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Qualcomm Announces Snapdragon 808 and 810, Highest Performing Mobile Processors to Date

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Qualcomm announced two new Snapdragon processors this morning, the Snapdragon 808 and the Snapdragon 810. According to Qualcomm, these two chipsets are the highest performing mobile processors from the company to date, specifically geared at powering the latest generation of flagship smartphones and tablets. 

Both processors support 3x20MHz carrier aggregation designed to reach CAT 6 speeds of up to 300 Mbps, meaning downloads on mobile devices could potentially be quite fast in comparison to how they are now. Here in the United States, we still have a bit of work to do on our infrastructure before we see LTE Advanced across the nation, but AT&T and Verizon have been leading the charge.

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The Snapdragon 810 and Snapdragon 808 chips are both 64-bit enabled, as well as LTE-enabled out of the gate. Qualcomm states that these two chips are the company’s “focus on 64-bit leadership, accelerating its availability across all product tiers, while maintaining a long-term commitment to the continued development of its own next-generation custom 64-bit CPU microarchitecture.”

Let’s talk about how these two separate chips differ, shall we?

Highlights

Snapdragon 810

  • Native 4K Ultra HD support.
  • Combined 64-bit quad core ARM Cortex-A57 CPUs and Cortex-A53 CPUs.
  • Adreno 430 GPU (30% faster performance over the Adreno 420).
  • Support for OpenGL ES 3.1, plus hardware tessellation.
  • The Snapdragon 810 intros high-speed LPDDR4 memory.
  • Frame buffer compression and external 4K display support via HDMI1.4.
  • Supports NFC, Bluetooth 4.1, and USB 3.0.

Snapdragon 808

  • Designed for WQXGA devices, featuring resolutions of 2560 x 1600.
  • Adreno 418 GPU (20% faster performance over the Adreno 330).
  • Support for OpenGL ES 3.1, plus hardware tessellation.
  • Configured with two ARM Cortex-A57 cores paired with a quad Cortex-A53 CPU.
  • 12-bit dual Image Signal Processors.
  • Support for LPDDR3 memory.
  • Frame buffer compression and external 4K display support via HDMI1.4.

Both new Snapdragons are set to begin sampling with OEMs in the second half of 2014. In terms of when we should start seeing these becoming highly adopted, we might have to wait a while. Worst case scenario, CES 2015 should be pretty awesome.

Via: Qualcomm [2]
  • https://www.facebook.com/christopher.johnsc chris_johns

    moto x

    • Trevor

      More like Moto x3. Maybe that iteration will have one of these processors. Maybe.

  • http://www.ytmnd.com MH

    The note 4 will have the 810 in it.

  • http://twitter.com/geoff5093 Geoff Johnson

    Hope these are in the LG G3!

  • joejoe5709

    I’m hoping for LG G3 but realistically probably Note 3 adoption.

  • http://people.ign.com/mrfrodo24 MrFrodo24

    Qualcomm is moving too fast for the OEMs.

    • LionStone

      That’s good, better than the other way around.

  • bobbyp

    I would love to see one of these in a powerhouse tablet but I am not certain about a phone really making the most of it right now.

  • MistaButters

    If you were actually able to get 300Mbps, you would chew through a 2GB data plan in under a minute. (roughly 53 seconds).

    Hopefully you still have an unlimited data plan.

    • flosserelli

      Yep, and carriers are counting on that.

    • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

      Omg… It doesn’t work like that. We’ve been through this. Faster doesn’t more more.

      • MistaButters

        If you are opening something with a static size like a webpage, then sure. I was just saying if you could max out that bandwidth.

        Also, video streaming apps often push through higher content when you have a faster connection. I chewed through 2GB of data in an hour streaming basketball with the NCAA app over LTE. I disable LTE and used HSPA+ and only went through about 400MB the next hour. So, in that case, faster does equal more.

    • michael arazan

      Well with carrier speeds here in the US being slower than some third world countries, even if our phones had the ability to download 300Mbps, they wouldn’t be able to until carriers actually upgraded their networks and relieved all the congestion by doubling LTE towers everywhere.

