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Here are Some of the Rumored Specs for an Upcoming HTC Nexus

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Back in April, we saw the first batch of reports surface with possible details of the upcoming Nexus phone or phones from Google. The initial rumors focused on codenames of Marlin and Sailfish as those representing two HTC phones that would take over Google’s Nexus program this year, but few other details accompanied those names. Today, thanks to a report out of Android Police, we may have an early spec list for the supposed smaller of the two phones, the Sailfish

According to this report, Sailfish will be the smaller of two HTC-made Nexus phones headed this way and could be a well-put-together package for those not interested in another whale-ish Nexus. An initial spec list provided suggests we’ll get a 5-inch 1080p display, quad-core 2.0GHz (64-bit) processor, 4GB RAM, 2770mAh battery, 32GB storage, 12MP rear camera, 8MP front camera, rear-mounted fingerprint reader, USB Type-C port on the bottom, bottom-firing speaker, top-mounted headphone jack, and Bluetooth 4.2. This goes without saying, but Android N will be there as well, assuming Google does what it always does and launches the new version of Android on fresh Nexus hardware.

Or better yet, here is all of that in bulleted form:

  • HTC Nexus “sailfish”
  • 5-inch FHD AMOLED display (1080p)
  • 2.0GHz quad-core processor (64-bit)
  • 4GB RAM
  • 2770mAh battery
  • 32GB storage
  • 12MP rear camera
  • 8MP front camera
  • Rear-mounted fingerprint reader
  • USB Type-C port
  • Bottom-firing speaker
  • Top-mounted headphone jack
  • Bluetooth 4.2

This report can’t confirm if 32GB will be the only storage option (or even the base at that), what the processor is, how many speakers there are, or what the price will be. Still, this info certainly gets the wheels turning as we approach August, where we expect Google to show off finished Nexus devices for 2016.

Based off of that info, could this be what the Nexus 5X should have been? Should HTC make great hardware with help from Google and the price be right as the smaller model, I’m not seeing much here that I’m not ready to jump after.

Via:  Android Police
  • alex

    Daydream ready? Doesn’t seem like screen would be, but idk… Wireless charging?

  • Shemly Golam

    Im so torn between getting an s7 or waiting it out for the new nexus(es)

  • SD slot. SD slot. SD slot. SD slot. Google, that’s all I need to jump to a Nexus.

  • steadymobb

    Honestly not impressive hope it’s the lower end model or not true at all

  • The Doctor

    Yawn.

  • dcdttu

    I wonder if quad-core means full quad-core (Nexus 5) or dual core primary with others being low-power (Nexus 5X). Hoping for the former.

    • Rod

      It’s probably a Snapdragon 82x variant.

      • dcdttu

        I haven’t been a fan of the performance of the Nexus 5X over the Nexus 6P or even Nexus 5, and something tells me it’s because of the two primary cores rather than a quad-core setup.

        • Rod

          As flawed as the Snapdragon 808/810 were, I think the lackluster is more related to the encryption than anything else.

          Nexus 5 with a Snapdragon 800 performs incredibly well, almost 3 years later.

          • dcdttu

            Encryption is definitely playing a role, but my N6P is considerably faster than my boyfriend’s N5X. I don’t really have any issues with the N6P’s speed, and I’m thinking it’s because Android just runs faster with 4 primary cores instead of 2.

          • Rod

            But you have to take in account that the S810 is more powerful than the 808. The problem was the aggressive throttling, but thats only after a sustained high demand.

            Plus, an extra GB of RAM makes big difference too. Most of the apps stay cached, instead of opening from zero.

  • yummy

    Yeah, I’m ga need a bragger battery than that, ladies. Step it the f up or go the f home already, ninny men.

  • G5

    5″ too small. 5.5 is perfect. Why would they go smaller. We have beautiful; screens with the ability to do anything these days (watch movies, etc) so why would they give us tiny screens. Buy a flip phone if you want small screens. On the other hand 6″ is too big. Looks stupid. 5.5 or right around there is the perfect size for these mini computers

    • vzwuser76

      Everyone’s got different wants. You want 5.5″, some want 5″ or smaller, others want 6″ or larger. There is no perfect size for everyone. And a 1½-2″ screen is a lot bigger step down than going from a 5.5″ down to a 5.0″ screen.

    • Rod

      You know this is the smaller one, right?

      There will be a 8″ for the people don’t want a tablet.

  • sagisarius

    OMG, water proof it Google. Make it the norm!

  • A QHD screen, 3000mah (minimum) battery, and waterproof it and we good anything other than that is uncivilized…

    • Rod

      QHD? Ugh

      3000mah, agreed.

  • Jason Bittner

    I still hold a grudge about the thunderbolt

  • Andres Quiroga Laspiur

    bring back qi charging, in my opinion one of the most usefull features!

  • Daistaar

    Completely off-topic but related because it’s HTC:

    Thunder = Sound
    Bolt = Light

    What is a Thunderbolt? Not quite Thunder, not quite lightning. What is it? Also, I’d love to see a new Thunderbolt that is a real 2016 flagship and can redeem what HTC was after with the first ‘bolt. Nexus ‘Bolt, by HTC.

