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HTC Says Galaxy S5 Owners Will Have Buyer’s Remorse on March 25, Which Makes No Sense

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Leave it to HTC to take the first shot following Samsung’s unveiling of the Galaxy S5. Through their official Twitter account, HTC made the bold claim that Galaxy S5 owners will soon experience buyer’s remorse come March 25, when the new One is announced.

While we love the competitive nature and fighting spirit of HTC, they should at least get all of the facts straight before going after the competition. The Galaxy S5 doesn’t go on sale until April, so no one will own the device by March 25. In other words, they can’t possibly have buyer’s remorse.

Silly.

Update:  Apparently, HTC sent their Tweet before Samsung announced a release date, not following the announcement as I suggested. Either way, the Tweet is wrong and and looks semi-ridiculous. See you on March 25, HTC!  

Via:  @HTC
  • Thac

    AT&T are offering them now.

  • Anthony Johnson

    How dare they think to challenge the leader in Smartphone
    world which recently launched their Galaxy S5 device? Just tell them to have
    full information before tweeting!

  • casualsuede

    Their lousy adverising with rdj and dancing trolls obviously didn’t work. Maybe free snarky pettiness will.

  • 15kramsmada15

    I think HTC was talking about people who pre-order the Galaxy S5 will have buyer’s remorse, and that they’ll regret that decision on March 25, because HTC is going to unveil the M8 on that day. At least HTC knows how to make good looking phones, right?

  • anonymous

    Don’t try to change what HTC trying to tell us Kay?

  • bucks

    Eehh… ever heard of pre-orders?

  • slainte

    Had the Incredible and Thunderbolt, as well as an old Omnia (Win phone) and an S3…so, some regret in my past. My LG G2 is the best of the bunch (I know, that is easy to say since it’s the newest). I did like my S3, but the radio’s were awful. Thunderbolt was an experiment for HTC, unfortunately I was their test rat.

  • paul cook

    It’s true all of us Samsung fans hate this s5 and are waiting for m8 to see what it has to offer

  • dk1golf

    I own an htc one and a moto x. I bought the moto x for the wife who had an iPhone 5. I bought it based on reviews here on droid-life and my bias towards Android. It took awhile – but, the moto x converted the wife. For me, I bought the htc one simply on pictures and the commensurate build reviews. The htc one, in my opinion is stellar, and I’m not sure why people seem to bash the company, or the device.

  • Trevor

    Kinda makes you feel a little bit bad for HTC.

  • chris125

    ah HTC, I guess if you can’t beat them, put your foot in your mouth trying to post a witty jab at the leader. And the s5 will still blow the new htc one out of the water in terms of sales.

    • Chris

      of course.

      Only way it wont is if by some mericle HTC steps up their marketing this year but we know they wont.

  • This tweet pretty much sums up HTC’s business and market position in general. Hapless and poorly timed.

  • M3D1T8R

    Looks at his DNA… Yep, still awesome.
    Looks at S5 abomination.
    Yes, HTC, can’t wait to see the new One.

  • RaptorOO7

    So they jumped the gun, no biggie and I suspect more than a few here have done the same thing. Still their Social media guru’s need to do a better job. Now if the HTC One 2014 has microSD and a bigger batter then I could be swayed.

  • droidbeat

    “One up” is just cool!

  • LionStone

    Update: Really? How can a tweeted statement be “wrong” and “ridiculous”?:
    “Buyers remorse:
    Coming soon to S5
    owners.”
    With the date ‘March 25’, detached from this statement, means you probably shouldn’t put them together, as you did in the article.

    It means: Don’t know when, but there’s a new phone coming soon called the S5, we have something better to announce on March 25. Reading anything more beyond that is taking it out of context.

    • Justen DeBowles

      nah…. This is clearly a blunder by HTC. No one will have buyers remorse on march 25th because buyers remorse implies that you have ownership of something and you now see something else that you want instead. on march 25th no one will have an S5. Preorders don’t count because you can just cancel them and get the HTC OneTWO, so there couldn’t be remorse. Together or apart… it doesn’t make sense. HTC dun goofed.

      • LionStone

        It’s only a blunder by those looking too far into it.

