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Galaxy Note 4 Powered by 64-bit Exynos 5433 Benchmarked, Only Beat by One Other Chipset

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New benchmarks have hit AnTuTu this week, showing off the performance of the upcoming Galaxy Note 4 from Samsung, powered by an Exynos 5433 processor. The 5433 is Samsung’s new in-house 64-bit octa-core processor, featuring four Cortex-A57 cores and four Cortex-A53 cores. In addition to enhancements made to the CPU, the GPU featured is a next-gen Mali-T760, capable of keeping pace and even outperforming the Snapdragon 805 and its Adreno 420 GPU. 

From what the benchmarks show us, only one processor is currently benchmarked higher, that being NVIDIA’s own Tegra K1 processor which powers the SHIELD Tablet. As of right now, no phone available on the market currently features the Tegra K1 processor.

According to the latest data collected, the two Galaxy Note 4 variants powered by both the Exynos 5433 (overseas) and Snapdragon 805 (US variant) will be powered by 3GB of RAM; not 4GB like previously rumored.

The other bit of info provided from the benchmark shows that 3D graphic performance on the device’s QHD display is better handled by the Exynos 5433, while basic 2D renderings are basically identical. Even though the Exynos 5433 outperforms the Snapdragon 805 a tad in this category, both are supercharged processors, meaning buyers probably won’t have anything to worry about with regard to mobile gaming and web browsing.

We will be on-hand in New York at Samsung’s satellite event for the Galaxy Note 4 announcement, so you can guarantee that there will be plenty of Note 4 coverage coming up, followed by a full review of the device.

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Via: GSM Arena
  • Kean Kakeesh

    i have a note 3 with slim rom on it and it is super smooth much better than lagywize

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  • Paul

    I’m using my note 3 unrooted and have done since the day it was released without any lag whatsoever. However my tab s is a lag monster. I don’t think mentioning lag is trolling or makes you an isheep. It’s a fact manufacturers should address.

    • LivinInThe_808

      True. My Tab S 8.4 lags too. Have tried messing with some things in the Dev settings and it doesn’t really help it all that much

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  • gmatth

    Anyone know if it will be waterproof like the S5?

  • Tony G.

    i dont know why, but i want that extra 1gb of ram. 4gb just sounds like a winner

  • Ajmcnicol

    Long as the new Exynos (if its in the US variant) has integrated LTE and not reliant on another power-sucking chip like in the past, it should be a great competitor to the Snapdragon.
    I have always liked Samsung’s chips. Considering their manufacturing capabilities and engineering capabilities, they are one of the few people can can give Qualcom a run for their money if they really wanted.

    • Joe J

      Yes exynos chips use to crush snapdragons. Snapdragon took the lead in the US with the 600 800 and no built in lte. But if you really look at CPU not GPU performance the exynos is usually faster at a much lower clock rate and much longer battery life. Now being 20nm 64bit built in lte its cream of the crop

  • Dominic Giordano

    Pat on the back Samsung now all you have to do is optimize Touch Wiz!

  • jgemberton

    Power management comparisons? At this point, that’s all I’m concerned about.

  • Chippah

    LG dropped the Ball, they should have pushed the G2 harder and dropped the G3 this fall
    with bumped specs to compete, now they are behind the curve.

    • dave4978

      The G3 is a mess.

  • Justin Kos

    Dont like sammy phones, but I make an exception for the note series, great device for the power user.

  • haroldhendu

    *beaten

  • yankeesusa

    All I want now is less bloatware and qi wireless charging and also the new 700 bands for LTE on tmobile.

    • duo thai

      I don’t really know what to be looking for but I don’t see a 700 band listed here http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-4_id8577

      Which then makes me ask if the note 4 doesn’t even have the 700 what freaking phone does?

      • yankeesusa

        The phone hasn’t even been announced. Plus T-Mobile hasn’t announced it either. We won’t know till then.

        • duo thai

          I would assume the fcc filling will be made public before September 3. I hope it has 700 as well but I’m not getting my hopes up. On the plus side it would give t mobile an extra year to roll out their network for the note 5 :)

          • yankeesusa

            Hopefully it will. The rumored Sony z3 went through fcc and it has the 700 band capability. Plus T-Mobile already has several towers broadcasting in 700 already. Their moving really quick on these upgrades.

  • http://www.facebook.com/tony.damiani.pr Tony Damiani

    1st thing to do Install Nova Launcher Prime.
    2nd Disable any bloatware.

    And for those like me who want something more. Root and finish.

  • KoreaGreen

    Quality, Trust, Service= Samsung and LG………

  • hkklife

    Snapdragon will still have QuickCharge, which is a huge feature no one really talks about. I am still waiting for official QC chargers to hit the market, by the way!

    • Pumpkin King

      Now that is something that sounds interesting

  • meir cohen

    samsung- in
    apple -out

    • Pumpkin King

      Apple was never really in. Only by the sheep belief of naive fan boy and the tech illiterate

  • Dave

    It’s funny how DL would let trolls bash on this site saying the same thing over and over in every post/articles on here. I KNOW the administrator of this site won’t do anything about people trolling on this site which is very sad, (and I thought PA was worse but now DL is the number one that has a lot of bias on this site than any other tech site). Since DL won’t do anything about it or bane the 5 accounts that is linked to one person, than I will bash and spam this site until something is done, and stop deleting my comment, I will just copy and past it over and over again, funny how you guys will delete my comment and not the troll, that tells you clearly that this site is F@@@ing bias!