  • dave

    What I am seeing in the comments right now: “OMG, 2770 mAh is soooo tiny. That will only get my through my morning shower. I tots need like 12,000,000 mAh because it’s a bigger number. #disappointment”

    • Drew

      I think the issue people take is that phones like the LG G2 (11% bigger battery than the 5X in a smaller size) and Galaxy S7 Edge (33% bigger battery than the 5X in the same width and barely taller) prove it’s possible for Nexus phones to do much better.

      The only way this can be excused in a device without speakers on the front is if the bezels are amazingly thin. Or if the device is just cheap, which is annoying when both iPhone and the Galaxy S line have premium phones at that size.

    • Rod

      It’s kinda tiny for today standard’s, yes.

      But Z3 Compact has 2,600mah, and trumps almost every device out there.

      That said, people need to see the whole picture, instead of a single component.

  • R. Deschain

    At this point, aren’t these specs “ho hum”? Seems like this will be out of date on the day it starts shipping.

  • DJyoSNOW

    I have faith in HTC and want to belive. Great article! (5.5″ +, inches please)

  • Sharonglocke3
  • Mike

    Phones this year are plateauing with there specs, were not getting anywhere further really.. Smaller battery(whooh quick charge… sarcasm), storage the same as the demand for data capacity grows rapidly, not too exciting speakers and just nothing too creative lately other than the norm smartphone expectations….minus the SD card slot which should be but nah they need to make $$ whatever.

  • B Brad

    Is wireless charging and/or replacable battery too much to ask?

    • cadtek91

      That’s not part of Google’s vision anymore. So, from a Nexus or Pixel device, yes.

  • mat123VA

    Coming from the 2014 Moto X, I must have hands free voice “Ok Google” unlock from sleep mode..!

    • Rod

      Doable, since Snapdragon > 800 has a low power core for this kind of task.

  • Alan Paone

    really bummed out by the top headphone jack, bring on the usb-c headphones, i guess

    • Rod

      5″ with bottom speaker, they could make it even smaller than the N5. I hope so.

      • Alan Paone

        i hope so too, I’d still prefer a smaller than 5″ screen

        • Rod

          They could do a 4,7 and a 5,7″ device.

          Would please everybody.

  • Chrisdroid

    My nexus 6p made by huawei is the best phone I have ever had in my life.. And I can say I’ve had them almost all… So whatever I get, it will have to be better than the 6p on any aspect or I shall pass…

    • Duffman

      I guess you don’t listen to audio on your 6P. The 6P has about the worst audio out from the headphone jack that I’ve heard from a phone in a long time. It seriously lacks power to drive my “decent” skullcandy Heavymedal buds. And the curve is to flat it makes audio sound muddled. HTC blows every phone OEM out of the water in terms of audio.

      • Chrisdroid

        I do but I always use my lg tones platinum through Bluetooth and it sounds amazing.. And the two frontal speakers on the 6p blow any phone out of the water, I had the HTC 10 and ended up returning it and going back to the 6p cause the 6p with Android N Developer Preview ran way faster than the HTC 10..i mean the HTC 10 it’s a great phone too and yes listening to audio through the headphones output it’s great as well.. But that was the only plus for me.. Anything else the 6p was better specially screen size and amoled kind as well.

  • ROB

    How is this going to compete with the Motorola G 4th generation?

  • s0uth

    No premium 5 inch again…..

    • cadtek91

      What tells you this is not a premium phone? You cannot determine that from the vague specifications listed here.

      • Aaron

        That small battery at bottom mounted speaker does not bode well….

        • cadtek91

          How is 2770 small? Seems alright to me.

          • Aaron

            Meh at best. 5x battery life stinks and it’s not much smaller. Would just like a little more. 3000 seems about right.

        • Rod

          The battery is actually located in the mid-point. It’s not in the speaker.

          • Aaron

            “and” instead of “at”. Autocorrect, it’s a first world problem.

          • Rod

            I know.

            Just kidding.

      • s0uth

        Just assuming.

    • Rod

      Where did you get that from?

  • disastrousrainbow

    Is it just impossible to get a high-end 5-inch Nexus phone again…or a lovely, slender, female paratrooper? Am I reaching for the stars here? Not really…

    • cadtek91

      I hope you’re not implying that from these vague specs that this will not be high-end.

      • disastrousrainbow

        Well, if it’s like their last two Nexus releases, yes that’s exactly what I’m implying. The Nexus 5X was not high-end. It was mid-range and the specs announced here are looking to be midrange too.

    • Scott Daniel Montanaro

      I signed up for Disqus JUST to upvote this comment.

      • Aaron

        And yet he has no upvotes…hmmmm.

        • Scott Daniel Montanaro

          Thanks for lookin out.

          • Aaron

            It’s what I do. I drink and I look out. 🙂

        • disastrousrainbow

          I do now! I’m important! Yay!

          • Aaron

            There’s one more for ya, big guy. Go wild.

    • Rod

      How do you know this is not premium?

