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Friday Poll: Is a Snapdragon 821 in the G6 or Any Other 2017 Flagship a Dealbreaker?

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Word has slowly slipped out through media channels that Qualcomm’s newest Snapdragon 835 processor may not make it into the first wave of flagships for 2017. In fact, an HTC exec already said in an interview that we shouldn’t expect any of the phones coming to Mobile World Congress at the end of February to have the 835, but that they are all likely to have the slightly older Snapdragon 821 from the end of 2016. Multiple reports have now suggested the same for LG’s G6.

We talked quite a bit about this topic on yesterday’s DL Show, but wanted to address it here as well. Basically, we want to know if the lack of a Snapdragon 835 in a new 2017 flagship is a dealbreaker for you?

To me, I don’t know that it is because the 821 is very good and the 835 may not even be offering that big of a performance boost, though we are fully expecting Samsung’s new Galaxy S8 line to launch with an 835. That’s a problem for other companies struggling to rise to former glory. It’s hard enough to compete with the marketing budget of Samsung, but nerds often care about the finer details like specs, and processor seems to rank up there as an important one.

So you tell us – is the lack of a Snapdragon 835 in a 2017 flagship a dealbreaker?

Is a Snapdragon 821 in a 2017 Flagship a Dealbreaker?

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  • Bay_Ranger

    The average user doesn’t even know that their phone has a processor. Looks are the most important feature to them. When I talk with friends and associates, they are far more likely to ask “What colors does it come in?” than “How does it perform.” Those of us reading here are far from the norm as per mobile products are concerned. I believe that LG is wise in deciding to concentrate on making a good looking phone.

  • chris_johns

    of course it is…how else will fan boys fight without this type of fuel

  • Brian

    I work in thr cell phone industry, and 95% of thr people I sell phones wouldnt care less. They just want a good phone and a good camera. Nit picking over processor os not their concern.

  • KR

    No, it’s not a deal-breaker. Unless the chipset actually has some notorious issues, like the 810, then I don’t really care if it’s a year old. Even the 810 in my outgoing 6P wasn’t so bad, and that’s a very nice and capable device, today.

    While I’m sure the 835 is objectively better, the 821 is fine (the Pixel XL takes everything I can throw at it). More critical is how the rest of the phone is built and what features it has. If everything else was satisfactory or good, but it came with the 821, it just wouldn’t be a deal-breaker, especially if I was in need of something new.

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  • editorinchimp

    On an off-topic note, since I haven’t seen it mentioned elsewhere here, is the top 1/4″ of the S8 screen being hard coded to display “SAMSUNG” a deal breaker for anyone?

  • jimv1983

    The real deal breaker for me at this point is insufficient battery size. Anything less than 3,200mAh on a 1080p screen and anything less than 3,800mAh on a QHD screen and I’m out.

  • RocketFeathers

    I’m a bit pissed that Samsung gets first dibs. If this crap keeps up, its going to turn into Apple, Samsung flagships, and Chinese mainland (ie no Tawainese) others. No more HTC, LG, Sony, etc. Not sure where to put whatever Google decides to call their phones, nor who will make them.

    • Frettfreak

      they helped design AND manufacture the chip. How is that anything but fair? your not looking at it from their angle.

  • Noel

    It won’t be a deal breaker but I will prefer my 2017 flagship to have the current top chipset.
    From what I have seen thus far, it seems the G6 will be one hell of a phone…it would have been even better if it came with the SD835 chipset. The addition of Google Assistant will help blunt some of the effects of not having SD835. But the big one for me will be battery capacity since it won’t be removable…I hope they go BIG on battery.

  • chris pinkston

    If I’m buying a new phone I’d like to have the newest tech available while I’m buying, that’s just me. That said nothing wrong with a sd821. I’ve seen the single core Geekbench score of 1800+ with that chip. The highest leaked sd835 single core sore I’ve seen was a little over 1900+. Not a big difference there but multi core was a bit better at 6000+ on the sd835 leak.
    I love stock Android though and the way it runs compared to skinned Android. I’ve decided to pass on the pixel and just keep my 6p for now. I’d like a sd835 powered phone but until the pixel 2 comes there probably won’t be a stock Android phone using the 835 anyway.

  • rj5555

    Not really a deal breaker but i prefer the exynos counterparts anyway

  • el sickness

    LG G6 better be 500 or lower

  • Howard Stern ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    I’m more concerned with price and better size.

  • Cj

    Do your research before writing a article, Samsung help make the chip, that’s why they are holding the 835 for the S8 .
    So unless a company wants to wait for the S8 to drop, they have no choice but to use the older chip…

  • Daishi

    Not really. The 821 is still a good performer. I have an 808 in my current phone and it still works just fine.

    • Rod

      LIAR!

      Current chips stop working after their successors are released. That’s a known fact.

  • Mike Gonzalez

    it is a dealbreaker cuz knowing how lame Android OEMs are, i bet they will make the same old excuse of “it’s not powerful enough to get the latest update” after 18 months

  • reggjoo

    I heard the real reason why, is that Samsung gobbled up the first orders for the 835. There’s not enough for anyone else. Since Qualcomm is using Sammy’s foundries for 10nm production, I can see why.

  • rebretz000

    The price better be slashed if they are using last year’s chip.

  • stevenswall

    It all depends on the battery life gains. Since manufacturers are incredibly unresponsive to consumer demand for better battery life and refuse to double the capacity by filling in the body out to the camera bump on many phones, I’d say that if Qualcomm can get 1.5-2x the life out of a battery, then I’d probably jump on the 835 bandwagon.

    • AngryBadger

      yeah, battery gains have been incremental at best. while other things have had some nice jumps. Shame really.

    • Frettfreak

      this is what i have been saying for a while too… just make the case extend to the camera hump and give me a freaking huge battery with the extra space!

  • T_Dizzle

    No but a phone with a screen that isn’t QHD and less than 6.2″ is.

  • ck125

    I think it is a deal breaker if they price the device like a high end flagship. If they use this chip and charge $500 I would say it is not a deal breaker. If I am going to fork out $600+ it better have the best available specs at the time.

    • LionStone

      Why does the value go down so much when the new phone with 821 will presumably still cost the same to build? I’ve never had a processor go out on any phone…anyway I don’t know where you get those numbers?

  • surethom

    The placement of the s8 finger print sensor is more of a deal breaker, I am torn between the Lg6 & S8 will have to wait & see.

