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Android 4.4.2 Leaked for Samsung Galaxy S4 (GT-I9505), Sports Same ol’ TouchWiz UI

Galaxy S4 Kit Kat

A leaked test build of Android 4.4.2 has recently leaked for the Galaxy S4 from Samsung. With the company remaining quiet as to when users of the device can expect to officially see the update roll out to their devices, seeing this build leak is a really good sign. Since it’s in testing, and now leaked, U.S. GS4 owners could see it within the next couple of months we would expect. As with all things in this industry, nothing is confirmed.

While the Android build is Kit Kat, Samsung still has TouchWiz all over the place. On a good note, it appears that they have officially moved away from the green battery icon and multi-colored notification icons, though. As we can see in the screenshots, we have the standard white Kit Kat icons, which should make a few of the Android elitists among us quite pleased. For an even deeper look at the “new” TouchWiz running on the Galaxy NotePro and TabPro tablets from Samsung, check out our hands-on at CES right here. With that version of TouchWiz, Samsung implemented a lighter-looking UI in the notification pulldown and Settings menu.

Users of the test build state that besides slight performance increases and the white icons, it’s pretty much the same device with few changes. If you own one of the GT-I9505 Galaxy S4 models, and want to try Android 4.4.2 for yourself, SamMobile has posted a link to the zip file for flashing, as well as instructions.

Galaxy S4 owners, we know you are getting impatient for Kit Kat. Don’t worry, it’s coming.

Via: SamMobile
  • Randall Lind

    White status icon sucks sorry. It makes harder to actually see something

  • Rod

    Why doesn’t the SCHI545 get it really late then the GT-I90505?

  • John Harbour

    How to root Samsung Galaxy S5
    smartphonestutorialscom

  • Jonathon Hoffman

    It better fix the horrible WiFi problems. Meaning, the one where it says it’s connected but really isn’t, and then has to drop the connection and pick it back up.

    • Ryan Lashway

      I have always wondered if this was a VZW issue in the build, to make you drop off wireless and onto your cellular data so they can bill you for the overage on your 2GB data plan

  • Turb0wned

    God I love my clean Moto X.

  • Ry

    I just got an S4. Is there a customer ROM or any other way to change the back button to the left side? I’m used to my old nexus phone.

  • willl03

    Great, android 4.4 with thew look of android 2.3

  • Chris

    Cry me a river….

    Were you really expecting touch wiz to go away? I dobut we will see the “new” touch wiz on anything other then the S5, Note 4 etc.

    Got to love stock enthusiasts. They go on and on about android being about choice but want everything to run stock and only stock

    • MWD

      Could care less about whether it’s stock or not. In fact, I love the fact that Android offers customers a variety of choice. My only gripe about TouchWiz is that it’s God awful ugly. I’m a graphic designer and it really makes me wonder how it makes it to the consumer looking like that… That’s my opinion though of course and if other people enjoy it or think otherwise, then more power to them. Who am I to say otherwise…

  • mario

    going to switch from Sprint to T-Mobile soon thanks to the new ETF deal they got , getting the Nexus 5 and forgetting about all this bloated crap

  • Tony Byatt

    It would be nice if the notification pull down matched the ones on the new tablets at CES…..

  • francid

    I put nova on my note 3. I was coming from a galaxy nexus which I loved and wanted a stock ui but the nexus 5 didn’t come to Verizon. That said I love my note 3, some things I wish I could change but over all nova covers up a lot of thev things I didn’t like about TW.

  • kdiperi

    4.4 will be a huge improvement . The memory management alone will will speed up Touchwiz UI and the entire android process. For me though the touchwiz experience doesn’t really bother me . i have used Nexus devices , HTC w/sense and currently Samsung NOTE 3 . The touch wiz on NOTE 3 isn’t bad at all . its an AMAZING device . Personally i think 4.4 is gonna really push android forward with better device performance

    • Adrynalyne

      We are gonna have to agree to disagree on that one. Memory management is not the problem when the device has 3GB.

    • jim

      Note 3 is an incredible device, to have it is to love it , I wonder if Samsung will be putting this high speed charger on future devices, apple screwed theirs up but Samsung did it right

  • nexpos

    I’m not worried about Touchwiz as much anymore – just fix the animation scale bug that keeps reverting back to 1X in developer options. The slowness caused already by Touchwiz is exacerbated by the 1x annoyance……

  • Jacob Chang

    Love it more than this bit.ly/19Zx6921

    • Stone Cold

      Hahahaha right like the first article curved screens.

      • Jacob Chang

        Exactly, that’s what i’m talking about. :D

    • Chris

      Reported spam

  • Colton

    was so hopeful for a redesign. will stick with xposed though.

    • Chris

      S5

  • joejoe5709

    Well let’s hope this is one Samsung move that LG doesn’t follow. I’m hoping for more differentiation between LG UI and Touchwiz once KitKat hits.

    Also, once Samsung gets KitKat rolling, I’m gonna get increasingly pissed with LG until we get KitKat. Wouldn’t it be killer if LG beat them to the punch? :-)

    • Chris

      LG needs to stick with TVs, Blue ray players and refrigerators.