  • OF

    I really like droid-life but damn man, you guys have this thing out for HTC! Every article has some sort of quip or smart-ass remark towards them. What’s the deal? Let’s try not to be so biased.

  • fartbubbler

    hey, HTC, I got your Thunderbolt right here.

  • Alex Thomson

    Pre-order remorse? A seed planted by Samsung? What ever they meant I can’t wait to see what they bring to the table March 25th!

  • Preach2k

    Regret buying the Blunderbolt!!! HTC will be sold by the end of 2014 or go out of business. The only company that can give Samsung competition is LG in my opinion.

  • LionStone

    Kellex is sensationalizing it and was actually inaccurate himself stating,

    “HTC made the bold claim that Galaxy S5 owners will soon experience buyer’s remorse come March 25, when the new One is announced.”

    HTC never said that, that’s just what he’s reading into it. More accurate reporting please!

  • Nick Sherrill

    This tweet was published 27 minutes before Samsung announced their availability date.

  • chris_johns

    I have to disagree with you here. It says “Buyer’s remorse: coming soon to s5 owners(PERIOD)”, then it says march 25 off to the side….could simply mean in they will have buyers remorse soon…and thena small reminder that their release is march 25…..actually it doesnt make sense at all…im just trying to defend them here…and honestly I dont know why

  • Bobby Cornwell

    fail.

    • LionStone

      Yep, this article is a fail, I agree.

  • JRomeo

    If the Galaxy S5, and the HTC New One, have google play store variants…. that is the only way I will consider either one of those.

  • onlygoodtime88

    it does make sense what HTC is saying you will have remorse on march 25
    when they unveil there phone that it will stop you from buying the s5.
    This event should have been called ” Pack and go home by 5″, not
    “Unpacked 5”.

  • Anthony Tyson

    Sad fail is sad

  • 213ninja

    Not that this is a huge deal but HTC is their own worst enemy. Maybe they should try to steal some folks from the Samsung marketing department….?

  • Dave

    Samsung should send back a bar graph with the bars shaped like wangs, with device sales listed, representing how long the bar is.

    • LionStone

      huh?

      • Dave

        An insinuation that their device sales should be enough ammo to end the pissing contest.

  • trwb

    Cool multi-window bro

  • onlygoodtime88

    it does make sense what HTC is saying you will have remorse on march 25 when they unveil there phone that it will stop you from buying the s5. This event should have been called ” Pack and go home by 5″, not “Unpacked 5”.

    • LionStone

      Exactly!! Kellex is sensationalizing it and was actually inaccurate himself stating,

      “HTC made the bold claim that Galaxy S5 owners will soon experience buyer’s remorse come March 25, when the new One is announced.”

      HTC never said that, that’s just what he’s reading into it.

      • Justen DeBowles

        yOu two are reaching. far…

        Buyers remorse means they’ve actually BOUGHT the phone. on march 25th people will have neither the htc or samsung flagship…lol. Their tweet doesn’t make any sense at all.

        • LionStone

          hellooo…”remorse. COMING SOON…” Reading waay too much into it. As the Update states, HTC didn’t know of a release date when they tweeted that so it’s clear it doesn’t matter timing wise, it is known the S5 is coming, well HTC has something too, that’s all. But please go ahead and pick it apart.

  • Al-Burrit0

    Sees The Narrator, Tim242, and Chris comments…
    *grabs popcorn*

  • JeremyAn2

    Thunderbolt burned me, but I gave HTC a second chance with the Droid DNA. Never again. Regarding the ad, I think the “buyer’s remorse” quip was a generic pot shot, not meant to be time accurate. Notice the March 25th is sort of off to lower right…

    • Chris

      Well you had Verizon so…

      • JeremyAn2

        Fortunately, I’m in NY, relatively close to a Verizon corporate store. No service complaints on my end :-/

    • M3D1T8R

      What issues have you had with your DNA? I’ve been more than happy with mine, which I’ve had since last June. Even the battery life has been pretty good despite the lowly 2020mAh. It’s been out 15 months and I still don’t see a better phone option on Verizon. Looking forward to seeing what the new One has to offer.

      • aQuickBit

        I never had a DNA and I still think it’s a great phone.

