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Possible Moto X+1 Device Shows Up in Benchmark With 2.5GHz Snapdragon 801

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A device that could be either the Moto X+1 or a new DROID variant showed up at Geekbench within the last couple of days, outing a couple of specs along the way.

Remember the Verizon device in the mystery box from earlier in the week that sported a model number of XT1096? The device that stopped through Geekbench showed up with a model number of XT1097. We could be looking at a different carrier variant, or again, it could be another DROID family member. Either way, the phones are more than likely related with model numbers so close. 

The benchmark gives us the processor, which is looking like a Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 clocked at 2.5GHz. The processor is showing as the MSM8974, which could be the Snapdragon 800, though the 800 typically tops out at 2.3GHz, whereas the 801 tends to run at 2.5GHz. Previous leaks suggested an 800. We can also see that the device has 2GB RAM.

Take what you will from the scores displayed, but this Motorola device would top Geekbench’s charts. The Galaxy S5 currently sits atop the list with single-core and multi-core scores of 933 and 2820, respectively.

Things are starting to shape up nicely. Now, if we could get some sort of timeframe for launch.

moto x1 benchmark

Via:  Geekbench
Cheers Ryan and Justin!
  • Jason B

    Food for thought: The S805 doesn’t have an integrated modem, so I doubt Moto wants to use it for a phone. Makes more sense for a tablet or even a larger phone/phablet with a bigger battery.

  • scottholstein

    Funny how some people are critical of devices like the G3 or S5 but then get all excited over a moto device that has the same processor or even less ram. I have owned several moto devices and have liked them. I just find it funny that some people will slam certain companies for “only” using an 801 or “only” having 2gig of ram. But let moto use those specs and oh yeah…can’t wait for that device…irony.

  • http://turbofool.com Jarrett Lennon Kaufman

    If the Moto Maxx trademarking ends up pointing to a Maxx version of this, it’ll pretty much cement it as my next phone.

  • Fabricio Tomasini

    They should put a radio fm app.

  • droidrazredge

    My hands and wrist are ready!!!!!!!

  • shortbus25

    Spoke to a guy with Verizon and there is going to be a refresh around Dec time frame a G3 with the 805! I’m just saying thats what I heard from a Vzw rep!

  • Am79

    Wouldn’t it be AWESOME if someone leaked a new pic we haven’t seen of the Moto X+1 right before the weekend started *HINT HINT anyone! Lol

  • yummy

    /s/s

  • RoadsterHD1

    Will the new Moto devise have the X8 computing system? Or maybe it will be the X10 computing system, either way I want the system because of the 4 core GPU, two single core contextual and Natural language processing. Of course the dual core CPU but if they make it a 4 core CPU and the rest of the system, this will make this phone heads and tails above the rest.

  • John

    How pissed would u guys be if this thing came out before the 360?

    • Higher_Ground

      -1000 because I’ve been anticipating this a lot longer. My current watch will probably hold up indefinitely; the phone not so much.

  • Higher_Ground

    ahh, a fresh hit of some moto X+1 rumors just sent a rush of endorphins through my brain :)

  • http://www.nsa.gov/ National Security Agency

    LMAO, your fanboy is showing! LG sucks for using the 801 (Samsung to a lesser extent), but Moto is awesome for using it. I know the argument stems from the QHD screen and the mystery lag that everyone on the internet experiences to extremes, but people in real life can’t find. I just find the overall hypocrisy hilarious. Keep in mind that I’m also talking about the bashing and praising pre-release for all these devices. Without any personal experience from anyone the G3 was condemned by many for their spec choices, but at the same time Moto is praised. Personally, I have no company loyalty at all. I want Moto to do amazing things just as much as everyone else does. I thought the Moto X was an incredible device and I expect the Moto X+1 (horrible horrible name) to be just as impressive, but the device bashing for one company while praising the other is just ridiculous. LG made a really impressive phone with the G3. The screen is great, the form factor is amazing (not iPhone amazing, just regular amazing) and the camera is incredible (no, not HTC). Is is perfect? No, I’ve never seen a perfect phone. The way I see comments on here though Moto could release an LG G3 clone with less ram and an inferior camera and it would still be praised while LG would still be bashed. The whole thing just seems silly to me.

    • Justtyn Hutcheson

      I don’t see anyone really “praising” Motorola here. The simple fact is, nobody knows what is going on here. Motorola threw out such a curve ball with the Moto X last year, finding its performance to fairly well defy its spec sheet, I think most are eager to see what they can do with yet more power. LG, on the other hand, was the first to push the 800 last year, so many in the community were hoping it would continue that trend and push the 805, rather than the over-clocked-800 that is the 801, merely matching their competitors in that area rather than leapfrogging them. Also, the 805, at least on paper, looks like a better match for its QHD display than the 801.

