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Verizon Wants Month-to-Month Customers to Move to MORE Everything Starting April 17

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Friends with unlimited data on Verizon who are on month-to-month contracts, are you ready to give up your precious plan for the land of the tiers? Big Red, starting on April 17, is willing to let you into their new MORE Everything plans at exclusive pricing for a limited time. What’s that, did you stop reading? Can’t say I blame you, but here is the deal anyway. 

If you are on a month-to-month contract and want to “experience savings immediately,” Verizon will give you a discount on your smartphone monthly access charge depending on how much data you choose. Should you select a data package at 8GB or below, you’ll see a $10 savings on your smartphone line. If you choose a 10GB package and above, you’ll see a $25 savings on your line.

For example, if you choose 2GB for $50, your smartphone access line charge would be $30 per month instead of $40. Your monthly bill would then be $80 for 2GB of data, plus unlimited talk and text. If you chose 10GB of data, you would be looking at $100 for the 10GB of data, plus $15 for the smartphone line, bring you to a grand total of $115 per month. I’ll let you decide if that’s a deal or not.

Also, Verizon is opening up this prices to new customers who want to bring their own devices or sign-up for Verizon EDGE.

Via:  Verizon

  • morpheus282

    This would actually save me a little cash. After corporate discounts, the bill for 2x smartphones with unlimited data, 1400 shared minutes, and one line with 1000 text messages and tethering comes out to ~$200 after taxes and fees are applied. 10GB of data is usually way more than both of us use together so $130 + taxes isn’t too bad at all. The problem comes in when I have to tether for extended periods and I go well over 10GB by myself but I could probably find ways around that. I’m also under contract for another 18 months thanks to the September debacle so it’s all academic debates at this point. If – and this is a really big if – this deal is available September 2015 AND the two S4s we got last September aren’t serviceable AND if I can’t get a decent deal on a new phone from a 3rd party then I might go with this deal.

  • Michael Swanson

    I have 2 smartphone lines and 2 dumb phone lines on my account. The dumb phones are strictly for upgrading smartphones without losing unlimited data. With all of that, I have more than enough minutes and text on my line and I still pay less than a 2 smartphone and 8GB data plan. I average 230 minutes and 120 texts per month. Why should I upgrade?

    • Sigmonster

      Can you tell me how this works? Do you have to keep a feature phone on those lines? So you upgrade on the dumb phone lines to a smart phone and then transfer it to your unlimited data line and then cancel data on the dumb phone line?

      • Michael Swanson

        Exactly…when those lines come eligible for upgrade I simply upgrade to a new Android phone and then activate that phone on one of my smartphone lines. I end up paying $10/month for the ability to keep my unlimited data. I even went as far as told the Verizon employee why i was doing it when i added the 4th line and they said they understood and knew exactly how to handle it. I have upgraded 3 times since they got rid of unlimited data and still have unlimited on 2 lines.

        Still cheaper than going to the more everything. But for me voice and text are at the bottom of the “requirement” list. In the end i end up saving $20/month so if someone pays for more voice or data than I do may not see the same savings. It just works out for my account. I even called Verizon 611 the other day and asked them why i should change and “spend more money for less service” by upgrading to the “More Everything” and the lady laughed and said not to. Her suggestion was to keep doing what I’ve been doing and save the money.

    • Chris Lee

      Is it possible to have just one dumb line, and transfer upgrades to it every time you get one on another line? So I have an upgrade now, transfer it to the dumb line and upgrade. Then my wife gets an upgrade in May, transfer it to the dumb line and upgrade again. Will this work?

      • kali bred

        Yes that’ll work the benefit to having two dumb lines is that you also get the upgrades from those lines so you upgrade more often

      • Michael Swanson

        no, you can only upgrade the dumb line. If you transfer an upgrade it is the same as upgrading the original line. What you are essentially doing with my plan is transferring the dumb line upgrade to a smartphone line. So you will lose unlimited if you do ANYTHING with your upgrade on a smartphone line. You can keep only 1 dumb phone line if you are ok with only 1 new phone every 2 years alternated between the 2 of you.

        • Chris Lee

          So the dumb line can only have 1 upgrade transfered to it every two years? If I upgrade the dumb line, then try to activate the upgrade phone on the original smart line I lose unlimited?

          • Michael Swanson

            No, other way around. DO NOT touch any available upgrades on existing unlimited data lines EVER! ONLY ever touch the dumb line forever moving forward. Let your smartphone line stay on “Eligible for Upgrade”. If you transfer your smartphone upgrade or touch it in any other way you WILL LOSE your unlimited data.

          • Chris Lee

            Got it. Thanks for your patience and explanation. I thought you could transfer an upgrade and keep your unlimited, but now I see how it works. Thanks again.

          • Chris Lee

            Just an fyi, I spoke with a Verizon rep just now and he said that I could transfer the upgrade to a dumb line and keep unlimited data on the smart line, and then do it again for my wife a month from now and get another phone for her line. I don’t know if he was just saying that to get me on the hook, though.

  • CaptM

    Guess it’s time to see just how much I can download in 3 days.
    Should I shoot for 100GB or 200GB?
    :-)

  • tomn1ce

    My bill always comes in at $85-$87 with unlimited data, 450 minutes and 250 text…why downgrade my plan and pay more….Vzw you should try harder to get people to switch to those BS share everything plans….

  • devman

    There is an interesting tid-bit in Verizon’s post. Emphasis mine: “…either on Edge, moved from month-to-month contracts, or brought to the Verizon Wireless network…“.

    As far as I know, and I could be mistaken, there are no devices that work on VZW network that are not originally approved by VZW. Could this be a precursor to Google I/O and a Nexus that works on all 4 major US carriers?

    • M3D1T8R

      It may be that, for such possible future cases. But I kind of doubt it. More likely it’s just another way of saying Verizon devices not bought directly from Verizon. Like full retail elsewhere, or used, etc., like some Unlimited users do if we want a new phone.

  • THELukeAngus

    I pay $80/mo for unlimited data and one line with my corporate discount, so no savings for me. No thanks.

  • addicuss

    Thats all you got big v? GTFO

  • Ken Bosse

    my 72 dollar a month unlimited data and text plan are doing me just fine. Thanks anyway verizon.

  • Prime7

    You cannot have more than infinity, by definition. I’ll see you guys on T-Mobile when Verizon finally just takes away unlimited.

  • http://www.twitter.com/SexciiP JaQuez Avondre

    Verizon can kiss my a$$. I’m not giving up unlimited data!

  • MarkAHill

    All they have to do is notify you of the change, and if you are still under contract, they must give you the option of continuing the contract under the new terms (tiered data), or let you out of the contract without paying ETF. But they can do whatever they want, whenever they want. Contracts are written in such a way to allow carriers to do as they please. http://qr.net/uqAg

    • flosserelli

      Thanks for copy/pasting my comment, Sir Spamalot.

  • http://thatgeekdad.blogspot.com/ Rob Delaney

    Unlimited until they pull it. Then it’s off to AT&T. Would rather pick T-Mobile but AT&T has one place advantage in 99% of the places I visit, work, vacation, and drive…home. AT&T and T-Mobile have 4g everywhere else together except home. T-Mobile has 2 bars 2g and AT&T have 3 bars LTE.

  • Bigwavedave25

    Hahaha… not a chance I’d do this unless there was NO OTHER OPTION.

    • Robert Macri

      There is always another option.

  • SomeDooD

    NO THANKS!