  • John Quincy Adams

    No, because most morons don’t understand how a device is designed. Someone didn’t wake up at (name your favorite Android company) and decide to build a new device last month. Typically there are 6 months or more lead time before a device is completed and released. To say ‘it better have the 835’ shows complete and utter ignorance.

  • Bryan

    Where is the “depends” option? It depends on what the new chipset brings to the table. I will say the 821 in my Pixel XL seems to be doing just fine!

  • DanG

    Not a deal breaker as long as keep the device price lower than 835 devices

  • ChrisI

    I’d like to hear the reasons why people voted Yes

    • steadymobb

      Well, yes, because it’s 2017

      • ChrisI

        That’s still not a “why”

        • steadymobb

          Pixel won phone of the year on some sites last year. 2016. Phones will be using faster processors by April onwards of this year. 821 is not winning any awards in 2017.

          I’m sure LG themselves will even be coming out with a phone using the 835 later this year. I’d wait unless the G6 really blows you away

      • jimv1983

        It’s not even a full year. The Pixel came out with the Snapdragon 821 in October. The G6 is expected in March or April. That’s only 5-6 months.

    • Frettfreak

      because there wasnt a “depends on the price” option

  • TheDrunkenClam

    No.
    Running a skin (ie Touchwiz, Sense, etc) is a deal breaker.

  • Armorthane

    Based solely on processor speed it’s not a deal breaker for me. At this point any processor will run my software fine. Not into gaming on a phone, at least anything that takes any kind of serious processing power. What I do want is better battery life and if a newer processor will get me that then that could be the deal breaker. I read that the 835 should have around 20% less battery drain than the 821, not sure how that translates into SOT.

    • Bryan

      Agreed. If they can get even better battery life from the 835 than what I get from the 821 in my Pixel XL, I’ll be impressed. I’ve never had a phone that lasts me ALL day with my normal (somewhat heavy usage) like the Pixel XL does. Yesterday I took my Pixel XL off of the charger at 6 am and ran it until it powered itself off at 10:15 pm. I had 6 hours of screen on time, playing Clash of Clans through the day, taking phone calls, checking Facebook, etc. I literally had to keep pushing it to kill the battery. I wanted to just have at least one cycle where I ran it all the way down to “break in” the battery.

      I’m extremely impressed with what I get from the Pixel XL and the 821.

  • Marc Corvo

    It may be a marginal difference but for me I want the most horsepower I can get. I have to keep my phone for 2 years and a better chip means more likely updates and a better experience for the duration.

    • Fitzgerald42

      The great thing is, it won’t be marginal, it’s going to be big. The burst performance may occur lying be x percent, but it will be sustainable because of the 10nm circuitry and how the architecture of the chip was designed.
      The 835 is a big deal.

  • steadymobb

    It basically comes down to cost. If the G6 is the same price as the S6 – then YES the Soc does matter. If the G6 is substantially cheaper then it’s a different story.

    • Rod

      Why would a 2017 flagship be cheaper than a 2015 one?

      • steadymobb

        Ha whoops I have an S6 so my keyboard autocorrected. Meant s8

  • drewthebrave

    No. My Nexus 6 is still running strong with the 805. I don’t usually buy phones until a steep discount is available. Bought my N6 for $260 when the 6P came out. Value is my biggest concern. If an older phone gives me 90% of the performance at 50% of the cost, I’m pretty happy.

    • TheDrunkenClam

      With 7.1.1 the N6 is still a phenomenal phone.

      • Bryan

        Agreed! I just replaced my N6 with a Pixel XL and was surprised how little difference I felt in the snappiness of the UI between the two. Now the Pixel XL far surpasses it in other areas (camera and battery life), but speed and being lag free is pretty close.

  • Rod

    The issue is not how it will perform today. If even Snapdragon 800 devices are highly usable up to this day, it’s not a matter of performance, but future-proofing.

  • Leif Sikorski

    For me yes because they won’t support bluetooth 5. In the price range of a flagship device I want a hardware that’s up to date so I won’t care about new devices for the next 2 years.

  • Allen George

    Anyone who said no is CRAZY – the 835 takes less power so better battery life, and is way faster. 821 is a joke in comparison, on paper atleast.

    • Brian Himes

      What shows up on paper rarely translates into real life. Now I wouldn’t upgrade to an 821 from an 821

  • CabbageHeadCat.

    I think that with VR and AR in their infancy, you have a mother year before you would really be able to tell the difference. It’s minutia at this point. In a year or two, these damands will need to be met with more power. But for now it’s just braggadocio. Do it if you need it, but honestly the G6 seems like it will more than hold its own in real life experiences.

  • Averix

    If the power savings of the 835 is really as great as they’re touting, it is a huge deal. If the G6 is priced much lower than Samsung’s offerings, then it’s still relevant. Besides, most people have no clue what the chip is in the phone. They go by the name of the phone and the release date. They just assume it’s got the newest stuff in it. I even know people who think their budget phones have the newest stuff in it because it was just released. Consumers are stupid in a lot of cases.

  • Me

    Depending on the price, nothing minuscule is really a deal breaker.

  • steadymobb

    It WOULDN’T be a dealbreaker if the 835 wasn’t coming out a month after the Ultra and G6 – it just makes me want to wait and see how that one performs. Why buy old when the new is right around the corner? Obviously in real world tests, we will have to see just how snappy the 835 is but I’d like to wait and at least see.

  • Miguel Ortiz

    If you’re charging $500-$700 then yes. If you’re charging $400ish then no

  • Bonedatt

    Since we know it’s not the latest SoC we expect it to be priced accordingly.

    • Ismail Akram

      I wish HTC U Ultra was also priced accordingly :-p I’m fan of look on U ultra. that is all

  • Nick V

    It’s just my opinion, and how I feel, so that’s it. I believe it should be a deal breaker. Look what we saw with the Nexus 6p and Daydream. Now you have a 2017 phone with 2016 specs, and the next thing you know, your device isn’t compatible anymore because the SoC can’t handle it. Meanwhile, the rest of the Flagships are living the life.

    I can see both sides of the argument, and I agree with the other side, but my feelings is that you’re going to get screwed in the end.

  • gchahinian

    At this point, considering how powerful just about all the SD 8XX chips have gotten, I feel like there isn’t going to be much variation on every day usability of the phones. The main place where any difference will be found is when it comes to VR/heavy gaming. For me personally, 821/835 isn’t a dealbreaker by any means, however I’ve had both a G2 and a G4, and based on my prior experience with them, once my G4 craps out on me (for the 4th time now), I don’t think i’ll be going back to LG, unless they want to be real sweethearts and send me a G6 for my troubles 😀

    One thing I will say though, the G4’s camera STILL amazes me sometimes, that & the SD card support are the main reasons I haven’t jumped ship to a 1+, a 6P or a Note 5, gotta give LG props where props are due!

