the maxx hd developer edition – “hoping to have it available soon but no specific dates yet”

  • MooleyBooleyTroll

    I’d like to have a Dev edition but I need the extra battery life so I went for the Maxx HD.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1676447393 Michael Woods

    REALLY!!!! No Maxx version! WOW Galaxy S3 2100 mAh stays with me ftw

  • Detonation

    No warranty is a deal breaker. If something like your power button or headphone jack dies through no fault of your own modding, you’re stuck with a nice $650 defective device.

    • nhizzat

      Squaretrade?

    • http://twitter.com/Belatukadro Justtyn Hutcheson

      we actually have no idea how they will handle pure hardware defects. While it is true your warranty is void, that just means they are not obligated to repair/replace your device, not that they won’t do it.

  • radiohead14

    it’s a shame that the verizon logo is still there. i wish the dev phones were completely unmolested by carriers.

    • http://twitter.com/Belatukadro Justtyn Hutcheson

      If it is DROID branded and runs on VZW’s network, it will have carrier branding. I expect the unlocked version will be unlockable like the RAZR i, but it won’t run on Verizon either.
      Let’s face it, if you’re the largest carrier in the nation, you get preferential treatment. Them’s the breaks.

  • Emilio Fahr

    Could you get the regular on contract and subsidized, sell it and then buy the dev edition outright without losing money?

    • thedonxr

      but with losing your unlimited data… so yes you would be losing money…

      • Emilio Fahr

        That’s what I was thinking. I’m waiting for the Nexus announcement Ideally I could buy it from the Play Store and be able to use it with Verizon.

  • thedonxr

    They should just make a Nexus MAXX…. Same as the dev edition RAZR HD MAXX but with the big battery and no Verizon branding messing up the front.

    • http://twitter.com/Belatukadro Justtyn Hutcheson

      I’m sure there will be an international version that’s unlockable with Moto-only brading, but it won’t be able to run on Verizon’s network.

    • C-Law

      Too bad they won’t. They wouldn’t release this dev edition if there was just going to be a Nexus version around the corner

  • schoat333

    I still don’t understand why they have to create two versions. Why not just create one thats unlock-able, and void the warranty when its unlocked.

    If the dev community adopts this, it will be my next phone. I’ll wait and see tho.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=500698751 Paul Hansen

      Verizon won’t directly sell a model with an unlocked BL so Motorola provides it on their end for those who want it.

      • schoat333

        This one isn’t unlocked either, its simply unlockable, at which point the warranty is void.

  • http://twitter.com/tarund TarunD

    We should donate money to a developer to buy this, create a rooting solution and spread to the masses for everyone to enjoy.

    • http://twitter.com/Belatukadro Justtyn Hutcheson

      djrbliss has broken his vow and created a root method for the new slew of Moto devices. However, he does suggest that anyone who’s serious about controlling their device should purchase the Dev Editions, or a device that does not require exploits to gain root access, and I agree with him.
      Also, once someone creates a repo of the RAZR M or HD Dev edition binaries and files for compilation, its not at all difficult for the dev of any particular ROM to build a version for these devices. And once the source code for the kernel is released, that will be simple to modify as well.

  • La2da

    What Verizon forgot to tell the FCC is that unlockable bootloaders are harmful to their network unless they get full friggin’ price for it and yet they still bill you as if you are on contract.

    • Benjamin Sicard

      Motorola is selling these “developer” phones, not Verizon.
      Also, not having a contract doesn’t mean that you get billed any differently by the carrier, it means that you don’t have a contract.

      • http://twitter.com/Belatukadro Justtyn Hutcheson

        I think La2da is saying that Verizon’s statement regarding bootloaders as a security risk is undermined by their allowance of the GNex and Dev Editions of the SGS3/Razr M/Razr HD on their network. But, then again, the masses aren’t supposed to notice that kind of thing…

      • La2da

        Thanks for the heads ups!

  • TheWenger

    Real tinkerers would try to unlock the regular RAZR HD bootloader.