  • Rich Steele

    I’m paying $80 for unlimited data plus unlimited messaging and 450 minutes. I will never switch.

  • Aj Bastedo

    Does anyone know under what circumstances unlimited customers who are month to month could be forced to give up unlimited data?…or when that could be?….(volte roll out?)

    • middlehead

      Them deciding to; you’re not under contract to them, they’re not under contract to you. They can’t force you into another plan, but they can dump you whenever they feel like it.

    • flosserelli

      Verizon could force everyone onto tiered plans at any time. All they have to do is notify you of the change, and if you are still under contract, they must give you the option of continuing the contract under the new terms (tiered data), or let you out of the contract without paying ETF. But they can do whatever they want, whenever they want. Contracts are written in such a way to allow carriers to do as they please.

      • Aj Bastedo

        Then why don’t they just do it and stop unlimited data?….fearing people will leave?

        • flosserelli

          They will, eventually. And there will be a lot of angry customers that will move to other carriers. But Verizon is such a behemoth that the number of people leaving because of this will be a drop in the bucket and won’t make any difference. Verizon is still rolling in new customers left & right.

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          They are likely waiting until the last of their mass unlimited contracts are done, which is June 28th 2014. Until then, they would technically have to count the ETF of any contract line as a loss on their books. After that, when people are month-to-month, they simply have one bad quarter where their net subs take a hit, but that is understandable (and will be seen as a necessity to end unlimited high-speed data users), so their investors won’t balk at it.

      • devman

        Since Edge contracts are device contracts instead of service contracts Big red could change the terms and leave with a choice of 1) Leave and pay off device balance. Alternatively they could also add something like an “Unlimited Data Maintenance Fee” under their fees and surcharges section of the bill and just keep jacking that up slowly every month till no unlimited accounts are left. That way they don’t have to “take” anything.

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          To add to that, even those in a contract can have their service changed subject to prior notification, and you must explicitly object for the change to not go into effect. You have 60 days to terminate without and ETF if and only if you can prove that the change materially affects you; for example, they could retain “unlimited” data but throttle you after 5GB, and so long as your usage over the course of your contract has shown that you don’t use more than 5GB per month, you are not materially affected and have no legitimate recourse to avoid the ETF.

  • Natty Bee

    I’m sorry, this deal sucks. I MIGHT be persuaded to take a tiered plan…if VZW was offering the double data option like they did when I got my wife’s phone…but as of now, I plan to keep my unlimited line as long as humanly possible

  • jaymonster

    I just don’t get VZW at all. They “claim” that 95% of users don’t use more than 2GB anyway… so why try and rape people so hard that you make it easy to not switch over? Why not offer something that is even remotely reasonable? Even my daughter’s phone which was in between unlimited (don’t get me started on that one), and “Share everything” has 4GB for $30.

    On my “work” line, I was switched over. But as a business account they gave me 6GB for the same $30 I was paying for the unlimited. And since we very rarely reached or came close to 5GB, the 6GB tier at a reasonable price was worth making the switch. I guess that special offer has now ended.

    I just can’t even figure out how they spin this into “immediate savings.” Who are they fooling at this point? Maybe one or two old folks that still have the old plan only because they have the same phone for the past 10 years? They are sure as heck not convincing anyone that has the ability for rational thought and the ability to do math. PItiful.

  • http://blog.celebrityhowtoinformationproductplacewebsitesports.ws/ Chris Brown

    That is interesting.

  • cg

    Like Nancy Reagan used to say…”Just Say No, Kids….”

  • Sean Spediacci

    Considering how much data I use, I’ll stay with VZW until they kick me off Unlimited Data. After that, I will, begrudgingly, head over to T-Mobile for their plans. I’m hoping T-Mobile will have improved itself by the time that ever happens. Hope is free and overage fees from Verizon are not.

    • Victor Who

      I’m withya brotha!

    • Aaron C

      I believe I heard Legere say that he believes T-Mobile could be the #1 carrier, and I believe him. They are gaining subscribers faster than the other networks, they have been extremely aggressive in pushing the company forward, and they just bought all that 700Mhz spectrum from Verizon. I would not be a bit surprised if most of the rural coverage issues are taken care of within 12-18 months. They know it’s the single issue that’s keeping the rest of you from jumping over. In the areas where LTE has launched around me, speeds are still phenomenal, even with more and more users coming on-board. It’s not like Verizon LTE where the network got saturated almost immediately. I had my Thunderbolt, and got blazing speeds. Within six months, my speed was about 20% what it has been.

  • Smellynachos

    I’ll stick with my faster and unlimited data from t-mobile

    • Victor Who

      Your unlimited data is only faster because hardly anyone is on it.

      • Smellynachos

        And? Point is it is faster lol. And even if they get more people on their network means more money for more investment in even faster and reliable service.

      • Aaron C

        Dunno. More and more people every month, and still data speeds are blazing. Not like Verizon LTE.

  • mcdonsco

    They need to do better than that to get me to ditch it.

    I’ve had a slow month and I’m at 20gb right now (resets tomorrow though). With the usage I’m currently seeing I will easily be at or over 30gb/month by mid summer.

    And thats JUST true mobile usage with a tiny bit of hot spot tossed in; not using it as my primary internet, no excessive hotspot use or downloading…just email and web.

  • flosserelli

    Verizon unlimited customers, this the “lube” for what is next. You can take this incentive now and give up unlimited data, or be forced onto a tiered plan (at regular cost) later this summer. Your choice.

    • cg

      I call BS on that statement…opinions/speculations are like a’holes…everyone has one. Facts are a different matter…

      The only thing keeping me on VZW is the unlimited data. Once that goes, I go to T-Mobile…(out of principle.)

      • flosserelli

        We will see, won’t we.

        • cg

          Perhaps I will see, but not today. Not tomorrow, not next week, and not next month. Actually, I’ll even go on to say not next year. Yes, that is also speculation on my part, and I could very well be wrong. Well, if I am, then I go to T-Mobile.

          I got my Jetpack, my girl’s S3 and my Note 3. I have two basic phones that are used for alternate upgrade purposes….I’m good. I even paid $250 for a ebay Unlimted line that I bought over a year ago…that cost has been absorbed a long time ago…and now the line is really mine. :) Unlimited Data with a jetpack at $30 a month…..suuuuuuwwwwweeeeeet.

        • TylerCameron

          I wasted my Verizon lines because I wanted to keep my old number.

          • flosserelli

            I ported my number to T-Mobile but requested a new phone number from Verizon during the transfer. So I still have the VZW unlimited line, but it has a new number and no device on it.

  • Daniel Walker

    Just bought a note 3 with the device installment plan. Big red is going to have to force me off in unlimited and which point I will go to t mobile.

  • akellar

    I can’t wait for Verizon to force people off their unlimited plans. The fallout will be epic.

    • cg

      Keep waiting, wee-yotch…

      • Justtyn Hutcheson

        By the end of the year, it will probably happen. Most of those still clinging to unlimited now are very close to month-to-month, their contracts expiring in May (recall the GS3 was the last phone that was widely available for an upgrade and keeping unlimited data). Once you go month-to-month, they are under no obligation to keep unlimited data for you beyond the current billing period. 60-day notice is all they need to give. By paying for the new services after that period, you are implicitly accepting the changes to your service. They could also follow the T-Mobile “unlimited”, where you are kicked off the LTE network after a certain amount of usage, automatically throttling you to CDMA speeds.