      • JeremyAn2

        You should play the lottery- because to be in possession of a fully functioning DNA is amazing. To be fair, one could chalk up the majority of my gripes to early adopter hiccups, but then again, my replacement DNA experienced the same overheating and OS lag as its predecessor. A quick Google through DNA forums will produce countless threads discussing the same issues. The DNA had a lot to live up to being the first 1080p phone on Verizon, and while the display was truly a sight to see, the rest of the phone lacked the type of refinement one looks for in the latest smartphone. It felt a lot like the Thunderbolt- a product rushed to market with the trivial goal of being first to flaunt new tech.

  • buckley101

    This is the official petition to ban Arty McBert.

    Reason: Having an authoritative looking icon leading people to believe what he says is accurate. Arty McBert thinks he knows everything when in fact he is wrong about everything. He is an embarrassment to this blog, the Android community, and the human race.

  • Dave

    Samsung probably feels like a dog just took a dump in a their 600 acre field….they really don’t care.

  • gintoddic

    oh you silly marketing interns

  • common sense ftw!

    • Chris

      That died a long time ago when Bush came in to office..

  • ChristianPasquariello

    Are we to assume it will be on sale the 25th or later given Samsung’s announcement that April is the date for sale?

  • Chris

    mmmm

  • sr_erick

    Neither of these two companies are really impressing me with their new offerings so far. Moto, LG, and Sony seem to be doing a better job in my book. I just wish there were some good Sony offerings available to VZW customers.

  • hebrewHAMMER

    Somebody forgot to send me an invitation to the Tim242 troll party.

  • Steve B

    HTC just got burned…by themselves.

  • Armus

    I’m with most folks on here in that the S5 is a joke update. I’ll sick with my Note3 which is way better. No one needs a fingerprint scanner!

    • Tim242

      Are you on drugs? If you have a Note 3, why would you be interested in an S5? Just wait… your Note 4 upgrade is just 6 months away.

      • Armus

        You must not be able to read through an Autocorrect Error. I said I’d stick with my Note3 because it is obviously better.

        • Tim242

          I got what you said. You must have had trouble comprehending what I said. I’m saying that it makes no sense why you would even consider an S5 in the first place. You are stating that you are keeping the Note 3 because it’s better. People with Note 3’s probably aren’t S5 buyers anyway…

          • onlygoodtime88

            it does make sense what HTC is saying you will have remorse on march 25
            when they unveil there phone that it will stop you from buying the s5.
            This event should have been called ” Pack and go home by 5″, not
            “Unpacked 5”.

          • Tim242

            No, it does not make sense. You can only have buyer’s remorse after you have bought something. SMH

  • rotard777

    they updated it stating,
    Hear it, see it, feel it or along those lines. could it be release on the 25th too?

  • BananaBob

    Its Called Pre-orders people. I’m sure people will be buying the S5 in mid March, but just wont physically have until April 11th

    • Justen DeBowles

      nah… this is just another HTC blunder…

      • BananaBob

        Purchases can be be returned as well. They had to put out something quickly, and tho it may not be perfect, I just think everyone’s reaction to it is alil overboard.

      • paul cook

        They said it to tell people don’t buy a new phone until you what we have to offer

    • Kellexdoesntmakesense

      Technically speaking if you pre-ordered a product, you automatically becomes a buyer of it. Go back to school Kellex

  • Al-Burrit0

    Okay HTC you roughly have a month to decide on what to do with the meaningless black bar and to come up with a new name.

    • Chris

      wouldnt surprise me if thats what they are doing and why they choose to wait a month instead of announcing it today

  • WK

    they probably meant pre-ordering remorse.

  • Carl W.
    • Silver Veloz

      LOL – Love LaTrice Royal.

  • Orion

    I’m no Samsung fan but HTC really needs to stop embarrassing themselves. Oh don’t worry HTC, I wont purchase the GS5 or your bezel happy M8. Thanks.

    • Chris

      no one cares

      • Orion

        Obviously you do. Don’t be butthurt sheep.

  • Tony Byatt

    Samsung and HTC…

    Finding new ways to embarrass themselves each day…

    Time for LG and Sony to shine…

    smh…

    • Tim242

      Sony has huge bezels, LG has glossy plastic and poisonous lead cables.