    • Bonedatt

      Yeah the LG G4 camera was ahead of its time. Great all around device, minus the boot loop issues it experienced.

      • gboybama

        American version is still bootloader locked, right? That was why I switched to Moto X Pure and never regretted it.

  • Matt Lang

    I think as long as the phone “experience” is good, I don’t need to have the newest processor.

  • blindexecutioner

    For me personally it is. I am using a Pixel with an 821. I typically buy a new phone every year. I would not buy another phone with an 821. For a general user I doubt you’d notice a difference in performance unless you ran a benchmark. Paying full price for a phone that has the same or worse specs than a phone released 6 months ago isn’t advisable though. For me personally the size of the display is what matters most along with an unlockable bootloader. If it is any larger than 5.2 I won’t touch it.

  • Ivo Shandor

    I’m just going to sit back on my silky smooth 6P and marvel at the people screaming about “future proof” while they buy a new phone every 6 to 12 months.

    • jimv1983

      The Nexus 6P seemed like a good phone but the size, manufacturer and battery were deal breakers.

      • Ivo Shandor

        All subjective opinion. The size is perfect for me, the phone I really well built and the battery lasts me from 6am to 11pm every day with at least 20% battery left when I plug it in at night.

        • jimv1983

          I agree. I was just mentioning why it was a deal breaker for me.

          For me one handed use and comfortable pocketability are high priority. With average size hands for a male 6 feet tall that isn’t possible.

          For battery life it depends on usage. The battery life of the Nexus 6P would probably fit me just fine like 60-70% of the time.

          It’s the other 30-40% of the time that would be trouble. For example, a Saturday in San Francisco going to breakfast, going to a baseball game, dinner, other activities. Off the charger by 8am. Streaming music, streaming video, camera, GPS, mobile data, possible less than excellent cell signal, 40% screen brightness and sometimes higher when in direct sunlight, Facebook, browsing, texting, etc. Getting back to a charger at 1am. That’s 17 hours off the charger and 5-6 hours screen on time with heavy use. A QHD screen with only a 3,450mAh battery just won’t cut it. Under the above mentioned conditions my Nexus 5X gets me maybe 2.5-3 hours screen on time over 10 hours. No way in hell would a phone with a QHD screen and only a 3,450mAh get double the screen on time and 7 more hours of standby.

          Another example is an all day concert in a park with not that great cell coverage for 13 hours (16 hours if you include travel).

          If your heaviest usage would be covered by then great. Mine wouldn’t. Although I don’t think any phone would. I’ll just have to keep carrying a battery pack with me on long days of heavy usage and I HATE that.

          • Ivo Shandor

            I gotcha. I’m so used to people stating their opinions as clear-cut, indesputable fact that I just assume nowadays. Apologies for that.
            I’m a moderate user at most for sure. On rare occasion I may enter that “heavy user” catagory (IMO) that you’re describing. My SoT in a normal day is probably less than 2 hours. I’m 6’2 and have large hands, but I wouldn’t say they’re XL.
            As far as battery life goes, I wouldn’t sleep on the 6P though. I understand what you’re saying about the QHD screen and battery size. However, I got both my daughter’s 5X’s and they both want my phone because they say it lasts way longer than their phones do. They’ve said this on many occasions. If we’re out somewhere and they don’t have access to a plug they’ll sometimes borrow my phone to play games and stuff on. Maybe you’ve already tried a 6P and have already proved that the 5X is better for your use? IDK. My experience has been the opposite though. With the same users hammering on it, it seems that the 6P lasts longer. That’s just my personal experience though.
            From your comment about your super heavy use, I would have to agree that no phone is going to handle that much and not have the battery drained quickly. Although people have said that the Moto Z Play has absolutely absurd battery life. In a good way. That me be something to look into for you. Also, don’t forget about airplane mode. When I go on vacation in the mountains of West Virginia I use it often and I have gotten some very impressive battery life out of my 6P. It works especially well when you already know which areas have service and which are spotty. I’ll leave it in airplane mode when I know reception is spotty or nil and turn it on briefly when I go into town and know I’ll get strong service. I’ve had a full charge last days and days this way. Didn’t really use the phone when it was in airplane mode other than snapping pics and shooting some video.
            A question for you real quick before I go. You mentioned in your original comment about the manufacturer (Huawei) being a deal breaker for you. I’m curious why this is? I knew nothing about Huawei before I got my 6P but I have been VERY impressed with the build and quality of it. So much so that I’m strongly considering a Huawei watch because I believe they will probably have the best quality of any smartwatch manufacturer thus far.

          • jimv1983

            Probably 70% of the time I have similar use to you. Maybe 2 hours screen on time on my 5X. It’s the other 30% of the time that is the problem.

            Based on my owning a Nexus 5X and limited experience with the Nexus 6P and talking to several people who own one as well as battery life reviews of both phones my best guess of why your 6P seems to last much longer than the 5X’s your daughters have is because of usage. Under the same usage the 6P isn’t much better than the 5X in battery life.

            Phones designed by Chinese companies just tend to be more cheaply made. Part of it is external build quality and part of it is the internal components. Who makes the battery, RAM, charging port, headphone jack, connectors, volume/power buttons etc? The Chinese companies will often cheap out on those parts resulting in higher chance of faulty buttons and posts, phones dying because of faulty batteries, RAM, etc.

            For the 6P it might be OK because even though Huawei designed and build the phone Google did have influence so Google might have set stricter standards. The few Nexus 6Ps I held seemed well made but that was unlike other Huawei phones I’ve used. Still, not sure if I’d risk it and certainly not without insurance.

  • eilegz

    well if its priced 400 or below…. but knowing the OEMS they are going to charge an iphone price…

  • Zhibo Wu

    Sorry but 821 is not enough on Java rendering, the snapdragon is already very slow on web loading compare to Apple or samsung SOC. the sunspider of snapdragon 821 is twice slow of A10, and yes it does load twice slow in real world, just load droidlife or engadget on iphone 7 and see the different.

  • SonofaButch

    Other than those who refuse to buy anything but the latest and greatest, I don’t see how you can answer this without knowing the difference in performance, battery life, etc.