    • KleenDroid

      They have tried ever since the D1… Other manufacturers have leaked unlocked bootloaders or make things much easier. Motorola made the statement that if you want to tinker with the phone buy from a different manufacturer.

      I have ever since.

      Google has now also shown they have no intention of changing this policy. Who knows what the future will bring but for now they want no part of us.

      • http://twitter.com/Belatukadro Justtyn Hutcheson

        Google has shown that they want Motos as developer-friendly device. Hence these new editions, in addition to the Photon Q, RAZR i, and international RAZR HD / MAXX, are all unlockable.
        The issue is that Verizon still has some ridiculous notion that they need bootloaders to be locked on their network for “security”. Since they control CDMA technology, they have final say on what device can access that network. The compromise seems to have been (since the GNex release): “we will not subsidize any unlockable device, but if you want to you can sell an unlockable version yourself, for however much you want, and we’ll allow it.”

        • KleenDroid

          I disagree with you. If Google wanted to be developer friendly they would be like Samsung and HTC which are far more friendly. There are many phones from those manufactures that can be fully unlocked. No Motorola phones on Verizon can be fully unlocked since the D1.

          Their bootloader unlock program is a joke and the silly option that was started before Google took ownership. Google could have done better if they wanted to.

  • ddevito

    I love how these things are called Developer phones when developers can write code just fine on regular locked down phones. lol. All you need is adb

  • http://twitter.com/DavisDarvish Davis Darvish

    you know whats sad? EVen as Googorola they still have no pull at verizon and are smacked around being told what to do. grow a pair of balls google …. they HAVE to allow the phone on their network because of the open access rules so build it and sell it yourself … heck you can even subsidize the price if you sell the phone with the contract

    • http://twitter.com/jdhas jdhas

      Yes, but if they act like that, Googorola won’t get Verizon’s billions of dollars of ad muscle pushing their shiny new phone to the masses. VZW may “have” to allow the phone on their network, but they certainly DON’T have to try to sell it.

    • http://twitter.com/marker1015 MrSix

      There’s a difference between brave and stupid. Pissing off your biggest customer is definitely the latter.

    • http://twitter.com/Belatukadro Justtyn Hutcheson

      While Verizon is required to allow the device on its LTE network (C-Block regulations), there is no such obligation for them to authorize it on their CDMA network. So, you would have a pure LTE data device (yay! high data usage!) with absolutely no voice, mms, or 1X to 3G connection. So, really, Verizon does have OEMs by the balls, at least until they roll out VoLTE, but I doubt that will happen anytime soon so they can keep their control over the devices.

  • Lenny Dykstra

    will there be a maxx version?

    • Greg Morgan

      Nope, only the HD.

      • Mrhug3

        Disregard… Must read before commenting.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=500698751 Paul Hansen

          Doesn’t look like it. The difference in power is only ~800mah this time around though. It’s not ~1500 (basically double) like last time.

          • Mrhug3

            Yeah, just read tweets to other users. Still a little disappointing though.

    • CapnShiner

      The Developer Edition devices are just that. They are intended to be used for developing software, not as a daily driver. In a lab environment, battery life doesn’t matter unless the software being developed is being tested for battery usage. The bigger battery is unnecessary.

  • CRH45

    there is no need to buy the dev edition. How many developers do you think are actually going to buy it?

    mind,money=blown

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=500698751 Paul Hansen

      Anyone who wants to keep their unlimited data with VZW has to pay full retail. Other than warranty, why not buy this instead of the VZW unit. I’d rather give my money directly to Motorola anyway since it’s the same price. That’s me anyway.

      • http://twitter.com/Belatukadro Justtyn Hutcheson

        The warranty is only void once it is unlocked. Until then, its just like the regular RHD, with the option of unlocking :-D

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=500698751 Paul Hansen

          I was more referring to the accidental damage warranty offered by VZW that you won’t have an option to here.

      • LiterofCola

        Exactly, I’m going to have to pay full retail anyways, might as well buy the developer edition, just for shits n’giggles.