      • The Narrator

        Sony makes up for it with useful features. Big Battery, waterproof, premium feeling, glass, way better camera, sure I love my G2, but I’ll be dropping for the Z2 until the G3

      • Nate Loos

        >Huge bezels and glossy plastic
        Sounds like you just described Samsung, sorry to say. They’ve had the glossy plastic for YEARS.

        • Tim242

          Samsung has had small bezels for years. They started that trend. They have moved sway from glossy plastic. LG is still proudly sporting it.

          • Nate Loos

            As far as glossy plastic goes, they were into it for the longest time, and even then you praised them, ignoring that fact. Now that they’re into faux leather, you shun glossy plastic as if it were the devil. And small bezels? LG has made leaps and bounds in that field, dwarfing Samsung. As for Sony’s bezels, at least they have a reason: water resistance. The S4 Active had relatively large bezels, and was water resistant. In all honesty, I wish there was a phone with Motorola’s software, HTC’s build quality and screens, Samsung’s internal components, LG’s battery life, and Nokia’s camera. I would pay $400 ON CONTRACT for something like this.

          • Tim242

            I don’t mind glossy plastic. I was merely pointing out to the LG fanboys that LG uses it as well. What Samsung is using now is not faux leather. People only said that because of the stitching on the Note 3. They have evolved it even more on the S5…it is just a soft touch plastic. Everybody that has touched it is comparing it to the Nexus 7. That is not faux leather. In case you missed it, the S5 is also water resistant. That’s why the bezels are slightly larger than the S4. Your idea of the perfect phone sounds good, except for HTC’s display. I can’t stand grey blacks.

          • Nate Loos

            My main gripe with most Samsung phones is the intense amount of bloatware on them. Many tell me that I can just root/BL unlock and install a rom, but I don’t feel like voiding my warranty. Also, I’ve always loved HTCs displays. They look so sharp and crisp. Samsung’s have always been disappointing in my opinion: the pentile display and over-saturated colors just don’t appeal to me whatsoever. Hopefully a non-pentile AMOLED display comes out soon, I want active display with a true resolution dammit!

          • Tim242

            As far as bloat, a lot of it can be disabled. It looks like they have dialed it down with the S5….hopefully so. I don’t like over saturated colors either. Luckily, Sammy lets you change that. See screenshot below. Pentile on a 1080p display is a non issue. The Note 3 has the best display on the market. Before that, it was the GS4. That was cited by Anandtech in their display comparisons.

          • ChristianPasquariello

            8gigs on a 16gig phone isn’t bad.

    • Sean Walton

      More like time for Motorola to shine. Come on Moto X2!

      • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

        It’s over.

        • Sean Walton

          It’s not over until the fat lady sings my friend. I hope she doesn’t sing for a long time. Motorola is # 1 in my eye’s but with Lenovo taking over that might change. Time will tell.

  • Intellectua1

    I want to see what HTC has in store. But for right now I’m going to say Shut up HTC you’re drunk…

  • David Foggia

    No but htc isnt stupid. The new one will be released after the s5

    • Tim242

      But their claim is that come March 25, there will be buyer’s remorse.

      • Ray Murphy

        ..because 100,000s of pre orders will have taken place by then, FFS phones4u already have it on their site – to register interest !!

        • Chris

          I dobut the average joe even knows of the S5 yet…..

  • h_f_m

    Pre-ordering?

  • Arty McBert

    I’m rooting for HTC. I truly hope they will succeed this time, any fan of Android should. The sooner Samsung no longer has a deathgrip on a majority of Android device sales, the better.

    • Tim242

      HTC isn’t the one, pun intended. Their new logo bar shows how clueless they are.

      • p4

        unless that space is used to pack more battery love .. then by all means, add 2 logo bars

        • Tim242

          That space could be better used as screen space

          • p4

            maybe .. but then ur not 1080p, and some funky rez .. who knows, maybe they had no choice without trimming battery size .. or maybe they just really love their logo 🙂

        • Cael

          HTC doesn’t know how to add a bigger battery without making a brick. The tallness of it will never be due to a battery.