  • tiger

    But but but it only has 3gb RAM!! 64 bit???? Pure marketing!!!!!!!!! Octa??? Pure marketing!!!!!

    We want our 20 yrs old chip architecture back!!!! ARMv7 rules baby!!!!

    Pure marketing!! Why are you Android folks want this?? We need to band together and go against this marketing trend!!!!

    Oh wait, Android folks are hupocrits!

    • Suicide_Note

      Reading this made my head hurt.

      • tiger

        Well, now, you know how much my head hurts when i read such ignorance from Android folks (and Qualcomm marketing head!) this past year….

    • Ben Edwards

      Umm….what?

      • tiger

        I am just repeating the ignorant mantra that you Phandroids kept blabbering about over this past year!

    • 213ninja

      whoooaaa, calm down there tiger…

  • SJ

    Apple A7 beaten by Tegra 4. L. O. L.

    • Schivre

      Could you please just get laid already?

  • Rod

    So what, Samsung will make it lag.

    • SG

      So what, you can root it and install a custom rom .. quit whining

      • Schivre

        Or I can get a phone from a company that doesn’t totally suck dick like Samsung

        • SG

          every phone has shitware installed no matter where you go ..so again..quit whining

          • Rod

            Nexus doesn’t

            Neither does iphone

          • Pumpkin King

            Lol!!!!! IPhone doesn’t lag!!!! I didn’t realize you were a comedian hahahaha.
            It might not lag as much as some phones if you have the 5s at best. But it still does and 4-4s-5 do a good bit.

            What ios leads in by a large margin across all smartphones is app crashes

          • regkilla

            My iPhone 5s lags way less than my quad-core LG Android.

          • Pumpkin King

            So you claim. And which lg is that? As well point proven.
            Even the iPhone 5s lags. When supposedly it has the most powerful chip…”cough lol” and has the most lightweight stable os…”COUGH”. And it’s so supremely optimized. Because it only has to be developed for one controlled phone.
            Yet it suffers a veey harsh reality. IOS is system wide locked down. That’s were it’s tiny speed advantages come from. That in conjunction with lacking most current/advanced/user friendly functions. It’s literally used as an illusion to fake perfection. And to be lazy and not have to develop/support/troubleshoot function/features/bugs. However it’s a flawed and failed illusion.

            It lags plenty, has the most crashes of AL smartphone os’s,  and has some of the buggies releases known to humanity every year. And then it takes almost until the next version release to squash all those bugs in like 10 major updates….if they even all get squashed….all together negating the whole entire purpose….for the user at least.

            And non of that even addresses the fact that they sell you excessively over priced aging hardware that’s only on par with lower and mid range devices currently at the same price as super phones.

            But in the end they call it all magical innovation and millions of people all over the world bend over and take it then get on the Internet and flame everything else in existence in complete denial if the reality of it all.

          • yankeesusa

            What LG phone is that?

          • yankeesusa

            Then buy an iphone or a nexus. Although the nexus would be a better choice in my opinion. Also the nexus is open while the iphone makes you sign over your kid to be able to do anything on it.

        • Pumpkin King

          So in other words no phone at all?

      • Rod

        So, you buy a flagship, and must void your warranty and take a course to be able to use your top of line device decently.

        This is why people buy iPhones

        • Pumpkin King

          Nobody said that. You just trolled it

        • yankeesusa

          Then go buy an iphone. If there is any lag is almost unnoticeable. My brother in law has an iphone and everytime I use it I’m like, hold on, where are the widgets, why do I have to go through all these apps to find one, where is google now? Yes, the iphone is a great phone but it’s just not for me, I can do much more with android. But I’m no fanboy. I will try anything electronic and you bet I will try the next ios with the iphone 6 but like always I will probably still love my android.

    • Pumpkin King

      As opposed to Sony lag htc lag apple lag Nokia lag. They all have lag

    • yankeesusa

      Then don’t buy it. Plenty of people other people will. In most of my time of owning the Note 2 I never had any lag issues till the end, which was solved by rooting and installing a bloatware free stock touchwiz rom. Also, most phones with custom ui will lag at some point, its a matter of having the right power under the hood to help prevent that or keep it at bay.

  • Maranello Santiago

    Might as well keep my Note 3?

    • 213ninja

      why? what were you expecting?

      • PoisonApple31

        4 GB of RAM!? =P

        • 213ninja

          i know, that seems to be the theme of this thread. i never trusted that “leaked” retailer page….that source was so sketchy i can’t believe DL ran it.

          i would have like 4GB’s too but it’s all good. the 3GB’s in my 3 seem to do a beast of a job, so if the new proc gets me some added horsepower i’ll be fine.

  • ImmaDroid

    Look how far things have come since the spapdragon S4. More than double what that pushed out! And look at Apples A7 left in the dust. Man technology sure improves greatly year over year. And people complain about a phone having a Snapdragon 801 instead of 805. lol, crazy.

    • tiger

      Apple on antutu?? How do you even run that?

      • rstat1

        Simple. Open the App Store, search for Antutu, press download, then when its done run it. Not hard.

    • regkilla

      Wait for the iPhone 6 soon…

      • yankeesusa

        Just like we waited for apple to included copy and paste, still waiting on installing 3rd party keyboards, still waiting on nfc and wireless charging… what else…. I guess we’ll find out when apple says “and now for a new feature that no one has”….