  • Good_Ole_Pinocchio

    Meh…. Time for the S5. Looking forward to that new UI

  • AllPurposeRadio

    I’m always using either Nova or Action Launcher so about 90% of what I dislike about Touchwiz is irrelevant… however that 10% is all in one valuable area the notification window. Touchwiz takes up far too much space with those damn persistent toggles that need to die. Having said that one real positive is it gives me the option to add & change fonts without root. Can’t do that on my Nexus 7.

  • Tuxdreamerx

    I’ll stick with GEL its doing great on my Note 3

    • KG

      Agreed. Would be even better with a transparent notification bar

      • Adrynalyne

        Thats the only reason I tolerate the TW launcher: The transparent bar.

    • crazed_z06

      I used GEL for awhile my N3, but I thought it was a little “Plain”

      No pinch to zoom or anything on the homescreens..

  • Sixy

    #1 feature wish list: disable the notification when wireless charging engages/disengages.

  • Mike Aurin

    I like how hating Touchwiz is the new “cool” thing to do. I would love to see a poll of OWNERS of a Touchwiz phone and if they like it or hate it with a passion like the rest of the DL community. Of course you would get the trolls who would vote regardless. I have an S4. I like Touchwiz. I don’t think it’s ugly and I like to switch it up and throw Nova on every now and again. Idiots who try and tell me that it doesn’t make it AOSP annoy me because that is 100% not the point. Can we go back to hating Apple?

    • John Legere

      I guarantee 80%+ here hate touchwiz.

      • jim

        nope not me, if you don’t like it, don’t buy it .

        • John Legere

          So you make up less than .00000001%. Thanks

          • jim

            your not liking it will not convince anyone that does like it to change , and since so many are sold everyday , there is a huge chance that you are wrong

          • John Legere

            I can’t even understand you. Come back when english is your first language

          • jim

            hmm , so you hate someone who tells you that you are wrong ? bet that happens to you a lot

          • Adrynalyne

            And he calls me a troll. LOL.

          • jim

            he’s an idiot lol all he does is whine

          • John Legere

            It’s called speaking the truth. Samsung blows and there is plenty of people who would agree on a poll

          • jim

            the truth as you know it, really doesn’t mean the other 99% agree, get over it, just don’t buy Samsung , and let the rest of us alone , I think its time your mother sent you to your room

          • John Legere

            The trolls get worse and worse here everyday.

            Btw, you must be new here. Most of them hate touchwiz.

          • jim

            then stop being one

          • John Legere

            If you can’t figure it out, look into the mirror and you’ll find the troll. In case thats too hard for you to understand. You’re the troll.

          • Dr_Buttballs

            I’ll go on the record as to being someone who dislikes TouchWiz. It was absolutely dreadful on my S2.

          • he you

            Want a cookie? Maybe a glass of milk with it?

            We get your point, now SHUT UP!

          • Philip J. Fry
          • John Legere

            Hate? Are you putting words into people’s mouths now ? Grow up.

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            I’d posit that the UI is the very last reason people choose their devices, as it is impossible to know if you like Touchwiz without having used it for an extended period, or if you like another OEM better if you’ve only ever used Samsung devices.
            Sales is a terrible measure of the general likability of any single UI or feature. It’s more about marketing and brand recognition than anything to do with the device itself. Even people who continue to purchase the Galaxy series may not like the UI specifically, but they have no other legitimate choice now if they desire some other exclusive hardware feature (AMOLED displays, removable storage/batteries, etc.).

      • he you

        Yet your votes show otherwise?

    • flosserelli

      I’d be willing to bet the majority of Note 2/3 owners that actually *use* S-pen like TW. But owners of other Samsung devices would probably prefer a different UI, especially “average” consumers that have no interest in rooting/modding, or have no idea what 3rd party launchers are for.

      • Mike Aurin

        I would actually wager that the “average” consumer doesn’t mind it while the modder would prefer something different. The average consumer probably couldn’t care one way or another. “Oh it comes in white??” Sold.

        • Khary Anderson

          bingo

    • https://twitter.com/KryptosXLayer2 KryptosXLayer2

      That’s what segmentation gets us, unfortunately, Android-on-Android hate…. but hey, you like it, I like it, the millions more bought Samsungs than they did other brands, oh well….

      • John Legere

        Sales dont mean quality.

        • he you

          Well apparently people like it. So, suck it up dude!

        • guest

          actually, sales do mean quality because people tend to buy quality products.

      • he you

        Now that’s what I’m talking about!

    • Philip J. Fry

      So now if you hate something, you’re a troll? Gtfo. If you like touchwiz, that is your opinion. Not everybody else’s.

      • Adrynalyne

        You summed it up.

        Hate something: You are a troll.
        Question something: You are a troll.
        Disagree with something: You are a troll.

        There was actually someone who wished the death of my daughter yesterday, and it got upvoted!

        • Philip J. Fry

          The amount of trolls around here is astounding to say the least.
          Yea, I thought I remember reading that yesterday. Made me smh.

        • jim

          just to many kids on here, its the same old thing , “mine is better than yours’ or ‘I hate that and you should to “

          • LionStone

            Yea, and like when you say, my Note 3 is the best phone off allll time oohh!!

          • he you

            Adults nowadays act like a five year old!