    • nhizzat

      Let’s see, buy subsidized and hope someone can unlock the bootloader or pay full retail and type fastboot oem unlock. Tough choice.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001623230993 David Davidson

        Get subsidized version, ebay it for near full retail, and buy dev version at only a slight premium.

        • nhizzat

          Or you could just buy the dev version, keep your unlimited data, and not have to worry about whether or not a dev will find a way to unlock the bootloader.

  • T4rd

    I’m not sure there’s much point to buying “dev editions”. If you have to buy a $600+ dev edition phone just to put custom (AOSP) ROMs and kernels on it, how much dev support do you think it will get since it’s not going to be nearly as popular as phones that are unlockable in the first place (such as the Nexus phones, Galaxy S line or even HTC phones) at subsidized prices?

    I just don’t see much point if you’re not a developer yourself and/or there’s not going to be much 3rd party developer support.

    • sc4fpse

      “Dev Edition” typically means that the device is being targeted at actual developers, not those who just want to flash custom roms onto their phones. There are still plenty of reasons for actual developers to be interested in it.

      • T4rd

        Yeah, I understand that. But even if you’re a developer, why would you rather buy this Dev Edition phone when you’re not going to have much of an audience to share/collaborate your work with and you also have a choice of other phones that are already unlockable without the need to have special dev editions (though the S3 has a dev edition, they were able to break the signed bootloader on the subsidized version, therefore negating the need for a dev edition and allowing shared support for the S3 across all carriers).

        Unless you just want a Moto phone and like this design, I just don’t really get why you would choose to buy this over the competition, esp. considering there are phones that have been on the market for several months now with the same internal hardware (S4 SoC).

        • sc4fpse

          You’re assuming that “developer” here means someone who is tinkering with the Android OS, making custom roms, making custom themes, etc. People who make Android apps are developers, and they would have an interest in making sure that their applications work on stock, unadulterated Android. Putting stock Android on this would allow them to test their applications on a phone with current-generation specifications.

          • Aardvark99

            But given the fact that Moto doesn’t provide a stock ROM I also don’t see the point. Sure someone can make one, but like @t4rd said how much support is there really going to be (ROM developers go where the audience is)? Seems like you’d be more likely to have bad results testing an app on a half-baked “stock” rom then testing on a custom rom made by the device manuf.

        • brando56894

          Maybe a dev wants to get a head start on the custom roms if/when the bootloader is cracked. IIRC the older Motorola devices had 256 bit AES encryption, which is damn near impossible to break. I don’t think the S3 had protection that tough considering it was cracked only about a month after it launched on VZW.

    • KleenDroid

      I do think you are correct that other manufacturers are much more developer community friendly. Many Samsung and HTC phones can actually be fully unlocked and people can buy them subsidized.

      What shocks and surprises me is that Google has continued to keep Motorola a poor option after they purchased them. I really want to buy a Motorola phone but cannot see anything in the future that shows that Google or Motorola want any of us back. I would think that Google was smart enough to see how much excitement the Droid 1 provided and that Motorola threw it all away.

      Oh well… I have had my G-Nex going on a year now and am beginning to think about its replacement. Very sad that Motorola doesn’t have an option. I guess we will see what comes out in November and December. More than likely I will end up buying another Samsung or HTC phone.

      • hfoster52

        I think this might be one of the last of the old Moto phones and that we will start seeing more Google Moto phones after this one. There is a 6 months to a year dev cycle on these devices so this has been in the works before the sale was complete.

        I am sure google is behind Moto selling these phones unlocked and pushing to get the more of the boot loaders unlocked on some of the older models.

        • http://twitter.com/Belatukadro Justtyn Hutcheson

          The problem with unlocking older devices is likely two-fold: contracts with the carriers stating that the bootloader will not be unlocked, and the security features activated in the OMAP chipsets is not amenable to a remote unlock.
          Motorola has already stated that their unlock tool will not be available for older devices. I have the odd feeling that is one reason for the $100 credit for non-upgradable devices.