  • Joe J

    The return of Exynos. Don’t sleep on the Samsung SOC they are more power efficient while having the same or better proc speeds

  • RoadsterHD1

    WOW!!!

  • Dave

    Still waiting for a Dell Alienware phone….LoL.

    • Finire

      Alienware went down the crapper when Dell purchased it.

      • SG

        dell was crap without purchasing alienware so what’d you expect

      • monkeybutts

        Dell does make some pretty decent tablets these days though for both android and windows.

  • DrewNusser

    Crazy that the K1 is still so dominant, and they haven’t even officially released the 64-bit one yet. Nvidia is way ahead of the game right now – just need to get it into more toys.

    • Joe J

      It is nvidia afterall. The graphics kings. But what is battery life like with the K1.

      • 213ninja

        what is nvidia afterall?

        • Joe J

          Nvidia as in the #1 graphics company for years /decade. So why wouldnt they have a fast soc with a power hungry gpu

          • 213ninja

            i read your comment out of context. i’m not sure why you felt you needed to explain to me who nvidia is, but thanks.

    • Pumpkin King

      Not really. That’s FullHD for the K1 while the 5433 is pushing QHD

      • DrewNusser

        Good point – we’ll have to wait for the K1 to actually be on a QHD device before getting a fair comparison, and I’m sure that’ll make the scores closer. The MiPad has a 1536×2048 resolution, which is pretty close to QHD, and I’ve seen it score anywhere from 39,263 to 40,939, so fairly similar to the Exynos.

        Still though, the 64-bit version of the K1 is supposedly gonna be in devices within a month or two of this Exynos, and it sounds like it’s going to blow the 32-bit version out of the water.

        • Pumpkin King

          Very true. I wonder which will get better support.

  • Justin

    Note 4, take my money!!

  • wtd2009

    probably won’t buy unless it’s 64-bit proofed. would prefer to have that luuxery if they ‘re going to get into that in the next year or so.

    • Diablo81588

      It won’t get you anything you don’t currently have.

    • 213ninja

      why?

      • wtd2009

        well i probably wont upgrade for at least a couple years after getting my next device, it would be nice to know that it could take more advantage of whatever android comes up with, and seeing as how there is ap ush for 64 bit in both hardware and OS, i assume this is part of that picture.

        • 213ninja

          well if you’re looking at 2016 i guess i see your point but i don’t have 64bit computing making a big impact on mobiles for quite awhile. the tech is trending in that direction, but realizing 64bit advantages in mobile will take time…i think any 32bit device you selected this year would make you happy in the foreseeable future. just my personal thoughts.

          • CoreRooted

            THIS. 64bit on a mobile device at this time is simply overkill and marketing hype. There isn’t a single mobile app out there that would benefit from the incredibly small boost that 64bit processing would provide.

  • yummy

    I do not need, but I do want, therefor I am.

  • Bryan Mills

    Exynos never comes to the US (Except Note 2) and the K1 never will either.

    Not like these will help lag without good software anyways.

    • Kane Desousa

      My shield tablet has the k1. So what are you saying?

      • Bryan Mills

        I’m obviously talking about phones. I even mentioned the Note 2.

        • Joe J

          It was because of no built in LTE that is not the case now

          • Bryan Mills

            Still won’t come here.

          • Joe J

            WRONG

          • Bryan Mills

            Yeah, you’re wrong. I know that.

    • Pumpkin King

      S1 and s2 I believe as well. The hummingbird chip is the same line. Just a name change.

  • Jprime

    Lag 4

    • 213ninja

      dumb4

      • Schivre

        Don’t talk about yourself that way, baby

        • 213ninja

          did you just flirt with me????

  • The Doctor

    BTW, where’s the resident Samsung shill? He’s late to the party. His posts are the GOLD STANDARD of Samsung posts.

    • Dave

      It’s probably in the rough draft stage currently….

  • DanielMena9

    Where is that Apple fanboy I remember from a couple of post back worshipping his A7, now?! It actually ranks quite low. I doubt the test took advantage of 64 bit but unsure … anybody capable of shining some light on the test?

    • stacky

      Somebody did shine some light last year when they were caught faking these bench mark tests with Note 3 and S4.

      • DanielMena9

        :D very true, darn samsung

        but this test also has current processors like the 805 above the A7, which still leaves me with the question, does this benchmark take into account / test 64 bit processing power or only 32 bit? I assume multi-core already taken into the score

        EDIT: Assuming the 805 / 801 are not Samsung powered phones like LGs or other.

        • stacky

          I hope this test is all true :-)

    • Bryan Mills

      Can’t wait to see the A8 this year when they have 2GB of RAM.

    • Joe J

      I’m no apple fanboy but the A7 is a great processor and droid procs have only recently caught up

      • DanielMena9

        >.< I cringed when you said "droid" processors.

        According to this graph the Snapdragon 800 which was released over a year ago, topped the A7. I think the A7 tops it in the graphics department however.

        • Joe J

          haha yes droid. I type shorthand all the time. The a7 is a dual core and it crushes all the quads and is 64bit. The quads in that synthetic benchmark only show about a 10-15% improvement. Thats pretty sad

          • Diablo81588

            Different platform means benchmark comparisons are worthless. Unless someone figures out how to run Android on iOS devices..

          • Joe J

            Well geekbench 3 is cross platform and my ipad mini retina scores higher than all my droids. (nexus 5 g2 g3 one plus one ) and also renders web pages faster.