      • LSH99

        No, you have it all wrong. If you hate something around here, you’re an Apple fanboy and a sheep. If you DISAGREE with anything anybody else says, you’re a troll. Keep up.

      • Mike Aurin

        No one said “troll”…I commented on the hate. Learn to read and not skim.

    • Blue Sun

      I have not been a fan of any of the modified UI’s I have had on any of my mobile phones. My Droid X (Motoblur), & HTC Thunderbolt (Sense) were awful. I have dabbled a little with TW on my friend’s S4 too. The S4 experience was enough to deter me from buying the Note 3. I was happy with CM on my GNex, & will probably stick to a pure stock UI on my N5.

    • KingofPing

      “I like how hating Touchwiz is the new “cool” thing to do.”

      So you’re new here then? Hating on TW has been around since at *least* the Galaxy S1 (much deserved at the time). They did some really good things to fix it with the S2, but then started sliding backwards by adding more and more.

      • Adrynalyne

        Yeah, its starting to rub me the wrong way just like the first version did.

        First version on Android anyway.

        • KingofPing

          Heh..

          Wasn’t that a mess? TW3 was just a complete nightmare. It really did get so much better with the S2 (TW4). Almost wish they’d just stopped there. (Never actually owned an S2 thanks to Verizon’s stupidity, but knew several folks with ‘em and got my share of play-time on ‘em.)

          • Adrynalyne

            Yep. I made a lot of people happy stripping it out in roms. Really made the Samsung Fascinate shine.

          • KingofPing

            There’s still a soft spot in my heart for that phone. Gotta do something about that one of these days. I’m thinking transplant…

      • he you

        Its getting old dude.
        Don’t like it then don’t buy or worry about it.

        As simple as that

        • KingofPing

          OMG! Someone has an opinion that differs from yours! Quick! Tell them to shut up and use something else! OH NOES!!!

          You’re an idiot. Stop posting until you can entertain opinions that you do not share. Simple as that.

          Have a great weekend.

    • Chad

      I’ve been reading Droid-Life for a couple years now and I don’t know when their readers (we) became so… negative. The comment section on every article has become full of the same “cookie cutter” replies: Hate on TouchWiz, love for the Moto X/Nexus, spec war is over, give me a bigger battery, Verizon is the worst, unlimited data, bla bla bla. Which, whatever, we get it, the majority has spoken, your point has been made. But instead of somehow fostering effective discussion, the comment section has become one big circlejerk…

      We (whatever you would consider the majority of people that check these blogs) have made it very clear there is a specific TYPE of android phone/OS that you can have, everything else is ugly/bad. Congratulations, we’ve become exactly like the phone (iPhone) users that we all want to hate.

      • Kevin

        Back then it was Android vs IOS. Now it’s Android OEMs vs each other.

        • crazed_z06

          Yup…It’s like the Factions have splintered.

          Like you said, it used to be iOS vs ANdroid.

          Now it’s Samsung vs Android Purists. The Android purists have aligned themselves with the Motorola fanboys

          • he you

            Right?

      • he you

        I couldn’t agree more. People just can’t stop talking crap! If you don’t like what they like, then obviously you’re stupid. The nexus 5 is the best phone in the world even tho it has a crappy camera and display and so is the moto x. Yeah they have vanilla android, but it doesn’t mean that its better in any way. Oh wait, but we cant talk crap about the HTC ONE because it has a “METALLIC BODY AND BOOMSOUND SPEAKERS”. I blame it on the editors because they are always banning Samsung. If you dont like it don’t buy or worry about it. Its like these people are full of hate and are just so negative.

        • Hothfox

          Oh, look, a hypocrite!

          Just above you told me the Moto X and the Nexus 7 “both suck”. I believe that is called “talking crap”. Everyone does it, including you. Including me.

    • Kevin

      You must be new here. :) We never liked skins on our phones ever since the Droid X, but you wouldn’t know what that is.

      • Mike Aurin

        The LG skin is far and away the worst skin I’ve ever seen (admittedly my opinion) yet whenever that is brought up the simple phrase 90% of that time is “Slap NOVA on this bitch and its the best phone evar!!!11!!!”. Try that with a Sammy device (which I don’t think is as ugly…intrusive yes) and you’ll be flamed instantly. I hate skins. Being on Verizon doesn’t offer a lot of choice when it comes to that. I’m not going to jump ship and leave for a single device that will last me two years. VZ has been good to me and the coverage is excellent. I also won’t boycott a phone because “ew that skin is ugly” when the S4 is a beast of a phone. If you don’t buy a phone because the battery bar is green then you’re foolish.

      • Chris

        “we” as in you? I’ve been on this site for little over a year now and I like skins. Theres always a nexus device or rooting. Android is about choice.

        • Kevin

          We as in the people from Droid Life that have been here since day 1. You barely got here since jellybean.

          • Chris

            Still, not every android “nerd” likes stock.

    • Hothfox

      Any time my boyfriend gives me his Note 2 to use for something, I cringe, and say, “That’s okay, I’ll get up and get my Moto X/Nexus 7.”

      • he you

        And they both suck!

        • Hothfox

          So does your mom!