  • flosserelli

    Two questions:
    1. If there are 3 channels each up to 150 Mbps, why does the “aggregated data pipe” max at 300 Mbps (instead of 450 Mbps)
    2. Will this affect battery life?

    • Zac S

      I would assume that running three LTE channels would drain battery faster over extended periods of time, but you could potentially download things quicker and conserve battery because of that.

      • flosserelli

        That is what I am afraid of. I don’t want to go through another Thunderbolt experience.

        • StoryTeller

          Yeah. Because they surely forgot about power efficiency when they designed these new processors.

    • S_T_R

      It’s because it can CONNECT to up to 3 separate channels (for example LTE on 850, 1700, 1900) simultaneously, and those 3 channels can be up to 20 MHz wide. However, it can only process up to 300Mbps. This isn’t a limitation if a couple of the channels are only 10MHz, or even less. However, there are precisely zero places on earth where you have 60MHz of LTE available.

      And yes, using all 3 channels AND maxing out the throughput will roast your battery.

      • flosserelli

        Better stock up on spare batteries…

  • rawson815

    Am I the only one that doesn’t see a reason to have a 4k display in a screen that is most likely going to be 5 inches ??? Don’t get me wrong I would love to look at it but I just think this is getting a bit ridiculous

    • The Narrator

      That’s why we need bigger phones. Oh and you ever heard of that thing called a Tablet?

      • MistaButters

        We do not need bigger phones. No. No… no.

        • The Narrator

          Bring me a G2 in a 5.5 size, im all over it. No bezels for the win.

      • rawson815

        Lol OK well I hate to say this buy even on a 15 inch tablet 4k is a little bit exsesive so yes I am very aware there are suck things called tablets.Are you aware 4k optimization is for 60 inch TVs and up ?? 1080 on a 40inch TV is still a very good resolution and ad far as I go is 1080 on my 5 inch phone but that’s all my opinion anyway

        • The Narrator

          I just like to have the best of the best. Qualcomm is great with battery optimization so I’m not worried there.

        • Tyler

          Phones and tablets aren’t sitting 10+ feet away from you like a TV. A 4k 10″ display in a tablet would be somewhere in the 400 to 500 ppi range. No worse than 1080p phones.

          • Nikuliai

            I use my 42” tv as a monitor, with only 1080p, and there is no problem, the pixel war is starting to be pretty stupid imo, 1080 isn’t even worldwide yet, I haven’t seen 1 plan to use 4K in TV, it’s pretty much worthless to me, I know a lot of people is crazy about pixels, but it’s not a real need since considering storage on mobile phones and the (actual) wave system can’t afford to use 4K…

            but it’s going to happen anyway

      • Braden Abbott

        Exactly. They are just going to keep getting bigger, part of the wearable evolution we forget about is the wireless headset, which when paired with a touchless device and/or a watch alleviate your embarrassment of talking on a big slab. I never want to see a 4K display on a pocketable device, HOWEVER, THE CPU NEEDS TO SUPPORT IT because in the future most people will only have one primary device that we connect to bigger 4K displays. I think that devices up to 10 inches should not exceed QHD, leaving 4K for the big slabs and TVs.

    • S_T_R

      Screen mirroring to an HDTV through MHL, Miracast or WiDi.

      The problem is that phones don’t have enough storage to hold more than 5 minutes of 4K, so you could plug it into your 4KTV and play a 5 minute presentation.

      • Braden Abbott

        4K video can be compressed to less than 6GB an hour with the new H.265 and VP9 codecs, see Netflix…

      • Braden Abbott

        Mud? Have you been living under a rock downloading 500MB movies from piratebay over DSL? 1080p compressed the same way is only 2GB/hour and looks excellent. Are you saying that this extra 4GB/hour used for 4k is complete waste? I convert blurays to 2GB/hour mp4 files and play them on 120″ screen, I have asked friends to compare uncompressed bluray clips and my compressed files played back to back of the same exact scenes and nobody can tell the difference so your point is completely laughable dude

    • renz

      for me even 2k is useless for 5 inch screen

      • rawson815

        Agreed

    • OF

      Just because!! I mean I sure don’t need a phone as powerful as my desktop computer, but damn, I wouldn’t complain! :)

    • Tyler

      4k would be great for tablets imagine a nexus 10 with 810 and 4k display. Would be no different than 1080p on 5″

      • http://www.ytmnd.com MH

        Most likely the Note 4 will have a 6″ display

        • Tyler

          That still doesn’t need 4k maybe 2k but I’m still not convinced.