          • Diablo81588

            Cross platform or not, they’re still running on different platforms. Android is a true multitasking OS, where iOS pauses apps that are not in the foreground in memory and is only running one app at a time. Only a few apps are allowed to run simultaneously in the background, such as music apps. Also, rendering web pages quicker doesn’t make the processor faster, just means iOS or the browser is more efficient in performing that task. Again, find a way to put android on an iOS device and we can compare results.

          • Joe J

            Ok let me break it down for you.

            The a7 is a more advanced soc

            The Snapdragon is old and clocked high.
            The a7 with dual and much lower clock speed is on par with the powerhungry snapdragon.
            The a7 = haswell i5

            Snapdragon = Core 2 quad overclocked

            And now the a8 is coming

          • Diablo81588

            You are a complete fool if you think the ultra low tdp a7 comes anywhere near the performance of an Intel core i5.. They are not even in the same league.. Your idiotic comment just proved you have no clue what you’re talking about.

          • Joe J

            The only fool is you. I’ve been in the proc overclocking game for years. In fact one of my overclocked procs was ranked 13th in the world over a 4 million database running on air cooling. Foolish little diablo game playing boy. Get your facts straight instead of spouting old news about android being able to multitask therefor its faster. Memory is more important for multitasking. Go read up on soc architecture and you will realize the a7 and a8 has been a gen ahead of anything from android. Thus the core 2 duo to haswell architecture comparison. I know what I’m talking about while i type on my sandybridge i7 2600k oc to 5.2ghz 4.8ghz daily for over 3 years.

          • Diablo81588

            Whatever. You’re worse than a fence post. If you think you know so much about processors then you should realize the stupidity in comparing a desktop class processor to a power saving ultra low watt mobile processor.

            By the way, my user name is from diablo paintballs. I don’t own nor have ever played that game.

          • Joe J

            Remember you insulted me first. I was using the i5 to core 2 quad example as in the generation in architecture. Thus an older design core 2 quad would need to be highly overclocked (s800 2.5ghz) to be near the performance of an i5 ( a7 1.3ghz)

          • Diablo81588

            Sounded like you were comparing the haswell i5 to the a7. I’m fully aware that you can’t compare different architectures based on clock speed. I’d still like to see how the a7 would perform if it were running android.

          • Pumpkin King

            Insulting and calling out are not the same thing. You insulted first and did so out of butthurt for being called out

          • Joe J

            Since pumpkin was calling me out. This chart should give you some hard data how ARM compares to Intel.

            http://browser.primatelabs.com/user/SeattleJoeJ/geekbench2

          • Pumpkin King

            Not buying it. After how foolish you made yourself sound this just looks like a bunch of fairy tale gloating or wish full thinking.
            Try harder or maybe even look up the word fact

          • Joe J

            Fact
            http://browser.primatelabs.com/user/SeattleJoeJ/geekbench2
            Fact

            Out of all variant g3s mine is ranked first and the only one to break 1000 on single core

            Fact
            You are a troll with a fitting name

          • mcdonsco

            Me thinks you missed the comparison he was making…completely…(not that I agree/disagree, was just REALLY obvious, you missed it entirely).

          • Joe J

            He did miss my comparison but whats shocking for those guys is that arm socs have reached i-core levels and actual surpass all desktops older than a few year in on chip graphic performance.
            The apple a7 64bit can execute at i5 speeds

            http://browser.primatelabs.com/user/SeattleJoeJ/geekbench2

          • Pumpkin King

            So in other words you are a foolish fan boy navigation exaggerating myths to be facts to fit how you would like to perceive things understood.

          • yankeesusa

            For me specs don’t matter, what matters is real world use. I have the nexus 7 and ipad mini retina. Their both great but with the nexus I can do so much more even though supposedly the ipad is smoother and better. My nexus 5 compared to my wifes iphone 5 was supposed to be worse yet my wife is always asking for my nexus because she can’t do something on her iphone. Yes the iphone and ipads are great and if you have the right use for it then go for it. But I always find myself coming back to android because of the openness and ability to do so much more. Yes, you can jailbreak and get a lot of features but then you open yourself to malware. In the end it’s whatever works for you. My wife ended up switching to android after her iphone went in for repair and now she loves her new g3 and android. I’ll still try the next iphone just to try it but I love my android os more. That’s just my opinion and what works for me whether a processor comparison says otherwise or not.

          • Joe J

            Definitely everyone has different needs. Funny i have a nexus 7 and while nice I still love the ipads web browsing speeds better. Tablets for me are media consumption devices. While 12″ laptops are mobile productivity units. I always bought my parents iphones for their ease of use but they wanted galaxies and now use notes and love the screen size.

          • yankeesusa

            That is very true. I like using the browser on my wife’s iPad better than my nexus. I also got my mom an iPhone due to ease of os. It all depends what you like and need out of a phone.

  • Mark Wiggins

    Pathetic

  • The Doctor

    Only 3 GB of RAM and the Snapdragon 805 in the US? That’s not enough for me to ditch the G3.

    • Pedro

      Did you seriously just post that the specs of an unreleased are NOT enough to to get you to dump your 2 month old phone?
      That just .. shiny!

      • The Doctor

        Well, from all of the rumors I’ve heard, the Note 4 was supposed to have 4 GB of RAM and the 805. Okay. I can live with that. But now the specs are going to be slightly better than the G3. Now there’s no need to upgrade because the specs of the Note 4 is only slightly better, not much better like it was supposed to be.