          • he you

            Well at least shes good at something unlike yours! Cunt cant even wash clothes, suck or cook! What a waste

    • Chris

      or stock enthusiasts demand everything to have stock and yet they go around saying how android is about choice…

  • DanSan

    so how long til this gets ported to the other carrier GS4′s… i got a few friends at work who are jealous of my GS4 running cm11 nightly while they are stuck on their MK2 build.

    • John Legere

      Why don’t you have a Nexus? Oh you’re probably on Verizon.

      • DanSan

        Yes. I like having coverage….

        and my unlimited data.

        • John Legere

          Cool, me too.

      • Mike Aurin

        I’d take an S4 over a Nexus….

        • John Legere

          Brainwashed confirmed.

          • jim

            hell id take an iphone over a nexus, been there done that, never again

          • John Legere

            They’ve come a long way since Verizon ruined the Gnex.

          • Mike Aurin

            No doubt. Still pales in comparison to some aspects.

          • John Legere

            Nope. But this is America, and the few can have their opinion

          • Mitchman

            The camera and speaker certainly have not.

          • Mike Aurin

            Was it the G-Nex? I loved that damn phone aside from carrying a charger with me at all times.

          • jim

            since I got my Note 3 , my car charger is covered in duct from lack of use

          • Mike Aurin

            Nexus isn’t some elite status. Besides having the latest and greatest version of Android (which don’t get me wrong…that’s HUGE) I feel the N5 lacks in comparison in a lot of ways.

          • John Legere

            Its not bloated. Its fast. Its not cheap plastic. Its not bloated.

          • Timothy Sternig

            It’s not bloated I’ll give you that.

            However, it is indeed made out of cheap plastic.In fact, the device is so cheaply made that a lot of users have seen the glue holding the word “Nexus” on the back of the device give out and have seen the lettering fall off of the device and/or have glue seeping out from the letters lulz

            http://news.yahoo.com/the-letters-are-falling-off-google-s-nexus-phones-and-tablets-183752630.html

          • Timothy Sternig

            I don’t care if you downvote my previous response lol. The truth is still the truth. The Nexus is made with cheap plastics and it has problems with the letters falling off.

            In fact, remember the really popular leaked image of the Google employee using the Nexus 5 before it came out? Even on his devce the lettering had fallen/rubbed off lol:

            http://boygeniusreport.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/nexus-5-leak-zoom.png

          • he you

            Haha bet even the moto x has better build!

          • he you

            Plastic is plastic…..

          • guest

            do you work for google? why do you spend so much time to promote nexus devices?

        • he you

          Any day! The screen and camera suck b4llz! I call that a mediocre phone

          • Mike Aurin

            You lost it at “suck b4llz”. I would’ve had more respect for your juvenile put down if it was at least spelled correctly.

      • Hothfox

        Even if you’re on Verizon, the GS4 is not the closest you can get to a Nexus.

  • John Legere

    Borrrrrring

  • Shaggy

    Off the topic but my Galaxy S3 just got upgraded to 4.3 I wonder if this is correct.

    • jim

      yes my wife got it a few weeks ago

  • https://twitter.com/KryptosXLayer2 KryptosXLayer2

    “Oh no, bad UI all over the place”—but still the best functioning overlay in the industry…. So quit whining and start theming, you can use any one of the MANY quick, simple, basic theming elements available, from the easiest of Xposed mods to full out SystemUI conversions, my S4 on 4.3 looks nothing like the stock, and yes UGLY TouchWiz you see here – there isn’t anything that’s going to be “perfect,” so make it perfect if you don’t like it!

    • Adrynalyne

      An easy answer that hinges on one very uncertain thing: admin-level access, aka root.

      • https://twitter.com/KryptosXLayer2 KryptosXLayer2

        hahahaha, what is “very uncertain” about a one-click root? Who buys an Android phone, reads up on it on a site like this, and then says “you know what, I’d rather not be able to do everything I possibly can on this device, I think the manufacturer knows best and I should leave everything else alone”

        If that’s the case, I’m pretty sure CRApple would be glad to have a few more customers……

        • Adrynalyne

          I didn’t think I would need to spell it out. Oh well.

          Not all devices can be rooted, and some lose root along the way.

          Then there are those who cannot root because they are work devices.

          • https://twitter.com/KryptosXLayer2 KryptosXLayer2

            Glad you spelled it out, makes it easier for me to rebut each point:

            1) Name a single popular device (read: not some Chinese junk Android tablet) that CANNOT be rooted and I’ll post the link to where they found root on XDA

            2) Work devices can of course be rooted, KNOX can be disabled, etc etc etc. Just because someone tells you not to do something doesn’t mean it cannot be done

          • Adrynalyne

            1. There are several, especially if they come with 4.4. Apologies that I am not in the mood to give you the models.
            2. Not every works at McDonalds and doesn’t value their job.
            3. Some devices can be rooted prior to certain upgrades, which cannot be controlled if they come that way out of the box.

            Seriously, you are grasping at straws to make a point that you think we should fix OEM shortcomings.

          • https://twitter.com/KryptosXLayer2 KryptosXLayer2

            I’m the FIRST person to believe that Samsung has a lot of work to do that needs to be addressed – they don’t listen to their customer base the way they claim to be, releasing product after product that constantly has the same shortcomings, as you stated – but that being said, your points do nothing to prove your reason behind NOT gaining root access! Also, I’d love to hear about those 4.4 devices sometime, that sounds fun!