      • disastrousrainbow

        The lack of a QHD display and the size of its battery. I have a hard time believing Google would downgrade on those two things after the 6P featured them and featured them pretty damn well so I’m betting those particular specs will be reserved for the other variant, which if we’re going by last year when Google split up the Nexus line with the 5X and 6P, will be the higher-end, more premium of the two. In fact, I’m betting all my Professor Land Fun Bucks on that being the case. Since we still don’t know what the design of this phone will be, it could very well still end up being a “premium” device as far as looks go, but judging by these rumored specs that won’t necessarily be the case with its specs…

        • Rod

          Why would a 5″ phone need more than 1080p?

          Z3 Compact was flagship and beared a 2,600mah…

          • Duffman

            For VR… daydream… this is a Nexus phone!

          • Rod

            Particularly, I couldn’t care less about VR.

          • Duffman

            That’s fine and dandy for you, but Google is going to push daydream, so I would have imagined both Nexus phones this year would have QHD, otherwise, VR looks terrible. This is supposed to be a “developer phone”. lol

          • Rod

            Thought so too, but luckily, it seems like only the other one will be certified.

        • Corey Watford

          I would imagine that HTC is using parts from previous HTC devices, maybe a M8/M9 Super LCD Display etc to save on cost

          • disastrousrainbow

            This worries me because the M8 display was far better than the one they put in the M9. Furthermore, those phones had a tendency to show “trails” on text when you would scroll up and down. It really bothered me and it’s not something I notice on most AMOLED’s and LCD panels used by others like Motorola…

        • Charles Walker

          If they put QHD on a 5″ phone, I would be pissed. Not worth the battery drain.

          • disastrousrainbow

            I wouldn’t. I had pretty outstanding battery life on the HTC 10 and it had a QHD display. In fact, it outlasted a lot of my older phones that “only” had 1080p displays. So if they’re able to cram one in that’s power efficient along with a large battery? Um, yes, please…

  • killua

    It’s super disappointing that HTC is making both Nexus phones. Maybe next year Nexus will be worth my money.

    • MJ

      Smart… Make final decision/judgement before product is even revealed.

      • Charles Walker

        Even scarier, 6 clowns upvoted him. LOL

    • Duffman

      Right? I mean, lets totally forget that HTC had award winning phones with the M7 and M8. Oh, and that HTC 10 that has gotten quite good reviews.

  • MH

    Are these 2013 specs?

    • Rod

      More like 2016.

      • MH

        5″ 1080p display – 2013
        12mp rear camera – 2011

        • Rod

          > 400 ppi RGB, that’s overkill for human eye.

          You measure camera quality by resolution? LOL

          I’m done here.

  • Rodeojones000

    No thanks. Screen is too small, and the battery is pathetic.

    • Rod

      Don’t worry, there’ll be a 8″ sibling for the people who wanna walk around with a tablet in their pockets.

  • cadtek91

    Sounds great!

    People, if you’re coming from a phone, one year old, sure it won’t look like much of an upgrade. If however, you’re coming from a two or three year-old phone, it’s a pretty great upgrade.

    2770mAh is not a small battery. It’ll still get you through a day. If we REALLY want so much more, battery tech needs to change, adding more mAh isn’t always the best solution.

    • Jeremiah Payne

      I agree but since battery tech is struggling to keep up adding more mAh is really the best we can do for now.

      • cadtek91

        There is always a balance between design and battery though. Don’t make it any thicker than my perfect N5 at 8.59mm.

      • needa

        Battery tech is in no way, shape, or form… struggling to keep up. Producing the batteries as cheap as the current lithium-ion batts is the issue.

    • ROB

      Silly… It’s not the battery but the screen… Those pixels need more power.. This battery still isn’t big enough for a 1080 screen… But they don’t care..

      • cadtek91

        What are you talking about? It’s plenty for a Full HD screen; the N5 I have now, it’s less mAh and still 1080p, looks and works wonderfully.

    • socarwolverine

      I mean, i’m sitting here with a three year old phone with a 3500 mAh battery. So while the specs are obviously better, they still could’ve at least gone 3000 mAh in a 2016 phone.

      • Rod

        What’s you phone?

  • Jeremiah Payne

    So half a day battery life? Seriously though, that size phone can hold a 3000mah easy

    • vzwuser76

      While I agree it probably could hold a larger battery, I doubt it’ll get less than a full day. The battery is already larger than the 5x’s and with a smaller screen, and the CPU will most likely be more efficient.

  • jbdan

    Can’t wait! Really looking forward

  • Godzilla

    I dont care for HTC, would prefer something else.

    • Daniel Thomas

      I didn’t care for Huawei, and then I had the Nexus 6P.

  • teebone

    It’s already a failure due to it being made by HTC! Let Huawei make another one..HTC sucks!!!!!!!!

    • Dirge

      Finally someone speaks the truth! Year after year, phone after phone, HTC fails to impress with their mediocre hardware and uninspired design.

      • Duffman

        I guess you forgot about the award winning design of the M7 and M8? Or the fact the HTC 10 has received good reviews? If you want an uninspired design, look no further than Samsung.

    • Jason B

      Funny, most Nexus fanboys were livid about Huawei making a Nexus.
      Then it came out, got good reviews, and was a decent device.
      And everyone changed their tune from Chinese POS to best Nexus EVAR.