        • 213ninja

          it’s still rocking an 805….so it sounds like the deal breaker for you is that extra GB of RAM….not sure why you put so many eggs in that basket. 3GB is plenty.

        • PoisonApple31

          I can cross out 3 GB of RAM on the back of the Note 4 box and write 4 GB for you.

    • Maranello Santiago

      In theory that doesnt truly sound like enough to ditch a Note 3.

    • 213ninja

      what did you expect?

      • The Doctor

        I don’t know…something more advanced than the Note 3? This doesn’t sound more advanced at all. In fact, it almost sounds like the same damn phone.

        • 213ninja

          that’s where we are…these are refreshes at this point. a new processor, sharper display, and a bunch of the S5 addons is what they’ll tout as the improvements, along with a few Note/s-pen centric software enhancements. it was the same thing last year going from the Note 2 to the Note 3…..same thing going from G2 to G3…….same thing going from m7 to m8………….s4 to s5……………all just refreshes…..

          • hkklife

            Personally I was hoping for a new formfactor, even though I was 99% certain we wouldn’t get it. Maybe a debut of a new lightened TW, a larger screen with onscreen buttons and a curved display? But I agree—the leap from the Note 3 to 4 seems the most incremental in the history of the range. I think I will hold onto my Note 3 and wait until something with USB type C connectivity appears!

  • stacky

    I am a big time Android fan but it’s hard to trust Samsung after they faked these benchmark results last year.

    • Guest

      They did?

    • http://tommydaniel.com Tommy Thompson

      You mean the same way HTC did..and still does?

      • stacky

        Yes.. HTC as well. Sailing the same boat.

        • http://tommydaniel.com Tommy Thompson

          Key point though. Samsung stopped with the S5.

      • malcmilli

        HTC got around that by letting you actually go into performance mode to achieve those benchmark CPU settings.

    • Dave

      Current AnTuTu has anti cheat tech finally.

    • Pumpkin King

      You mean the way htc and lg did also and still were. As almost all oems were. And it was not faked. Just full potential of the chip.
      Or how Nokia faked camera ads? Or how apple fakes a smart phone in the biggest money making scam of them all?

      • jarredsutherland

        You mean because the iPhone just works and millions enjoy using it? That scam?

        • Pumpkin King

          Welcome to the tech world. I can see that this is your first day. I know it can be scary at times. I suggest a couple years of studying. While doing so I also suggest looking up some words like facts or reality.
          Good luck.

      • malcmilli

        HTC actually lets you use the full potential of the chip though. You can run your phone in “benchmark mode” if you wanted to.

        • Pumpkin King

          That was quite a long time afterwards and only done so as to counter all the backlash. Boost mode

          • malcmilli

            but it exists none the less.

          • Pumpkin King

            Never said it didnt. However it did not exist until Samsung had already stopped theirs and htc and lg were still going with it.
            At the time it had not existed. It does now.

          • malcmilli

            That’s only because Samsung was busted first. But i’m saying there’s no point in talking about a year ago, we’re talking about today. If it exists, there’s no need to knock. Nor should one be blamed for what they did 2 years ago or whatever.

          • Pumpkin King

            No. People focused on Samsung more because most if the Internet world is filled with jealous haters.
            And you really shouldn’t comment on something if you don’t even know the basis of it.

    • rstat1

      You mean those benchmarks that are in no way represententive of actual real world performace and are completely pointless?

  • Mark Wiggins

    When will android start innovating

    • Bryan Mills

      Android L.

    • Pumpkin King

      What planet are you from?

  • jokes

    But can it run touchwiz?

    • Mark Wiggins

      Not only can it run jellybean…. It nearly keeps up with my safari phone. Close but no cigar beaches

    • Vai

      Best comment ever.. Touchwiz will lag with any processor!

      • Pumpkin King

        You mean like the lag in every other phone on Earth because all technology has issues….logic…you’re missing

        • Teksu

          MotoX here, what is this “lag” you speak of?

          • JoshGroff

            Nexus 5 here, no clue…

          • jlsushman

            Naked Note 3. What is lag?

          • http://www.rebelwithoutaclue.com/ Rebel without a Clue

            I havent got a clue anyway ;)

          • TheDrunkenClam

            Exactly.
            When manufacturers blast their Skins (Thouchwiz, Sense, etc) all over Android, it causes sluggishness and redundancies.
            I wish they would just make the hardware, and let google make the software.

          • michael arazan

            Or at least give people a choice to Buy their phones with Vanilla android. I’d still buy a Top tier device from HTC, Sammy or LG if it has what I want, like dual speakers and a good camera.

            These companies could save a ton of money letting Google do the software and updates, and take all their added software in their Skins, turn them into apps specific for their phones only that you could keep or discard. And if the apps are so “Good”, they could sell them in the App stores for additional profit for all other phones.

          • Pumpkin King

            I think it’s trying to communicate.

        • malcmilli

          yeah they all have lag, but there’s a difference between 20 ms of lag and 20 seconds of lag.

          • Pumpkin King

            Point? Oh yeah. Butthurt jealous trolling. Just like all the isheep say every android does nothing but lags like hell and claims ios doesnt lag at all.
            like all wp users make the same claim.
            And like all Sony fans say about htc and samsung.
            Same with LG and htc and Samsung fans.

            Sorry I only speak of reality.