          • Adrynalyne

            I don’t have to prove it. It is a fact.

          • https://twitter.com/KryptosXLayer2 KryptosXLayer2

            A fact you have not, will not, and cannot prove – those are the best facts there are!

          • Adrynalyne

            Cannot prove? No no, you misunderstand. I am not going to stoop to your level for you to understand why some cannot root. There are many reasons, you just have to look past your mother’s basement. Rooting, quite plainly, is a security risk. So aside from the devices that are not, or no longer rootable, there is a reason for someone to choose not to. Especially if a company is keeping close eye.

          • https://twitter.com/KryptosXLayer2 KryptosXLayer2

            McDonalds, mother’s basement – you’re getting VERY far with this argument you CANNOT prove! hahaha, you’re hilarious!

          • Adrynalyne

            I could ask you to prove how root does not affect security and how employees will not lose their jobs if their employers find out….but I am not going to play the silly games you are.

          • skylordusa1

            ^ hahahahahhahahahah this was the best argument I think I ever read. hahahahha. Adrynalyne: There are devices that cant be rooted.
            Kryptos: Really? Please show me some. Adrynalyne: Im not in the mood to show you or play silly games! hahahhahahahhah thank you Adrynalyne for a great laugh ahhahahahha.

          • Adrynalyne

            *Sigh*

            New DROIDs stock with 4.4.

            That is three phones alone.

            It just makes my point that much more true. Phones that had root can lose it.

            Just wait until we get a bunch of Samsung Knox’ed devices with 4.4. That will be a fun one. And no, current rooted devices will no longer be rootable by the same methods. It happens all the time.

            Again, those who have work phones cannot always be doing this.

            Not that is relevant. There is ZERO reason why you should root your phone to compensate for OEM shortcomings.

            So laugh all you want

          • skylordusa1

            These aren’t the Droids your looking for. hahahhaha First you said devices cant be rooted (as in never) and then they lose root along the way (as in never regain root). Now your changing your argument to cant be rooted by the same methods. Got Ya!

          • Adrynalyne

            Show me where I said never. No? Then stfu. Do you have anything worthwhile to add, or are you another typical DL troll?

          • skylordusa1

            hahahhahah why so angry bro? Apologies that I am not in the mood to show you where you said never.

            haahahahaahahah

          • Adrynalyne

            Then you lied. Typical.

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          What’s wrong with wanting an OEM to fix their own mess? If the UI sucks, I shouldn’t have to spend my valuable time fixing it just to make it usable. It’s not simply a question of tinkering, it’s that TouchWiz as a UX is horrid, and needs to be fixed at its base. Tweakers won’t give a damn what software their device has since they’re going to be messing with everything anyway.

          • jim

            make it usable ? mine works just fine

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            Hyperbole, of course. And I don’t want “just fine”, I want “this is awesome” every time I pick it up, for the entire time I own it, because that is what their competitors offer. I want to keep my current device in my hand and use it. TouchWiz, I simply don’t care, or it’s frustrating often enough that even if it’s working I’m just waiting for the next time I want to throw it against a wall.

          • LionStone

            It’s called putting up with it. Is fine you accept it, but many of us won’t.

          • jim

            then buy something else and quit whinning

          • LionStone

            Yea I’m winning every time I pull down my notification shade and not having to look at the electro green, persistent settings! Hehe, enjoy that buddy!

          • AndroidUser00110001

            If you think UI sucks then why buy phone in first place? Shouldn’t you buy something that doesn’t suck to you?

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            What about the other features? Perhaps I wanted the best camera at the time, or the removable battery, or the microSD slot? There are many reasons to purchase a device in spite of the UI.
            Why should an OEM want me to choose between their features and their UI? If I’m not using or dislike their UI, then I will be less likely to purchase another of their devices in the future, or stop using their device when something equivalent is released by a different company.

    • John Legere

      Best functioning. Lmao stopped reading there

      • https://twitter.com/KryptosXLayer2 KryptosXLayer2

        a post without swearing, Legere? haha, but seriously, find another with more sales, I’ll wait…. I’m sure people bought these phones by the tens of millions because it was “the worst functioning,” right???

        • Matthew Rebmann

          Has more to do with the fact that Samsung has an outrageously large marketing budget and the S line started out looking like an iPhone knockoff…. Just sayin’ :)

          • https://twitter.com/KryptosXLayer2 KryptosXLayer2

            So…… the company with the biggest advert budget sells more phones than the largest corporation in the world (not the largest MOBILE device manufacturer, the largest corporation regardless of the product or service) and we are to assume the masses are just ignorant in the fact that they bought into this device, because of advertising? Sounds legit….

          • LionStone

            Yep, many people are followers and just follow along with what’s popular, period, you heard of “fad” right?

          • Matthew Rebmann

            Actually, yes. Everyone I know aside from a few know samsung phones as “galaxy’s.” Even if the phone isn’t a samsung and it’s just an Android device I hear “oh is that the new galaxy?” It used to be “Droid.” Yes. I do think the world is fairly ignorant of what they buy a lot of the time. I’m not saying they they don’t make a decent phone but sales numbers don’t tell the whole story. Sorry to burst your bubble. When you someone holding anything made by a company, it’s also free advertising. Once Samsung penetrated the market (again, having used Apple’s momentum by using their aesthetic) All Samsung really has to do is put out a phone that doesn’t suck (which most high end phones don’t) and keep up on a marketing blitz.