        • Cael

          They had a glitch last year (or was it early this year?) that let people keep their unlimited data on new 2 year contracts so yeah

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            The number that took advantage of that is laughably low compared to the number of total lines they service. Last I heard they had 100 million+ subscribers, 70% of which have a cellphone. Even if 100,000 were able to upgrade during the glitch (an unlikely high number, but just for arguments’ sake), after 8 months (assuming they announce cutoff in the next week), that would be a net loss of $27M, or 0.1% of their monthly revenue, and, assuming that each of those lines is deactivated, a hefty (but not impossible to make up) drop in yearly net adds of 2.5%.

            And that’s really a worst-case scenario for them. The reality is likely far, far nicer for their bottom line.

          • Cael

            Regardless in January, Verizon said during their earnings call that 46% of their accounts are now on Share Everything plans. So yeah.

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            They stopped offering Unlimited Data plans as a new or upgrade option in July 2011. They didn’t add their Share Everything plans until June 28th, 2012 (which corresponded to the end of Unlimited upgrades, apologies for the mix-up in my earlier statement). Any new customers added or upgraded between July 2011 and June 28 2012 are on the “old” tiered data plans. Also, even if you did choose to upgrade your unlimited line after that time, you were not pushed onto a Share Everything plan, but onto one of their “old” tiered data plans instead. You have to explicitly and intentionally switch to a Share Everything plan, as it affects the entire account at once, rather than changing a single line.

            So, that they have 46% of their subscriber accounts on Share Everything is pretty much meaningless for the discussion at hand.

          • Cael

            “They stopped offering Unlimited Data plans as a new or upgrade option in July 2011….Also, even if you did choose to upgrade your unlimited line after that time, you were not pushed onto a Share Everything plan, but onto one of their “old” tiered data plans instead”

            That’s funny because I upgraded to a Rezound in May 2012 and they let me keep my unlimited data. I didn’t pay full price, I didn’t get put on an old tiered data plan, I just signed a new two year contract.

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            My apologies, I used the term “upgraded” in two distinctly different manners, hence the confusion. When I stated “Any new customers added or upgraded between July 2011 and June 28 2012 are on the “old” tiered data plans.”, I meant those moving from a “traditional” phone to a smartphone (thus requiring a data plan) did not have “unlimited” as an option; at that point, tiered data was the only option.

            Prior to June 28th 2012, you could sign a new 2-year contract to obtain a new device at the subsidized cost and still retain your unlimited data option (as you did with your Rezound in May 2012).

            After June 28th 2012, there are isolated cases of people being able to retain their unlimited data while getting a new contract and device (most notably the computer glitch last November), but the vast majority that signed a new contract to get a reduced-cost device had to choose one of the tiered data offerings at the same time.

            I hope that clears up the confusion.

        • cg

          Well, once that happens I go to T Mobile and from what I understand, T – Mobile doesn’t throttle for their truly unlimited plans. Don’t kid yourself, Verizon will lose a good number of customers who were grandfathered.

          Until that day happens…I will enjoy my unlimted. In fact I think I will use 40GB tonight….Just because I can. Plus watch a long movie on Netflix while I sleep…again, because I can.

    • M3D1T8R

      Booooooooo

    • Mr E

      and on that day, T-Mobile stores will be awfully busy all of a sudden.

      • Denvertoad

        T-Mobile may be busy for a day or so but not enough to hurt Verizon in the least. There’s approx 115 million Verizon wireless customers. How many have UL data? And of that number how many are forced to use Verizon based on coverage issues. The number of users with UL is but a drop in the ocean of Verizon customers.

        • Aaron C

          Yeah, the only people still left on unlimited are those who will NEVER give it up, and who mistrust Verizon with every beat of their heart. How much sweeter can Verizon make the offers? I’d really like to know exactly HOW MANY folks are still on Verizon unlimited. To that small section of customers, there can never be an offer sweeter than UNLIMITED. For me, it wasn’t worth the fuss. If Verizon didn’t really want me as a customer, I was happy to bring my money to a carrier than wanted to save me $100 a month on a family plan. :)

          • PoisonApple31

            Not true. There are many people on Verizon with unlimited data that just haven’t upgraded since they signed up. Many are not even aware that shared data plans exist yet. If you tell these people they can save some money per month by doing a promo, they will do it.

  • Quint

    There is no need for me to switch to a plan that costs me more money. I average 6GB per month and switching to the More Everything equivalent is a waste of money. They will have to reduce the prices further (not likely) or force me off my unlimited data plan.

  • Tres Waters

    DAMN IT! We just switched Friday! We’re paying over 160 a month for 6gb and 2 devices… When apparently we could be paying 130 for 10gb!!!!

    • M3D1T8R

      Maybe someone else who’s more familiar with these ripoff policies can comment on whether there’s a grace period where you can undo the change (and switch to this one if that’s what you want).

    • Kyle

      I’d walk into a Verizon store and fight for it. May have to wait until the 17th when it’s supposed to be active.

      • Tres Waters

        That’s the plan. There’s a 14 day return policy. I’m not sure if that covers the contract as well. If it does, and they won’t let me upgrade to 10gb for the cheaper price, I’ll return the devices and start from scratch. I don’t care if I have to get a new number.

  • SewWhat

    NOPE….. Waiting till my contract “sentence” is up in July and jumping ship to Republic. GF has it and it works great.

  • NyReynolds

    WTF, they’re charging $40 for 2GB of data? No thanks. I’ll keep my unlimited for $30.

    • PoisonApple31

      Yes, unlimited is the better value and cheaper no matter what, but your comparison is apples to oranges. Plans are structured differently now.

  • sr_erick

    I already pay $88 a month for unlimited data, and 450 minutes I use 5% of, and a handful of text messages. How is this in any way a deal?

  • David Tyler

    Too late Verizon, I switched from you in February to att and there is not turning back.

  • Chris

    Oh Verizon…

  • M3D1T8R

    Let’s see, I currently have comfortably more minutes and texts than I need, and unlimited data, of which I use around 100GB a month, give or take 50GB or so, all for which I pay $75. And now they’re offering me essentially the opposite: Unlimited talk and text that I do not need, along with 2GB of data, or not even 2% of what I need, for $80, five bucks more than I pay now. Yeah, I think I’m good.
    Thanks Verizon for wasting my time. Now as others have succinctly put up: Go f-yourself.

    • TylerCameron

      They’re all going toward unlimited voice and text because people stopped buying those plans.

  • DC_Guy

    Ha ha Verizon has jokes I see! I’ll be on unlimited until they force me off. END OF STORY. It is so much more valuable for me to keep it since I can share it with my tablet. That’s how I catch up on all my TV shows so a tiered data plan will not help me.

    • Detonation

      Except tethering on unlimited data is technically against your contract terms and services….

      • http://twitter.com/geoff5093 Geoff Johnson

        Not if you have the unlimited hotspot package added

        • DC_Guy

          That is correct. I added the unlimited hotspot package. Costs me $25/month but is WELL worth it to me.

      • Mark Snider

        Not when you pay the the extra $30 to VZW for the right to have unlimited tethering like I do

    • Nick

      Me too! Only thing that sucks is not being able to upgrade my phone. Do you just pay full retail to get a new phone and keep your unlimited data?

      • DC_Guy

        Yes, I pay full retail. Foregoing that $400 subsidy is no comparison to the amount I’d have to pay for a tiered data plan.

