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T-Mobile Praises AT&T For Dismantling the Death Star and Leaving the Dark Side in Newest Press Release

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T-Mobile is at it again this afternoon, releasing a press release just hours after an earnings call from AT&T, celebrating the carrier for leaving “the Dark Side.” What makes the release even funnier is that T-Mo had the cojones to use fake quotes for AT&T’s own Ralph de la Vega, implying that he has somehow seen the light and decided to put the customer first for a change. 

Here is an excerpt from the release with the fake quote from de la Vega that T-Mobile used so humorously.

“Call it an awakening,” said Ralph de la Vega, president and CEO of AT&T Mobility, “but I felt it was time to really stir things up and put the customer first for a change.  And by “customer” I’m referring to our former customers who switch to T-Mobile, because our current customers don’t really qualify.”  De la Vega said that the new T-Mobile switching offer was custom designed to entice its millions of contract customers to go ahead and give T-Mobile a try. “If for any reason you don’t love T-Mobile’s 4G LTE network, which is now faster than ours, we’ll actually pay you up to $450 to come back to AT&T, I kid you not.”

After the quote, the press release continues on with, “Ok, De La Vega didn’t actually say that, but he might as well have.” and thankfully, at the very end of the release it clearly states, “The preceding mock press release was written with tongue firmly planted in cheek.” T-Mobile’s CEO, John Legere loves these types of campaigns, because it gets the public talking. He is a firm believer in the any press is good press attitude.

Following the fake quote, the press release uses a real quote from T-Mo’s CEO, acting as if he can’t believe that AT&T is doing the right thing, actually helping its customers.

It’s kind of like that scene where Darth Vader’s lying there and Luke helps take off his helmet and you see that, okay, sure, Darth Vader’s pretty ugly, but he’s human after all.

You have to give props to Legere for referencing so much Star Wars in a single press release.

And for those that say this may be too far, T-Mobile has every right to go to such lengths. With AT&T paying up $450 to T-Mo customers for making a switch, they are essentially allowing current AT&T customers a chance to try out the UnCarrier network risk free.

Thanks to AT&T’s apparent change-of-heart and incredibly generous $450 T-Mobile customer buy-back campaign, insane numbers of its very own customers and even families of AT&T employees are enjoying a risk-free, zero-cost opportunity to switch to the Un-carrier. If customers making the switch are not satisfied with T-Mobile and its state-of-the-art nationwide 4G LTE network (now fastest in the U.S.), AT&T will cover the costs for customers switching back to their own slower network, up to $450 with trade-in.

You can rest assured that T-Mobile and AT&T are nowhere near done with these types of jabs, so 2014 is looking like a good year for the consumers.

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Via: T-Mobile
  • Bruce Wayne

    I will be switching just for his trolling. I love this guy

  • socalrailroader

    Test drive an EDGE network? No thanks T-Mobile.

  • Adam Truelove

    “When you’re good at something, you’ll tell everyone. When you’re great at something, they’ll tell you.” – Walter Payton

    I feel like T-mobile is the former. They just can’t stop talking about themselves can they?

  • mcdonsco

    I wonder why they exclusively pick on at&t and not verizon?

    I wish they would pick on verizon.

    • crazed_z06

      Because it’d be like Kia picking on BMW?

  • Nathaniel Webb

    Recently switched to T-Mobile. Their LTE is faster than AT&T, but going down I-40 i get “G” (1G) in the status bar. However, i can make calls and texts, and maybe having that disconnect sometimes is a healthy thing. Oh, and it saved me $70/mo for my family, which we use to go on family movie nights, so it’s entirely worth it. All about perspective i guess.

  • d-rock

    I just wish John Legere (the real one) would address their lack of coverage and if they plan on expanding beyond their current HSPA/LTE combined coverage. If all they care about is LTE replacing HSPA, they won’t ever push beyond AT&T or Verizon.

  • Larry E

    TMobile doesn’t have the coverage of AT&T, but my phone is not my child. I don’t keep it by my side all day, every day. If I lose coverage here and there, no big deal. Unlike AT&T, I always have coverage at my house b/c of WIFI calling.

    I’m just glad to see a company that is making a few changes in favor of the customer for once.

    • Adam Truelove

      You don’t carry your phone with you? What’s the point of having a mobile phone if you don’t take it with you?