      • Chris

        We can only wait and see before crying…

    • Cael

      HTC’s problem is that they always wait too long to learn.

  • MrBouche

    Looks at his Rezound…
    Looks at Ad.

    Yes, HTC… Let’s talk about regret.

    • JoshGroff

      Ouch, they’re gonna need some ice for that burn. Good thing the Rezound had a pretty decent dev community.

      • Chris

        my rezound wasn’t bad. Its mostly Verizons falut but as usual people love to blame the manfactuer.

        • MrBouche

          Mine got so bad, so very bad. I can’t wait to get a new phone. I have a friend that has a One and loves it. A lot of people like their latest efforts and I’m very happy others are having a better experience than I had. This is my second, the first was rooted and had the same issues as the non rooted phone… Yesterday, the day my contract was up, the phone refused to place calls or show it was connected to the network for 3/4 of the day. I just need a new experience. I don’t just blame them though but they pretty much shrugged and said “meh, f–k it” after the last update. They’re in a time out. 😉

        • Cael

          I went through 3 Rezounds. The charging port kept messing up and that battery life? Completely ruined a good phone. And it only got ICS. Complete bull.

          • MrBouche

            I should have been on a third, honestly. I had the service and plans to do it but i wasn’t expecting the situation to improve. I have an extended battery for it and it helped some… this phone sucked batteries faster than a thirsty kid with a juice box.

    • Chris

      HTC has come a long way.

      • Cael

        All HTC really had to do was fix the stuff they effed up on. They could have did that fast.

    • DJyoSNOW

      Looks at Droid Charge…

      Yes, SAMSUNG….Let’s talk about regret (& omni I owned)

      • jamdev12

        Droid Charge? Ouch!!!

      • 4g63mark

        I actually enjoyed my Droid Charge. When I think of phones that are as good as it gets ergonomically, I remember my Charge. I don’t miss 512mb of RAM though. It had the best 800 X 480 display to ever grace any smartphone. Plus it was the first Android phone to record in 720p HD. It also performed REALLY well with the Gummy ROM.

        • DJyoSNOW

          I had to go through 5 replacements till I got a stable version. So guess you got lucky.

          • 4g63mark

            I guess it’s possible. However I have always had good luck when relying on the development community. If I relied on just the manufacturer I would’ve had MANY bad experiences with many different phones…….. From my experience, the worst devices were consistently HTC’s. Sense UI has always been bad. But now I won’t even buy an HTC unless it’s used with an AOSP based vanilla style ROM. I just can’t tolerate paying that much for their phones, only to spend a bunch of time fixing it the way it should’ve been to begin with.

          • 4g63mark

            Plus I’ve gone through 4 Droid Mini’s so far, but it’s still a way better phone than anything from Samsung or HTC.

      • H.R. Pierson

        I have a LOT to say. Won’t’ cause its in the past. Samsung should really keep their eyes on Customer Support though. Funky ” I don’t care” attitudes as in the past can and will ruin you.
        Samsung is the sworn enemy of my sworn enemies ( Apple and Microsoft ) both of whom screwed my former employer XEROX.
        My present phone though is the LG G Pro
        Awesome display. Fast. Stays out of my way. Let’s me work.

    • Gideon Waxfarb

      LOL, I’m expecting another shiny fashion accessory from HTC this year.

    • Kevin
  • yaooitsbrett

    Uh… They’re saying the announcement of the M8 is going to make people wanting the S5 not even get the phone. Duh

    • Tim242

      You apparently don’t know the definition of buyer’s remorse. Hint: You have to have bought something, to be remorseful about buying it. Do better

  • David Foggia

    HTC better put something relatively cool on their phone like a finger print sensor. I need to be able to show off a feature non-techy to my friends.

  • Justtyn Hutcheson

    I’m hoping that they are talking about pre-orders, which are probably going to start well before their press conference on 3/25.

    HTC, I’m reaching out there for ya. But da fuq dude, you smokin some good stuff.

    • Tim242

      There wont be any preorders for an unannounced device. Are you smoking some of that good stuff?

      • Justtyn Hutcheson

        Pre-orders for the GS5 made by 3/25, who will see the New One and go “curses!”.