          • malcmilli

            Sometimes it is trolling. But a lot of times trolling starts from a point of truth, and then it just gets exaggerated and overblown. So yeah touchwhiz devices often times do not feel as smooth as a nexus devices or even HTC devices with the same processor. So that’s where the lag statement comes into play. Its really not that big of a deal or even that noticeable unless you are side by side with another device. And that’s the same with many iphone users. People have been claiming their android phones didnt have lag for the past 5 years, and that’s simply not true. Its not that big of a deal, or THAT laggy, but it exists. And it bothers some more than others.

            I actually have a g3, and it’s not as fast as the m8 at all. but im ok with that, i wanted a better camera. Coming from the nexus 4 i was in dire need of non blurry photos.

          • Pumpkin King

            Nexus is stock android. It’s basically the smoothest experience. Sense is not quite as smooth in most cases either.
            In reference to the iphone…it lags to. They all do. Touchwiz is not as perfectly smooth as nexus or dinosaur ios, but is not laggy. However they all lag. But everyone claims theirs doesnt. You can mostly blame that on isheep with their religious crusade of how perfect and godly ios is and how supposedly android does nothing but lag.

          • malcmilli

            You cant say they all lag and then say one device isnt as smooth as another, but that has nothing to do with lag. What do you call it then?

          • Pumpkin King

            Sure. That’s what I said. Maybe you should take up some reading/comprehension courses.

          • malcmilli

            “…it lags too. They all do. Touchwiz is not as perfectly smooth as nexus or dinosaur ios, but is not laggy.” Would you like to break it down for me then? Since i can’t understand.

          • Pumpkin King

            If you cannot understand that you are beyond my help or just a jealous fanboy purposefully twisting the words to your own agenda…which also puts you beyond my help.
            Either way. Good luck with that.

          • malcmilli

            twisting what words. I’m literally asking you a question. If one device is not as smooth as another device, then what do you call that? Because people around these parts refer to that as lag. And you just said touchwiz isnt as smooth as others.

          • Pumpkin King

            There’s a difference between fast/faster and sluggish/faster.
            And nice denial there.

          • malcmilli

            Ok so you said all phones have lag, and if two phones have the exact same processor, and one is faster than the other, then doesn’t that mean the less fast one has slightly more lag?

          • Pumpkin King

            That is again not what you or the tells have claimed. You are now sugar coating yourself.
            And I will say it again. There isa difference between fast and faster compared to the claim of sluggish and faster. Just because one can do things a little quicker does not mean the other is having system lag.

          • malcmilli

            And I’m asking you what you call that effect. It has to be called something. If you have 2 devices that have the exact same internals and they only differ in software and one is faster than the other. What is the cause of that? What do you call the less fast phone? Users here label that as lag. Not that it’s some super slow pos or anything. We are all talking about super impressive powerful phones and we’re. splitting hairs here but one can indeed by a little laggier than another due to its software.

          • Pumpkin King

            That’s not what you started out with or what everyone has claimed. And again. Just one be faster than an other does not make the other laggy. Yes something like the nexus runs smoother by a bit. Now if you turn on all the features at once or run the system down to low space it can get a little laggy. Can Touchwiz have a slight more delay? Yes. However it’s not very common. On a more than normal basis it runs just fine. Anything out of the ordinary is something that all devices faces at times.

        • Vai

          Why so serious? Every Samsung phone I have used has had a better processor each time and the lag problem doesn’t get fixed. I’m just saying touch wiz always lags.

          • Pumpkin King

            Why so trolling? I’m just saying here in reality any Symbian, ios, android, wm, wp, by phone I have ever used has had some stutter and the Touchwiz devices I have been using run about the same as all other similar devices.
            That’s no different than isheep claiming android as a whole is super laggy. Same exact scenario actually.

          • Vai

            I’m sorry but I have to disagree completely with that… There is no way that touch wiz runs the same and stutters just as much as any other phone! Open the gallery on my dad’s note 3 and on my nexus 5, he has an extra 1gb of ram and we have the same processor.. His takes 7 seconds longer to open. Touch wiz is riddled with lag. I used to have a galaxy s3, it was so laggy it was unbearable.. I had to move to stock android and I’ve never looked back since.

          • Pumpkin King

            Lol! Right… cause here in reality even on my note 2 and s3 the gallery opens within a a couple seconds. And I have gigs of photos. Yet you imply on note 3 it takes more than 7 seconds. Cute story. And duh the nexus runs a tad smoother on compete stock firmware….imagine that.

          • Vai

            Deadly serious.. We both have like 8gb of photos each and the last time we timed it.. It took 7 seconds longer to open. Stock android runs not slightly smoother.. A lot smoother.

          • Pumpkin King

            Oh ok. So if it’s true…which I doubt…means that just because his does means that represents all the other millions. Or could just be him running too many apps or low on system storage. That’s the only time I faced stuttering more often was low system/app storage.
            But if we are basing this all of one supposed claim of one particular phone then I guess considering every product made in existence has at least one flawed out come so everything ever made in the entire world sucks really bad. I like the way you think….

          • anehlo

            Couldn’t the same be said about you? Just because yours doesn’t doesn’t mean that others don’t experience lag on TouchWiz devices? There are actually quite a number of articles and reviews that talk about the Galaxy S5 lag, and most of the blame is attributed to TouchWiz since the hardware is strong.

          • Pumpkin King

            Nope. Because I already mentioned more than one device and imply to many more than just the two mentored. Try harder.
            Yeah the Internet is also full of haters claiming all galaxies to be made of cheap crappy plastic and Amoled is the trashiest display tech around. Forums are filled with jealous hate. While in greater numbers to Samsung because of butthurt it is fat from limited to just Samsung.