  • David Narada Brown

    go t mobile

  • bizaro57

    It seems like sometimes when people sign a contract with or buy into a brand they see news like this and its suddenly personal. I get the whole comment bashing, when I was a kid my Super Nintendo was SO much better than Sega Genesis….woah actually sonic is pretty cool. I think T-Mobile is making some headway its just like early adopters to a new product (its not new but follow along) making waves is apparently working for them, its obviously ruffling feathers (att) and getting media attention. That’s how they make cash which can convert into upgrading their network which will gain customers rinse repeat. Their service isn’t stellar for everyone, but not everyone is the same. Some people don’t travel out of the area that works, some people don’t need their phone if they are out of service for short periods of time. Others need coverage for travel, others aren’t in a viable service area for that carrier. Its all about what works for you and this is working for them.

  • James Vincent

    It’s so funny. Love what John Legere is doing. Such a mud fight going on here over there in the U.S!

  • Guest

    T mobile: Do more.

  • RichieC

    T-Mobile is garbage once you enter any structure. Malls, hospitals, doctor’s offices, schools, catering halls, diners, restaurants, even my barber shop. I don’t get how T-Mobile can gloat so much. Yes there 4G lte is blasing in the parking lot but once you walk in to a Walmart and data is on edge which us useless then try to call your spouse to find out what isle they’re in and have no service it is useless. You get what you pay for. I have AT&T and I never even seen it drop to Edge have crystal clear calls that never drop.Oh one more thing. Try receiving an MMS pic on a T-Mobile phone from any other carrier besides T-Mobile..if you’re lucky you might get 1 out of 10 12 hours later. John before you talk smack have you service respectable. You say by late 2014 these issues will be fixed, Rome wasn’t created in a day. Well until then stop leading people on. It’s gonna bite you in the ass when people get disgusted and sell their phone on eBay after a few months pay off what they owe you then go back to Verizon or AT&T. You will be bankrupt once the well runs dry from the failed AT&T merger.

    • John Davids

      You do, in fact, realize that you aren’t speaking to the real John Legere, right?

      • RichieC

        Who cares. He’s so arrogant and high on himself I’m sure he reads all these threads

        • John Legere

          Get some sleep. You too mad right now.

        • John Davids

          Perhaps you have the shoes flipped on who is being presumptuous here.

          • RichieC

            I don’t even know what that means. I’m just giving my input in my areas in major cities

    • Ryan

      I’m not sure what’s going on there, but in the DFW area and T-Mobile, I’m getting reception regardless of where I’m at. Be it the mall, at work, Walmart, Albertson’s, Cabela’s (which is north of Ft. Worth a ways and I’m still able to get very good coverage), so..

      Actually, I get better reception on T-Mobile at work than I did with Verizon. I was lucky to even sustain 3G on Verizon, let alone 4G. T-Mo… I can sustain a stable 4G connection at work. I think my money is well worth it so far.

      • MJ

        Are you using the same phone? It could also have been the phone you were using. With my old Samsung GNex on Verizon I seldom got a signal at work, and if I did it was 1X. Now with my Moto X I get consistent 2 bars of 4G, sometimes 3 bars.

        • Ryan

          I had two phones, both Motorola that barely got any signal while I was at work on Verizon. Droid X and Droid Bionic. My Nexus 4 seems to have the better penetration, strangely enough, considering Motorola, arguably, has the best radios.

    • ratnok

      Sorry, but I don’t have that experience at all and I’ve had T-Mobile for 7 years. Denver Colorado. On the reliability map, T-Mobile kills every carrier every carrier except Verizon in Colorado.

      • John Legere

        How’s the “vegetation” out there this year?

        • RichieC

          I’m talking about NYC and Orlando Florida. Two major cities with issues inside several business structures . Not the boonies

      • RichieC

        Well you are lucky. In NYC and Orlando Florida sadly it isn’t as good inside

        • Bruce Purvis

          I’m on T-Mobile, I live in the Tampa Bay area and travel to Orlando often. I have never once lost service in any building.

          • RichieC

            She is currently using a Samsung galaxy s4. She had issues in quest diagnostics in the sand lake commons on Turkey lake rd Target on grant street near downtown orlando (which ironically has a T-Mobile store right in the plaza) Denny’s on international Drive. The hard rock hotel in tampa just to name a few places. No data service at all.