      • brando56894

        I have the Rezound and while it is fully unlockable now, it took about 6 months for it to get that way. I was actually thinking about getting the Maxx Dev edition, but considering it doesn’t exist IDK if I’ll drop $600 on the RAZR HD. I feel you are also correct about the state of third party software on it, where it wouldn’t matter that much to me because I typically only run pure CM or AOKP builds if they are available (this is what I do on my N7 but I run non-team compiled versions for my Rezound since it isn’t officially supported by either team). Who knows, maybe Moto has loosened their grip on the bootloader and it will be easily crackable this time around. Another thing is if these Dev editions don’t sell well they may just add them to their new unlock site so anyone who wants to can unlock, but that may be wishful thinking.

        • KleenDroid

          All Motorola would have to do is “accidentally” leak an unencrypted bootloader like Samsung did with the S3. That would change everything…

          • http://twitter.com/kanagadeepan Kanaga Deepan N

            Yes… That will be good for all for us (except BigRed)… But MOTO is acting like a carriers’ b!tch always.. It is more painful to see this, even after Google became Boss of Motorola…

    • CapnShiner

      You’re forgetting one very important piece of information: The device and software on the developer edition is almost exactly the same as the regular version. The only difference is the bootloader. Software developed on the RAZR HD Developer Edition will work just fine on the regular RAZR HD. The only exception to that would be ROMs and once someone figures out how to hack the locked bootloader, it will be open season. Only one dev will have to buy the dev edition and use it to hack the regular version but the fact that this is even an option will speed up the whole process.

  • KleenDroid

    I do appreciate that this is an option. Those of us that have to pay full price anyway to keep our unlimited will at least have this as an option. I will only buy a phone that is unlocked and to be honest I would love to have a Moto phone again.

    I only wish people would buy these in large enough numbers to have a good developer following. If there are no more Verizon Nexus phones this might be a good option. But I would be very upset if I got this and then Verizon came out with another Nexus.

    • http://twitter.com/misterE33 Mr E

      agreed on all points, even the let-down of this not being the maxx

    • Aleem Qureshi

      its highly unlikely that verizon will get another nexus phone after all the restrictions they placed on it to keep it from being a true nexus device

      • http://twitter.com/Belatukadro Justtyn Hutcheson

        As far as I know, the only “restriction” on the VZW GNex is that the software has to pass their (lengthy) testing period before it is pushed OTA. All carrier branded devices work the same way. However, inevitably the OTA build will “leak” shortly, and otherwise it is ~2-3 months before the update is pushed, which compared to 4-6 months for OEM devices is still pretty damned fast.

  • r0lct

    A little OT but the full retail between regular and Maxx is $50 but they the subsidized price difference between the phones is $100. More Verizon love.

    • hfoster52

      Its like a car. You have the MSRP, Invoice, and the real price.

      • r0lct

        I think the cleaner car analogy is to look at subsidy as a rebate. So clearly Verizon is giving a smaller rebate for the Maxx than the regular HD. That of course is their right, I just think it’s just another example of them trying to milk their customers as much as possible.

        • Greg

          agreed – They got to f*(k you any way they can.

  • http://twitter.com/devolore Josh Allen

    Still unconvinced of the whole “Developer Edition” idea (why not just allow the user to unlock any phone?) but props to Moto for coming out with it relatively close to the HD’s release instead of a month from now.

  • NYAvsFan

    Give me a Razr HD Maxx Developer Edition and I’m on board. Until then GNex it is.

    • xnay

      Same for me. It’s good there’s one company that takes battery life seriously.

    • eddieonofre

      Razr Maxx HD developer edition that is what I want too

      • michael arazan

        Will it come out though, there was suppose to be an original Razr Dev editions too, and they never came out.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=500698751 Paul Hansen

      I felt the same way. But I’m actually caring a little less now that the difference between them is ~800mah. The old non-maxx was 1780 vs 3300. Now it’s 2530 vs 3300 which isn’t nearly as stark a change. I’ll try it out. It certainly will be an improvement over my existing RAZR

  • Mrhug3

    Where is the Maxx?

  • Bert336

    LOL @ verizon