      As for the “mystery lag” I think that what we see is a very broad definition of “lag”. What one person considers a laggy mess, others will see as okay or normal, especially coming from what were laggy previous devices. I tend to look more towards reviewers when it comes to those issues, as they have experience using a wide range of devices, and most have commented on less-than-perfect performance at times. You could say that’s the same with every mobile device, but it was obviously significant enough for them to write about.

      As for the end, Motorola is such an odd duck in the mobile market at the moment that it is impossible to judge their device on what is on the paper. Even with the stipulations you noted, it may absolutely be worth praising, because it is simply a nicer and more compelling device to use for reasons that have nothing to do with specs. I agree though, that judgements should not be made before announcements are made and devices are in-hand.

      • guesswhat

        excellently written comment ..you have great analytic skills :)

    • chris_johns

      must suck to be wrong most the time

  • GJV

    C’mon Moto – take my money already!!!!!

  • Me

    This phone is going to be a beast. If they do bundle it w/ the 360, it’s going to be at least $650

    • Mech_Engr_09

      *$850

      • Justtyn Hutcheson

        I could see it coming in ~$700, with MSRP on the phone and watch at $450 and $350 respectively. I doubt they’ll push out another $500+ flagship, and I don’t see the 360 being more than $350. That’s already a 50% price hike over the existing Wear devices, and would be very much pushing into the extreme-luxury end of the spectrum, no matter how “awesome” it is.

        • calculatorwatch

          That would be nice. I can’t tell if Moto is making a bigger phone with specs that look better on paper so that they can price it the same as the other guys this time, or if they have really learned that you can sell a lot more phones off-contract by making them cheaper.

    • guesswhat

      I think moto x+1 will drop by off contract at $400 ..im not sure what moto 360 will be priced at though ~$300 I think so 700$ ..moto might give a bundle discount for $650 on motomaker :)

  • Godzilla

    Word on the street is that there might be a “moto bundle” which would include the X+1 phone and a Moto 360 in one box for an off contract cost of $550. That would be awesome! It certainly sounds like something moto would do.

    • Godzilla

      Now that i think about it that price seems pretty low……..hmm

      • MichaelFranz

        $600 wouldnt be bad, even if it is $250 for watch and $350 for phone. even if it is lower end for both as far as features go. Like only 16gb phone as opposed to 32 or 64gb and the moto 360 is a rubber strap as opposed to leather ot metal which you can package. That would be a crazy bang up job. I would probably use moto finance for this and sell my S5 for it and then pay for it with the cash from sale.

      • Higher_Ground

        I wouldn’t be surprised for something like that to come up around the holidays, but it does seem like wishful thinking at this point. OTOH $300 for a current moto X and $250 for the watch is about right, if not an odd pair of last year’s hardware with the new.

    • Orion

      That would be insane. In fact, that would be a complete steal.

    • hkklife

      Any concrete info on what kind of screen size and storage the X+1 is packing? Last I heard we were at 5.2″ 1080P screen, Snapdragon 801, 32GB internal storage standard, no microSD slot. And what about the mythical Moto Maxx? Is that a non-Verizon beefy battery version of the X+1?

    • Greyhame

      Not a chance. Wasn’t it you who should have learned his lesson about claiming bogus low prices?

  • Godzilla

    X phone

    • Doug

      Bionic! What does Sarge have to say on this one?

      • Mech_Engr_09

        That Godzilla loves butthole.
        – Per Sarge (TM)

      • calculatorwatch

        Sarge did predict a larger, more powerful X Phone would come out.

        He just predicted it a year too early.

        • hkklife

          Sarge stated a Moto X successor eith a 5.2″ 1080P screen, Snapdragon 800 and a beefy battery was coming way back in Dec or so of 2013. Only problem was that it was reportedly coming in Q1 or early Q2.

      • La2da

        Droid Life should make “Per Sarge” t-shirts with Andy in camouflage. Do it up, Kellex!!!

  • jbdan

    Will this be the one that pulls me from my N5….nothing has come close so far. I have high hopes for this phone!

  • Maxim∑

    801 is fine, but why not go for 805..?

    • SeanPlunk

      There really isn’t a need. The main advantage of the S805 is the extra GPU power of the Adreno 420, but on a 1080p screen that’s unnecessary. The CPU performance of the 801 is very similar to the 805, so from a cost/performance standpoint I think the 801 is the right choice.