          • Bruce Purvis

            That really does suck for you guys. I’m in the Hard Rock every weekend playing poker or blackjack and never have an issue with my Note III. In addition when ever I go to Orlando I ALWAYs stay at the Westgate Lakes Resort on Turkey Lake Rd. and never have an issue there or at the Wal-Mart right there either.

    • flosserelli

      “…you walk into a Walmart and then try to call your spouse to find out what aisle they’re in and have no service…”

      Sounds pretty freaking awesome to me.

    • Sporttster

      I’m in a steel pulpit inside a steel building out in a cornfield and had great reception….not sure what you’re talking about.

      • RichieC

        Listen I’m not saying it’s the same for everyone everywhere. But in the two major cities I spend the most time my wife has my mentioned issues and if you google it there are hundreds of threads of complaints of issues of people having great service till they go I’m to a structured edifice

    • http://www.chasehammer.com/ Chase Hammer J

      it depends on your phone. My N5 works awesome pretty much everywhere but my wife’s galaxy light doesnt work welll inside her work like you said but other buildings its fine.

    • Skittlez

      When was the last time you had T-mobile? i just recently used them with the Nexus 5 to try out the LTE coverage, and i had no issues anywhere i went, and i had coverage inside every building, and with HSPA+ being the fallback(that i rarely fell back to) everything was good. And i always received every picture i was send from my friends on Verizon, and Sprint, with no issues(none of my friends have AT&T).

    • KingofPing

      “T-Mobile is garbage once you enter any structure.”

      Amazing. Any structure, huh?

      Obviously, over-generalized statements like that can only be proven false…so why even make them?

      You may get horrible coverage indoors. That sucks…for you. Some of us aren’t so unlucky.

    • jnt

      My experience in the DFW area has been the opposite. In my office building, in a couple of grocery stores we frequent, etc., AT&T greatly struggled to hold onto any signal at all. On T-Mobile, the signal is consistent and never drops below their HSPA+. In general, the frequencies T-Mobile uses will penetrate buildings better than AT&T’s, but then tower location and load also plays a part. Point being, your rant is based on a very localized experience, and for every example like yours, there’s another one out there that’s different.

      • RichieC

        Wouldn’t go as far as to say my rant just my opinion. As for very localized not from my experience. I drove from NYC to Orlando Florida. I on AT&T had lte/hspa+ the whole trip. My wife on the other hand on T-Mobile was on Edge from the Virginia to Jacksonville, Fl on I-95

        • jnt

          Sorry, didn’t mean to paint it in a negative light. Just meant it differs for everybody. You’re definitely right about overall coverage between cities! I was referring more to the local scenarios in buildings, etc.

  • Prime7

    Having recently switched to T-Mobile from Verizon, I can say that I’m very happy with the service, so far. HOWEVER, there is a huge gap–namely almost the entire distance between San Bernardino County and Las Vegas along I-15–where T-Mobile has no coverage at all. I noticed this when my streaming music just stopped completely, and I had to use my wife’s iPhone on AT&T to continue Pandora.

    When I was with Verizon, I would have LTE for pretty much all of that.

    • Matthew

      I think you just made every Tmobile critics point. Thats the reason many don’t eve consider Magenta.

      • ratnok

        My question would be how often does he make that trip. I could give similar stories about going over the 4G data cap on Verizon.

        • MistaButters

          I think part of the point is that it wouldn’t be just that trip. T-Mobile provides excellent coverage and blazing speeds in large cities, but have huge gaps in coverage in between.

      • jimt

        I’m saving $1000 a year on Tmo I can stick a cd in or play mp3 files for a few miles, no big deal.

        • Rob Schoenfeld

          Say that when your stuck on the road 50 miles away from the nearest city with no cell reception.

          • LiterofCola

            …and you break down and need to call for roadside assistance.

          • NorCalGuy

            What they did before cell phones…walk or hitch a ride…crazy I know mind blown

          • MistaButters

            People don’t stop for hitch hikers anymore.

            side note: Last time we went to Vegas, on the way home we saw a guy jogging with a gas can. Unfortunately he was running the wrong way and we saw him too late so we couldn’t offer a ride, but after we passed his empty car a bit later, we calculated his run at about 12 miles. That’s a serious run in the high dessert heat.