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          Nope, they bought it because of marketing or because it was the closest to their needs at the time. I am absolutely certain more people bought the device in spite of the UI than because of it.

          • https://twitter.com/KryptosXLayer2 KryptosXLayer2

            Right, they paid money to Samsung to teach them a lesson about how bad it was, because paying money for something always shows how much you hate that product – that shows Samsung, those suckers!

          • John Legere

            People aren’t smart. They buy a phone to be a hipster most of the time. And with samsungs advertising budget. They buy a galaxy. Not knowing their software and updates are atrocious

          • Justtyn Hutcheson

            Purchasing a device is not a complicit endorsement of any particular feature of that device. By your logic, every LG phone should have rear keys from now on, because the G2 is their best selling device ever, and obviously everyone bought it because of the rear keys.

            See false equivalency really is ridiculous to use in an argument. I doubt the average Samsung GS4 users would look at you funny if you asked if they liked TouchWiz. Ask if they like the camera and they’ll tell you how great it is, though.

          • https://twitter.com/KryptosXLayer2 KryptosXLayer2

            When the next LG device doesn’t have rear keys, and doesn’t sell well, I can guarantee you that the bean counters are going to say something to the designers and either heads will roll OR they will go back to putting rear keys on the very next device!

            That’s called Marketing 101, many people commenting have never taken it and just give their blatantly biased opinions because they hate TouchWiz – of which, it doesn’t matter how many Galaxy S owners hate it, they use it or lose it (through ROMming, theming, etc), so if you have a good device and ONE THING about it that can easily be changed is off…. would you buy it or cry about it? Furthermore, how many of those people who own the device and say they hate TW actually do something about it (ROM, theme, etc)? That is, how many people actually modify their TW based phones? I’d be willing to overestimate that less than 10% do, on the HIGH side…. so they all hate it, but keep buying them? Or are there a NEW group of millions of people in the world that keep appearing out of no where to buy the newest Galaxy S phone when it is released, ignorant of TW and find out they made a bad purchase, never to go back to buying it?

            So many ridiculous comments on this, it’s almost funny how bad this is!

          • he you

            Yeah and people dont even buy the nexus 5 or moto x “vanilla” even though they’re cheap as hell! Hahahaha!

            What do you have to say about that?

            Wait how many moto x or nexus 5 are sold? Not even if you add both of them together they would add up to Samsung’s sales. Lmao

        • Adrynalyne

          It used to be StuckOnVerizonForever. You should be used to his comments by now.

    • jim

      my Note 3 is still stock, and I may leave it that way, its just a matter of learning and getting accustomed to it , don’t ya love that high speed charger by the way ?

    • he you

      But but…. my nexus 5 is perfect isn’t it?

  • KG

    The more important question is does anybody know if the Tap & Pay functionality/menu make it into this update?

  • Austin_tacious

    The battery icon is an improvement, but I am still disappointed.

  • http://404err0r.com/ Henry Park

    Meh does it matter…. most of us are gonna put third party launcher anyways :P

    • KingofPing

      Most launchers are utterly unable to alter the status bar, notification/quick settings shade, or lock-screen.

      • Adrynalyne

        Devil’s advocate:

        They can in KitKat, and the TW launcher does too, for altering status bar (transparency anyway).

        • KingofPing

          Hey, Scully! *grin*

          Let me know when the launcher can modify the statusbar icons, notification window/shade look and functionality, and quick-settings (both look and function again).

          Only then is “change the launcher” a reasonable suggestion.

          • Adrynalyne

            Oh I agree. However, I am hoping this is a trend Google is taking with Android, by moving what was normally reserved for framework, into the launchers.

          • KingofPing

            I’m hopeful, but cautiously. Not sure it would be a good idea for them to expose *all*of that functionality to third party launchers. Allowing OEMs/AOSP devs is one thing…

  • CHRIS42060

    Bring a cold shiver down my spine of the old days with my GS3. Makes me want to hold my Nexus 5 tight and thank it.

  • Tony G.

    yeah i want a nexus 5 now that sprint spark is in houston. nobody wants to buy my galaxy s4 lulerskatez

  • Francisco Rodriguez

    Honestly, you shouldn’t expect a UI refresh until the S5 is released.

    • flosserelli

      And I wouldn’t hold my breath expecting a better TW then, either.

    • John Legere

      You mean. When Samsung has put 128gb in their phones because Touchwiz takes up so much space?

    • Mitchman

      At least. Why the hell would they completely change the UI for an update?

      • Spider210

        So why the hell did apple update everyone to ios 7…. pretty sure that was a huge UI update… i have people complaining to me everyday about ios 7…. blah blah blah

  • culicagado

    This is pure mierda

    • LionStone

      Haha! :-)

    • El_Big_CHRIS

      Haha thanks for the laugh

  • LionStone

    Dang! Sorry, the white icons don’t make up for that horrid notification panel! Why take up all that space when quick settings is just a tap away?