        Sorry, reading again I see how ambiguous that statement is >.<

        • Tim242

          Ahhh, that makes more sense hahs

    • Justen DeBowles

      It still doesn’t make sense at all… because if it’s a preorder you can just cancel it and pre order the HTC. Buyers remorse means that you can’t go back… which is what makes you feel the remorse in the first place…

  • JBartcaps

    I’m already having buyer’s remorse with the All New HTC One that I buying in the future, o wait

  • joseph barrientos

    speaking of things that don’t make sense, THE TITLE, i’m a long fan but I’m sad to see you guys pointing something out about HTC when your own title is incorrect. It’s not possible to make NO sense, it’s possible to not many any sense tho.

    • Chris

      Its ok. They are too busy drooling over the moto x

      • JBartcaps

        oh stahpp

    • Ben Murphy

      Many any sense? Because that made sense.

      • Angel Roldan

        Exactly… lol

    • Tim242

      Ummm you seem uh, confused. It makes no sense. That doesn’t make any sense. Both of those are correct. Any would only be used to avoid s double negative.

  • DJyoSNOW

    Well my current phine be is an HTC and between the lack of screen size and not that impressive battery..min the past multiple times I’ve had nothing but troubles with my Samsung devices and never HTC I still have my orig. Incredible up and running not my charge pooped out like none other

  • jeradc

    Pre-order.

  • EricMayBell

    Preorders maybe? I am disappointed with what the S5 has to offer

  • MichaelFranz

    Unless they pre-order…..but yea…silly HTC

  • HTC makes no Sense. Sense dosnt even make sense

    • you make no sense

    • Chris

      Makes more sense then a wiz that you touch….

    • h_f_m

      I was Sent to the store to get Sense, but I spent all my Cents on a cheesesteak that had nice Scents.. SENSational SENSory overload!

    • onlygoodtime88

      it does make sense what HTC is saying you will have remorse on march 25
      when they unveil there phone that it will stop you from buying the s5.
      This event should have been called ” Pack and go home by 5″, not
      “Unpacked 5”..

  • Mackster248

    Eh, who cares. We all know what HTC was trying to infer either way.

    • Chris

      You cared enough to make a comment..

      • Albert

        Get outta here….

      • hero

        oooooo you got him good. teach him to make a stupid comment like that again!

  • Chris

    The only way this makes sense is if the HTC M8 goes on sale in May, but hopefully (and more smart on their part) it goes on sale right away, if not a week or so later.

    • Intellectua1

      I say if they feel that way they should go heads up and release on the same day as the S5

  • Chris

    oh HTC….. if you can get your marketing team on board like the update team does that would be great.

  • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

    Smh HTC….Pay attention!

    • Al-Burrit0

      On the previous article I commented “HTC YOUR MOVE”, SMH this is not what I meant!

    • The Narrator

      If they have 3gb ram, they already beat the S5

      • Chris

        I dobut they will, but it would be nice if the shock us all. (as well as shock us by getting rid of that ugly bezzel and glossy back)

      • Arty McBert

        3GBs of RAM isn’t necessary, just tell OEMs to stick with stock KitKat and take out all the bloatware. It’s a phone, you don’t use it to edit videos and browse the web at the same time.

        • The Narrator

          It’s called future proofing it kind of. Who knows what 4.5/5.0 brings

          • Arty McBert

            Android 4.5 could very well use even less resources and have a smaller footprint, although nothing is guaranteed. I have a 1GB RAM device (Razr HD) and it still runs just as well with 4.4, even when the standard is now 2GBs.

          • The Narrator

            Point is, they are a step behind. More ram the better. No matter what. My opinion, ymmv

          • Arty McBert

            That’s your opinion, and I respect it. Although for me personally, I’d rather want Android to be smaller and use less resources so that I wouldn’t need that much RAM.

          • Chris

            Root or buy a nexus/GPE.

            or start your own OEM and run stock so all your nerd friends can get all excited over it in your parents basement.

          • Tim242

            You obviously know nothing about RAM.

          • bkosh84

            Why would they “Future Proof” a phone that is on a yearly cycle?

          • Chris

            This years phones will be ready for them

        • TSY87

          samsung needs to understand this… the note 3 has amazing specs but only runs “decent” imagine if it didnt have all that bloatware!