        • Nick

          I have the Droid DNA, got it when it first came out. I argued a little and was able to keep my unlimited data, I know I wont for my next upgrade. I’m also on my second DNA insurance replacement, maybe I should just go through insurance again when this thing stops working. Haha

      • gunslinger

        new phone is what? between 5-700 bucks? that’ll last say 18 months. (depending on your use). a $700 phone that lasts 18 months is about 40 bucks a month. is the difference between your current contract, and what you’d be paying is at or above 40, it’s cheaper to buy the phone at full retail. it is really amazing if you go 2 years on a 500 phone. less than 21 bucks a month. if you can “save” that on your bill better buy retail.

  • BillySuede

    here comes the onslaught. verizon is waging war on grandfathered unlimited account-holders (i hate you all). i had to give mine up because i just HAD to get my note 3 the day it came out…

    stay strong, my friends.

    • cg

      I also have the Note 3…and it is on my unlimited data thanks to “Alternate Upgrade.”

      I have two basic phones, one of them used for Note 3, and the other will get used for perhaps the S5, though I can wait until it drops to $99 from Verizon. (Yes, that deal is on Amazon, but if you drop data after reverting the phone back to upgrade, you pay Amazon a $400 fee, per Amazon’s customer service reps…and you have to keep data for 181 days.)

      Yeah…this isn’t even a money play. I have no problem switching to T-Mobile if Verizon dumps me as a customer…I have a buddy who is a T-Mobile rep who will give me the best deal…until then, I will continue using my 20-80GB a month for what you or others pay for 2GB-6GB (depending on what customers are spending $30 a month these days…)

    • Anon

      Yes, I’m rooting for all you grandfathered unlimited data users. Live damn it. LIVE!

  • EC8CH

    Come on Verizon… Admire Ackbar could spot this one from a mile away.

  • http://infotainmentempire.blogspot.com Rob

    I pay under $115 a month for unlimited data and tethered data, text, and 450 minutes of which I never use (still get unlimited evenings and weekends).

    Obligatory:

    • mcdonsco

      $115/month? I’m unlimited everything for $120…? Unless you’re actually paying for hotspot?

      • tomn1ce

        My bill always comes in at $85-$87 with unlimited data, 450 minutes and 250 text…

        • mcdonsco

          I wish, but my phone is business use, so my voice minutes are always close to 2,000 my text is usually a few thousand and my data use is upwards of 20 gigs or more sometimes.

        • http://infotainmentempire.blogspot.com Rob

          That’s how much my bill is without unlimited hotspot but I have unlimited text and not bound to 250.

          • tomn1ce

            For texting I usually use Google Voice. 250 text/month on my plan is more then enough since I don’t rely on it for all my texting needs and I get to keep my unlimited data….

          • http://infotainmentempire.blogspot.com Rob

            I got a special plan when they were testing it in parts of Texas and Louisiana – $65 for unlimited text and nights/weekend calling and 450 minutes during the day. Throw $30 on top of that for unlimited data plus a discount for work and it puts me under $87 a month.

      • http://infotainmentempire.blogspot.com Rob

        Yes, paying for hotspot.

        • mcdonsco

          Ahh…that splains it…

          I dont really care for the folks that are quite obviously abusing their unlimited plans as they ARE one of the many reasons Verizon ditched unlimited data, however if your paying for hot spot and using a ton of data…ehh; OK :-)

          I’m a bit of a hypocrite here though as I refuse to pay for hotspot usage, but that’s only because I feel its absurd to pay an additional 25% to Verizon for the privelage of allowing my laptop to get email or check something on the mls now and then. Literally a tiny handful of times per month.

          But, if I was using a TON of hotspot out of necessity I would pay the $30/month.

          • http://infotainmentempire.blogspot.com Rob

            I use about 7-10 GB/month on my phone only. Honestly, I don’t even use the hotspot that much but I needed it for work. I currently do not have my phone rooted/ROM’ed so I gotta go the pay route. Plus I don’t ever want VZW to have an excuse to yank unlimited data from me if they caught me using a hotspot I didn’t pay for.

            Now that it has slowed down a bit at work I’m going to be using the crap out of my hotspot since I pay $30. The best part though is I don’t have to pay for activation fees or anything and I can turn it on/off whenever I want, even through the app so I don’t even have to call to have the feature removed or added.

            Too bad they didn’t allow like 500 MB of hotspot usage or something per month with your bill without paying extra, but that will never happen, especially with the way they have the plans set up and don’t want unlimited users to exist anymore.

          • mcdonsco

            Yea, I do on occasion pay for it. I used to root to get it but that was the ONLY reason I rooted and once fox fi seemed to actually work, I stopped rooting and use that (I prefer leaving my phone stock for the most part in case it does have a warranty issue)…but for the next month or so I’ll be paying for it again (likely) as I just picked up an s5 and though I haven’t tried it yet, I doubt fox fi will work on it right now.

          • Chris Lee

            I don’t understand how you can abuse an UNLIMITED plan that you pay for. UNLIMITED means that there is no cap.

  • BK

    I ditched my unlimited Verizon data a couple months ago and never looked back. Sold the line for a ton on eBay, got a T-Mobile $30 plan working, and it’s all good.

    Sure, keeping unlimited data is GREAT for some people. But for the MANY who use 1 GB or less a month and are hanging on just out of principle, it seems like a real waste of money.

    • Chris

      Some people don’t like to cry or worry about their data usage. Just like those who didn’t want to worry about what music to load up on their iPods

      • PoisonApple31

        Some people don’t even know that they have unlimited data or what shared data even is! :P

    • redstormpopcorn

      I think of my unlimited plan as data insurance. I might not need more than 2GB every month, but for the rare occasions I wind up pulling 16GB down at a relative’s place to backup & reformat their laptop over LTE instead of their tin-can DSL line it’s absolutely worth keeping. Just like how I don’t get hit-and-run at a stoplight every month, but Geico still gets their $60.

      • BK

        I see your point. But there are also a lot of people who also pay way too much for car insurance because they never consider what they actually need or shop around. Peace of mind is one thing, wasting money is another thing entirely.

    • cg

      There are MANY who have unlimited data and don’t want to deal with the nonsense…enjoy taking it in the whatever…

      BTW, thanks for the line…if a ton was $250, then that costs has already been absorbed and it is truly mine. :D I have two unlimited data lines with smart phones, PLUS that line I bought on ebay for a Jetpack. Oooooo yeah!!

      • BK

        Maybe I got lucky, but my line sold for a lot more than $250.

        • cg

          I got lucky too…at the time, $250.

          You just had me look up when I bought it on Paypal…it was exactly one year ago a couple of days ago! That means my 8.3 months has been absorbed and the line is mine… :)

          I would not pay $500+ for unlimited data…but $250-$300 is reasonable.

  • Xyvis

    I’ll keep my unlimited. Under contract until November 2015 :)

    • flosserelli

      Or until Verizon forces everyone onto tiered plans, including those who kept unlimited data during the system bug/loophole last November. Enjoy it while it lasts.

  • jzwerlz43

    what is verizon edge? i read online about it and was still slightly confuses about it. i got a text from verizon saying i was eligible for an upgrade through the edge program but not sure what it entails

    • Disqus_n00b

      You basically pay 2 device subsidies in order to upgrade more often than 2 years. not worth it.

      • jzwerlz43

        thanks!

      • akellar

        Somewhat inaccurate as their new plans discount Edge participants while they are on Edge. Not saying it’s a good deal but it’s not as bad as it once was.