    • Ivo Shandor

      because this is a tech website and most people on here are going to know things like what the SoC is. So they will not accept anything less than bleeding edge. The other 95% of consumers that walk into a retailer won’t care. They’ll walk over to a Samsung phone and see how beautiful the display is and buy it after trying it out for 5 minutes. Or the sales person will recommend an iPhone to them. And they’ll be perfectly happy.

  • s0uth

    Only thing I think that would help 821 devices would be the price. No way I’m going to pay flagship price for last year’s chip, actually not even a year. Lol.

    • jak_341

      Knowing Android’s reputation for updates, anything short of bleeding edge is a risk of getting little to no support in a year or year and a half.

    • John Quincy Adams

      That chip you whine about was the best on the market when it was released and I challenge you to find a faster device than the Pixel.

  • jak_341

    Yes. The LG G6 will priced at a 2017 flagship price. Realistically, it’s a mid to late 2016 device.

  • Aaron

    Any phone launching in 2017 with an SD821 SoC is unlikely to offer any features to make it more compelling than a heavily discounted 2016 device with an 820 or 821. Even the S7 is likely to be available much cheaper with all the features 2017 SD821 flagships will be introducing, like waterproofing. Why would anyone pay flagship prices for that?

  • Shadowstare

    Is it a deal breaker? No. Is it disappointing? Yes, and it will effect my choice for my next smartphone.

  • needa

    I will buy the fastest and cleanest Android phone available. Whichever SOC that is. Still checked no because I have no plans of buying right now. No way will I be buying 821 when I do.

    • Ivo Shandor

      judging by the first sentence in your statement, just plan on buying the newest Pixel phone then. No need to even worry about it.

      • needa

        Oneplus is faster. And a LOT cheaper.

  • Bigmatt503

    I’m using a Nexus 6p with the second generation 810 and its fast!! How much faster can a phone realistically be?
    Will I buy it? Not after the g4 debacle.

    • Ivo Shandor

      you must be new here? lol. Agree with you, love my 6P

  • Person Dude

    It’s a demerit for sure, but not a deal breaker. Specs aren’t everything, I love the SD625 in my phone much more than any other flagship SOC I’ve tried, SD810 and SD820 included.

  • Chris

    I dunno, an 835 is like,14 better than the 821.

  • Good_Ole_Pinocchio
    • droidbeat

      55% to 45% now. More like it.

  • Derek Ant

    I wouldn’t call it a deal breaker since the SD821 is a very capable SOC. However in the long term I think this may deeply lower the value of non Samsung devices as a whole for the first half of 2017. Samsung on top of already having the brand recognition will objectively have the most powerful Android phone on the market at the time. More conscious consumers may just hold onto 2016 devices until the 835 is widely available.

    I do think now more than ever these devices will need to bring it to compete with the S8. They better either undercut, smoke Samsung in a key area (battery/camera/storage) or market the hell out of their devices with a key standout feature.

  • Asmodai

    I voted yes but that’s mainly because I already have a phone with an 820. I’m not buying a whole new phone to go from 820 to 821, there just isn’t enough of a difference so it’s a deal breaker. That said if I had a pre-820 phone of any kind and no OEM had a 835 out when I was looking the 821 is a perfectly fine SoC that I’d likely be happy to upgrade to.

  • Bob Allen

    I’m quite happy with my Pixel with it’s 821. Besides, I only gave just gave up my Nexus 6P with it’s 810 so I’ll worry more about software than hardware.

    • Big EZ

      Is the Pixel drastically better than the 6P? I’ve only had the 6P for a few months, but it is terrible.

      • Aaron

        My Pixel doesn’t overheat or throttle even close to as bad as my 6p did.

        • Big EZ

          Finally, someone that doesn’t praise it just because it’s a Nexus. This is my issue as well. Because it has a small battery that’s not removable I have to stay tethered to a charger, and that causes a bunch of heat. Then because of the heat the phone bogs down.

          • Aaron

            Hey, don’t get me wrong. I have been a Nexus fan for a long time. But reality is what it is. My 6p is curved from being in my front pants pocket. I definitely loved my N6 more than my 6p. And of course the battery life was nothing to brag about. I’d say the same thing about the battery life of my Pixel.

          • dustin h.

            Pixel or Pixel XL? I’m extremely impressed with the XL’s battery life. I average 8 hours screen on time over a 48 hour period. Usually on wifi, and i don’t play any games.

          • Aaron

            Pixel. Usually get between 3 and 4 hours SOT. But that’s only half the story. Just seems like even if I’m having a light use day I still need a top off in the afternoon to make it to bedtime.

          • dustin h.

            yeah that sucks, i thought the fhd screen might help to offset the smaller battery. i keep my brightness set on auto with the slider a little less than half way across. have you tried turning the brightness down a bit?

          • Aaron

            Yeah usually about 2/3 brightness. Much less and I really can’t see the screen in sunlight.

      • Nayners

        In my experience with both, I would say that the Pixel is considerably better than the 6P. And I absolutely loved the 6p.

  • AngryBadger

    Most phones have reached a pretty good performance level now. It is about the whole package for me (and as others have pointed out). Battery, camera, sd-card, blah blah blah. Another good point that sc0rch3d brought up is how are these companies pricing their installment plans… the average consumer is going to look at that monthly payment + down payment over everything else. So if LG wants to compete, then it better be lower than Samsung’s.

  • jer85008

    I think it’s really more of an “it depends”.
    I’m still using my N5x, so I’ll definitely need an upgrade this year but can probably wait until the Pixel 2 comes.

    I don’t think the 835 will have a tremendous effect on battery life, as the screen is much more of a factor than the processor.
    A few hundred mAH larger battery would mitigate any advantage with little downside for size/weight.

    All that being said, I think that unless I was really desperate to upgrade in the next few months I would wait until Q3 to have a picture of all major flagships for the year.

    Just my $.02

  • burkett375

    I think it comes down to availability. If it’s available, then yes… But the rumors that Samsung is hoarding them (which sucks) is understandable

  • dsignori

    Silly. Except for a slight increase in battery life maybe, no one is gonna be able to tell any difference in modern phones between the 2 during normal usage. Certain rare exceptions may exist, but it is pretty silly to not buy a phone because it has an 821 (regardless of price, that too is a silly argument IMO).

  • Benoit Bourdua

    Depends on impact on battery life.

    If similar it’s likely no biggie.

  • sc0rch3d

    The bottom line is that our opinion doesn’t matter. What matters is what happens when the average Joe/Sue walks into the store and sees….. “Oh I can get an S8 for 27 per month or LG for 28 per month….I’m going the cheaper route.”