      I watched the comments sections with amusement as opinions changed from one extreme to the other.

  • psynpo

    Well I just hope they follow what most of the flagship phones are doing and put a SD card slot in these. If not I might get a 6p

    • Rod

      Doubt it.

      • psynpo

        It would be nice to have tho

        • Rod

          Don’t like the idea very much.

          SD cards (class 10) are still much slower than a good UFS storage.

          • vzwuser76

            But for things like pics, music, and videos the speed should be sufficient, and that’s what takes up most of the storage on a phone.

          • Rod

            Aren’t 64/128gb enough?

          • vzwuser76

            Yes, but they also charge a lot more for on board storage vs the cost of expandable.

          • Rod

            But an UFS storage is much higher quality than a SD card, whatsoever.

          • vzwuser76

            Yes, but the problem is you’re looking at a point of diminishing returns. It’d be like picking up a 4k TV to watch vcr tapes. If the quality of the storage is fine for media, better storage won’t make a difference other than loading it a ms or two faster. The only way I could see a high quality SD card being an issue is video with a high enough bit rate that exceeds the transfer speed of the SD card, and there isn’t hardly any content that falls into that category.

            The point however is irrelevant in that Google hasn’t done expandable storage on a nexus since the first model year years ago. My point was that for the average user, an SD card is fast enough. And businesses tend to produce products with the majority in mind, not power users.

          • Rod

            The read/write speeds are key elements to quickness and overall performance.

            I prefere having big internal storage than having people pop in cheap SD cards and complaning about performance.

          • vzwuser76

            I know that. But you’re saying what you want and then acting like people should be forced into paying more for what you want so they won’t complain. First, that won’t stop people complaining. You could make a device with perfect specs and performance and people would still complain. Second, most people will never know the difference between Us and SD cards. Maybe once in awhile they’ll see some lag. Third, with only internal memory, you’re locked in to that amount of storage. For files that don’t need the higher write/read speeds, they can be offloaded to an SD card so that files that do need those speeds can make use of them. And assuming the card slot has a high enough possible capacity (like 2TB) it can keep being upgraded. With fixed internal storage, you have to buy another device, use a fully external storage medium (like a thumb drive), or offload some of your content.

            Files are getting larger and larger. A few years ago most people would’ve been content with 8 or 16GB of total storage. Now 32GB is the bare minimum. And in reality, the problem isn’t the speed of the storage, but the fact that these OEMs are charging a premium for storage that costs them a fraction of what they charge the consumer.

          • Rod

            Well, it’s kinda pointless to argue about this, as Google won’t give Nexus expandable storage anyway.

            But I respect your taste, and while this isn’t a deal-breaker for me, I wouldn’t mind having this option.

          • vzwuser76

            Well I don’t think you’ll have to worry. I doubt that they’ll only have one storage capacity, they didn’t storage options in the past several models.

          • Rod

            Yeah, 5″ will probably have a 32/64GB option.

            My current phone is 16GB, so even 32GB is a formidable upgrade.

    • Greyhame

      It would be nice, but Nexus phones, including the 6P, do not have SD cards.

  • rj-b

    Front-facing stereo speakers would make this better.

    But, they gotta make Marlin premium.

    • Aaron

      They could make both premium. I love the size of my 5x but beyond that is a bunch of compromises. Small battery, sub-par LCD display, underperforming SoC, etc., etc. Why does every OEM but Samsung (of all companies) think medium size phones can only be midrange?

      • rj-b

        I see both sides of the argument. It’s seemingly such a small niche who want a ‘premium’ 5″ phone (me included), it’d be a big risk to sell a $500 5″ phone. Let’s face it — it’s about profits, and such a device would be expensive and sell to very few.

        Most people can’t even tell you a single spec on their current phone, and the masses (for the most part) don’t care. If that’s the audience that is being marketed to, I can’t blame Google/HTC for skimping on the specs (provided the price point reflects those decisions — sub-$350 would be legit… $300 would raise eyebrows).

        I won’t jump to conclusions until I see the price.

    • Rod

      Front-facing speakers in mose cases equals to bigger bezels.

      In that case, I prefer bottom ones.

      • rj-b

        Meh, bezels don’t bother me as much as watching a video in landscape and having lopsided audio to one side. I miss stereo speakers.

        • Rod

          Well, each to their own.

          I’d take a smaller device any day.

  • Howard Smith

    I hope it’s 6 inches

    • Scott Ricketts

      Your mom says she needs more than that

    • Aaron

      That’s definitely not what she said. 🙂

      Sorry, but somebody had to do it.

  • Naibas

    5in screen – Strike 1
    under 3000maH battery- Strike 2
    no expandable memory, single front facing speaker, top-mounted headphone jack, 12MP camera – Strike 3, 4, 5 , 6…

    You are out of the game.

    • Rod

      5″ 1080p = perfect
      Battery = could be better, but Z3 Compact does wonders with 2600 + 4.6″ …
      32/64GB = excellent
      Speaker = indifferent
      Improved camera = excellent

      It’s at the top of the game.