    • Kyle

      It’s their “finance a phone” program. You use the upgrade to get a new phone, but instead of paying $200 and adding 2 more years of a contract and having to switch to their Everything plan, you pay for a $600 phone in payments….and after you pay a set amount on it you can trade it in on a new phone and continue with the added monthly payments or just finish the phone payments.

      • jzwerlz43

        gotcha that makes sense, thanks. im pretty sure im up for an upgrade at some point this year anyway and since im on tiered data already anyway im assuming it would be more cost effective just to wait for my actual upgrade at this point or is this deal any good?

        • Kyle

          Since you’re on tiered data already, if you use the Edge program it’ll only knock $10 off the cost of the plan. So normally you’ll spend $200 upfront for a $600 phone and then just extend the current plan price for 2 years. The other $400 of the phone is rolled into the cost of your plan. On Edge you pay the full $600 (in payments) and a plan where they’ve only knocked off $10/month, which equals $600 – $240 ($10 x 24 months) = $360. Which means you are technically paying $360 for the phone and the same plan for 2 years. So your out of pocket equates to $360 vs. $200 and the only so called feature of Edge is like I said about the trade in on a new phone before the 2 years are up and continuing the payments. That’s my interpretation of it all…don’t hold me to the specifics. Good Luck.

          • jzwerlz43

            thanks for the informed response lol ill just end up waiting for my regular upgrade then since it comes around my birthday!!

  • cjb3ck

    Dear Verizon,

    Let me know when you feature a 50GB a month plan for $50 a month, and then we’ll talk.

    I love my unlimited account!

    • M3D1T8R

      Yeah, a reasonable basic rate based on usage like any other utility would make sense, if they don’t want to offer unlimited. Like $1 per GB, with maybe a $20 “access” minimum or something. I would still end up paying way more than I do now but at least it would be a somewhat reasonable offering, while still allowing Verizon with massive profit margins ($1 for the 2¢ or whatever it actually costs them per GB).

    • Cael

      They would never.

  • rawson815

    Lmao!!!!!

    • Craig P

      how?

      • rawson815

        And this is a low month !!

      • Kyle

        Probably his primary internet source, even at home. So all browsing and streaming happening on that wonderful unlimited 4G.

        • rawson815

          True story I don’t even have a internet provider where I stay so thank god for LTE

      • Ray

        I often find that my home internet is slower then LTE so I usually don’t even turn it on. He probably does the same

    • Detonation

      How much of that was actually used on your phone and not tethered?

      • rawson815

        Not to sure I swap phones frequently so I couldn’t really give you an accurate answer

        • Detonation

          My point was that unless you’re paying the $20 for the tethering add on, bragging about how much data you use is a null argument. Justify it however you want, but your unlimited data terms specify that its just for your phone.

          • rawson815

            Doesn’t matter man I use it and my phone let’s me so your argument is null and void

          • Mr E

            Honestly, while I’d probably like for that to be the way it works, it’s not. I can’t say for sure if VZW can go after people who tether w/o paying, but just because you can, it doesn’t mean you’re allowed to.
            Out of curiosity, did you have to modify your phone in any way to allow it to tether (custom roms, etc)? I’m actually genuinely curious as I was always under the impression the stock firmware wouldn’t allow this…. I guess aside from some third-party apps that never seemed reliable enough to switch to completely for home internet, etc.

          • Cael

            And Verizon was told they couldn’t charge for tethering. BIG WHOOP.

          • Detonation

            Only on tiered data plans.

          • Cael

            And tiered data is a trap with free tethering, unlimited minutes and text as bait. It’s ok to go to Verizon’s party but don’t drink their kool-aid.

      • How

        I’m pretty sure that’s all downloads running all day long (torrent). I don’t know any other way you could rack up that much data. I mean even with a job 40 hours a week, is it even possible to rack up that much data when you’re not working?

        • rawson815

          I work 50 hours a week and don’t download any torrents actually

        • Stephen Cox

          No, you don’t have to torrent to get that kind of usage. I was downloading a bunch of Windows ISOs straight from Digital River over LTE (to my sd card, no tethering for all those that want to cry about it) and I hit over 30GB from that one day alone. My internet connection at home is 10Mbit and there is usually a netflix stream running, while my phone sits idle and I usually get about 30Mbit on LTE where i live in the sticks.

          Of course it wouldn’t have been so high if I didn’t have to redownload a bunch of them after they failed their SHA1 checksums. I’ve noticed the faster the speed, the more prone to errors it will have.

          • M3D1T8R

            Yeah, just an hour or two of Netflix per day can easily use over 50GB a month.

    • Ray

      Cue the idiot that will say your the reason Verizon no longer offers unlimited data.

      • j__h

        Why is that not fairly true?

        • Detonation

          Because everyone here hates Verizon so exploiting their services is automatically justified and accepted I guess

          • rawson815

            You mad bro?

          • Detonation

            Mad about what? I still have unlimited data, but I’m also not a cheap ass and pay for home internet rather than steal it from Verizon and then brag about it online.

          • rawson815

            If you didn’t read down Inow one offers internet where I live so ? …. And cheap please your talking to some one that has both HTC one m8 and gs5 along every phone that catches my interest cheap isn’t the word more like taking advantage of what I pay for so I’ll drink one for you since your so worried about it

          • Detonation

            What you pay for is unlimited data on your phone. Pay the extra $20 a month for a unlimited hotspot, cheap ass.

          • rawson815

            Read above link man

          • rawson815

            Read above link man

          • Detonation

            Except that ruling only applied to tiered data plans. They’re still allowed to charge for it on grandfathered unlimited data plans.

          • rawson815

            Yeah against FCC regulations true the spectrum in general can’t be charged for

          • CSick

            “What if I have an old Verizon unlimited data plan? Can I download an app and avoid the $20 tethering fee too?

            Unfortunately, the answer to this question is no.”

            http://www.cnet.com/news/what-verizons-fcc-tethering-settlement-means-to-you-faq/

          • rawson815

            You actually can if your not running kit kat have done it plenty man its called fox fi

          • CSick

            I’m not saying it’s impossible. But you seemed to be using the settlement to justify that what you were doing is supported by the FCC ruling which isn’t entirely true.

          • rawson815

            Actually you said no you can’t and I simply said yes you can. Which is the way it is suppose to be and will be again once there is a proper way for fox fi to work with kk

          • CSick

            I was quoting the article that I linked to. That’s why I put quotes around it. Is it possible to do it? Yes. Is doing so backed by the FCC ruling if you’re on unlimited data? No.

          • rawson815

            Apologize quick reading at work very true but there is a way to tether with out root or tether plan and Verizon allows it

          • M3D1T8R

            Wait, you pay Verizon for unlimited data, but call using that data stealing? That’s….. stupid.

          • Jeremy Gentry

            Never underestimate the power of the Scout’s code

          • K

            Childish reaction, bro

        • Ray

          Do I need to explain to you why a tradition restarunt makes more money then a buffet also?

      • duke69111

        No, he’s an idiot for openly posting a screenshot and admitting to what he’s doing, unless he has an unlimited hotspot.

        • rawson815
          • Mr E

            Interesting article. This is also a very brief summary of a complicated issue. When some of these changes first went down, I read in other places that VZW can weasel out of this rule claiming that you also use the older, restrictable 3G/CDMA network as well, and could limit that. In addition, the new plans offer tethering, but the unlimited plans specifically did not so it’s not completely black-and-white. That said, obviously people are getting around it, at least for now.