    • Mike

      Funny but absolutely true, either that or the fact that the S8 looks prettier with its glass back versus the G6 with it’s metal back.

      • Frettfreak

        i would feel more comfortable running without a case with metal. thats completely a subjective opinion. i dont like the fact at all that my entire s7e is glass. its slippery and fragile.

        • Mike

          That’s one of the main reasons I traded my S7E in for a V20. The glass just felt so fragile, and I felt anxious every time I put the phone down. The V20 is the exact opposite, I can throw this thing around and not worry a lick about it.

    • dustin h.

      I wonder if Joe/Sue are friends with John/Jane?

  • Patrick Smithopolis

    I think the only people who would have a problem with that are gamers.

  • Tyler Durden

    If you’re paying $700 for an 821 and not the same price for an 835, you’re insane. But hey, it’s your money to throw away.

  • SkullOne

    Not deal breaker as long as the device costs less than a device that has the 835. And not just by $50. If Galaxy S8 is $700 then LG G6 better be $550 or less.

    • Mike

      Either that or they need to justify the high cost, if you are going to put in a lesser chip, beef up the rest of the phone with a bigger battery, bigger storage options, better camera, etc. to make it worth the cost.

  • Dominick White

    no, but if they price it like the HTC U then yes the 821 would be a deal breaker

  • Harold JP Castro

    I voted YES, but I think every manufacturer that wants to release something before/alongside the S8 don’t really have a choice because Samsung called dibs. So it’s either use last year silicon or not do anything at all until half of q2.

  • Buck

    It wouldn’t make it a bad phone… But being that I have a oneplus I just wouldn’t be interested in it for myself

  • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

    I don’t care. You have people complaining that they can’t get a Pixel XL in 2017 (with an 821) complaining about the G6 (with an 821). I had a Pixel for a while, 821 is perfectly fine. Even the 3t is considered phone or the end of year for some (with an 821)

    The problem I believe people have is cost. If they can get a phone that’s slightly more future proof with “better” specs… Then why should they pay the same price for a phone with late last year specs? It’s not really about the specs, it’s about the monetary worth of the device. If the G6 launches at $100 less than the S8, you’d see less complaining, for example.

    • Francisco Peña

      I think the G6 will have to be more than $100 under the S8 to stop the complaining. But other than that, you hit the nail on the head. Its the perception that at similar price points, you’d get more with the S8. Open that gap, and then the value factor comes into play… “You mean I can get most of the S8 features for $XXX less??? oh yeah!!”

      Now I go for the value, not the wow factor.

      • Tyler Durden

        Yeah I go for value too, get my money’s worth and that’s the 835. Not the 821.

    • Pay_with_your_PRIVACY

      it’s not about performance; 835 is not a 2X boost over 821.
      people want to buy THE NEWEST(WHICH IS SUPPOSEDLY BEST).

      that’s you shouldn’t sell a 2016 CPU in a 2017 flagship.

      • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

        My point is not about performance I’m talking about cost difference.

        • jimv1983

          The cost difference of the two chips is probably very small.

          • Frettfreak

            probably not. the 835 is pretty much done and waiting to be sold. the 821 is last years tech and probably is selling for a LOT less to deplete any remaining stock before they have to sell it for even less. LG probably got a screaming deal so late in the release cycle ordering these things.

          • jimv1983

            The Snapdragon 821 had a price of like $65. How much less do you think it would be now? Let’s say LG got it for $55 each which is a discount of about 15% and still only a savings of $10. I don’t think Qualcomm makes that much per chip to begin with and it certainly won’t sell at a loss. $10 isn’t much. Especially considering the price of phones.

            Even if you want to get really crazy and say LG would get the chip about half off(which is ridiculous) that’s still only $30. You think LG would sell the phone for more than $30 less than they would have if the newer chip was used? Of course not. Anymore than a $30 and that cuts into profits.

    • steadymobb

      You got rid of your Pixel?! You were such a staunch supporter

      • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

        Lol I know. It was just bad timing I figured that $900 would he better spent on the Holiday season. Then I figured I’d just wait and keep my 6p.

        • steadymobb

          Very wise choice – not worth $900

    • Fitzgerald42

      Actually, if I haven’t purchased a phone yet, and I was in the market for one, I’d wait until the pixel 2

    • jimv1983

      I think that’s why the general public really needs to know what the true cost is to make the device. That would bring the monetary worth of the device down which would hopefully bring down the price of phones.

  • Francisco Peña

    If I want the latest and greatest to say I have the latest and greatest, then yes, its a deal breaker. However, I care more about the experience, and the price.
    If the new LG will have waterproof, an sd card slot, and a lower price point, then great. I have had the G4 (liked except for the bootloop) and now the G5 and love it (the battery life is amazing for me), so I’d be cool with the G6 having the features above without the 835. Forme, it runs smooth, does what I need to without issues, and is as cheap as what I was paying for the G4 with TMo before.

    I can’t complain. I did want the S7Edge then the Note 7, but I’ll wait for maybe the S8 to come out to lower the S7/E down in price a bit, or wait for the Note 8.

  • Daniel Thomas

    I care about battery efficiency. I’m not sure the difference between the 821 and 835. Speed is not a huge concern for web browsing, Netflix, and music streaming apps I use. Most people will never use the full potential power of processors in phones or computers, but marketers sure know how to get us to believe we need the latest and most powerful to just run simple all’s and browse the web.

  • perfectalpha

    To me the answer is yes and it’s not even close. Are you getting a discount from the OEM on the lesser chip? Oh…you aren’t? Then yes it’s a deal breaker.

    If you went to purchase a car and you were getting charged the same amount for one with less power and less fuel economy versus one with superior power and fuel economy, the decision becomes a no brainer.

    • Francisco Peña

      In that case yet. and in the case if both phones will be $800, then yes. IF the G6 is $550 and the S8 is $800, I can deal with an 821.

      • perfectalpha

        At that price point I’d just get the superior phone. That’s me. If I’m going over $500, I’ll just get the best I can get. The payment plan difference will be less than $10 a month.

        It’s like folks buying a home. I’ll buy one for $250k but not $260k. The difference is like $15 a month in the grand scheme of things. Who gives a crap? If the house is better, buy the better house.

        • Mike

          That’s great if money isn’t a problem for you, if you are on a budget and can only spend up to a hard limit then it is an issue. A phone with the SD 835 is not going to perform $250 better than a phone with the 821 plain and simple.

          The actual difference between a $250k to and $260k house would be much more than $15 a month when you include not only the interest involved but also all of the other fee’s that go up in relation to the cost of a house.