    • Hothfox

      That’s what I’ve never understood. Why have toggles in the notification drawer? -MOST- of the toggles are addressed in Quick Settings.

  • Guy Pierce

    Same Ol’ UGLY!

  • Philip J. Fry

    Another version of android ruined by touchwiz.

    • John Legere

      Samsung is the new Apple. It’s official. Im actually rooting for HTC now. If they can fix their camera.

      • Adrynalyne

        Did Apple ruin their version of Android with an overlay? I am confused.

        • John Legere

          You clearly missed the point. Im glad you sit there waiting to answer too.

          They both keep the same hardware and make no significant upgrades

          • Adrynalyne

            Yeah, I do this thing called reading…

            Your response makes no sense either way.

          • John Legere

            Hmmm Touchwiz, hardware, all yhe same, nothing new. Makes perfect sense to me. No point in trying to troll me. Go do it to somebody else.

          • Adrynalyne

            The S4 isn’t a new phone, so yeah bro, its the same hardware.

            LOL.

          • John Legere

            Still trolling i see.

          • Adrynalyne

            Is this how you discuss? Or do you just deflect?

          • John Legere

            You’re a troll. Having to reply to everyone. Rather pathetic actually

          • Eric R.

            Have you left Verizon yet and had Tmobile pay your fees?

          • Eric R.

            Your trolling ForeverStuckOnVerizon

          • John Legere

            You can’t even get the name right.

            Btw, you’re*

      • Josh Rahn

        I agree, I have an S4 and its going to be my last samsung.
        It feels like their releasing the same phone and tablets just in a different form factor.
        Pick a size and with or without a pen?
        I run omni BTW with GE launcher. Touchwiz is tired and bloated and needs to be put out to pasture.
        All their gimmicky battery sucking features should be add-ons and not stock.

      • Maxim∑

        well if you hate Samusng and Apple not much left

        • Eric R.

          HTC, Moto, LG, Nokia

        • Boblank84

          how so? there are many other great oems out there. I haven’t bought any products from either of those companies in a long time..

      • Ryan

        Why note LG? I think LG has a chance to give Samsung a run for their money.

    • T4rd

      With a little root and Wanam Xposed, TW is very tolerable, IMO. I don’t mind it at all on my Note 2. I know it’s cool to hate on Samsung/TW, but the beauty of Android is that you can pretty much fix everything you want.

      • KingofPing

        Especially now with Xposed. You can do pretty much anything, regardless of “skin”.

        Would love to see a “Sense 5.5″ Quick-Settings Notification-shade xposed mod for AOSP/Nexus/GPe though. tap-to-toggle, 3-dot to configure makes way too much damn sense…if you’ll excuse the pun. (Don’t. I shouldn’t be allowed to get away with stuff like that.)

      • r0l

        Great for someone like you and me, not for the other 98%+ of people who buy Android phones.

        Of course stating Android is “ruined” is being overly dramatic. TW doesn’t ruin Android IMO, it just makes it less appealing than some of the other choices.

        • T4rd

          Well yeah.. but I’d say 98% of people who buy Android phones wouldn’t know stock Android from TW anyways, so they wouldn’t know any better or care enough to change it.
          And I totally agree on the second statement. Tech enthusiests (or any enthusiests, I guess) tend to be overly critical on these things and are quick to call TW a disaster. And while it is definitely pretty unintuitive in some areas (settings/dialer tabs not swipable?! WTF), other features are pretty nice (DLNA streaming, blocking mode, lots of notification bar customization). The fugly green theme doesn’t help much either, but that’s easily fixable too (with Wanam).

          • r0l

            I do miss smart stay from my Note 2 and a couple camera options, but other than that the rest of the features all sounded nice but I rarely used more than once. Of course I know my opinion is just one of many.

        • Braden Abbott

          The average person thinks that Android and the Play Store is a Galaxy thing and only buys one cuz everyone else did and they think the screen is pretty. Everyone’s grandma and her dog has a Galaxy now, I even helped a blind man set up his new Galaxy the other day…there couldn’t be anything more lame than buying a Galaxy these days. I would rather someone buy an iPhone cuz they like it rather than get a Galaxy just cuz it’s the “cool” thing to do right now.

          • Mitchman

            The average high schooler would be worried about whether or not something is the “cool” thing to do right now, not the average person.

          • Braden Abbott

            With that logic, every adult would drive a Hyundai… Let’s be real, everyone cares about what they spend their money on, and how it makes them look and feel.

          • Mitchman

            Yes everyone cares what they spend their money on, how it makes them look and feel, but when you become an adult you become less superficial.

          • anon

            HAHAHA not really. I visit stores and 30-50 year old people want to be cool and buy the trends.

          • Braden Abbott

            If you are spending the extra money for a Galaxy, you are definitely more superficial than others or you would just get a $100 prepaid instead of a $600 Galaxy.

          • Andrew T Roach

            Exactly. Galaxy Phones are not especially affordable or good. There are better value propositions at both the high end, and low end especially with the coming of the $100 dollar Moto G (Which beats the pants off the S3 at a quarter the cash price.)