          • justsayin

            “we saw him too late so we couldn’t offer a ride”…does your car not turn around? :)

          • MistaButters

            There are really no turn around areas. I suppose we could have stopped and tried to reverse or get his attention, but by the time we stopped we would have been a couple hundred feet away, and between desert wind and him running I have no clue how we would have gotten his attention.

          • jnt

            True, but on 2-3 of the 4 major carriers you wouldn’t have to do that. I say 2-3 because we all know Verizon has the coverage, and AT&T does for the most part. Even Sprint’s roaming has a broader reach than T-Mobile. So while I agree with you in principle, one shouldn’t have to apologize on T-Mobile’s behalf because they have the option to live life like they did before cellphone’s existed. If anything, throwing out that excuse makes T-Mobile look worse. Though I do miss the days of no cellphones at times! :)

          • jimt

            The last time I had a problem I was robbed in Hawaii and my Verizon phone didn’t work until I had driven 10 miles. Also when I really wanted to use skype at Bryce Canyon and the Grand canyon on Verizon I could not get data. Also at my cabin in Pollock pines I have no signal with Verizon. There are places that you are just out of luck even with my former carrier Verizon. I had them for at least 15 years. I still think at this point I would have been better off with the $15,000.00 that I would have saved in that time.

          • jnt

            True, and that just adds to the point that everybody’s situation is different and everyone has different needs, and the fact that no carrier is perfect everywhere all the time. We’re back on T-Mobile now because in DFW their service is awesome, and that’s where I spend 99% of my time. When I drive to east Texas to visit family, I’m sure I’ll be unhappy with their service as I was 6 months ago, but we don’t do that often, so the $60/month we’re saving on T-Mobile is worth it to me, for now.

          • P.P.2

            That’s weird. When we stay in Pollock Pines we use my Vzn phone as a mobile hotspot. We got 3G for the last 3 years and this year we started getting a little LTE. We’re at least 2 miles from US50.

          • jimt

            If I hike up the hill to the street behind the cabin the phone worked fine. No carrier works at the cabin. I have the same problem at my mom’s house in Los Altos Hills except I do have WiFi there so I could Skype out.

          • jnt

            That’s the marketing campaign that Verizon, and heck, even AT&T, should start to fight back against T-Mobile honestly. As much as I love what John Legere is trying to do with T-Mobile, he’s starting to get a bit over the top IMHO, and this would definitely help him focus on what’s important.

          • Pedro

            make an Emergency Call?

          • Matthew McBride

            You may lose data coverage, there are few places you will lose voice coverage on any carrier they all have roaming.

          • jimt

            My Honda has never done that but if it did I have a thumb and a waving hand. There was a time when no one had a cell phone and cars did break in those days.

          • Rob Schoenfeld

            But in that time bojack the but ripper wasn’t driving down then road.

      • David Wanless

        One thing to keep in mind though is that T-mobile can only keep improving….. Verizon it seems are only getting worse as a carrier, not in coverage but in just about every other part of their business.

  • 4g63mark

    I find T-Mobiles’ s antics amusing. Because shortly before they started all this (a few months ago) I tried T-Mobile. And let’s just say their network doesn’t perform well enough for them to be so arrogant……… It’s sort of like watching a little ankle bitter dog trying to act tough against a Pit Bull. Everyone just laughs at the little dog while the Pit Bull just lays down, licks himself a few times, and then takes a nap……….. On the central coast of California T-Mobile is the worst service available. There were times it was ok up in the bay area 300 miles away. But locally it was crap. They can talk all they want, but I wouldn’t use their service if it was free. Even if they tried to pay me to leave.

  • Jonathan

    “Leaving the Dark Side” would be even funnier if if AT&T posted losses this quarter. It would be leaving the dark side, aka no longer being the black.

  • Rich D

    T-Mobile is still around?

  • XboxOne

    cojones lol. Alberto Del Rio :D

  • Pdiddy187

    Have you had a conversation with someone on At&t? “Garble garble Huh? Sure sounds good.” My synopsis.

  • hanfeedback

    I like tmobile a lot and their stunts I find entertaining. Do they have the coverage that AT&T does? No they don’t but their network is excellent where I spend 97% of my time.

    • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

      I’m sure they appreciate your excitement. But you’re in the minority. Source: T-Mobile Coverage Maps.

      • ninjawarren

        He’s not in the minority. Most people are within their coverage; the country’s population density is not an even distribution.

        • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

          No… They’re not. Look at the Map.

          • ratnok

            He did. Apparently you didn’t.

          • jimt

            Are you using apple maps? /s

          • athom07

            Supposedly their network covers 90-something% of all Americans – I would say his statement *is* true if they are even close to that number.

        • Sporttster

          When I had T-Mo, the coverage in my area was actually better than Verizons! And the signal was strong and the speeds fast. I’d recommend em…

      • LiterofCola

        Yep, T-Mobile would be a nightmare for frequent travelers (like myslef). I’ll stick to Big Red. *grabs popcorn and waits for the downvotes*

      • Allen Byrd

        Wow, I hadn’t checked that in a while. Looks like T-Mo really is catching up. Might be time to switch from AT&T Gophone.

      • Jason

        T-mobile customer – not a day of trouble and pay a hell of a lot less.

        • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

          A lot less than? . . .

          • Matthew McBride

            A lot less than AT$T and V$rizon. I just switched and my bill is 50$ cheaper on T-Mobile than it was on Verizon for the same voice and data package with out having to have a contract, and the coverage is better.

  • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

    It’s just too much nonsense at this point Tmobile…wth? …. It’s cool to take a shot once in a while but this is just stupid.

    • Matthew

      Narcissistic arrogant CEO

      • Philip J. Fry

        You mad.

        • John Legere

          He mad

          • Philip J. Fry

            You’re mad that I’m mad about he’s mad

          • John Legere

            Madception

    • [A]dri[A]n

      He’s extremely unprofessional. I don’t know how people can support that. No class whatsoever.

      • Philip J. Fry

        Deal with it. He’s making things happen whether you like him or not.

        • Chris

          and YOU deal with people having opinions that differ from yours….

      • Chris

        He’s trying too hard to be “hip” and cool and appeal to the younger generation who’s getting as stupid as time goes on. Soon we are gonna have electronic/texting/self centered zombies walking around.

        Not that every young person does this, but most do.

        The downvotes of this comment will prove otherwise as with the offended responses

  • Ray Gray

    John Legere what do you have to say about this?

    • Thomas

      Go look at his official Twitter account, every time somebody asks him about coverage issues he has nothing to say. When it comes to carrier bashing he’s all over it.

      • Omar Amer

        I mean, what is there to say?

      • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

        Ummmmm I’m pretty sure he’s talking about the Parody account that comments on DLife

        • Thomas

          No, I’m talking about his official Twitter account not the ass clown here on DL trying to act like him.

          • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

            I was talking about what Ray said.

          • Ej McCarty

            You mean ray gay?

          • Ray Gray

            Yes because calling me Gay really hurts my feelings. I bet your mom loves BBC

          • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

            BBC the British station? His mom is WILD

          • Ray Gray

            Bahaa not the TV station

          • Ej McCarty

            I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that you’re an uneducated, low-life nigger.

          • Ray Gray

            Your limb branch has broken because actually I have a bachelor’s degree, have been in the military for over 8 years, been deployed 3 times serving this country for racist prick’s like yourself. You would never say that to me in person stay behind your computer screen in your moms basement.

          • Ej McCarty

            You mean your limb branch has broken monkey. I’m sure your degree is in social work and by deployed you mean scrubbing the floors like bubba. And I would beat the living piss out of you. I go to the gym everyday just so I can take care of asssholes like you

          • Philip J. Fry

            Thanks for your service.

          • John Legere

            Nah, he’s talking about something bigger than a TV station.

          • Chris

            but are you happy?

          • John Legere

            Excuse me. I don’t act like him, nor am i an ass clown. Thanks.

    • John Legere

      Well…. jk im not John.

  • Thomas

    Oh look, another T-Mobile bashing another carrier post. *yawn* Quit worrying about what the other networks are doing & make yours better. The bashing stuff was funny at first, but now they are just starting too look silly.

    • Philip J. Fry

      You’ve got to have customers to get towers built. I guess tmo sees this as a way to stir things up.