          • perfectalpha

            You’re telling me you have a hard limit of $6.67 per month on a phone? I just looked at the iPhone as my base point because I didn’t want to do a ton of research, but you’ll get the point…

            The difference in price for a 30 month plan is $6.67 between the 32 gig and 256 gig ($200 price difference). If you want to upgrade every year, the price difference is $8.33 per month.

            If I’m interested in saving money and have a hard limit, I would buy a OnePlus 3T if price is my #1 concern. Already comes with an 821 and will be cheaper than whatever LG is launching. If you’re spending $550+ on a phone, you can probably skip Starbucks one day a week or bring lunch to work for one day and pay for your phone. I’m just saying…I think that when the reviews come out and LG gets panned for not having the latest and greatest; meanwhile Samsung is praised for what the 835 brings to the table, the sales will prove what I am saying is true/accurate.

            PS: I was talking strictly mortgage rate; not other rates depending on the mortgage type that you go with. The price difference even including taxes, PMI, etc. won’t total more than $100 a month either way unless you get an astronomical interest rate or the price we’re talking about creeps into the $500k territory and above.

          • MKader17

            Every $10K extra you spend on a home cost you about $20K extra over the length of a 30 year loan. I realize phones are “0% interest” but it really doesn’t matter, that’s exactly how people wander into big debt. Oh, this entree only cost $3 more, oh this car only cost $40 more per month (or $10 less if I go a longer loan). Oh this house only cost $50 more per month. Eventually it adds up and your not putting money towards what really matter, which is savings, and investments.

          • perfectalpha

            I don’t disagree with your premise…what I disagree with is everyone saying, “The processor isn’t a big deal” when it is!!! LG has one major knock against it and that is brand perception. Consumers (as proven by their phone spending habits) DO NOT BELIEVE LG makes a better product than Samsung. How is LG going to change that perception when they’re sticking a processor from last year (no matter how nice it may be) inside their next flagship? If the G5 tanked, the G6 is going to suffer the same fate. You can take this comment, put a calendar reminder on your phone for whenever you want. The G6 will be a flop in the grand scheme of things.

            Consumers ARE NOT going to spend $500+ on a phone with last years processor. There is no marketing angle they can take because LG is looking to price themselves in a losing situation. You’re charging more than ZTE and OnePlus and less than Samsung and Apple. If consumers are going to spend $500, they’re likely capable of spending $700-900 too. If a consumers max budget is $500, there are many alternatives out there and some cheaper and available TODAY (like the OnePlus 3T).

            I see all these folks posting on Droid-Life…how bout this Kellex, can you tell what devices people are using to view this thread? I’d love to see what the breakdown would be.

          • jimv1983

            Actually the processor isn’t really a big deal from one generation to the next. Consumers won’t even be able to tell the difference between two consecutive generations of a processor (like the 821 and 835).

            Samsung doesn’t sell more phones because they are better phones. Samsung sells more phones because of advertising and how much the average stupid consumer is a sucker for advertising.

            Most consumers don’t know anything about the CPU. You even mention things like Qualcomm, Snapdragon, 821 or 835 to an average consumer and they’ll have no clue what you are talking about.

            The difference in price is pretty small. If LG were to sell the G6 for significantly less just because it had last year’s processor then most of that would come out of their profit and not the difference in the price of the processors which is likely about $10. You really think a company is going to give up large amounts of profit because one component costs a tiny bit less?

            The rumored very thin bezels would mean a lot more to the average consumer than what processor the phone has.

          • perfectalpha

            What data do you have to support your statement? Why does Apple sell a bunch of phones? They advertise the hell out of their Ax series processors and the media positions them as super powerful. That means something to consumers. When Samsung (whom you admit has a marketing advantage) says, “We have the best processor on the market. None of our competitors have it.” That is it…game set and match for LG.

            Also, do not tell me that the average consumer is a sucker. The Galaxy S/iPhone devices were the best value props last year on the high end. Those are the phones that sold the most last year as well. HTC and LG didn’t produce and it showed in their sales results. I think consumers got it right.

          • jimv1983

            How many ads do you see for HTC or LG phones. Hardly any. A well marketed device can be the most popular even if it isn’t the best.

            I don’t think I’ve ever seen an ad mention the chip in iPhones. The only time I hear it mentioned is during the yearly announcement. The average consumer doesn’t know, understand or care about the details of the CPU. Ask the average consumer what CPU is in their phone. Most won’t even know what a CPU is.

          • MKader17

            I’m really only getting to the point that people who are financially smart either buy the best value product to make the most money or buy the best value product that looses them the least money through depreciation.

            A couple years from now 821 vs 835 will be seen as incremental changes so the prices of the depreciated phones will be similar, but $250 in the bank will be even more valuable if you save/invest it.

          • perfectalpha

            Snapdragon 820 to 821 is an incremental increase. That was a 10% performance boost and more efficient power usage. The 835 is offering 30% increase in area efficiency (slimmer/smaller phones), 27% performance increase, 40% lower power consumption and 20% faster battery charging than the 821. Not to mention there is support for faster storage modules, faster modem/wifi speed, Bluetooth 5.0, etc. It pretty much improves on everything in a big way from the 821.

            A couple of years from now…ever phone any of us buy will be worthless. Besides, Samsung will likely have BOGO’s and huge gift card discounts at places like Best Buy that buying an S8 will be a no brainer.

            Finally, there is brand perception. LG is perceived as lesser than Samsung due to all the various issues they’ve had in the past, uninspiring designs, feature sets, etc….having what will be objectively an inferior processor doesn’t help their case in wooing consumers from Samsung to LG. That’s all I’m saying.

        • Me

          I agree. If you’re gonna spend money might as well get what you want.

    • Brian Himes

      If people went with your line of thinking no one would by a MX-5.

      • perfectalpha

        You kind of reinforce my point to a degree. That vehicle is by no means a top seller as there are “boring” vehicles that are superior in power + fuel economy and consequently sell a lot more.

        Either way you look at it, LG is not aiming for a niche purchaser like Mazda is with that vehicle…LG is trying to compete with Samsung and Apple. If you are trying to change consumer perception of your company, you need to ALWAYS bring your best foot forward. Having what will be deemed as a lesser chip doesn’t do that.

    • jimv1983

      How much of a discount would you expect? A smartphone CPU is around $60. Using a last generation CPU isn’t going to cost much less. The lower price is mainly cutting into profit which I’m all for but probably won’t happen.