    • Justtyn Hutcheson

      Expense, lack of real-world advantage, most likely. The 805 really seems more like it was pushed to support QHD screens while they finish the 810/815 64-bit chips.

      • Godzilla

        well said

      • Justin Kos

        Its like having gigabit internet to check your facebook and gmail lol, does anything really take advantage of that power?

      • Maxim∑

        The GPU power efficiency on 805 is slightly better, but I think Android uses CPU rendering 2D stuff unlike iOS. Moto could have also added display RAM like the G2/G3 and Oneplus. idk

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          They might have added VRAM, but that would only mean a better reason to go with the 800/801 over the 805, as the GPU would have an even smaller load, and the bump in CPU speed could be regained via software optimization, making the extra expense unnecessary except as a bulletpoint on paper.
          I had thought that 2D rendering was completely offloaded to the GPU with Project Butter in Jelly Bean 4.1, but I could certainly be wrong.

    • HarvesterX

      Qualcomm is offering discounts only to Samsung last I heard which is why we have the Note 4 slated to launch with the 805. Price is DEFINATELY the issue and could possibly cause some other OEMs to switch to other CPUs though I really hope not. I like Qualcomm as they release their source.

      • Maxim∑

        They probably get discounts because Samsung is a much bigger customer. But yeah I hope everyone stays with Qualcomm

  • FortitudineVincimus

    2gb RAM? 3 is now needed.

    • Mike

      Not when you have a clean UI like Motorola is doing. On my Maxx I barely touch 1.25 GB of RAM usage while running multiple apps.

      • John Friend

        With my 32gb unlocked consumer edition, all apps greenified, I run around 1gb to 800mb free.

        I think 2gbs is more than enough to make the device snappy. But a year or two from now would it stay that way? If they gave it 3gbs it wouldn’t cost too much more and would ensure livelihood.

        Motorola please offer 3gbs as an option at least. Please keep active notifications, quick capture, etc. I’ve grown to love these features.

    • Godzilla

      almost fully stock android, simply no need

    • Grayson

      Not if your phone has well written software. Samsung and LG might need it, but there is a ton of free RAM on my Nexus 5 and HTC One M8.

    • Scott Tucker

      Lol, no.

  • droidify

    I hate the name. X+1…seriously.
    I think it should be the Moto Y as in Y you have the 801 and not 805? or….Y you’re camera still subpar?
    I kidd :)

    • Justtyn Hutcheson

      Oh God, the “Y U NO” memes would be ridiculous.

      Now, I kinda want this to happen.

      • droidify

        Genius!

  • dannyWHITE

    Where’s everyone that trashed the G3 for having the 801 now???

    • chris125

      This won’t have QHD screen though. Not to mention moto made their name going “mid range” in specs for last years moto x

      • Big EZ

        They didn’t go mid range. They just put more focus on optimization than numbers.

        • chris125

          Clearly you missed the ” “. Many naysayers said they went mid range because it was only dual core

    • Justin Kos

      The higher res screen

    • Justtyn Hutcheson

      Perhaps because LG has made their name as the “beast specs” company, and Motorola has more or less officially dropped out of that race?

      For me, it was more that the 805 would have been much better suited to pushing the QHD screen.

      • dannyWHITE

        Because the G3 performance is very poorly based on screen issues right. I have a G3 and don’t run into any lags.

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          I’m glad you’re happy with it, thanks for the feedback.

        • Grayson

          I’m t-t-typing this on-n-n-n a G-G-G3!

          • Paul Hansen

            This… I switched back to my n5 because the input lag was unbearable for me.

      • Big EZ

        I love the G3, but if it had a 805 I’d probably keep this thing for 2 years or so. Chances are I’ll get a G4 or possibly next year’s Moto X.

      • Greyhame

        You, sir, are far too logical and even keeled to be on this internet chat forum. It’s……refreshing.

    • Orion

      G3 has QHD….moto doesn’t.

      • Justin Kos

        If i was in the market to replace my phone, I’d skip the G3 at this point.. the hardware is great no matter what.. all I do is email text and play clash of clans …lol I just want crazy good battery life.

        • Big EZ

          The battery life is as good or better than other phones. If you use your phone a lot it’s about the same as others. If you only email, text, and play a game a little bit then you’ll probably get better battery life with the G3. This thing gets amazing stand by battery life. Unfortunately I use it to much to notice most of the time.