      • Franklin Ramsey

        I’d prefer the battery at 3500mAH or even 3000mAH, but if the camera has OIS and laser focus, that would be nice.

        • Rod

          Yeah, battery, money and health are never enough.

          But, with improved Doze, a more efficient SoC (14nm litography) and a good battery quality, it probably will perform well.

      • Naibas

        5.5 – 5.7″ 1080p = perfect / 5″ too small. I respect your preference for small phone, but 5″ is too small

        Battery = even with optimal battery management and fast-charge, <3000maH cant get through a 16 hours of regular use without going out of your way to squeak as much life as you can by turning off B/T, GPS, dimmest screen brightness, etc..

        32gb = agree 64 is reasonable, but 64gb is not mentioned in the above article, and 32gb without expandable memory is not "excellent".

        Speaker = I can't stand to have to cup my hands around the back of phone to get the speakers to project just a little louder, nor holding the phone so close to my ear I can't see the screen. I like using my phone for games and watching videos, and like to both see the screen and hear the sound while holding my phone in a normal comfortable position.

        Camera = I don't need a 21MP camera, but at least 16mp with today's optimization. Is it fine for selfies and normal distance shots, sure, works just fine unless you plan to crop in on tiny portion of that frame (not common), but for landscape or distance shots where I am most likely to crop my photo, those MP's matter.

        and TOP of the game…hardly, this is nearly as much fail as the LG nexus last year.

        • Rod

          As for screen size, there’ll be a bigger on, as stated. Why complain about 5″?

          Z3 Compact with a 2,600mah will outlast pratically every smartphone out there, so I think you shouldn’t make such assumptions.

          Nexus has always had at least two storage options, and they most likedly killed the 16GB option because of the seamless updates feature, which requires more space for the separate partition. My guess it 32/64 for the 5-incher and 64/128 for the bigger one.

          As for the speaker, that’s personal taste. But if bottom speakers mean smaller bezels, I’m all for it.

          Camera… I think everyone loved the current Nexus cameras. If the new one has OIS, what’s not to like?

          Nexus 5X got backlash mostly because of it’s size and low RAM.

    • DanSan

      I’m spoiled by the front facing speakers on my N6… every phone should have it

      • Rod

        FF speakers with those small bezels probably isn’t possible in smaller frames.

  • DanG

    Yes on 5″ display. No on less than 3000mAh battery and 32GB storage.

  • mrc0mments

    1080p scree? That wont’ support VR Daydream, correct? Doesn’t sound right.

    • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

      Good point… Maybe

    • aleubalton

      That’s because this is not the flagship… the Daydream compatible Nexus will most likely be the 6″ one…

      • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

        If Google is pushing VR why would they release a phone that can’t support it?

        • aleubalton

          Because VR is a premium feature, and should stay that way. Think about it this way: QHD in a 5″ screen would only affect negatively on the battery life and performance, without mentioning the price… they’ll leave Daydream for the bigger guy, as well as stereo speakers and some other premium features, making the smaller guy more simple and minimalistic, in order to achieve a good budget friendly Nexus.

          • Aaron

            That’s a shame. All I want for Christmas is a Nexus 5p.

  • calculatorwatch

    Really glad they’re making a small phone in this batch of Nexi. Keeping it simple and the build quality should be great because it’s HTC.

    Nexus line isn’t for people who want a flashy phone with a bunch of fancy features. It’s for those looking for a simple, highly usable phone for a good price.

    • burkett375

      No it’s not.

      It’s what Google envisions as the “standard” phone devs should build for. Fancy features are key… How else can they make progress and push the envelope on software? Price shouldn’t matter… It’s a dev phone.

      • calculatorwatch

        Yeah on software, not hardware. There’s no point in putting fancy hardware features on a phone that’s all about the software. The last nexus to push the envelope on hardware was the Galaxy Nexus with it’s curved glass amoled screen, and we all know how it turned out software-wise.

        BTW, devs have a budget too. Every Nexus besides the 6 has been priced below the average flagship price at the time.

        • vzwuser76

          Not really, the Nexus1, Nexus S, Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 6, and 6p were all in line with what other comparable phones were charging. The Nexus 4 and 5 were less than comparable phones. But even the 5x was around the same price as the Motorola X Pure even though it had a smaller screen.

          • calculatorwatch

            I didn’t say they were priced less than comparable phones, I said they were priced less than most flagship phones.

            Generally, Nexus phones have very modern chipsets, so they accomplish this by keeping the rest of the hardware simple and basic, which brings us back to my original point.

        • burkett375

          A perfect example is the 6p. A fingerprint scanner was considered fancy at the time and without one, we’d have 5 different standards. We need manufacturers putting fancy new things on nexuses so that Android can be programmed for those fancy things, set an example, and let OEMs build on it.

          As far as price goes, the phone isn’t a huge seller and profit isn’t the main goal, but as a business, there has to be a way to make money somewhere…

          • calculatorwatch

            Okay that’s a good point, but it was still a feature that made using the phone simpler and didn’t raise the price by much.

            I’m not sure what more people are looking for on a 5″ phone. They could have given it a ton of pixels to push VR, but that’s probably something the larger version will have anyways.

  • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

    What processor? 64bit doesn’t really mean anything.

    As for everything else including that tiny battery. This better be a $200 phone.

    I would love a 5 inch device though.

    • DanG

      Exynos 8

      • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

        Would be nice. But over Samsung’s dead body.

    • nexodus09

      We all know you already have a 5″ device there little buddy.

      • DanielMena9

        and here i thought 5″ was big 😛

        • Aaron

          It’s what I’ve been told 🙂

      • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

        Look at my nose

        • moew

          Look at my cheese!

        • nexodus09

          Touché lol

    • Rod

      Doesn’t matter.

      If it was the Snapdragon 800, it’d still be great.

      • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

        Far from it.

      • Aaron

        Tell that to the 808 in my 5x. It is better on the N preview, but has always lagged behind my N6.

    • Diefanbluehard

      With 4GB ram?

    • moew

      They could do what the OP3 did and bin a display from a decade ago. I’ll bet they don’t and I’ll bet it’ll be a bit more expensive.

      • Aaron

        I just want it to be an AMOLED. So tired of LCD.

    • ck125

      $200? Keep dreaming

    • ChrisI

      That’s what she said

  • Qbancelli

    The most boring phone of 2016!

    Only a few small-hand sissies will get excited about this Nexus.

  • Starting to wish that South Africa Huawei statement about “doing the Nexus again this year” meant what we thought it meant

  • Can we knock it off already with the top-mounted headphone jack?

    • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

      No… It’s a stupid idea. It belongs on the bottombottom…. Unless I’m agreeing with you.

      • Haha yea we are agreeing, it belongs on the bottom. I’m saying they should stop making phones with the jack on the top

        • hkklife

          The phone manufacturers would rather stop making 3.5mm jacks completely instead of relocating them.

          • Though I think getting rid of the 3.5 jack is more for thinness, I much rather have a thicker phone with more battery and a headphone jack

  • duke69111

    Why do these batteries keep getting smaller….

    • Dregur

      Technically, it’s bigger than the 5x…

    • ChrisI

      Because if they load it with quick/fast charge then consumers shut their mouths. Which is insane.

    • Nexus 5 had a 2300mAh battery and 5.0″ display
      Nexus 5x had a 2700mAh battery and 5.2″ display
      Nexus 5 2016 has a 2770mAh battery and 5.0″ display

      These are larger each year, not smaller.

    • Daniel Thomas

      because the chips and technology is a lot more efficient, and therefore does not need to get bigger. Plus, like Geoff said, they are not getting smaller.

  • Jeremy Wray

    Go another year with my Moto Nexus 6 or make the jump to HTC? Am I wrong for wishing that Moto would make another Nexus even with them not truly being Moto anymore.

    • nexodus09

      I miss my n6. I would probably use it over the 6p if it had a fingerprint sensor

      • Tim P

        I have both, use 6 95% of the time

  • mcdonsco

    If they skip wireless charging again then Nexus will be dead to me.

    • nexodus09

      Why don’t you quit being an overdramatic little beotch

      • mcdonsco

        Why don’t you stop being an antagonistic little prick?

        • nexodus09

          Nah that’s how I like to be with a bunch of tards on this website

        • moew

          @mcdonsco:disqus why don’t you?

      • Lucky Armpit

        It’s not being overdramatic. Next Nexus MUST have wireless charging or it will be dead to me too.

        • Andres Quiroga Laspiur

          same here, i want to change my nexus 4, I cant see me again having to plug my phone

    • Jeremiah Payne

      yes, wireless charging sounds like a gimmick but it is the type of feature that once you get used to it you CAN’T go back.

      • CabbageHeadCat.

        It’s easier to go back with quick charge though. That’s for sure.

        • Loonytik

          I never think about quick charge with wireless charging available. I just drop my phone on the disk and it’s always topped off.

          • Except those times you’ve been out for a while and your battery is at 50% or lower, and you know you need to leave shortly for another event, then wireless charging is nearly useless.

          • Loonytik

            I keep a battery power pack with me in this case. I would prefer to have a removable battery since that is much smaller to carry but those days seem to be gone.

          • Or just throw it on a quick charger for 30 minutes and be fully charged with no need to remove a case, and deal with swapping batteries.

          • Daistaar

            Fast Wireless charging my friend. Once you’re at 50% your wired charging speed scales back to 9V, 1.5amps which is the same speed as a wireless fast charger. You’re only getting the fast charge 12V speed at under 50% battery. Wireless is just as good in your particular example. If your battery were closer to dead, definitely plug in.

          • Samsung’s fast wireless chargers are 1.4x faster than a regular Qi charger, which are around 12V @ 500mA (6W). A standard non-quick charge USB charger is 5V @ 2.4A which is 12W, still faster than the 8.5W from a Samsung fast wireless charger. Then if you look at QuickCharge 2.0/3.0, you can charge up to 18W. So while it’s faster, it’s still not as fast as regular wired charging, let alone QuickCharge. To your other point about it slowing down, all chargers do this, even wireless chargers lower the current as the battery gets close to 100%.