  • imHOWIE

    I want to get on Project Fi for my next phone in the fall, so I guess I’ll have to take whatever they’ve got in the pixel 2. I imagine it’ll be at least an 835 though.

  • Matthew Dickinson

    Not so much the chip, as possibly the brand using it.

  • droidbeat

    I’m sure the HTC 10 replacement will have the 835.

    • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

      …. Whenever that shows up.

      • droidbeat

        Probably in May like last year.

        • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

          You think? They still have to roll our the “U” which is their flagship as of right now. If they release the HTC 11 in May they’ll kill their “U” sales. I’m thinking fall.

  • Daistaar

    Wouldn’t call it a deal breaker as the 821 is still a very capable SoC with excellent power draw, HOWEVER, I believe devices should be priced accordingly. Don’t give me 2017 prices with 2016 hardware. If you’re releasing a flagship in 2017 with a SD821, start your MRP at $499

    • needa

      LG isn’t going to release their flagship at $500.

      • Aaron

        They probably won’t sell many, either.

        • jak_341

          Exactly.

      • Me

        Then they’ll bleed red again

      • CabbageHeadCat.

        $599/$649 is a fair price though.

        • Frettfreak

          this would be a fair price i think.

        • jimv1983

          No it isn’t. Break even cost on a flagship level phone is maybe $400. That includes parts, labor, advertising, licensing, legal, R&D, etc. Everything but profit.

          $600 is a markup of 50%. $650 is a markup of 62.5%.

          A fair price would be $450 which is a 12.5% markup.

          • niuguy

            You have a source on those numbers?

          • jimv1983

            At the moment, I don’t have exact number but they have been posted over the years. What I do have sources for is a break down of a few things.

            BOM(bill of materials) for a flagship level phone is about $250.

            Assembly is about $10.

            https://www.google.com/amp/m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s7_bill_of_materials_is_255-amp-17222.php?client=ms-android-google

            The rest of the cost comes from other costs like assembly, legal, licensing, advertising, R&D, etc.

            So let’s take the Galaxy S7 as an example since I found the BOM. Parts are $255. That leaves $145 for all other costs. Now consider that the remaining costs are spread across all the phones sold and even some other non-phone items. Samsung has a cost to develop TouchWiz which is spread across millions of devices sold. Not just the Galaxy S7 but other phones and even tablets. The amount they have to charge per device to recover the costs is tiny. Let’s say the cost to develop the latest TouchWiz was a $100 million (which is REALLY high) and it was only used by the Galaxy S7 (even though the S7 Edge, Note 7, etc got it too) that’s still only $7.50 per phone. Accounting for all the other models sold I’d say $4-6 per S7 is more likely. There are other R&D costs besides software but again, due to volume, the cost per phone isn’t that much.

            In 2016 Samsung spent $3.3 billion on advertising for ALL products. Let’s say, for argument sake, that Samsung sold 200 million items (that’s phones, tablets, smart watches, VR, TV’s, Blu-ray players, soundbars, computers, refrigerators, dishwashers, microwaves, washers, dryers, stoves, etc) that’s like $16. That is just a hypothetical situation but I think it’s pretty clear that advertising cost per item sold is pretty small.

            https://www.google.com/amp/www.businessrevieweurope.eu/marketing/856/Top-20-companies-with-the-biggest-advertising-budget?client=ms-android-google

            For legal (they have to pay the lawyers) and licensing(they have to pay to use technology they don’t own the rights to… like Bluetooth) costs I really have no clue. However, for what we at least have a general ballpark idea about (BOM, assembly, advertising and R&D) the cost, using high estimates, of the Galaxy S7 is:

            BOM: $255
            Assembly: $10
            Share of advertising: $20
            R&D(including hardware): $20 ($15 than software estimate)

            That’s a total of $305 not including legal, licensing and anything else I might have forgotten. And that’s a high estimate. I highly doubt the rest of the costs account for more than $95 per phone. If anything, the $400 break even price for a phone like the Galaxy S7 is high. Depending on the company and a bunch of variables I could see the break even cost for some companies being a little higher.

            The bottom line is a top of the line flagship phone can sell for no more than $500 and still make a profit.

          • John Smith

            Sadly, you’ve left out a few pretty major things in your costs, and that is the retailer and tax/VAT, wholesale and distribution. Make no mistake, it’s the retailers who often make more than the manufacturer, though it can depend on the item. Electrical items have a slimmer margin, as does food. I think those who don’t know about retailing will be surprised by the mark up. A general store in the UK for example would sell goods for around 2 to 3 times the price. So if you buy wallets from China for £2 each, you would sell them for around £6 to include VAT. Major stores will get the goods at a lower price due to their buying power. Some items cost less than you think, ignore the lies from the media, and retailers make a bigger percentage than you think.

            If the handsets did cost $400 per unit to make, (and I’m not saying they don’t), then the majority of the rest would be swallowed up by the retailer, wholesaler and distribution, including transport costs. In Europe VAT varies, but in the UK it’s 20% and is included in the price. This explains why most Android manufacturers who sell via retailers are struggling to make money, whereas Apple, who sell many handsets directly, make fat margins. LG are struggling with their smartphone division, and HTC are under real threat.

          • jimv1983

            I can’t speak for countries other than the United States because this is my only experience as a consumer. Here in the USA tax is always added after. The advertised price never includes tax.

            As for the retailers it’s usually the phone carriers that sell the phones and it’s a well known fact, at least here in the USA, that carriers make little to nothing on devices. Carriers make their money on service and a markup on accessories they sell with phones. The Galaxy S7 sells in the USA for $700(again, that’s before tax). Most, if not all, goes to Samsung

    • Poll is 50-50 as of 1pm EST. And this is an enthusiast site. Real world polls would likely be more like 80-20 in favor of “I dont care, as long as it takes nice pictures”

      • Aaron

        I disagree. It’s like the more megapixels argument. Average consumers not understanding performance differences will default to what they do understand. Larger number = better.

        • Dude, all I’m saying is that 80% of the population isn’t aware of what chip is in their phone.

          • Aaron

            Don’t underestimate Samsung’s marketing machine’s ability to exploit this advantage. All I’m saying.

          • I hear you. That’s IF they start spewing “835” all over the place like camera manufacturers with megapixel count. And up to this point processor details for phones have been overwhelmingly absent from advertising.

          • lsh99

            Exactly. ONLY if salespeople were saying, “Well, this one only has the SD 821 while this one has the SD 835” would the average customer even QUESTION it. Even then, you’re back at the 80-20 on day-to-day performance of the camera and ability to open facebook.