          • Justin Kos

            Haha im in the same boat, I have my N5 tweaked to get 8-9 hours stand by on 10% battery (on WiFi) and 5-6 hours on 10% on LTE depending on signal strength

            But im always messing around with it when im bored n such

    • MJ

      You got thrashed dannyWHITE LOL There are dumb questions…

    • OF

      Right here. Unless the Moto X+1 has a QHD screen the 801 will be perfect for a 1080p screen.

    • cns2007

      Interesting timing for your comment. AndroidCentral is doing a “2 Months On” update for the G3. They love the screen, but most seem to think perhaps it does impact on performance.

      http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-g3-two-months

  • Shane Redman

    If it doesn’t run Android L preview out the box, it’s dead to me… :)

    • mcdonsco

      You want a preview build on a retail phone?

      That’s just, dumb.

      • Shane Redman

        I guess you’re all new to sarcasm.

        • Nikuliai

          didn’t you get the memo? you have to put /s at the end of the sentence otherwise your comment is 100% serious

          • Shane Redman

            I thought I did. Must have gotten lost a midst the TPS reports. :-P

            But really, I leave it off to see how many people really get into their feelings. Gives me a few good chuckles on a slow work day.

          • Nikuliai

            I tried to think on an emotional response that weren’t too offensive but I guess I can’t.

            But yeah, lots of people lose their nerves on the internet, it’s a happy place to troll :)

    • http://www.twitter.com/cltnwd Colton

      FIFY
      If it runs Android L Preview out of the box, it’s dead to me… :)

      (what mcdonsco said)

    • Orion

      Ummm I guess you’re new to the tech game. Why would it come with a preview? Nexus is going to be first out the box with the finished product.

  • Ralph Bretz

    Can’t wait for the Moto X+1. Going to be tough to choose between that and the Nexus 6.

  • Justtyn Hutcheson

    Isn’t this similar to what happened last year? Conflicting reports of hardware that doesn’t match anything previously seen?

    For the Moto X, it was a dual-core S4 Pro and it supported 802.11ac, a feature only found previously on the 600. Nobody could have guessed at what we would end up with then, and I doubt it is any different now.

    • Big EZ

      It’s probably a beefed up 800. It’ll also probably run better than all these 801 devices.

    • kixofmyg0t

      You’re onto something…..

      • Justtyn Hutcheson

        Oh hai Kix, ltns ☺

  • http://www.droid-life.com/ Tim-o-tato

    801? DOA! /s

    • Robert Macri

      Why would anyone buy a mid tier phone! 2013 called and they want their phone back /s

      • Patrick Crumpler

        Probably because Motorola will do something wonderful with it again like the X

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          Going to assume you missed the /s, or don’t know that it means the comment was sarcastic.

          • Patrick Crumpler

            Made the change. Lol. Didn’t see

          • Franklin Ramsey

            There are so many people missing sarcasm today… You’d almost think this wasn’t the internet.

    • Justin Kos

      OMG the 801!? Im trying to mine bitcoins with my cell phone this phone sucks! /s

    • Bryan Mills

      To the whole community, yep.

      • hebrewHAMMER

        For the G3, yep.

    • OF

      The 801 is perfect for FHD screens. Not so much for QHD though! You mad bro??

      • Franklin Ramsey

        Did you miss his /s?

        • OF

          Nope. Try again.

    • Greyhame

      Hahaha. Comment of the thread.

    • calculatorwatch

      The original Moto X should have come out with the 801!

      Once again they are using last year’s technology!

      /s

    • IHATEHIPSTERSSS

      Out benchmarked by the 5s

  • shamatuu

    The Nexus 6 will probably have the 805 chip.

    • Justin Kos

      with that 6 inch screen

    • Maxim∑

      maybe even 810 if its late

      • shamatuu

        pretty sure the 810 isn’t going to be used this year based on Qualcomm press event

    • Bryan Mills

      Wouldn’t count on it. Too expensive to use it.

      • HarvesterX

        Qualcomm is only giving discounts to Samsung with the 805 last I heard… Could be problematic.

  • Steven02

    So, the photo last week was XT1096. This week we see a bench mark for XT1097. I am guessing that these are droid phones. But, the Moto X had similar specs to the droid phones.

    • John Kitchen

      The Moto X and Droid phoned had identical specs (except wireless charging). I have a feeling this is the X model number because the VZW Moto X is the 1060 but the ATT model is the 1058.

  • MotDetoyr

    still running 4.4.4??? that doesnt add up.

    • Nathan Borup

      why exactly?

      • MotDetoyr

        because Motorola gets early access to L because of google play Moto G.
        since L is now announced there is no point in keeping L for moto Devices secret.