          • buckley101

            You are stupid. Leave this blog. Bloatware has NOTHING to do with how a phone is running. It’s just sitting there taking up space. That’s all. No more, no less.

          • TSY87

            wow, chill out man. Maybe bloatware isnt the right term… but my s4 and note 3 both have tons of garbage apps that are on to power their gimmicky features that definitely are taxing the hardware. Get rid of the gimmicks and give us a solid phone.

          • buckley101

            Bloatware definitely isn’t the right term, everyone is confused.

          • Chris Hannan

            Bloatware definitely is the right term.

            The term “bloatware” may be applied to software that has become bloated through inefficiency or accretion of features as outlined above. Confusingly, the same term bloatware is also commonly used to refer to preinstalled software on a device, usually included by the hardware manufacturer, that is mostly unwanted by the purchaser.

            TouchWiz is bloatware.

          • You’re abusive, rude, and provably wrong. If bloatware didn’t affect how a system ran, it wouldn’t be as hated as it is. We have to scrape it off of computer constantly specifically BECAUSE it affects how they run. Same with phones. You think those apps don’t run in the background? I guess you’ve never bothered to actually see what’s running in the background on a smartphone with bloatware on it that you never opened. Try taking a stock carrier phone and checking the running processes. Remember that NFL Mobile you brought up for no reason earlier? You’ll find it running. Why? I have no F-ing idea, but on multiple phones in the past I’ve found it running when I’ve never opened it because I have no interest in sports. Same goes for a dozen other preloaded apps, almost all of which were made by Samsung, that I will never use. You truly don’t know what you’re talking about, and yet you’re insulting OTHERS over your perception of THEIR ignorance. Chill out.

          • nosedive94

            I disabled a ton of apps on my Note 3 (pretty much everything beginning with “S”), and I replaced the TouchWiz homescreen with Nova. After that, it was lightning fast. If I get the S5, rest assured I will be rooting it as soon as a PAD ROM is available. But honestly I’m thinking this is the year I jump ship for HTC.

        • JBartcaps

          If you were an OEM and every other OEM were only using stock Android, would also use stock Android?

          • Arty McBert

            Why not? If you want your device to stick out, there are other ways of doing that instead of putting skins and useless apps, and Motorola is the only OEM who showed us how (i.e. the Moto X).

          • Chris

            and yet how well did it sell?

          • Adrynalyne

            That had more to do with (lack of) marketing, limited launch and high price in the beginning.

        • buckley101

          Bloatware isn’t taking up any space in RAM. It’s just sitting in your memory, not RAM, doing nothing.

          • Arty McBert

            They do when they run in the background.

          • buckley101

            Huh? Then don’t click on them? That is your problem if your bloatware is running in the background of your phone. Do you understand how computers work?

          • Ian

            Do YOU understand how computers work? Many ‘bloatware’ apps have processes that start on boot and are therefore running on the device without a user clicking on the icon. Now if you were to disable the ‘bloatware’, then we could talk. Then why bother have it occupying space if its only ever going to be disabled and not used?

          • No, I think you’re the one confused. You do understand the concept of startup processes, don’t you? That the device can load things on startup into memory, whether you like it or not, without you ever having clicked on it? And that Samsung devices do, in fact, do this with a MASSIVE amount of Touchwiz stuff in order to make it all instantly available, or track your usage, or tie into other functions? Do YOU understand how computers work?

          • buckley101

            You guys are soooo wrong.

            1) Do you really think Samsung has bloatware like “NFL Moble” booting up on start?!
            2) Touchwiz shtuffs isn’t considered bloatware. It’s just a heavy UI with gimmicky features. Bloatware are apps that companies paid to have them preinstalled on your phone.
            3) Samsung generally doesn’t manage what applications are booted up when your phone starts. Android does that.

            I think this is coming down to a misconfusion on what the term “bloatware” is.