          • Daistaar

            You’re right but your numbers are pretty off. Standard wireless chargers are typically 5V at 1.5 amps, roughly 7 Watts (trickle charge). The average phone would need 5V at 2 or 2.4 amps, or 10 to 12 Watts as you’ve mentioned. A fast Wireless charger is way higher than the 8.5 Watt you mentioned and more along the lines of 16 Watts since they are not operating at the 5V mark but the 9V mark. It’s something like 9V at 1.8 amps which is 16.2W, plenty fast for wireless charging and akin to Quickcharge. The only speed that fast wireless chargers can’t currently hit are the 12V speeds that quick charge 2 and 3 can hit at the bottom end of the battery charge cycle before the battery hits 50%. After that they are exactly the same.

          • No, my numbers are not off. A standard Android phone made in the last few years can be charged at 2-2.4A @ 5V during a full charge, which is 10-12W. Samsung advertises their fast wireless charges as being 1.4x faster than a traditional Qi charger, which is 5W. No way are you seeing a fast wireless charger on today’s phones charging anywhere near 16W. Heck the input alone on Samsung’s fast wireless chargers are 5V @ 2A. You can’t make more power than you take in. During wireless charging you will also experience a slow down as the battery gets hotter, it will slow down the charge rate.

      • Coming from a Note 5 and S7 Edge with wireless charging that I used daily and going back to a Nexus, I can assure you that it’s very easy to not have wireless charging. Quick charging is so much more convenient.

      • vzwuser76

        I used it and wasn’t impressed. It took longer to charge, the phone got hotter when it was charging, all so I didn’t have to plug in a cable. Induction is never as efficient as a physical connection.

    • Someone’s a lazy self-entitled ass

      • Daistaar

        Lazy, self-entitlement drives technology and innovation. Otherwise, we’d never have a wheel. Work smarter, not harder.

        • vzwuser76

          I think you’re confusing lazy with efficiency.

          • Daistaar

            I think you’re confusing me for the person who said it lol. I also completely agree with you lol. People mistake efficiency for laziness and it drives me crazy. Hover boards are lazy not efficient lol.

          • vzwuser76

            But what he said was correct, the lazy part anyway. Wireless charging isn’t efficient, it doesn’t charge as fast and the battery gets hotter which shortens it’s lifespan. All so that you don’t have to plug in a cord. That’s lazy and not efficient.

          • Daistaar

            That’s grossly uninformed and wildly inaccurate. I just provided numbers showing it is just as fast and efficient. Plus you don’t put wear on the port as some people put stress on the charge port. Also, the battery isn’t getting any hotter than if you plugged it in. Same voltages; why would it be hotter? Try using it. It’ll provide better insight than just what you read about it. Worse case scenario is you don’t like it. 😉

          • vzwuser76

            I can tell you from experience the battery was much hotter than charging it with the standard charger. Wired it would be slightly warm, using my wireless charger it was hot enough you didn’t want to hold it for long, and because of that I wouldn’t leave it charge over night either.

            I’ve read the studies that say wireless can be as efficient as wired, but in many of the cases they’re talking about, what’s actually more efficient is the power supply, not the power transfer itself. And what you’re referring to is simply ramping up the voltage and current to offset the loss you will encounter in inductive charging. In fast wireless charging as you pointed out, they need to go much higher voltage and power to come close to or match what fast charging wired connections are accomplishing. That means it’s not as efficient, but they’re ramping everything up to match what wired is doing with lower voltage and power.

            My point wasn’t to say that they can’t be faster when they crack up the juice, but that induction isn’t as efficient a physical connection.

  • Orion

    The bigger Nexus better be at least 5.7

    • Rod

      They should make it 10″

      • Aaron

        Let’s make it 12″ with an attachable keyboard. /S

  • Chaz Allright

    Time to sell the HTC 10

    • nexodus09

      I feel bad for you that you even bought it in the first place.

  • Ray

    If these rumors turn out to be true for the 5. Than the Nexus 6 will be a beast of a phone. I wasn’t going to upgrade from my 6P. But now I might have to if it comes with a 823 snapdragon and 6 GB of ram..

    • Mike Aurin

      It will NOT have 6gb of ram.

      • Ray

        They wont release a 5 with 4gb and a 6 with 4gb. So am pretty sure it will be 6gb or more.

        • Mike Aurin

          I bet you the top tier Nexus this year will be released with 4gb of ram.

          • nexodus09

            Everyone watch out Nostradamus is in the house

          • SpaceJIMM

            He wants a word with you.

  • Francesco Vaccarella

    That small battery tho, disappointing if true

    • It’s slightly larger than the Nexus 5x which has a 5.2″ display.

      • socarwolverine

        But massively smaller than my 5″ phone from 2013.

        • vzwuser76

          But the CPUs weren’t as efficient back then either.

          • socarwolverine

            Yes, but why not keep the larger battery with the more efficient CPU?

          • vzwuser76

            Because Google hates you. Not the general public, you specifically.

  • alberteezy

    Bottom firing speakers and small battery?! Are you kidding me?! Still waiting for the perfect 5″ phone.