          • http://www.ytmnd.com MH

            Yeah, but a boy can dream.

    • JMonkeYJ

      Qualcomm Snapdragon processors are used in everything these days, even TVs. The features they add are not necessarily specifically for the mobile market.

  • T4rd

    Performance is way more than adequate already. I’m more interested in
    TDP and power efficiency improvements. I could never find hard numbers
    or trusted sources, but I read at a few different places that the 800
    actually had a higher TDP than the 600. These values should be going
    down with every revision, not up.

    • S_T_R

      TDP is just the max temperature before the CPU throttles itself. It says nothing about typical power draws, which would be much lower. You can have a CPU which draws much less power 99% of the time, but when you need to crank it up it puts out more heat.

  • Disqus_n00b

    You can burn through your cap in 7 seconds! So useful!

    • T4rd

      Eh, you could do that with any LTE phone.

    • MistaButters

      53 seconds (8 bits in a byte)

      • Chris Hannan

        55 actually, considering you have 2GB.

        • MistaButters

          Ah yes. Good call :p

    • Cael

      w00t for unlimited

  • Hans Dirk Kwazneski

    And everyones obsolete. #techthesedays

  • xzero425x

    Here’s to hoping the Lg G3 has one of these babies in it

    • zepfloyd

      Definitely not. Sampling late 2014 means in devices early 2015. G4/GS6/new new One, next year, yes.

    • The Narrator

      The G3 will sport a 805. LG is always first to the game when it comes to processors

    • Steve

      Not gonna happen. They just did the press release…it’s gonna be a while before you see a device with them in it. Most likely
      end of this year / beginning of 2015. Besides, while LTE-A / Carrier Aggregation is the future, no carriers offer it at this point
      in time anyway. What’s the point of having the tech in a chip that you can’t use? Next LG will more than likely be 801/805 if
      it uses a Qualcom chip. Lots of rumors are pointing to them using someone else (Mediatek) or even their own Octacore chip.

      • renz

        not sure about mediatek since mediatek chip usually only targeting entry and mid level performance with their chip. so the chance of mediatek chip in LG flagship device is rather slim. all i heard so far that they might use their own SoC (Odin) for their next flagship

        • Noble Star

          Don’t think that they will use the Mediatek chip because it lacks in graphics power but it is fast as a processor.

  • Nihilist

    too bad lte is still spotty in the states. 3 processors shifting data looks great. now if we could only get real broadband like they do in europe.

    • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

      Spotty? Between Verizon, and At&t … Especially Verizon there are few places you can go and not get LTE

    • MistaButters

      I think the only time I don’t have LTE is during a stretch on the drive to Vegas.

    • Franklin Ramsey

      So, you are on T-mobile? Or Sprint?

    • Braden Abbott

      I’m in a tiny podunk town in Utah of all places and all four carriers have us drenched in LTE. Big red and big blue have got to be nearly done so I feel bad for your little town haha

  • Adrynalyne

    Now if we could just get some software that can truly utilize this power…

  • Ben Murphy

    Move over 805, we barely knew you…

    • Franklin Ramsey

      Technically, we haven’t known it. It isn’t even out in any device!

  • Godzilla

    I was not sure about this new MOTO appraoch but I am starting to think that processor wise we have gotten to the point where software optimization is the most important thing. That and RAM

    • reyalP

      Agreed! Just like PC’s there is no real benefit to having such a fast processor if the program isn’t optimized for it. Other than synthetic benchmarks what does a phone do that truly requires a blazing fast processor?

      • Godzilla

        I think phones should have top specs so they are CAPABLE of doing great things. But the moto x has shown us that optimization is key as well.

    • Mike H.

      Agreed and the fact that a 2k or 4k display phone would run $1200 plus lol.