          • John

            So I have a gs3 with unlimited data. Can I use the tether/hot spot on my phone for free or will Verizon see I’m using it and charge me. No I don’t want to use 3rd party apps just the one already in the phones software. Sorry probably noob question.

          • M3D1T8R

            No you’ll be charged extra for this, I think $30. Otherwise you have to use FoxFi or something, but it won’t work after KitKat.

          • cmorty72

            Fox Fi now works with KK.
            Either way you look at it, this offer from the Evil Empire known as Verizon Wireless is a virtual load of dookie.

          • M3D1T8R

            Not according to FoxFi/PDANet’s official Supported Devices page. Or the warning that pops up every time I start it on my stock DNA (not yet Kit Kat) saying Do Not Upgrade to Kit Kat or Fox Fi will no longer work.
            Please share where you’re getting your info, as it doesn’t seem right. Soon as I get around to it I will be rooting my DNA to keep hotspot, as the stock KK update will be coming any day now.

          • Drew Landgrave

            Using it right now on my KK Nexus 7… it works

          • John

            Dang. Thanks for the info. Heard foxfi was kinda slow or had some kinda cap but was still the best. Wondering if its worth staying on 4.3 for the tether and wait for foxfi to patch when 4.4 comes out. I think they patched 4.3 for Verizon not to long ago so 4.4 will take forever IF ever.

          • M3D1T8R

            Not slow, generally works perfectly for me. I paid for the full version ($7 or something years ago), I think Free limits you to a tiny amount of data before shutting off.
            My understanding is KitKat changed something so it’s unlikely we’ll see a work around any time soon.

          • Andrew

            Wrong. My Moto X is rooted 4.4.2 and I tether with the stock app. I’m not getting charged for wifi hotspot access.

          • KleenDroid

            You can root your S3 and tether all you want.

          • BroRob

            I find that article interesting because it’s almost 2 years old and Verizon is still blocking tether apps like foxfi. Whats worse is that I’m no longer on unlimited (horrible decision there) and they still believe they can tell me HOW I use the 2Gig of data that I pay for. I only root for 2 reasons, backups and tethering. Needless to say, my contract is up at the end of the summer and I will be moving on.

        • Ray

          No need to hide is there something that can happen to him for using as much data as he pleases?

          • duke69111

            After reading the article he posted below, I guess not.

      • mcdonsco

        So you apparently think high data usage like this has zero effect on their network?

        Who’s the idiot?

        • Ray

          So let me get this straight if I pay for a 10GB plan it won’t affect their network but if I pay for unlimited and use the same 10GB of data all of a sudden I’m clogging the network?

          • mcdonsco

            Have you had a catscan recently? You may want to check in for one…

            NO!!! I was referring to the douche that posted 168+gbs of use.

            Jesus…use that gray matter in your skull.

          • Ray

            The amount of data someone uses Doesn’t clog up the network. That would be Bandwidth do your research and come back to the internet and try again next time.

          • mcdonsco

            Wow…huh…back in tech pre-school I seem to recall bandwidth having a lot to do with data use

          • Mark

            I think the change to a tried structure was for 2 main reasons:

            1) Money. No doubt about it.
            2) People are more conscious about actual usage when they have to pay for it. I don’t think it was necessarily the people who used 50 to 100 gbs of data per month which caused it, as these are the people who are likely still on unlimited (and are mainly outliners). But rather the casual user who would use 10-15 gbs a month because there was no limit and they didn’t even think about it. Suddenly you cap these people and they lower to around 2-6 gbs per month and are more conscious about their usage and you can quickly see a dramatic rise in network traffic. So now you have the people who really want the extra data are still using it, but your casual “whoops used 10 gbs this month” user are severely limited

          • mcdonsco

            While I can appreciate your argument…I’m going with option one and option one only.

            We’re now in an ever growing high data use society, heading towards more (heck now even our watches and glasses are soon to be using data) and carriers recognized it and chose to try to capitalize on it and make as much profit from it as possible.

            Now you have carriers like t-mobile and sprint seeing the backlash and back peddling…that’s good, but until their data networks can realistically challenge Verizon and at&t the latter two will continue to try and rape as many consumers as possible…because they can…they DO have the overwhelmingly better data networks and for those, like me, that require reliable data in as many places as possible, we’re just stuck.

            I can’t wait for (and suppose maybe it’s more hoping for) the day when t-mobile and/or sprints data networks can really give the big guys a run for their money

          • Jarred Sutherland

            Welcome to Droid Life, where about 2% of the people here have a clue, the rest just pretend (poorly).

          • mcdonsco

            Sad isn’t it…especially when he tried to “school” me on it…amazing how someone so clueless as to technology can hop onto a technology forum and try to “school” others…sad…really sad.

          • Jarred Sutherland

            I stopped thinking it was sad a long time ago .. there are plenty of people who don’t have a clue.

          • Jarred Sutherland

            Dear Ray, you have no clue. Please stop, not while your ahead, but before you put yourself behind any further.

          • Bill

            You mad bro? Lmao

          • mcdonsco

            You have no idea how much I completely detest that saying!

          • Your Brother

            You mad, bra?

          • mcdonsco

            Grrrr

          • Xeeros

            Just to flame the situation one week to go and

            193,592.32 MB of Unlimited used

            ;-) Unlimited is good and yes it CAN clog the networks but all in all we unlimited users do not get any preferential treatment in the priority queue. We get the same speeds you get, granted we can keep going forever without concern but otherwise same throughput.

          • picaso86

            In addition, when our unlimited contracts are due for an upgrade Verizon don’t give us any discounts at all (without switching our plans) therefore we have to pay for our phones retail price. Therefore, this is our way to stick it to them… I know it’s selfish, but life is not fair anyways.

          • mrjayviper

            but if you’re on a tiered plan, you pay more as well so the impact on the network as such is not as bad

        • terrorist96
      • K

        Hogging up the data bandwidth. Add the countless more of these idiots across the country and now you have network speeds that aren’t as good as it could be.

        • coolsilver

          Bandwidth = Throughput. Not usage.

        • Champion1229

          Do you see Verizon complaining? Didn’t think so! Those contract-breaching, law-bending, thumb-suckers have more money than they know what to do with. If they really cared about you as a customer, they would actually invest some of that money into making the network more robust ( read, increasing the overall throughput of each tower / connection) but instead, all they are focused on doing is raping more money out of their “loyal customers.”

      • calculatorwatch

        I have no problem with people taking full advantage of their unlimited data. But I also have no problem with Verizon shutting those people down that put an incredibly high strain on their network for only $30 a month, so long as Verizon does so legally.

        What I do have a problem with is people who use unlimited data within normal limits getting lumped in with the people that “abuse” it and everyone getting shut down, but that would be purely Verizon’s fault.

        • mcdonsco

          Agreed…those that feel there is nothing wrong with pulling 168gb/month on a $30/month WIRELESS service are clueless…that’s not, and never was, the intention of the unlimited data product. It is for home service such as Comcast or frontier…not Verizon wireless.

          I consider my own usage to be on the very high end of practical needs for data for my business and I rarely break 20gb. I was actually surprisesd to see mine there now with a relatively light month behind me.

          • Chris Lee

            Pardon me, but you appear clueless. He is not abusing his UNLIMITED data. He is paying $30 a month for UNLIMITED data. He can use as much as he wants.