            Again. There are also endless pages of millions of people claiming how android as a whole is nothing but bugs and lags.

            But from the start you have made it clear you are not ingested in facts

          • anehlo

            Oh, man – I would try and reply, but I really cannot make out what you’re saying. Your written communication skills are childlike.

            In any case, only the weak minded call people haters instead of engaging with them on an intellectual level and arguing with valid points. And all those “haters” in the forums that say the Galaxy S5 lags are actually Galaxy S5 owners and users, not some random group of people who just want to put Samsung down.

            And, as an Android enthusiast, I can admit that iOS is smoother when it comes to their user interface. Android has gotten a lot better since Jelly Bean, but it’s still not as stutter-free as iOS is. That’s not to say iOS is better, I like Android a lot better than iPhones/iPads, but don’t kid yourself when talking about lag. You can ignore all the facts you want and keep calling people who disagree with you “haters,” but you’re the one who looks like an idiot. Kinda like those global warming deniers or holocaust deniers; you just look like a desperate loser.

          • Pumpkin King

            Again….if you cannot comprehend such simple statements and would rather turn around in denial and throw accusations the what are you even doing here trying to engage in tech talk?

          • Vai

            You don’t know my experience with touchwiz? You don’t know the extent of the problems I’ve had with them… Every single touchwiz phone I have used has been the same.. Fine for the first couple months.. 7 months in and it’s unbearable. I’ll enlighten you with my experience..

            I got my self a galaxy s3… 3 months in I was very happy so I recommended it to all my family and friends. Of my family and friends I convinced 7 of them to go one!.. Months went buy and the device was getting worse and worse, it started to lag really bad.. Started to get unbearable so I decided to root it and put cm10 on it.. It was fantastic for another 6 months. As the rest of my family weren’t as tech savvy as me they didn’t root theirs and stayed with touchwiz.. What a horrible time they have had. After 12 months both my sisters galaxy s3’s got so horrible and laggy they had to buy out their contract so they could get a new phone.. My dad’s s3 lasted 8 months he ended up buying his contract out because his s3 was laggy too.. I’m talking 5 second delays between pressing something and the phone responding. 2 of my friends s3’s luckily lasted 18 months but needed a factory reset every 6 months to make it there. I had to buy my contract out early as I was fed up of my s3 being so slow.. ( I had to revert back to touchwiz as some apps I wanted were un-compatible with a rooted device) ended up buying a nexus 5. Of all of the s3’s i mentioned… None of the Sd card slots worked.. All of them lagged tremendously.. And almost all of them had to be retired for a new contract because the lag was that bad. My dad’s note 3 is laggy as I’ve already mentioned. My sisters brand new s5 is laggy too. You can say my experience with touchwiz is excessive to say the least.

            Touchwiz is awful. You need to check yourself mate and climb out of Samsungs arse.

          • Pumpkin King

            Yeah. Such stories of every phone model exist. Hoarder I have never personally or through the many friends with said or other devices run into such things.

            Lol. And that’s cute. Defending fact to a bunch of butthurt haters like you makes me the fanboy.
            So now I have to fully describe everything I love and feel in the whole tech world to explain myself to you and others just so I can state facts?
            So then should I assume since we are talking about Samsung only since that is the point and start of the convos that means the only thing you know in the tech world is jealous butthurt hate towards samsung? And nothing more?

          • Vai

            I can’t even make sense of what you are saying?

            You were saying touchwiz lags no less than any other phone os.

            I’m simply disagreeing because you couldn’t be more wrong as I have had no comparable lag and stutter from a nexus 5, Sony z2, lumia 1020 or ipad mini retina.

            Every single touchwiz enabled device I have come across has lagged more than these devices and caused endless problems.

            I don’t see what you’re blabbing on about?

          • Pumpkin King

            You can’t make sense of a few simple statements and direct comparisons yet would like to engage in them. Congratulations.
            I’ve seem them all lag. Just some be a little zippier that others. And touchwiz again runs just fine even on s3 and note 2 let alone S5 and note 3.

      • yankeesusa

        If touchwiz lagged on my note 2 then Samsung makes a great phone. I can only imagine a lag free note then. I really never noticed it enough on my note 2 and that has been my favorite phone by far.

      • Michael Suriel

        Note 3 with Eclipse and my phone still lags from time to time. Damn it Samsung!

    • koopadoop

      Oh come now Bryan Mills, don’t hide behind guest accounts.

      Turns out you don’t have to run Touchwiz, I know that might confuse those who are unable to install launchers and all…

      Also until you have the Touchwiz releasing with Note 4 (and the Note 4 to test it), the hate is hardly valid.

      • Bryan Mills

        I don’t hide behind guest accounts. No reason to do so.

        • Dave

          Right, but there is reason to make more than one account, God bless you!

          • Bryan Mills

            It’s one account. I wouldn’t expect a mentally incompetent person to understand. I’ll let you walk away.

          • The Narrator

            You have complete threaded conversations with yourself. On every Samsung article. You should really leave some time in between your posts so it’s not so obvious…

          • Bryan Mills

            It’s obvious that you’re an idiot.

          • T4rd

            What you did there.. I see it.

            I thought you said your Narrator account got banned?