        • JBartcaps

          WUT

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          Even if they have builds of L running, they can’t release a phone with L until Google releases the entire master L branch to the public. Thus, if they want to release the device before November-ish, they will need to be running 4.4.4 (latest public version) at launch.

        • Justin Kos

          Source?

        • Nathan Borup

          Just because they have a google play phone doesn’t mean they are planning on releasing an ALPHA to consumers… come on, think man

    • tyguy829

      What else could it be running? 4.4.4 is the absolute latest

    • brah

      ya bro, L hasn’t been released to manufacturers yet..only test images.

      • Nathan Borup

        not to mention it isn’t even considered beta… it’s still alpha

    • T4rd

      Your question doesn’t add up. This phone is going to be released before L is finished and ready for release.

  • Zander

    Ooh! This is so exciting. This may be my next phone! Do you guys think it’ll be worth the upgrade from a Nexus 5? Do you think it’ll be better than the Nexus 6?

    • Justin Kos

      The only reason I would upgrade would be if the battery life on the Nexus 5 isn’t cutting it for you.. IMO
      (I have a n5)

    • Balthazar_B

      In reply to your two questions, maybe (depending on price) and no.

    • MJ

      Seriously? WTF? How could any one be able to answer either of those questions when neither phone has been announced let alone released?

    • guesswhat

      Moto Devices are always better than nexus device anyday ..moto devices get faster updates pretty much like nexus,(slightly behind) have stock android. And great usefull features like assist, toucless controls, active display , trusted Bluetooth devices.which nexus devices will not have.

  • morteum

    I wonder if this one will be using the X8 computing system with this processor.

    • tyguy829

      My bet is they’ll do the same thing but call it the X10 (since the 801 is quad core, adding 2 more overall cores)

      • morteum

        Good call, I didn’t even consider the extra cores.

      • Justtyn Hutcheson

        Pretty much. If they account for the SD80x on-board sub-processors, you’re looking at X12 (additional Hexagon DSP and image processor)

        • tyguy829

          good call. although the Hexagon DSP included in the SD80x could cause them to not need their own language processing chip. Maybe X11? heh

          • HarvesterX

            Good call. All the Snapdragon 80x CPUs have this built in already

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            I honestly don’t think so. The sensor network and monitoring software they use to support TC, QC, Assist, etc. are part of a custom computing sub-system that runs in parallel with Android. One of the reasons they built their own system was because nothing like it was available, but it was built in such a way that any SoC could be integrated without any issue. With such care for interoperability taken, I doubt they would chain their system to any vendor’s on-die hardware. I wouldn’t be surprised to use it to offload the audio output processing, though, so they could use the audio tunneling features like in the Nexus 5 and O+O.

          • tyguy829

            also a good point. they have a lot of options

  • chris125

    Now use a better camera and you’ll be golden moto

    • Justtyn Hutcheson

      This. However, considering the huge strides in quality made from launch to 4.4.4 with the Moto X, and them hiring at least 4 -6 dedicated optics/camera firmware engineers in the past year, I have at least some hope it will be competitive, if not astounding. I’m certain Motorola knows that if their camera isn’t *at least* “Good” at launch, they are in for a bad ride; it’s only the #1 complaint against their previous device.

    • mcdonsco

      This!

      Its the only thing that kept me from going back to the Maxx.

      Not sure why moto keeps putting crappy cameras in their phones, but it needs to stop.

      • chris125

        Agree. Moto seems to have issues getting a good camera, hopefully this year is different

    • Spee

      And a current gen chip would be nice too.

    • Nish Junankar

      I won’t buy a phone that doesn’t have amazing camera/camera software. This basically limits you to two android phones (S5/G3). I don’t take many pictures but when I do I want them to come out correct, the S5 is amazing at focusing/flash, outdoors, and okay in low light. Companies need to realize that they have to offer the complete package and probably the biggest piece of that is the camera now, almost all the phones out have acceptable displays, ram, and processing power.

      • Josh

        my M8 takes better photos than my step dads S5 sometimes. There really isn’t much of a difference in quality with these high end phones man. Don’t let a camera be your end all be all decision on a phone especially if all your photos just go on social networks because they all look the same at that point.

    • Jason B

      The camera is actually pretty decent now. It just took a lot of tuning via software to get it right. I don’t think they’ll be trying the RGBC technology anytime soon (it’s actually no longer available from OV). OmniVision’s 12MP camera has OIS and is a typical RGB 16:9 sensor.

      The RGBC sensor lost a Green channel from the typical Bayer RGGB sensors, so I’m sure they had to compensate for green saturation to prevent that loss from being too noticable.

    • IHATEHIPSTERSSS

      Nope people want iphones