          • Trey Mitchell

            I would like to point out that not all of us are fortunate enough to live in an area where we can get Cable or DSL. I live in the middle of a corn field. we have a terrestrial wireless service that isn’t always reliable. when It goes down I tether my phone. some times I use 4gb other times I use 80 it just depends on the month. I see nothing wrong with using an unlimited plan as if it were unlimited. If they didn’t mean that then they shouldn’t have sold it that way in the first place.
            were it not for my home internet service sucking I could live fine on tiered data, but it’s ABSURD for them to think I’m EVER going to pay them more money for a tiered service than I do now for unlimited.

          • mcdonsco

            If that’s your only access to Internet I have no problem with it…it’s the dipshlts that refuse to get home service that I have a problem with.

            Heck when my connection f’s up at home you bet I’m using my phone hotspot for normal home use until it’s restored.

          • Bizi

            Who appointed you the God of the internet? If a person lives alone why would they pay for home internet service when they have unlimited mobile service. That’s like driving into work but still buying a monthly bus pass

          • mcdonsco

            Just like you and everyone else, I have opinions…you don’t like em? Don’t adopt em.

          • picaso86

            Right! it’s like paying for unlimited TV Cable service and only be able watch a few channels just to not “abuse” their service. Does not make any sense…

        • Droidzilla

          We now have phones that will stream HD video and output it in 1080p to a full sized HDTV, and Verizon will tout those features as major selling points. Tell me, how is it an “abuse” to take your S4 and use the features it already has to stream 20 hours of Netflix a week? That alone would get someone up to around 180GB in a month, and there would be nothing nefarious done; just using the built in features.

          • calculatorwatch

            If you’re streaming it to your TV, then you could be on WiFi which pretty much lumps you in with all the other people who refuse to get home internet service. Not saying these people are any more wrong then someone who watches Netflix straight on their smartphone all the time, in fact they’re not wrong at all. It was Verizon’s mistake to offer up unlimited data without realizing the extent to which some people would utilize it. However, at some point they’re gonna correct that mistake, and I just hope they do so by capping the maximum amount of data you can use on “unlimited” instead of abolishing it all together.

    • Trent Cameron

      And to think I was getting a little worried about hitting 15GB half way through my billing cycle. Like you, my LTE at home is much faster than my ISP. Just urban enough to get LTE, but too rural for anything other than satellite internet.

      • rawson815

        If you have it use it man

        • Trent Cameron

          Have you ever gotten a notice from VZW that you’re using too much and they threaten to throttle you back? I’ve always tried to stay “under the radar” with this.

          • rawson815

            No I haven’t heard anything from vzw

          • TylerCameron

            Verizon may not throttle LTE traffic. It’s against the law. The provisions for that 700MHz block C spectrum are they can’t lock a device, limit it, or throttle the traffic on that spectrum.

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            You give them permission to throttle you in the Terms of Service.

            As for the regulations, the relevant language is:

            47 CFR 27.16 (b) (1):

            “Standards shall include technical requirements reasonably necessary for third parties to access a licensee’s network via devices or applications without causing objectionable interference to other spectrum users or jeopardizing network security. The potential for excessive bandwidth demand alone shall not constitute grounds for denying, limiting or restricting access to the network.”

            Note the specific wording: the “potential for excessive bandwidth demand”. However, if they can prove that someone is using excessive bandwidth (as defined by their technical standards and Terms of Service), they absolutely can throttle you as “causing objectionable interference to other spectrum users”. A person is welcome to fight that, of course, but I highly doubt that Verizon would lose. They will have all of the access records and simply need to compare the objectionable bandwidth usage to typical usage in that area to show that a delta of 8000% on a consistent basis is a reasonable definition of excessive.

          • M3D1T8R

            Thanks for the quote but I think you read it wrong. It says, “The potential for excessive bandwidth demand alone shall not constitute grounds for denying, limiting or restricting access to the network.”
            In other words: Excessive bandwidth demand shall NOT…deny/limit/restrict access to the network.

          • coolsilver

            As some fail to mention. High Data use is not the same as High Bandwidth. You can transfer 15GB or whatever over a month a little at a time. What is considered excessive bandwidth is having a 10 threaded download of that 15GB at once. Bandwidth being your capacity in the pipes not how many drops of that is sent to you.

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            The key words (I can guarantee the ones the lawyers will be arguing over and the ones you left out) are “potential” and “alone” . Those give them enough room to allow the throttling of bandwidth usage which genuinely affects other users. In fact, they explicitly state in their Terms of Service:

            “if you use an extraordinary amount of data and fall within the top 5% of Verizon Wireless data users we may reduce your data throughput speeds periodically for the remainder of your then current and immediately following billing cycle to ensure high quality network performance for other users at locations and times of peak demand”

            http://www.verizonwireless.com/dam/support/pdf/collateral/ConsumerBrochure_EN.pdf (page 29)

            Those terms certainly qualify as “technical requirements reasonably necessary for third parties to access a licensee’s network via devices or applications without causing objectionable interference to other spectrum users”, and as such are not in any way illegal.

            It is absolutely not illegal for them to throttle their users so long as they adhere to their own ToS, which seem to be explicitly written to follow the letter of the law.

          • M3D1T8R

            “Potential” and “Alone” means security issues maybe yes, excessive use in itself, no.
            The “top 5%” explicit warning issue was in regard to 3G data use, and is not current to their 4G data network. Legally they can not do it (throttle, etc.) with 4G due to the FCC lawsuit results.
            I looked into this fairly extensively last summer when I finally was able to (barely, with amplifiers, antennas, etc.) pick up 4G at my home, to make sure I wouldn’t be potentially red flagged and throttled or lose my unlimited. After nearly a year of use now of regular 50 to 100GB a month, I can say I was right in what I found, or I’m just really lucky. I’m quite sure it’s not the latter.

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            It is part of their current Terms of Service, and applies to their entire network. You can’t have Verizon service now, right this minute, without being subject to those Terms. “Potential for excessive bandwidth demand alone” is not ambiguous; it has nothing to do with security. I broke out the words themselves as important, but they are only important when considered in the context of the entire statement.

            Also, throttling doesn’t mean “BOOM, 3G only for you!”; it means your speed will be reduced relative to other users during peak times. I.e., if they are getting 40 Mbps, you may only be able to pull 10 Mbps. Hard throttling to the point that it is readily apparent is usually unnecessary with current network technology except in extremely congested areas where bandwidth for all is extremely tight already.

            So, I’d say you’re not lucky, you either a) don’t notice any kind of throttle because the connection is “fast enough” or b) there isn’t enough usage in your area compared to the number of users for your usage to make any difference to them at all. From your description of what it took to get your signal in the first place, I’d guess you are in a fairly low-density-population area and would lean towards option b).

          • bmacbowler

            can you share your method to boosting your 4g at home please?

      • mcdonsco

        Strange…I’m 100% rural, a solid 5 minute drive to the nearest suburban sub division, and I can get either Comcast internet or fiber (the former I have now, the latter has been installed once and I’m moving back to it next week).

    • M3D1T8R

      I’m only half way through the month and already almost to 90GB. Yeah it’s definitely gonna be a new record for me this month.

      • Jeremy Gross

        IS IT YOURE WIFI ROUTER? I BARLEY USE ALL OF THAT OVER WIFI AT HOME

        • M3D1T8R

          Why are you yelling? Yeah it is my only internet option where I live, WiFi hotspot through my phone.

          • PoisonApple31

            He just left his cap locks on – one would hope.

    • mcdonsco

      I’m high usage for sure, but this is just stupid. Really, really stupid.