      • mustbepbs

        Touchwiz =/= Launcher

        • koopadoop

          Lag comes from animations, not from running Touchwiz, can be fixed with a launcher (interestingly enough, the G3 suffers the same thing, but no one QQs here about it, they just adjust animations to get rid of the G3 lag).

          • KleenDroid

            I never understood why anyone would want animations anyway.

          • Maranello Santiago

            Because the iPhone has them.

          • Jason B

            I have animations on in my Moto X (at 0.5x) with the stock launcher, and there’s no lag. Sooo, animations don’t cause lag. Poor software does, though.

          • Big EZ

            No, the lag comes from bloat, and the skin. You don’t get rid of touchwiz (or any skin) by just installing a skin.

          • Pumpkin King

            Then explain the lag in lumias, ios, and every other Android all not running touchwiz

          • Eric R.

            Can’t you just go into Dev Options and turn off animations?

          • Rod

            So, for your “top” device run decently, you’ll have to abide from the eye candy features that the developers have put countless work hours on?

            Nice.

          • Grayson

            When I refer to lag, I’m usually referring to frame dropping / stuttering that occurs while scrolling within apps, and also during animations. While one can replace a poorly performing launcher and disable animations (which, by the way, sucks for people who like animations), one usually can’t improve scrolling within applications so easily. If Android is so bogged down with extra features, bloat, and unoptimized software that the phone constantly drops frames while scrolling within apps, all you can really do is admit that the stock software sucks. You can sacrifice stability and countless hours of your life on xda and run a custom ROM, but not everyone wants to do that just to get a phone that performs well.

          • schoat333

            Nope, The TW framework is built in, and is always there no matter what launcher you are running. The only way to remove the lag from TW is to custom ROM the phone. I’m betting that will be difficult with the Exynos, since Samsung is notorious for not releasing anything to open source for it.

          • malcmilli

            it does, but i hear reviewers say that its even worse on touchwhiz. That’s why it gets it’s rep.

          • CoreRooted

            Lag comes from animations? No. Lag comes whenever the CPU/GPU get overloaded to the point that the UI thread stops responding (or responds slowly). Lag also comes in the form of the network interfaces getting overloaded due to packet floods (from poorly written software and/or piss poor driver stacks), network saturation, or, again, poorly written software. Lag also comes from Dalvik and from Android itself. For instance, you can make ANY device lag by simultaneously launching a lot applications in rapid succession.

            “Launcher” replacements do not fix lag because of animations. They reduce lag because they are “usually” coded more efficiently and don’t tax the CPU/GPU as much as the previous launcher. Turning off animations also “fixes” lag because you are not taxing the CPU/GPU as much. However, neither of these fix the root cause of what really causes lag on any type of device.

            Touchwiz IS LAGGY. Why? Because it is not just a launcher. Touchwiz is a software platform that still has code in it that was written back in the Cupcake/Froyo days (admitted by multiple Samsung software engineers). It lags because much of the code that makes up the TW modules haven’t been optimized in over 4 years.

      • Big EZ

        The only way not to run touchwiz would be to run an AOSP rom. Touchwiz isn’t just a launcher.

      • Rod

        TouchWiz is more than a launcher, pal

    • Guest

      HAHAHAHA, somebody made such a funny joke about touchwiz! 85 likes and counting. The commentors on this site get more stupidly biased every day.

      • Dave

        I know for a fact that the administration of this site won’t do much about these so call trolls, as they point out saying the same things over and over in every post /articles that is put out there! It’s very sad to see how much bias this site has now and I thought PA was worse but hey DL your number one now and that’s not a good thing just so you know. Since its OK to let some of these “DL readers” to comment on multiple names (which DL won’t even give them a warning to stop it) I will start bashing and saying the hell I want and as far as others opinion I will also start spamming the shi@@ out this site until something is done or at least bane those 5 accounts linked to one person. It’s your call !

        • Iamjackspost

          Sounds like a great way to get yourself banned, genius.

          • HaHa

            Getting banned from here is no big deal. Super easy to change tour phone’s IP and start posting again!

        • Bryan Mills

          Who’s using mulitple names? Usually the ones complaining are the ones behind it.

      • cizzlen

        Almost 300 now. More dumb asses to come.

    • New_Guy

      Hiiiiiiiiiii…..larious :D

    • Dave

      I know for a fact that the administration of this site won’t do much about these so call trolls, as they point out saying the same things over and over in every post /articles that is put out there! It’s very sad to see how much bias this site has now and I thought PA was worse but hey DL your number one now and that’s not a good thing just so you know. Since its OK to let some of these “DL readers” to comment on multiple names (which DL won’t even give them a warning to stop it) I will start bashing and saying the hell I want and as far as others opinion I will also start spamming the shi@@ out this site until something is done or at least bane those 5 accounts linked to one person. It’s your call !

      • Bryan Mills

        Start spamming and you’ll be banned. Good luck.

    • Jangebo@

      Let me guess!? Haters ter gonna hate and it is what it is.

      Well, too bad Samsung is a the number one Android seller. I mean the s5 will outsell any cheaper ass company in the use. Like it or hate it haters! Keep hating be sure Samsung isn’t going anywhere. If you think a couple of hundred people is gonna hurt their sales.. Hahaha… Keep trying because whatever company you like will sell less! Haters hater hater hater hater…. Keep it coming baby. Haters makes one popular…

      • WarGasm

        So you’re saying no one should criticize a company just because they’re doing well?

        Look closely people, this is the cancer of the tech world

    • bogy25

      …or Crysis?

    • court

      That’s hilarious