          • CabbageHeadCat.

            And I would love to hear a salesperson explain chip architecture and thermal performance and energy draw. Lol, please invite me to that demo. Especially at ATT.

          • Luke

            I work at Verizon and most of my co-workers are just sales people. They don’t have a clue what the phones screen resolution is, much less what chip or amount of ram is in the device. Good luck getting anything technical out of them.

          • Frettfreak

            crappy sales people, that knowledge should be required.

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          • Brian

            I work at VZW too, and lets be honest, with who we are selling too, most people dont care about all the tech terms and stuff. And you’re right, most of them are sales people. I do work with a few tho that are techy.

          • Torrey Shelton

            I work at Verizon Wireless and I know everything about processor, ram, screen resolution, thermal throttling, rooting, etc but it doesn’t sell us phones. People could care less and they look at me like I have 5 heads if I do bring it up.

          • Frettfreak

            they dont have to. “this one has last years processor and this one has this years” is the only one line samsung needs to teach salespeople to use. but if its $499 it wont matter.

          • Brian

            I work for the other big carrier, and we don’t mention any of that stuff to thr average person cause they have no idea what youd be talking about. Real techies I find don’t go into phone stores to buy their phones. That I find.

          • Brian

            As a sales person, I dont even spew those numbers cause the person will give me a blank stare and have no idea what I’m talking about. What processor LG is using in their newest phone is a non issue with the people I deal with.

          • CabbageHeadCat.

            They would t does 835, tech sites will. Because Sammy uses Exinos in phones as well.

          • CabbageHeadCat.

            UHM, Samsung uses two different chipsets in the same phone. People don’t care.

          • Aaron

            If people don’t care then why is Samsung Bogarting the entire first run of the SD835? For that matter why does Qualcomm even bother to make new chipsets? No one wonder mind if we were still using the 800, right?

          • Frettfreak

            not to mention that sales people will use this to gain more trust with the customer. “you dont want this one cause its got last years processor, let me show you this s8” consumers dont have to be educated, sales people just need to be incentivized.

          • Brian

            There’s no incentive to selling the s8 vs the G6. And if theyre both good phones, I’m not going to br like, you don’t eant the G6, its got last years processor. The way people use their phones on a regular basis, the processor wont make a difference if its one year off.

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        • CabbageHeadCat.

          Most people don’t know what megapixel their cameras are, lesser than that the processor. Ask anyone. They just don’t know or care. As long as it is smooth and takes good pictures most people are set.

          • Aaron

            Guess that’s why most people prefer iPhones…

        • marcusmarcus2

          But they don’t really know what those numbers mean. Where money wise, they do know what that means. Most consumers won’t even look at the CPU name or number, just that this these are the newest phones by these companies and this one is a lower price. Price wise to most consumers: Lower Number = better deal.

          • Aaron

            Yeah lower price would be enticing. But let’s not forget that LG isn’t really setting any sales records as it is. Selling a flagship with 2016 specs at 2017 prices might be a tough sell versus identically spec’ed 2016 flagships at discounted pricing. What will the G6 offer that can’t be had in the S7 cheaper when the S8 drops?

        • jimv1983

          That would still require the average consumer to even know what CPU their phone has in the first place. Most people don’t even pay attention to that.

          So while you might be right about the “larger number = better” idea it doesn’t really matter if they don’t know that number in the first place.

          Ask the average consumer what CPU is in their phone and you’re most likey to get an answer like “ummm….CPU?…..it’s a Samsung Galaxy/iPhone/LG”.

        • Brian

          The average person has no idea what a 821 or 835 is. They don’t see those things when they come in go buy a phone. I know, cause I sell phones to people everyday. Its about battery life and camera. Thats what they look for. Not processor, if its running last years model or the newest.

    • Devi Singh

      You have said very correct and right !

    • RiceCake

      Yeah and the real reason, according to SamMobile, is that Samsung is hoarding (or a licensing agreement) with Qualcomm on the 835 to basically not allow it in any other Android devices. Although take that with a grain of salt.

      • Frettfreak

        they just want to release it first. Not hoarding it. they helped design and manufacture the chip, whats wrong with that?

      • John Smith

        Don’t fall for the media BS. This nonsense comes from an LG shill who works for Forbes. A guy who went to their factory and is close to them. He made a ridiculous claim which has been repeated word for word across the media – they must have some kind of agreement to repeat BS, word for word. Even you have used the word ‘hoarding’, which shows you were influenced. The truth is that the chips are delayed, and it’s highly likely that 10nm is coming along slightly later than would have been preferred. We don’t even know what the yields are like, they could be quite low. One of the reasons the S8 is delayed is because of this. What should Samsung do, hand the first chips out to other companies? LG should wait if they really want to use the 835.

    • jimv1983

      More like $399. $499 is the most any phone should ever cost. Prices are ridiculous.

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  • Big EZ

    I answered yes, but it’s only a deal breaker if it comes in over $500. However, the real deal breaker is the black and blue screens of death from previous LG phones. My favorite phone, and best Android experience to date, the G3 died after 18 months followed by two G4’s dieing within 6 months after that.

  • 2001400ex

    To me if I’m buying a flagship I want the latest and greatest. To 95% of the consumers, they’ll never notice the difference. They’ll buy what they like. As long as it’s fast enough with the 821 like the pixel is, it’ll sell. The Moto Z play with its 617 or whatever processor most people won’t notice.

    • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

      Z Play with the 625 has Godlike battery life. They’ll definitely notice that.

  • JSo

    I really couldn’t care less about what processor is in a phone as long as the phone still runs smoothly. I don’t run heavy games or anything on my mobile devices so I don’t think it would even effect me much.

    • Fitzgerald42

      Doesn’t sound like you would be in the market for a flagship device then.

  • Nayners

    The Snapdragon 821 in the Pixel is really fantastic. If LG can optimize the phone a bit more than in the past, you might still have a winner.

  • Joey Riz

    I would say almost leaning to yes. Samsung really did the right thing by hording those chips… Making people who would have chosen another brand because of battery concerns say screw it I want the newest chip

  • David Imel

    It’s not quite a deal breaker for me but with what Qualcomm showed off at CES I really really wish they went with 835. I’m at least glad they’re announcing before Samsung. I think LG needs proper marketing and publicity more than anything.

  • AUSTEEEZZZ

    I’d say yes. Just because it came out at the end of last year, doesn’t mean the 835 isn’t better.

    • Daishi

      Your assault upon my sarcasm meter is greatly appreciated!