      • Cael

        No it’s not.

    • Cael

      That is the most beautiful thing I have seen today.

      • rawson815

        Thanks man lol

        • El_Big_CHRIS

          Omg teach me sensei. I’m on unlimited and I top 30 gigs per month. I want to do what you do

    • starnovsky

      I think I’m using less than that on my wired broadband. Well done, sir.

    • Jeremiah Hawkins

      What??

    • Mike Broder

      I used to play that game too…just to see if they’d do anything….this was awhile ago and the answer was and still is NO…beat ya

    • 4g63mark

      That’s AWESOME man!!!! I’m only at 120GB so far for the month. I definitely need to step my game up.

  • Daeshaun Griffiths

    aren’t they supposed to start VoLTE for customers this year? I see where their head is, but why is it there?

    • http://twitter.com/geoff5093 Geoff Johnson

      It will be a while before CDMA voice is killed off, I’m not worried.

      • Daeshaun Griffiths

        That is a fact. And now that I’ve looked into it, the benefits of volte are minor. Quicker call connections? Meh. Clearer voices? Good enough today. Use of 1 radio instead of 2???? That’s actually a good one. Simpler plans? They aren’t that hard to understand.

        • http://twitter.com/geoff5093 Geoff Johnson

          Yeah, plus I never really call anyone lol

        • Kyle

          So with VoLTE, Verizon will know exactly part of our data was for calls and SMS, and that will be apart of the unlimited pool of “data” whereas everything else is regular data……So..I wonder how long it will take before someone finds a way to flag the regular data as unlimited pool of data…hmmmm

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            The VoLTE data will be routed through a dedicated server, where the software will connect to the telephony service or directly to the receiver IP, and likely the whole connection being bandwidth-limited to ~320 kbps. The likelihood of getting unlimited data running at all, let alone at full speed, is pretty unlikely.

  • litobirdy

    I pay $133.xx for 2 smartphones shared 1400 minutes but each unlimited data and text on verizon.

  • Eric G Canoy

    should we create a petition to stick with our unlimited plan?

    • Chris

      Like Verizon will listen….

      Well they did when people protested the online bill payment charge…..

      • Raping_the_Consumer

        Charge for online bill payment? An option you (VZW) forced on the consumer? Then turn around and charging for such privilege? Yeah, it was the in-house lawyers they was listening to and not the people. They told them they would not have a change in any US court system if a class-action lawsuit occurred.

  • Jeremy Gentry

    I pay 72 dollars a month for unlimited data and text……this sounds like a STEAL! :/

    • http://twitter.com/geoff5093 Geoff Johnson

      I pay $60/mo for unlimited data, text, and 450 minutes. Gotta love the $10 unlimited data plan with an 18% employee discount!

  • htowngtr

    Uh, yea, go fk yourself VZW. I’ll stay on unlimited.

  • Tom Luley

    I will never renew my contract unless it is to another unlimited plan that doesnt/will never exist.

    Unlimited FOREVA!

    • The Narrator

      bout to run a marathon later today. <3 michael scott

    • mcdonsco

      I just renewed my unlimited data contract with Verizon about 3 weeks ago.

      A fluke for sure, thanks to best buy, but at that time I got two phones on contract pricing with my single unlimited data plan. Unfortunately the second time I did it it renewed my contract…but hey, I made enough on the two phones to pay for my new S5 and the ETF if I ever decide to ditch Verizon.

      • Aaron C

        What is this “contract” thing, and why would I want one?

        • mcdonsco

          I didn’t do it on purpose but I got $1450 worth of phones for $450.

          So after buying my s5 today and including an ETF if I ever want to break contract I STILL came out $50 ahead.

          Well…ok…after selling them, probably out $200 … but that is contract pricing for a full retail s5 and keeping my unlimited data with the possible (but unlikely) ETF taken into consideration as well…so even after selling those phones, without the ETF, I’m still $150 ahead.

          Free s5 and $150 to renew an UNLIMITED DATA contract on verizon?

          Who thinks that’s not worth it?

          Hell, selling the s5 to leave would more than cover the ETF anyway.

          • Aaron C

            How did you renew your unlimited data and still get a phone discount? I thought if you used any phone upgrade (like you did for your S5), you had to give up your unlimited data? Not true? Before I switched to T-Mo, I had to buy a phone outright in order to not lose my unlimited. At least, that’s what I was told, so I paid full price.

          • Aaron C

            NVM — I see you did the “Best Buy” thing.

          • mcdonsco

            Best buy incompetence…on website it let me buy a phone on contract pricing whilst keeping my unlimited as at that time I was month to month.

            Completed purchase in store, they didn’t catch it…sold that phone. Wondered if I could do it again…that time they caught it in store…cancelled order and ordered again to ship to my house…tossed my existing Sim in and poof!…second time though it did reset my contract (not the first time though for some reason; hence why I did it again :-)).

            Sold both of those phones (iPhone 5s 32gb and note 3) and then just paid full retail with the proceeds for the s5.

            Essentially…I got lucky…TWICE.

    • DJ SPY

      This was extremely funny and appropriate when someone posted it when the news of Google selling Motorola broke out.

  • zepfloyd

    Yeah….

    • http://twitter.com/geoff5093 Geoff Johnson

      Actually reading more into it, Verizon isn’t offereing this solely to unlimited data users, it’s offering discounted plans to anyone who brings their own phone.

      “Starting April 17th, customers of Big Red are going to be able to bring their own off-contract devices onto shared MORE Everything plans at a discount.”

      • K

        Yup. Not sure why DL made it seem like it was only open to current Unlimited data customers. I hate vzw as much as everyone here but we gotta be somewhat fair to them :)

        • 4g63mark

          I don’t hate Verizon. I’ve been with them for 7 years and they’ve always had the best coverage and customer service. With that said I do hate their greed as much as anyone else’s. I actually hate Google a lot more than Verizon…… Google, Apple, Microsoft and lots of other companies funnel their profits through foreign countries with loose tax laws. So because they don’t want too pay their taxes, we the american citizens who aren’t theives end up paying their share…… If there was a way to have a phone with Ubuntu Touch or Web OS running smoothly on Verizon, I would have already ditched Google and Android.

          • wtsamatta

            I’m not no stooge nor a fool…but have you actually seen one of those companies tax bills? The numbers are a matter of public record…

            Over the past three years, Verizon has paid more than $11.1 billion in taxes – including nearly $3.4 billion in 2012 alone. Verizon’s 2010-2012 payments include more than $1.5 billion in income taxes, $4.0 billion in employment taxes, and $5.6 billion in property and other taxes.

          • 4g63mark

            That’s the point I was making, Google has paid as little as 2.4% in recent years. Verizon to my knowledge doesn’t use these questionable tax dodging tactics to cheat americans.

          • How Much Is Enough?

            Companies keep 21 Trillion abroad in tax havens to not pay taxes, Apple Keeps 100’s of Billions in Ireland. GW Bush gave a Tax free amnesty back in his reign and all these corporations brought back all their money and did not create a single job. The only thing companies did was pay off stock holders with the money when it returned.

            Companies don’t want to pay taxes, or invest in America where they get their security and freedom, if they don’t want to contribute like the rest of have to do then they should get the hell out

      • abqnm

        Aside from buying used, who really has a Verizon device lying around to just bring to the carrier? If you aren’t on Verizon, you really have no reason to even own a Verizon phone, so while advertised, I don’t see this as being a popular option.