          • macindroid

            Braden is MS or Apple paying you lol

          • Braden Abbott

            I am a complete Google fanboy lol. The point I was trying to make is all Samsung has going for them is their reputation right now. There are better phones for less money is all I’m saying. TouchWiz and other skins are terrible for the consumer, adding skins and features that compete with stock Android delays software updates for months or makes them completely financially unfeasible to update…look at how the nearly stock Moto X got Kitkat in just two weeks and all of Samsung’s phones are still waiting. Most of the Note 2s and the S4 Actives are still on 4.2 cuz all Samsung cares about is their sales momentum and getting the S5 to market. I predict all this growth they have is going to crash soon as inexpensive phones like the Moto G and Nexus 5 are becoming good enough that you won’t have to buy a $600 flagship to get a good experience any more.

          • macindroid

            hey Braden how about HECK NO. If iOS kills Android (Galaxy being one of the biggest reasons Android is still popular against WinMo and iOS) that would SUCK. I say this as a Mac user. iOS sucks and Apple is now far more evil than Google and restricts you way more. I like TouchWiz and find it easy to customize. Can’t say that for iOS. Why did everyone go from loving Samsung in the Galaxy S II days to hating them this year?? The products are still awesome people. At least I think so. I really, really like TouchWiz. and hard buttons :)

          • Braden Abbott

            Don’t get me wrong, I dislike the iPhone with a passion, and I appreciate Samsung for helping the Android market share get to 80% because Galaxys are not sticky like the iPhone, its super easy for a Galaxy user to change to a different Android phone and lose no functionality while not having to learn something new either (the problem is that they don’t know this, Samsung has the average Joe thinking he has to get another Galaxy to keep the same apps). Galaxys were cool back then because it was edgy to have one. We went years with the 3.5″ iPhone from Apple and then all of the sudden there is this slick looking phone from Samsung with a huge screen that has contrast and viewing angles like nothing we had seen before. This new kid on the block Galaxy was intimidating at first so only tech-forward people bought one, including myself. I do Android tech support for a living and I have seen the average Galaxy user change to your mom over the last year and a half and it’s because they are not intimidating any more, no innovation, just spec bumps, spit shines, and more gimmicks.

      • C-Law

        Running cm11 on my mom’s note 2 since she was having force closes and occasional WiFi issues and Black screens of death on the official 4.3 build I downloaded. Cm11 running much nicer/smoother than TW did.

        • Philip J. Fry

          This. I had cm11 on my note 2 and it was like a whole different phone. Trying to cover up TW with xposed / laucher / themes is like putting lipstick on a pig IMO

    • John

      where is Philip J. Fry?

    • Bobby Phoenix

      I love TouchWiz, and Android and TouchWiz is at a point where new updates won’t bring much because they are so good now there is little to improve upon.

    • John T. Wildman

      Maybe, but then you have to ask.. maybe the masses are right and your version of Android is lame. Samsung pretty much makes Motorola, HTC, LG, and whoever else tries to compete look like crap. Don’t take my word for it.. Stick with the numbers. They beat all of them combined.. And wait for it….. They all run touch wiz! Just a observation from us less superior dumbed down sheep.. Hope your version doesn’t go bankrupt trying to keep up.

  • KleenDroid

    Touchwiz has some nice features. The rest can be fixed.

    • turdbogls

      agreed, but will it ever? looks like No. the only reason they used the white icons in the status bar is because Google is forcing them to use them if they want to use the transparent bars.

    • Braden Abbott

      As time goes by, apps on our phones get heavier and slower as they get updated and improved, Samsung has an interest to make the phone run alright at first and slow down over time so you want a new one next year…touchwiz has to push the hardware to the limit from the get-go to make this scam possible.

    • Andrew T Roach

      I still cant find any TouchWiz features that I want to use, or cant be replaced with apps that do a better job.

  • mcdonsco

    Jesus, even Samsung went with white and Motorola, supposedly now known for being closest to stock android outside of a nexus, stuck with blue?

    WTF?

    • Dr_Buttballs

      I think that’s only on the Droid branded phones. Once my Moto G was updated to 4.4.2 the icons turned white.

      • mcdonsco

        I know…still sucks.

    • Justtyn Hutcheson

      Punit Soni basically admitted that Verizon attempted to force them to do it (remember the Droids are Verizon devices built and maintained by Motorola. It could have easily been Samsung or LG in their position with similar results).

      However, that update was pulled due to it bricking devices. I’d be very surprised if it still had blue icons when it returns.

      • mcdonsco

        Well I’m in that soak and I’m not seeing any indications of going to white or even a replacement for the failed update….luckily didn’t brick my phone but definitely have issues with the update.

        • Justtyn Hutcheson

          Afaik, they haven’t gotten a replacement update approved as of yet, and until that happens you won’t see anything with the icons and what-not. I’m really surprised they didn’t send out a reversion patch to take you back to the last stable version though. I guess they figured it was better to leave it as is than risk further bricking by going back.

          I hope that they get you a fix soon. I’d love a fix to my bluetooth bugs, but definitely want all Motos on at least 4.4 before that!

  • Danny Dodge

    So the new magazine ux isn’t coming to the note 3 and s4? :(

  • NemaCystX

    One word comes to mind: Yuck! The new leaked UI looks much better

  • Eric Hare

    Yuck.