          • 1)Who said anything about NFL Mobile?
            2)What YOU consider “bloatware” isn’t relevant to what many of us DO consider bloatware. S-this, S-that, S-up, S-down; that’s what a ton of people consider bloatware because it’s NOT vital to the operation of the system. When I buy a brand new HP computer and it’s loaded with HP PhotoSmart this, and HP WebLife that, and so on and so forth, that is ALL bloatware. Doesn’t matter whether it was made by the manufacturer or not, it’s unnecessary additions to Windows that take up space and resources. Absolutely, positively bloatware. Same goes for all of Samsung’s additions.
            3)Uh, yes, Samsung very much DOES manage what applications are booted up when your phone starts. They actively TELL the OS what apps they want to start on startup, and the OS then does so. Samsung has heavy control over that, and they take it.

            I’m an IT administrator. I know what bloatware is. You’ve decided to narrowly reduce it to something much smaller than reality. Doesn’t mean I have to live by your narrow definition.

        • Chris

          LOL

          Good luck with that. Nerds only want stock. The average joe IS android now.

        • Intellectua1

          So your brilliant idea is to make every phone stock Android?? Then all the phones will be the same and there would be no competition

        • malcmilli

          tell that to the note 12 pro that apparently struggles when too many multi-view windows are open.

      • Tim242

        My boyfriend has a Note 3. Only .8-1.4 GB of RAM are ever in use at any given time. Unused RAM is wasted RAM.

        • Chris

          its there when you do need it…..

          Silly people…

          • Tim242

            You are missing the point. There is never a time when that much RAM is needed on a mobile device. There’s only so much you can do at once.

          • KingofPing

            No-one here plays newer games on their devices??

          • buckley101

            Unused RAM is still on a clock. It uses power even when not in use. Also, as he said, “only 0.8 – 1.4 GB of RAM are ever in use AT ANY GIVEN MOMENT”

            HERP DERP

            But sure, if you want to use all 3GB of RAM then go for it. If you’re actually running THAT MANY APPLICATIONS in the background then your processor is going to need a fan. Aka it’s going to be using an unnecessarily large amount of power.

          • Adrynalyne

            Unused ram uses as much power as used ram….

        • The Narrator

          Lol he must never use the phone then. I’m always maxing out ram with Chrome, facebook, news, games, I would love to never worry about closing applications

          • Tim242

            He plays games, surfs, uses multiwindow, all while tethering to ChromCast to watch Netflix. It never skips a beat. BTW, the system closes unused apps as necessary. You are doing it wrong.

        • TylerChappell

          Boyfriend? Well feck. there goes my chances.

          • Tim242

            You live so far away : ( Maybe you can be my future husband, or FWB haha

          • TylerChappell

            I am fine with either of those options, add meh on teh Fayzbuks

          • TylerChappell

            You know…I always make sure I have plenty of FWB, so adding 1 more to the list certainly won’t hurt anything. ;]

          • Silver Veloz

            Yes. Tim242 surprised us with that one.

        • beng8686

          Future versions of android may require more RAM? It’s always good to look ahead and not look at how its preforming now. Just my Thoughts…

          • Tim242

            KK requires only 512 MB of RAM. I highly doubt that future versions will more than quadruple that requirement. ..definitely not in the next 2 years.

        • Tim Aries

          So it turns out you’re a chick? Damn I can no longer call you a Samesung fan’boy’ anymore, what a pity LOL

          • Tim242

            Not a chick.

      • Cael

        Its gonna have 2…

      • jbannach

        Problem with 3GB RAM is it is uses more battery life. I rather have better battery life than more RAM to run TouchWiz or to future proof.

      • angrymancuzsamsungscreweditup

        actually if they don’t have dimples on their phone. they win my money. Those dimples look great on walmarts pre-paid phone aisle. just not as great in my pocket.

    • Miguel

      Unless they’re saying,
      “those that pre-order will feel sorry”

    • LionStone

      Soo what? You get the point right!?

      • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

        What point? They don’t have a point. Release date is April and there is Zero news on pre-orders.

        • Miguel

          Not right now but they know that before they announced theirs Sammy is going to have the S5 for pre-orders most likely.

          • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

            You can’t run a marketing campaign based of random assumptions.

          • Miguel

            I know but I’m basing my argument on Sammy’s track record.

          • KingofPing

            “You can’t run a marketing campaign based of random assumptions.”

            Obviously, you can. Whether or not it is successful is another thing entirely. 😛