    • Kelly

      The bashing stuff might be necessary to make the network better, though. In order to build out their network, T-Mobile needs money, and to get money, they need customers. The bashing and the network improvements aren’t mutually exclusive. In the midst of all this “carrier bashing” and Uncarrier marketing, T-Mobile has made serious moves in building out their network, especially with the huge Verizon deal a couple weeks back. All of this is just to get people excited about the network and entice them to switch so that they can make a return on that investment. I can honestly say it’s working on me–I just need T-Mobile to improve their coverage in rural areas first so that I can have service when I visit family.

      • rcasmus

        Coverage is the ONLY thing keeping me on Verizon. As soon as I can get 4g coverage in my living room with T-Mobile I’m switching!

        • Ej McCarty

          They need better building penetration. I had full 4g outside then go inside, BAM nothing haha. Same thing at school so it was utterly useless to me. That was almost a year ago but I doubt that it has gotten much better since then

          • Matthew

            Thats happened to me On both AT&T and LTE

        • John Legere

          As i repeat this, T-Mobile acquired a large amount of Verizon’s old 700MHz LTE towers that will help with coverage and penetration. They’ll go live around end of 2014.

          • Tim242

            What about now?

          • John Legere

            Can’t just snap ya fingers and something happens. Rome wasn’t built in a day.

          • Tim242

            They have been around for a very long time. They are only upgrading the HSPA+ towers to LTE. They are doing nothing to the EDGE towers.

          • John Legere

            Irrelevant. John Legere has only been there since 2012.

          • Tojen1981

            I think you’re confused with spectrum. Tower assets weren’t part of the deal. And its not nationwide, just some markets. I don’t even know if t-mo has phones that even support that band anyway.

          • John Legere

            Yes, but will help those markets. I was confused, it is the spectrum.

            They will in the future, they wouldn’t buy it for no reason.

          • TyrrellNexus6

            …then it makes sense to wait until the end of 2014?

        • ninjawarren

          Your living room doesn’t have WiFi?

    • John Legere

      T-Mobile is changing the game.

      • http://meatcastle.com/ Youre My Boy Bloo

        Cool it Kanye…

        • John Legere

          Hey i’m excited for you, and im gonna let you finish, but T Mobile won carrier of the year.

          • http://volumeboy-man.bandcamp.com/ VBM

            You may troll at times but I find your posts humorous and insightful and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter!

          • KingofPing

            “…and Imma let you finish…”

            Amateur. :p

      • Matthew

        The more he speaks, the more unlikable he gets. He says he’s changing t by e industry. That alone dies nothing for Tmob because every change theyve made can easily be copi. The others have said as much. Contracts probably won’t exist in few years but thr

        • John Legere

          Was this English?

        • Philip J. Fry

          If contracts don’t exist in a couple years, thank T-Mobile.

        • dlegendary0ne

          That’s kind of the whole point. If they do copy Tmobile to make customers happy who wins? The customers. Tmo is doing everything they can to disrupt the normal flow of things and I love it because it forces the other carriers to compete. #winning

        • Sharkh20

          If others copy, wouldn’t that mean they successfully changed the industry?

        • KingofPing

          th more yo rite the harder i is o understand.

      • Dan Meade

        Homo
        VZW 4 life

        • Philip J. Fry

          More like rape4life

          • Chris

            Joking around with rape isn’t cool. How would you like it if someone said that about your mother or girlfriend/wife?

        • John Legere

          More homophobes? Cool.

          • Chris

            Welcome to 2014.

      • jimt

        The Magenta force runs deep in this one. Search your feelings.

    • PhillipCun

      I think the bashing is warranted. Most consumers don’t even know how bad the situation it is. They need to be educated instead of paying all these high service costs.

    • Rosco

      T-Mobile is too busy writing lame jokes to focus on improving their network and customer service.

      • SpoorthyVemula

        Lol. Honestly, bashing only talks like 2 people in pr max. Bashing and improvement are totally unrelated. They are improving there network and no one has better customer service. Network still has a long ways to go though

      • Riz Virani

        You do realize they just bought the (I think) 700 Mhz spectrum from Verizon not like a month ago, and rolled out 11 more LTE markets that same week right?..

      • KingofPing

        Because obviously they cannot do both…

        You haters aren’t even trying today, are you?