    • aleubalton

      I still don’t understand why no OEM has built a phone with top-and-bottom stereo speakers, in order to keep the bezels narrow. (I hate it when they excuse themselves for having huge bezels because they put stereo speakers in…)

      • CabbageHeadCat.

        Because top and bottom firing speakers aren’t stereo when in portrait mode and your hands cover them while in landscape. Front facing speakers are the best way. For me the bezels on the too and bottom aren’t great but they aren’t that bad either. Sure they could shave a quarter of an inch off.

      • JRomeo

        the Nexus 6P has top and bottom stereo speakers.

        • Corey Watford

          read his comment again

    • Jeremiah Payne

      2014 moto x was soooo close to perfect imo

      • CabbageHeadCat.

        It really was perfect for me, until I went to Fi. Bittersweet, but the 6p is pretty great. Best Nexus so far. I just miss the feel of that curved leather back.

        • Shemly Golam

          how can it be the best when it got rid of wireless charging?

      • alberteezy

        Battery size kept me away

      • Rod

        Too big

    • cadtek91

      How is 2770 small? :s

      • ChrisI

        Did you mean /s or :s?

        • cadtek91

          :s, no sarcasm intended.

      • calculatorwatch

        People don’t get that smaller screens use less battery. I don’t hear anyone saying the 5x gets bad battery life and it only has 2700mAh. This one has an even smaller screen so it should be just fine.

        • steadymobb

          No. My s6 had that size battery and a 5″screen …the battery isn’t horrible but it should definitely be bigger… Anything less than 3000mah is disappointing

          • calculatorwatch

            The S6 battery is nearly as much smaller than this one as this one is smaller than 3000mAh. (3000-2770 = 230, 2770-2550 = 220)

            Besides it’s a Samsung so it doesn’t count. The battery life wouldn’t have been so terrible without all that TouchWiz jank.

          • Duffman

            As much as I dislike Samsung and Touchwiz, your argument doesn’t hold water. The Note 5 gets better battery life than the 6P with a smaller battery. Sure, software makes a difference, but Samsung holds onto the best hardware for their phones, which is why the Note 5 has such great battery life for the size of the battery.

          • calculatorwatch

            The battery life issue was really only on the Qualcomm chips so of course the Note 5 wouldn’t have it. I suppose I could place as much of the blame on the SD 810, but when your OS fails to play nice with a CPU, I still call that jank. The Exynos version of the S6 I believe got really solid battery life and even pretty amazing for its size just like the Note 5.

            Either way, it’s still comparing a year old phone with a slightly larger QHD display and smaller battery to a 1080p display on a much more modern processor and a different version of Android. It’s hard to imagine that they would be all that similar.

      • alberteezy

        I think most people agree. Not nearly enough screen on time.

        • cadtek91

          Well a 1080p screen and it being 5″ will help. SOT is very very subjective.

    • ChrisI

      Saygus v2 on the way!!

    • Me

      Gonna be waiting awhile

      • alberteezy

        Yes sadly i know that. If only Sony got there things in order.

    • Corey Watford

      Currently that would be the S7 or HTC 10, but If the S8 gets front facing speakers, game over bro game over lol

      • alberteezy

        S7 almost had it down. I just hate how one company did bottom firing and now everyone does it. Apple, HTC, Samsung, OP3 and now Google? Geez
        Hopefully someone does it next year to get off speakers back.

  • Wes

    Unless it is spec for spec (minus battery) what the bigger brother is, it still isn’t what the 5X should have been. It will be even worse when they are trying to push VR this year if the smaller model is 1080p.

  • TimXer

    Thought you would’ve bounced on the top headphone jack

  • Kacho_ON

    Why are you expecting the Nexus announcement to be in August when last year it was in September?

  • Slot_Machine

    no Qi charging?

  • LiterofCola

    The X Performance sounds better

    • LiterofCola

      international version anyway

  • Jprime

    Hope the camera doesn’t lag like crazy

  • baranmod

    These rumors… 😀 I mean, this info could fit every new 2016’s phone, couldn’t it?

    • Suicide_Note

      Nope.

  • Troy

    OLED display or bust. Only reason why I’m using a Nexus 6P while owning an iPhone 6s +

    • Michael Contreras

      I love OLED displays except for annoying burn-ins. I remember noticing burn-ins from the notification center and nav buttons within months. Didn’t have that problem when I had my old Nexus 4 way back when. The new Nexus 5 would be a nice Nexus to get back into the Nexus club.

      • I love the way AMOLED looks in the dark. Especially when compared to a LCD screen were you can see the back light bleeding through. I keep hearing about burn ins but thankfully it’s never happened to any of my devices

    • Diefanbluehard

      Stop it.. amoled is overrated. You’re helping to ruin phones for people with good taste.

      • Troy

        Not “good” taste but “personal” taste. I gave my personal opinion. My opinion has no power over phone manufacturers. AMOLED doesn’t have accurate colors but not everyone prefers accurate colors on a smartphone.

        • Aaron

          AMOLED is my taste, too. I’ll take the yellowish whites of my N6 over the ghosting and worse viewing angles of my 5x. Or I would if the 6 fit better in my pocket.